--- Log opened Wed Apr 23 00:00:37 2014 00:10 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: you're obsessed with butt play 00:10 <@aestetix> Speaking of butt play 00:10 <@aestetix> Shadow404: portal 2? 00:37 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:42 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 00:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 01:05 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:10 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:25 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:52 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 07:20 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:09 -!- Bahhumbug_ is now known as Bahhumbug 08:14 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:36 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@c-98-193-176-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:36 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@c-98-193-176-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 09:36 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 09:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 09:44 -!- benthemeek1 [~Thunderbi@173.221.49.218] has joined #se2600 09:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o benthemeek1] by ChanServ 09:45 -!- benthemeek [~Thunderbi@zixgateway02.nhccare.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:45 -!- benthemeek1 [~Thunderbi@173.221.49.218] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:45 -!- benthemeek [~Thunderbi@zixgateway02.nhccare.com] has joined #se2600 09:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o benthemeek] by ChanServ 09:54 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has joined #se2600 09:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 09:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by GateKeeper 09:55 <@Corydon76-home> If you upgraded due to Heartbleed, it's time to upgrade OpenSSL again. 09:56 <@brimstone> ooh, what's the new one? 09:58 <@Bahhumbug> There will be _lots_ of updates coming down the pike for openssl. 09:59 <@brimstone> "will be" and "is" are two different things 09:59 <@brimstone> but that's why i IRC, for the vague generalizations 10:23 <@Corydon76-home> http://portaudit.freebsd.org/0b8d7194-ca88-11e3-9d8d-c80aa9043978.html 10:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: portaudit: OpenSSL -- Remote Data Injection / DoSportaudit: OpenSSL -- Remote Data Injection / DoS (at portaudit.freebsd.org) 10:34 <@brimstone> neat 10:34 <@Wilpig> a data injection race condition isn't as bad. can be, but not directly as bad as heartbleed 10:35 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING! 10:35 * shapr HOPS 10:38 <@Dagmar> Wow 10:38 <@Dagmar> Someone seriously put their foot in it https://plus.google.com/112788764123005028625/posts/NgTRQysiQwH 10:39 <@Dagmar> Some tool started running his mouth about NIST, and I gave him a warning shot... He did not listen 10:39 <@Dagmar> "It's funny they said they trusted the NSA but shouldn't they have verified the integrity of the code before accepting it? I still wouldn't trust NIST, nope not as far as I can throw them." 10:40 <@Dagmar> It just pisses me off that someone would pretent what NIST does is simple shit 10:40 <@Dagmar> Like, fuck that guy 10:40 <@brimstone> just like, verify the code 10:40 <@brimstone> it's that easy 10:41 <@Dagmar> Clearly 10:42 <@Dagmar> I made fucking sure to link a blog article from Schneier that was visibly from 2007 so it would be very clear this was *not* some simple shit task they skipped 10:44 <@brimstone> i saw an article say "in Schneier's name" or something to that effect yesterday 10:44 <@brimstone> "Schneier's forbid" 10:52 <@Dagmar> lool 10:52 <@Dagmar> Yeah there's very few people I'd consider worth that kind of worship, but Schneier is on there 10:52 <@Dagmar> He's just too goddamn good at this stuff 10:56 <@Dagmar> LambdaSix: Umm... why the conv=noerror 11:01 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 11:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 11:02 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.146.80.115] has joined #se2600 11:29 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:29 <@oddball> Damnit people... if you're going to bitch about government spending, at least find something that's actually wasteful. 11:31 <@oddball> Someone in another channel is balking at how much the gov. is apparently spending to buy new milspec tablets. I look it up, and it's about the same price CDW is selling high end Panasonic Toughbook tablets for. 11:43 <@Dagmar> Jesus OOO/LibreOffice calc is slow 11:44 <@Dagmar> Make a spreadsheet with just a _few_ functions in it--not even complex functions--and it starts taking whole minutes to load the spreadsheet 11:46 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: what? 11:46 <@aestetix> ugh 11:53 <@oddball> Maybe we should show this to a certain someone: http://www.doesnotplaywellwithothers.com/comics/2014-04-13-pwc-229.png 11:56 <@shapr> oddball: Wow, I will love this image forever. 11:56 <@shapr> Where can I order some of those cards? 11:57 <@oddball> Give the comic some time, and I will expect them to sell them. 11:57 <@Wilpig> is it me? 11:59 <@oddball> Oh, I was thinking for the next time an indepth dsicussion about making PN a "safe place for ideas" or some such comes up. 11:59 <@shapr> refer them to the noisebridge mailing list? 11:59 <@oddball> Also, I think Dagmar needs these: http://www.fuckstogive.com/ 11:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: All out of Fucks to Give? (at www.fuckstogive.com) 12:00 <@Corydon76-home> Should be fairly easy to produce them on vistaprint 12:01 <@oddball> The "eviromental impact" section of that site is amusing. 12:01 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: openssl has been broken for a long time, I suspect heartbleed is just the beginning 12:01 <@Wilpig> oddball: I really want some of those cluster fucks. lol 12:02 <@aestetix> Another major issue that comes to mind is the null character hack 12:04 <@oddball> I haven't ever witnessed people handing out the "offended" cards, but I've seen people talking about making them in some convention forums. 12:04 <@Dagmar> I'm printing some of those cards 12:04 <@Dagmar> Absolutely i am printing them 12:05 <@oddball> Which, the giving a fuck cards of the "you're a little pussy" cards? 12:05 <@Dagmar> The latter. 12:05 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: I think people mostly realize how actually handing them out makes you a passive-aggressive little fuck 12:05 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: ...and yet red cards exist. 12:06 <@Corydon76-home> Red cards? 12:06 <@aestetix> oddball: I have, but only in jest. 12:06 <@aestetix> At CCC they have become a joke. 12:06 <@Dagmar> Yes, as in the ones that the fauxmininsts got completely twisted up about when someone rather promptly stuck a bunch of them on one wall depicting a female human torso 12:06 <@aestetix> If you mean the red cards 12:07 <@oddball> aestetix: eh... pretty much the same thing. 12:07 <@aestetix> Well as a friend pointed out 12:07 <@aestetix> The big issue from a scientific perspective 12:07 <@aestetix> Is there's no way to measure whether it's effective. 12:07 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 12:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 12:08 <@Dagmar> Someone got kinda of irked at me about my minor rant to the Ingress folks about not doing things that piss off the cops 12:08 <@oddball> It's like "the talking stick." They only work if everyone actually agrees to play by their rules. 12:08 <@aestetix> Dagmar: it's also worth noting that the woman who created the cards (a friend of mine) does porn. 12:08 <@Corydon76-home> I see red cards for sports, and I see red cards being used by immigrants against LEOs in ICE raids, for example 12:08 <@aestetix> She's young and hot and does porn, which is the reason she's still a friend :) 12:09 <@oddball> Dagmar: I would think "keep a low profile, don't scare the mundanes, don't do anything to get LEO attention" would be a good message. 12:09 <@Dagmar> I'm like, dude, if this offends you that's just tough. We're all grown-ups here. I'd rather have someone offended because I dared tell them they were fucking up, than to offend them by treating them like _children_ 12:09 <@klixa> aestetix: unless she's fucking you, why would that matter? 12:09 <@Dagmar> oddball: yeah, and some tools went through Bicentennial Mall the other night at bloody midnight, DESPITE that we have discussed this with the park rangers and they don't want that going on 12:09 <@Dagmar> When I called them out on it, their response was pure sophistry 12:10 <@Dagmar> I told dude that if he keeps doing things that make the cops angry, I'll personally see to it that the cops know what he looks like, where he plays, and what he drives 12:10 <@oddball> So... they believe that trespassing (aka breaking the law) is perfectly acceptable in their pursuit of growing their epenis for a game? 12:10 <@Dagmar> They can start by writing him a raft of tickets for trespassing, speeding, and anything else they can think of 12:10 <@aestetix> klixa: because it's one thing positive about her. 12:11 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: because he thinks her doing porn means he actually has half a chance, when in reality, someone doing porn means you have far less of a chance. 12:11 <@Dagmar> oddball: Yes. That's what pisses me off the most. This is a fuckin' game. There is exactly _zero_ reason to continue doing something we know pisses off the park rangers 12:11 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: no, it means that she's really fucking annoying otherwise but we have a reason to tolerate her. 12:11 <@klixa> oh ok 12:12 <@Dagmar> There was no advantage to be gained by going through there at midnight and nuking everything 12:12 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: Red cards being used against ICE agents? 12:12 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: And why? Because you think you have half a chance. 12:12 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: i wouldnt think aestetix would have problems with women... hes attractive 12:12 <@Dagmar> It was highly unlikely any other enl players would have bothered going through there until perhaps 6-7pm the next day 12:12 * aestetix batters eyelids 12:12 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: He's also annoying as fuck. 12:12 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: true 12:12 <@klixa> LOL 12:12 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: just for you. 12:12 <@Dagmar> If they're going to keep doing dumb shit, they're just going to have to get used to me calling them out on it 12:12 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: http://www.ilrc.org/for-immigrants-para-inmigrantes/red-cards 12:12 <@GateKeeper> Title: Red Cards | Immigrant Legal Resource Center - ILRC (at www.ilrc.org) 12:13 <@klixa> i imagine he knows how to turn on that charm tho when alone with a potential conquest 12:13 <@Dagmar> ...and they may be shocked to find that I appear to have an inside track to making players go away now. 12:13 <@oddball> Also... shouldn't a warning card be in yellow? Red cards in sports means "fuck you, you're gone." 12:13 <@Dagmar> oddball: You are mistakenly assuming that they were being printed as an appeal to reason 12:13 <@klixa> aestetix: im banished to Petaluma :/ 12:13 <@klixa> it was supposed to be the bay damnit 12:13 <@oddball> Dagmar: Well... yes... I know... me and my logic and shit. 12:14 <@Dagmar> oddbal: If any momre of those kinds of things show up, I'll start printing orange cards (because 'green card' would be confusing. 12:14 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: I googled 'red card' because I honestly didn't know what it was, and it's pretty high up in the results 12:14 <@Dagmar> Orange cards will be to tell someone we explicitly approve of their lewd, licentious, or otherwise "adult like" behaviour 12:15 <@klixa> hmmm, ok google+ is asking me if i wanna add "Hey Dickface"...wth, lol 12:15 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: shouldn't that color be magenta? 12:15 <@aestetix> I think it would be far more effective to have a consent workshop at a conference 12:15 <@Dagmar> ...particularly if they're female, because guys are generally jsut _bad_ at it 12:16 <@Dagmar> If we follow the example of the fauxminists, we're doomed because no one will ever breed 12:16 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: Yes, because that's just something that people who need it would actually attend... 12:16 <@Dagmar> They'll be too busy checking privilege or whatevre 12:16 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: Ah... in sports (specifically soccer), a yellow card means you've done something bad and are getting an official warning. A red card means that you're out for the rest of that game, and usually the next game as well. 12:16 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: how about a workshop teaching people how to say no? 12:17 <@aestetix> klixa: where is Petaluma? 12:17 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: I still don't see the point 12:17 <@klixa> aestetix: omg, its that bad that you dont even know where it is !?!?!?! :( 12:17 <@klixa> aestetix: i am just north of marin 12:17 <@aestetix> lemme look it up 12:17 <@aestetix> ohhhh ok 12:17 <@Wilpig> aestetix: shortest workshop ever "repeat after me 'no'. class dismissed" 12:17 <@aestetix> at least that's a nice area 12:18 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Well, apparently one of the complaints the fauxminists have is how many women are "forced" to "pretend" they don't mind being flirted with (i.e., raped) because everyone will think they're a prude 12:18 <@Dagmar> Wilpig++ 12:18 <@klixa> aestetix: yeah, lots of trees and stuff... 12:18 <@Wilpig> aestetix: those that fail to repeat correctly will be sterilized on the spot 12:18 <@aestetix> Yeah I dunno 12:18 <@Wilpig> it'll drastically cut down on our smartass population too 12:18 <@aestetix> The fauxminists are just ugh 12:19 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: Only thing that would get people to attend such workshops is if we had an epidemic of male-on-male rape 12:19 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: Umm... maybe we could hold off on that and you could just perhaps, refer them to me for remedial classes 12:19 <@aestetix> And it's not a gender thing. I see men who are just as fauxministic 12:19 <@Wilpig> i prefer to eliminate the failed genes 12:19 <@aestetix> Most of them are also white and in their early 20s 12:19 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: aka passive pussies 12:19 <@Dagmar> aestetix: yes but the rules of society allow us to hit _them_ in their stupid faces 12:20 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: fortunately, those guys are also pretty easy for me to fuck 12:20 <@klixa> the reason women go along with flirting is cause they want the benefits of it, but not the actual flirting...benefits being various special treatment, like free lattes... its about havign cake and eating it too... 12:20 <@aestetix> haha 12:20 <@klixa> me personally... dealing with flirting is a small price to pay for the benefits...so they need to stfu 12:20 <@klixa> or buy their own lattes 12:20 <@aestetix> klixa: what's wrong with flirting 12:20 <@Dagmar> klixa: Well, there's also the cases where chicks like being flirted with becuase the guy in question is handsome and/or tactful 12:20 <@klixa> aestetix: yeah, then theres that... 12:21 <@klixa> i dont mind flirting... as long as its friendly... 12:21 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 12:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 12:22 * shapr flirts with klixa 12:22 * aestetix flirts with Corydon76-home 12:22 <@Corydon76-home> I don't mind flirting, either. As long as the guy in question likes all-male 3-ways. 12:22 <@aestetix> big boy 12:22 <@shapr> klixa: OH HEY! Did you hear the music I made last night? 12:22 * eryc smacks shapr on the ass 12:22 <@klixa> Dagmar: yeah...which makes men think "oh but he got away with it" cause some men are horrible at sensing when their attention is wanted 12:22 * Wilpig rests his hand on klixa's thigh 12:22 <@shapr> eryc: Hey, are you female? 12:23 <@shapr> I got smacked on the ass this past Saturday night by a cute 20-something at Yuri's Night. 12:23 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: wanna hop on the good foot and do the bad thing? 12:23 <@klixa> shapr: quit degrading me as a woman! lol 12:23 <@shapr> Was not expecting that. 12:23 <@Corydon76-home> shapr: I don't think trolls have genders 12:23 <@klixa> be a gentlemen like Wilpig 12:23 <@shapr> klixa: :-P 12:23 <@Wilpig> lol 12:23 <@Corydon76-home> shapr: smacked on the ass by a male or female? 12:23 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:24 <@aestetix> shapr: it's ok when they do it to you 12:24 <@shapr> Corydon76-home: female 12:24 <@shapr> aestetix: I do wonder about that double standard. 12:24 <@Corydon76-home> shapr: Did you ask if she has her own strapon? 12:24 <@klixa> shapr: and no, i didnt hear the music you made last night 12:24 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 12:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 12:24 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: she must, because you need a penis to be evil. 12:24 <@shapr> My ex-wife has repeatedly sat in the lap of unwilling males who are thoroughly attached, and no one calls it sexual assault. 12:24 <@klixa> shapr: im making tie dye tonight...i just got the dye and i got tee's fr me, and for the baby 12:24 <@shapr> but if I did that... 12:25 <@shapr> klixa: check it out! https://soundcloud.com/shapr/secret-crickets 12:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Secret Crickets by shapr on SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds (at soundcloud.com) 12:25 <@klixa> shapr: you have cute blinky lights, no one would mind you sitting on their lap 12:25 <@Corydon76-home> shapr: if you sat in the lap of unwilling males who are clearly attached, it wouldn't be called sexual harassment, either. 12:25 <@shapr> That may be true, but I'd still ask first :-P 12:25 <@Wilpig> shapr: i'm calling that assault 12:26 <@Corydon76-home> shapr: you asking first is why you're not getting laid 12:26 <@shapr> heh, the reason I'm not getting laid is that I currently do not choose to 12:26 <@Wilpig> ooo ooo Corydon76-home, why am I not getting laid? 12:26 <@shapr> I've had plenty of opportunities. 12:26 <@aestetix> Wilpig: becuse you're ugly 12:27 <@shapr> ouch 12:27 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: so far, you've refused my offers to sit on your lap and bounce. :-P 12:27 <@klixa> Wilpig: cause you are too far for me to come see 12:27 * klixa is horrible and setting women;s rights back by years... 12:27 <@Wilpig> klixa: come on. let's goto six flags next weekend. I just found out it's like 30 minutes from here 12:27 <@aestetix> klixa: wait you'll sleep with Wilpig but not me? 12:28 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig's not a slut 12:28 <@aestetix> I'm not a slut 12:28 <@Wilpig> is too 12:28 <@aestetix> Wilpig: how is that possible 12:28 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:28 <@oddball> He would be if he had the opportunity. :p 12:29 <@Corydon76-home> We don't know what STDs you may have picked up while wearing your Nixon mask at various and sundry sex parties 12:29 <@aestetix> Wilpig: walk around naked at Penn Station. After the police pick you up, I think you'll have a good chance of getting laid. 12:29 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: he does have the opportunity; he just doesn't like guys. 12:30 <@Corydon76-home> I'm sure we could find a nice leather bar for Wilpig in NYC. 12:30 <@klixa> Wilpig: alright, we can ride roller coasters together...then later i can ride ___ 12:30 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: yep. 12:30 <@aestetix> I got laid because of one of those places once. 12:30 <@aestetix> Man that was a strange night. 12:30 <@klixa> aestetix: your whole life is strange :P 12:30 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.146.80.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:30 <@aestetix> She was cute too. 12:31 <@Dagmar> It's amazing what happens when a girl is in a gay bar and decides she wants to get laid 12:31 <@klixa> ok , i have had too much coffee... /me goes into prude mode now to make this morning even out 12:31 <@Dagmar> ...when you're the only straight guy in the place. 12:31 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: See, right there, that last statement is the problem 12:31 <@klixa> Dagmar: when i was in german, i just went after a gay guy... 12:31 <@Corydon76-home> You're getting laid with women where attractiveness is an afterthought. 12:32 <@klixa> he wasnt qute drunk enough to turn straight 12:32 <@aestetix> Man 12:32 <@klixa> his name was Joachem 12:32 <@aestetix> I remember having sex in a hot tub at a public hotel once. 12:32 <@aestetix> The funny part was, after we were done and were packing up, we couldn't find the lube. 12:32 <@aestetix> And then it turned out someone went into the pool and was using our lube to jerk off. 12:32 <@aestetix> We decided we didn't need the lubel. 12:33 <@Corydon76-home> The hotel maintenance people hate you now 12:33 <@Dagmar> yep 12:33 <@Corydon76-home> It is positively the worst substance for pool filters 12:33 <@klixa> that same trip to german, some 40 year old couple asked if i wanted to sit in their lap 12:34 <@klixa> i was 16 12:34 <@Dagmar> different places, different standards 12:34 <@Dagmar> In another channel, I once got to deal with "what's wrong with having sex with your sister?" 12:34 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:35 <@Dagmar> The person was neither joking, nor from the south 12:35 <@Corydon76-home> From Appalachia? 12:35 <@Dagmar> Some euro kid 12:35 <@aestetix> uh 12:36 <@Corydon76-home> I wonder if the sister was a non-biological 12:36 <@Dagmar> NOpe. 12:36 <@Corydon76-home> like step-sister 12:36 <@Corydon76-home> Wow. All sorts of wrong. 12:37 <@Dagmar> Different places, different standards 12:37 <@Dagmar> Like how in some parts of the world, when someone engages in capital fraud, they're actually arrested 12:38 -!- benthemeek [~Thunderbi@zixgateway02.nhccare.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39 <@oddball> Dagmar: That's just crazy talk! 12:40 <@aestetix> I mean if it's true love, great 12:40 <@aestetix> But that says something about your dating pool 12:44 -!- benthemeek [~Thunderbi@zixgateway02.nhccare.com] has joined #se2600 12:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o benthemeek] by ChanServ 12:50 <@aestetix> Dagmar: did you ever see anyone eat their own puke at raves? 12:55 <@Dagmar> No 12:55 <@Dagmar> The shortbus who was trash-talking NIST came bacak for a second helping. 12:55 <@Dagmar> God damn I love crushing the hopes and dreams of stupid people on G+ 12:55 <@aestetix> Wait waht? 12:55 <@aestetix> URL? 12:56 <@Dagmar> https://plus.google.com/112788764123005028625/posts/NgTRQysiQwH 12:56 <@Dagmar> I jumped on him with both feet that time. He will probablhy get the hint. 12:56 <@Dagmar> THen again, he's already demonstrated uncommon stupidity 12:57 <@Dagmar> _Twice_ 12:57 <@Dagmar> We should really have intelligence requirememnts and testing before people are allowed to say shit on the internet 12:57 <@Dagmar> Real Names don't affect the level of stupid cominng out of people's mouths one goddamn bit 12:59 <@aestetix> Actually I'm pretty sure I know why real names policies exist now. 12:59 <@aestetix> It's part of one of the talks I submitted to HOPE 13:00 <@aestetix> And yeah it has nothing to do with discussion 13:03 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: what do you expect out of someone that works helpdesk? 13:04 <@Mirage> Wilpig: more than people who man the NOC..=P 13:04 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: Yes, I did enjoy calling him blueshirt. 13:05 <@Dagmar> aestetix: It has to do with providing a veneer of legitimacy for astroturfing and a means of more easily profiling someone for harassment/discrimmination 13:05 <@Dagmar> I don't think it's _ever_ been about correcting behaviour 13:05 <@Dagmar> Everywhere that's tried it in the past 15 years has learned it doesn't stop a damn thing 13:05 <@Dagmar> It's as effective as a three dollar combination lock made of tin 13:06 <@Dagmar> It discourages the innocent from getting into trouble. 13:06 <@Dagmar> No one else gives a fuck. 13:13 <@Dagmar> HAHA HE CAME BACK FOR THIRDS 13:13 <@Dagmar> What a maroon 13:19 <@Corydon76-home> NIST boy? 13:20 <@Dagmar> Yep 13:29 <@Dagmar> Ah I see 13:30 <@Dagmar> He's one of those little twats that thinks if he gets the last word in, he wins. 13:30 <@Dagmar> Cuz now he's calling me a troll. 13:33 <@Corydon76-home> I love the trolls that tell me repeatedly how they're not going to respond... and then do... interminably. 13:34 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:35 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 13:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 13:39 <@Mirage> Dolemite: Sarah got a new job making more $$..still not enough for me to quit my job and spend my days out on the lake though. 13:39 <@Wilpig> "just come here and look. it's not safe for work" 13:50 <@oddball> Wilpig: Having flashbacks to the NOC working under Dolemite? 13:55 <@Wilpig> oddball: that just happened... 13:55 <@Wilpig> word for word 14:09 <@Dagmar> heh 14:21 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.146.80.115] has joined #se2600 15:00 <@Wilpig> wow. just wow. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/loaded-gun-hidden-in-vagina-576432 15:00 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cops: Teen Had Loaded Revolver In Her Vagina | The Smoking Gun (at www.thesmokinggun.com) 15:07 <@Bahhumbug> “Oh, gosh.” He noted that he would eventually like “the little fellow” returned, but added that the weapon would require “a bath in bleach.” 15:17 <@NotLarry> help 15:18 <@NotLarry> The police came in yesterday and "ran some forensic software" on my roommates computer. So now his computer is not able to access the internet (ping works, he is connected, but no http/https working). 15:18 <@NotLarry> Are the police allowed to install shit inside my network without my permission? 15:18 <@NotLarry> Is my roommate allowed. 15:28 -!- klixa-mobile [~klixa-mob@172.56.39.172] has joined #se2600 15:28 -!- klixa-mobile [~klixa-mob@172.56.39.172] has quit [Changing host] 15:28 -!- klixa-mobile [~klixa-mob@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-mobile] by ChanServ 15:28 <@Wilpig> NotLarry: burn it with fir 15:28 <@Wilpig> fire* 15:31 -!- klixa-mobile [~klixa-mob@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Client Quit] 15:33 <@Bahhumbug> @fire Notlarry's roommate's computer 15:33 * GateKeeper sets fire to Notlarry's roommate's computer with the flames of a thousand suns 15:35 <@NotLarry> well, he is inside my network. 15:35 <@NotLarry> Ok, anyone in the nashville area got a p4 or better, 2.8ghz machine with 2g or ram or better they don't want? 15:42 <@benthemeek> You need a pc ? 15:43 <@benthemeek> I can get you something better than that 15:43 <@benthemeek> Need a monitor too? 15:44 <@benthemeek> Can you swing your own harddrive. I got tons of pcs but hardrives are few and far between 15:45 <@NotLarry> ben, yes please 15:46 <@NotLarry> so, my network was compromised from the inside. 15:47 <@NotLarry> paranoia is taking hold. 15:48 <@NotLarry> Yes, ben, if I could get that I will get him setup with a new computer, wipe his old system, turn it into a firewall or something. 15:48 <@Wilpig> NotLarry: I wouldn't touch anything of his with a 20' pole 15:49 <@Wilpig> if they cops are interested in him then you should put plenty of distance there and as much deniability as you can gather 15:50 <@NotLarry> Well, I can't afford to move out, and I'm his tech support. 15:50 <@NotLarry> and he is using my wifi 15:50 <@NotLarry> and it stopped working after comcast service went down last night. 15:51 <@NotLarry> so I am a little concerned that they may have something running inside my network now. 15:52 <@benthemeek> Do you want another little home router to put between himself and you 15:52 <@NotLarry> He is on my wifi. may be a good idea... 15:52 <@benthemeek> Nesting routers ftw! 15:53 <@NotLarry> any suggestions on forensic software I can run across my network to look for anything they may have left behind? 15:53 <@Wilpig> the only thing you can do is watch the traffic 15:54 <@NotLarry> yeah, I guess it is time to put in a firewall and start watching this shit. 15:54 <@Wilpig> if the cops ran something that was able to infect machines other than his, then you'd have grounds for a huge lawsuit for invasion of privacy, illegal search, etc 15:54 * benthemeek nods 15:54 <@Wilpig> there is no way they'd risk that 15:54 <@NotLarry> kk 15:55 <@NotLarry> I would like to ask them if it is ok for me to swap out his computer with a new one now that his does not work. 15:56 <@NotLarry> Which is something he had asked me about doing last week because xp is not supported anymore. 15:56 <@Wilpig> telling you, don't touch anything... sucks for him for the time being but don't get involved! 16:13 <@aestetix> http://liveworkoakland.com/2014/04/21/tech-folks-moving-to-oakland/ 16:21 <@NotLarry> Wilpig: I'm kind of already involved. I had been working on his computer for a couple of hours before he got home and told me the police had run software on it to look for cp 16:21 <@NotLarry> Then they thanked him, told him they found nothing, and left. 16:22 <@brimstone> did they look for mv too? 16:22 <@NotLarry> The surfed his tyler swift photoshop porn and complemented him on it. 16:22 <@NotLarry> brimstone: :) 16:23 <@brimstone> :) 16:40 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-243-105.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:42 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-243-105.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:00 <@Corydon76-home> NL: my question would be, why were the police tipped off to him in the first place? 17:07 <@aestetix> Anyone know if sidekicks allow you to save SMS/contacts onto the SD card? 17:23 <@aestetix> http://flappy2048.com/ 17:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: Flappy 2048 (at flappy2048.com) 17:47 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 17:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 17:50 <@aestetix> So 17:50 <@aestetix> Why is it that guys always wanna see pictures of girls, but girls never wanna see pictures of guys? 17:50 <@RangerZ> aestetix: lies 17:51 <@aestetix> what 17:51 <@RangerZ> guys are just willing to to admit it more 17:51 <@aestetix> There's a whole industry of photos of naked girls 17:51 <@RangerZ> I've actually been thinking about this a bit 17:52 <@RangerZ> female body is just naturally more attractive 17:52 <@RangerZ> two girls kissing, is more than likely going to be either 'ehh' or 'hot' 17:52 <@Mirage> This looks like something fun to use... http://trouble-maker.sourceforge.net/ 17:52 <@aestetix> klixa: is that true? 17:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Trouble-Maker (at trouble-maker.sourceforge.net) 17:52 <@RangerZ> the picture of Corydon76-home on top of aestetix... not as pretty 17:53 <@RangerZ> I'm guessing that a lot of girls think about 3somes with 2 guys as a fantasy too 17:53 <@klixa> aestetix: is what true? 17:53 <@klixa> i like seeing pics of guys...not naked tho...which i think is what you all mean 17:53 <@klixa> RangerZ: been there, done that 17:53 <@Corydon76-home> I like seeing pics of naked guys just fine 17:54 <@RangerZ> Corydon76-home: but you like guys 17:54 <@RangerZ> i'm talking about 'removing' personal taste 17:54 <@Corydon76-home> Even better if it's a twinky boy with his ass getting stretched and a panicked look on his face 17:54 <@Mirage> RangerZ: in the scenario that you're discussing, I assume that the 'girls' looking at the pictures (or not looking, as the case may be) also like guys 17:54 <@RangerZ> If two hot gay guys are making out, I can "appreciate" that people would think its hot, without thinking that way myself 17:54 <@klixa> RangerZ: i dont think the female body is naturally more attractive... 17:55 <@klixa> men have nice bodies too 17:55 <@RangerZ> not THESE men 17:55 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: not all of the guys appearing in gay porn are gay 17:55 <@RangerZ> myself included after HS sadly 17:55 <@RangerZ> lol 17:55 <@RangerZ> lost the 8 pack :/ 17:55 <@RangerZ> gained the keg :/ 17:55 <@RangerZ> Corydon76-home: I'm aware of that 17:55 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: don't forget that most porn stars also have a ton of makeup on 17:55 <@Corydon76-home> Even the men 17:56 <@RangerZ> I actually got offered a role in one once right after turning 18 17:56 <@RangerZ> girl i knew at the mall was an 'actress' 17:56 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: that's creepy 17:56 <@aestetix> RangerZ: and now you're old and fat? 17:56 <@RangerZ> was normal porn, not gay 17:56 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: either way 17:56 <@aestetix> how did you get offered? 17:57 <@RangerZ> didn't do it b/c of future political jobs 17:57 <@RangerZ> otherwise I would have 17:57 <@Corydon76-home> I know porn exists, but the recruiters are all especially creepy 17:57 <@aestetix> I should go into politics and make it a platform point that I've been in porn 17:57 <@RangerZ> I was one of the few people who wasn't a creep to her about it at the mall, so we talked on break, etc 17:58 <@RangerZ> aestetix: too late 17:58 <@RangerZ> there have been politicians already 17:58 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: so now that I know you've been offered a job in porn, I wanna see how "gifted" you are 17:58 <@RangerZ> and fucking scott brown was a model 17:58 <@RangerZ> Corydon76-home: she didn't know, and I don't tell anyone other than a girl I might be with 17:59 <@Corydon76-home> and a pic will do dandy; you don't need to drop trou in my presence 17:59 <@aestetix> I've also dated a pornographer 17:59 <@aestetix> although that was a lot of crazy 17:59 <@Corydon76-home> I would be a fluffer for a day on a porn set, if I could 18:00 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.146.80.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:00 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: why can't you? 18:00 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: I have a regular job, and my bf is jealous of any cock in my mouth 18:00 <@RangerZ> Corydon76-home: the thing was this is NE ohio, not a lot of 'big' studios left there 18:00 <@RangerZ> (warner bros are FROM youngstown itself, but thats besides the point) 18:01 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: there are plenty of porn outfits in Nashville for that matter, too 18:01 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: if I were in porn would you watch it? 18:01 <@RangerZ> so the fact that i did stagehand/concert lighting/sound, was a selling point , lol (though she 'might' have had a thing for me...) I honestly didn't really know how to tell until I was like 25 or so 18:01 <@RangerZ> TBH she probably did, now that I think about it... lol 18:02 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: Depends upon what you were doing in it 18:02 <@aestetix> RangerZ: how did the conversation go 18:02 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: though honestly, you're really not my type. You're too hairy 18:02 <@aestetix> I mean to me, if someone offers you a gig in porn, she probably thinks you're cute 18:02 <@RangerZ> this was 12 years ago, it was just a side comment, not a 'we need you tonight' kinda thing 18:03 <@RangerZ> yeah, like I said... I was stupid, lol 18:03 <@Corydon76-home> Or more specifically, too scruffy. I know guys who are into scruffy guys; I'm just not one of them. 18:03 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: so if I shaved you'd be into that? 18:03 <@RangerZ> I was _literally_ the kind of boy in HS that parents would introduce to their daughters, I was clean cut, well known family, great grades, did sports, etc 18:03 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: try "waxed" 18:03 <@RangerZ> my first g/f was actually setup by her dad, lol 18:04 <@aestetix> RangerZ: was she ugly? 18:04 <@RangerZ> no 18:04 <@RangerZ> very pretty 18:04 <@RangerZ> i was 'safe' 18:04 <@RangerZ> i wasn't going to 'ruin' their daughters, kinda thing 18:04 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: In other words, they all thought you were gay. 18:04 <@RangerZ> despite the fact i got head 3 weeks into it... 18:04 <@aestetix> nice! 18:05 <@RangerZ> _she_ was the one who was very adventurous , lol 18:05 <@aestetix> RangerZ: have you done anything with a guy? Even part of a threesome or something 18:05 <@RangerZ> nah 18:05 <@aestetix> RangerZ: now you know why she needed to be "safe" 18:05 <@aestetix> You probably were not the first blowjob for her 18:05 <@Corydon76-home> In Peaches' home town, the townsfolk figure the gay guys are "safe" for their daughters. 18:05 <@RangerZ> dunno, she was very 'publicly' the same way 18:05 <@RangerZ> aestetix: no I know I wasn't 18:06 <@aestetix> She gave you head publicly? 18:06 <@RangerZ> no 18:06 <@Corydon76-home> Oddly enough, you weren't the first blowjob for me, either. 18:06 <@RangerZ> i mean she was very 'publicly a good girl' 18:06 <@RangerZ> like i was a 'good boy' 18:06 <@RangerZ> etc 18:06 <@aestetix> oh 18:06 <@aestetix> "Good" girls are always bad 18:06 <@aestetix> Where is she now? Did she develop a coke habit or anything? 18:07 <@RangerZ> nah 18:07 <@RangerZ> she was on off broadway the last time i checked 18:07 <@aestetix> So yes 18:07 <@RangerZ> << knows more people on broadway or went into concert singing/conducting than any other profession , except maybe network/sys admin 18:08 <@aestetix> It's nothing to be shameful of 18:08 <@aestetix> My first gf was a junkie 18:08 <@aestetix> Well, recovering junkie 18:08 <@RangerZ> 3 of the schools in my county are on Disney's top 50 list of schools to go to for music 18:08 <@RangerZ> or were in 2000 18:08 <@aestetix> berklee? 18:08 <@RangerZ> Youngstown ohio 18:08 <@aestetix> oh 18:08 <@RangerZ> the suburbs have a VERY strong education system 18:09 <@RangerZ> where as ytown is _the_ worst in the state 18:09 <@RangerZ> where I went was top public school system in the state when I was in middle school 18:09 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:10 <@RangerZ> then no child left ahead started , and killed that 18:10 <@aestetix> man 18:10 <@aestetix> sounds like NCLB destroyed our school system 18:10 <@RangerZ> it did 18:10 <@RangerZ> 'common core' is about to do the same 18:10 <@RangerZ> I agree with it on one level 18:10 <@RangerZ> but the problem is... 18:10 <@RangerZ> its ran by a fucking private company 18:10 <@RangerZ> not a board of teachers/educators/policy makers 18:10 <@RangerZ> etc 18:11 <@RangerZ> so more privatization 18:11 <@aestetix> well 18:11 <@RangerZ> but atleast its better than NCLB , in that it doesn't cut funding to schools doing poorly 18:11 <@aestetix> Just think of how much worse it would be if Mitt Romney were president 18:11 <@RangerZ> also, common core, DOES do good things for teacher evaluation 18:11 <@Corydon76-home> Common Core itself doesn't hurt anything. The problem is that in the rush to adopt it, many school systems are trying to go the easy way out and buying a private company's product that claims to be in compliance 18:11 <@RangerZ> so I dunno, mixed bag 18:12 <@RangerZ> but overall, I think it _will_ help things in some ways 18:12 <@RangerZ> aestetix: I'd watch, I'd record it too 18:12 <@RangerZ> if you were in a porn 18:13 <@RangerZ> Never know what kind of photoshop fun with life size printouts at the next PN could be had 18:13 <@RangerZ> lol 18:14 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhreakNIC this at all accurate? 18:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: PhreakNIC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 18:14 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: given that I'm the maintainer, yes, pretty much 18:14 <@RangerZ> see also, could have derbycon, and/or what 404 guys do 18:15 <@RangerZ> but overall pretty good 18:15 <@RangerZ> I'm actually including PN in my application for a fellowship 18:15 <@Corydon76-home> Does Derbycon have a Wikipedia entry? 18:15 <@RangerZ> for Distance Learning 18:16 <@RangerZ> don't know, but I'm all for making dead links to stuff that 'should' have pages 18:16 <@RangerZ> lol 18:16 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: the problem with Wikipedia on conferences is that you need a newspaper or other traditional media to take note of it 18:16 <@RangerZ> true 18:17 <@Corydon76-home> He who shall not be named tried to get his own article, and it was deleted, because no media has ever mentioned it 18:17 <@Corydon76-home> So it's considered "not notable" 18:17 <@RangerZ> lol 18:17 <@RangerZ> thats a joke 18:17 <@Corydon76-home> No, that's actually the criteria that Wikipedia uses 18:18 <@RangerZ> b/c its so easy tog et media to print 18:18 <@RangerZ> sorry, fucking computer is freezing bad 18:18 <@aestetix> reboot windows 18:18 <@RangerZ> I got 3~4 BSOD in the past few weeks 18:18 <@RangerZ> I think my mobo is having issues with something 18:18 <@Corydon76-home> Yuck 18:18 <@RangerZ> its the only hardware i've swapped 18:19 <@RangerZ> I'm thinking it is sata related 18:19 <@RangerZ> b/c cache is an issue on chrome 18:19 <@aestetix> so in the south, are you more likely to get political office for being religious? 18:19 <@RangerZ> so it might be the SDD controller /sata/mobo trifecta 18:19 <@RangerZ> not 'likely' but 'min. requirement' 18:19 <@RangerZ> other than nashville 18:20 <@aestetix> wow 18:20 <@aestetix> in oakland if you say you're religious that counts against you 18:20 <@RangerZ> aestetix: you don't live in the 'real america' 18:20 <@RangerZ> ohio is like that too 18:20 <@aestetix> is like what? 18:20 <@RangerZ> NE ohio is do fucking deep blue, that I didn't _KNOW_ a republican until I was 17 18:20 <@RangerZ> but SE ohio is like KY 18:21 <@RangerZ> SW* 18:21 <@RangerZ> but SE also 18:21 <@aestetix> so all these reports of the youth leaving the church are hyperbole? 18:21 <@RangerZ> no, its true, but not as much as you'd think 18:21 <@aestetix> whatever "the church" means 18:21 <@RangerZ> its like me and catholic church 18:21 <@aestetix> sounds like there are cycles. I wonder how many of them return when they have kids 18:22 <@RangerZ> if they just gave up the fucking hating on Corydon76-home and allowed usage of condoms/birth control pill, I'd probably start going back to mass 18:22 <@aestetix> well 18:22 <@aestetix> the new pope seems to be headed that way 18:22 <@RangerZ> yes/no 18:22 <@RangerZ> on gays, yes 18:22 <@RangerZ> but not on birth control pills 18:22 <@aestetix> didn't he say "who am I to judge?" 18:22 <@RangerZ> not yet alteast 18:22 <@aestetix> ok 18:23 <@RangerZ> b/c honestly, I grew up going to mass every so often 18:23 <@RangerZ> and I _never_ once heard "hate this person" or "this person is going to hell", etc 18:23 <@aestetix> so you're catholic, you just don't go to masss 18:23 <@RangerZ> I heard stories about how to be nice to your neighbor, and about sacrifice for the betterment of society and for your spirit 18:24 <@RangerZ> shit that ..I'm guessing... all of us in this room would agree with 18:24 <@RangerZ> channel*/.... w/e 18:24 <@RangerZ> Thats the kind of thing I wouldn't mind being part of a community of, but I can't stand a lof of the other BS that goes on 18:25 <@aestetix> sure 18:26 <@RangerZ> Irish catholics are a bit different than a lot of other religions/groups b/c Irish, and Italian (2 main ethnic groups in youngstown) , are both aligned with the church, and yet, don't really care what the church says about things we don't agree on 18:26 <@RangerZ> my great-grand mother ... _actually_ called the local church... then kept on asking to "speak to your supervisor" until she got all the way to the vatican, and they refused to put the pope on, saying he didn't speak English (not that he wouldn't speak with her.... LOL) 18:27 <@RangerZ> over the issue of birth control in the 60s 18:27 <@RangerZ> b/c my grandmother had 4 kids 18:27 <@RangerZ> late 68 or 69 18:27 <@RangerZ> and my great grandmother thought it was stupid that since there is new medicine to stop births, that it should be allowed 18:29 <@RangerZ> and she was _one_ of the biggest donors to the church in the county at the time, and to this day, is one of the most religious people I've ever met (in the good way, charity, etc) 18:29 <@RangerZ> so we grew up with a weird dichotomy of 'agree with the church on whats good', 'fuck then when they are wrong' 18:29 <@RangerZ> LOL 18:30 <@RangerZ> I'm a Deist Agnostic Catholic, If I had to 'put something' 18:32 <@RangerZ> I don't believe in magic, there is no way to 'disprove' a clockmaker god, and I understand science.... So I don't fit into the church current ideology much right now, but I'm aware of what good the church _can_ do, and would like to see it move to do that 18:34 <@RangerZ> well.... calling it 'magic' is dismissive... there might be rules of nature we don't yet understand, such as being on a "higher plane" (other dimension) that can occasionally interact with our world... Who knows, I'm not 'against' that being the case, but there hasn't been any proof yet, etc... (hence 'agnostic' instead of 'athiest' 18:34 <@RangerZ> lol 18:35 <@RangerZ> LONG ranty answer, but not a 'simple' thing to explain, lol 18:36 <@aestetix> vagina 18:37 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Wke0CXjF8 18:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: 9 Year Old Save For PS4, Buys 100 Smoke Detectors Instead - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 18:37 <@RangerZ> 100 for charity, for his community 18:47 <@RangerZ> so about tech 18:47 <@RangerZ> ... 18:47 <@RangerZ> SCOUTS kept asking the lawyers in the Aereo case "how can we rule against Aereo and not kill cloud storage/services" lol 18:52 <@RangerZ> so that'll be an interesting case 19:00 -!- benthemeek [~Thunderbi@zixgateway02.nhccare.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:10 -!- nachoguy [~boster@198.46.132.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:10 <@RangerZ> so any of the unix-ly skilled people on right now? 19:10 <@RangerZ> is there a way to allow multiple processes to write to the same file, or same 'something' ? 19:28 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: yep, just do it 19:28 <@RangerZ> ? 19:28 <@aestetix> uh 19:28 <@Corydon76-home> Are you asking about concurrency control? 19:28 <@aestetix> seems like you'd run into locking issues 19:29 <@Corydon76-home> No locking issues at all 19:29 <@RangerZ> I figured they 'locked' the files 19:29 <@RangerZ> really? 19:29 <@Corydon76-home> Nope, most things don't 19:29 <@RangerZ> thats kinda impressive, or sad 19:29 <@RangerZ> not sure which one 19:29 <@RangerZ> LOL 19:29 <@aestetix> SO what happens if two processes try to make a similar edit 19:29 <@RangerZ> you blame Oracle 19:29 <@Corydon76-home> There are some locking mechanisms, but they don't have to be used 19:29 <@aestetix> haha 19:29 <@Corydon76-home> Locks in Unix are advisory 19:30 <@RangerZ> I have a pub/sub system I built with ACE/TAO (follows CORBA standard) 19:30 <@RangerZ> and I don't want to 'log' it properly 19:30 <@RangerZ> b/c thats too much effort 19:30 <@RangerZ> LOL 19:31 <@Corydon76-home> Do you just want a logging mechanism? Use a pipe 19:31 <@RangerZ> using multi-cast on the same VM as is... to bypass ORI mapping, etc 19:31 <@Corydon76-home> Or open the same file and use the append-only flag on open 19:31 <@RangerZ> yeah I need to correlate them all into one file 19:32 <@RangerZ> yeah, i thought of both, was wanting to see if there was a 'better' option 19:32 <@RangerZ> that I wasn't aware of 19:32 < eryc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZWT7Quvuow 19:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: Local News Airs Womans Giant Cameltoe On Live TV - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 19:32 <@Corydon76-home> As long as your writes are all done in a single line, single call, they will be grouped appropriately to the end of the file 19:32 <@Corydon76-home> What do you want, a messaging bus? 19:33 <@Corydon76-home> Those exist, too 19:33 <@RangerZ> i want it to 'work' quickly, with least amount of effort 19:33 <@RangerZ> TBH 19:33 <@RangerZ> lol 19:33 < eryc> i wouldn't listen to Corydon76-home 19:33 <@Corydon76-home> Not at the kernel level, but there are userspace libraries and daemons that implement a messaging bus 19:33 <@RangerZ> I just want it 'over with' 19:34 <@Corydon76-home> I don't quite understand what it is you're trying to do 19:36 < eryc> why don't you just use syslog 19:36 <@RangerZ> i have a bunch of different processes (3 distinct programs) where 1 runs as a pubsub coordination server 19:36 <@RangerZ> and 1 pub 1 sub, that are launched a bunch of times 19:36 <@RangerZ> want to just 'log' their output into a single file 19:36 <@RangerZ> in order, if possible, else I'd just timestamp 19:36 <@Corydon76-home> Okay, so use append-only 19:37 <@RangerZ> yeah, I just didn't know if that would 'work' 19:37 <@Corydon76-home> Yep 19:37 <@Corydon76-home> The existence of the append flag is precisely meant to deal with this type of situation 19:37 <@RangerZ> b/c honestly, it seemed too easy, even if inaccurate possibilities 19:37 <@Corydon76-home> So there's no race condition between positioning at the end of the file and writing. 19:38 <@Corydon76-home> Because prior to implementation of that at the kernel level, that exact problem did, in fact, occur 19:38 <@Corydon76-home> Also why the append-only flag exists in POSIX 19:39 <@Corydon76-home> Otherwise, as you noted, you'd have to do all sorts of messy locking 19:40 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-243-105.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:40 < eryc> what he said 19:40 <@RangerZ> ahh, nice, didn't realize it was dealt with at kernel level 19:41 <@Corydon76-home> Yep, that's why it's an open(2) flag 19:41 <@RangerZ> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/04/23/2231228/fcc-in-net-neutrality-turnaround-plans-to-allow-fast-lane another one of those "fuck this news story" 19:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: F.C.C., In Net Neutrality Turnaround, Plans To Allow Fast Lane - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org) 19:46 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-243-105.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:58 -!- Guest15367 [~diz@c-76-22-170-8.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:59 -!- diz [~diz@c-76-22-170-8.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:59 -!- diz is now known as Guest65201 21:39 -!- LoTUs456 [~LoTUs456@wsip-70-165-26-239.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #se2600 21:48 <@Dagmar> Goddamn fucking FCC 21:48 < LoTUs456> gotta love em 21:48 < LoTUs456> what did they censor this time? 21:48 <@Wilpig> nothing. they're backpeddling on net neutrality 21:48 < LoTUs456> really..... :/ 21:50 <@Dagmar> Only thing I can figure is someone's been bought. 21:50 <@Wilpig> that's a given 21:50 <@Dagmar> The FCC is generally _very_ traditionalist about shit 21:51 <@Dagmar> Most of the internet's going to be screaming with fury over this tomorrow tho, so we'll see what happens 21:52 <@Wilpig> it's just another way for the cable companies to try and turn the internet into the mess they've turned cable tv into 21:53 <@Dagmar> This will *not* be tolerated. 21:53 <@Dagmar> Not to show a short attention span or anything but... Superdoge? Really? 21:53 <@Wilpig> ? 21:53 <@Dagmar> http://pvponline.com/comic/2014/04/23/why-u-mad 21:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: PVP - why u mad (at pvponline.com) 21:53 <@Dagmar> Note: LOLBAT is a good guy] 21:54 <@Dagmar> His secret identity is Butler 21:54 <@Dagmar> The others are The Grammar Nazi, the Mad Hater, and Crocpot 21:56 <@Dagmar> You know, for as snooping as people try to claim advertisers are, I find it astonishing that I'm still being shown ads for Scions 21:56 <@Dagmar> It's not like I'm going to go rush out and lease one after I just bought one 21:56 < LoTUs456> you must own one....it's the Advertisement LAW 21:57 <@Dagmar> I can't figure out who the PowerGirl spoof is 21:57 < LoTUs456> lol you just need to search in google this "I just bought a Scion, now what?" about 50,000 times and the advertisements will switch to Car Insurance ads 21:57 <@Dagmar> Strangely, no 21:58 <@Dagmar> ...although I did spend about a month and a half nightly Googling about every goddamn kind of small car on the market 21:58 <@Dagmar> I am seeing mostly ads for Scions, and a few for Fiat 21:58 < LoTUs456> lol 21:58 <@Dagmar> None for Smart, which is odd. I suspect they're just fucking lazy. 22:20 <@aestetix> wassup 22:23 < LoTUs456> aestetix hi 22:23 <@aestetix> hi 22:24 < LoTUs456> I'm so bored...looking for a channel where I can meet new people from all over the world but I don't think many people use IRC anymore 22:26 <@aestetix> their loss 22:26 <@aestetix> You know 22:26 <@aestetix> Someone needs to hack facebook and change their logo to goatse 22:26 <@aestetix> I would love to see a billion people suddenly goatsed 22:27 <@Dagmar> It's happened before 22:27 <@Dagmar> Remember with MySpace themes? 22:27 <@aestetix> Yes 22:27 <@aestetix> That was awesome 22:27 <@Dagmar> Some idiot theme site hotlinked someone's graphics and the result was epic when he found out 22:28 <@aestetix> Jason Scott did it 22:28 < LoTUs456> Has anyone seen the NEW Myspace? it's garbage....you don't scroll down....you scroll across 22:28 <@Dagmar> UNNATURAL 22:29 < LoTUs456> freaking horrible is what it is...they must have hit their head or something 22:31 <@aestetix> penis 22:32 < LoTUs456> cack 22:32 <@aestetix> http://i.imgur.com/N7DfgTK.jpg 22:32 <@aestetix> penis 22:33 < LoTUs456> no thanks 22:33 < LoTUs456> lol 22:34 <@aestetix> don't worry, it's safe 22:34 <@aestetix> you can look at the penis 22:35 < LoTUs456> it's NEVER safe to look at Penis if you are a guy :P 22:37 <@Dagmar> lol 22:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah the XM capsule was a race condition caused by their load balancers 22:37 <@Dagmar> You could spam the "drop capsule" button and it would drop the same capsule, complete with it's contents, multiple tmes 22:37 <@Dagmar> lol 22:40 < LoTUs456> I like turtles 22:40 <@Dagmar> Now there's people seriously stuck becuase they're _WAY_ over the inventory cap 22:41 <@Dagmar> Like, 5000/2000. 22:41 <@Dagmar> ...and they can't do shit becuase their inventory is wildly past cap and they'll have to drop 3,000 items before they can even hack again 22:41 <@Dagmar> Those of us who were around for Codemas/Codemaggeddon are familiar with this problem 22:42 <@Dagmar> Catwoman's bitching about still being 300 over cap 22:42 <@Dagmar> lol 22:50 -!- LoTUs456 [~LoTUs456@wsip-70-165-26-239.pn.at.cox.net] has left #se2600 [] 22:51 <@Dagmar> Okay. Unexpected tech porn 22:51 <@Dagmar> http://oneplus.net/one 22:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: OnePlus One - OnePlus.net (at oneplus.net) 22:52 <@Dagmar> 64Gb internal for $350?!?! 22:52 <@Dagmar> I expected like $800 22:53 < eryc> its ok 22:53 <@Dagmar> The specs are way more than i'd expect for that price 22:53 <@Dagmar> 3100mAh battery is large. 1080p screen is beeeg 22:54 <@Dagmar> Hell it's even available in black 22:54 <@Dagmar> If they give me the chance to get one for $1 I'll jump on it 22:54 < eryc> i'm waiting on CM for the S5 22:59 < eryc> the power off alarm is intriguing 23:02 < eryc> and the triple mics 23:02 < eryc> and the front facing cam is cool 23:05 <@Dagmar> Gotta have at least two mics or you can't do noise cancellation 23:06 <@Dagmar> You'd really want three for a decent spearkerphone setup 23:06 <@Dagmar> GOTTA have a front-facing camera so people can do their selfies in front of moving buses 23:07 < eryc> yea but this one has 80deg fov 23:08 < eryc> the 4K video recording is nice too 23:10 <@Dagmar> That's _almost_ funny since you basically can't expect to watch that on anything but a MM heavy computer 23:10 <@Dagmar> ...but you can sure as fuck zoom in on bits of it 23:11 <@Dagmar> Between image stabilization and that res... sweet post-processing possibiliites 23:18 -!- sdodson [~Scott@twdp-174-109-245-131.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 23:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 23:22 <@Dagmar> I saw something kinda ugly on the streets earlier tonight 23:22 <@Dagmar> Private security near BCM has some kind of armored-looking segway thing 23:22 <@Dagmar> A three-wheel standing pedcart, with a front faring 23:22 <@Dagmar> Intensely ugly 23:35 <@sdodson> You were hoping he'd be pretty? 23:35 <@Dagmar> I was rather hoping no one would ever drive something that badly designed 23:39 <@aestetix> http://imgur.com/a/CqWOw#0 nsfw 23:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: Who DOESNT want to be a porn star? - Imgur (at imgur.com) 23:42 <@aestetix> I'm not sure what to call that 23:46 <@aestetix> Ok this actually wins 23:46 <@aestetix> http://imgur.com/7dgrxlK 23:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Unrealistically equipped baby doll with hitler stache finds its use in the kitchen. 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