--- Log opened Fri May 02 00:00:45 2014 00:16 < aestetix> RangerZ1: huh 00:16 < RangerZ1> huh @ what? 00:17 < RangerZ1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Judge "In 1987 he moved to Silicon Valley to join Parallax Graphics" 00:17 < GateKeeper> Title: Mike Judge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 00:17 < RangerZ1> sorry was 87* 00:31 <@klixa> he also made beavis ad butt head 00:31 <@klixa> and king of the hill 00:32 <@klixa> which, i am sur eis mentioned in the wikipedia article...so nm 00:34 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 00:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 00:40 -!- opticron [~opticron@pianoben.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: does chromecast do 'miracast' or w/e the S3 uses for 'screen mirroring' 03:02 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 03:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 03:07 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:19 -!- wilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] --- Log closed Fri May 02 04:19:09 2014 --- Log opened Fri May 02 04:19:17 2014 04:19 -!- wilpig_ [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 04:19 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 42 nicks [26 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 04:19 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 24 secs 04:19 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:20 -!- wilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:23 -!- strages__ [sid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odbzloiohhzmlywc] has joined #se2600 04:34 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @rhia, @SuMo_D 04:34 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: strages_ 04:35 -!- strages__ is now known as strages_ 04:48 < aestetix> Here's a picture of a man who cut off his own penis: http://i.imgur.com/46DIk6x.gif 04:52 -!- Netsplit over, joins: SuMo_D 04:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 04:53 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @rhia 04:56 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:52 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:57 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has joined #se2600 06:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 08:05 -!- opticron [~opticron@nat/digium/x-zeaiyyjqcmqbqjuo] has joined #se2600 08:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 08:55 <@Shadow404> shapr: diaf 09:07 < aestetix> hi Shadow404 09:28 * shapr hugs Shadow404 cheerfully 09:28 <@shapr> I'm in Minneapolis! 09:28 <@shapr> it's cold and rainy. 09:37 <@Shadow404> good! diac(old) 09:57 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:04 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 10:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 10:31 <@Dagmar> SUPER MEGA FUN 10:31 <@Dagmar> I've got a user trying to use Shibboleth 10:32 <@Mirage> Point them the appropriate group and then run like hell. 10:33 <@Mirage> Since they migrated that crap to Windows, the DS guys might actually be able to manage it. 10:34 <@Dagmar> I don't think so 10:34 <@Dagmar> For one thing, the hostname the shibboleth module is kicking back is vushib-idp-test. 10:35 <@Dagmar> ...and connecting to that and passing the query along results in the webserver just fucking hanging up on you. 10:35 <@Dagmar> No actual http response at all 10:36 <@Dagmar> So... either they're complete fucking morons (unpossible!) or that's vestigial LTM stuff with no actual nodes/pools assigned on the backend... 10:36 < wilpig_> that would _never_ happen 10:36 <@Dagmar> My money's on 'the user has this pointed at the wrong hostname for shibboleth' 10:36 <@Dagmar> All the other broken parts being actually broken, but unrelated to the root problem 10:38 <@Dagmar> I'm sure later someone's going to ask me why I grabbed the ticket from their customer, and my answer's going to be "Because you guys would just say 'we don't do userspace service configurations' and I prefer to embarass the idiots in Hill Center as much and as often as possible" 10:38 < wilpig_> oh and fuckin' germans. man. this guy means well but he is so far off base. https://github.com/samilliken/openDCIM/issues/456 10:38 < GateKeeper> Title: Improvements on dc_stats.php page · Issue #456 · samilliken/openDCIM · GitHub (at github.com) 10:38 <@Dagmar> I sent the guy a detailed series of openssl s_client output and wget calls 10:39 <@Mirage> Dagmar: that's high-level hacker shit...you can't tell them about things like that! (lol) 10:39 <@Dagmar> yes I damn well can 10:40 <@Dagmar> It's not my problem that they're all stupid 10:41 <@Dagmar> Because what generally happens--that I intend to tolerate no longer--is that they fucking wind up getting nowhere dealing with the AD idiots, and the customer doesn't know enough to push back properly, and as a result they get told to "just use Windows" 10:41 <@Dagmar> ...and we're not engaging in the proliferation of Windows servers just because we need everything brought down to the level of our _core idiots_ 10:41 <@Dagmar> Fuck that 10:41 <@Dagmar> I'll take those mental midgets on all at once and win every time. 10:42 <@Dagmar> I keep seeing a certain pudgy fucker on the crosswalk when I go across the street for lunch, and clearly he doesn't realize how close he comes to being pushed into oncoming traffic 10:43 <@Mirage> Britt? 10:43 <@Dagmar> You betcha 10:43 <@Dagmar> Hell, Steven got to hear "what I really think" about that group a few days ago and busted out laughing 10:45 <@Dagmar> ip-srv1/2 started (according to another group of people I don't trust an inch) beating the shit out of the Celerrra and breaking stuff, and they had no clue why 10:46 <@Dagmar> "I can come up with a couple of reasons why it might do that, one of which I can replicate in probably less than thirty minutes after spending about $50-60 in registration fees, but it's going to cost that army of bootlicks and nincompoops a whole lot of money if they want to find out from me" 10:46 <@Mirage> I'm sure it has nothing to do with the root cause of all the massive iowait we told them about last year because of poorly configured/designed storage 10:47 <@Dagmar> "Deploying a technical mitigation measure to forever eliminate it as a possibility with iptables would take less than ten minutes, but it would take three days to a few weeks to get it past managerials idiotic approval objections" 10:48 <@Dagmar> From what they described was going on, or at least, what the _roomfull of people_ determined to be the problem, was that it was being beaten to death with ns queries 10:48 <@Mirage> I'd like to know what the DIP appliances have to do with the SAN storage, though, given that they don't connect to it..only the log server does, and that's a NAS share. 10:48 <@Dagmar> That's squarely between fucking impossible and fucking stupid in my book, but I could make it happen 10:48 <@Dagmar> Feed the fucking things some bad NS pointers and then start querying the hell out of it 10:49 <@Dagmar> Instant jumpin' yer firewalls DoS attack 10:49 <@Dagmar> ...and of course the dumbfucks restarted the nameservers without knowing they could make them dump cache 10:49 <@Dagmar> ...cuz that's pro right there. 10:50 <@Dagmar> ...but this is what happens when your management starts shitting on the dedicated and skilled people and HR perpetually lowballs on pay. You wind up with people who have no clue why anything happens at all. 10:50 <@Dagmar> ...those were *also* some of the words I used right in front of Steve. 10:50 <@Dagmar> hehe 10:51 <@Mirage> Steve has no love for "the dept formerly known as ITS" either. 10:52 <@Dagmar> I know it 10:52 <@Dagmar> If i'm lucky they will eventually use me as a weapon against those guys 10:53 <@Dagmar> wilpig: I like that stackoverflow link. Very entertaining 10:54 <@Dagmar> "Sadly, there are very little real knowledge in the world. And especially in the world of Q&A sites. People tend to repeat the information they had read and found reasonable. Without running any tests to proof or even without laying their hands on. So, "often noted" shouldn't be considered as a reliable source at all." 10:54 <@Dagmar> Can I get an "A-MEN", bruthas! 10:55 <@Dagmar> Far as I know the primary reason to use procedures is simply one of security. Period. 10:56 <@Dagmar> I've never seen anyone doing anything complex enough to make it worth giving a shit whether mysql can cache the query or not... 10:57 <@Dagmar> ...nor do I think anyone making a query complex enough for it to make a difference whether or not mysql can cache the query is someone who shoudlnt' eb fed to sharks 10:59 <@Dagmar> ...and as far as I know "prepared" statements are effecively temporary procedures. 10:59 < wilpig_> Dagmar: I find it useful occasionally. Luckily I did actually test that earlier 10:59 <@Dagmar> Letting mysql (and databases in general) optimize how they search your tables is good. 11:00 <@Dagmar> If your queries need the database server to think about them a little while in order to meaningfully optimize them, then fuck you 11:00 < wilpig_> I agree that we should add indexes to the fields we search often but for the most part the shit he posted is useless 11:04 <@Dagmar> Well, he might be on less-than-marshy ground about the tree coming up in ugly mode 11:04 <@Dagmar> The rest is definitely crazytalk tho 11:05 <@Dagmar> Virtualbox? really? 11:05 <@Dagmar> heh 11:07 < wilpig_> I'm gonna look into the menu but my guess was it was an initial load the jquery module that makes the menu wasn't cached. but it should have been from the first time he hit the site 11:08 < wilpig_> just dug into the code and the menu formatting takes place the second it gets put on the screen so it shouldn't be affected by any of the long data loads 11:13 <@Dagmar> Aww... no more remote controlled terrorist copters on woot 11:13 <@Dagmar> They were selling that overpriced white one yesterday 11:24 < wilpig_> okay wtf? so if I said to you "I need to call the bank to get the forms for an eft" what is your response? 11:25 <@Mirage> "Can't you do that online?" 11:25 < wilpig_> I wish. going to another bank. 11:25 <@Dagmar> Why not use Paypal 11:25 < wilpig_> AJ 11:25 < wilpig_> 11:22 EFT? 11:25 <@Dagmar> Oh wait... "WHAN R U GOING 2 SUPPORT BITCOINS!!" 11:25 < wilpig_> Dagmar: receiving person doens't have paypal 11:25 <@Dagmar> Ah 11:26 < wilpig_> my bank suggested western union but that involves me getting cash first 11:30 <@Mirage> Mail a check? 11:30 < wilpig_> they don't have a bank branch there 11:31 <@Mirage> there's no bank at all? 11:31 < wilpig_> they chnaged to that stupid walmart bank, wood something or other 11:31 < nachoguy> the walmart thing sounds cheap 11:31 < wilpig_> banks typically won't cash even a cashier's check for you if you don't have an account with them 11:32 <@Mirage> walmart and most grocery stores will, for a % fee if over a certain amount. 11:32 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.147.122.139] has joined #se2600 11:34 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 11:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 11:47 <@Dagmar> Awesome 11:47 <@Dagmar> Some dimwit took the bait 11:47 <@Dagmar> Fucknig hippie bitches started nitpicking someone's suggestion that, lacking a drilling template, people should just stick the whatever on the photocopier and make a template 11:47 <@Dagmar> "OH NOES PHOTOCOPYS KILL TREES!" 11:48 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 11:48 <@Dagmar> Being that the point is to get the drill holes _perfect_, using the photocopier is an excellent idea. 11:49 <@Dagmar> They want to run their mouths about "energy" and talk about just putting paper on the back of whatever and stabbing holes through it with a pencil 11:49 <@Dagmar> That will give sloppy results at best. 11:49 <@Dagmar> I suggested to save even more energy, just slather the back of the thing with epoxy, stick it to the wall, and walk away. 11:50 <@Dagmar> ...and I suggested if epoxy was too much trouble, people could use handmade bogies. 11:50 <@oddball> wait wait wait... they say that you should punch holes through the paper with a pencil instead of using a photocopier because paper kills trees? 11:50 <@Dagmar> Don't expect hippie bullshit to make sense 11:50 <@oddball> I wonder what they think that pencil is made of? 11:50 <@Dagmar> "Dagmar d'Surreal: 11:50 <@Dagmar> Epoxy: is expensive, doesn't bond well with that fat PE plastic, is a bitch to remove from the wall, is an irritant and carcinogen (need I continue?)" 11:50 <@Dagmar> My response: "+Gregor Shapiro I note that you very conveniently overlooked the much more inexpensive bogies option. 11:50 <@Dagmar> ...or do you believe bogies are carcinogenic as well?" 11:51 <@oddball> annnnd joke recognition fail. 11:51 <@Dagmar> Precisely 11:51 <@Dagmar> Also apparently the idjit thinks theres only one kind of epoxy 11:51 <@Dagmar> I've got shit that can stick midgets to aluminum telephone poles 11:52 <@Dagmar> Use the right type of epoxy and PE plastic is no problem 11:52 <@Dagmar> ...but I'm going to see how far I can spin this guy out. :) 11:52 <@Dagmar> He has done gone and fucked with the wrong crazy man 11:53 <@oddball> Yeah... I would think the big issue would be making sure you had a solid bond with the wall and the question of whether or not the weight would just pull the paint off. 11:54 <@Dagmar> Wow. SOmeone's been skipping their meds https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=817033734993095 11:54 < GateKeeper> Title: Comments (at www.facebook.com) 11:55 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:55 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 11:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 11:57 <@oddball> "I'm going to go super saiyan?" That's hysterical. 11:57 < wilpig_> the best part of that is the next car just pulls up like "yeah nothing odd just happened, gimme mah shit" 11:58 <@shapr> good morning? 11:58 < wilpig_> no 11:59 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:00 -!- You're now known as wilpig 12:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o wilpig] by ChanServ 12:01 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:01 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 12:01 <@shapr> wilpig: do you ever have good mornings? 12:01 <@wilpig> I count any morning that I wake up as a bad morning 12:02 -!- You're now known as wilpig_ 12:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [-o wilpig_] by ChanServ 12:02 <@Mirage> wilpig_: unless there's bacon for breakfast 12:02 -!- You're now known as wilpig 12:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o wilpig] by ChanServ 12:02 <@RangerZ> he said the same thing on his honeymoon.... no bacon 12:03 -!- You're now known as wilpig_ 12:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [-o wilpig_] by ChanServ 12:04 <@Mirage> RangerZ: I used to refer to his ex wife as "Mrs Piggy" 12:04 < wilpig_> as did I 12:04 -!- You're now known as wilpig 12:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o wilpig] by ChanServ 12:04 <@RangerZ> hahaha... I was just about to make a joke about that, saying that he needs to go kermit and find the next mrs piggy 12:05 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 12:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 12:15 <@Dagmar> I think G+ has given me inspiration 12:15 <@Dagmar> Originally, I reserved my g+ feed for highbrow posts, and would verbally butcher people posting stupid people to G+ 12:15 <@Dagmar> er stupid things 12:16 <@Dagmar> ...because I figured hey, what the hell... Facebook is already ruined. I won't let them ruin G+ too 12:16 <@Dagmar> Today I realize, that this was a flawed plan. 12:16 <@Dagmar> There's simply no reason I shouldn't butcher and abuse stupid people on Facebook as well. 12:17 <@Dagmar> I might lose a few friends over it, but those are people whose judgment I consder dubious at best 12:33 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz1B7XwZe1I this is what is wrong with our "education" system since 2003 12:33 < GateKeeper> Title: School Play Cancelled So Kindergartners Could Prep For College (Seriously) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 12:33 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v0yiq5mjo4mudkz/Screen%20Shot%202014-05-02%20at%2012.33.23%20PM.png 12:33 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - Screen Shot 2014-05-02 at 12.33.23 PM.png (at www.dropbox.com) 12:33 <@wilpig> neat 12:34 <@RangerZ> NCLB(ahead) is so bad... and this "common core" isn't going to help b/c the fucking tests are ran/organized by private company(s?) 12:35 <@RangerZ> fuck this... my noon meeting got cancelled, going back to sleep 12:40 <@Dagmar> A certain person most of us know posted one of those ludicrous 'racism is so pervasive in our society that's become invisible' things. 12:40 <@Dagmar> I argue that a few douchebags doesn't mean all of society is ruined. 12:40 <@Dagmar> Let's see how long it takes for them to realize they're arguing with someone who believes about a third of the population could be classified as 'wasted meat'. 12:52 <@Mirage> 1/3...really? When did you start becoming an optimist? 12:53 <@oddball> He's mellowing in his old age. 12:54 * Dagmar stabs oddball 12:57 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 12:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 13:01 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:02 <@Dagmar> Seriously, tho'. When someone as cynical as I am thinks the argument about society being corrupt is crap, it's generally a sign someone should lay off the drugs. 13:03 <@Mirage> Or that you recently took a trip to CO 13:22 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 13:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 13:22 <@oddball> but... but... you're a white heterosexual male! Your opinion doesn't count due to your priviledge! 13:23 <@oddball> And no, that's not a racist statement.. because reasons. 13:29 <@Dagmar> Goddamn professionals around here 13:30 <@Dagmar> $backup_admin came to me because a system was taking far too long to backup and emitting weird file not found errors. 13:30 <@Dagmar> $printout looks suspiciously like session files 13:30 <@Dagmar> I think "oh hell hope it's not file corruption" and go look at the box. 13:31 <@Dagmar> In the same directory with a bajillion session files, hanging out at the end trying not to stick out like a klansmen at the million man march, I see a '.svn' directory. 13:31 <@Dagmar> >.< 13:31 < nachoguy> QOTD: "trying not to stick out like a klansmen at the million man march" 13:31 <@Dagmar> There are two million, one hundred and seventy-eight thousand, four hundred twenty one files in there. 13:32 <@Dagmar> No fucking WONDER the backups are taking awhile 13:32 <@Dagmar> So they've been using svn to sync some directories and their session directory managed to be in the way 13:32 <@Dagmar> lol 13:33 <@Dagmar> nachoguy: I can't think of any single thing (aside from random ascii art) that would be worse to see in a session state directory 13:34 <@Dagmar> I fired off a quick email to the team on our end responsible saying 'If these guys have been running out of inodes, I suspect I know why' 13:35 <@Dagmar> That customer is a great example of 'just smart enough to be a danger to others' 13:35 <@Dagmar> A less skilled engineer wouldn't have been able to get subversion running. 13:35 <@Dagmar> A more skilled admin wouldn't have let it peruse a goddamn session state directory repeatedly. lol 13:35 <@Dagmar> Too funny 13:46 <@Mirage> 10 admins +no current work (change moratorium) + no managers == nerf wars, spit wads, and (moderately weaponized) paper airplanes in the office 13:57 <@Dagmar> We're about in the same state here because of change freezes, except a third of us are on vacation and a third of us are working from home today 14:05 < aestetix> Dagmar: I have some links you could share with them too 14:05 <@Dagmar> No. 14:08 < aestetix> RangerZ: I just noticed your link 14:16 < aestetix> RangerZ: I gotta say 14:17 < aestetix> I am sick of Obama's push for STEM 14:17 < aestetix> Why not push for allowing teachers to actually teach? 14:17 < aestetix> STEM is cool, but not at the exclusion of everything else 14:17 <@Dagmar> How about we pay teachers enough to attract the ones capable of teaching STEM properly? 14:18 <@Dagmar> You can yell about STEM all day long and not a fucking thing will change as long as they're paying $38.5/k 14:18 <@Dagmar> er /y 14:19 < aestetix> I'm in favor of that 14:19 < aestetix> Man it seems that everything Bush did was a fucking disaster 14:20 <@Dagmar> Well, yes. 14:22 <@Shadow404> damn, 38k, no wonder bitch had to find someone profitable 14:22 <@Dagmar> They just don't pay public school teachers nearly enough 14:24 <@Mirage> Hypercolor lives! http://globaltechnacolour.com/hypermall/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=2799&idcategory=2#.U2PiufERjvQ 14:24 < GateKeeper> Title: Color changing shirt by changes in temperature. - Global Technacolour, Inc. (at globaltechnacolour.com) 14:24 <@Dagmar> god no 14:25 <@Mirage> Don't be a hater... 14:25 <@Dagmar> I'll stop hating when they learn how to make them in not obnoxious colors 14:26 <@Dagmar> You realize those product photos are bullshit, right? 14:30 <@Mirage> there's not really any more/less bullshit that the ads for the original Hypercolors were back in the '80s 14:31 <@Dagmar> There's no telling what shirt that guy is wearing since theyre all photoshopped 14:31 <@Dagmar> Move your mouse pointere between the images at once 14:32 <@Dagmar> Either dude can put on shirts and strike an identical pose like no one else in the world, or they just used the hue slider on one picture 14:32 <@Dagmar> Even the way the shirts are wrinkled is identical 14:32 <@Dagmar> ...but who knows. 14:32 <@Dagmar> Maybe they're all skin-tight and the guy is just the victim of a horrible burn accident. 14:34 <@Mirage> I'm sure they just changed the hue on a master image..makes it easier to do the "omg, that's so cool" effect of changing the color on the t-shirt "on-the-fly" as you mouse-over the images. 14:36 < aestetix> sigh 14:36 < aestetix> I wish fires could be in serial, rather than in parallel 14:43 <@Dagmar> I don't see a problem with serial fires 14:51 < aestetix> well 14:52 < aestetix> one at a time 14:52 < aestetix> rather than a deluge 14:52 < aestetix> dealing with bad code that got by testing, combined with a hardware failure on the database 14:52 < aestetix> it's been a fun week 14:53 < aestetix> oh, not just bad code, but code that somehow dropped a table 14:53 <@Mirage> Moderately amusing: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEhySzO14ik 14:53 <@Mirage> "How to be a road biker" 14:55 <@Dagmar> We spend decades refining this technology so that computers can now do thousands of things if not hundreds of thousands of things at once, and you have the audacity to complainn about it. 14:55 <@Dagmar> There's just no making some people happy, I swear. 15:11 <@Dagmar> loool http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/24jme8/so_this_just_happened/ 15:11 < GateKeeper> Title: So this just happened... : talesfromtechsupport (at www.reddit.com) 15:19 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I can't wait until Vandy administration figures out that Dell help desk is utterly useless. 15:20 <@Dagmar> OH I anticipate a great celebration 15:20 <@Shadow404> nah, will nevrr happen 15:20 <@Shadow404> most corps dont care 15:21 <@Shadow404> if they cost less, service doesnt matter 15:21 <@Corydon76-home> Question is, will the person who decided to outsource it still be working there and be fired, or will they be long gone 15:21 <@Corydon76-home> ? 15:21 <@Dagmar> I've already told some of those guys that if they apply for the position at Dell, tehy should be sure to drink as heavily as possible very soon so they can forget everything they know about Vandy's environment 15:21 <@oddball> Wait... Vandy has decided to outsource its helpdesk to Dell? 15:21 <@Dagmar> Dell should not benefit from the knowledge of people they're hiring from vanderbilt 15:21 <@Dagmar> oddball: Yes. 15:21 <@Dagmar> A perfectly worthless plan 15:21 * oddball facepalms 15:22 <@Corydon76-home> Someone outside the university was told that Dell got the entire IT contract, which I believe is false. 15:22 <@Dagmar> That had better be falsse 15:23 <@Dagmar> ...because I won't wait for notification that I'm being invited to reapply for my own position at Dell. 15:23 <@Dagmar> I will turn in my resignation on the spot and just take the rest of my vacation days 15:23 <@Dagmar> UNless Dell wants to pay me $100k 15:23 <@Dagmar> Yes, there's a surcharge involved because they're scummy 15:23 <@Corydon76-home> Vandy doesn't have a good track record of outsourcing anything, starting with their bungled PeopleSoft contract back in the 90s 15:24 <@Dagmar> IF they want people who flounder and lie and lose files and cause downtime, they can pay them $50k 15:24 <@Dagmar> If they want perfection and rockstar performance, they're going to be paying me for it 15:24 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: you're getting 6 figures out of Vandy now? 15:26 <@oddball> Considering they could pay students shit for helpdesk positions, I wonder what the fuck the reasoning was. 15:26 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: No, but if they want me to put Dell on my resume again they sure as fuck will be paying me that 15:26 <@Dagmar> oddball: Oh no. It's much better than that 15:27 <@Dagmar> oddball: You know those helpdesk people you'd get on the phone from the medical center? 15:27 <@Dagmar> oddball: The ones who could actually find out who to route problems to? They're going to Dell as well. 15:27 <@oddball> yes? 15:27 <@oddball> oh god 15:27 <@Dagmar> ...or at least, the jobs are. 15:27 <@Dagmar> The short of it is they're basically firing all the help desk people, and "inviting" them to apply for jobs in the new department working under Dell 15:28 <@Dagmar> But hey, at least Tajj Wolff will formally have no fucking reason to be kept around that I can think of 15:28 <@Dagmar> SO SOLLY 15:28 <@Dagmar> ROFLLOL 15:28 <@Dagmar> Since it seems like EAI is about to get DNS, it seems like the same thing might soon be true of Hogan (if I were nine times as lucky as I am) 15:33 < aestetix> What is the difference between an oral and rectal thermometer? 15:34 < aestetix> the taste 15:44 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 15:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:49 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:54 -!- opticron [~opticron@nat/digium/x-zeaiyyjqcmqbqjuo] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:04 <@Mirage> Dagmar: A little bird told me they have a project in the works being managed by Marshall to migrate all DNS to Infoblox. 16:04 <@Mirage> At least it's not doomed for failure from the start by having Cathy as the PM 16:04 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Steve designed it 16:05 <@Dagmar> It appears to be functional 16:05 <@Dagmar> At some point i'll probably be called to formally look at it and i'll show them how to turn it up to 11, 16:06 <@Mirage> Isn't it nice working for an Asst Director with a clue and doesn't drink the VU koolaide? 16:06 <@Dagmar> I can deal with it 16:09 <@shapr> jo tack, jag håller med dig 16:21 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 16:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 16:30 <@Mirage> Funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa9DLxDtPtc 16:30 < GateKeeper> Title: The Scrollwheel - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 16:49 <@SuMo_D> Mirage I saw your comment about hypercolor earlier 16:49 <@SuMo_D> sparkfun is actually selling some pigments that are heat reactive 16:49 <@SuMo_D> in small quantities for projects 17:05 <@Dagmar> Don't encourage him 17:05 <@Dagmar> heheh 17:53 <@Dagmar> Oh hell there's a meeting tonight 17:55 <@RangerZ> oddball: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-f_HgGFIEs don't worry... a Wii U version is getting attention... after all other versions are done 17:55 < GateKeeper> Title: Ubisoft Now Concentrating on Watch Dogs for Wii U - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 18:14 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 18:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 18:17 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.147.122.139] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:19 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:55 <@northrup> Watch Dogs for Wii U? WTH?! 18:56 <@northrup> Does anyone take the Wii U as a good gaming console? 19:16 < aestetix> https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/05/02/livestream-munk-debate-surveillance-greenwald-hayden/ 19:20 <@northrup> ... wait... I just realized that quite possibly the se2600 meeting could be going on WHILE I'm actually here at JJ's... 19:20 <@northrup> LOL 19:20 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:21 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 19:57 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:58 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 20:05 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 20:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 20:10 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:23 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:26 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 20:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 22:00 <@wilpig> seriously? http://www.phreaknic.info/newnash2600/ 22:05 <@Bahhumbug> Who designed that? A 10 year old? 22:05 <@Bahhumbug> Using frontpage? 22:05 <@wilpig> wordpress... 22:06 <@Bahhumbug> It's also incomplete. 22:06 <@wilpig> my current piece of shit holding page is 10,000 times better than that 22:06 <@Bahhumbug> Jesus. That's... pathetic. 22:06 <@Bahhumbug> You ahve to work hard to make wordpress look that bad. 22:06 <@wilpig> http://phreaknic.info/pn18/ <-- that is horrid and is better than that garbage 22:06 < GateKeeper> Title: Sooper srs guise (at phreaknic.info) 22:06 <@Bahhumbug> Congrats to them. They proved it possible. 22:07 <@wilpig> I like the plans to make the organization's financials freely availablet o any jackhole that just comes along 22:07 <@wilpig> available to anyone that asks that has a reason to see them, sure, just a quick link on a page about a con. WTF?! 22:07 <@Bahhumbug> Riddle me this. 22:08 <@wilpig> I think soemone isn't clear ont eh different between a page for the con and a page for the organization 22:08 <@Bahhumbug> Why does that site need an xmlrpc callback? 22:08 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.phreaknic.info/newnash2600/xmlrpc.php 22:08 <@wilpig> because exploits don't happen to wordpress 22:08 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, right. 22:09 <@Bahhumbug> Thanks for clearing that up for me. 22:09 <@Bahhumbug> I pray someone is going to call them out. 22:09 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously. Who designed that? Crazycunt? 22:09 <@wilpig> I would but they aren't gonna listen. dolemite is laughing right now for what it coutns 22:10 <@brimstone> leave Dolemite alone, he just wants to bring his kids to phreaknic 22:11 <@wilpig> he brought them already 22:12 <@wilpig> he's also one of those parents that talks to his kids and they listen when he says "don't do what notlarry is doing" 22:13 <@wilpig> 486 cd phreaknic.info/pn18 22:13 <@wilpig> 487 ls 22:13 <@wilpig> 488 ln -s index.html defacecomplete.html 22:13 <@wilpig> uh... duh huh? 22:14 <@wilpig> or was that me defacing the site 22:14 <@wilpig> I seem to remember ranting abou that 22:20 <@Bahhumbug> Oh. Code of Conduct as I suspected. 22:20 <@Bahhumbug> Excuse me while I laugh quietly to myself. 22:20 <@wilpig> that was mentioned in the notes tonight. someone is really pushing that agenda... 22:20 <@Bahhumbug> Cunt. 22:20 <@Bahhumbug> She's unbanned and hasn't shown back up, by the way. 22:21 <@Corydon76-home> I've suggested a course of action for Code of Conduct, and it's being implemented as "Don't be a Dick" 22:21 <@wilpig> i'm not hoping it shows up 22:22 <@Bahhumbug> That's my rule. I want credit. 22:22 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, wait. 22:22 <@Bahhumbug> No. I don't. 22:22 <@Corydon76-home> That's been the rule for a long time 22:22 <@Corydon76-home> There are more specific rules, if people want them, as well. 22:22 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Well, damn 22:22 <@Dagmar> I'd hoped to have an entertaining video to share, but my trolling fell flat 22:23 <@wilpig> Corydon76-home: is peaches home now? 22:23 <@Corydon76-home> But it basically comes down to us being able to eject anybody at any time for any reason 22:23 <@Corydon76-home> Yes 22:23 <@wilpig> still a big queen? 22:23 <@Corydon76-home> He was discharged from outpatient today 22:23 <@Bahhumbug> Umm. You don't need something in black and white to kick someone out. 22:23 <@Corydon76-home> Yep, still the same 22:23 <@Dagmar> He seemed a little ragged but I didn't want to say anything 22:23 <@Bahhumbug> Just point Dagmar at 'em 22:23 <@wilpig> good deal. glad to hear 22:23 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Crazypants was asking me about hte use of the Hacker Inside logo 22:24 <@wilpig> we've always had it in writing we could eject anyone at any time for any reason 22:24 <@Bahhumbug> Did you tell her to fuck off? 22:24 <@wilpig> ^ 22:24 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: that's the point of code of conduct 22:24 <@Dagmar> I was ready to go way better than that 22:24 <@Bahhumbug> If she says "Hello" the only reply is "Fuck off." 22:24 <@Bahhumbug> This holds true for anything out of her. 22:24 <@wilpig> Corydon76-home: we dont' need a code of conduct for that. it's a phrase. you state it, it's been said, done. 22:24 <@Corydon76-home> In other words, the rule really is, "Don't piss us off." 22:24 <@Bahhumbug> And you need a rule for this? 22:25 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: So we had one the entire time, now it has a title. 22:25 <@Dagmar> I reminded her that it's protected as parody, so it has to stay in context. Pointed out that I nixed it's use as a full page watermark because it was probably not protected, and said it needed to be clearly corner branding or be on some kind of container 22:25 <@Dagmar> I gave some examples of things it could' 22:25 <@wilpig> we had a rule. that's it 22:25 <@Dagmar> er couldn't be on, one of which was a bikini top. 22:25 <@wilpig> Dagmar: "two-headed ogre has been spotted." 22:25 <@Dagmar> I had the phone in video camera mode and _ready_ 22:25 <@wilpig> "two-headed ogre has died." 22:25 <@Dagmar> Got yer gnomes properly trained now? 22:26 <@wilpig> yeah. 22:26 <@wilpig> since they can train and not fucking starve 22:26 <@Dagmar> I was totallt waiting for her to ask why not a bikini top 22:26 <@wilpig> I have used it as a full page watermark. 22:26 <@Dagmar> I was going to say flat out "Don't be silly. There are no chicks who are hackers" 22:26 <@Dagmar> ...and then bring the camera up. 22:26 <@Dagmar> She completely missed it 22:26 <@wilpig> it's on the 15 or 16 site. the year I made nyanlarry 22:27 <@wilpig> it's behind all the divs 22:27 <@Dagmar> Yeah but I did my due diligence in saying you shoudln't do that 22:27 <@Corydon76-home> I suspect that given the number of parodies of the Intel Inside logo out there, it's sufficiently diluted as a trademark by now 22:27 <@Dagmar> I can't exactly control you 22:27 <@wilpig> also true 22:27 <@Dagmar> I was really hoping to get a crazypants blowup on camera tho 22:27 <@wilpig> I wish you had as well 22:27 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: a blowup doll? 22:28 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: No, an Amber exploding with rage 22:28 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I think an Amber blow up doll would be a major attraction 22:28 <@wilpig> Dagmar: I have noticed merchants don't just appear now 22:28 <@wilpig> you pretty much have to call for them 22:28 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Euw 22:28 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Makes it easier for them to not be murdered and you get blamed for it 22:28 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: with removable dentures... Gobbling Amber... 22:29 <@wilpig> lol 22:29 <@wilpig> that memory will never die 22:29 <@Dagmar> Yeah and *I'm* supposed to be a chauvanist. 22:29 <@wilpig> we all should have been more drunk that night though 22:29 <@Dagmar> Pfft. 22:29 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: I hate you. 22:29 <@Dagmar> lol 22:29 <@Bahhumbug> That was not an image I needed. 22:29 <@Bahhumbug> Jesus. 22:29 <@Bahhumbug> wtf is wrong with you? 22:29 <@wilpig> there is a picture of that somewhere, right? 22:29 <@Corydon76-home> I think so, yes 22:29 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: the original was "Gobbling Granny" 22:30 <@wilpig> Goo Gobbling Granny 22:30 <@Bahhumbug> I find that more attractive. 22:30 <@Bahhumbug> Much more, actually. 22:30 <@Corydon76-home> It's a real sex doll 22:31 <@Bahhumbug> Damn it. 22:31 <@Bahhumbug> I don't think I have any bleach here. 22:31 <@Corydon76-home> http://www.amazon.com/Pipedream-Extreme-Gobblin-Granny-Flesh/dp/B0024V8XCK 22:31 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah... no. 22:31 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: we have a ready supply of bleach. http://aestetix.tumblr.com 22:31 < GateKeeper> Title: Aestetix (at aestetix.tumblr.com) 22:31 <@Bahhumbug> hahaha 22:31 <@Corydon76-home> $22.27 on Amazon 22:31 <@wilpig> god bless your tumblr aestetix 22:32 <@Corydon76-home> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L116zfX0Kq8 22:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Goo Gobblin Granny Love Doll - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 22:32 <@wilpig> oh dear god 22:33 <@wilpig> I just might have ot send that link places for my amusement 22:33 <@Dagmar> So apparently https://downloadcenter.intel.com gives a _Server-side_ error if you visit it with the latest FF beta 22:33 < GateKeeper> Title: Intel Download Center (at downloadcenter.intel.com) 22:34 <@wilpig> interesting 22:34 <@Corydon76-home> http://www.spencersonline.com/product/pd-gilf-doll/ 22:34 < GateKeeper> Title: G.I.L.F. Granny Id Like to Fuck Inflatable Love Doll (at www.spencersonline.com) 22:34 <@wilpig> server size browser snooping? 22:34 <@wilpig> side* 22:35 <@Bahhumbug> Server size? Is that larger or smallr than super size? 22:35 <@wilpig> depends on your support contract? 22:41 <@wilpig> Dagmar: if you want it. after I finish tinkering with this one it should make for an interesting save 22:41 <@Dagmar> I am still waiting for these damn gnomes to finish some massive reconstruction projects 22:42 <@Dagmar> If this were Dwarf Fortress I'd have dwarves working themselves to death all over the place 22:42 <@wilpig> I'm in the middle of flattening most of the map. heh 22:42 <@Dagmar> I'm still trying to space-optimize and reduce the amount of running "all over the goddamn place" they're doing 22:42 <@Dagmar> They're still bloody stupid about wheelbarrows 22:43 <@wilpig> generally, yes 22:43 <@wilpig> mine won't seem to use them for cotton or seeds 22:44 <@Dagmar> I don't pay attention to what they're doing with them so much as I see guys toting things around while there's four wheelbarrows just sitting around unused a level below 22:44 <@Dagmar> If I could I'd have my Teamsters caste just assigned a wheelbarrow each permanently 22:44 <@Dagmar> I did finally clue in that the nimblest fuckers need to be militia, and the next nimblest need to be Teamsters 22:45 <@Dagmar> Fast gnomes get shit done 22:45 <@Dagmar> I don't have crippled gnomes. 22:45 <@Dagmar> I still alt-f4 if anyone dies 22:45 <@wilpig> I sent my last cripple gnome with a load of skulls to deliver to the trolls 22:45 <@Dagmar> Yes, this is the reason the gnomes I have are incredibly lethal 22:50 <@NotLarry> ls 22:51 <@Dagmar> I decided I didn't want any more damn gimp gnomes 22:51 <@Dagmar> So... anyone gets crippled or killed, screw it. alt-f4 and reload 22:52 <@Dagmar> The only reason I ever lose a fortress in DF is at least a respectable issue of it coming up with something incredibly bizarre to fuck me over with 22:52 <@Dagmar> Giant lizards made of acid and spikes? No problem. I know what to do. 22:52 <@Dagmar> Shortage of beer? Fuck that. I've been playing DF too long for that to happen. 22:53 <@Dagmar> Plague of zombies? Turtle like a motherfucker. 22:53 <@Dagmar> ...but I don't really care for that Gnomoria cities are basically destined to fail just because of goblinium poisoning 22:54 <@Dagmar> Once you start collecting and smelting goblinium, the attackers start killing people and you have a fortress full of fresh newbs, until the attackers are strong enough to kill everyone 22:54 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srGvf9JFhpQ so the soviet propaganda might not be a good idea... 22:54 < GateKeeper> Title: Russian Troops Strike: Violence Erupts In Ukraine - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 22:54 <@Dagmar> Chokepointing the place with two squads of constantly training guys seems to be the only way to stop that 22:55 <@Dagmar> Soo... invading forces die in about thirty seconds or less 22:55 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: russia isn't invading finland again... 22:55 <@Dagmar> Looks like mainly not all of the Ukraine thinks they got a fair deal 22:56 <@Dagmar> We'll see what Putin does 22:56 <@Dagmar> We still shouldn't be invading 22:56 <@Dagmar> We let all of Egypt go apeshit over things some of our citizens did 22:56 <@Dagmar> We can let these guys sort their shit out 22:59 <@Dagmar> Yeah it's great we've got dimwits reading websites to us on Youtube 22:59 <@Dagmar> *facepalm* 23:00 <@Dagmar> TYT is a great example of why I have a low opinion of most vloggers 23:00 <@RangerZ> whats the fucking difference, thats what CNN, NBC news, etc all do too, AP reports, etc 23:00 <@Dagmar> A few of _those_ people still realize they're supposed to be reporting on the news, not _passing judgment_ on it 23:01 <@Dagmar> I'm just waiting for one of these jokers to get to that point 23:01 <@Dagmar> ...and Cenk is doing it right now 23:01 <@Dagmar> pfft 23:15 <@wilpig> haha dolemite cracks me up sometimes 23:17 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 23:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 23:42 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:47 <@Dagmar> Whoa. 23:48 <@Dagmar> FF 29 just kicked in 23:53 <@Bahhumbug> Sorry to hear that. 23:54 <@Bahhumbug> "Classic Theme Restorer", while not restoring everything, makes it a bit more usable. --- Log closed Sat May 03 00:00:46 2014