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00:27 < eryc> http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/
00:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: 2048 (at gabrielecirulli.github.io)
01:29 < RangerZ1> eryc: yeah
01:29 < RangerZ1> there is 2048 flappybird
01:29 < RangerZ1> 2048 pacman
01:29 < RangerZ1> and others
01:29 < RangerZ1> lol
01:30 < RangerZ1> aestetix: really... I mean really... first of all.... prostrate gland... so I'm sure he has, second of all... why not just PM these things
01:31 < RangerZ1> time + place for things, this isn't #:aestetix:Corydon76-home:question:chan
01:37 < RangerZ1> we discussed this and decided that if you want to do a BoF or panel discussion about this topic at PN, you're welcome... after 10pm
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01:40 <@Bahhumbug> :)
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01:41 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig: You watching Crisis?
01:41 <@Bahhumbug> If not, you should check it out.
01:45 < RangerZ1> Bahhumbug: any good?
01:45 <@Bahhumbug> Yes.
01:45 < RangerZ1> just saw spiderman 2
01:46 < RangerZ1> and it was pretty good actually, but it would have been a little better if they cut back on sub-plots
01:47 < RangerZ1> but like me and oddball were discussing earlier, Sony "needs" to start a franchise of other spiderman movies... b/c its the only super hero they have...  and so they rushed this movie to make it possible to have more later on
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03:57 < aestetix> howdy
03:57 < aestetix> RangerZ1: Corydonchan. I like the ring of that.
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04:18 < aestetix> woah
04:18 < aestetix> I think I just got appointed to a government committee
07:37 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EsNhCWsDVQI
07:37 < aestetix> it's a video of a natural childbirth
08:10 <@Shadow404>  < aestetix> I think I just got appointed to a government committee
08:10 <@Shadow404> god help us all
08:21 < aestetix> Shadow404: it's the committe on usage of penis and vagina
08:25 < aestetix> Shadow404: if you want I can try to get you appointed to the subcommittee on butt play
08:26 <@Shadow404> sure, sounds like a really tight gig.....
08:26 <@Shadow404> ...*cue 'rim' shot*
08:27 < aestetix> yeah, we can't have too many people on it or it's less effective
08:27 <@Shadow404> :)
08:37 <@Shadow404> Does anyone want/need a cisco cable modem docsis 3.0 - DPC3010
09:38 <@brimstone> huh, there's a few modems that seem to be hackable: http://wiki.openwrt.org/?do=search&id=docsis
09:39 <@brimstone> in the sense i should be able to run my own code in a linux environment, with gigabit ethernet and wifi
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12:55 < eryc> magic http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/566848-samsung-galaxy-s3-usb-unknown-device.html#post5407299
13:01 <@Catonic> brimstone: that's a good thing, because the modem from a cable modem can be used elsewhere.
13:02 <@Catonic> simulating the CMTS might be a bit of a challenge thoigh
13:02 <@brimstone> i'd like to replace the stack of modem, switch, router, AP with a single device
13:02 <@brimstone> it'd be neat if i could then HA two of them
13:03 <@brimstone> because my house needs HA internet access
13:04 <@Dagmar> Reminder: The cablemodem network is far less reliable than your hardware
13:05 <@brimstone> no kidding
13:13 < eryc> meh fucking windows
13:13 < eryc> but
13:13 < eryc> i got adb over wifi working now so its even better
13:13 < eryc> deployed the demo app using ionic and angular
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13:22 <@Dagmar> eryc: In their defense, Windows' ability to properly recognize sub-types of devices is about as smart as a junebug
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14:20 < Goat21_HM> Heelllllllooooo
14:20 < Goat21_HM> <---actually back in the SE!!!! =)
14:20 < Goat21_HM> BUT NO ONE CARES!!!!!!! *screams and runs away*
14:22 < Goat21_HM> what have I...what have I ...what have I done to deserve this?!
14:22 < Goat21_HM> *sings petshop boys*
14:25 <@brimstone> well i know one thing...
14:26 < Goat21_HM> ?
14:27 <@Catonic> brimstone: HA internet is nice. But when AT&T goes down, 4G gets overloaded.
14:27 < Goat21_HM> lol
14:27 < Goat21_HM> poor guy
14:40 <@Catonic> yeah, can't convince anyone to put an antenna up where I can use the high-gain dish and voyager my ass in
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14:51 < Goat21_HM> lol
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14:58 <@Shadow404> <@brimstone> well i know one thing...
14:58 <@Shadow404> always figured as much
14:58 <@Shadow404> not much else
14:58 <@brimstone> and that's "always get on black"
14:58 <@brimstone> *bet
14:58 <@brimstone> get? that doesn't make sense
14:58 <@Shadow404> law
14:58 <@Shadow404> if your into the chocolate.....
14:58 <@Shadow404> brimstone: did you want the dpc3010?
14:59 <@brimstone> nah
14:59 <@Shadow404> ok
14:59 <@brimstone> you on uverse now?
14:59 <@Shadow404> nope, that was a horrible mess
14:59 <@Shadow404> let me show you their wiring job at my demarc to my house
14:59 < Goat21_HM> usually is with AA&T
14:59 <@brimstone> what are you on now, and why are you shedding the modem?
15:00 <@Shadow404> comcast
15:00 <@Shadow404> got wrong version of the dpc
15:00 <@brimstone> ah
15:00 <@Shadow404> comcast only works on 3008 not 3010
15:00 <@Shadow404> at least in my area
15:00 <@brimstone> what's the difference?
15:00 <@Shadow404> some sort of firmware
15:01 <@Shadow404> i dunno
15:01 <@Shadow404> their both 3.0
15:01 <@Shadow404> which is why i was confused
15:01 <@brimstone> *they're
15:01 <@brimstone> huh, ok
15:01 <@Shadow404> its on their approved modem list
15:01 <@brimstone> *it's
15:01 < Goat21_HM> YOU'RE AN APPROVED MODEM
15:01 <@Shadow404> so i bet they only have pe configs for the 3008 and didnt bother with the 3010
15:01  * brimstone dies
15:01 < Goat21_HM> lol
15:01 <@Shadow404> http://www.snsweather.com/att1.jpg
15:02 <@Shadow404> http://www.snsweather.com/att2.jpg
15:02 <@Shadow404> http://www.snsweather.com/att3.jpg
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15:02 <@Shadow404> thats the dearc job
15:02 <@Shadow404> *demarc box on side of my house
15:02 <@Shadow404> tell me if thats makes any sense?
15:02 <@Shadow404> they changed my house pairs and didnt bother to label
15:02 <@Shadow404> would be 2 weeks to tag and locate
15:02 <@Shadow404> i said screw it and got a full refund
15:02 <@brimstone> there's far too many wires there
15:02 <@Shadow404> and splices/noise
15:03 < Goat21_HM> BAAAHAHAHA
15:03 < Goat21_HM> jesus...looks like a birds nest
15:06  * Corydon76-home licks Goat21_HM
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15:55 <@Dagmar> Ooo
15:55 <@Dagmar> BestBuy is having a sale on 64Gb microSD
15:58 <@brimstone> oh?
16:03 <@Dagmar> $40
16:03 <@brimstone> that's not on their website
16:03 <@brimstone> shows $50 still
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16:03 <@Dagmar> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-professional-x-64gb-microsdxc-class-10-memory-card/1420025.p?id=1219051764866&skuId=1420025&st=64gb%20micro%20sd%20card&cp=1&lp=1
16:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: PNY Professional X 64GB MicroSDXC Class 10 Memory Card P-SDUX64U1-GES3 - Best Buy (at www.bestbuy.com)
16:03 <@brimstone> the samsung evo at least
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16:05 <@brimstone> newegg has the same for $2 less, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178677
16:10 <@Dagmar> Shipping
16:11 <@brimstone> only time
16:11 <@Dagmar> Fuck waiting
16:11 <@brimstone> you want to pay $2 more and deal with people?
16:12 <@Dagmar> Shipping is also $1, and it's not like Best Buy employees are people.
16:54 <@oddball> eh... I'll pay $1 for instant gratification.
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18:13 <@Dagmar> Okay.  Definitely too hot to wear the leather outside today
18:15 <@Dagmar> ...although I regret having gone to Best Buy now
18:16 <@Dagmar> They didn't have any of the 64Gb microSDHC in the place where I was looking, and some tool kept trying to sell me internets
18:16 <@Dagmar> I almost had to bite the kid to get him to go away
18:16 <@brimstone> $2
18:16 <@Dagmar> Now I'm being a dick and putting in a "pickup at store" order for it
18:17 <@Dagmar> If it's in the store somewhere, they'll find it
18:18 <@Dagmar> You would think the phrase "I am the *last* person you ever want to accidentally misrepresent something to." would be laden with enough foreboding that Jr. Sales Rep would have taken the hint and started running
18:42 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: they typically don't bother with getting their store staff to pick an item.  It's much easier simply to have the item picked when it comes in at the loading dock
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19:04 < eryc> last time i did that they waited until i showed up then went off looking for it
19:11 <@Dagmar> I do this to them regularly.
19:11 <@Dagmar> I just got the "Your order is ready and waiting" mail
19:13 <@Dagmar> Assuming they didn't idiotically grab a full-sized SD card by mistake, it'll be waiting for me behind the customer service counter
19:16 <@Corydon76-home> I've done something similar to a car rental place.  Reserved a car online 15 minutes before I picked it up, and got a cheap rate that way.
19:17 <@Corydon76-home> They thought they were going to be able to charge me full rate when I walked in
19:18 <@Dagmar> Frankly I suspect these guys are actually hiding a few units when things go on sale
19:18 <@Corydon76-home> It's SOP to hide things until they go on sale
19:19 <@Corydon76-home> And then suddenly they get sales price, minus employee discount
19:22 <@Dagmar> I think they hide stuff at this store so they can put it back on shelves after the sale is over
19:27 <@brimstone> right, because they care that much about workign at a BEST BUY
19:28 <@Corydon76-home> I think it's more likely that they make their sales staff double as stockboys, and they're too lazy to do their jobs
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20:07 <@sasquatc4> ^ that is true at least for truck days, back when i worked there like 14 years ago the regular sales staff would rotate to do truck unloads at midnight when they came in
20:08 <@sasquatc4> god i hated that place, mainly cause they always bugged me to sell service plans and the only time id do it was when I deemed it worthy, not on everything
20:09 <@sasquatc4> that and apparently i was the only one to ever actually complete their 'training' for computer sales, not that it was complicated in any manner, which gives you the idea of the knowledge of their average sales person
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20:50 < RangerZ> Corydon76-home: friend of mine got (forget if written up or just a "talking to" ) from his manager for not upselling a customer on gold-plated monster cable-HDMI cables... (side note: I remember the story really well ... but I had to look up the date when HDMI came out... b/c it seemed too long ago to be HDMI... b/c I didn't realize it was out that long ago... lol, but it 'just' came out)
20:51 < RangerZ> he explained to the customer that since the signal is sent digitally instead of analog, you could send it over paper clips and it would still look perfect, and that unlike old analog RCA/etc, the cables didn't matter that much.... yep...  thats cause for disciplinary actions... Can't inform the customer and build brand loyalty or anything... MUST milk them for every penny immediately
20:53 < RangerZ> one of the few reasons I like going to some game-stops is when they have (rarely) an employee(s) that know what they are talking about, and that treat me like a human and not try to sell me crap... lol
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21:42 < RangerZ> its pretty bad that skype ads don't even work properly
21:43 < RangerZ> its not like I'm using adblock _in_ skype, lol
21:44 <@Dagmar> That's pretty much why I gave that asshat at BestBuy the warning that I did
21:44 <@Dagmar> ONE fucking lie.  JUST FUCKING ONE, and I would have ripped him a new asshole for it.
21:45 <@Dagmar> Considering he was very cagily trying to sell me "internet" without giving me any details up front, it was a near certainty he was going to lie, and he might as well have been just chewing on the business end of the shotgun
21:45 < eryc> the internet is a lie
21:50 <@Dagmar> Fucking hell
21:51 <@Dagmar> This multicard adapter is fucking slow
21:52 <@wilpig> ?
21:52 <@Dagmar> I have one of those multi-slot things that goes in a 3.5 floppy bay
21:52 <@wilpig> ahhh tht kinda
21:53 <@wilpig> that kind*
21:53 <@Dagmar> Trying to copy the shit off the 32gb sdcard
21:53 <@Dagmar> Freakin 13 minutes remaining
21:53 <@wilpig> I thought maybe you were talking about some type of pci riser or something
21:55 <@Dagmar> ~18MB/s read speeds through this thing
21:58 < eryc> sd cards are slow..
21:58 < eryc> class 10 is only 10MB/s
21:58 <@Dagmar> Yeah but this card will do 25-30
21:58 <@Dagmar> You're talking about write speeds
21:58 < eryc> oh
22:11 < aestetix> wow
22:11 < aestetix> This is one of the winners from TechCrunch NYC
22:11 < aestetix> MixTape is a web app which lets you host the playlists for your party online.
22:12  * brimstone puts in a bid for MixTape at $1.8 instagrams
22:12 < eryc> that's at least 4 trillion
22:13 < aestetix> ok wow
22:13 < aestetix> "Indulge makes your nail salon visits more enjoyable, organized and fun. Just follow the four steps: mark your place, scan your nail polish’s barcode, snap a photo of your manicure and share with friends to inspire."
22:14 < eryc> *shrug*
22:15 < aestetix> I'm glad we're solving big problems
22:15 < eryc> big problems aren't relevant to most people
22:17 < eryc> now check out my latest nail polish OMG
22:20 <@brimstone> actually, i think big problems are relevant to most people, it's just that most americans don't care about world issues
22:21 < eryc> objective vs subjective
22:22 <@brimstone> there's also a long game that most people don't play
22:23 <@brimstone> i don't care about the war in the middle east, but i sure give a shit when the price of gas goes up 5¢ in 6 months
22:23 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I'd like to say that it's no worse than people instagramming their lunch at each other, but it's clearly worse
22:24 <@Dagmar> I can only think that the developers and engineers involved in that project are probably spending a lot of time just staring at their bosses in wonder at how fucking high they are
22:24 < eryc> its probably like a 3 man startup
22:25 <@brimstone> *woman
22:25 <@Dagmar> I hope so, but just the same, someone's smoking VC dollars
22:25 <@Dagmar> Or maybe grinding them up and snorting them
22:25 <@Dagmar> I blame y-combinator
22:26 < eryc> i'm hoping to make like $10 a week with my app
22:26 < eryc> maybe i can get some VC for it
22:26 <@Dagmar> That wouldn't be bad
22:26 <@Dagmar> For an app with $10/week revenue?
22:26 <@Dagmar> *chuckle*
22:28 <@Dagmar> It's seems like with yc you can get small backing for even the *stupidest* of products if you can come up with a coherent business plan
22:28 <@Dagmar> To "inspire" with pictures of a manicure?
22:28 < eryc> my business plan is to annoy people with fullscreen ads until they pay me a $1 for the pro version
22:29 <@Dagmar> You would like Teh Google to smite you?
22:29 < eryc> google sucks
22:29 < eryc> their ads don't pay anymore
22:29 < eryc> they probably rigged it to cheat everyone
22:30 < eryc> evil bastards
22:30 < eryc> i'm going to be using RevMob
22:31 < eryc> they have the highest eCPM
22:32 < eryc> the above business ideas are kind of encouraging me to come up with a similar stupid idea
22:32 < eryc> i have all the tools to make anything
22:33 <@brimstone> are you putting them in Icea Sunday?
22:33 <@brimstone> *Idea Sunday?
22:34 < eryc> what's that?
22:34 < eryc> oh HN
22:34 < aestetix> I wonder if we could just exterminate everyone born after 1990
22:34 < aestetix> since that whole generation is useless
22:34 <@brimstone> yeah, looking for today's link
22:35 <@brimstone> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7693961
22:37 < eryc> i think its https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7693262
22:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ask HN: Idea Sunday | Hacker News (at news.ycombinator.com)
22:54 <@Dagmar> Oh hell
22:55 <@Dagmar> Ben Afleck is officially unwelcome at the Hard Rock in Vegas for poker because he's _too good_ at it
22:55 <@Dagmar> lol
22:59 <@wilpig> cd https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/04/privacy-badger
22:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: Help EFF Test Privacy Badger, Our New Tool to Stop Creepy Online Tracking | Electronic Frontier Foundation (at www.eff.org)
23:04 <@brimstone> looks like a lame version of https://www.requestpolicy.com/
23:07 <@Dagmar> No, it's got a mascot
23:11 < aestetix> they learned from heartbleed
23:11 < aestetix> heartbleed had a logo and a domain name
23:21 < RangerZ> you know what I've grown to ABSOLUTELY hate... patchers that don't exist... if your application can check to see if it needs updated... it should have a fucking patcher built in which allows me to click 'update' and be done with it
23:23 < RangerZ> not a button that says "update" and sends me to go download a new installer...wtf
23:25 < aestetix> #firstworldproblems
23:25 < RangerZ> and?
23:25 < RangerZ> actually I don't really care as much about it for me
23:25 < RangerZ> but I think it has security implications
23:26 < RangerZ> the 'harder' the update path, for people, the less likely they are to do it
23:35 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: what I hate worse are platforms that have the capability builtin, but plugins that have decided NOT to implement checking/upgrading.
23:36 < RangerZ> and thats what upsets me mostly about it, is the fact that they are purposely making it hard for people to upgrade
23:36 < RangerZ> Corydon76-home: like FF/chrome plugins?
23:36 <@Corydon76-home> Like Joomla plugins
23:36 < RangerZ> ahh
23:37 <@Corydon76-home> I think it's more about laziness, but that laziness has a huge cost in terms of security
23:37 < RangerZ> I don't bother with that non-sense, I always install a plugin in wordpress that checks all the others (including itself) and emails me when there is an upgrade
23:38 < RangerZ> that way nothing 'auto' upgrades, but I get told when something is out of date
23:38 < RangerZ> i'd assume joomla has something similar
23:38 <@Corydon76-home> I'd have to check
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