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02:06 <@Bahhumbug> If anyone has tried to ident to nickserv recently and had it seemingly ignore you... there was no reservation on *Serv so a couple brainiacs decided to /nick to nickserv.  Wonder how many passwords they got...
02:20 <@Dagmar> This is why you use the NS command.
02:23 <@Bahhumbug> /ns is just a server alias for /msg nickserv
02:23 <@Bahhumbug> If you don't want passwords revealed use SASL.
02:24 <@Bahhumbug> Or server password will prevent disclosure due to spoofing as well.
02:26 <@Dagmar> No, on _your client_ it's an alias.
02:27 <@Dagmar> Try /rawirc ns help
02:27 <@Dagmar> ...or /quote ns help
02:27 <@Dagmar> Hence, "NS" command.  All-caps.
02:27 <@Dagmar> like. NOTIFY and PRIVMSG
02:28 <@Dagmar> [1;30m[[1;37m1[1;30m][0m ��� NickServ  Services are currently unavailable[0m
02:28 <@Dagmar> This is what you get back when you use the NS _IRC_ command and services are offline
02:30 <@Bahhumbug> alias nickserv { type services; };
02:30 <@Bahhumbug> alias ns { target nickserv; type services; };
02:30 <@Bahhumbug> Server aliases.
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12:47 <@shapr> !quote
12:47 <@shapr> !QuoteGrabs quote
12:47 <@GateKeeper> shapr: quotegrabs quote [<channel>] <nick>
12:47 <@shapr> !QuoteGrabs quote #se2600
12:47 <@GateKeeper> shapr: quotegrabs quote [<channel>] <nick>
12:47 <@shapr> !QuoteGrabs quote #se2600 klixa
12:47 <@shapr> GateKeeper: you suck
12:47 <@shapr> klixa: OH HAI
12:49 <@shapr> http://tldrwikipedia.tumblr.com/image/81406993132
12:49 <@GateKeeper> Title: TL;DR Wikipedia: Photo (at tldrwikipedia.tumblr.com)
13:01 <@klixa> lol
13:01 <@klixa> !QuoteGrabs quote #se2600 shapr
13:01 <@klixa> hmmm
13:01 <@klixa> !QuoteGrabs quote #se2600 aestetix
13:02 <@klixa> its not working!?!??!?!?!?!?!?
13:02 <@klixa> :(
13:02 <@shapr> I don't know.
13:07 <@SuMo_D> oh dang, I thought the defcon art thing was the 15th
13:07 <@SuMo_D> whoops
13:08 <@SuMo_D> stupid calendars
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15:38 <@RangerZ> http://www.ted.com/talks/lawrence_lessig_the_unstoppable_walk_to_political_reform
15:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Lawrence Lessig: The unstoppable walk to political reform | Talk Video | TED.com (at www.ted.com)
15:39 <@Bahhumbug> @list quotegrabs
15:39 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: get, grab, list, quote, random, search, and ungrab
15:40 <@Bahhumbug> @help quotegrabs grab
15:40 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: (quotegrabs grab [<channel>] <nick>) -- Grabs a quote from <channel> by <nick> for the quotegrabs table. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
15:40 <@Bahhumbug> @quotegrabs grab #se2600 shapr
15:40 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: By your command
15:40 <@Bahhumbug> @help quotegrabs list
15:40 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: (quotegrabs list [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns a list of shortened quotes that have been grabbed for <nick> as well as the id of each quote. These ids can be used to get the full quote. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
15:40 <@Bahhumbug> @help quotegrabs list #se2600 Shadow404
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> @quotegrabs list #se2600 sharpr
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> @quotegrabs list #se2600 shapr
15:41 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: #2: I don't know.
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> Seems like a stupid plugin.
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> @quotegrabs random #se2600
15:41 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: <Phibs> haha
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> Nice.  Doesn't limit it to channel?
15:42 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, fuck that.
15:42 <@Bahhumbug> @unload quotegrabs
15:42 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: By your command
15:43  * shapr shrugs
15:46 <@aestetix> wow
15:46 <@aestetix> portal 2 is really fun
15:46 <@klixa> portal 2 woudlnt work on my mac
15:46 <@aestetix> It's a lot of the puzzle elements of halflife without the annoying shooting
15:50 < Wilpig> Bahhumbug: that coudl have been amusing to see what other quotes it would have pulled up.  haha
15:50 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah... that's why I removed it :)
15:50 <@Bahhumbug> That's info disclosure I don't need in my life :)
15:50 <@RangerZ> lol
15:51  * Wilpig clucks and struts around Bahhumbug 
15:51 <@Bahhumbug> Damned right I'm chicken.
15:52 <@Bahhumbug> That bot is in a few other channels.  Some of which are project admin channels.  I can forsee all _sorts_ of badness from that.
15:53 <@RangerZ> yeah...
15:54 < Wilpig> I picked up a torrent or two of "comedians in cars getting coffee" but they aren't named in any sane sort of manner so i'm renaming now.  if you're interested they'll be int hat place where I put things after i'm done renaming
15:54 <@shapr> we call it... THE INTERNET
15:55 <@klixa> aka MY FRIEND
15:56 < Wilpig> tsk tsk klixa.  you don't have any friends.  
15:56  * Wilpig shakes his head
15:56 <@klixa> :(
15:57  * klixa makes a friend-bot
15:59  * shapr hugs klixa 
16:00  * klixa hugs shapr back; does this mean we are friends?
16:01 < Wilpig> he just picked your pocket
16:05 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcN58dN4EUA kinda cool to see Atlus(now part of Sega) picking up indie games that try to kickstarter and both fail or succeed (They have picked up one of each so far), and publishing them to a wide range of devices.
16:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: Citizens of Earth Teaser - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:08 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: so when you fuck a guy, do you prefer him to be face down or face up?
16:08 <@aestetix> Wilpig: should we start a tumblr with all his answers?
16:11 <@shapr> klixa: yes, we can be friends!
16:11 <@RangerZ> 'start' ?
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16:12 <@RangerZ> Wilpig: did that a month ago
16:12 <@klixa> shapr: ok!
16:12 <@klixa> i cant backup data off this stupid WINDOWS laptop.... wtf
16:12 <@shapr> aw, I'm sorry
16:12 <@klixa> i have tried manually and with software...quite a few different ones
16:12 <@klixa> not sure whats up here...
16:14 <@RangerZ> try adware/spybot
16:15 <@RangerZ> first thing I always do on reformat is installl those, b/c i've had a virus/(spyware, or w/e) that was blocking its install... lol
16:15 <@klixa> right now im just trying to backup the music, pics, etc
16:16 <@RangerZ> via usb-hdd?
16:16 <@RangerZ> or what?
16:16 <@klixa> yes
16:16 <@klixa> usb hd
16:16 <@RangerZ> i'd still run spybot then
16:16 <@RangerZ> if you're having issues
16:16 <@RangerZ> and scan the drive also now too
16:17 <@klixa> im scanning it alreay
16:17 <@klixa> i need software that keeps copying even when it finds somehting corrupt
16:17 <@RangerZ> no you don't, you need to do a scandisk
16:17 <@RangerZ> then use w/e
16:19 <@klixa> im glad i have a mac...pc's are annoying
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16:19 <@klixa> heh, it froze
16:19 <@RangerZ> unless mac auto-schedules scandisk, you need to do it also
16:19 <@klixa> the scan has had 2:30 sec to go for a long time now
16:20 <@klixa> im dealing with a pc right now RangerZ
16:20 <@klixa> with wondows 8
16:20 <@RangerZ> how old of a HDD?
16:20 <@klixa> the laptop is 8 months old
16:20 <@klixa> too early to have issues...but something is up
16:21 <@klixa> and its had problems anyway that also suggest a bad disk
16:21 <@klixa> freezing up, etc
16:21 <@RangerZ> i'd skip the spybot then for now
16:21 <@RangerZ> and do discscan or w/e they call it in 8
16:22 <@RangerZ> and defragment after that too
16:22 <@klixa> thats what i am doing...i may need a 3rd party app...the default window thing sucks
16:22 <@klixa> i defragged a month afo
16:22 <@klixa> i did a repair of te install too
16:22 <@klixa> drive has to be bad
16:22 <@RangerZ> hows that rum and coke?
16:22 <@klixa> thats the only thing that makes sense
16:22 <@RangerZ> or you more a vodka girl? lol
16:22 <@RangerZ> hehe
16:23 <@klixa> i like pina coladas
16:24 <@RangerZ> when it comes to ntfs, MS's tool is usually pretty good http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6221-chkdsk-check-drive-errors-windows-8-a.html looks to be a
16:24 <@RangerZ> ...decent guide on win8's
16:24 <@RangerZ> which i'm guessing you are doing right, but if its failing
16:24 <@RangerZ> than probably drive
16:24 <@klixa> it froze
16:24 <@RangerZ> OR something else major
16:24 <@klixa> im trying a 3rd party app
16:24 <@klixa> now
16:28 <@RangerZ> which tool? (b/c i honestly don't even know of one to use) so curious
16:29 <@klixa> its called hdd scan...i dunno what to use either really...i usually deal with macs
16:29 <@RangerZ> hmm
16:29 <@klixa> reallocaiton sector count is bad....
16:29 <@klixa> reallocaiton event count
16:30 <@RangerZ> yeah, but thats not the end of the world, if it can be corrected
16:30 <@RangerZ> but, what might be best if you could do this without the drive running the OS
16:30 <@RangerZ> but I don't know of any *nix util that works well on ntfs
16:31 <@RangerZ> hmm looks like fsck will work on ntfs
16:31 <@RangerZ> that might be your next step, a debian/ubuntu live disk
16:35 <@klixa> well, right now its rebooting into some weird moe and attmepting to reapir itself
16:36 <@klixa> mode*
16:37 <@RangerZ> thats good
16:42 <@RangerZ> WOW
16:42 <@RangerZ> I just got a captcha from google search
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16:59 <@aestetix> jesus
16:59 <@aestetix> The US really seems to love shootouts
17:09 <@RangerZ> aestetix: ??
17:09 <@RangerZ> the philly hotel shooting?
17:09 <@aestetix> Another shooting on CNN
17:09 <@RangerZ> ohh don't worry, that wasn't a shootout
17:09 <@aestetix> This one in Kansas
17:09 <@RangerZ> that was rcial
17:09 <@RangerZ> racial*
17:09 <@aestetix> Oh I guess that makes it ok
17:09 <@RangerZ> shoot outs = only inner city people
17:09 <@RangerZ> in suburbs = national attention
17:10 <@RangerZ> come on... you should know this
17:10 <@aestetix> heh
17:10 <@aestetix> Well jews are sort of the suburban negros
17:10 <@RangerZ> nah
17:10 <@aestetix> You know what I think is great
17:10 <@RangerZ> not really
17:10 <@aestetix> The US has homogenized racism so much
17:10 <@RangerZ> jews have completely taken overe entire cities in upstate NY and other places
17:10 <@aestetix> That you're no longer irish, british, french, german..... you're white
17:11 <@aestetix> Or maybe that's because Americans are retarded
17:11 <@RangerZ> aestetix: its interesting
17:11 <@RangerZ> look at the history of the term 'christian' being used instead of 'catholic' 'baptist' etc
17:11 <@aestetix> The interesting thing is, white and black... what about indians?
17:11 <@aestetix> heh
17:11 <@RangerZ> if we had more inner christian fighting, they would be a LOT weaker as a voting block
17:12 <@RangerZ> and the republicans wouldn't exist
17:12 <@aestetix> ahhh ok
17:12 <@aestetix> So wait. Did "white" predate Nixon?
17:12 <@RangerZ> b/c catholics = largest single religion in US
17:12 <@RangerZ> other "christians" don't really know or want to accept that
17:13 <@RangerZ> JFK made being a catholic basically a non-issue
17:13 <@RangerZ> with his assassination, probably moreso than his election
17:13 <@aestetix> He also allowed everyone to stop wearing hats
17:13 <@RangerZ> ?
17:14 <@aestetix> All men wore hats until JFK was president.
17:14 <@RangerZ> ehh
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17:15 <@RangerZ> "The 1970 Census was the first time that a "Hispanic" identifier was used and data collected with the question. "
17:16 <@RangerZ> i'm going to guess that us civil rights era is what 'formed' the 'white'
17:16 <@RangerZ> b/c the first slaves brought to NA were spanish slavers raiding ireland and bringing them to the caribean islands
17:17 <@RangerZ> so irish weren't really 'white' until 1900s, lol
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17:17 <@RangerZ> atleast not WASPy
17:17 <@aestetix> Ok
17:18 <@aestetix> So that would be basically the 60s
17:18 <@RangerZ> yeah, i'd guess
17:18 <@RangerZ> jfk + civil rights
17:19 <@aestetix> As someone who is Irish, it's amusing to hear all these fauxminists accuse me of being a colonizer. I'm like... bitch, until 50 years ago I was basically a black guy
17:19 <@RangerZ> plus, the southern strategy of the repbublicans in 70
17:19 <@aestetix> right, that's what I meant with nixon
17:19 <@RangerZ> i come from 2 long family lines
17:20 <@RangerZ> 1 irish catholic , 1 wasp
17:20 <@RangerZ> at my grandparents level
17:20 <@RangerZ> in 60s my great grandfather's friend in NC, had my great grandfather, grand father, and grandmother in the car
17:20 <@RangerZ> and pointed and laughed at "thats the cliff we throw the blacks and catholics off of"
17:21 <@aestetix> heh
17:21 <@RangerZ> she was irish catholic, red headed ginger
17:21 <@RangerZ> freckled and all
17:21 <@aestetix> so she had no soul
17:21 <@RangerZ> no she did, gingers lost their souls in early 00's
17:21 <@RangerZ> little known fact
17:21 <@RangerZ> ;)
17:22 <@aestetix> But yeah. This newfangled "racism" drama seems to be mostly angry college kids with twitter who don't understand history and are using it as a device to project their anger about their parents :)
17:22 <@RangerZ> when Broadband became common, it sucked it up in the 'series of tubes'
17:22 <@RangerZ> RIP ted stevens
17:22 <@RangerZ> lol
17:25 <@RangerZ> aestetix: I dunno about that
17:25 <@RangerZ> I think racism is very prevelant
17:25 <@RangerZ> its just so ingrained into our system, that it is hard to 'pick out'
17:28 <@RangerZ> look at my family vs others , my g.grandfather faught in WWII, and built our house in 54, for 23k$ (was a _really_ nice house at the time, marble fire place, marble windowsills, naughty pine wall paneling in dining room, etc)  he was able to get financing through VA program for that, whereas the blacks that came home after WWII, were not able to buy houses properly like they were 'suppose' to be able to through the VA program, b/c people w
17:29 <@RangerZ> so just starrting from WWII alone, the wealth gap has just increased
17:29 <@RangerZ> and in 2008, it just became silly
17:30 <@RangerZ> blacks lost like 80% of their wealth, b/c they had invested most of it in their houses
17:30 <@klixa> using roadkil's unstoppable copy
17:30 <@klixa> gotta get the data off
17:30 <@klixa> nothig is fixing drive
17:30 <@RangerZ> klixa: could just boot into linux, and DD ?
17:31 <@klixa> thats a last resort
17:31 <@klixa> and id use my mac...i would just take hd out, and put it into one of my enclosures
17:32 <@RangerZ> aestetix: I've actually been thinking about this, and apparently blacks weren't fighting for 'integration' , they just wanted equal rights, but the SCOTUS ruled that integration was the only way to do that. I'm wondering if integration might have made things worse, by 'forcing' the issue.
17:34 <@RangerZ> but thats probably naive, since then they probably wouldn't have had 'as good' as results as they have had today *shrugs*
17:46 <@RangerZ> So some part of me feels bad, I use newegg to do comparisons, and shop, then I buy from amazon, b/c of free shipping and lower prices ... lol
17:54 <@aestetix> sorry
17:54 <@aestetix> I'm distracted. Portal 2 is awesome
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18:09 <@RangerZ> anyone know someplace to get cheap compressed air cans? or something?
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18:17 <@Bahhumbug> People stilll use that?
18:17 <@Bahhumbug> Retardedly overpriced.
18:20 <@RangerZ> yeah, I don't have access to a air compressor down here easily
18:20 <@RangerZ> and don't feel like buying my own right now
18:20 <@RangerZ> so a cheap one wouldn't be bad
18:22 <@klixa> walmart
18:23 <@klixa> or, if you lived in a non sucky place, fry's electronics
18:24 <@RangerZ> yeah, not that cheap
18:24 <@RangerZ> i was kinda surprised
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18:25 <@Bahhumbug> Cheap is just that, cheap.  If you're going to get a compressor spend a few more bucks up front and have a unit that will last.
18:26 <@Bahhumbug> Damn things are super useful.
18:27 <@klixa> how much are they
18:44 <@Bahhumbug> Not sure.  I've got a 2-cylinder unit I got a few years back and I don't recall what I paid for it now.  It wasn't _that_ expensive from what I recall.
18:45 <@RangerZ> only a couple thousand
18:45 <@RangerZ> since Bahhumbug is so rich
18:45 <@RangerZ> ;)
18:47 <@Bahhumbug> Craftsman 4 gallon oil-free compressor on sale now marked down to $124 from $139.
18:48 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.sears.com/craftsman-4-gallon-pancake-air-compressor-with-hose/p-00915215000P?prdNo=7
18:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: Sears.com (at www.sears.com)
18:48 <@Dagmar> They're handy if you wind up with a clown infestation on your hands
18:48 <@Bahhumbug> (That's not my current unit, but I've owned that specific unit in the past and it was quite nice.)
18:50 <@RangerZ> yeah, not this month
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19:38 <@aestetix> so
19:38 <@aestetix> I wish someone would do a Women in Tech panel that's actually women in tech
19:38 <@aestetix> and not a bunch of women complaining about harassment
19:41 <@Shadow404> but why are women allowed in tech to begin with?
19:41 <@Shadow404> look how well that worked for anarchival
19:41  * Shadow404 stirs the pot again
19:41 <@klixa> wait. stop. you mean complaing about harassment is _not_ tech?!!?!?!?!?!??!!?
19:42 <@RangerZ> in academics women are fine, but I've never worked in a 'real' tech place, but the crap networking job I had, the women were token
19:42 <@klixa> imo what thee women fail to notice is the men harass EACH OTHER too
19:43 <@RangerZ> we had a girl that deserved to be fired, but wouldn't b/c she was the only female call tech
19:44 <@RangerZ> and the "vice president of operations" was basically the fancy title for secretary they gave to the other female that worked there full time (part timer accountant was female too, but she barely worked in office), but that place had the same problem with the one black guy, they should have fired him for lying about his criminal record ... we found out he had 2x convictions for sex with a female under the age of 12...
19:45 <@RangerZ> lets just say... people bringing their kids to work... stopped that day
19:45 <@RangerZ> but they didn't fire him, b/c he was the only black employee at the time
19:45 <@RangerZ> was such a fucked up place to work :/
19:45 <@klixa> i think his sexual arrests should have trumped affirmative action
19:47 <@RangerZ> so do I, but they were so leery of getting sued, you'd have thought they had employed NotLarry in the past or something
19:48 <@RangerZ> NotLarry: hows those hand sanitizers working for ya? lol
19:48 <@klixa> i dont get why women in tech are all about dssing men tho...i think maybe they justdont understand men
19:48 <@aestetix> uh
19:49 <@aestetix> given that one of my friends who is a woman just totally schooled me on compiler theory
19:49 <@aestetix> but she won't go on panels like that because she hates it
19:49 <@RangerZ> lets be honest, thats not very hard aestetix
19:49 <@RangerZ> lol
19:49 <@aestetix> lol
19:51 <@RangerZ> I think 'promoting' STEM to middleschool/HS girls is most important thing
19:51 <@klixa> lol
19:51 <@klixa> stem?
19:51 <@RangerZ> once more women enter the field, it will be better off
19:51 <@klixa> nm
19:51 <@RangerZ> STEM = science, technology, engineering, and math
19:52 <@klixa> yeah i figired it out...tho it took me a min, ccause im a gir
19:52 <@aestetix> you know what else would help
19:52 <@klixa> girl*
19:52 <@aestetix> promoting the humanities
19:52 <@klixa> and women are retard
19:52 <@klixa> s
19:52 <@aestetix> I'm fucking sick of running into these tech geek guys who have never read a fiction book
19:53 <@RangerZ> aestetix: the problem isn't that
19:53 <@RangerZ> thats NCLB
19:53 <@RangerZ> techies in here are 30+ and read plenty
19:53 <@aestetix> well sure
19:53 <@aestetix> not the ones I run into on the street though
19:54 <@RangerZ> 20~28 y/o are the fucked group
19:54 <@aestetix> right
19:54 <@klixa> gen y
19:54 <@klixa> gen y doesnt read
19:54 <@aestetix> that's the age of the NCLB kids?
19:54 <@RangerZ> yes
19:54 <@aestetix> I got into an argument with omeone about this
19:54 <@RangerZ> +/- 1yr
19:54 <@RangerZ> on each end
19:54 <@aestetix> Basically, they were in favor of NCLB because it allowed them to evaluate kids.
19:54 <@klixa> gen y are like 32 at the oldest atm?
19:54 <@RangerZ> b/c of birthdates, and how the schools impl. it
19:54 <@aestetix> I was so stunned I couldn't even respond.
19:55 <@aestetix> klixa: I basically hate everyone under 25
19:55 <@RangerZ> "Millennials (also known as the Millennial Generation[1] or Generation Y) are the demographic cohort following Generation X. There are no precise dates when the generation starts and ends. Researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s."
19:55 <@Bahhumbug> The best system engineer I've ever known was a women.  The days of women being "token" are pretty much over with.
19:56 <@Bahhumbug> Now they fall into the same categories as men.  Useful or fertilizer.
19:56 <@RangerZ> Bahhumbug: at bigger places, but smaller places , not from what I've seen
19:56 <@RangerZ> but I hope you're right
19:56 <@RangerZ> but they weren't "techy" either way
19:56 <@RangerZ> tbh
19:56 <@Bahhumbug> Here's a thought.  Stop _treating them as women_.
19:56 <@klixa> synctoy, has been able to copy from this bad drive when all other apps failed
19:56 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not saying _you_ specifically.
19:56 <@Bahhumbug> But in general.
19:56 <@Bahhumbug> They are just people.
19:56 <@RangerZ> yeah
19:56 <@RangerZ> i completely agree,
19:56 <@Bahhumbug> They either know their shit or they are useless.
19:57 <@klixa> i was ready to DD, had my live linux usb ready to write to usb...but then this started working
19:57 <@RangerZ> klixa: congrats
19:57 <@klixa> im amzed it works..its a small utility made by MS
19:57 <@klixa> highly effectve tho
19:58 <@RangerZ> MS _does_ hire some of the best programmers out there
19:58 <@RangerZ> like http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx is a great util
19:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: Process Explorer (at technet.microsoft.com)
19:59 <@RangerZ> to find which program is fucking using a ddl or touching a file, etc
19:59 <@klixa> hmm, i think i will dl that
20:00 <@klixa> for the laptop i am working on
20:00 <@aestetix> So btw
20:00 <@aestetix> My new issue with codes of conduct
20:00 <@aestetix> Is that when you stick it into place
20:00 <@aestetix> People start saying "that is against the policy" rather than "that's not cool because"
20:01 <@RangerZ> "zero tolerance"  rules at their finest
20:01 <@RangerZ> no 'reason' has to be given
20:01 <@aestetix> It's the equivalent of "god is good because the bible says so"
20:02 <@RangerZ> no
20:02 <@RangerZ> its the 0 tol. issue
20:02 <@RangerZ> once its put in 'law', you no longer have to think about 'why' it is there
20:03 <@aestetix> but if it's law, usually there is some record of why it is there
20:03 <@aestetix> or someone who knows
20:04 <@klixa> OR
20:04 <@klixa> you get what i call "do not cross teh line" phenomena
20:04 <@RangerZ> aestetix: NO... no there is not
20:04 <@klixa> a person is dying...but they are on the ther side of a line...and you get people who wont go asve the perosn because it says do not cross teh line
20:04 <@RangerZ> why is it illegal for women to wear penny loafers on wed. in NC
20:05 <@RangerZ> or illegal for babysitters to eat _all_ the food in the fridge
20:05 <@RangerZ> there was a _story_ behind that law
20:05 <@aestetix> oh ok
20:05 <@RangerZ> and if it wasn't written down, or known by someone you know, you can't find out
20:06 <@aestetix> So basically
20:06 <@klixa> RangerZ: you are totally missing his point
20:06 <@RangerZ> no
20:06 <@klixa> he doesnt like blind adherence to rules
20:06 <@aestetix> these anti-harassment policies have all the downsides of law with none of the benefits
20:06 <@RangerZ> perhaps I'm making a different one than you
20:07 <@aestetix> HOPE is adopting a policy this year. And if I see no evidence it has "improved" anything I will push to abandon it next time
20:07 <@RangerZ> any con should have a CYA policy that legally states 'we are NOT responsible for what you do, but still don't be a dick, b/c we CAN throw anyone out for any reason"
20:08 <@RangerZ> and stop there
20:08 <@aestetix> You mean the don't be a dick policy
20:08 <@aestetix> If a con doesn't have that, they are idiots
20:09 <@RangerZ> yeah, but have a lawyer in that state write it, lol
20:09 <@Bahhumbug> Write what?
20:09 <@Bahhumbug> "Don't be a dick or you will be removed from the event."
20:09 <@RangerZ> the legalese of the CYA statement
20:09 <@Bahhumbug> There.  That's pretty much all you need, anywhere.
20:10 <@RangerZ> poor Richards, they can't come to our cons, legally
20:10 <@RangerZ> ;)
20:10 <@RangerZ> i agree, just saying that a lawyer looking over it, is best, thats all
20:10 <@Bahhumbug> That would be "Don't be a Dick..."
20:10 <@klixa> haha
20:11 <@aestetix> shit
20:11 <@aestetix> that also means Dr. Penis can't come
20:12 <@RangerZ> how about Bat'man Super-man from India
20:12 <@RangerZ> http://www.ilyke.net/uploads/546-batman-bin-superman.jpg sorry singapore
20:15 <@klixa> the doctor can hang out with me then... but i might smack somebody
20:15 <@klixa> err, i mean slap
20:26 <@aestetix> god
20:26 <@aestetix> my downstairs neighbor is playing ghetto rap
20:38 <@oddball> ah... the advantage of owning a house.
20:38 <@oddball> Although... there's been a couple times that the farm behind us was apparently having a festival and blasting rancho music.
20:41 <@aestetix> oddball: you live on a farm?
20:55 <@oddball> No, but the neighbor behind me does.
20:56 <@oddball> Nashville can be weird like that.  I live in a sub-division with about a half acre lot, guy behind me has probably a 20acre horse farm.
20:57 <@oddball> And I'm still in Metropolitan Nashville.
20:58 <@oddball> or... it's at least 20 acres... I'm bad at guessing land size and I'm not entirely sure where his property ends on at least one side.
21:00 <@aestetix> god I hate babies
21:00 <@oddball> I'm still upset that Naienko and I didn't have the cash to put a serious bid on a foreclosure auction down the street from us.  Big house dead center in the middle of a 14 acre wooded lot.  Felt like you were out in the middle of nowhere, but it's only 5 minutes to the grocery store and you could get pizza delivered.
21:01 <@aestetix> photos of babies covered in their own filth is not cute, it's fucking gross
21:01 <@RangerZ> oddball: did it have a cliff on it?
21:01 <@aestetix> and I do not appreciate it being delivered to me
21:02 <@RangerZ> the house was sorta on a peninsula of land, and cliff down to creek below it on 2/3rds of it
21:02 <@RangerZ> b/c a guy at ISIS was looking into some place like that a while ago, lol
21:04 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzC-FDJkvQo
21:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: PETA Enlists Jeffrey Dahmer To Battle Meat-Eating - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
21:04 <@oddball> I believe it had a cliff on one side... that faced Old Hickory Blvd.
21:04 <@RangerZ> he lost out on the bidding too
21:07 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: Considering some of the crap you've linked here I consider that somewhat fitting.
21:07 <@oddball> Meat is murder!  Tasty, tasty murder.
21:07 <@Bahhumbug> :)
21:08 <@oddball> Bahhumbug: The annoying thing is that we almost rented that place with a couple friends of ours before we bought the house we're currently in (one of them decided it was too far from downtown).
21:09 <@aestetix> Bahhumbug: I always preface with NSFW though
21:09 <@aestetix> maybe there should be a "trigger warning: baby photos" tag
21:10 < Wilpig> should any of you find yourself needing a hardware monitor.  this isn't half bad.   http://openhardwaremonitor.org/
21:10 < Wilpig> small, no install necessary, does just what it says it will
21:12 <@aestetix> Wilpig: just like sex, right?
21:12 < Wilpig> since when has sex ever done just what it says it will?
21:12 <@aestetix> god I hate babies
21:13 <@aestetix> my cat is nowhere near as gross and filthy
21:21 < NotLarry> Yeah, but you cat doesn't taste as good.
21:24 <@aestetix> NotLarry: you eat poopy babies?
21:24 < NotLarry> aestetix: I didn't say that.
21:25 <@RangerZ> you didn't deny it
21:26 < NotLarry> You stay out of this android by
21:26 < NotLarry> s/by/boy
21:26 < NotLarry> kind of took the sting out of it...
21:27 < Wilpig> time to get ready for bed and watch a little tv
21:27 < Wilpig> night y'all
21:28 <@aestetix> Wilpig: don't forget to masturbate
21:28 <@aestetix> I never have to remind NotLarry
21:29 < NotLarry> What do you call 5000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
21:30 <@Bahhumbug> A start.
21:30 < NotLarry> "It's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot"
21:32 <@aestetix> What's long and soft and makes NotLarry happy?
21:32 <@aestetix> a joint lol
21:34 <@Bahhumbug> Oddly enough it makes me happy as well.
21:34 <@Bahhumbug> So I think will go out to the garage and pull a couple bong hits.
21:36 <@RangerZ> you know... I have got to be the most boring person in here, never done nor want to do drugs
21:36 <@RangerZ> when I tripped from meds, i fucking hated it, and feel no reason why I'd want to go back to that
21:38 <@aestetix> RangerZ: you should try LSD
21:52 <@Catonic> LSD-25 or something else?
21:52 <@Catonic> RangerZ: empathy. So you understand what "Buy the ticket, take the ride." means.
21:53 <@Dagmar> Finalyl
21:53 <@Dagmar> I covered the drivers seat bottom for my car in pleather and it only took two and a half hours
21:53 <@Dagmar> It doesn't look abysmal
21:54 <@Dagmar> So... success!
21:55 < NotLarry> RangerZ: I don't do drugs.
21:55 < NotLarry> Well, I take what the doctor perscribes but that is more for public saftey.
21:55 < NotLarry> Hell, I hardly even drink.
21:59 <@Catonic> He doesn't even have sex.
22:01 <@Dagmar> Oh lordy
22:02 <@Dagmar> So you have to get the 'Brabus' package in order to have power steering?
22:02 <@Dagmar> Done!
22:02 <@Dagmar> http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/default.html?id=9735485&AVi=10&No=0&Rp=R&D=90&zip=37209&N=4294963156+4294961373&Q=192720d1-6b9a-475c-bf02-73d86caacad0&Ep=search:results:results%20page
22:02 <@Dagmar> Still not too bad
22:02 <@Dagmar> Bigger tires that way too
22:04 <@RangerZ> actually thats not too bad
22:04 <@oddball> You're actually getting a Smart Car?
22:06 <@Dagmar> Might as well
22:06 <@Dagmar> It's cheaper than anything else I can find, has good gas mileage
22:07 <@oddball> And I've been told is terrifying on the freeway.
22:07 <@Dagmar> ...and the freeway is terrifying, so that's fine.
22:08 <@oddball> As in the sides apparently catch the wind rather well and you get blown about.
22:08 <@Dagmar> I used to drive a beetle and an i-mark
22:08 <@Dagmar> I am currently driving a 253lb scooter
22:09 <@oddball> yep... hipster. :p
22:09 <@Dagmar> Also driving a 1500lb bmw that is about to be classified an antique
22:10 <@oddball> Which has a much different profile than the Smart.
22:10 <@Dagmar> If those fuckers at Alexander in Franklin weren't liars I'd already be driving one
22:10 <@RangerZ> so i gotta decide if i want to transfer my ID down here to TN or not
22:10 <@Dagmar> Trust me the beemer gets blown around
22:10 <@RangerZ> still able to declare in OH
22:11 <@Dagmar> It has trouble maintaining interstate speeds in heavy rain
22:11 <@RangerZ> thankfully your scooter can handle hail
22:12 <@RangerZ> you'll prove that yet again this year, lol
22:12 <@Dagmar> The fuck I will
22:12 <@Dagmar> I'll pull over if that happens again
22:12 <@RangerZ> lol
22:12 <@oddball> heh
22:14 <@Dagmar> That shit hurt
22:15 <@RangerZ> i can only imagine
22:15 <@RangerZ> I walked home in hail once
22:15 <@RangerZ> was literally stuck in the middle of a several acre large field, when it suddenly hit
22:16 <@RangerZ> sucked ass, thank god I wasn't going at 30pmh
22:16 <@RangerZ> lol
22:17 <@RangerZ> or even mph*
22:18 <@oddball> Huh... buddy in another channel is saying that he got a Fiat 500 for $15k out the door new.
22:19 <@Dagmar> How
22:19 <@RangerZ> bare bones model
22:19 <@RangerZ> starts at 16,195
22:19 <@Dagmar> I am guessing there was some trade-in as well, because the bare-bones starts at 16000
22:19 <@RangerZ> so if he went the last day of the month, easily could get that
22:21 <@oddball> I'm guessing that 1. he's a good haggler, and 2. managed to hit an end of the year sale or something.
22:22 <@oddball> Ah... He's had it about a year and a half, so yeah... near the end of the model year.
22:23 <@oddball> Apparently he gets 36-37mpg while "driving the piss out of it" and it actually has space in it.
22:23 <@oddball> of course, it's a stick shift, so that might be part of it.
22:23 <@Dagmar> There's space in a for two
22:24 <@Dagmar> ...and you never have to listen to people in the back seat complaining.
22:26 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: but what about your soon to be child?
22:26 <@oddball> heh
22:26 <@RangerZ> *shudders*
22:26 <@Dagmar> what?
22:26 <@Dagmar> There's plenty of cargo space in the back for a baby
22:29 <@RangerZ> oddball: you better hurry up and pop one out too, so you can shoot down DruCon 2014 having a daycare
22:30 <@RangerZ> such a fucking stupid idea, I don't think he liked my assertion, that he should setup a forum, and could do it among themselves
22:30 <@oddball> And I was completely with you on that.
22:31 <@Dagmar> ebay
22:31 <@Dagmar> It's handy for selling things
22:31 <@oddball> And I don't believe for an instant that a daycare center will show up and work the weekend without any guarantee of x amount of income.
22:31 <@RangerZ> nope, my mom has a daycare
22:32 <@RangerZ> atleast on paper
22:32 <@RangerZ> she never actually started it, but all the paperwork makes for great paperwork stuff, like business sam's club membership, etc
22:32 <@oddball> Or the idea of "yes, you can drop your rug rat at daycare x, and come to the con."  If nothing else, they're not going to take care of the kids into the night or over multiple days.
22:33 <@oddball> heh
22:33 <@oddball> I say if people are really wanting it, then they can organize it.  I'm sure someone like Dolemite could handle that.
22:34 <@RangerZ> yeah
22:34 <@oddball> I'm fine with us trying to become a "family friendly" con, but zero to daycare? No.
22:34 <@RangerZ> i'm all for having it 'done' , just not part of the con officially
22:34 <@oddball> right
22:36 <@RangerZ> Dolemite: organize a daycare
22:36 <@RangerZ> lol
22:50 <@RangerZ> http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=79583&promoid=1018 if anyone was looking for a good water-cooling all-in-one system, that can expand to whole system, this is on sale now for 99$ +10$ shipping (no tax collected since its from Canada)
22:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: NCIXUS.com - Buy H220 - Swiftech H220 Quiet Power PLUG-AND-PLAY Liquid Cooling System 4 Pin 2x 120mm Fans 3/8 Fitting - Swiftech - Great price and fast delivery (at www.ncixus.com)
23:26 <@aestetix> man
23:26 <@aestetix> portal 1 was so shrot
23:26 <@aestetix> short
23:27 <@aestetix> portal 2 is huge
23:42 <@aestetix> RangerZ: you know, one question Jon Stewart asks still bothers me
23:43 <@aestetix> We have a 24 hour news cycle. So why do we only get to see short news blips?
23:43 <@aestetix> You'd think CNN would be all about investigations
23:46 <@Dagmar> Wow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9otjKEzO50#t=136
23:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: POUT-RAGE of Suey Park as Colbert lands Late Show - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:46 <@Dagmar> It makes me feel better about hte world
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23:47 <@Dagmar> The guy uses a phrase I'm going to have to remember.
23:47 <@Dagmar> "Nuclear facepalm stupid"
23:48 <@aestetix> http://gawker.com/this-is-why-you-dont-tweet-terrorism-jokes-at-airline-1562758190
23:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: This Is Why You Don't Tweet Terrorism Jokes at Airlines (at gawker.com)
23:48 <@aestetix> doesn't that make you feel safe
23:54 <@Dagmar> Well, once they arrest the little girl it will
23:54 <@Dagmar> By my perfectly reasonable standards, she needs to spend a night in jail
23:56 -!- vaneck [~vaneck@96-38-5-189.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:57 <@Dagmar> now if she could perhaps in some way prove she's not a muslim, maybe by making one of those home webcam videos, then we could maybe see our way towards deciding it was all harmless fun
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