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00:00 <@oddball> Dagmar: Actually, flinging your arms out during kicks tend to detract from the strength of the kick, not increase it.
00:00 <@Dagmar> "There's more where that came from"
00:00 <@shapr> On the other hand, I don't know any other martial arts well, so I could be full of shit :-)
00:00 <@shapr> oddball: unless your arms are untwisting?
00:00 <@Dagmar> oddball: You do *lots* of twisting in the middle with your legs and your arms going in opposite directions.
00:01 <@Dagmar> Afaik mostly you get that going and then just start directing the momentum
00:01 <@oddball> shapr: if they're untwisting in the same direction of the kick? then you're good.  against the direction of the kick and you're fighting yourself.
00:01 <@shapr> er
00:01  * shapr thinks about that
00:01 <@Dagmar> What'd I say about full body coordination
00:02 <@shapr> When I'm in ginga, my bottom and top halves are twisted in different directions
00:02 <@shapr> ya know, this would be SO much easier to do if I were in Nashville
00:03 <@Dagmar> oddball: In practice it's *much* easier when you retain your balance
00:03 <@Dagmar> Like, *much* easier
00:03 <@oddball> Take the video that Dagmar posted... where she reaches down and touches the ground to do the spin kicks, her upper body is moving with the kick.  A lot of the standing kicks, she's flinging her arms against the kick.
00:03 <@Dagmar> She's twisting in the middle all the way
00:03 <@shapr> can you give me a time in the video where she does that?
00:04 <@oddball> Dagmar: And that's part of why I keep my hands in and in front of me when doing spin kicks. :)
00:04 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: have you ever peed in someone's ass?
00:04 <@Dagmar> You know how if you stand up and stick your arms out to the side and then sling your upper body counter clockwise ,at a certain point your midsection flexes and you sort of bounce back?
00:05 <@Dagmar> Like you've twisted as far as you're going to go
00:05 <@Dagmar> ..and the momentum carries you a little farther and you stretch
00:05 <@oddball> shapr: example: the front kick she does at rough 0.50, she throws her right hand down as she throws the kick.
00:06 <@shapr> well, that kick is actually done correctly by reaching both arms forward, and pulling them back as hard as you can while snapping one foot forward
00:06 <@shapr> I usually snap forward hard enough to turn it into a cartwheel
00:06 <@shapr> it's pretty much a fast hard push kick
00:06 <@Dagmar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzChPctqAP4
00:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Capoeira Tricks - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:07 <@Dagmar> Note how much _momentum_ they build up and then maintain
00:07 <@shapr> oddball: Most other kicks happen by untwisting the top and bottom halves of your body
00:07 <@oddball> Also, the standing round houses she does at 1:00.  She's twisting her body in the opposite direction of the kick.
00:07 <@Dagmar> It gains speed
00:08 <@Dagmar> If you try to throw your leg out, you've got two options
00:08 <@oddball> Not really, not.
00:08 <@Dagmar> The fu way where your whole body is basically a kinetic anchor weight...
00:08 <@Dagmar> ...becuase your'e trying to brace to put "force" into the kick
00:08 <@shapr> oddball: armada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1iJ_pBo-Isc#t=59
00:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: How to Do the Armada | Capoeira - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:09 <@Dagmar> The capo method is the _other_ way, where the rest of you is a _counterweight_
00:09 <@Dagmar> You're using flex and momentum instead of trying to use something solid as a kinetic sink
00:10 <@oddball> shapr: ok... that video is much closer to the mechanics I'm used to.
00:11 <@oddball> Looks very similar to a spin crescent kick in TKD.
00:11 <@Dagmar> The editing in this is hateful but you can see the midsection twisting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHshU-8h6qA
00:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Capoeira Master - Cat Man - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:11 <@oddball> And when he does the break down, the foot work of the actual kick and body movement is damn near identical.
00:11 <@Dagmar> Watch his middrif when he puts his hands down and starts tisting his legs
00:12 <@Dagmar> er twisting
00:13 <@oddball> shapr: Yes... clearly, we need to get together at some point and share notes. :)
00:13 <@Dagmar> Instead of bracing against the floor, they leverage the momentum of their other end
00:13 <@Dagmar> shapr can show you if he makes it to PN.
00:13 <@Dagmar> I'm complete crap at it now
00:13 <@Dagmar> ...and I make weird crunchy noises
00:14 <@Dagmar> A whole lot of things pop
00:14 <@Dagmar> heheh
00:14 <@oddball> Dagmar: I think part of it is that I was talking about two kicks that the guy in the "cat man" vid didn't do.
00:14 <@Dagmar> I was citing that one because you can see he is twisting in the middle through half of them, and then _unwinding_ that
00:15 <@Dagmar> It loads up a ton of KE
00:15 <@Dagmar> ...which, once you've got it, is much easier to redirect than it is to stop and start over and over
00:15 <@oddball> And I'm not saying that those kicks are "wrong."  I'm guessing there's a reason for that art to do it that way.  Just saying that they do it differantly than I've seen in anything else.
00:15 <@Dagmar> It's a different approach
00:16 <@oddball> right
00:16 <@oddball> It loses power, but may be gaining in something else that I can't see.
00:16 <@Dagmar> It might be good to teach students to make every blow count, but if you back off on that a bit you can get 80% of the force just from sheer leverage
00:16 <@Dagmar> _Repetition_
00:17 <@Dagmar> If a dude is already _spinning bodily_ instead of just arcing one limb, guess what happens when he follows through
00:17 <@Dagmar> The _other_ leg is right there... and guess what?  It was already as far as it could be from the opponent when it started
00:17 <@oddball> When you start getting into the spinning stuff, the movement is very close to most other styles.
00:18 <@Dagmar> The flips at the start of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AWMj6m-zUE
00:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Concurso Rei da Capoeira de Coburg 2011 (2. Parte do concurso:Sólo e Acrobacia) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:18 <@Dagmar> They *look* like they're really working hard at that
00:18 <@Dagmar> It's actually much less effort than it appears
00:19 <@oddball> Dagmar: Right.  I'm talking about a straight kick or a standing round house where you return to your original position (no spin).
00:19 <@Dagmar> So what if you weren't interested in _stopping_ at that position
00:19 <@Dagmar> You don't have to really expend the effort to stop it if you just redirect it slightly
00:19 <@oddball> Then you're discussing a different kick that what I'm discussing.
00:20 <@Dagmar> These crazy island styles don't work the same way
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00:20 <@Dagmar> It's more like a whip cracking motion
00:21 <@Dagmar> Those chains of flips wouldn't be humanly possible if they were trying to _stop_
00:22 <@oddball> well.. since I have to get up early, and clearly the other person that actually knows what the fuck their talking about has wandered off, I'm going to bed.
00:22 <@shapr> Yeah, I'll try to show up PN
00:22 <@Dagmar> *g*
00:22 <@Dagmar> We can sit around and go "Back in the day..."
00:22 <@shapr> I'm not that great at Capoiera, but I have the basic ideas together, and I can do some of the moves
00:23 <@oddball> shapr: Please do... and if you want, I'll bring my sticks and show you some escrima. :)
00:23 <@Dagmar> I just liked to dance and an energy-efficient style is a necessary thing if you intend to see the sun rise
00:24 <@Dagmar> If you're sloppy or fight yourself... .blech.  Exhaustion
00:28 <@Dagmar> shapr: Aha.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6-f6kO-IsA
00:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: Capoeira - Acrobatics - Macaco - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:29 <@Dagmar> So that's the thing I literally just _realized_ I could do while I was on LSD one night
00:29 <@Dagmar> hehe
00:29 <@klixa> i need some of whatever Dagmar is on right now
00:29 <@Dagmar> No you don't.  There's waaaay too many keys on your keyboard.
00:29 <@Dagmar> ...and they won't fucking sit still.
00:30 <@klixa> lol
00:30 <@Dagmar> I also figured out I could put the first hand down and repivot my lower body while it was up and it just looked awesome
00:31 <@Dagmar> I would not try a backflip because I was pretty sure I would land on my face
00:32  * klixa 's keys light up...
00:32 <@Dagmar> G510
00:32 < aestetix> klixa: has anyone ever peed inside you?
00:32 <@Dagmar> *eyepinch*
00:33 <@klixa> aestetix: yes... because babies pee in utero
00:33 <@klixa> and i was pregnant once
00:34 <@Dagmar> Another reason I was very fond of thta stuff was _crap knees_
00:34 <@Dagmar> You get to keep your goddamn legs straight
00:34 < aestetix> wait
00:34 < aestetix> do babies poop in utero too?
00:34 <@Dagmar> No.
00:35 <@Dagmar> Nothing to go through the digestive tract
00:35 <@klixa> aestetix: they can..its called myconium when they do and can be very dangerous...but typically no
00:35 <@klixa> meconium*
00:35 <@Dagmar> I ain't googling it to see if it's spelled right
00:35 <@Dagmar> Nope.
00:36 < aestetix> so wait
00:36 < aestetix> if a baby pees in utero
00:36 < aestetix> does it spend the rest of the time wallowing in its own pee?
00:36 <@klixa> aestetix: yes
00:36 <@klixa> mpst of the amniotic fluid is baby urine
00:37 < aestetix> do babies puke too?
00:38 <@klixa> not that  i know of..and from what i can tell they dont really puke after borth either...they *spit up* which does smell icky and have sotmache acid in it...but its nothing like an adult's puke
00:39 < aestetix> isn't their poo after birth also wet and slimy?
00:39 <@Dagmar> They never have to say... "When the hell did I eat _corn_?"
00:39 <@klixa> aestetix: yeah, thats the mecomium
00:39 <@klixa> aestetix: its very tar-like
00:39 <@klixa> they poop that the first few days...then it turns green, then from then on its yellow until they start eating solid food
00:42 < aestetix> sounds like it looks just like baby food
00:44 < aestetix> klixa: do babies fart too? or just poo
00:44 <@klixa> they fart...and it seems to make them super happy
00:44 <@klixa> they smile/laugh most of the time they do it
00:45 < aestetix> do they poop a lot?
00:45 < aestetix> like is it sleep, poop, sleep, poop?
00:46 <@klixa> well, some days they dont poop at all...other days about 3x
00:46 <@Dagmar> aestetix: What else is there to do when you're two feet tall and don't know about fingers yet
00:46 <@klixa> i change about 5 diapers a day on average, of both kind
00:46 < aestetix> god
00:46 <@klixa> they do more than sleep, poop and pee
00:47 <@Dagmar> I like watching them figure things out
00:47 <@klixa> she likes to stand up (wiht me holding her hands, but her legs can support her), she giigles, wtaches tv, plays with the ipad, plays with strings, cords, stuffed animals, likes to listent to music...and shes only about to be 5 months old
00:48 <@klixa> and she likes to *talk* (no actual words, but she is talking)
00:49 <@klixa> Dagmar: yeah, watching them figure things out is cool... she looks just like my father when shes in that state of mind
00:49 <@Dagmar> I like how the facial expressions start happening before actual words
00:50 <@Dagmar> Super srs face. Utter nonsense coming out of the mouth.
00:50 <@klixa> lol
00:50 <@Dagmar> They know they should make "this" face and sounds should come out of their mouth and maybe a change in pitch
00:50 <@Dagmar> That's all.
00:50 <@Dagmar> Hilarity
00:51 <@klixa> im laughing thinking about it now...like out loud real life
00:51 <@klixa> she soo does that
00:52 <@Dagmar> I remember relly getting someone peeved at me for having an extensive conversation about philosophy with their one year old
00:53 <@klixa> that would be the most awesome thing ever
00:53 <@Dagmar> They took the baby back.  :(
00:53 <@klixa> i don't think I like those people Dagmar
00:53 <@Dagmar> It was fine by me because there was a bit of pooping going on about a minute later.  Heh
00:54 <@Dagmar> But clearly the kid was enjoying having a conversation and my ears move
00:54 <@Dagmar> or rather enjoying pretending to have a conversation
00:54 <@Dagmar> NInd you these people's judgement was slightly questionable
00:55 <@Dagmar> They _almost_ left me unsupervised with the child in a room with an unused ceiling fan mount and bungee cords
00:55 <@klixa> the baby was probaly like "finally someone who uses actual words and doesn't use made up ones like boo  boo"
00:55 <@Dagmar> Could have been
00:55 <@Dagmar> Id' have had that kid playing moon bounce in a hot second
00:57 <@Dagmar> The only thing I don't like about the <1yr ones is that EARS ARE NOT TOYS
00:57 <@Dagmar> They are not handles either
00:58 <@klixa> Moon Bounce™ (this idea was not stolen from Dagmar)
00:58 <@klixa> $49.95
00:58 <@Dagmar> No, what I had in mind was more along the lines of "child dangling from ceiling with just enough slack to barely touch the floor"
00:59 <@Dagmar> Then you pull them to one side of the room.  :)
00:59 <@Dagmar> ...and let go.
00:59 <@Dagmar> Because PHYSICS
00:59 <@klixa> hmm... thats more like slingshot™
00:59 <@Dagmar> Keep in mind you have to pull them _down_
01:00 <@Dagmar> I understand this to not actually be responsible behaviour
01:00 <@Dagmar> Kid will fly across room, cord will _not_ stretch far enough for them to hit the floor, and then they bounce back
01:00 <@Dagmar> Note: CEILING HOOK IN *CENTER* OF ROOM ONLY
01:00 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, someone's going to have some explaining to do
01:01 <@Dagmar> Personally I consider it safer than just throwing a child into the air untethered.
01:02 <@klixa> my stomache drops when i see people do that
01:02 <@Dagmar> klixa: Physics.  Like taking a car antenna and pulling it waaaay over and touching it to the tip of your nose and letting go
01:03 <@Dagmar> It'll never hit you in the nose
01:04 <@klixa> that reminds me...have you seen the video where they have the tennis ball on a slinky?
01:06 <@Dagmar> Heh.  Nifty
01:07 <@Dagmar> I can't say I care for their explanation tho http://www.philly.com/philly/video/Slinky_Drop_With_Tennis_Ball.html
01:07 <@GateKeeper> Title: Slinky Drop With Tennis Ball (at www.philly.com)
01:07 <@Dagmar> The slinky _is_ supporting the weight of the tennis ball
01:07 <@Dagmar> It's continually trying to compress
01:08 <@Dagmar> It compressing keeps the tennis ball lifting becuase it's countering the accelleration of gravity
01:08 <@Dagmar> The slinky has _stored_ KE by stretching
01:09 <@Dagmar> That KE keeps the bottom end of the slinky in the air while it compresses
01:09 <@Dagmar> BY the same token if you're pulling a child to the side of a room and _down_ when they reach the other side, they _can't_ bounce further down
01:10 <@Dagmar> ...and the don't bounce further across either
01:11 < aestetix> ok so
01:11 < aestetix> I keep seeing all these photos of conferences where the mens bathroom line is out the hallway, and there is no womens bathroom line
01:11 <@Dagmar> I have also learned you _never_ teach a child it's first word unless it's your child.  lol
01:11 < aestetix> is there any conference where that's the opposite?
01:12 <@Dagmar> Of course not.
01:12 <@Dagmar> One of them will come in and declare "I CLAIM THIS BATHROOM IN THE NAME OF WOMANHOOD" and all the guys have to go find some trees
01:12 <@Dagmar> ...and exactly none of the guys emit a high pitched scream, most of the time.
01:13 <@Dagmar> klixa: Seriously.  This girl I knew in college.  SOOO upset with me
01:13 <@Dagmar> lol
01:13 <@Dagmar> Kid was just ready to talk
01:13 <@klixa> lol
01:14 <@klixa> what _was_ the first word?
01:14 <@Dagmar> Mama
01:14 <@klixa> wait... then why was she mad
01:14 <@Dagmar> 'cuz she'd been trying to get the kid to talk all week
01:14 <@Dagmar> I spent less than 20 minutes playing with him.
01:15 <@Dagmar> He would make a noise, I'd make the same noise.
01:15 <@Dagmar> He caught onto that real quick
01:15 <@Dagmar> "Make the same noise" is something they can figure out
01:15 <@Dagmar> Who goes first is a little unclear
01:16 <@Dagmar> But she was in the kitchen and didn't see the kid
01:16 <@Dagmar> She just heard me go "Hey you said 'mama'" and me babbling it back at the kid
01:16 <@Dagmar> heheheh
01:17 <@klixa> :)
01:17 <@Dagmar> I swear I didn't mean to
01:17 <@Dagmar> hehe
01:18 <@klixa> babies are very quick learners...most people dont take advanatge of that
01:20 <@Dagmar> She taught him to say 'fuck'.  ;)
01:21 <@klixa> as often as i say fuck, that might be my  baby's first word lol
01:21 <@Dagmar> Not until they get teeth
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01:41 <@Dagmar> http://i.imgur.com/R9rnmXv.jpg
01:41 < LoTUs456> Aloha Everyone
01:49 < LoTUs456> How is everyone's night?
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07:02 < aestetix> vagina
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10:26 <@shapr> howdy klixa
10:26 <@klixa> morning shapr
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12:42 <@Dagmar> http://i.imgur.com/R9rnmXv.jpg ?
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16:46 < notlarry> ok, someone google this for me.  Using the raspberry pi as a firewall will it process fast enough to not produce lag in games we are playing at the house?
16:50 <@brimstone> are you using vlans over its network card or did you add a usb network card?
16:51 < notlarry> I would add a usb network card to it.  No vlan's just traffic monitoring and maybe some qos.  I'm all of a sudden showing 300g of traffic and I do not know where it is going.
16:52 < notlarry> I went over last month for the first time since I started comcast 4 or 5 years ago and today I am about to go over again.  No one is on the network that I don't expect, and I have even disposed of one of the kids.
16:53 <@brimstone> i think you'll have better performance with two vlans on the onboard nic
16:53 <@brimstone> usb performance on the raspi is shit
16:53 <@brimstone> if you have the gear to send vlans to the raspi, you could probably get a span port sent over to it as well
16:54 <@brimstone> then it's not blocking your network traffic
16:55 < notlarry> k, I see what you are saying.  off to read up on vlans:)
17:04 <@brimstone> rasbian, two vlans and ntop is probably all you need
17:04 <@brimstone> if you're just trying to track down who's eating all of your Free Usage Tier
19:03 <@Dagmar> notlarry: For all intents and purposes, packet tossing is something your wristwatch could do.
19:04 <@Dagmar> The Raspberry Pi isn't going to add more than 6-7ms latency at most
19:22 <@Dagmar> damn http://imgur.com/gallery/ib6Kb
19:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: So I got a pre-generated Fedex print label, and they plain-texted my username and password in the URL - Imgur (at imgur.com)
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19:32 < aestetix> Thank you Ada Initiative for preventing videos like this from coming out: http://jezebel.com/this-video-brilliantly-skewers-the-idea-that-male-rape-1554407662
19:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: This Video Brilliantly Skewers the Idea That Male Rape is Hilarious (at jezebel.com)
19:40 <@Dagmar> THey're probably too busy being mad that someone's talking about something other than how men are bad people.
19:42 <@Dagmar> Fuuuuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1LGKieTxY
19:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Hazmat Highway to Hell with High Pressure Gas Cylinders (No Music) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
19:44 <@Dagmar> Holy fuck
19:44 <@Dagmar> Watch the _whole_ thing
19:45 < aestetix> men are not people
19:45 < aestetix> they are hairy mammals attached to penises
19:46 < aestetix> Just ask anarchival
19:46 <@Dagmar> Holy shit balls that video is creepy
19:46  * Wilpig punches aestetix for saying its name
19:47 <@Dagmar> A truck _full_ of high-pressure gas canisters
19:47 <@Dagmar> Cooking off like fuckin' popcorn
19:50 <@Wilpig> I could watch that just about all day
19:50 < aestetix> god damn
19:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah
19:50 < aestetix> That was like fireworks
19:50 <@Dagmar> Yep
19:50 <@Dagmar> I would *not* have been where those guys were
19:50 <@Dagmar> Fuckin' crazy ass russians
19:51 <@Wilpig> and that's why we love russians
19:51 <@Dagmar> Shit blowing up like that... if I don't feel the need for binoculars, I'm not far away enough yet
19:51 <@Dagmar> Watching the ones that would just crack and start rocketing around?
19:51 <@Dagmar> Fuck that.
19:51 <@Dagmar> I wanna be a LONG ways away from that shit
19:53 <@Dagmar> I can't help but wonder what's up with the text in the corner
19:53 <@Dagmar> Was that a glasshole filming?
19:54 < aestetix> I hope not
19:55 <@Dagmar> Clearly there was some post-processing done for image stabilizing
19:55 <@Dagmar> There sure ain't much left of that truck
19:56 < stowbari> Those look like acetylene tanks
19:58 <@Dagmar> They are certainly something flammable that doesn't tolerate being superheated
19:59 <@Dagmar> Watching pieces of that truck just fly off repeatedly... wow
19:59 <@Dagmar> Blown to fuckin' bits
20:01 < aestetix> Ok so
20:03 < aestetix> over 24 hours, no twitter.... it gets better
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20:42 < aestetix> klixa: do you think men are more than hairy mammals that drink beer and have penises?
20:42 <@klixa> yes
20:45 <@Dickie> well, you're wrong
20:45  * Dickie shotguns a miller lite
20:45  * Dickie whacks off
20:50 <@Wilpig> just realized that i've had this bottle of wine in my fridge for 14 years now
21:04 <@brimstone> but you moved states
21:06 <@Wilpig> indeed.  it has been kept cold through all my moves
21:06 <@Wilpig> it was in a cooler with dryice on the way to jersey
21:07 <@brimstone> neat
21:07 <@brimstone> why keeping it?
21:07 <@Wilpig> I always said it was for a special occasion and just never had reason to open it
21:07 <@brimstone> not in 14 years?
21:07 <@Wilpig> nope
21:07 <@brimstone> i'd think your divorce coutned
21:07 <@brimstone> *counted
21:07 <@Wilpig> that was bourbon
21:08 <@Wilpig> lots and lots of bourbon
21:08 <@brimstone> heh
21:08 <@Wilpig> also I had venison and fish to transport to NJ from TN thanks to Mirage 
21:30 < aestetix> cat meet cock
21:33 <@Wilpig> updating your tumblr again, aestetix?
21:36 < aestetix> haha
21:36 < aestetix> I wish
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22:01 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QYq_qV6y3A
22:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: 8-Year-Old Girl Disappoints God, Told To Be More Feminine - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:01 <@RangerZ> wow....
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22:14 < aestetix> So
22:14 < aestetix> do young kids still say "safety" and "knobs"?
22:15 <@Dickie> Only in the compound word "safetyknobs"
22:16 <@Dickie> I don't think those words have any meaning on their own
22:18 <@klixa> doorknob
22:18 < aestetix> Do you know the context?
22:23 <@SuMo_D> http://www.haaretz.com/business/.premium-1.582575
22:24 <@klixa> i dont know abouts afetyknobs if that is what you are asking
22:25 <@Wilpig> lame....
22:25 <@Wilpig> The full text is available for subscribers & registered users.
22:25 <@Wilpig> Click here to subscribe ($1 for the first 4 weeks) or login
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22:25 < LoTUs456> Hello everyone
22:25 <@SuMo_D> ^ sueing google on behalf of and open source community because maps created did not remain open
22:25 <@SuMo_D> Hey Lotus456
22:26 < LoTUs456> #sumo How are you
22:26 <@Wilpig> I got the idea. i'm just annoyed at the pay wall
22:26 < LoTUs456> I finally made it out of Tennessee and into Pensacola
22:27 <@SuMo_D> it gave you a pay wall? I didn't get one
22:27 <@SuMo_D> weird
22:28 <@SuMo_D> I'm doing alright tonight - :) - hey question for all of ya - anybody worked with ellg?
22:29 <@Wilpig> nope
22:30 < LoTUs456> Hi Wilpig :)
22:30 <@Wilpig> yo
22:30 < LoTUs456> was it you I was talking to about the BBS's?
22:30 < LoTUs456> about a week or two ago?
22:30 <@Wilpig> sounds familiar
22:30 < LoTUs456> talking about 14.4 and 28.8's
22:31 < LoTUs456> I am looking for a good software for win 8 BBS
22:32 <@Wilpig> there are two phrases that just dont' jive.  "good software" "win 8"
22:32 <@Wilpig> pretty much "win 8" and anything is just fail
22:32 < LoTUs456> lol
22:33 < LoTUs456> it came with the puter and I dont have old installation disks....at least I didn't say win 8.1
22:33 <@SuMo_D> lol
22:33 <@SuMo_D> well... have you looked at Elgg ?
22:33 <@Wilpig> I thought 8.1 was an improvement on that garbage?
22:34 <@SuMo_D> its kinda like a BBS...ish
22:34 < LoTUs456> 8.1 is an improvement if you like not having the wifi on your computer working properly
22:34 <@SuMo_D> I just installed it last night and starting to poke it up and get it up and running
22:34 < LoTUs456> are you going to be running a telnet server?
22:35 <@SuMo_D> no
22:35 < LoTUs456> aww
22:35 < LoTUs456> personal BBS?
22:35 <@SuMo_D> http://elgg.org/
22:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Elgg - Open Source Social Networking Engine. (at elgg.org)
22:37 < LoTUs456> see...UI see that whole socail network as like facebook.....and I dont like facebook
22:37 < LoTUs456> or myspace
22:37 < LoTUs456> or tagged
22:38 < LoTUs456> or any of those other BS commercialized sites
22:39 <@SuMo_D> yeah... I'm trying to set this up for local artists
22:39 < LoTUs456> sweet
22:40 <@SuMo_D> of which I am one... and trying to learn all this stuff as to increase the awesome!
22:40 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... 1/2 of the ones I work with can barely take a digital picture
22:40 <@SuMo_D> so... easy happy GUI = good
22:40 < LoTUs456> lol
22:40 <@SuMo_D> I want to set one up for our kids programming course too
22:41 < LoTUs456> sweet
22:41 <@SuMo_D> which our high schoolers could get into something a bit more gritty but we have some 8-9 year olds which I think would have fun being engaged (they are dang good little programmers some of them) but again.... happier with happier gui
22:41 <@SuMo_D> I just redid our forum last night I'm so proud of myself :D
22:42 < LoTUs456> haha what did you use?
22:42 <@SuMo_D> I'm not able to teach as much lately cause of health problems so trying to help where I can
22:42 <@SuMo_D> Simple Machines Forum
22:42 <@SuMo_D> it is simple :P
22:42 < LoTUs456> like Pascal?
22:42 <@Wilpig> smf is pretty easy
22:44 <@SuMo_D> http://sumodme.ipage.com/it2pi-forum/index.php
22:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: it2pi Forum - Index (at sumodme.ipage.com)
22:44 <@Wilpig> http://spydermansforum.com
22:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: Login (at spydermansforum.com)
22:44 <@SuMo_D> I need to put our descriptions up
22:45 <@SuMo_D> but got tired... and yeah... have to see where Malinda is at with what the current description is... we just keep evolving it...
22:45 < LoTUs456> sweet
22:45 <@SuMo_D> but we were trying to use a google group, and it failed... horribly... so.. its a step up
22:46 < LoTUs456> I need to do sometjhing but I have major ADD so it's like ok gonna do some programming....dog turtle cloud....youtube...
22:47 <@SuMo_D> yep :)
22:47 <@SuMo_D> I've been thinking about doing this for awhile...
22:47 <@SuMo_D> and been lusting after Ning...
22:47 <@SuMo_D> and then I was like... Fuck... I'm all worked up (its been a stupid week of stupid shit) and put the angst to good use
22:47 < LoTUs456> I just wanna do a simple game like e oii OR lORD OR USURPER\
22:47 <@SuMo_D> :)
22:48 <@Wilpig> speaking of coding.  meh.  I should have done some of that today and did zero
22:48 < LoTUs456> I'm trying to find one that I can use with Win 8 but sometimes Dosbx to a nt work right becuase I have to connect it to a bbs and I am currently using Synchronet...its ok
22:49 < LoTUs456> for Lord or Usurper or Operation Overkill II
22:49 < LoTUs456> or BRE
22:50 <@SuMo_D> yeah not really my thing, so sorry, can't help :/
22:50 <@SuMo_D> < graphics geek
22:50 <@SuMo_D> speaking of which Wilpig did you ever get around to playing with Processing more?
22:51 < LoTUs456> lol I like graphics too...I remember playing the old Commander Keen and a plethora of other Apogee and shareware games
22:51 <@klixa> hi LoTUs456 never seen you before... you new?
22:51 <@Wilpig> nope
22:51  * SuMo_D hugs klixa 
22:51 <@SuMo_D> hi hi hi
22:51 < LoTUs456> @klixa yes this is my second time in here :) I just moved from Lewisburg, TN to p'Cola FL
22:51 <@klixa> :) yay i haz hugs from SuMo_D
22:52  * klixa hugs SuMo_D back
22:52 <@SuMo_D> :D
22:52 <@klixa> LoTUs456: are you kidding
22:52 <@klixa> oh wait lewisburg, tn
22:52 <@klixa> LoTUs456: i have a friend who moved form lewisburg, ky to pensacola
22:52 < LoTUs456> Klixa: nope and haha yea
22:52 < LoTUs456> sweet
22:53 <@klixa> i was like "whoa what are th odds of that"
22:53 < LoTUs456> it was my wife a dog and me in a truck for about 9 hours.....I did all the driving because I am to tall to fit in the other side
22:53 <@klixa> LoTUs456: been there done that, add a baby to it, and 2000 more miles
22:53 <@klixa> yes, i had to outdo you
22:53 < LoTUs456> it was like just an SUV full of our life with just enough room for a 5'9 person and a dog in her lap
22:54 < LoTUs456> lol no worries Klixa just glad its over
22:54 <@klixa> i wish it were over for me
22:54 < LoTUs456> heading to the beach tomorrow to see how cold the water is
22:54 <@klixa> im so sick of moving
22:54 < LoTUs456> I hate moving
22:54 <@klixa> i dont really live anywhere
22:55 < LoTUs456> the internet is a place
22:55 < LoTUs456> ;)
22:55 <@klixa> im in vegas this week/month (not sure how long)
22:55 <@Wilpig> tempting fate klixa.
22:55 <@SuMo_D> how is it treating you hun? its usually nice weather this time of year
22:55 < LoTUs456> what type of work do you do if you don't mind me asking
22:55 <@Wilpig> you keep saying you're there
22:56 <@klixa> SuMo_D: its super nice at night... i like the cool strong wind...during the day its alright...its not that horrible evil hot yet
22:56 <@Wilpig> LoTUs456: she's a traveling "entertainer"
22:56 <@SuMo_D> yeah, that starts about May
22:57 < LoTUs456> I'm a travelling entertainer but I dont think driving from TN to FL making my wife laugh counts -_-
22:58 <@klixa> LoTUs456: um i guess officially i repair computers...but i recently had a baby (almost 5 motnhs ago) and i havent done any serious work since shortly after getting pregnant
22:58 < LoTUs456> oh Congratulations Klixa
22:58 <@klixa> thanks LoTUs456
22:59 <@klixa> so now i sty at home with the baby and cybersex Wilpig whenever the she takes a nap...
22:59 < LoTUs456> I've been to LV before....it gets hot there
22:59 < LoTUs456> lol
22:59 < LoTUs456> I used to hitchkike across america just for fun
22:59 <@klixa> i have never done that...but i have picked up a lot of hitchikers
23:00 < LoTUs456> lol I might have been one of your riders...you never know
23:00 <@klixa> wouldnt that be funny
23:01 <@klixa> my road name is Moonbeam
23:01 <@klixa> just kidding
23:01 <@Wilpig> that's so much better than "hey you" that i've been calling you
23:01 < LoTUs456> my roadname is weirdo
23:02 < LoTUs456> lol j/k
23:02 <@klixa> pretty much all the hitchikers i picked up had road names
23:02 < LoTUs456> my roadname was Ben.....haha
23:03 <@Wilpig> Dover?
23:03 < LoTUs456> nooooo  I DID NOT follow the code
23:03 < LoTUs456> or go by the book ;)
23:05 < LoTUs456> dang it...now everytime I try to search in my browser it opens  my file section....any ideas how to turn off sticky keys?
23:05 <@Wilpig> mash shift five times quickly
23:06 < LoTUs456> lol I just got it
23:06 < LoTUs456> thanks though wilpig
23:06  * Wilpig mashes on klixa's shift key five times quickly
23:07 <@SuMo_D> Lotus456 I have that happen to me all the time too... my primary machines are Macs but I need to use PCs for some things and they are on 8... and man... things will be all fine fine fine then... nope!
23:08 <@SuMo_D> ya hit something and blam  its somewhere weird
23:08 < LoTUs456> lol yea that's like me and the crazy prt is I wasn't anywhere near turning my sticky keys on...its like if you press shift two times fast it turns them on
23:08 <@klixa> wait, is LoTUs456 another member of the mac cult?
23:08 < LoTUs456> PC
23:09 <@klixa> oh
23:09 < LoTUs456> I dont do Apples
23:09 <@klixa> i does apples
23:09 <@klixa> :D
23:09 < LoTUs456> I dont like how they come out with a new iphone every 6 months and say its better than the last when they only change like three things
23:10 <@klixa> 
23:10 < LoTUs456> such foul language lol
23:11 <@klixa> https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/lbg/4398398358.html
23:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Couples that need cash! (at lasvegas.craigslist.org)
23:12 < LoTUs456> is Gatekeeper a script?
23:12 < LoTUs456> er bot?
23:12 <@klixa> LoTUs456: they come out wiht a new Iphone once a year
23:12 <@klixa> and they change 4 things
23:12 <@klixa> :P
23:12 < aestetix> who wants to play a game
23:13 <@klixa> ok, but on a serious note...WHY must teh iPhone change and have new features? i mean the specs get an update...its only bad fr those peopel that must get a new phoen EVERY eyar
23:13 <@klixa> i keep my iphones for awhile...and i just boiught a used iPhoen 4 for $50 for someone else
23:13 <@SuMo_D> that's a dangerous thing to say yet to you on without more info aestetix
23:13 <@klixa> aestetix is sooo not dangerous...hes a sweety 3.14
23:14 < aestetix> fill in the blank: "klixa really wants to touch my _____"
23:14 <@klixa> o.O
23:14 <@SuMo_D> meh... stupid iphone... I got it cause one of the sites I was selling on was only supporting it until recenlty and it paid for itself in a day... but yeah... its barely a year old and now its getting all weird... I miss my flip phone... except for the fact that I have maps/GPS everwhere now which is nice
23:14 <@klixa> getting all weird?
23:16 <@Wilpig> guess I should turn in.  klixa you coming?
23:17 <@klixa> sure...
23:17 < LoTUs456> food for thought....
23:17 < LoTUs456>  If Apple made a car, would it have Windows?
23:17 <@klixa> LoTUs456: you said you had a wife right?
23:17 < LoTUs456> yes
23:18 <@klixa> ok..i dont have to pretend you are funny then..dead end
23:18 < LoTUs456> lol
23:18 <@SuMo_D> it feels like its overheating sometimes, every once in awhile the screen flikers and sometimes goes off yeah... weird iphone... and it doesn't seem to really hold a battery charge
23:18 <@SuMo_D> all annoying
23:18 <@klixa> SuMo_D: if its less than a year get them to swap it out
23:18 <@klixa> SuMo_D: thats not normal
23:23 <@SuMo_D> yeah I might
23:23 <@SuMo_D> its not all the time
23:23 <@SuMo_D> but recently...  more and more
23:26 < LoTUs456> goodnight everyone
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