--- Log opened Fri Mar 28 00:00:11 2014
--- Day changed Fri Mar 28 2014
00:00 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: Those trolls are going to get fucked hard
00:00 <@Dagmar> Michele Malkin should _know_ better by now
00:01 <@Bahhumbug> You've gotta be kidding me.
00:01 <@Bahhumbug> That women doesn't have the brains Cthulhu gave a cockroach.
00:02 <@SuMo_D> ?
00:02 <@SuMo_D> context... or balls will be kicked...
00:02 <@SuMo_D> also I think I found a new favorite tweet "SOMEONE REPORTED ME FOR MY TWITTER ACTIVISM! #CancelColbert #CancelTwitter"
00:03 <@SuMo_D> twitter activisim lol! is that a thing?
00:04 <@oddball> It will always be a thing
00:04 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: Check aestetix's URL.  She was one of the first troll responders apparently.
00:05 <@Dagmar> ...and you _know_ she's dumb enough to try pretending she believes her nonsense.
00:05 <@Bahhumbug> As a rule I don't click his urls :/
00:05 <@Dagmar> He'll humiliate her
00:05 <@Dagmar> So copypaste the things like I do
00:05 <@Bahhumbug> Heh
00:06 <@Bahhumbug> She doesn't care about humiliation.  I was one of the hundreds ripping her a new asshole during the last election for every retarded dingbat shit that spewed out of her maw.
00:06 <@Bahhumbug> Don't get me wrong.
00:07 <@Bahhumbug> I will make popcorn and watch Colbert.
00:07 <@Bahhumbug> But to think it would have any meaningful effect on her is folly.
00:07 <@Bahhumbug> Happiness is thinking you're out of week and recalling you stashed some away for a rainy day (or rainy night as it is here now).
00:08 <@Bahhumbug> And then realizing it's about 10 times better than what you just ran out of.
00:13 <@Dagmar> Nolol
00:13 <@Dagmar> er lol
00:14 <@Dagmar> ponA: you need a hidden bookcase entrance.
00:14 <@Dagmar> @#$@#$
00:17 <@oddball> Dagmar: I second that... but largely because everyone needs a hidden bookcase entrance.
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00:33 < aestetix> uh
00:33 < aestetix> ok then
00:33 < aestetix> is it wrong to wish for the genocide of anyone born after 1990?
00:33 < aestetix> they are all useless entitled wastes of space
00:39 <@Dagmar> WELCOME TO THE GET OFF MY LAWN CLUB!
00:39 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: How old are you?
00:39 <@Bahhumbug> Roughly?
00:40 < aestetix> Older than that. :)
00:41 <@Dagmar> I want to tell a joke but I'm saving it for NotLarry
00:41 <@Dagmar> Hell he may have heard it before
00:41  * oddball hands aestetix one of his canes.
00:42 <@Dagmar> oddball: That new rule change probably doesn't apply to hidden blades does it
00:42 <@oddball> Why yes it does. :)
00:42 <@Dagmar> ORLY
00:42 <@Dagmar> I'll have to make sure I read that personally very carefully soon then
00:43 <@oddball> There is nothing in this state barring you from having a hidden blade.
00:43 <@Dagmar> I would assume they'd consider it a "concealed weapon"
00:43 <@oddball> nope
00:43 <@oddball> There's nothing on the books in this state forbiding hidden weapons.
00:44 <@Dagmar> Just the same I might throw some cotton in the bottom and use muffler tape to secure the cane closed as a peace bond if I tote it around at PhreakNic
00:44 <@oddball> Carrying a firearm (hidden or otherwise) requires a permit, but that specifically applies to firearms.
00:44 <@Dagmar> This thing's a hell of a lot longer than four inches
00:45 <@oddball> Now, here's goofy thing.  You might get into legal trouble for carrying the cane if the officer decides you're doing so "with the intent to go armed," but not the blade.
00:45 <@Dagmar> I have the intent to go pimpin'
00:46 <@Dagmar> A cane with a shiny metal skull on top?  My style precisely.
00:47 <@oddball> Carrying a stick/cane/baton with the intent of going armed in this state requires a special training and certification.  Which, oddly enough, is, in practice, harder to get than a Carry Handgun Permit.
00:47 <@oddball> Right... part of your attire is a reasonable excuse.
00:47 <@Dagmar> It's not really an excuse.  I could completely neutralize it by pouring JBweld down in there, but I hate to destroy anything like that
00:48 <@oddball> Here's another fun part... the canes that I use in martial arts?  I could claim that I'm carrying those for medical reasons (a walking cane is a medical device), and due to the ADA, the cops *aren't allowed* to question that statement or make me prove it.
00:48 <@Dagmar> I have actually been considering attempting to use it to fill the gap between the two halves of the skull and resanding/polishing the join
00:49 <@Dagmar> Pfft.  I could use a cane based on my right knee, no problem
00:49 <@oddball> But yeah... sword cane in this state?  Once Haslam passes the bill into law, perfectly legal.
00:49 <@Dagmar> I've got another dratted sliver of bone runing around loose in it right now
00:49 <@oddball> ouch
00:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah, it's a very small one this time tho so I don't need to go rushing to find a doctor
00:50 <@oddball> Actually... have you seen one of the canes that I use for martial arts?
00:50 <@Dagmar> I can just feel it slide out and poke the tendons in the back of my knee every once in awhile
00:50 <@Dagmar> I have not seen yours but I have seen canes used for martial arts
00:52 <@oddball> Ah... yeah... curved hand for grabbing things, and made of white oak.
00:52 <@oddball> s/hand/handle
00:53 <@Dagmar> http://www.karatesupply.com/Rattan-Cane_p_1313.html
00:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: Rattan Cane for Martial Arts (at www.karatesupply.com)
00:53 <@Dagmar> Personally I'd take the escrima sticks
00:54 <@oddball> pft... rattan
00:54 <@oddball> my canes aren't light.
00:56 <@oddball> Escrima sticks are fun, though.
00:57 <@Dagmar> I prefer the word "hilarious"
00:57 <@Dagmar> all those hours spent raving.  :)
00:58 <@oddball> Oh... you would enjoy some of the shit I've learned to do with one of those canes.
00:58 <@Dagmar> They had a psytrance night this weekend and I actually managed to get up in the air a bit
00:59 <@Dagmar> ...then I remembered why it's hard to do that now.  Hehe
00:59 <@Dagmar> ...and why my calf muscles never soften anymoer
00:59 <@oddball> for example, there's one form where part of it is literally "turn and break neck/hang opponent, drop body."
01:00 <@Dagmar> That's not fun
01:00 <@oddball> I did tell you that there's a guy teaching capoeira at my school now, right?
01:01 <@Dagmar> Yeah. I know there's a couple guys doing capo in town
01:01 <@Dagmar> But I've literally turned most of the muscle in my calves into scar tissue
01:01 <@Dagmar> From doing that stuff for _hours on end_
01:01 <@oddball> Oh really?  This guy is actually from Brazil.  Kind of sort of understands english.
01:02 <@Dagmar> Yeah the basic drawing down thing I struggle with now
01:02 <@oddball> I keep thinking about joining his class, but... uh... I keep wussing out.  I know it will kick my ass.
01:02 <@Dagmar> You will develop the endurance of a god
01:03 <@oddball> But between where I am now and there lies a road of pain.
01:03 <@Dagmar> Ah not that much pain
01:03 <@Dagmar> Pain is just a signal.
01:03 <@oddball> Yes... a signal that something's wrong. :p
01:04 <@Dagmar> An *annoying* signal like Gilbert Gottfried after too many espressos, but still survivable.
01:04 <@Dagmar> To be able to _truly_ deliver pain, you first must know it yourself
01:05 <@Dagmar> But it's just not that painful
01:05 <@Dagmar> It'll make you ache
01:05 <@oddball> I do wish the owner of the studio could get the guy that seriously knew escrima back.  Doing more than this one form was a lot of fun.
01:06 <@Dagmar> Until you get used to that level of energy output it'll be draining
01:06 <@Dagmar> And you're tall as fuck
01:06 <@Dagmar> You'll be able to move half a block in three steps
01:07 <@oddball> heh... there is that.
01:07 <@oddball> I always enjoy the reactions of some folks when I'm told to see just how far back I can deliver an axe kick from. :)
01:07 <@Dagmar> Heh.  Some might consider that an act of interstate commerce
01:08 <@oddball> hehe
01:10 <@oddball> hmmm... I know a couple folks that recently moved into town that do kali, but they don't seem to be teaching it at the moment.
01:11 <@oddball> Oh! Wait! they do... hmmmm....
01:16 <@oddball> Of course... remember: Escrima and kali just use sticks to represent machete type blades. :)
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02:42 < aestetix> http://pastebin.com/CWgetiPk
02:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: sermocination's reddit posts - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
02:47 < NoFault1> O_o
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07:39 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:25 <@Shadow404> what up yo slacker cracker
08:26  * Shadow404 gets a bucket of kfc
08:26 <@Shadow404> why doesnt kfc sell watermelon?
08:28 <@brimstone> because that'd be racist
08:29 <@Shadow404> heh
08:30 <@Shadow404> they sell waternelon next to chicken at publix, do why not kfc
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09:34 <@Corydon76-home> Probably because it doesn't fry well.
09:47 <@Mirage> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Deep-Fried-Watermelon
09:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: How to Make Deep Fried Watermelon: 18 Steps (with Pictures) (at www.wikihow.com)
09:54 <@Shadow404> heh
10:01 <@Corydon76-home> Yuck, somebody didn't peel the rind before frying
10:05 <@Shadow404> why is kfc and watermelon racist? i think they go together well and profitable
10:05 <@Shadow404> i hate having to buy kfc, go across street and buying my watermelon seperately at kroger
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10:17 <@Dagmar> Because a dumb person said it was racist, therefore it's racist.
10:21 <@Shadow404> heh
10:21 <@Shadow404> good point
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10:47 <@Dagmar> ffs
10:47 <@Dagmar> <matthias___> hi, i want to run minecraft behind a tor proxy. the host ist 127.0.0.1 and the port is 9150, but it seems, that my minecraft isn't acception that
10:47 <@Dagmar> shoot me
10:51 <@Shadow404> lawl, i like
10:53 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: win user?
10:54 <@shapr> Yow!
10:54 <@Dagmar> You want to see something worse?
10:55 <@Dagmar> This is what he uses to start his Minecraft
10:55 <@Dagmar> https://gist.github.com/Mattze96/5649103158ed9deaf691
10:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: gist:5649103158ed9deaf691 (at gist.github.com)
10:55 <@Shadow404> heh
10:56 <@Shadow404> messy
10:56 <@Dagmar> Messy?
10:56 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure if you stare at it for more than a minute it kills brain cells.
10:56 <@Dagmar> Like... what.  the.  fuck.
10:56 <@Dagmar> workingdir=/home/$(whoami)
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10:56 <@Dagmar> That's an example of compression operating on stupidity.
10:57 <@Dagmar> Fuck him for not using $HOME
10:57 <@Dagmar> Fuck him for using a subshell invocation that's not needed.
10:57 <@Dagmar> Fuck him for assuming the homedir is fucking /home.
10:58 <@Dagmar> Fuck him for not using $USER, or $UID
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10:58 <@Dagmar> ...or at least fucking EUID
10:58 <@Dagmar> ...and to top it all off he's trying to connect it to motherfucking localhost
10:59 <@shapr> @remember Dagmar That's an example of compression operating on stupidity.
11:00 <@Corydon76-home> Also, the redundant slash is a nice touch
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11:00 <@Dagmar> Seriously.  If i can lecture for a half hour on one line of shell script that doesn't even wrap, someone's made an effort to pack an abnormal amount of stupid into a small amount of space.
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11:00 <@Dagmar> The last line... the way he's starting the fucking thing... is also eye-wateringly wrong, and hellishly long as a result
11:02 <@Bahhumbug> Why would you link something that bad?  Do you hate me so much?
11:03 <@Dagmar> Mainly a sanity check because this is so aggressively stupid I suspect the guy is trolling.
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11:06 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: you're going to find out that the author is an 8yo kid, and you're going to feel embarrassed for humiliating him
11:07 <@Corydon76-home> Sometimes, it's better to explain how he can do it better, rather than berating for stupidity
11:08 <@Corydon76-home> Actually, if I had to guess, given his username, I think it's a 17yo
11:08 <@Dagmar> He's running teh motherfucker on the localhost interface, and then wondering why it can't connect
11:08 <@Corydon76-home> who probably grew up on Windows and doesn't know any better
11:10 <@Bahhumbug> And then should stick with windows.
11:11 <@Bahhumbug> And leave the real platforms to the adults.
11:11 <@Bahhumbug> Yes, I am feeling particularly pissed at the world this morning.
11:13 <@Corydon76-home> I try to be charitable when possible, because there have been times I was sure I was right and came off looking like an idiot in the process of "correcting" someone.
11:13 <@Dagmar> I just told him he needs to get into the unix 101 classes at his uni
11:14 <@Dagmar> Clearly he's not an idiot or he woudln't have gotten this far with it, but what he's doing demonstrates a breathtaking lack of knowledge about what he's working with
11:14 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: did he reply that he's still in HS?
11:14 <@Dagmar> No, he just said he's a "student"
11:14 <@Dagmar> Considering I'm pretty sure he's in Europe, it all gets conflated to 'uni' there somehow
11:14 <@Corydon76-home> Classic answer to try to hide the fact that he's so young
11:15 <@Dagmar> Probably sommething to do with all that free education
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11:15 <@Dolemite> Yay for power outages!
11:15 <@Dagmar> I sort of suspect this is an x-y problem anyway
11:16 <@Dagmar> Why the fuck would someone connect over tor, but _use a fucking twitch broadcaster_?
11:17 <@Corydon76-home> Again, probably doesn't really understand the underlying tech.  He wants to host his own Minecraft and his ISP forbids running that server, so he's using Tor, and beyond that, he is simply ignorant
11:17 <@Dagmar> EIther dude's trying to be a profressional griefer, or he really doesn't realize no one gives a stinking fuck if your minecraft server runs on 192.168.1.3
11:18 <@Corydon76-home> He probably doesn't even understand the concept of setting up a local network
11:19 <@Corydon76-home> and I'm not saying that to be pejorative, just observing his lack of knowledge
11:19 <@Dagmar> I'm sure he doesn't because of the 127.0.0.1 thing
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13:27 <@Dagmar> wilpig: By the way, with respect to the Ingress glyphing thing... apparently there is no difference in the payout between getting one glyph right, or getting them all right.
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14:27 <@Dagmar> wilpig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg
14:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Expert (Short Comedy Sketch) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:27 <@Dagmar> Seem a little bit familiar/
14:27 <@Dagmar> ?
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14:42 < notlarry> Does this mean what I think it means? - http://i.imgur.com/nx9xqrw.png
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15:07 <@Dagmar> It means someone is doing an HTTP POST from an HTTPs page, which is probably both dangerous and wrong.
15:07 <@Dagmar> Unless you're sure of what's going on there, I'd click Cancel.
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15:51 <@Dagmar> Well... it looks like VUIT is farming out workstation and printer support for VUMC to _Dell_
15:52 <@Dagmar> Oh... and _help desk_
15:52 <@Dagmar> "All employees involved will have an opportunity to interview for all available positions."
15:52 <@Dagmar> In other words, everyone's seniority goes away for that department.
15:53 <@Dagmar> Classy
15:55 <@Corydon76-home> and accountability
15:56 <@Corydon76-home> When (not if) Dell does a shitty job, because they're about making a profit, not about providing effective help, they'll create a new help desk, making all the same mistakes as they did when the help desk was created before.
15:57 <@Corydon76-home> and then in another 10-15 years, they'll outsource it again, with the same results.
15:57 <@Corydon76-home> Big organizations tend not to learn, because the idiots making those decisions are long gone by the time it comes to accountability.
16:02 < notlarry> Dagmar: my vunetid and password
16:03 < notlarry> Dagmar: Which I just digitally signed a document saying I would never give out:)
16:06 < notlarry> Dagmar: that error does not come up in IE, what the fuck does that mean?
16:17 <@Corydon76-home> It means IE is a piece of shit that doesn't warn when you're about to do something with grave security issues
16:18 < aestetix> penis
16:20 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: What site were you on?
16:21 <@Dagmar> IE's settings probably make it ignore HTTPS->HTTP transgressions.
16:21 <@Dagmar> It's not configurable in Firefox & Chrome.
16:21 <@Dagmar> It's just going to bitch about it, always.
16:34 < notlarry> Dagmar: vandysafe
16:35 < notlarry> So, my question is, did my username/password go out unencrypted?
16:36 < notlarry> Because that is something the ECITR forbids
16:36 <@shapr> aestetix: vaina
16:37 < notlarry> aestetix: "doe, a deer, a female deer"
16:37 <@Dagmar> notlarry: Do I look psychic? I'm trying to replicate it now
16:39 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: Seeing as how the site doesn't use https I think there's some more detail you can supply
16:40 < notlarry> Actually, you do kind of look like a psychic
16:40 <@Dagmar> For some reason they think I should take the datacenter safety training
16:41 < notlarry> Damn it, every time I try to bring up your slave name in lync it opens a new chat window with myself.  Unified Communications people seem to have a sense of humor:)
16:43 <@Dagmar> I don't see it passing credentials back and forth, but it's using Shibbolth for login and very likely a nonce cookie to maintain session state.
16:43 <@Dagmar> That part is _not_ encrypted at all
16:44 < notlarry> I guess it is time to change my password eh:)
16:45 <@Dagmar> Or maybe scan the machine for viruses
16:45 <@Dagmar> Find a way to make that error box happen
16:45 < notlarry> it comes right up in firefox
16:45 < notlarry> just not in ie
16:46 <@Dagmar> Not in Firefox.
16:46 < notlarry> what?
16:46 <@Dagmar> ....aha
16:47 <@Dagmar> FF is calling foul because of the form submission back to an http site from the https page
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16:50 < notlarry> Well, it was time to change my password anyway
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16:52 <@Dagmar> I suppose if someone wanted to they could MITM the transaction and begin taking courses on your behalf
16:53 < notlarry> My only issue is I just said I would protect my credentials.
16:54 < notlarry> And immediatly have to violate that protection by sending them out over an unencrypted connection:)
16:55 <@Dagmar> Well, it's a hash token
16:55 <@Dagmar> ...and ther'es an email component to the site, but it looks like it only contains about 20 people
16:55 <@Dagmar> So... clearly it's not our GAL.
17:02 < dasunt> If you sent personalized emails that needed a response to everyone in a company...
17:02 < dasunt> and kept track of how long it took to reply.  Then repeated this test a few times a week for a week or two...
17:02 < dasunt> I wondre if you could fire all the people with a consistant response time of <5 minutes.
17:03  * dasunt is getting sick of people treating email like IMs.
17:05 <@Dagmar> Something to entertain you http://imgur.com/gallery/6b34tRa
17:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: When I try to comment and Im not logged in. - Imgur (at imgur.com)
17:08 < dasunt> I went to google for a rant on expecting a super fast reply to emails (expecting to find a good one), and instead I find a "manners" article stating that if you don't respond to an email soon, you are ignoring another person and that's rude.
17:09 <@Dagmar> Perhaps the other person's problem is a stupid one.
17:09 <@Dagmar> s/Perhaps t/T/;
17:10 < dasunt> Our society has evolved to the point where doing the electronic equivalent of barging up to another person and stating something that has nothing to do with what they are doing at the time is not only perfectly acceptable, but it would be rude if you didn't get a fast reply.
17:11  * dasunt thinks that sentence parses in an unsatisfactory manner, but it's 4 pm on Friday.
17:12 < dasunt> Am I the weird one here?  Do other people not find it hard to task switch from $COMPLICATED_PROJECT to $WHATEVER_EMAIL?
17:12 <@Dagmar> dasunt: They don't because they're not working very hard.
17:13  * dasunt sighs.
17:14 < dasunt> I get this longing to being a hermit some days.
17:16 <@klixa> dasunt: i do find it hard to switch tasks ...and i am already a hermint
17:16 <@klixa> tho not a hermit by choice...i like people, its just all the people i meet irl suck
17:16 <@klixa> maybe all people suck, but its just not obvous online
17:18 < dasunt> Some annoyances don't transmit online, that is true.
17:18 < dasunt> But online, you can find places where like minds congregate.
17:19 <@klixa> dasunt: yeah, that's more of what it's about...I just don't meet people in everyday situations I can relate to...i mean the bnarista in starbucks doesn;t even know what an OS is , for instance...what would we talk about, hair?
17:19 < dasunt> So you're seeing stuff like #se2600 and thinking us online folks are smart, and you're missing out on http://hollywoodgossip.com or some inane bullshit like that.
17:19 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Hollywood Gossip - Celebrity Gossip and Entertainment News (at hollywoodgossip.com)
17:20 < dasunt> GateKeeper:  Dumb bot.  That was an example.
17:20  * Dagmar bitchslaps GateKeeper
17:20 <@klixa> ZOMG no...i canot believe he's getting a sister?!?!?!?! wtf dasunt...  /me wonders what happens next
17:21 < dasunt> I think these days, CNN is about as good as filling you in with inane bullshit.
17:21 <@klixa> Dagmar: scroll down to the american apparel part, and you wont wanna bitchslap gatekeeper anymore
17:21 <@Dagmar> I'm not going to that fucking site
17:21 <@klixa> the upskirt pics, etc
17:22 < dasunt> CNN:  "Tailgater flips bird and ... instant karma", "Distraction: This fox loooooves belly rubs", "Crazy ants invading the South", "Hollywood's best bromances".  This is from the front page.
17:22 <@klixa> dasunt: that was on my facebook feed, lol
17:23 <@klixa> the tailgater one*
17:24 < dasunt> I saw that too.  Funny, but newsworthy?
17:24 <@klixa> i had mixed feelings...he didnt wreck/die so i guess its ok to laugh at him
17:25 <@klixa> well he wrecked...but i mean nothign serious
17:56 <@Dagmar> Whenever you see shit like that on a site that should know better than to do linkbait, find their comments section and bitch
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18:06 <@Wilpig> so... I just got my dinner for free.  After I left my friday movie I went to the tilted kilt for some cider and food.  hostess chick sat me and then I didn't see another soul for more than 20 minutes at which point I called the manager over
18:07 <@Wilpig> the manager came back and asked me if I had sat myself and informed me that the wait staff was ignoring me because I did so
18:07 <@Wilpig> I calmly informed him that not only was I sat there then summarily ignored he has two cameras pointed at the front door that will back my story
18:08 <@Wilpig> he seemed more confused by the fact that I knew about the cameras and what they were watching than what his dumbshit employees were doing.  either way free dinner, probably loaded with spit but it was free
18:09 <@klixa> what a douche
18:10 <@klixa> "did you seat yourself? " then w/o believing your answer or waiting for it "tahts why my shitty empoyees are ignoring you"
18:10 <@Wilpig> I kinda feel bad htat I was semi-rude to my waitress when she finally came around though.
18:10 <@klixa> and...even if you did seat yourself so what
18:11 <@Wilpig> if had I sat myself i'd expect them to ignore me til I made a stink.  
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18:11 <@klixa> nah, customer is always right (within reason)
18:11 <@klixa> i mean, if i owneed a reataurant, and someone seated themselves, id expect my employees to igore it and go wait on you
18:12 <@klixa> their job is to make money...not to reprimand people
18:12 <@klixa> for stupid silly bullshit reasons
18:13 <@Wilpig> Uploading (34.7KiB)...
18:13 <@Wilpig> http://ur1.ca/gxoyh -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/89671/39604478
18:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: #89671 Fedora Project Pastebin (at ur1.ca)
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19:01 <@Wilpig> http://companystore.yahoo.com/
19:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: Company Store - index (at companystore.yahoo.com)
19:13 < aestetix> vagfina
19:33 <@Wilpig> I just got an email from yahoo corp that gave every yahoo! employee $75 credit at the company store.
19:44 < aestetix> there is a yahoo store?
19:49 <@Wilpig> apparently
19:50 <@Wilpig> I just got several shot glasses
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20:47 < aestetix> wow
20:47 < aestetix> quitting from twitter is hard
20:47 < aestetix> I've almost gone to twitter.com like 10 times today
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21:13 < oddball> You decided to quit twitter?  WHy?
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21:14 < aestetix> oddball: partly to see if it's an addiction
21:14 < aestetix> and partly because I felt it was distracting and offered less benefit than downsides
21:14 < aestetix> It's not cold-turkey, I was just trying for a day to see what would happen
21:14 < aestetix> And it's not pretty
21:14 <@SuMo_D> lol you spazing yet?
21:15 < aestetix> SuMo_D: no, but I keep almost checking it
21:15 <@SuMo_D> lol
21:15 < aestetix> And I'm like "wtf can possibly be so important"
21:15 <@SuMo_D> yeah... I haven't checked my twitter... in ummm
21:15 <@SuMo_D> 3-4 months at least?
21:15 < aestetix> heh
21:15 < aestetix> I've been thinking about this a lot lately
21:15 <@SuMo_D> but I do facebook too much...
21:15 <@SuMo_D> pick your poison
21:16 < aestetix> my gf quit twitter/etc a year or two ago
21:16 < aestetix> and she's been doing all these cool craft projects now
21:16 < aestetix> instead of being glued to a screen
21:16 < aestetix> so I am seriously starting to question the value of it
21:16 < aestetix> If something is important, it'll either be on slashdot/boingboing, or I'll get an email
21:17 <@Dagmar> Twitter is for headlines, not for news.
21:17 < aestetix> I'm also starting to think that it's causing problems for the social justice issues
21:18 < aestetix> These iphone apps and things are all instant. Which could lead to the idea that other things are instant.
21:18 < aestetix> But racism is not something you're going to solve in a few minutes by witchhunting someone.
21:18 <@SuMo_D> Have you ever heard of the book "here comes everybody"
21:18 < aestetix> It's complex and nuanced, something twitter really isn't
21:18 < aestetix> nope
21:18 <@SuMo_D> I need to finish reading it... but its "the power of organizing without organizations"
21:19 < aestetix> And my fucking god the fauxminists who seem to think that you can "end" oppression by making sure nobody says anything they deem offensive on twitter
21:20 <@SuMo_D> and a sociological implications of different social media on organizing for different events causes - one of the early examples - social media helping find somebody's dog stuff like that
21:20 <@SuMo_D> http://books.google.com/books/about/Here_Comes_Everybody.html?id=mafZyckH_bAC
21:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: Here Comes Everybody: The Power of Organizing Without Organizations - Clay Shirky - Google Books (at books.google.com)
21:21 < aestetix> Oh it's by Clay Shirky
21:21 < aestetix> So one thing that comes to mind
21:21 < aestetix> The appropriation of the words "friend" and "follower"
21:22 <@Wilpig> aestetix: http://supervaginapunch.tumblr.com/post/80964134028/chibichan88-kawalie-comicbooksexlife-ive
21:22 < aestetix> super vagina punch?
21:22 <@Wilpig> just click it
21:23 < aestetix> hahaha
21:23 <@Wilpig> fits, right?
21:24 <@Dagmar> So... anyone know what the fuck was up Skydog's ass in 2007?
21:24 < aestetix> ....
21:24 < aestetix> What happened in 2007?
21:24 <@Wilpig> ware?
21:24 <@Dagmar> Wait no... LOL
21:25 <@Dagmar> I was preparing to "unleash some shit" and pulled the images into Gimp for some um... creative editing.
21:25 <@Dagmar> ...but you have to admit, this *does* look a lot like the fucker
21:25 <@Dagmar> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=583633365&fref=browse_search
21:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Paul Roberts (at www.facebook.com)
21:25 <@Dagmar> I've no idea why he's friends with himself
21:26 <@Dagmar> Imma have to stalk this guy and track him down and buy him a beer for luls
21:26 <@Dagmar> Also going to have to ask my dad why the hell he's got two FB accounts.  heh
21:26 < oddball> But... that would require him dressing up a Jesus... which would mean that he didn't think he was Jesus.
21:26 <@Dagmar> I think some app made one for him and he didn't realize it, but he's using them both
21:27 < oddball> heh
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21:28 <@Dagmar> I did a pipl search on myself and that picture came up and I was a leeetle peeved
21:28 <@Dagmar> ...but now i know I have to reach out to Liz Fisher and let her know she's friended the wrong person, as well as Sean Jewett
21:28 <@oddball> understood
21:28 <@Wilpig> oddball: skydick isn't jesus?
21:28 <@Dagmar> ...and this particular Paul was apparently mistaken for me by a girl I went to high school with
21:32 <@Dagmar> Leslie has a voice not unlike Minnie Mouse, but she's a sweetie just the same
21:32 < aestetix> ugh
21:32 < aestetix> the new candy crush update made it suck
21:32 <@Dagmar> Oh THAT made it suck...
21:34 <@klixa> ha
21:35 < aestetix> Dagmar: so, how's work?
21:35 <@klixa> SuMo_D: this seemed like somehting you might like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4niz8TfY794
21:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twelve Tones - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
21:36 <@klixa> SuMo_D: i know you are more visual art vs musical art, but some of the stuff it says about creativity and tings fitting into preconceived notions of things was interesting and would apply to avidual art as well
21:36 <@klixa> visual*
21:38 <@Dagmar> Work's fine
21:40 < aestetix> wow
21:40 < aestetix> that's a first
21:41 <@Dagmar> They let me DO shit
21:41 <@Dagmar> ...and make DECISIONS like an ADULT
21:42 <@Dagmar> I just got assigned a project to build almost more VMs than ITS even has
21:42 <@Dagmar> Ten of which are already done
21:42 < aestetix> Did you threaten to resign or something?
21:42 <@Dagmar> I can has templates.
21:43 <@Dagmar> No, I changed fucking departments entirely and went back to the EAI group that Troy and I were working with two years ago
21:44 < aestetix> ahhh ok
22:02 <@SuMo_D> thx klixa
22:02 <@klixa> SuMo_D: yw :)
22:03 <@SuMo_D> how are you?
22:04 <@Dagmar> Gods...
22:04 <@Dagmar> My mom... I swear
22:04 <@Dagmar> Talking to her on the phone, asking why dad has two Facebook accounts and she tells me she's logged in as him right now
22:05 <@Dagmar> She'd accepted the friend request I sent
22:05 <@Dagmar> She was looking for my younger brother's Facebook page and I was like, just punch in his name
22:05 <@Dagmar> She still can't find him.  I pull it up on my end and tell her to put in his _full_ name it and comes right up
22:05 <@Dagmar> Her response: "Well, I cain't spell"
22:06 <@Dagmar> I'm like "He's your son!  YOU NAMED HIM!  What do you mean you can't _spell_ it.  His middle name is William for pete's sake"
22:06 <@SuMo_D> lol
22:06 <@Dagmar> I try a different approach... I know she's in front of the computer using the browser, so I link it in a message
22:07 <@SuMo_D> oh parents... on facebook....
22:07 <@Dagmar> I tell her okay so click on the URL in the little window that popped up
22:07 <@Dagmar> She can't find ti
22:07 <@Dagmar> She says she's not getting any messages on there.
22:07 <@Dagmar> I send another one... hear the little plo-onk sound.
22:08 <@Dagmar> "Mom!  I *know* you're getting the message.  I can *hear* them coming in!"
22:08 <@Dagmar> *eyepinch*
22:08 <@Dagmar> she's trying to reach my brother to tell him one of our Uncles passed on this morning
22:08 <@Dagmar> 94.
22:09 <@Dagmar> If you don't _kill_ the people in my family, we just keep on going a looong timie
22:09 <@Wilpig> kill dagmar, check.
22:09 <@Dagmar> Good luck with that plan
22:10 <@Wilpig> you're already dead, you just don't know it yet.
22:10 <@Dagmar> On the flipside of this I see in my brother's gallery that apparently he (and his wife) are in tight with the Nashville Burlesque girls.
22:11 <@Dagmar> Homey's been _holdin' out on me_.
22:11 <@Dagmar> There's gonna be a _discussion_ about that.
22:11 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: Being dead inside doesn't count.
22:18 <@Dagmar> By the way...
22:18 <@Dagmar> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pink-Floyd-Wish-You-Were-Here-Trance-Remix-CD-/291105217026?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item43c7391a02
22:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here Trance Remix CD | eBay (at www.ebay.com)
22:18 <@Dagmar> That's listed as sold because It's MINE NOW BITCHES!
22:19 <@Dagmar> That's actually what happens when you leave Alex Patterson alone and insufficiently supervised in the studio containing the masters of some Pink Floyd albums
22:25  * shapr is dead inside
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22:25 <@klixa> shapr: i can relate
22:26 <@shapr> klixa: sorry to hear that
22:26 <@shapr> I'm coming back from the dead, slowly but surely.
22:27 <@klixa> i just ignore it and continue to exist
22:27 <@klixa> glad to hear you are coming back from it...
22:28 <@shapr> Yeah, life gets better.
22:28 <@shapr> just takes awhile sometimes
22:28 <@klixa> i have gone into detached idgaf mode...so im ok
22:29 <@shapr> I hope it gets better soon :-/
22:31 <@klixa> my life isnt bad per se...im just tired
22:31 <@klixa> like really really tired
22:35 <@shapr> emotionally tired?
22:36 <@oddball> bah, suck.
22:39 <@klixa> shapr: maybe...and also physically tired
22:40 <@Wilpig> klixa: we'd ask why you were so tired but it's vegas and we know they'll kill you if you try
22:41 <@klixa> truth
22:45 < aestetix> http://imgur.com/wyofCE2
22:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: Premature Ejaculators Anonymous - Imgur (at imgur.com)
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23:15 <@Dagmar> http://www.wtvf.com/story/25101875/police-padlock-2-downtown-nightclubs-as-public-nuisances
23:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: Police Padlock 2 Downtown Nightclubs As Public Nuisances - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.wtvf.com)
23:15 <@Dagmar> Loool
23:16 <@Dagmar> One of those places was where I heard DJ Asstacularclusterfuck playing
23:16 <@shapr> klixa: Getting better?
23:16 <@Dagmar> Looks like if you're going to attract tasteless hipster fuckwits, you have to put a measure of effort into keeping them under control
23:16 <@oddball> Asstacularclusterfuck?  Did he live up to the name?
23:17 <@Dagmar> But seriously, if you can't work a drum machine and get a steady rhythm out of it, change careers
23:17 <@Dagmar> oddball: It was _bad_
23:17  * shapr works a drum machine
23:17 <@shapr> Actually, I'm trying renoise at the moment.
23:17 <@shapr> But I wish I could get bitwig installed.
23:17 <@oddball> wait... don't drum machines kind of work themselves if you just get out of the fucking way?
23:18 <@Dagmar> I was walking by doing ingress stuff and heard this arrhythmic crap coming out the door, stopped a moment and say "jesus that's bad" to myself and some twat goes "Hey man don't talk about DJ (whocares) like that.  He's awesome."
23:18 <@Dagmar> One of the things I was completely unimpressed with is that he apparently liked to just push and _hold_ one of the buttons, which you know, maybe he was trying for a fast roll, but IT HAS TO BE A FUCKING EVEN MULTIPLE OF THE TEMPO
23:19 <@Dagmar> My response to the dude was "Maybe he should put more effort into not sucking"
23:20 <@Dagmar> If there's been any more bullshit I would have had to put them all on notice for damaging the possibility people might think white people had some rhythm.
23:20 <@shapr> no polyrhythms?
23:20 <@oddball> "in the past 2 years, have acured over 414 police calls"
23:20 <@Dagmar> By the standards I witnessed there, I could go buy a drum machine and get gigs
23:20 <@oddball> Which lead to over 100 arrests...
23:20 <@Dagmar> shapr: This shit was uncoordinated
23:20 <@shapr> oh, ok
23:21 <@Dagmar> I can spin two incompatible jungle records and get away with it.
23:21 <@Dagmar> Perhaps I should say he was working in 7-bullshit time
23:22 <@Dagmar> oddball: Probably quite a bit of that was the Wild Whore Saloon still but hey, they were idiots in there
23:22 <@Dagmar> ...because, as you can see, it's right next door.
23:22 <@Dagmar> ...and they trie dto pull that shit on the Underground.
23:22 <@Dagmar> 'cept we would _regulate_ on fuckers outside in order to avoid trouble.
23:23 <@oddball> Yeah... I remember the Wild Horse was one of the stops we were suposed to make during Wizard's bachelor party.  We showed up, took one look, and the entire party said "nope!"
23:23 <@Dagmar> They actually petitioned a judge and tried to get the UG closed as a "public nuisance" on the basis of the 180 odd police calls.
23:23 <@Dagmar> ...of which, I shit you not, 165 were for the WHS
23:23 <@Dagmar> ...becuase drunk fuckin' rednecks.
23:23 <@oddball> Oh, the Wild Horse would try to claim that cop calls on their patrons were actual for the neighbors?
23:24 <@Dagmar> ...and the majority of the calls for the Underground were about fuckers _from_ the Wild Whore Saloon.
23:24 <@oddball> gotcha
23:24 <@Dagmar> Before they opened, there were less than 15 calls to the police a year from 176 Underground.
23:24 <@Dagmar> ...and that was generally us calling the police to get some ornery shitheads taken away.
23:25 <@Dagmar> When your bouncers are punk rockers, a lot of shit gets real simple.
23:25 <@oddball> heh
23:26 <@Dagmar> My favorites were the industrial nights.
23:26 <@oddball> Oh, did you see my comments last night about somebody I know/trust teaching kali locally?
23:26 <@Dagmar> It's _super smarT_ to fuck with guys who have been slamming each other into walls for an hour
23:26 <@shapr> kali?
23:26 <@shapr> kali linux?
23:26 <@oddball> very similar to excrima.  Stick fighting.
23:26 <@shapr> ah, interesting
23:26 <@Dagmar> http://martialarts.about.com/od/styles/a/kali.htm
23:27 <@Dagmar> "Crazy fuckers with sticks"
23:27 <@oddball> I believe kali is the older style that spawned escrima.
23:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: Kali - A History and Style Guide of Kali (at martialarts.about.com)
23:27 <@shapr> Is there any Capoeira in Nashville?
23:27 <@Dagmar> Escrima being the reason the spaniards, with their _armor and swords_ didn't do all that hot in South America
23:28 <@klixa> every punk rocker i have ever met is not anyone to be afraid of...
23:28 <@oddball> shapr: yep.  The studio I study Tae Kwon Do at has a guy that just moved up from Brazil teaching it.
23:28 <@Dagmar> How do guys in armor and swords lose fights against natives with sticks?
23:28 <@Dagmar> COCAINE IS A HELL OF A DRUG
23:28 <@shapr> oddball: oh really! Do they teach on Saturdays?
23:28 <@oddball> Well... the sticks are for training... for battle, they use machete like swords.
23:28 < aestetix> wow
23:28 < aestetix> the social power of twitter is amazing
23:28 < aestetix> I keep having to kill this urge to go to it
23:29 <@Dagmar> Yeah but when you've got one in each hand?  Against a guy being slowed down by armor and a heavy sword?  LOL
23:29 <@oddball> shapr: Capoeira?  Uh.... I think it's currently Tuesday and Thursday nights only.
23:29  * aestetix needs a twitter fix
23:29 <@shapr> no way I can drive up for that
23:29 <@Dagmar> heh just find some ravers
23:29 <@oddball> shapr: Where do you live?
23:29 < aestetix> I think the difference between twitter and meth is that I don't have to pay for twitter
23:30 <@shapr> oddball: Florence, AL
23:30 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: WoD beta invites going out now.
23:30 <@Dagmar> Time to camp the inbox like a fiend!
23:31 <@Wilpig> I kinda hope I don't get one
23:32 <@Wilpig> i've been wow free for a while now
23:32 <@Dagmar> Enjoying being clean, are we?
23:32 <@oddball> shapr: Ah... yeah... that would be a bit of a drive.  You could probably make it, since it starts at 7, but...
23:32 <@Wilpig> I just have so much other shit going on
23:32 <@shapr> driving back the same day would suck
23:32 <@Dagmar> o/~ There's player hous-ing... o/~
23:32 <@Wilpig> got that monkey off my back too
23:33 <@oddball> Dagmar: WoD?  You're interested in something in the World of Darkness?
23:33 <@Dagmar> Warriors of Draenor.
23:33 <@oddball> shapr: Especially after a serious workout.
23:33 <@shapr> truly
23:33 <@oddball> Dagmar: Oh... is this some WoW thing?
23:33 <@Dagmar> Yep
23:33 <@shapr> And Capoeira is the best workout I've ever found
23:33 <@shapr> Capoeira even beats mountain unicyling.
23:34 <@oddball> I was telling Dagmar that I've been tempted to try it, but... uh... I'm out of shape, and TKD class kicks my ass hard enough.
23:34 <@Dagmar> shapr: I can believe it considering I was doing some of the basic forms for years knowing it only as "some shit ravers do"
23:34 <@oddball> Oh, and TKD class is right before the capoeira classes.
23:35 <@shapr> I started doing Capoeira just after I turned 37, I bet you're younger than me and could pick it up faster :-P
23:35 <@Dagmar> <insanitywolf>DO them BOTH</insanitywolf>
23:35 <@oddball> damn you two!!!!
23:35 <@Dagmar> heheh
23:35 <@Dagmar> It teaches you full body coordination.  :)
23:35 <@Dagmar> Otherwise it kills you
23:36 <@oddball> Especially since Naienko has given me permision to take it since it looks like I won't be doing Goju Shorei weapons anymore. :/
23:36 <@Dagmar> If all your bits don't work together you have to work five times as hard
23:36 <@oddball> Dagmar: See... I can get full body coordination from Tai Chi just fine... :p
23:36 <@Dagmar> Yes but that's standing still most fo the time
23:36 <@Dagmar> You're in perpetual motion with capo
23:36 < aestetix> so uh
23:36 <@shapr> truly
23:37 <@shapr> ginga to whatever
23:37 < aestetix> anyone have suggestions for places that can do custom injection molding?
23:37 < aestetix> for plastic?
23:37 <@shapr> The cartwheels are my favorite for whatever reason.
23:37 <@oddball> Nothing has taught me balance and body movement better than Tai Chi.
23:37 <@shapr> but I also like the drop flat to the floor escapes where you can pop back up into a high kick
23:37 <@Dagmar> shapr: Yeah I had no idea I could do them until I was tripping too hard to realize it one night
23:37 <@oddball> Oh... fuck... yeah... The idea of me doing a cartwheel?  no.
23:37 <@shapr> Hey, I can do a cartwheel and I'm 42
23:37 <@Dagmar> They're not "normal" cartwheels
23:38 <@shapr> don't tell me you're too old :-P
23:38 <@oddball> Never could manage them as a child, and now I'm 6'3" 250+lbs.
23:38 <@Dagmar> I leaned over backwards and put a hand down and twisted and smooth as glass rolled right over
23:38 <@Dagmar> "What the fuck did I just do."
23:38 <@shapr> I'm 5' 10" and 210 pounds, recently down from 280 pounds, and I could still do cartwheels then :-P
23:38 <@oddball> shapr: Damn yoooooooooo!
23:38 <@shapr> Dagmar: ah, macaco?
23:39 <@shapr> oddball: I challenge you to a DANCE FIGHT!
23:39 <@Dagmar> shapr: Like I said, I didn't even know it was a _thing_ until I'd been doing it for years
23:39 <@Dagmar> shapr: There were a lot of ravers who did it is all
23:39 <@Dagmar> I picked it up from them.
23:39 <@oddball> shapr: The fight part, I'd have a chance, the dance?  not so much. :p
23:39 <@shapr> haha
23:39 <@Dagmar> I found out it was a _thing_ when I moved to San Francisco
23:39 <@shapr> Capoeira does not excel for self defense, but it is *amazing* for fitness and muscle definition.
23:40 <@Dagmar> shapr: And dodging the fuck out of people
23:40 <@shapr> true
23:40 <@shapr> it's rare to see someone appear to drop flat on the floor, and then come back up with a high kick
23:40 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... I remember you coming back and telling me about the raver martial art and being kind of suprised when I said "ummm... yeah?"
23:41 <@Dagmar> Well damn man I'd been doing it for like four years and no one ever said capoeria to me even once here
23:41 <@oddball> That's because you never talked to a martial artist about it. :p
23:41 <@Dagmar> I didn't do it well with others because I had no idea it was a _thing_ and most of those guys were smaller than me and I was worried I'd knock someone the hell over
23:42 <@Dagmar> I never knew they were basically doing katas when they'd get real close to each other
23:42 <@oddball> Also, there's a lot of folks outside martial arts that are under the delusion that martial arts equals karate/TKD (same thing to them), judo, and kung fu... and that's it.
23:43 <@shapr> yup
23:43 <@shapr> completely leaves out all sorts of fun things
23:43 <@shapr> Can anyone name the French martial art? ;-)
23:43 <@Dagmar> "Fleeing-do"?
23:43 <@shapr> haha
23:43 <@shapr> savate :-P
23:43 <@oddball> Dagmar: From what I understand, capoeira folks like to spar without touching each other.  It's more of a free flow dance than a kata.
23:43 <@oddball> Bah... I was typing.
23:43 <@Dagmar> Yeah but these guys had particular things they'd do
23:44 <@shapr> Mostly because a kick that lands will knock you the fuck out
23:44 <@Dagmar> They'd literally be within six inches of each other
23:44 <@shapr> Yeah, THAT's the right way to play capoeira
23:44 <@Dagmar> You can't be on LSD and reliably wing that
23:44 <@shapr> a close game is fun, and har
23:44 <@shapr> hard*
23:44 <@Dagmar> Someone will get knocked _the fuck_ out
23:44 <@oddball> of course, capoeira origniated as a "dance" to disguise that it was a martial art.  Oddly enough, escrima did the same thing.
23:45 <@shapr> Once I didn't keep my arm up enough, and a thin female friend of mine swiped a slow kick juuust over my arm and barely tagged my chin
23:45 <@shapr> and I looked like a bobble head
23:45 <@Dagmar> Yowza
23:45 <@shapr> had to sit down for awhile after that
23:45 <@oddball> Yeah... those kicks are seriously telegraphed, but if they land...
23:45 <@Dagmar> I can believe it
23:46 <@Dagmar> oddball: Yep.  Every blow comes from full extention.  :)
23:46 <@shapr> a fast meia lua can break you into pieces
23:46 <@oddball> shapr: heh... you mentioning savate... gotta love an art that takes into consideration that the law of the land considered a strike with a closed fist assault with a deadly weapon.
23:46 <@shapr> right :-)
23:47 <@Dagmar> I very much liked that if someone dodged one strike... whoops there's another one right behind it...
23:47 <@Dagmar> ...and another... and another...
23:47 <@oddball> I'm not sure if I'd rather stand in front of one of capoeira's round house kicks, or a TKD turn side kick.  Pretty sure both would lay me the fuck out.
23:48 <@shapr> Yeah,  those roundhouse kicks are slow, but something will break if it's in the way :-)
23:49 <@oddball> Actually, I guess the better equivelant would be a wheel kick.
23:49  * shapr looks up a wheel kick
23:49 <@shapr> is it heel first?
23:49 <@oddball> yes
23:49 <@Dagmar> "Flying crazy-ass attack".  ;)
23:50 <@shapr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6IISCcNlIU
23:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: Capoeira - Lesson - [Meia Lua De Compasso] - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:50 <@oddball> Basically, turn/spin and stick your leg out.  Whatever gets in the way.... so sorry.
23:50 <@shapr> Sounds like the Meia Lua De Compasso
23:50 <@shapr> Neat thing about that kick is that you can do repeatedly, really fast
23:50 <@shapr> once you get started.
23:51 <@shapr> that video shows a low kick, but it's just as easy to kick above someone's head with one hand on the ground
23:51 <@oddball> Man... I'd have serious issues putting my head down like that.  Spent a lot of time working on keeping my head up.
23:52 <@shapr> part of capoeira is combining dodge with attack
23:52 <@oddball> understood.
23:52 <@shapr> so, try to get everything out of the way that's not about to tag your opponent
23:52 <@Dagmar> _Balanced_ movement
23:53 <@Dagmar> Oddball: See.  This isn't that hard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTOUT-rCOWw
23:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: Basic Capoeira Movements and Names - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:53 <@Dagmar> Even a _girl_ can do it
23:53 <@Dagmar> *grin(
23:53 <@shapr> The girls that do it are one of the best parts
23:53 <@oddball> Yeah... I'm guessing it's an issue of "up is good... down is good... halfway is unfortunate."
23:54 <@shapr> capoeira girls look *incredible*
23:54 <@Dagmar> If you're halfway you're on your way to both of the others
23:54 <@Dagmar> shapr: Oh god *drool*
23:54 <@oddball> Dagmar: Oh... without even clicking that I can tell you a girl doing it doesn't make it easy.
23:54 <@Dagmar> SUCH FITNESS
23:54 <@Dagmar> She's going real slow
23:54 <@oddball> I've workedout with a few girls that could kick the shit out of me.
23:55 <@Dagmar> They can something the else out of you, too.
23:55 <@oddball> And yeah... I've watched a little of this guy's class, and I know he's a good enough instructor to not ask me to do the crazy shit right off the bat.
23:55 <@shapr> One of my favorite parts about Capoeira is that it's like playing Tekken 3 or something, you make up the craziest chain of moves and it'll usually work
23:56 <@oddball> ugh... and my hands.... there would be issues with my hands...
23:56 <@shapr> bad wrists?
23:56 <@oddball> no... I would have issue not keeping my hands up in front of me when kicking.
23:57 <@Dagmar> No, you really woudln't have that problem
23:57 <@Dagmar> You'd be using your arms for more leverage
23:57 <@oddball> The cartwheels and that shit... yeah... that would require me to 1. lose weight and 2. gain upper body strength.
23:57 <@shapr> the basic move, ginga (swing), is all about twisting your top half and bottom half in opposite directions so you can unwind into a variety of moves
23:58 <@Dagmar> ginga is so ravey
23:58 <@shapr> I dunno, your arms are mostly to direct you and your legs actually push you up and over
23:58 <@oddball> Dagmar: The issue is that I can see that there are bits of capoeira that go against pretty much every martial art I've studied.
23:58 <@Dagmar> I was so pleased when I could finally stay in the air for three full swaps
23:58 <@shapr> oddball: yeah, but isn't that good?
23:59 <@shapr> Why learn something that doesn't stretch you?
23:59 <@Dagmar> The other styles are kinda lazy heh
23:59 <@oddball> shapr: Eh... it would make the swapping back and forth more difficult.
23:59 <@shapr> I dunno, I don't have a problem swapping between English and Swedish.
23:59 <@Dagmar> You're not even a little bit stretchy?
23:59 <@shapr> Sometimes it is fun to mix the two together though.
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