--- Log opened Mon Apr 21 00:00:36 2014
00:01 <@Dagmar> I was thinking more along the lines of tiny skulls
00:01 <@Dagmar> I managed to make it into and out of an Advance Auto Parts tonight only purchasing black anodized valve stem caps
00:01 <@oddball> heh
00:01 <@Dagmar> They sold a 6" "Zombie Response Squad" sticker, as well as three different types of skulls to go on the shift knob
00:02 <@Dagmar> I think I can do better myself on teh zombie response team thing
00:02 <@oddball> Dude... you want good stickers, go to a scifi con.
00:03 <@oddball> Or hell, with the "zombie response squad" or "zombie hunter" stuff, go to a gun show.
00:11 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
00:11 <@Dagmar> http://shop.warrocketindustrial.com/Zombie-Outbreak-Response-Vehicle-Badge-for-Grille-Mounting-zorvstud.htm
00:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Green Black on Chrome Zombie Outbreak Response Vehicle (at shop.warrocketindustrial.com)
00:12 < RangerZ> lol
00:12 <@Dagmar> Pretty sure after three days is up I'm going to be down $35
00:23 <@oddball> heh
00:27 <@Dagmar> http://www.ebay.com/itm/White-3D-LED-Laser-Car-Decal-Logo-Badge-Emblem-Sticker-Light-Auto-Lamp-For-Scion-/301148063041?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item461dd2c541&vxp=mtr
00:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: White 3D LED Laser Car Decal Logo Badge Emblem Sticker Light Auto Lamp for Scion | eBay (at www.ebay.com)
00:27 <@Dagmar> Make that $50
00:27 <@Dagmar> I'm going to kill the browser now
00:28 <@aestetix> ok so
00:28 <@aestetix> If Facebook makes so much money from data brokers
00:28 <@aestetix> why the hell do they keep pushing ads into the system
00:28 <@aestetix> besides to make more money
00:29 < RangerZ> hahaha
00:30 < RangerZ> aestetix: you answered it
00:30 < RangerZ> but honestly, its a PR thing
00:30 <@aestetix> So basically they are douchebags
00:30 < RangerZ> if they got rid of ads
00:30 < RangerZ> they would make people think about HOW they make money
00:30 < RangerZ> most people have no idea what a 'data broker' is
00:30 <@aestetix> fair enough
00:30 <@aestetix> indeed
00:30 <@aestetix> One of my new goals is working to change that
00:31 < RangerZ> well, there are companies who go around camera every car's plate, and track where everyone goes
00:31 < RangerZ> and if you think you know what kind of companies... you're wrong, unless you read the article on it
00:31 < RangerZ> repo companies, lol
00:31 < RangerZ> they have a DB of cars to pick up, and then just take any car they find
00:32 < RangerZ> apparently they are looking into how to build a DB of where to 'predict' where cars will be
00:32 < RangerZ> etc
00:35 < RangerZ> which is a little repo men http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1053424/ if i ever heard of it
00:35 < RangerZ> lol
00:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Repo Men (2010) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
00:41 <@Dagmar> Sometimes they take yer kids, too
00:46 <@Dagmar> http://www.newschannel5.com/story/25290394/repo-man-takes-car-with-sleeping-4-year-old-inside
00:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Repo Man Takes Car With Sleeping 4-Year-Old Inside - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.newschannel5.com)
00:47 <@Dagmar> TL;DR: Redneck woman leaves sleeping toddler under a blanket alone in the car.  Car is repo'd with child inside.  Redneck woman angry repo man didn't search car for misplaced children
00:56 < RangerZ> ...
01:09 <@aestetix> is that a remake of Repo Man?
01:15 < NotLarry_> Wilpig: ping
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01:24 <@NotLarry> anyone know about cfd?
02:07 < RangerZ> aestetix: no, that is where 'repo-men' go and collect organs, that you aren't able to make payment on anymore
02:08 < RangerZ> which cfd?
02:08 < RangerZ> comp. fluid dynamics?
02:08 < RangerZ> or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_for_difference
02:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: Contract for difference - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
02:09 < RangerZ> NotLarry: ?
02:09 <@aestetix> woohoo
02:09 <@aestetix> http://x.hope.net/index.html
02:09 <@GateKeeper> Title: [HOPE X] Welcome to Hackers On Planet Earth! (at x.hope.net)
02:10 < RangerZ> sadly, i know _of_ both, and more about the fluid dynamics (the numerical parts of it, not the real calculus parts), than the contract version
02:10 < RangerZ> still odd that you need to click the picture
02:20 <@aestetix> it's so much better than the pirate page
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02:24 < RangerZ> must have taken months to make
02:24 < RangerZ> 100s of man hours
02:24 < RangerZ> easily
02:24 < RangerZ> b/c no con page can be made on a test server quickly
02:25  * RangerZ tries to stop being passive aggressive
02:25  * RangerZ realizes it doesn't work so well
02:25 < RangerZ> lol
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02:30 <@aestetix> RangerZ: what?
02:30 < RangerZ> the fact that PN doesn't have a page
02:30 <@aestetix> oh heh
02:30 <@aestetix> actually
02:30 <@aestetix> you do NOT want to know the drama we had to go through to get this page
02:30 < RangerZ> drama != actual effort
02:30 <@aestetix> well the thing is
02:31 <@aestetix> speaking for myself, I couldn't design my way out of a paper box
02:31 < RangerZ> if I still had a hosting plan, I would have made a fucking site myself already, based it off of wordpress, taken a weekend and found a good combo of themes/plugins, and been done with it...
02:31 <@aestetix> and every designer I've dealt with, if there isn't something immediately in it for them, either demands payment or does nothing
02:31 <@aestetix> And I appreciate paying designers, because they don't make as much as tech workers
02:32 <@aestetix> Except that that then creates an issue where others are like "hey why is that guy getting paid"
02:32 <@aestetix> the designer's response is usually "because I want to pay rent"
02:32 < RangerZ> http://csis.ysu.edu/~mwalker/wp/
02:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: YSU ACM (at csis.ysu.edu)
02:32 <@aestetix> not that I'm venting or anything
02:32 < RangerZ> WP site that is on read only sql instance , and all that
02:33 < RangerZ> so no new content can be made, etc
02:33 <@aestetix> oh it's also fun when your designers just go silent and then when you ask them what's up they accuse you of harassing them
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02:34 < RangerZ> but that theme is decent enough to look 'semi-professional' and easy enough to make 'pages' that it allows you to just put up content
02:34 < RangerZ> its what I used for my personal CV site also, and I got good comments on it when it was up. I basically use it for everything, as a starting point, LOL
02:35 < RangerZ> websites are the same to me as IDEs, they should just work, and not be a hassle to install
02:35 < RangerZ> LOL
02:35 < RangerZ> SO i can get to making the crap I need to make (application, app, test code, or webpage) hehe
02:36 <@aestetix> which?
02:36 <@aestetix> yours?
02:36 < RangerZ> huh?
02:36 <@aestetix> what theme are you talking abotu
02:36 <@aestetix> I haven't looked at the site you linked yet
02:37 < RangerZ> its a "common" theme, but has lots of variations, you can pick for color choice
02:37 < RangerZ> and move around links, etc
02:37 <@aestetix> yeah ok
02:37 <@aestetix> I'm a big fan of wordpress
02:38 <@aestetix> But I think it depends on what you think is the purpose of a website
02:38 <@aestetix> Is it just a focus point for information, or does it also represent the image of the event?
02:38 < RangerZ> i know 2 major companies that do 20k+ _themes_, etc of joomla and wordpress for big companies
02:38 < RangerZ> for video games, sports teams, etc
02:39 < RangerZ> its ridiculous how much time/effort they put into it, but it gets them paid... so have at it , lol
02:39 < RangerZ> 20k$+ themes*
02:40 <@aestetix> jesus
02:40 <@aestetix> then again
02:40 <@aestetix> I'm not skilled in design, so that number just sounds big to me
02:40 <@aestetix> if there's a team working on them, I could see that being a reasonable number
02:40 < RangerZ> it gives the company buying it the same back-end that they are used to, and allows them to easily put up new content/etc
02:40 <@aestetix> due to the whole paying rent thing
02:41 < RangerZ> plus at a certain point, if you don't charge that much for big companies, they don't think you're worth it
02:42 < RangerZ> lol
02:42 <@aestetix> yep
02:42 <@aestetix> well also
02:42 <@aestetix> $20k means something very different to a 22 year old living in a 1br, and a guy with a family of three and a mortgage
02:42 < RangerZ> friend in Kent had to up his hourly rate from 25$/hr to 150$/hr so that people would hire him, and then he'd give them 15% discounts, etc
02:42 <@klixa-mobile> I have to live in Sonoma county :/
02:43 < RangerZ> for basic cable-monkey work he was doing installing shit
02:43 < RangerZ> klixa-mobile: just move in with aestetix
02:43 <@aestetix> yeah!
02:44 <@klixa-mobile> hmmmm
02:44 <@aestetix> klixa-mobile: I have board games
02:44 <@aestetix> And cats
02:44 <@klixa-mobile> Lol
02:45 <@klixa-mobile> Do the cats play board games
02:45 < RangerZ> only when he's gone
02:45 < RangerZ> duh
02:47 <@klixa-mobile> Oh
02:48 <@klixa-mobile> But yeah fremont office has new manager...so we got put into Santa Rosa office
02:49 <@klixa-mobile> It's so different up here than in the bay...more rural
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03:15 < RangerZ> ok... thats odd
03:15 < RangerZ> i have a micro-usb that will work for charging... but not for debugging
03:16 < RangerZ> wonder if data wire in it got crimped or something...
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05:19 <@aestetix> heh
07:18 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:30 < RangerZ> morning be0tch and h0e!
07:32 <@Dolemite> Oh, an upgrade!  I'm now both!
07:34 < RangerZ> at least you haven't gotten to "crazy bitch"
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09:07 <@Wilpig> damnit.  rattle leaves as I was about to wish him a happy birfday
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09:21 <@shapr> Goood morning peeps!
09:21 <@Wilpig> happy birfday rattle
09:22 <@rattle> Thanks!
10:06 <@Mirage> Wilpig: How often do you play D3?  Never caught you non-idle over the weekend to see if you wanted to do some rift farming or anything.
10:06 <@Wilpig> I played saturday night and again sunday night
10:06 <@Wilpig> I slept all day friday
10:07 <@shapr> mmm, sleep
10:07 <@Mirage> I'm up to running T1 pretty consistently.  Gotten a few plans for armor sets and weapons that I've been trying to get mats for.
10:07 <@Wilpig> same
10:07 <@Wilpig> I got thunderfury yesterday and now i'm shocking the piss out of everythign on the screen
10:07 <@Mirage> I was playing until almost 3am this morning..mostly because I took a nap yesterday eve.
10:08 <@Mirage> I still like using the L70 version of this:  http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/pig-sticker
10:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: Pig Sticker - Game Guide - Diablo III (at us.battle.net)
10:09 <@Mirage> It squeals like a pig when you hit stuff..=)
10:10 <@Mirage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggsg0GAlol0
10:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: Diablo III Patch 2.0.3 Pig Squeal Weapon Pig Sticker Barbarian - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:14 <@Wilpig> I think zero looted that last night
10:16 <@Mirage> I hit a cursed chest in Whimsyshire that spawned a pack of elite cows..   I had the volume turned down, so I dunno if they "moo'd" or not.
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11:29 <@shapr> wheeee
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14:39 <@Mirage> Saw this Vietnamese place earlier..might have to go check it out just going by the name.  http://www.phoquehuong.com/
14:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: Pho Que Huong (at www.phoquehuong.com)
14:39 <@Mirage> Hopefully the food is better than the name and website.
14:39 <@Wilpig> hahah http://explosm.net/comics/3533/
14:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cyanide & Happiness #3533 - Explosm.net (at explosm.net)
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15:22 <@aestetix> penis
15:22  * Wilpig punches aestetix 
15:23 <@aestetix> Wilpig: not feeling it?
15:23 <@Wilpig> I just had to unwind 30' of fiber off the post in the middle of a vertical cable management cabinet
15:24 <@Wilpig> some dickweed treated the post like a spool....
15:36 <@aestetix> on an unrelated note
15:36 <@aestetix> it appears that YC has now become political
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15:46 <@shapr> vaina
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16:56 <@aestetix> today reminds me why I stopped reading twitter as much
16:59 <@NotLarry> http://i.imgur.com/kh6B9rl.jpg
16:59 <@brimstone> sounds like you're following the wrong people
17:03 <@aestetix> https://medium.com/p/d96f431f4e8e
17:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: Facts Conveniently Withheld  — Medium (at medium.com)
17:03 <@aestetix> brimstone: yes I just unfollowed someone over it
17:10 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: Wow
17:10 <@Mirage> I'm sure that totally crushed them\
17:10 <@aestetix> lol
17:12 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: I hope youre "wow" was about the link.
17:12 <@Corydon76-home> Yep
17:13 <@aestetix> Moral of the story: don't date coworkers.
17:13 <@Wilpig> that sounds like a shitty moral
17:13 <@aestetix> well how about
17:13 <@aestetix> don't shit where you eat
17:15 <@Wilpig> Have you ever had a sammich while siting on the shitter?  it's pretty magical
17:15 <@aestetix> hahaha
17:15 <@opticron> that's different, it's eating where you shit
17:15 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: what's really problematic is that this incident distracts away from actual problems that could be addressed.
17:16 <@shapr> YOW
17:16 <@Wilpig> aestetix: I think most sane people caught onto the fact she was blowing things out of the water when they hit the bit about the hula hooping
17:16 <@Wilpig> That was the point where I just said fuck it.  bitch be crazy, nothing to see here
17:16 <@aestetix> Like, I could totally see someone who is actually dealing with harassment issues decide not to do anything because of this.
17:17 <@aestetix> Or where someone who is dealing with actual harassment gets ignored.
17:18 <@Wilpig> i'm outta here.  tired pig is tired.  for all of your amusement I present you the product of dicknose asshat.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/gvjmz7on46ify13/2014-04-21%2016.13.07.jpg
17:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2014-04-21 16.13.07.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
17:18 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: did you see that the co-founder has now resigned as a result?
17:18 <@aestetix> yeah
17:18 <@Wilpig> if that view wasn't clear enough.  here's the top.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/yhsqs9ms7gs3gr4/2014-04-21%2016.13.02.jpg
17:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2014-04-21 16.13.02.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
17:18 <@aestetix> I mean, there are a few things that I saw that are legally bad. Like if his wife actually had access to company data, etc
17:19 <@aestetix> I'm not quite sure what all these fauxminists want though. Do they want github to close down shop over this?
17:19 <@aestetix> Or to put out a statement saying "she was right"?
17:20 <@Corydon76-home> The latter
17:20 <@aestetix> Even though the evidence in that other link says otherwise.
17:20 <@aestetix> Well, "evidence"
17:20 <@Corydon76-home> Once an allegation has been made, it's true in their eyes, and no investigation can possibly find otherwise
17:20 <@aestetix> They badly want it to be true.
17:20 <@Corydon76-home> and if an investigation finds otherwise, then in their eyes, the investigation was tainted from the start
17:21 <@Corydon76-home> It's a witch hunt, in other words
17:21 <@aestetix> Yep.
17:22 <@Corydon76-home> It further clarifies for me that it's most advisable for two people in the same company not to be fucking.
17:22 <@aestetix> Yep.
17:22 <@aestetix> The one big drama at my workplace a year or so ago was because coworkers were fucking.
17:23 <@Corydon76-home> "If you'd like to date a coworker, one of you must resign."
17:23 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: what's also fun is how people become impromptu lawyers by finding a piece of wording and crafting an interpretation to fit what they want.
17:24 <@Corydon76-home> "Failure to abide by this will result in the termination of both employees."
17:24 <@aestetix> I'm in favor of that.
17:27 <@Corydon76-home> I'm in agreement with one thing.  Horvath leaving Github was the best decision for her to make.
17:28 <@aestetix> haha
17:28 <@aestetix> Yep
17:28 <@Corydon76-home> Because if she didn't resign, she probably would have been fired.
17:28 <@aestetix> I thought she was fired.
17:29 <@aestetix> ok maybe not
17:30 <@Corydon76-home> There's a financial benefit to the company if she resigns, because she gets no severance if she leaves of her own accord
17:37 <@aestetix> I wonder why github decided to say someothing publicly about this
17:38 <@aestetix> So this is interesting. Twitter has kind of turned into reputation gambling.
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18:02 <@aestetix> btw
18:03 <@aestetix> http://x.hope.net/
18:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: [HOPE X] Welcome to Hackers On Planet Earth! (at x.hope.net)
18:03 <@aestetix> much better design
18:04 <@brimstone> aww, i miss the pirate map
18:04 <@aestetix> lol
18:04 <@aestetix> brimstone: that makes one of us
18:05 <@brimstone> really, i just hate change.
18:06  * Wilpig paints brimstone black
18:07  * brimstone explodes
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18:25 <@aestetix> GOD DANIT
18:25 <@aestetix> people are making the github thing about nyms now
18:26 <@aestetix> "Please note that GitHub employee(s) are *anonymously* posting on Medium about @nrrrdcore, & *whatever* they say, that is *inherently* F'd Up"
18:26 <@NotLarry> Corydon76-home: I totally missread your comment as "everyone must be fucking their coworkers"
18:26 <@NotLarry> Corydon76-home: Might just be where I work, that it feels like that.
18:27 <@Wilpig> NotLarry: given the chance I would very much like to jump several of mine
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19:10 <@Wilpig> NotLarry: I found how you're gonna spend your night tonight.  https://www.youtube.com/user/Fysikshow
19:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: Fysikshow - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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19:40 < eryc> what's a vee string
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20:33 <@brimstone> does anyone know an i2 speedtest.net site?
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20:56 < RangerZ1> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/04/22/001239/intentional-backdoor-in-consumer-routers-found
20:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Intentional Backdoor In Consumer Routers Found - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org)
20:56 < RangerZ1> lol
20:56 < RangerZ1> ....
21:00 <@northrup> brimstone: I don't think what you're asking for exists...
21:01 <@northrup> brimstone: for an overview you can check Atlas: http://atlas.grnoc.iu.edu/atlas.cgi?map_id=302
21:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: Internet2 TR-CPS Transport Net RealTime Atlas | Global Research Network Operations Center (at atlas.grnoc.iu.edu)
21:01 <@brimstone> thanks northrup
21:02 <@Wilpig> brimstone: speedtest.vanderbilt.edu  might work.  vandy is an i2 site but pretty sure the speedtest isn't directly connected to it
21:03 <@northrup> Wilpig: it would depend on his disposition to speedtest.v.e if his traffic would route over i2
21:03 <@northrup> brimstone: Where are you coming from?
21:03 <@brimstone> gatech
21:04 <@brimstone> Wilpig: 613Mbps down, 21.84 Mbps up
21:04 <@brimstone> lol
21:05 <@northrup> LOL
21:07 < RangerZ1> 57.32 mbps/9.69 mbps
21:07 < RangerZ1> b/c...f uck you give us money from comcast
21:11 <@northrup> 18.3 Mbps / 3.54 Mbps.... not bad for the Highway 100 Brewhouse
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21:11 <@Wilpig> brimstone: if you got 600Mb/s then that was definitely i2
21:11 <@Wilpig> iirc there is a direct link between vandy and gatech
21:12 <@brimstone> mhmm
21:12 <@northrup> Wilpig: There is a direct link, delivered by SoX (Southern Crossroads)
21:13 < RangerZ1> I think its boston , where the I2 is a cable you can 'touch' with your hand on a bridge
21:14 <@brimstone> neat
21:14 < RangerZ1> b/c 'who would put that out of reach ' or anything
21:15 <@northrup> Prior to the Hill Center redesign and the building of the Commons, it used to be a cable you could touch on a pole on 18th Ave as well.
21:17 <@brimstone> the -PN option to nmap stands for PhreakNic
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21:18 < RangerZ1> really?
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21:20 <@brimstone> sure, look it up
21:22 <@Bahhumbug> Heh
21:22 <@aestetix> http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2014/04/21/conviction-upheld-in-sex-act-with-bart-seat/
21:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Conviction upheld in sex act with BART seat - Crime Scene (at blog.sfgate.com)
21:23 < RangerZ1> huh, brimstone, you are right, found it in the nmap documentation
21:48 <@Dagmar> I don't even know why they'd contest that
21:48 <@Dagmar> It's not like they could argue that it was consensual
21:48 <@ShadowHntr> well i'll say something about trazodone
21:49 <@ShadowHntr> it doesn't give me night terrors like thorazine did
21:49 <@ShadowHntr> but it gives me some *very* original dreams... lol :)
21:49 <@ShadowHntr> aestetix: i don't know if i want to even read that. :P
21:50 <@Dagmar> It's a locely story about a man, a train seat, and the misunderstood love they shared.
21:50 <@Dagmar> s/locely/lovely
21:51 <@ShadowHntr> TMI
21:51 <@ShadowHntr> i have enough trouble on the Metro. ;)
21:51 <@northrup> lovely - hadn't been taking his "anti-psychotic" meds... and binging on crack cocaine...
21:51 <@ShadowHntr> who, me?
21:51 <@northrup> that is a cocktail for sucess...
21:51 <@northrup> success even
21:52 <@ShadowHntr> nah, trazodone is given to me to help me sleep by a pain specialist
21:52 <@ShadowHntr> in addition to a clonidine transdermal patch
21:52 <@northrup> ShadowHntr: not you, heh... the dude that was arrested for making sweet love with the BART seat.
21:52 <@ShadowHntr> if i didn't have a prescription deductible on my insurance
21:52 <@ShadowHntr> i'd be taking Rozerem
21:52 <@ShadowHntr> oh
21:53 <@northrup> I don't know about the rest of you, but my insurance continues to get shitter every year...
21:53 <@northrup> ShadowHntr: glad you're able to find some relief
21:53 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: every fucked a train seat?
21:53 <@aestetix> ever*
21:54 <@ShadowHntr> northrup: not sure if it'll happen right away. I found out the root cause of my termination from Amazon last year is due to a circadian rhythm sleep disorder that can be a recognized disability.
21:54 <@ShadowHntr> Whenever I get health insurance again that has proper prescription coverage, maybe I'll be able to get it fully addressed.
21:54 <@aestetix> ShadowHntr: which one? DSPS?
21:54 <@ShadowHntr> yes
21:54 <@ShadowHntr> exactly
21:55 <@aestetix> I have a variant of that too
21:55 <@ShadowHntr> delayed sleep phase disorder
21:55 <@aestetix> Have you been diagnosed?
21:55 <@aestetix> I'm kind of lucky because Stanford has a sleep clinic that deals with it
21:55 <@ShadowHntr> Not officially. I saw my neurologist, who prescribed me Rozerem and wants me to come back for maybe a sleep study or actigraphy
21:55 <@ShadowHntr> oh cool...
21:55 <@aestetix> I think a lot of places have yet to even recognize it though
21:55 <@Dagmar> Dude, they prescrible modafinil for that?
21:55 <@ShadowHntr> yeah, well fortunately my doctor has heard of it
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> Dagmar: I used to be prescribed it for ADHD
21:56 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I can think of worse things to be asked to take
21:56 <@aestetix> Oh wow interesting. I'd love to get a modafinil prescription for it
21:56 <@Dagmar> Hell I was thinking about ordering some for giggle
21:56 <@aestetix> Normally they only prescibe modafinil for narcolepsy?
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> I still have some modafinil on hand luckily
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> no
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> shift work sleep disorder
21:56 <@aestetix> well fuck em
21:56 <@aestetix> me*
21:56 <@aestetix> the thing is, I'm so bonky that it's hard for me to do a sleep study :p
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> the only downside is that my insurance requires prior approval for modafinil
21:57 <@ShadowHntr> even though it's generic
21:57 <@ShadowHntr> and my psychiatrist is happy to prescribe it
21:57 <@Dagmar> shttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/eliza-sankargorton/the-drug-from-limitless-is-available-on-your-college-campus_b_4704689.html
21:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Drug From Limitless Is Available for Purchase on Your College Campus | Eliza Sankar-Gorton (at www.huffingtonpost.com)
21:57 <@Dagmar> :D
21:57 <@ShadowHntr> i really don't like these individual health insurance policies, at least it beats being uninsured.
21:58 <@ShadowHntr> I'm actually legitimately prescribed Adderall.
21:58 <@ShadowHntr> used to be on Vyvanse
21:59 <@ShadowHntr> but if I can get Provigil again, and if it'll help me fight two birds with one stone i'll take it over anything else for ADHD
21:59 <@ShadowHntr> i have a slight suspicion me having to titrate my dosage of Adderall is a secondary trigger for my abdominal pain episodes, I won't know until I get really good treatment for the damn things. :P
21:59 <@aestetix> http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/delegated-strings
21:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: Delegated Strings | ICANN New gTLDs (at newgtlds.icann.org)
22:00 <@brimstone> too damn many
22:00 <@brimstone> pretty.PICTURES
22:00 <@ShadowHntr> maybe i should look into clinical trials for modafinil
22:00 <@brimstone> .COOKING
22:00 <@aestetix> what is a .frogan
22:00 <@brimstone> .PINK
22:00 <@brimstone> .SINGLES
22:00 <@Dagmar> Fucking bitch stole my .foo
22:00 <@brimstone> .MONEY is more like it
22:00 <@northrup> brimstone: that just screams a porn site
22:01 <@northrup> ILikeIt.pink
22:01 <@northrup> ha
22:01 <@brimstone> no, those are all .xxx now
22:01 <@Dagmar> Now we'll see how well ICANN will enforce the "no lookalikes" rule for i18n'd TLDs
22:01 <@northrup> big.toys
22:02 <@northrup> there is a .vodka?
22:02 <@northrup> WTF?!
22:02 <@Dagmar> brimstone: Yes, well, none of that .xxx stuff is _Free_ porn so no one cares about it
22:03 <@northrup> So - what the hell with the glut of net gTLDs?
22:03 <@northrup> did I miss something?
22:04 <@brimstone> ICANN wanted more money
22:04 <@aestetix> Mitt Romney bought ICANN
22:05 <@ShadowHntr> .PUB ! WAY TO GO !
22:05 <@ShadowHntr> :)
22:05 <@northrup> Dude, .Neustar?! Who the fuck would use that OTHER than the Neustar corp?
22:06 <@brimstone> they're kinda big name in DNS huh?
22:06 <@ShadowHntr> one sponsored by the republican national committee? does that mean that they'll agree to stop putting up fake pages for other people?
22:07 <@northrup> Neustar admins the NANPA, the North American Number Plan for how phone number prefixes are allocated and used.
22:07 <@northrup> ShadowHntr: one can ONLY hope, but I doubt it
22:07 <@ShadowHntr> .SEXY LOL
22:07 <@Shadow404> they must hate us
22:07 <@ShadowHntr> northrup: yeah probably not
22:07 <@Shadow404> were buying up huge lots for telematics in cars
22:09 <@northrup> who the hell wants to type ".ENGINEERING"
22:09 <@Dagmar> My my look at all the gamblers who could scrounge some LLC paperwork
22:09 <@aestetix> I think someothing that bugs me about this
22:09 <@aestetix> engineers care about efficiency
22:09 <@aestetix> And some of these domains are the opposite of that
22:10 <@Dagmar> This is not about efficiency
22:10 <@Dagmar> This is about pillaging the dot.  The last gold rush left.
22:10 <@aestetix> well there is taht
22:10 <@aestetix> I'd totally be pillaging it if I had $200,000 to spare
22:10 <@Dagmar> It's astonishing there's no .bitcoin
22:10 <@northrup> Dagmar: I agree
22:10 <@aestetix> Doesn't ICANN have to approve all these, though?
22:11 <@aestetix> I still wanna know what frogans means
22:11 <@northrup> Yep, they're already approved
22:11 <@Dagmar> "Do you have large bags of money?"
22:11 <@Dagmar> "Yes."
22:11 <@aestetix> I wonder if the approval process is anything beyond waiting for the check to clear
22:11 <@Dagmar> "Can you spell the string you want a TLD for?"
22:11 <@Dagmar> "Yes."
22:11 <@northrup> aestetix: I really doubt it
22:11 <@Dagmar> "APPROVED.  U GIEF MUNNY NAO!"
22:12 <@Dagmar> afaik the approval process was entirely a demonstration of financial fitness
22:13 <@aestetix> Dagmar: you should register .sexism and .harassment
22:13 <@northrup> .zone, there's no way that's going to cause some fucking head scratching
22:13 <@Dagmar> I'm still pissed about .foo
22:13 <@aestetix> oh man
22:13 <@Dagmar> Looks like that one just won't resolve here.  EVER
22:13 <@northrup> wonder what the overlap of people is that register for both a .wang and a .pink are?
22:13 <@aestetix> friend.zone
22:14 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Precisely
22:14 <@Dagmar> in.the.zone, inter.zone
22:14 <@aestetix> ama.zone
22:14 <@Dagmar> Like all good marketing terms, it's semantic slobber
22:14 <@Dagmar> ...so of COURSE it has to be a top-level domain
22:15 <@northrup> I don't understand how .amazon got turned down?
22:15 <@northrup> when these other gTLDs are clearly company focused
22:15 <@Dagmar> Because the rain forest called and said "no"
22:15 <@Dagmar> Not even joking
22:16 <@northrup> LOL, that hasn't ever stopped us from shitting all over people before i.e. "no, you must have use a country code, only we get the .com"
22:16 <@Dagmar> THe country codes were already delegated and therefore not our problem
22:17 <@aestetix> http://imgur.com/a/7Mh9I
22:17 <@GateKeeper> Title: This is why you brush your teeth - Imgur (at imgur.com)
22:17 <@Dagmar> But literally some coalition of country groups interested in preserving the identity of the Amazon Rain Forest basically disagreed that Amazon should get .Amazon and Bezos isn't a dick
22:18 <@northrup> aestetix: FUCK
22:18 <@Dagmar> You *need* to mark things that are above NSFW-1, man
22:18 <@aestetix> northrup: stop eating frosting
22:19 <@Wilpig> that isn't a nsfw.  that's wtf?!
22:19 <@Dagmar> No that's a NSFW-3 at least
22:19 <@northrup> Dagmar: agreed... which makes me wonder why enormus dick Larry Ellison hasn't rolled out .oracle yet
22:20 <@northrup> aestetix: who goes in with a mouth like that under the banner of "it hurts when I eat frosting" ?!
22:20 <@Dagmar> Because he already has a third of the world by the balls over service contract
22:20 <@Dagmar> Oracle doesn't need to try pillaging the TLD-space
22:21 <@northrup> well, yeah - but he's also the kind that will hold you castrato while at the same time sticking his dick in *your* face
22:21 <@Dagmar> If they want revenues to go up, they can just increase licencing costs by 5%
22:21 <@Dagmar> It's not like any of their customers will say, "Okay, *now* that's just too expensive."
22:21 <@northrup> don't I know it... we're an Oracle shop...
22:22 <@Dagmar> I'm sorry
22:22 <@northrup> though not really because we actualy NEED any propritary advantage that they're bringing to the table, we COULD use PostgreSQL...
22:22 <@aestetix> What benefits does oracle offer over mysql/postgres?
22:22 <@Dagmar> Higher RAM requirements
22:22 <@aestetix> lol
22:22 <@Dagmar> More gnomic architecture, so greater expenditure in training and consulting
22:22 <@northrup> but all the glossy magazine readers that get sucked off at hosted golf retreats insist that Oracle it is
22:23 <@Dagmar> Fucking slowness
22:23 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: you have any idea who would be in charge of the vandy itunes account?
22:23 <@Dagmar> THe last reason to give a fuck about Oracle went away when MySQL came ACID capable
22:24 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: Vandy has an iTunes account?
22:24 <@Dagmar> What do you mean/
22:24 < RangerZ1> apparently 'vandy apps' is having trouble posting apps
22:24 <@Dagmar> Well, let's see...
22:24 <@Dagmar> On the one hand, I'm sure it's someone in ITS
22:25 < RangerZ1> great, b/c I gave them your email to ask you to fix it
22:25 <@Dagmar> On the other hand, I'm pretty sure it's an SDM and I actually like most of them
22:25  * RangerZ1 walks away, job well done
22:25 < RangerZ1> LOL
22:25 <@northrup> LOL
22:25 <@Dagmar> I take it that they're trying to submit an app to go intot he iTunes store?
22:25 < RangerZ1> yeah
22:26 <@northrup> Chris Contos... LOL...
22:26 <@Dagmar> If John Brassil isn't the guy, he _will_ know who is
22:26 <@northrup> oh DJ B
22:26 <@Dagmar> He is basically the Hill Center's Mass Media whore
22:26 <@Dagmar> ..not in a bad way tho
22:26 <@Dagmar> If it involves a digital broadcast of any kind, he's in the middle of it
22:27 <@Dagmar> Chris Contos *might* be
22:27 <@northrup> Dagmar: oh I know, I was with John when we started that gig, way back when.
22:27 <@Dagmar> Yes he's come a long way from broadcasting somewhat questional digital sequencer loops
22:27 <@Dagmar> er questionable
22:27 <@northrup> initially with Fore ATM ATV hardware, then with vBricks
22:27 < RangerZ1> ehh, its in 'administrative hell' right now
22:28 < RangerZ1> trying to explain to admins wtf is going on
22:28 <@northrup> RangerZ1: good luck!
22:28  * northrup takes one step back away from line
22:28 < RangerZ1> thankfully, not my problem (yet)
22:28 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: What is in admin hell?
22:28 < RangerZ1> the request to figure out who has the credentials
22:28 <@Dagmar> Oh, so someone asked a manager then
22:28 <@Dagmar> ...the person least likely to know a damn thing.
22:29 <@Dagmar> Man I completely never conneected that Chris Contos was Chris Contos
22:29 <@Dagmar> Shows how much I was paying attention to who was the station engineer at 91
22:29 <@Dagmar> I like Chris fine as an SDM
22:30 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: ...but between those two people, one of them's *going* to know who to talk to
22:30 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: Just poke 'em over Lync tomorrow and tell them I fingered them
22:31 < RangerZ1> lol
22:31 <@Dagmar> ...that is if they don't direct you to Lacy Tite
22:31 <@Dagmar> She's the other person who *may* have those since some stuff got consolidated with PUblic Affairs in stewardship
22:32 < RangerZ1> I'll keep the names written down and remembered and if it becomes my problem, I'll start dealing with it, lol
22:32 <@Dagmar> Well, if you ahve Lync you can poke me over that
22:32 <@Dagmar> or just call me
22:32 < RangerZ1> never had a reason to set it up
22:32 < RangerZ1> but yeah
22:33 <@Dagmar> It'll let you route an 875 number to your desktop
22:33 < RangerZ1> ahh
22:33 < RangerZ1> might look into it
22:34 <@Dagmar> You might have to actually put in a request for a number, but if you're in Exchange, you'll be able to use Lync, and it should still be able to call campus numbers
22:35 <@Dagmar> It took them a few years, but it's almost half as useful as Pidgin now
22:36 < RangerZ1> lol
22:36 <@Dagmar> They can just give up competing with Google on that front
22:36 <@Dagmar> My fucking phone number now rings to my goddamn desktop if I have a browser up
22:37 <@northrup> you know what's completely stupid about that... google completely flushes XMPP right as Microsoft turns the Lync ship to use XMPP
22:37 <@Dagmar> THat just basically started happening as sort of a side effect of having Google for voicemail on my cell phone
22:37 <@Dagmar> They'll put XMPP back in
22:37 <@Dagmar> XMPP just wasn't goign to be able to handle the things Hangouts is doing now
22:38 <@Dagmar> Sorting that out is a larger problem
22:38 <@Dagmar> ...and XNPP seems a little hung up with respect to directories
22:38 <@Dagmar> ...which generally resulted in support request posts and confusion anyway
22:39 < RangerZ1> holy fuck... 5hrs at 38k ft w/ no O2 ... and the kid lived
22:39 <@Dagmar> No, there's _just_ enough oxygen
22:39 <@northrup> Ah yeah... it's not the thin O2 that surprised me...
22:39 <@Dagmar> Largely the only reason people survive that is partly _because_ the hypothermia practically puts them into hibernation
22:39 <@northrup> it's how fucking cold it gets at that hight and speed
22:40 < RangerZ1> a 15y/o stowed away in the wheel well of flight from sandeigo to hawaii
22:40 <@Dagmar> Like, you might be half frozen, but it keeps you from needing so much oxygen
22:40 <@northrup> which, I haven't RTFA, but how the hell did he bypass airport security, get on the tarmac, and up into the landing gear?
22:40 <@Dagmar> There was a medical post on news.y earlier today about this
22:41 <@Dagmar> northrup: because the TSA are pro
22:41 < RangerZ1> he didn't, b/c obviously TSA would prevent that DUH
22:41 <@northrup> so much for our theater of security
22:41 <@Dagmar> oh lordy
22:41 <@Dagmar> PVP has made a Super Shiba
22:42 <@Dagmar> http://pvponline.com/comic/2014/04/21/do-not-want
22:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: PVP - do not want (at pvponline.com)
22:44 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: I'm surprised you didn't flip over the router backdoor
22:44 < RangerZ1> lol
22:44 <@Dagmar> huh?
22:45 <@Dagmar> Dude I just *assume* consumer routers are compromisable
22:46 <@Dagmar> The dude who found that seriously did so because it was _easier_ then asking his parents to dig up the password
22:47 < RangerZ1> yeah
22:47 < RangerZ1> that amused me
22:47 <@Dagmar> I liked his map.
22:47 <@Dagmar> "SOME COWS HERE"
22:47 <@Dagmar> "MORE COWS"
22:48 < RangerZ1> ?
22:48 < RangerZ1> I didn't see that, let me look again
22:48 <@Dagmar> Yeah he did a map of the area he was in using MSpaint
22:49 <@Dagmar> The manufs *had* to have known trying to hide the thing was going to be useless
22:50 <@Dagmar> ...because in the write up, after the foudn the backdoor and got internets up, he then dumped the rom and took it apart to find out how it worked
22:50 <@Dagmar> He made them look _bad_
22:50 <@Dagmar> ...and in a week we'll have a table of MAC addresses to correlate to model numbers and knock codes.
22:50 <@Dagmar> Count on it
22:51 <@Dagmar> ...because motherfuckers don't LISTEN when you tell them "NO HIDDEN ACCESS METHODS"
22:51 <@Dagmar> It's always stupid, it's always a disservice to the customer, and it's _always_ found out when someone starts taking the routers apart
22:51 < RangerZ1> yeah
22:52 < RangerZ1> problem is that its an NP-Complete problem
22:52 < RangerZ1> _if_ you are competent at all in hiding it... lol
22:52 <@Dagmar> Well, their main competition is "anything that can run WRT" and those people always try to install WRT on shit anyway
22:53 <@Dagmar> ...and they're generally pulling the ROMs just to figure out what tey have to do to get WRT or tomato or whatever on there
22:54 < RangerZ1> I'm starting to think that _all_ hardware needs 'bios'
22:54 <@Dagmar> You need more backdoors?
22:54 < RangerZ1> all be it, not 'quite' bios, but the same concept
22:55 < RangerZ1> a single change in federal acquisition rules would fix this, require all hardware designs and  code to be released open source
22:56 < RangerZ1> and see a lot of boeing engineers just collapse
22:58 <@aestetix> god
22:58 <@aestetix> Just when I think candy crush can't get any harder
22:59 <@aestetix> they introduce a new piece
23:03 < RangerZ1> this one is a gif
23:03 < RangerZ1> your wallet opening up, and money coming out of it
23:03 < RangerZ1> lol
23:03 <@northrup> LOL
23:04 <@aestetix> haha
23:05 <@aestetix> I have not paid them a cent :)
23:05 <@aestetix> I don't think they know just how patient and stubborn I am
23:37 <@northrup> they say the best things in life are free ;-)
23:46 < RangerZ1> http://slashdot.org/story/14/04/21/2354200/the-science-behind-powdered-alcohol so apparently we've known how to make powered alcohol sine the 70s
23:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Science Behind Powdered Alcohol - Slashdot (at slashdot.org)
23:46 < RangerZ1> lol
23:51 < RangerZ1> hmm
23:51 < RangerZ1> google app engine is fucked up today
23:57 < RangerZ1> anyone ran into that?
23:57 < RangerZ1> all 3 projects that were using it today, were laggy as hell around 4pm, and now I just get 500s
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