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02:01 <@RangerZ> ohh nice, you can pickup newegg sales at the warehouse closest to you
02:01 <@RangerZ> probably best for Wilpig
02:01 <@RangerZ> since I don't know of anyone in Memphis in here
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02:21 <@RangerZ> ohh fuck, amazon is collecting tax now
03:55 <@Corydon76-home> Yep, as of the first of January.  Since they have a warehouse in Tennessee, they're required to collect sales tax.
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07:30 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:56 <@Wilpig> no u
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09:03 <@Wilpig> it is way too early to be sweating this much
09:11 <@shapr> Goood morning peoplez!
09:14 <@Wilpig> 3 racks down.  3 to go.  then I gotta come back through and drill out the bottoms of all these.  
09:15  * shapr racks out!
09:15 <@shapr> Let's see, racks out with his hacks out?
09:17  * Wilpig calls the cops to report indecent exposure
09:18 <@Corydon76-home> I just found it humorous that Wilpig is going to be drilling out bottoms.
09:19  * Wilpig glares at Corydon76-home 
09:20 <@Corydon76-home> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUS0G1OhK58
09:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: Boy Is A Bottom - by Willam, Detox & Vicky Vox - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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10:09 <@Mirage> Who's going to be updating the websites?
10:11 <@Shadow404> yoyo
10:12 <@Shadow404> wheres the new pn website that was promised?
10:14 <@Dolemite> Maybe the people in attendance didn't approve of the new design
10:14 <@Mirage> Dunno, but since they're hosted on my account at Hostmonster still, _I_ should be contacted for access, not Wilpig.
10:15 <@Dolemite> Oh, yeah, I remember.  The minutes said that they needed login credentials for the websites.  Because like, that's the last thing you need before go-live.
10:18 <@Shadow404> so, is the new con name going to be DruCo?
10:20 <@Bahhumbug> He should join up with skydick and come up with a good name, like SkyDickCon, DruCo just doesn't roll off the tongue the same way.
10:20 <@shapr> Conye?
10:20 <@Mirage> DruCon sounds better than PopeJonnyXmasCon
10:21 <@Dagmar>  Stop being twats
10:21 <@Dagmar> He was elected, he's actually getting most of the shit done properly
10:21 <@Dagmar> He's just an idiot when it comes to communication
10:21 <@Wilpig> Mirage: I dunno but someone claims he emailed me asking for passwords and I refuse to send them where I am saying I've never gotten an email
10:21 <@Shadow404> or lack of
10:21 <@Dagmar> That someone is mistaken
10:22 <@Dagmar> Dru was saying he's never gotten a response.
10:22 <@Dagmar> This is not hte same asa refusal
10:22 <@Dagmar> If this information came from a rabid bitch, I'll upgrade that "mistaken" to "lying".
10:23 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: the one and only request I got from him in which I responded that he and drink needed to make last pass accounts and tell me the account name and I would send them yielded a response from dru alone.
10:23 <@Wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gfa7kc8fot52fkn/Screen%20Shot%202014-04-05%20at%2010.54.42%20PM.png
10:23 <@Mirage> Wilpig: direct them to me.  Since I pay for the space and am liable for content posted there, I want to know who has access.
10:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - Screen Shot 2014-04-05 at 10.54.42 PM.png (at www.dropbox.com)
10:24 <@Wilpig> Mirage: that's pretty much what I was going to tell anyone that actually asked me and didn't just send a note via minutes and expect me to jump
10:24 <@Dagmar> That'll probably work, since Mirage isn't allergic to IRC
10:24 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: I didn't know until this weekend that you hosted one of the sites.  So it's not surprising that he thought Wilpig had access to everything.
10:24 <@Mirage> Wilpig: does have access..
10:24 <@Wilpig> and as for access to the other server that he claims I didn't give him access to.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wyysy9cp9se00t/Screen%20Shot%202014-04-05%20at%2010.57.22%20PM.png
10:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - Screen Shot 2014-04-05 at 10.57.22 PM.png (at www.dropbox.com)
10:24 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: yes I have access.  What I won't do is give someone else free access to mirage's space
10:25 <@Dagmar> Again, his words on Friday were "never got a response"
10:25 <@Wilpig> I will gladly setup a mirror on my server that will sync to his just fine
10:25 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: which is why I say he is full of shit and you all shoudl know me better than that
10:25 <@Dagmar> ...and believe me at this point in time, I'm ready to start mocking him for failing to be able to troubleshoot simple technology
10:25  * Wilpig spits
10:26 <@Dagmar> Clearly, there's something he's not doing right
10:26 <@Dolemite> That's an understatement
10:26 <@Dolemite> Dagmar: Did you see any evidence of an actual signed contract?
10:27 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: Corydon76-home sent money to the hotel
10:27 <@Corydon76-home> Technically, I handed Dru a check made out to the hotel
10:27 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: when asked about the contract via benthemeek.  "they didn't give him an electronic copy and he will call them for it otday"
10:27 <@Mirage> Wilpig: is it just me having bad luck, or is the loot for Expert level broken in D3?   I haven't gotten shit for upgrades.
10:28 <@Wilpig> to which I mcoked him saying he signed a contact and didn't get a copy that he could take a picture of , type up a copy of etc.  he just gave them a signature and said "FUCK ME RAW!"
10:28 <@Wilpig> Mirage: I haven't had time to really play with it.  between here and opendcim i've been swamped
10:28 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: No, but if he was fictionalizing it being signed he's lost his mind
10:28 <@Dolemite> Yeah, Contracts 101 - get a copy on the spot!
10:28 <@Mirage> Mirage: I was getting better drops on Master.  I'm loathe to go for Torment until I get a little more dps going.  Sadly my scoundrel does more dps than I do..but he's a glass cannon.
10:29 <@Dolemite> They may have told him that they won't sign the contract until he has the check, which is quite likely and standard practice
10:29 <@brimstone> wait, jonnyx didn't get a copy of something he signed?
10:29 <@brimstone> !seen jonnyx
10:29 <@Wilpig> and if he had done as I has asked repeatedly and sent a copy of the proposed contract to the help list there would not only be a copy but there coul dhave been discussion as to the problems with teh document he signed that he doesnt' even realize yet
10:29 <@brimstone> !seen a working bot
10:29 <@Dolemite> However, saying that he had a signed contract, if he doesn't, is the epic fail, here.  All you can really say at this point is that he has negotiated in good faith.
10:35 <@Wilpig> so... umm... who local to nashville wants to reverse their belief that I am not cooperating and I am withholding information / passwords / etc, not responding to emails?
10:35 <@Dagmar> I would like for the whining to stop
10:36 <@Bahhumbug> @seen jonnyx
10:36 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: jonnyx was last seen in #se2600 27 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 38 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <jonnyx> Educational in either event.
10:36 <@Bahhumbug> The bots been here for something like two years now :)
10:36 <@Bahhumbug> @config search @
10:36 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.@yn and supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.@yn.locked
10:37 <@Bahhumbug> @config search command
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10:37 <@Bahhumbug> Fuck this -easier to grep
10:37 <@Bahhumbug> @config supybot.reply.whenaddressedby.chars @!
10:37 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: By your command
10:37 <@Bahhumbug> !seen jonnyx
10:38 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: jonnyx was last seen in #se2600 27 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 40 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <jonnyx> Educational in either event.
10:38 <@Wilpig> what day is 4/29?
10:38 <@Bahhumbug> There.
10:38 <@Bahhumbug> Tuesday
10:38 <@Wilpig> fuck.  that sucks
10:38 <@Wilpig> tumbrl has a private advance screening of spiderman2 in NY but it's on 4/29
10:39 <@RangerZ> thats ok, we'll take a road trip up, and put a red wig on Dolemite
10:39 <@Wilpig> I also have two guest passes...
10:41 <@Shadow404> one for each hoe?
10:49  * shapr hops quietly
10:49 <@RangerZ> whoa... wtf... I have to pay sales tax on S&H on amazon into TN?
10:49 <@Dagmar> Yes
10:50 <@RangerZ> that sucks
10:50 <@RangerZ> OH , S&H isn't taxed
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11:01 <@Shadow404> shapr: diaf
11:01  * shapr hugs Shadow404 with much supportiveness
11:01 <@shapr> Shadow404: It's okay, I have an ex-wife too.
11:02 <@Shadow404> heh
11:02 <@RangerZ> but good news Shadow404
11:02 <@RangerZ> your ex-wife isn't as crazy as Wilpig's
11:02 <@Shadow404> i wouldnt say that
11:02 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: You only have to pay tax on handling charges, not shipping, unless the shipper provides only a S&H line and refuses to separate them.
11:03 <@RangerZ> (hey, I was trying to comfort Wilpig) lol
11:03 <@shapr> I'm afraid to compare ex-wives. I'm not sure if I want to win or lose the comparison. I think I'd rather just live in the present and try to improve the future.
11:03 <@RangerZ> hehe, thankfully I never married my ex
11:04 <@Corydon76-home> And yet, y'all still pursue women.  Y'all are masochists.
11:04 <@RangerZ> Corydon76-home: newegg and amazon both only do 1 line, 'ehh'
11:04 <@Shadow404> refer to topic Corydon76-home
11:04 <@Dagmar> Rangerz: THen it's a good thing they're willing to do all the paperwork for you
11:04 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: Yes, I already knew you're a masochist
11:06 <@RangerZ> ehh, I don't really care, it would be a hassle to have to pay 'usage tax' (leave Corydon76-home out of this) for buying stuff online
11:06 <@RangerZ> though... not like anyone was _ever_ doing that in the past
11:06 <@Corydon76-home> Heh, yeah, I suspect the use tax in Tennessee is mostly just for trapping politicians and high rollers
11:07 <@Corydon76-home> I've never heard of anybody actually paying it
11:07 <@Corydon76-home> which is probably precisely why the state is keen to go after the vendors
11:08 <@RangerZ> yep
11:09 <@Dagmar> Despite the fact that at the federal level they've said we're not going to tax over the internet
11:09 <@Shadow404> just another way to collect taxes
11:09 <@Dagmar> States are just looking to get around this to get money by exploiting a loophole
11:10 <@Shadow404> fuck them, ill buy from china directly
11:10 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: that pledge expired in recent years and was not renewed
11:10 <@Dagmar> As is both just and fair
11:10 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Color me not giving a fuck
11:11 <@Corydon76-home> I'm just saying that the feds don't have that policy to enforce on the states anymore
11:11 <@RangerZ> TN having no income tax, and highest sales tax in nation is a fucking joke for anyone making under 100k/year
11:12 <@Dagmar> They didn't have it in the first place
11:12 <@RangerZ> I've made up to 30k/year in Ohio, and never had to pay more than 300$ in income tax in Ohio
11:12 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: We're actually tied for having the highest sales tax in the nation, with several other states that ALSO have an income tax
11:14 <@RangerZ> well its ok, we're giving a corp. tax cut, and since the sales tax is down, we're not going to give teachers or state employees their 2% / 1% respectfully raises this year
11:14 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: and you not having to shell out on tax day says more about them withholding enough money to do that.
11:14 <@RangerZ> Corydon76-home: I mean 'paying' = 'due'
11:14 <@Corydon76-home> Yes, but we still have $300M to give to VW.
11:14 <@Dagmar> But only if they don't have a union
11:14 <@Corydon76-home> Right
11:14 <@RangerZ> "ohh no, thats not true"
11:15 <@Dagmar> Someone should just run the motherfucker over
11:15 <@RangerZ> "because that is against the NLRB"
11:15 <@Corydon76-home> One more corrupt Tennessee governor.  What else is new?
11:15 <@Dagmar> ..and this whole "we don't need to investigate" is just shifty as fuuck
11:15 <@Dagmar> We need to get the fucking FBI to take his ass down
11:16 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: take a few days off work, and get that started
11:16 <@Dagmar> If they were going to do it, they'd have started it already
11:16 <@Corydon76-home> I wouldn't be surprised to learn that an investigation is already in progress.  They probably just don't want to tip their hand until the arrest warrants are in hand.
11:16 <@RangerZ> i mean investigating the gov.
11:17 <@Dagmar> Yes.
11:17 <@RangerZ> Corydon76-home: probably
11:17 <@Dagmar> Channel 5 spilled enough beans for an indictment
11:17 <@Dagmar> Someone with actual pull would be able to get a lot more stuff
11:17 <@RangerZ> b/c of 'obama's FBI investigating republicans"
11:18 <@RangerZ> they don't want to fart out of place, and see political attacks
11:18 <@Corydon76-home> Or they may be waiting until after the 2014 election is over
11:19 <@Dolemite> As if the Tea Pot Republicans needed any excuse to blame Obama for anything negative, already.
11:19 <@Dolemite> There's no reason to hold back
11:19 <@Corydon76-home> Or waiting until the governor makes several campaign appearances with Republican candidates, after which they'll have to disavow the governor's involvement
11:20 <@Corydon76-home> I'm waiting for one of them to claim that the governor is no more corrupt than they are, and then we find out that that's actually true.
11:20 <@Corydon76-home> like DeJarlais
11:20 <@Corydon76-home> or Campfield
11:22 <@Dolemite> DeJarlais used to be the neighbor of my mother-in-law.  MIL is Republican, but can't stand DeJarlais.  She said that all of the dirt dug up on him about the ex wife and gun and sleeping with patients was pretty much right on the nose.
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11:25 <@Shadow404> so, hows this obamacare working out
11:25 <@Dagmar> Pretty good except for the liars and trolls, apparently
11:26 <@Shadow404> whats the % signed up?
11:26 <@Shadow404> how many of those already had coverage, but didnt meet the min requirements?
11:26 <@Shadow404> how many are just opting to pay the fine?
11:27 <@Dagmar> Not many
11:27 <@Shadow404> hw many are paying more than quoted
11:27 <@oddball> I don't seem to be able to find it in the scroll back... what's this about Haslam?
11:27 <@Dagmar> oddball: That he's a crook/
11:28 <@Dagmar> The worst I've seen so far is the lying
11:28 <@Dagmar> ...and I mean the lying from people who want to oppose Obamacare
11:28 <@oddball> Ok... so nothing beyond "he's a politician."
11:28 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: reference to a news story by News Channel 5 that found a smoking gun regarding Haslam threatening to withhold $300M of taxpayer funds if the VW plant in Chattanooga unionized.
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11:29 <@Dagmar> Some idiot woman on my FB feed just plain lied about it earlier this week, claiming she worked for an insurance company and "under Obamacare" it was going to cost this family of four roughtly $1000/month
11:29 <@Dagmar> My response is simple.  "Sounds like you work for a real asshole of an insurance company"
11:29 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: I thought that that was a known thing.
11:30 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: it is.
11:30 <@Corydon76-home> But having evidence of it is enough to indict
11:30 <@Wilpig> holy shit.  just sat down for the first time since before 8
11:30 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: could be true in some cases
11:31 <@oddball> Ah, I thought that was merely in the "stupid asshole" category, not "illegal."
11:31 <@sasquatc3> yaarrrggh, dyn is shutting down free dyndns
11:31 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: the problem is in using taxpayer funds for partisan political purposes
11:31 <@oddball> sasquatc3: fuck... really?
11:31 <@sasquatc3> yea, first story on /.
11:31 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: ah
11:32 <@sasquatc3> crap, use that every day to rdp to home
11:32 <@Dolemite> w00t. lunch time.
11:32 <@Corydon76-home> sasquatc3: so you'll have to pay in the future for that service?
11:32 <@oddball> And dear god, the new format for the Tennessean is fucking useless.
11:33 <@sasquatc3> i dunno, i guess so
11:33 <@sasquatc3> http://dyn.com/blog/why-we-decided-to-stop-offering-free-accounts/
11:33 <@GateKeeper> Title: Why We Decided To Stop Offering Free Accounts | Dyn Blog (at dyn.com)
11:33 <@RangerZ> Corydon76-home: not if you were a 'backer' w/e that means
11:33 <@RangerZ> I'm guessing they had a 'pay now, and never pay again' deal at some point
11:34 <@Shadow404> not worth it, i just auto update from my server direct to my dns provider
11:34 <@Corydon76-home> Still, $2/mo is pretty cheap
11:34 <@Shadow404> no middleman
11:34 <@oddball> sasquatc3: It would be nice if they emailed the folks using their services telling them this.
11:35 <@Shadow404> oddball: probably eill soon
11:35 <@sasquatc3> yea i know, had to find out through /.. Could sort of see the writing on the wall though when they tried to get people to forget about their accounts
11:35 <@sasquatc3> starting like a year ago they made it so you had to login once a month or else they would de-activate your free account
11:35 <@sasquatc3> guess they forgot people have things called calendars, and can be reminded automatically
11:35 <@brimstone> Shadow404: i run my own nameservers, that's no middleman
11:36 <@Shadow404> i thouhht they were just cleaning out old unused histbames
11:36 <@Shadow404> hostnames
11:36 <@Shadow404>  at first
11:37 <@Corydon76-home> Probably so
11:37 <@oddball> sasquatc3: Yeah... I can't blame them to much.  And the $25/year ain't much for the user to pay, but probably still is a huge % of profit.
11:38 <@sasquatc3> yea, well at least theres no-ip, just going through the list of supported providers on my router
11:38 <@Bahhumbug> I expect all of them to drop free services by the end of the year.
11:39 <@Bahhumbug> There is no gain in it for the providers and a lot of headaches with fucktarded attacks and stuff.
11:40 <@sasquatc3> true
11:40 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: I dunno, with a single support call, that $25/yr probably goes into non-profitable really quickly
11:41 <@Corydon76-home> I suspect it's more about cost recovery than anything else
11:41 <@Bahhumbug> Ot'
11:41 <@Bahhumbug> It's about profit.
11:42 <@Bahhumbug> Hitchcock hooked 'em and most people will end up paying to maintain their service and he knows it.
11:42 <@sasquatc3> ill have to look and see how the asus dns service works since its built into the router, hopefully i dont have to sign up, might work automatically
11:43 <@Corydon76-home> Yep, they're likely going after people who don't realize they could run their own service for half that, if they'd care to invest the time to set it up
11:44 <@sasquatc3> yup, all setup, well I knew my router automatically registered changes, just didnt bother to look at asus' built in solution since i already had dyn
11:44 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: I transferred one of my customers off the dyndns service this year
11:45 <@Wilpig> he's now running it himself.  he already had the server, added secondaries through buddyns.com and done
11:45 <@Wilpig> all the pn / se2600 dns has the same setup
11:46 <@Dagmar> Did you span the NS across dreamhosts nameservers this weekend?
11:46 <@Wilpig> no
11:47 <@Wilpig> never have.
11:47 <@Dagmar> One of the things sommeone was kvetching about on Friday was everything being served off one IP
11:47 <@Wilpig> what is everything?
11:47 <@Dagmar> I didn't check on it unde Sunday, and it's looking to me like three nameservers
11:47 <@Dagmar> mail, web, and dns
11:47 <@Wilpig> mail comes to me
11:47 <@Bahhumbug> If you (or anyone else) wants additional slaves I would be happy to provide them; I've got presence in SFO/ORD/LAX/NYC/HHN.
11:47 <@Wilpig> web for se2600 is here to me
11:47 <@Wilpig> dns primary is here
11:47 <@Dagmar> I don't see much point in worry terribly about web or mail being on more than one host
11:47 <@Wilpig> secondary is buddyns
11:48 <@Dagmar> er worrying terribly
11:48 <@Wilpig> secondary mail I had setup at a point in KY I just don't have it on righ tnow
11:48 <@Wilpig> phreaknic web is at dreamhost
11:48 <@Wilpig> mail comes here
11:48 <@Bahhumbug> Secondary MXes need to die in a fire.
11:48 <@Wilpig> dns starts here -> mirrored to buddyns
11:48 <@RangerZ> HHN?
11:49 <@Bahhumbug> Frankfurt/Hahn, Germany
11:49 <@Wilpig> uhhhhh  wtf? http://intodns.com/phreaknic.info
11:49 <@GateKeeper> Title: intoDNS: phreaknic.info - check DNS server and mail server health (at intodns.com)
11:49 <@RangerZ> ahh, ok, thats what I got in google, but i wasn't sure
11:49 <@Wilpig> someone repointed the NS records from netsol
11:49 <@Wilpig> and all the anme servers aren't responding.
11:49 <@Bahhumbug> Who has access to the registrar account(s)?
11:50 <@Bahhumbug> Because if one has that everything else is cooked and served.
11:50 <@Wilpig> dru
11:50 <@Dagmar> They're resolvinng for me
11:50 <@Wilpig> yes they've all been moved.
11:50 <@Bahhumbug> Then he owns everything even if he doesn't know it.
11:51 <@oddball> But that doesn't fit the narrative
11:51 <@Wilpig> so if mail isn't getting routed and they changed the pointers when my server HAS it's own.  yeah they probably fucked all the mail up
11:51 <@Wilpig> but i'll fix that
11:51 <@RangerZ> dru not know something, blasphemy , thats a new subsection of the new bilaws
11:51 <@Bahhumbug> by-laws
11:51 <@RangerZ> after the one about anarchival
11:51 <@Bahhumbug> Unless he flies that way.
11:51  * Bahhumbug shrugs
11:52 <@Bahhumbug> Why do I have mail in my mailbox from that cunt?
11:52 <@RangerZ> honestly I have no clue, nor care
11:52 <@Bahhumbug> I was not happy when I saw that.
11:52 <@Dagmar> Ohh...
11:52 <@Dagmar> Fucking stupid
11:52 <@Dagmar> both mx for phreaknic.org point at dreamhost
11:53 <@Wilpig> like I said.  someone fucked with them.  i'm fixing now
11:53 <@Bahhumbug> What could go wrong with that?
11:53 <@Bahhumbug> E-mail.  You just point it somewhere and everything just magically works, right?
11:53 <@RangerZ> Bahhumbug: backup pointing to the main... nothing wrong with that, there is a redundancy incase the first MX record is corrupted
11:53 <@oddball> Bahhumbug: I saw one thing sent out on the list from her.  It was on topic and appropriate.
11:54 <@RangerZ> yeah, and I saw the email this morning b/c dagmar replied to it
11:54 <@Bahhumbug> No.  Secondary MXes stopped being relevant 10+ years ago.  90% of the ones on the net are spam magnets because they do no address validation.
11:54 <@RangerZ> also, is there a se2600 mailing list, separate from the nashville2600 list?
11:55 <@Bahhumbug> Originating MXes will hold mail for 48+ hours if something is unreachable; if they don't... fuck 'em.  If people can't get their shit fixed in 48 hours... fuck 'em.
11:55 <@RangerZ> b/c i should take the time to figure out what is up with the lists on my end
11:56 <@RangerZ> Bahhumbug: I was just making a joke, I wasn't being serious, (though my joke wasn't as obvious now that I look at it, than it should have been)
11:56 <@Bahhumbug> oddball: It may have been on-topic, however I don't care a bit.  I don't want anything from that lunatic polluting my infra.  She's a crazy bitch that should be in a straight-jacket.
11:57 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: Ok.  I've been going around and around with someone for the past couple weeks about the "necessity" of providing secndary mx services.
11:57 <@Bahhumbug> You pushed a button.  Sorry for jumping on you.
11:57 <@RangerZ> np
11:58 <@Wilpig> Bahhumbug: when I moved to jersey I had setup a second mail forwarder that would hold for 96 until I got my internet here stragiht then it dumped everything to me
11:58 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, sorta is.  I shouldn't have reacted the way I did.
11:58 <@Bahhumbug> Did it at least do address validation?
11:59 <@Bahhumbug> And for a corner case like that I can see it, sorta.
12:01 <@RangerZ> YAY meeting later today, I get to give interns work to do over the summer... BOO... I have to deal with interns over the summer...
12:02 <@RangerZ> lol
12:03 <@RangerZ> whats saddest part about dynDNS is that comcast is going to drive people to 'commercial' that way they can watch netflix more than 8 nights a month
12:04 <@RangerZ> and its statics are going to be eaten up quicker than I bet it realizes
12:05 <@oddball> You don't have to get a static IP addy with Comcast's business serivice.
12:05 <@Dagmar> Why would you *not* get them
12:05 <@oddball> In fact, they charge extra for it.  I think it was $10/month when I signed up.
12:05 <@oddball> Dagmar: Because it wasn't worth $120/year to me.
12:06 <@Dagmar> Ah
12:06 <@RangerZ> FCC just ruled that comcast can't say your 'cable modem rental fee' is a "service fee"
12:06 <@oddball> Especially when DynDNS was working just fine for free. :)
12:06 <@RangerZ> making people think it is FCC related
12:06 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I'm not sure that applies to us
12:06 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Here they're billing us for a modem rental fee whether we own the modem or not
12:06 <@Dagmar> *ahem*
12:07 <@RangerZ> ohh really?
12:07 <@oddball> Dagmar: NOt everyone... just you.
12:07 <@Dagmar> Well, they're charging me
12:07 <@oddball> You're special in their eyes. :p
12:07 <@Dagmar> I'm about to go make a visit to fucking Fountain Square over this
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12:08 <@RangerZ> oddball: didn't they try to get you to pay the $7/mo when you got commercial level, and then you had to convince them you didn't need it, etc?
12:09 <@Dagmar> Modem Lease
12:09 <@Dagmar> $8.0003/29-04/28
12:09 <@RangerZ> yeah, thats why I just ordered the modem today, b/c I was told I wouldn't have to pay the fee if i bought my own (when I went in to return my DVR unit)
12:10 <@RangerZ> had to kinda push the guy on it, but he finally said it
12:10 <@oddball> RangerZ: Yes.  Apparently it's a new thing for business class users to not have to rent modems.
12:11 <@RangerZ> I 'had' a deal where if I had triple play, and didn't have to pay for rental of modem, but when I canceled that shit when it ~2x in price after 'intro' rate... the rental fees started showing up
12:11 <@oddball> I didn't have to lean on them other than saying "umm... I own a modem that has been working on your system for years."
12:12 <@oddball> Oh... I think Comcast has been making people rent their modems if they want to use the VOIP service.
12:12 <@RangerZ> either way... a red warning light is going to go off at comcast customer support when dagmar is dialing
12:12 <@Dagmar> No, it should be going off *right now*
12:13 <@Dagmar> Becuase I am seriously considering going back over there for lunch today
12:13 <@Dagmar> THis is fucking ridiculous
12:13 <@oddball> I did have to lean on them pretty hard about a service charge for "initial install," though.
12:13 <@RangerZ> ohh fuck them... in a login loop on their page
12:14 <@oddball> Up to and including me telling them the amount of work that is required on their end to move me from "residential" to "business."
12:17 <@Dagmar> I'm going straight to burning someone through the phone right now
12:17 <@oddball> Heh... Naienko's mom and step-father recently moved.  I was there when they were on the phone with Comcast.  Comcast failed to tell them that "self installation" was an option until I told them to ask specifically about it.
12:18 <@Dagmar> I tried to call them up, and as usual, if you have an outstanding balance, it tries to refuse to connect you to someone until you've paid up
12:18 <@Dagmar> I'm not paying them a fucking penny until they stop this shit
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12:35 <@Dagmar> Apparently they're waiting on a supervisor to "review" the ticket for approval before they remove the fee going all the way back to September.
12:35 <@Dagmar> Fuckers.
12:35 <@Dagmar> One more fucking time and I'll switch to AT&T out of spite
12:39 <@oddball> Oh... ummm.... ATT DSL/uVerse is worse.
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12:42 <@Dagmar> Perhaps they're more amenable to abuse
12:44 <@RangerZ> I would have switched already but AT&T can only get me 500 kilobits/second or something BS like that
12:45 <@RangerZ> sorry "max of 756k"
12:46 <@Corydon76-home> I'm about ready to just cut off the TV service entirely
12:46 <@oddball> RangerZ: No uVerse in your area?
12:47 <@oddball> ATT is stupid and doesn't list DSL and uVerse together.
12:47 <@RangerZ> that 'is' their uverse
12:47 <@RangerZ> b/c 256kbits/second is STILL "high speed"
12:49 <@Dolemite> I had vDSL when I had uVerse in Smyrna.  Way higher speeds.  I think it was 12 Mbps shared between video and data, with data capped at 6 Mbps.  It has been nearly 4 years since I had it, so those numbers are just to the best of my recollection.
12:50 <@RangerZ> I live up in the middle of a 'nice' bubble in East Nashville
12:53 <@RangerZ> fuckers just hung up on me....
12:53 <@RangerZ> I just want google fiber to come in here
12:54 <@oddball> RangerZ: ummm... that doesn't match up with when I shopped for my sister in Green Hills a few months back at all.
12:54 <@oddball> ...or their current website...
12:55 <@RangerZ> i finally got on the site, it was my 3rd party cookies, their cookies are screwy
12:55 <@RangerZ> I don't allow 3rd party cookies by default
12:55 <@oddball> Hell, the uVerse section of their website doesn't list anything lower than 3Mbps down.
12:55 <@RangerZ> yep, it won't, until you call and give them my address
12:56 <@oddball> So... no uVerse, just DSL.
12:56 <@oddball> That sucks.
13:14 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: What... 4 b-channels isn't fast enough for you?
13:19 <@RangerZ> yeah...
13:21 <@RangerZ> so you can't have your own modem and a static with comcast
13:21 <@RangerZ> interesting...
13:21 <@Dagmar> Not directly, but as I understand it it's correct
13:21 <@Shadow404> what sucks is cacert is no longer supported by i.e. , ff and chrome
13:21 <@Shadow404> some political bs
13:22 <@Dagmar> What, as a root signer?
13:22 <@Shadow404> aye
13:22 <@Dagmar> Was it _ever_?
13:22 <@Shadow404> have u seen the warnings on chrome
13:22 <@Dagmar> I don't recall ever being able to use a CACert-signed cert without telling the browser to accept it
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13:25 <@RangerZ> never used it before
13:25 <@Dagmar> As far as I know you have to install the CACert signing cert in the browser before those warnings will ever go away
13:26 <@Mirage> Shadow404: last certs I bought were from AlphaSSL (www.alphassl.com)
13:27 <@Shadow404> yeah, keyword bought
13:27 <@Shadow404> thats why i like cacert
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13:27 <@Mirage> And as to CACert..I didn't think that they were ever accepted by any of the browsers by default.
13:28 <@Shadow404> but apparently cacert got put on a warning list due to a failed audit
13:28 <@Shadow404> was bound to happen
13:28 <@Mirage> Shadow404: $49/yr for an ssl cert.  that's nothing.
13:28 <@RangerZ> I've never bothered with PGP or anything, or ring of trust in general
13:31 <@Wilpig> $49/yr is $49.  Mirage... now that's as classic a nothing as I have ever seen
13:32 <@Mirage> Wilpig: Compared to what other places charge, $49 is change you found laying on the ground or in your couch.
13:33 <@RangerZ> honestly, I've never understood why you can't get a free one from the government by showing proof of ID
13:33 <@RangerZ> 'this is my company' 'this kill will go to my company's site', etc
13:33 <@RangerZ> oh wait... logic
13:33 <@RangerZ> sorry
13:33 <@RangerZ> forgot
13:33 <@Mirage> The volume pricing we got at VU was what..$250 for a 2-yr cert.
13:34 <@RangerZ> comodo is 31$/year
13:34 <@RangerZ> its what YSU uses
13:34 <@RangerZ> though I don't know about wildcard certs, etc
13:35 <@Mirage> RangerZ: are those signed by a trusted root, or do you have to install an intermediate chain?
13:35 <@Mirage> I got the AlphaSSL cert because it's natively accepted by all the major browsers..and cell carriers.
13:36 <@RangerZ> offhand, I don't know. I just know thats what the CSIS dept had to pay per cert
13:36 <@Mirage> With the CACert I had before, it was hit/miss on checking my home email.  I never could get my phone to properly install and trust the root CA from CACert
13:37 <@Dagmar> You *must* use a PIN code to unlock your phone now before you're allowed to actually modify it's keystore
13:37 <@Dagmar> Swipe to unlock prevents you from having custom certs as well as prevents encfs usage
13:38 <@RangerZ> even being able to add to rootCA is a new feature at all, isn't it?
13:38 <@Dagmar> Well, it's a thing you can do now without having to root the phone and learn how to use keytool
13:39 <@RangerZ> thats what I meant
13:39 <@Dagmar> In that case, yes.
13:45 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: lol
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13:45 <@Corydon76-home> What?
13:45 <@Dagmar> The comment about being paid to suck cock
13:47 <@Corydon76-home> Well, I've been doing it for free all these years.  Who knew you could get paid to do that?
13:48 <@Dagmar> heheh
13:49 <@Corydon76-home> On a somewhat more serious note (but not completely), if I could be a fluffer on a porn set for a week, I'd do it.
13:56 <@Corydon76-home> On a different note, some spammer resumed a pump-and-dump scheme over the weekend.  My spam load tripled.
14:04 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: weird.  My spam ratio dropped significantly over the weekend.
14:13 <@shapr> SHAZAM!
14:13  * shapr turns into a superhero
14:14 <@Dagmar> Time to find out how much Mav's friends know about Australia
14:14 <@Dagmar> They're discussing Sydney as a travel destination and I warned them that quokka antivenin isn't very reliable.
14:14 <@Mirage> Mav..as in Coleman?
14:14 <@Dagmar> Yes.
14:14 <@Mirage> He actually show up to a meeting or soemthing?
14:14 <@Dagmar> Quokka's being some of Australia's few harmless animals
14:15 <@Dagmar> er Quokkas
14:15 <@Dagmar> No, I keep up with him on FB
14:15 <@Mirage> Ah
14:15 <@Dagmar> http://deathandtaxesmag.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/quokka9.jpg
14:15 <@Dagmar> Note the cheeks.
14:16 <@Dagmar> They hide giant venom sacs and have been known to spray acidic venom at people from up to 15 yards.
14:16 <@Dagmar> ;)
14:16 <@Dagmar> That "grin" is them preparing to strike
14:17 <@Dagmar> Gaines wife says I'm worse than some of their neighbors for leading people on about made up wildlife hazards
14:17 <@Mirage> That's how they bait their prey..=)
14:17 <@shapr> dropbears?
14:18 <@Dagmar> Nope.  Those are just koalas who've gotten too fucked up on eucalyptus, actually.
14:18 <@shapr> oh, ok then
14:18 <@Dagmar> Quokkas are just naturally sheepish-looking mammals
14:18 <@Dagmar> Venomous spiders as big as your face?  Check.
14:19 <@Dagmar> Venomous snakes that grow long enough to bite you *and* crush you to death?  Check.
14:19 <@Dagmar> Tigers?  Lions?  oh my.  Check.
14:20 <@Dagmar> Scorpions?  Oh yes.  Very check.  There's fucking _ants_ that can strip a guy to bones in under three hours.
14:20 <@Dagmar> With this in mind it's very easy to convince something that everything there is lethal, because there's only about a 20% chance it's not.
14:20 <@Dagmar> s/something/someone/
14:20 <@Dagmar> 18% of that is cane toads.
14:42 <@shapr> tasty tho
14:42 <@shapr> Anyone here into continuation passing style?
14:47 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: looking into the stock scam, looks like somebody shorted a bunch of the stock last week, then sold it all this morning for a 50% profit
14:48 <@Corydon76-home> Or bought it back, whatever
14:48 <@Corydon76-home> Either that or someone is desperately trying to rid themselves of their shares
14:49 <@Corydon76-home> The stock was stable at $0.30 until sometime last week, when it started dropping
14:50 <@Corydon76-home> http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=RCHA+Interactive#symbol=RCHA;range=5d
14:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: RICH PHARMACEUTICALS Stock Chart | RCHA Interactive Chart - Yahoo! Finance (at finance.yahoo.com)
15:20 <@Dagmar> *shakeshead*
15:20 <@Dagmar> Some of these car dealers should probably not post ads on Craigslist after smoking a bowl
15:21 <@Dagmar> One is asking $19999 for a 2010 fortwo passion.
15:21 <@Dagmar> That's only like $4k more than a brand new one
15:21 <@Dagmar> ...and theirs is yellow.
15:22 <@aestetix> vagina
15:22 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar:  non-convertible?  The convertibles are quite a bit more expensive.
15:23 <@Dagmar> They're not even $20,000 new
15:25 <@Corydon76-home> Heh
15:25 <@Dagmar> http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-smart-fortwo-Nashville-d1040_L33019#listing=81244706
15:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Used smart fortwo For Sale Nashville, TN - CarGurus (at www.cargurus.com)
15:25 <@Dagmar> That one's $9,977
15:26 <@Dagmar> ...and *is* a convertible
15:27 <@Corydon76-home> If you load it up on features, you can get the price to go north of $23k
15:28 <@Dagmar> Some of their features are ridiculous
15:28 <@Corydon76-home> You mean like surround sound?
15:28 <@Dagmar> lol
15:28 <@Dagmar> No, I mean like, heated seats
15:29 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: do you prefer the guys you fuck to lay face up or face down?
15:29 <@Dagmar> Extra shiny wiper blades
15:29 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I use heated seats all the time in the winter
15:29 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: Still work hours
15:29 <@aestetix> heh
15:29 <@aestetix> ok
15:29 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: do you prefer the guys you f*ck to lay face up or face down?
15:30 <@Dagmar> This thing still has the stock plastic branded hubcaps
15:30 <@Dagmar> http://nashville.craigslist.org/ctd/4411356272.html
15:30 <@GateKeeper> Title: 2010 smart Fortwo Passion - Great Deals On Used Cars (at nashville.craigslist.org)
15:30 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I'd be far more inclined to buy http://nashville.craigslist.org/ctd/4368788589.html but I like the other convertible better ebcasue it's _all_ black
15:30 <@GateKeeper> Title: 2013 Smart ForTwo Passion Clean Title, Clean Carfax! (at nashville.craigslist.org)
15:31 <@Corydon76-home> Heh, not even leather interior.  Yeah, that dealer is either smoking crack, or they got fucked with a lemon
15:31 <@Dolemite> aestetix: I think he's fine with whichever position is more comfortable for you
15:31 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: I do recall saying at the start that they were smoking something
15:31 <@Dagmar> Maybe it has a large brick of cocaine under the seat
15:32 <@aestetix> Dolemite: which do you prefer?
15:32 <@Corydon76-home> Well, the prices are usually based upon how much the dealer had to put in to the vehicle to get it in saleable condition, then add a healthy markup from there.
15:32 <@Corydon76-home> So yeah, I suspect the dealer got fucked with a lemon
15:33 <@Dolemite> aestetix: I wouldn't know, as I don't fuck other guys.  However, what I stated works just fine with my wife, too.
15:33 <@Dagmar> "BRABUS" is apparently German for "sucker-bait"
15:33 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: another possibility is that the dealership is a front for laundering money, and the high price is guaranteed to ensure that only the intended buyer picks it up
15:34 <@Dagmar> COuld be
15:34 <@aestetix> Dolemite: have you ever done DP with her?
15:35 <@Corydon76-home> Well, it's on Dickerson Pike, so that possibility just went up
15:36 <@Dolemite> aestetix: I only have 1 penis, so no, but she's quite happy with how I use it.
15:36 <@Mirage> aestetix: could you possibly keep this stupid shit in private mesages only?
15:37 <@Dolemite> ok, time to get out of here.  Later, kiddos.
15:37 <@Corydon76-home> Later, Dol
15:38 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: I think you're missing the point, which is to annoy the fuck out of people
15:38 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: and educate
15:47 <@Dagmar> For your entertainment http://youtu.be/newNF1UsOcw
15:47 <@GateKeeper> Title: Samsung Galaxy S5 Hammer Test Fail - YouTube (at youtu.be)
15:55 <@Dagmar> He made the battery *angry*
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16:42 <@Wilpig> someone zero'd out my flash drive.  fuckers.
16:43 <@aestetix> penis
16:59 <@Dagmar> Fucking users
17:00 <@Dagmar> They want to transition from the old hosting to the new one on Thursday
17:00 <@Dagmar> However...
17:00 <@Dagmar> 1. This is all SSL.
17:00 <@Dagmar> 2. They have 11 separate subdomains.
17:00 <@Dagmar> 3. They also want to filter out ITAR-embargoed countries.
17:00 <@Wilpig> but from their standpoint that isn't an issue because it's all magic
17:00 <@Dagmar> *sigh*
17:01 <@Dagmar> I can't say you're wrong.
17:01  * Wilpig waives a wand at Dagmar 
17:02 <@Wilpig> do you do coin tricks too?  balloon animals?
17:02 <@Dagmar> I could make all of it happen if... 1. I had the damn cert or certs, and 2. I had a fucking clue which set of nations they're trying to block
17:02 <@Wilpig> how many goths can you fit into a clown car?
17:04 <@Dagmar> Hell if I know
17:05 <@Dagmar> https://www.countryipblocks.net/country_selection.php this might be handy to someone else
17:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: CIPB - Create Country ACL (at www.countryipblocks.net)
17:08 <@Wilpig> i've used that before
17:23 <@Dagmar> I have to share this
17:24 <@Dagmar> https://forums.craigslist.org/?act=Q&ID=246758805
17:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: forums - craigslist (at forums.craigslist.org)
17:25 <@Dagmar> That's the last thing I can stand to post to https://forums.craigslist.org/?ID=246758805
17:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: forums - craigslist (at forums.craigslist.org)
17:25 <@Dagmar> Dude is retarded and trying to tell me what hacking and a hacker is
17:26 <@Dagmar> Like, dafuq... Does he have any fucking idea who he's talking to?  Clearly not.
17:27 <@Dagmar> He's quoting shit from documentaries at me
17:28 <@Corydon76-work> At some point, you're going to start getting concerned about high blood pressure and realize that watching these forums is only making your doctor anxious.
17:28 <@Dagmar> No, I'll kill a few of them first.
17:29 <@Corydon76-work> I'm about at the age to start being concerned about heart attacks.  You ought to, as well.
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17:33 <@Dagmar> By now you should know I'm one of those stubborn fuckers who'll show up at the ER beating his own chest to keep blood pumping
17:35 <@Dagmar> ...and based on the amount of training I got during the 90's, my heart's probably good for another 200 years.
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18:42 <@Bahhumbug> Bend over and lube up.
18:42 <@Bahhumbug> http://heartbleed.com/
18:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Heartbleed Bug (at heartbleed.com)
18:42 <@Bahhumbug> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1084875
18:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Bug 1084875 CVE-2014-0160 openssl: information disclosure in handling of TLS heartbeat extension packets (at bugzilla.redhat.com)
18:48 <@Dagmar> Yep
18:52 <@RangerZ> yeah
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19:03 <@RangerZ> oddball, how about I give you 5$ to install my business class comcast ;) LOL
19:08 <@RangerZ> (got my quotes for new service
19:08 <@RangerZ> )*
19:08 <@RangerZ> 99$ 'installation' fee
19:11 <@oddball> Jesus.  I think they told me $60 installation fee.
19:14 <@Dagmar> Yeah one of the reasons I'm _very_ sure I own my own modem was that the guy who came to do the functionality check from the "self-installation" was upset with me that he made the call, and I told him "yes, it's up"
19:15 <@Dagmar> He wanted to login to my server.
19:15 <@Dagmar> *blink-blink*
19:15 <@Dagmar> Guy didn't know Linux.
19:15 <@RangerZ> lol
19:15 <@RangerZ> mine is on the way today
19:16 <@Dagmar> I'm like "There is no GUI on this machine, man.  it doesn't even have a video card in it.  You can't just guess your way through that."
19:16 <@Dagmar> I'm dumpin' raw packets to the screen and stuff for him
19:17 <@RangerZ> I'd love to borrow a rack of networking gear, and servers, and then roll it into your bedroom, and start it up, and then have a 'follow the wire' game as the tech tries to figure out why you aren't his boss
19:17 <@Dagmar> Well, I knew I just wildly sort of "outranked" the tech, I was trying to make things as easy for him as possible
19:18 <@Dagmar> Dunno why he'd be miffed that he could go goof off someplace for the next 40 minutes at least
19:19 <@Dagmar> He made the call, and in a rare momoent of alacrity, Comcast lit it up in three minutes flat
19:19 <@RangerZ> yeah, people don't like feeling like they aren't top dog in the room, well, people who aren't used to being grad students at vandy... b/c you get mentally/academically bitch slapped daily :/
19:19 <@RangerZ> LOL
19:19 <@Dagmar> ...and I wasn't just assuming he didn't know Linux, I asked him after I saw the confused look in his eyes at a guy with a laptop and two headless boxes, and nothing even like a screen
19:20 <@Dagmar> Now if he was ninja, he would have showed up with a smartphone
19:21 <@RangerZ> yep
19:22 <@RangerZ> and "it took an hour to fix this setup"
19:22 <@RangerZ> hehe
19:22 <@Dagmar> I understand minimum billable time
19:22 <@Dagmar> I was happy to sign off on the rest of the appointment
19:23 <@RangerZ> of the cable monkeys i know, only the crap ones _stay_ doing cable installs
19:23 <@Dagmar> It did not help that about 45 seconds of that was me reconfiguring the iptables ruleset and running a bunch of scripted diagnostics
19:24 <@Dagmar> So... deeply arcane gobbledygook on the screen, followed by seven different new and exciting flavors
19:25 <@Dagmar> I'll bet he thought I was shitting him about pathchar
19:25 <@Wilpig> my favorite was getting them out to do speed tests while I had the realtime traffic graph on teh screen up
19:25 <@Dagmar> hehe
19:25 <@Wilpig> when their cached test was showin gthe burst speed plus compressed data, etc I had the real number up
19:26 <@RangerZ> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/04/07/1859246/sf-evictions-surging-from-crackdown-on-airbnb-rentals
19:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: SF Evictions Surging From Crackdown On Airbnb Rentals - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org)
19:26 <@RangerZ> such BS
19:26 <@Wilpig> asked him to explain the real number vs that nonsense on the screen then kicked him out
19:26 <@RangerZ> friend lived out of a fucking walk-in closet in san fran, b/c of how limited space was there
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19:41 <@RangerZ> http://www.gizmag.com/nanodot-smartphone-battery-30-second-recharge/31467/ I don't care if the damn thing is that big
19:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: Nanodot-based smartphone battery that recharges in 30 seconds (at www.gizmag.com)
19:42 <@RangerZ> if I can buy a battery that recharges that fast for my laptop...
19:48 <@Shadow404> heh, in the future will have recharching spots that we just tap for a full charge
20:03 <@RangerZ> Shadow404: stop confusing your girl's rear and batteries
20:20 <@Wilpig> https://github.com/airbnb/javascript#semicolons
20:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: airbnb/javascript · GitHub (at github.com)
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21:11 < notlarry> ok, I'm not trying to be difficult, but when I ask a
21:12 < notlarry> when I ask a "computer operator" what mainframe terminal they are connecting to, I expect to get something in the "3xxx" vein.
21:12 < notlarry> instead the start throwing acronyms at me.  *sigh*
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21:32 <@oddball> Was it at least "I'm connected to this server?"
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21:51 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: In the event you care CentOS has interim updates syncing to the mirrors now that address this and will be a drop-in for RHEL6.5 boxen as well.  Red Hat's update will be version bumped from this so it will supercede when released.
21:51 <@Bahhumbug> And a quick and dirty test: echo -e "quit\n" | openssl s_client -connect google.com:443 -tlsextdebug 2>&1| grep 'TLS server extension "heartbeat" (id=15), len=1'
21:52 <@Bahhumbug> (replace google, obviously)
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22:47 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJgwzdLcgL8
22:47 <@GateKeeper> Title: All Hail the Beat - Nelson George - GE FOCUS FORWARD - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:48 <@Mirage> Short documentary on the Roland TR-808
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