--- Log opened Tue Apr 22 00:00:37 2014
00:18 <@aestetix> Shadow404: still intrested in playing portal 2?
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00:24 <@ShadowHntr> RangerZ1: that genuinely scares me.
00:24 < RangerZ1> ShadowHntr: google app engine being slow?
00:24 <@ShadowHntr> no
00:24 < RangerZ1> yeah i know, nightmare enducing ;)
00:24 <@ShadowHntr> powdered alcohol
00:25 < RangerZ1> ohh yeah
00:25 < RangerZ1> me and Dagmar have had discussions about this
00:25 < RangerZ1> about how its a _bad_ idea
00:25 < RangerZ1> and will result in snorting deaths
00:25 <@ShadowHntr> i spent almost an hour trying to figure out if it was a bad april fools joke or if they were genuinely serious
00:25 <@ShadowHntr> cause if it were an april fools joke
00:25 < RangerZ1> though... I'm kinda curious to see what people can do with it in 'ruffy-ing' food
00:25 <@ShadowHntr> i'm sorry, that's just something you should NEVER joke about
00:26 < RangerZ1> b/c thats actually the most _dangerous_ that I see
00:26 <@ShadowHntr> date rape
00:26 < RangerZ1> to 'non-dumbass' people
00:26 <@ShadowHntr> proliferation to kids
00:26 <@ShadowHntr> it getting into the illicit drug world
00:26 <@ShadowHntr> would make krokodil look downright friendly
00:27 <@ShadowHntr> at least i feel better knowing that i'm not some whacko who "is a bleeding heart (*P#$*&@
00:27 <@ShadowHntr> "
00:28 <@ShadowHntr> especially after just watching the latest episode of Cosmos
00:29 <@ShadowHntr> when they covered how people can easily doctor scientific data to serve their purpose
00:30 < RangerZ1> yeah the "heartbleed virus" newscast was fucking saddening
00:30 <@ShadowHntr> if this gets more media coverage, if people *don't* backlash against it, i'll have lost nearly *all* faith in the human race.
00:30 <@ShadowHntr> i missed an and in that statement
00:30 < RangerZ1> nah, b/c they don't understand what it is even now
00:30 <@ShadowHntr> but i'm sure you get my drift
00:31 < RangerZ1> yeah
00:31 < RangerZ1> i learned to read drunk many a years ago
00:31 < RangerZ1> obviously you were out snort'n at the bars
00:31 < RangerZ1> lol
00:31 <@ShadowHntr> at least you've restored my faith in the IT crowd in the southeast caring about people
00:31 <@ShadowHntr> nope never done *any* hard drugs beyond pot
00:32 < RangerZ1> snort'n the powdercol
00:32 < RangerZ1> lol
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> oh
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> :P
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> i would like to try smoking opium in an opium den only *once* before i die
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> just to say i've tried it
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> but nothing else
00:32 <@oddball> If the IT crowd in the Southeast didn't care about people, the death count of PN would by *much* higher.
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> just watching file footage covering coke, meth and heroin makes me actually faint.
00:33 <@ShadowHntr> that's not a joke.
00:33 <@ShadowHntr> it's been a conditioned response since elementary school
00:34 < RangerZ1> we're just lucky that PN has a Code of Conduct this year, stating that we're not allowed to allow thermonuclear war to start by accident
00:34 <@ShadowHntr> good.
00:34 < RangerZ1> was a close call last year
00:34 < RangerZ1> thank god for tick-tac-toe
00:34 < RangerZ1> ohhh
00:34 < RangerZ1> speaking of
00:34 <@ShadowHntr> and hopefully they've cracked down hard on underage drinking
00:34 <@ShadowHntr> i haven't been to a PN since 2009
00:35 < RangerZ1> i fucking made that reference in my cube at work, and none of the other grad students got it
00:35 < RangerZ1> i was like wtf
00:35 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
00:35 <@ShadowHntr> "Wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess?"
00:35 < RangerZ1> so i found out recently that there is a _sequel_ i've never seen
00:35 <@ShadowHntr> not even my housemate, who takes the fox news koolaid down hook, line and sinker didn't catch the reference
00:36 < RangerZ1> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865957/
00:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: WarGames: The Dead Code (Video 2008) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
00:36 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Yeah... it's probably best you keep it that way...
00:36 <@ShadowHntr> when i was trying to make civilized conversation about the Crimean situation.
00:36 <@ShadowHntr> s/didn't catch/caught
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00:36 <@ShadowHntr> i've seen that, but it's been a long time.
00:37 < RangerZ1> I'm guessing since 2008
00:37 < RangerZ1> lol
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> lol
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> nah
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> maybe 09
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> but close
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00:37 <@RangerZ> I just didn't fix nick
00:37 <@RangerZ> lol
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> lol no worries
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> i'm finally getting illumos to do my bidding a little better on ec2
00:38 <@RangerZ> really?
00:38 <@ShadowHntr> yeap
00:38 <@RangerZ> why?
00:38 <@ShadowHntr> cause i'm weird
00:38 <@ShadowHntr> i like a challenge
00:38 <@RangerZ> are you Shadow404's gimp for the night?
00:38 <@RangerZ> lol
00:38 <@ShadowHntr> and I'm a big fan of the late Sun Microsystems
00:38 <@ShadowHntr> pre-Oracle acquisition
00:38 <@ShadowHntr> and it works rather well
00:39 <@ShadowHntr> ZFS rocks
00:39 <@RangerZ> yeah
00:39 <@RangerZ> java 8 is pretty impressive
00:39 <@ShadowHntr> and my knowledge of Solaris has actually helped me out a lot getting my foot in the door several places
00:39 <@RangerZ> but it still needs shared objects
00:39 <@ShadowHntr> haven't had many problems with it
00:40 <@ShadowHntr> it works pretty much out of the box now
00:40 <@ShadowHntr> the only thing i've had difficulty is getting weechat to compile
00:40 <@ShadowHntr> and it's weird anyway
00:40 <@RangerZ> just call it 'weevchat' and the FBI will debug it for you
00:40 <@RangerZ> looking to insert backdoors
00:40 <@ShadowHntr> LOL :)
00:41 <@ShadowHntr> of course i'm the person who still wants to fuck around a little with IRIX
00:41 <@ShadowHntr> and still is a fan of the late DEC Alpha processor arch
00:41 <@RangerZ> the T1 from sun was pretty good too
00:41 <@RangerZ> for webservers
00:41 <@ShadowHntr> yeah the SPARC is a fantastic architecture, terribly underappreciated.
00:42 <@RangerZ> but crap for doing any double calcs
00:42 <@RangerZ> 1 unit per CPU
00:42 <@ShadowHntr> i don't do double calcs that often :P
00:42 <@RangerZ> ...for 8 cores
00:42 <@aestetix> vagina
00:42 <@RangerZ> the 2nd gen (t2000? lol) had 8 I think
00:42 <@ShadowHntr> if i need heavy duty number crunching, i can always call up an EC2 CG1.xlarge instance ;)
00:43 <@ShadowHntr> 1st gen had 8 cores, but limited FPUs
00:43 <@ShadowHntr> with the T2 arch they cleared up that bottleneck.
00:43 <@RangerZ> i mean 8 double units
00:44 <@ShadowHntr> i'm no compsci major, i don't really analyze architectures and CPUs by the number of ALUs or amount of floating precision they can do...
00:44 <@RangerZ> it was literally the arch we studied in my comp arch class
00:44 <@RangerZ> lol
00:44 <@ShadowHntr> oh wow
00:44 <@RangerZ> b/c it was brand new
00:44 <@ShadowHntr> i actually ordered hard copies of the AMD K7 data sheets from AMD when they were released in 1999-2000
00:44 <@ShadowHntr> bound copies they were free
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> when the AMD Athlon 64 was coming out
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> and Opteron
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> with the AMD64 arch
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> and i could understand a lot of it
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> but i am by no means an expert
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> but i liked what i could understand.
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> it was 7 volumes
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> i even ordered additional copies of the set for the MTSU CSCI department
00:46 <@RangerZ> MTSU has a CSCI dept?
00:46 <@ShadowHntr> hell yes they do!
00:46 <@ShadowHntr> :P
00:46 <@RangerZ> LOL, j/k
00:47 <@ShadowHntr> i was really annoyed they putting programming language courses such as Python so high up in the curriculum track that you pretty much had to take advanced data structures and arch to even satisfy prereqs to learn Python
00:47 <@ShadowHntr> :(
00:47 <@ShadowHntr> i'm still trying to wrap my head around some of the syntax of Python, but most of it clicks with me very well.
00:47 <@RangerZ> don't bother
00:48 <@RangerZ> python is a fucking hack of a language... there I said it
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> it's lists and dictionaries i'm getting hung up on
00:48 <@RangerZ> fuck duct typing
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> but i prefer it to things like Perl
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> talk about a nightmare
00:48 <@RangerZ> yes/no
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> regular expressions gave me nightmares
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> and that's not a figure of speech
00:48 <@Dagmar> Don't like bad perl?  Stop writing it, then.
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> i can't even learn it, it's scary enough! :P
00:49 <@ShadowHntr> but i have learned enough regex to do BASIC awk expressions
00:49 <@ShadowHntr> which has helped a *lot* as a sysadmin
00:49 <@RangerZ> the orielly perl book is actually _funny_
00:49 <@ShadowHntr> i have it
00:49 <@ShadowHntr> the camel book
00:49 <@RangerZ> yep
00:49 <@ShadowHntr> Tilghman let me have a copy
00:49 <@ShadowHntr> from his Linux University collection
00:49 <@RangerZ> Tilghman let you have a lot of things, but thats besides the point
00:50 <@RangerZ> lol
00:50 <@ShadowHntr> that's not the point
00:50 <@Dagmar> if ($scalar =~ /^(\S+)=(/S+)$/) { my ($key, value) = ($1, $2); } is actually pretty simple
00:50 <@ShadowHntr> i figured him out enough to keep him at half a mile distance for almost everything
00:50 <@ShadowHntr> lol
00:50 <@ShadowHntr> let's see
00:50 <@RangerZ> ShadowHntr: read this book http://www.amazon.com/Compilers-Principles-Techniques-Tools-Edition/dp/0321486811
00:50 <@RangerZ> that'll teach you reg-ex
00:51 <@RangerZ> to the point where you can write reg-ex interpreters
00:51 <@RangerZ> lol
00:51 <@Dagmar> NO.
00:51 <@Dagmar> That way lies madness.
00:51 <@RangerZ> I've read the first 4 chapters like ~20 times
00:51 <@RangerZ> i'm fina
00:51 <@RangerZ> I'm finally starting to get it
00:51 <@RangerZ> lol
00:52 <@ShadowHntr> for i in {1..12}; do echo "Port $i:"; /opt/3ware/tw_cli /c0/p$i show all; /usr/sbin/smartctl -A -i -d 3ware,$i /dev/twa0 | awk '/Model/ {print} /Serial/ {print} /^5|^187|^197|^198|^199/ {print} /FAILING/ {print}'; done
00:52 <@ShadowHntr> i think that was the macro i made to query 3ware controllers for disk information, SMART data and such
00:52 <@ShadowHntr> the awk expression isn't 100% accurate, but at the time i had it working
00:52 <@ShadowHntr> to save keystrokes
00:53 <@ShadowHntr> that's close to what i did
00:53 <@ShadowHntr> not exact, but close
00:53 <@RangerZ> great news
00:53 <@ShadowHntr> not bad for a beginner
00:53 <@RangerZ> I think I'm done with courses
00:53 <@RangerZ> forever...*crosses fingers*
00:53 <@ShadowHntr> dunno, i'm trying to take a course on Coursera in Python to boost my resume
00:53 <@ShadowHntr> i just finished a course in gamification
00:54 <@RangerZ> the coursera one?
00:54 <@ShadowHntr> yeah
00:54 <@RangerZ> how was it?
00:54 <@ShadowHntr> gamification or python
00:54 <@RangerZ> gamification
00:54 <@ShadowHntr> it was *fantastic*
00:54 <@RangerZ> i wanted to take it
00:54 <@northrup> gamification, really?
00:54 <@ShadowHntr> had a *lot* of fun, learned a lot
00:54 <@ShadowHntr> northrup: that was a bad joke ;)
00:54 <@ShadowHntr> but the concepts are really useful
00:54 <@RangerZ> but I was too busy making the code for the POSA and cloud services ones
00:55 <@ShadowHntr> these are the concepts for business applications
00:55 <@ShadowHntr> not implementing the software
00:55 <@ShadowHntr> but i had a great time
00:55 <@ShadowHntr> and it really turned employers heads when i listed it on my resume
00:56 <@RangerZ> lol
00:56 <@ShadowHntr> https://www.coursera.org/verify/V4F2B9GLB2
00:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Coursera.org (at www.coursera.org)
00:57 <@RangerZ> the android track would have been good to get too, if you were focused on dev
00:57 <@ShadowHntr> i like the MOOC concept, glad it's finally catching hold
00:57 <@RangerZ> but first one is over
00:57 <@ShadowHntr> well they'll hold another one, i'm sure of it
00:57 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not ready for that course yet, though
00:57 <@RangerZ> since we had (like a month ago) over 220,000 students enrolled in the 3 of them
00:57 <@RangerZ> yeah....
00:58 <@ShadowHntr> wait
00:58 <@ShadowHntr> did Vandy run the course?
00:58 <@ShadowHntr> oh wow
00:58 <@ShadowHntr> didn't realize this
00:58 <@ShadowHntr> cool! :)
00:58 <@RangerZ> https://www.coursera.org/course/posa
00:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: Coursera.org (at www.coursera.org)
00:59 <@RangerZ> yeah, starts next month
00:59 <@RangerZ> uses android, but teaches patterns that are usable in every language
00:59 <@RangerZ> other than perl
00:59 <@RangerZ> LOL
00:59 <@RangerZ> (actually perl too, but don't tell unix admins, lol)
01:00 <@northrup> Ah yes, Doug Schmidt's new claim to fame...
01:00 <@ShadowHntr> lol
01:00 <@ShadowHntr> well i'm nowhere near the skill needed to do proper system programming
01:00 <@RangerZ> you'd be surprised
01:00 <@ShadowHntr> but it's great to see these courses becoming so common and well received
01:00 <@ShadowHntr> :)
01:01 <@northrup> I agree!
01:01 <@RangerZ> the 'patterns' themselves are somewhat easy to learn... depending on how they are taught
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> i tried out the MITx intro to elec engineering course, and OH MAN, my head was spinning by the second lecture with all the calculus necessary :P
01:01 <@RangerZ> http://www.amazon.com/Design-Patterns-Elements-Reusable-Object-Oriented/dp/0201633612 this is the book that started the field basically
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> thanks =)
01:01 <@RangerZ> but it references everything in the use in a _text editor_ like Word 95
01:02 <@RangerZ> so things are abstract if you've never written a program like that
01:03 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF206E906175C7E07 is a decent explanation of a lot of them
01:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: Design Patterns Video Tutorial - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:03 <@RangerZ> though... I don't agree with is ordering at all
01:06 <@ShadowHntr> i did learn a lot of basic OOP concepts in AP comp sci in high school
01:06 <@ShadowHntr> i was in the course one of the last years it was taught in C++
01:06 <@RangerZ> then POSA is fine for you
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> we learned a little bit about inheritence, operator overloading, constructors, etc.
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> but i'm nowhere near a developer's level
01:07 <@RangerZ> ahh
01:07  * RangerZ comforts
01:07 <@RangerZ> its ok, everyone starts off as a network or sys admin, then evolves
01:07  * RangerZ ducks
01:07 <@RangerZ> lol
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> lol :)
01:08 <@ShadowHntr> hey i don't feel bad thinking that way
01:08 <@aestetix> evolves into what
01:08 <@RangerZ> a developer
01:08 <@aestetix> I started out as a dev and turned into a sys admin
01:09 <@RangerZ> dev-ops, or pure admin
01:09 <@aestetix> What is the difference (to you)?
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> well
01:09 <@RangerZ> you still have coding responsiblities
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> i'd like to potentially move into DevOps
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> i just learned about the field recently
01:10 <@aestetix> well I mean
01:10 <@RangerZ> its a buzz word
01:10 <@RangerZ> tbh
01:10 <@aestetix> if I need to code stuff, I can
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> i want to be able to support developers more closely
01:10 <@Dagmar> Why do a few things well when you can do a few more badly
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> be able to understand some of the code more closely
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> LOL Dagmar
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> :)
01:10 <@aestetix> But development is time consuming. I prefer having a system that works that I can "monitor" while I do other stuff
01:10 <@aestetix> haha
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> well anyhoo
01:10 <@aestetix> also
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> i'm gonna take a shower and head to bed
01:11 <@RangerZ> dev -ops = bridge the gap between CS people who don't know any unix at all, and Dagmar
01:11 <@ShadowHntr> good talking to you guys :)
01:11 <@aestetix> I'd prefer to put creative energy into things I have control over
01:11 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
01:11 <@RangerZ> b/c if you let them talk to each other.... blood
01:11 <@aestetix> haha
01:11 <@ShadowHntr> nite
01:11 <@RangerZ> night
01:12 <@aestetix> I'm a firm believer in not taking on more responsibility than is necessary
01:12 <@aestetix> then again, all the devs around here want to code all night long and never leave work
01:12 <@RangerZ> aestetix: some really interesting discussion about that on NPR the other day
01:12 <@aestetix> oh?
01:12 <@RangerZ> about how its suicidal
01:12 <@RangerZ> lol
01:13 <@RangerZ> only asperbergers(sp?) like zuckerberg actually can handle that
01:13 <@RangerZ> but thankfully a lot of top tier devs _are_
01:13 <@aestetix> well
01:13 <@aestetix> also, young aspies
01:14 <@aestetix> there's a reason we call places like twitter "coding mills"
01:15 <@RangerZ> yeah
01:15 <@RangerZ> part of me doesn't know how i'd like that
01:15 <@RangerZ> 6 figures... that would be nice
01:15 <@RangerZ> but 'ehh'
01:16 <@RangerZ> but 6 figures in san fran = 60~70kk in canton
01:16 <@RangerZ> Lol
01:16 <@aestetix> and you get to spend all day with the 66 year old stanford grad from iowa who thinks he's top shit
01:16 <@aestetix> 22
01:16 <@aestetix> well maybe 66, but mostly 22 :p
01:17 <@RangerZ> lol
01:28 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: so, ready for some more questions?
01:28 <@aestetix> Or is he avoiding me
01:53 <@aestetix> god
01:53 <@aestetix> I hate people who do poly badly
01:53 <@aestetix> on the plus side, it's fun to watch the drama break out
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02:02 <@aestetix> pretty colorful poly drama though
02:03 <@aestetix> why do people not understand that "going poly" with your relationship is not just flicking a switch
02:03 <@klixa-mobile> I hate polyism
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02:59 <@aestetix> god
02:59 <@aestetix> wtf is it with Windows and UUIDs
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08:13 <@Wilpig> aestetix: ?
08:13 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:13 <@Wilpig> I thought it handled them just fine.  windows loves some unique ids
08:13 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: you saw my email about the snmp walk?
08:13 <@Dolemite> I did
09:21 <@Dolemite> Bah.  The frog turds here are bitching about me leveling up a new account and are threatening to report me to Ingress Support.  Whatever.  I'm about done with it, anyway.
09:25 <@brimstone> damn those dirty greenbacks
09:27 <@Dolemite> The frogs up here are a bunch of pissing whiners, anyway
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09:48 <@Wilpig> another smurf with a second account.  for shame.
09:50 <@Dolemite> Technically 3 - me, son, and daughter.
09:50 <@Wilpig> son and daughter both outside the age rage of being able to agree to the terms of service
09:51 <@Dolemite> Yep, pretty much
09:51 <@Dolemite> So if they're going to be strict about enforcing those rules, so be it
09:51 <@Wilpig> we've had this discussion in nashville as well when one of the hardcore cheating smurfs was spawning new accounts for his newborn
09:51 <@Dolemite> Did Ingress make him close the extra accounts?
09:52 <@Dolemite> See here's the other part, though - I'm a Google Apps user, not Gmail.  Different Terms of Service.
09:52 <@Dolemite> There's no age restriction in creating an accoutn under Google Apps, because it's all administered by me.
09:53 <@Dolemite> The ironic thing, though, is that I'm only playing because I'm helping a frog at the lab to level up, because the local frogs won't help newbies at all.
10:05 <@Wilpig> the ToS aren't with google apps they're with ingress specifically
10:08 <@Wilpig> hrmm I'm not seeing the age restrition in the tos anymore.  interesting
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10:14 <@Shadow404> ...
10:14 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: Probably because of all the motherfuckers who said "Why can't my special little 7-year old play using his phone?"
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10:26 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: on the bright side  that included you!
10:26  * Shadow404 ducks
10:29 <@Dagmar> Just shut up and drink your coffee until your brain works again.
10:37 <@RangerZ> BREAKING NEWS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bksYFKqZ7mM
10:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: The KKKs Problem Is Their Bad Image, Says CNN - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:37 <@RangerZ> LOL....
10:42 <@RangerZ> god... CNN needs to decide if they are going to cover 'both sides' of the 'issue' of O2 being required for breathing
10:42 < nachoguy> http://i.imgur.com/dciSF9H.jpg
10:43  * brimstone checks to see if RangerZ's CNN really says FOX
10:43 <@RangerZ> cnn, gives 'both sides' of every story equal time/weight
10:43 <@RangerZ> including the KKK
10:43 <@brimstone> nachoguy: oh dear
10:44 < nachoguy> brimstone: is that incorrect?  I thought that was proper tourist clothing
10:46 <@RangerZ> we ordered that outfit for Wilpig for the next time he goes into NYC
10:46 <@brimstone> i've not seen that on MARTA yet
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11:04 <@Dagmar> Shortbus motherfuckers
11:04 <@Dagmar> Two smurf twats went into BCM to blow it up at midnight
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11:19 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: did they meet the hot park narc?
11:23 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING
11:23  * shapr hops around randomly
11:25 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Dunno, but considering I'm sick of twat monkeys pissing off the cops where we play, I jsut reported them both for trespassing
11:38 <@Dagmar> Good thing I already have a meeting scheduled with my supervisor for Friday
11:39 <@Dagmar> I almost hate to put him in this position, but clearly, it's time to be a dick again in order to get answers from this place.
11:40 <@Dagmar> ...and at this point, I'm going to be asking point-blank of anyone in HR I talk to: "So, who is it that is attempting to interfere in the process of paying me a proper amount?"
11:40 <@Wilpig> it's me!
11:40 <@Dagmar> Because someone is engaging in some illegal shit
11:41 <@Wilpig> trying to get neteng here to get me some snmp walks of devices now.  if this works, this software is pretty bad ass
11:42 <@Dagmar> They have finally, in theory, finished the skills reassessment and retitling of everyong
11:42 <@Dagmar> I got a "raise" because I was underpaid
11:42 <@Dagmar> In theory, it should dhave been based on length of employment and work experience and skills/qualifications
11:43 <@Dagmar> In reality, HR gave me the maximum-allowable without question bump that my current supervisor arranged
11:43 <@Dagmar> ...which was supposed to have happened at the start of March
11:43 <@Dagmar> ...and is *not* the amount they'd be paying me if they did what they said, becuase it is still not the mid-point for the salary range for this positions.
11:43 <@Dagmar> So... I'm going to be an annoying, bothersome dick to these people until I get _an answer_.
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12:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: .... that ben guy found a "academic cryptographer" who 'agreed' with him
12:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://plus.google.com/u/0/108799184931623330498/posts/9qvX8pxE763 , at least, he admitted he was wrong, which is kinda impressive, lol
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12:27 <@Wilpig> actual quote from yahoo! hr drone "we have trouble keeping people from spending all their time reading the code of ethics. so please don't do that at work, take several hours at home and read over that from time to time"
12:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
12:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> yahoo owns tumblr now right?
12:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, googled, lol
12:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> i mean... yahoo'd
12:44 <@Wilpig> yup
12:45 <@Wilpig> sitting through a mandatory presentation on yahoo!'s code of ethics
12:46 <@Wilpig> haha
12:46 <@Wilpig> just got a calendar invite
12:46 <@Wilpig> Invitation: Ping Pong & Beer Pong Tourney against Knewton
12:59 <@oddball> "take several hours at home and read them over..."  The fuck?
13:03 <@oddball> Now I'm curious if the code of ethics is really annoyingly restrictive, or they've decided to be very specific in creating a list of things you shall not do.
13:04 <@oddball> Also... wouldn't that be a work related duties that they're asking you to do off the clock?
13:06 <@Wilpig> it's all over the place
13:07 <@oddball> So... no list spelling out that you should not pop women's bras in the workplace?
13:08 <@brimstone> what about guy's bras?
13:10 <@brimstone> ... jerk
13:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> oddball: he's salary I'm guessing
13:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> being salary non-exempt was pretty nice when I had it, got guarenteed income, but also some more $ when I worked over 40 (which I always did) (retail/suncoast when it existed)
13:30 <@Mirage> Speaking of popping bras...I had to wear suspenders for a wedding I was in last weekend, so the wife got some payback.
13:31 <@NotLarry> Mirage: +1
13:31 <@Mirage> NotLarry: more like Sarah +30-40
13:32 <@Mirage> Every time I turned my back to her and she was within reach...
13:32 <@Corydon76-home> Yahoo having ethics at all is pretty surprising, actually, knowing some of their former employees
13:32 <@Mirage> NotLarry: Did you get my contact info soon enough to use?
13:38 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: Of course, that could explain the length of their code of ethics.
13:39 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: specifically allowing certain executives to be dicks without allowing the rest of the staff to be?  Yes.
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14:33 < nachoguy> Corydon76-home: what happened to Peaches?
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14:34 <@Corydon76-home> He will be admitted to the hospital shortly.
14:35 < nachoguy> well, good luck.  Hope he gets over whatever is ailing him
14:35 <@Wilpig> I'm goign with Corydon76-home was attempting to be a sushi chef and gave peaches the wrong part of the blowfish
14:36 <@Corydon76-home> Heh
14:37 <@Dolemite> ^--- That
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15:19 <@NotLarry> Mirage: don't recal
15:20 <@NotLarry> blowfish, ha, I'm 12
15:22 <@Dagmar> ...and what is this?
15:22 <@Dagmar> You forgot the "what is this" part
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15:46 <@Mirage> Higher power..we talking like Perl vs Bash or what?  I don't understand..
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15:50 <@benthemeek> Perl is the highest power
15:54 <@Shadow404> assembly
15:59 <@aestetix> I can send peaches a card with a few questions on it.
16:00 <@Shadow404> about ass play?
16:00 <@aestetix> Shadow404: no, that's the card YOU get when you're in the hospital
16:01 <@Shadow404> eh
16:01 <@Shadow404> most likely, yhat hospital stay will be this summer
16:02 <@Shadow404> racing in amatuer motorcycle league at atlanta road track
16:03 <@aestetix> man
16:03 <@aestetix> when you get knee deep into mysql
16:03 <@aestetix> there are some things that make you go "wait, really? god damnit"
16:17  * shapr hugs Shadow404
16:22  * klixa is doing srs computer stuffs...cloning a git repo, about to build app
16:25  * Wilpig calls klixa a nerd
16:42 <@shapr> nerd to ya momma!
16:49 <@klixa> i did it!
16:49 <@klixa> ok, i have a working fee textul now
16:49 <@klixa> free
16:52 <@klixa> ok...now to learn how to tie dye
16:54 <@Wilpig> wtf?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/4now8egisaffhg2/Screen%20Shot%202014-04-22%20at%204.54.11%20PM.png
16:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - Screen Shot 2014-04-22 at 4.54.11 PM.png (at www.dropbox.com)
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17:00 <@Wilpig> Dickie: I just bought you a domain
17:03 < dasunt> I want to beat the shit out of the dipstick that decided to tie the phone system web interface to a specific version of IE.
17:04 < dasunt> Why, dear gawd, why would you think that's a good idea?
17:06 <@NotLarry> Shadow404: when?
17:06 < dasunt> Now, I must find something that supports IE7.
17:08 <@NotLarry> fucking work is actually starting to feel like work.
17:08 <@Wilpig> Who wants to submit shit to my new site?  iruin.photos ?
17:09 <@Dickie> huh
17:09 <@Wilpig> gonna setup http://dickie.iruin.photos
17:09 <@shapr> whoa, nice site
17:10 <@Wilpig> it's gonna take the internets by storm
17:10 <@Wilpig> and now I am going the fuck home
17:11 <@Dickie> I do okay
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17:25 <@RangerZ> iruin.photos IS a real site.... which is the saddest part
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17:27 <@RangerZ> http://4.test-rest-ful-api.appspot.com/v1/stories/ ohh yeah... it'd be "impossible" to generate a REST webclient interface programmatically based on a data model
17:28 <@RangerZ> mind you... its not 100% complient by ANY means, no account auth, or anything
17:28 <@RangerZ> but still... create/read/delete/list (update is 'blah' to write, so we skipped it for now, lol)
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17:35 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Cuy8HIBW0
17:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: News: Netflix Increasing its Streaming Price - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:35 <@RangerZ> for 'new members only' for now
17:36 <@RangerZ> and [current will stay @ 7.99$ 'for a generous time period' ]
17:36 <@RangerZ> lol
17:36 <@RangerZ> I'm saying until december
17:38 <@aestetix> RangerZ: you know who isn't increasing their streaming prices?
17:38 <@aestetix> The Pirate Bay
17:38 <@RangerZ> yes they are
17:38 <@RangerZ> duh
17:39 <@RangerZ> they'll just give your IP to warner bros. and forward your letter demanding 23$ per film
17:39 <@RangerZ> lol
17:39 < oddball> Yup, the Pirate Bay is doubling their prices.
17:40 <@RangerZ> partnering with ComcastWarner, after merger
17:40 <@RangerZ> lol
17:48 <@opticron> RangerZ, we do it with asterisk
17:48 <@opticron> based on the swagger model
17:49 <@RangerZ> huh?
17:49 <@opticron> generating a REST interface programmatically
17:49 <@RangerZ> ohh
17:49 <@opticron> yeah...scrollback and such
17:49 <@RangerZ> i was being sarcastic, someone said it wasn't possible at nashville 2600 meeting a few months ago
17:50 <@opticron> yeah, I got the sarcasm
17:50 <@opticron> just offering another example :)
17:50 <@RangerZ> thanks, this one uses spring mvc framework
17:50 <@RangerZ> makes it easier
17:51 <@opticron> we're generating server side and client side bindings from the same data model
17:51 <@opticron> and documentation
17:52 <@opticron> it's fun
17:52 <@RangerZ> same
17:52 <@RangerZ> just need to finish up templatizing the server code
17:53 <@RangerZ> though part of me thinks that just sockets would be better for uploading files... but ehh
17:54 < nachoguy> tar +nc is all you need baby
17:54 <@RangerZ> nc?
17:54 < nachoguy> netcat
17:54 < nachoguy> it's the ultra ghetto way of moving files across a network
17:55 < nachoguy> you tar files and pipe the output to netcat (which you configure to send to a remote box).  On the remote box, you have netcat listen on a port and pipe the output to tar.
17:56 < eryc> i usually use ssh for that
17:57 < eryc> tar cf - . | ssh host (cd / && tar xf -)
17:58 < nachoguy> no crypto overhead with nc, and I tend to use it ona boxes that ssh either doesn't work, isn't listening, or may be compromised.  Otherwise, your solution is much nicer
17:58 < eryc> crypto is your friend
17:58 <@RangerZ> eryc: btw, did you finish the android coursera course?
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18:19 < eryc> RangerZ: i got burned out on the first one and stopped
18:20 < eryc> also i started playing with html5 apps which seems easier and more promising in the long run
18:29 <@RangerZ> i dunno
18:29 <@RangerZ> maybe
18:29 <@RangerZ> I'm not in the mood to talk about adam... lol
18:29 <@RangerZ> but you could do the 2nd and 3rd ones fine still probalby
18:30 <@RangerZ> since adam's class didn't stick to UI, like it was suppose to, it barely covered anything in depth
18:35 <@NotLarry> iruin.photos
18:44 <@Wilpig> eryc: you can write the code for my new site.
18:44 <@Wilpig> it needs to be all html5 goodness.  when you goto iruin.photos  there should be a button int he middle of the screen that just says "start"
18:45 < eryc> RangerZ: yea i didnt like the way the first class turned out
18:45 <@Wilpig> when you click start it grabs a picture from your camera and adds text like "I ruin photos"
18:45 <@Wilpig> done
18:45 < eryc> i was all happy learning UI elements and then he's like ok write this todo app
18:45 <@Wilpig> don't save them anywhere, give the user the option to save it to their pc.
18:46 <@RangerZ> next class isn't going to touch UI really, other than to 'see' what you've done, much more 'concepts' heavy, such as threading, concurrency, patterns, etc
18:47 <@RangerZ> so might be the area you want to go, or not completely
18:47 <@RangerZ> depends, lol
18:51 <@RangerZ> the patterns stuff will be great in all future coding, the systems stuff... not in web stuff
18:51 <@RangerZ> lol
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19:20 <@aestetix> vagina
19:20 <@aestetix> or penis
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19:26 <@aestetix> DefCon is $220 this year
19:26 <@aestetix> It seems like they raised the price
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20:01 < oddball> Hmmm... there's someone on Dragoncon's FB page that's apparently worried about attending a con where the con gets kicked out of the hotel before the end of the weekend due to what they saw/heard at MTAC.  I'm hoping they believe me when I say "won't happen unless a significant portion of the hotel is on fire."
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20:23 <@Dagmar> s/hotel/city/
20:24 <@Dagmar> ...and what the hell happened at MTAC?
20:29 < oddball> Oh... the person claims that someone spiked one of the water stations with ecstacy.
20:29 <@Dagmar> Uh-huh.  Is there more than one person who thinks this?
20:30 <@Dagmar> Preferably someone familiar with MDMA?
20:30 < oddball> Not that I've heard of.
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20:30 <@Dagmar> So, someone's just makin' shit up
20:30 <@oddball> probably
20:30 <@Dagmar> X isn't exactly cheap
20:31 <@Dagmar> Someone might spike a water station with booze, and there are maybe a few people twisted enough to roofie it, but X?  Not likely
20:31 <@oddball> I will say that I wouldn't be horribly suprised to hear that someone spiked something they were handing out with something at MTAC, but...
20:31 <@Dagmar> People aren't likely to spent several hundred dollars necessary to get an effective dosage
20:32 <@oddball> right.
20:32 <@Dagmar> ...and these water stations, were they big water coolers or something?
20:32 <@oddball> I wasn't at MTAC, but I'm guessing pitchers.
20:34 <@Dagmar> Judging from what I'm seeing on *4-chan* there was no spiking, just some idiots who couldn't handle their drugs and had to be taken to the hospital
20:34 <@Dagmar> 2 teens
20:34 <@oddball> this is my shocked face
20:34 <@Dagmar> Yeah
20:35 <@oddball> heh.... hell, Chattacon didn't get shut down and one of the attendees caused a nuclear bomb scare that involved the secret service one year.
20:35 <@Dagmar> lol
20:36 <@Dagmar> The only "shutdown" was the police telling the rave people to turn it off an hour early, apparently
20:36 <@Dagmar> http://boards.4chan.org/cgl/thread/7469371/middle-tennessee-anime-convention
20:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: /cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL (at boards.4chan.org)
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20:46 <@oddball> Dagmar: I can see how "multiple dumbasses at a rave OD" can turn into "oh shit, someone's spiked the water and people are OD'ing."
20:47 <@Dagmar> Yes, ignorance.
20:48 <@oddball> Oh, hey!  Someone in that thread is stating that Lucas was stealing money from the con!
20:48 <@oddball> well... "money laundering"
20:49 <@oddball> As far as him banging teenage girls... I don't know about that, but I can attest to him openly lusting after them, and I've heard a *lot* of rumors.
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20:55 <@Dagmar> Slashdot appears to have been slashdotted.
21:03 <@oddball> I noticed that.
21:04 <@oddball> Oh god.... Lucas is declaring this year's MTAC a failure on his FB and basically saying it will die without him.  Who does that sound like?
21:06 <@brimstone> Wilpig
21:08 <@Dagmar> hehe
21:09 <@Wilpig> brimstone: 
21:11 <@brimstone> sup boss/
21:11 <@Wilpig> you said wilpig, I said brimstone 
21:11 <@Wilpig> as for pn.  I still have yet to hear anyone say they've seen an actual contract
21:11 <@Wilpig> I have had someone quote me a room price of $137.50 a night though which is out of the price range of many folks
21:12 <@brimstone> :)
21:13 <@Wilpig> thems the facts, jack.
21:18 < eryc> Wilpig ruins christmas
21:19 <@Wilpig> and shits into easter baskets
21:32 <@oddball> Wilpig: Of course, I don't think anyone has found out what the code for the PN block is ye.t
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21:51 <@RangerZ> is slashdot down?
21:51 <@brimstone> no, you're on comcast
21:51 <@brimstone> i hear it's down for memphis users too
21:52 <@RangerZ> ok
21:52 <@RangerZ> b/c http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/slashdot.org.html
21:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Slashdot.org - Is Slashdot Down Right Now? (at www.isitdownrightnow.com)
21:52 <@RangerZ> says up too
21:52 <@RangerZ> but i can't ping or hit on browser
21:54 <@RangerZ> but its RSS works
21:54 <@RangerZ> i'm still getting that
21:54 < eryc> it works for me
21:57 <@RangerZ> yeah, rss.slashdot.org has 74.125.30.121 and I can hit it .... but slashdot.org 216.34.181.45 & www.slashdot.org 216.34.181.48 aren't reachable
21:58 <@oddball> Doing a tracroute, looks like Savvis is dropping the ball.
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21:59 <@RangerZ> yeah, I'm getting the same
22:00 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savvis looks to be a 'great' company
22:00 <@GateKeeper> Title: Savvis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
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22:32 < eryc> you guys must really feel left out of the internet right now without slashdot
22:36 <@Dagmar> It is an empty and barren place
22:37 < eryc> can you get to http://yro-beta.slashdot.org/
22:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters (at yro-beta.slashdot.org)
23:15 <@RangerZ> nadda, but GateKeeper can, which is funny
23:49 <@Corydon76-home> I see Tshirthell has aestetix in mind:  http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/i-wear-a-fedora-during-ass-play/
23:49 <@GateKeeper> Title: T-Shirt Hell :: Shirts :: I WEAR A FEDORA DURING ASS PLAY (at www.tshirthell.com)
23:49 <@shapr> I made music! https://plus.google.com/u/0/+ShaeErisson/posts/YTvhAGF3NHL
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