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03:41 < aestetix> penis
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06:13 < aestetix> My sister's job consists of taking care of people with disabilities. She had to take care of an extremely obese woman. So it was time for the shower. Of course, that woman couldn't wash herself for obvious reasons. When my sister took her sponge (I think she was using a sponge) and went between her crack, she found lots of black gold.
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07:29 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:05 <@Wilpig> no u
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08:37 <@Wilpig> we just got a couch in
08:37 <@Wilpig> this is gonna be fun to get out of the loading dock
08:39 <@Dolemite> Put a scooter under each end
08:39 <@Wilpig> it would rest on the foot brake
08:43 <@Dagmar> aeststix: There's rather a LOT of slashdotters who read the bit about the hula-hooping and have decided Horvath is a nutjob
08:43 <@Wilpig> clearly she is
08:44 <@Wilpig> that one phrase is what changed the entire tone from "it's possible" to "bitch be crazy"
08:45 <@Dagmar> http://readwrite.com/2014/01/24/github-meritocracy-rug#awesm=~oyM1MMELPTf3kg
08:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: Why GitHubs CEO Ditched Its Divisive Meritocracy Rug ReadWrite (at readwrite.com)
08:49 <@Dagmar> So let me get this straight... They had a problem with a _rug_ because they felt that it ignored the plight of minorities?
08:49 <@Dagmar> What?
08:49 <@Dagmar> Fucking lunacy
08:49 <@Dagmar> How DARE that rug promote merit!
08:52 <@Wilpig> The people that should be pissed off are the women and minorities that are doing well and moving up despite these missed opportunities that these other people are complaining about not getting
09:24 <@brimstone> but why aren't they?
09:26 <@Wilpig> because htey have better uses for their time, like continuing to move ahead
09:38 <@Wilpig> W00T!!!!  http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57620397-93/alibaba-confirms-plans-to-offer-ipo-in-us/
09:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Alibaba confirms plans to offer IPO in US | Internet & Media - CNET News (at news.cnet.com)
09:38  * Wilpig doubles does in the employee stock program
09:38 <@Wilpig> s/does/down/
09:42 <@Dagmar> I just find it deranged in the extreme that if a place is actually interested in being a meritocracy, that _someone wants to get mad about it and tell them to stop_
09:42 <@Dagmar> Fuck those people
09:42 <@Dagmar> Fuck egalitarianism
09:42 <@Dagmar> Everyone is _not_ equal.
09:42 <@Dagmar> Some people are contentious little shits.
09:43 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: specific place?
09:43 <@Dagmar> Github
09:43 <@Dagmar> Read the comments on Slashdot about that woman leaving Github
09:44 <@Dagmar> You'll find out that, among other things, this woman had a problem with Github's decorative rug which featured the octocat of meritocracy
09:45 <@Dagmar> ...because apparently it didn't mention anything about women or minorities.  What?  Psycho.
09:45 <@Dagmar> ...and *lots* of people are viewing the "hula-hooping incident" and coming down on the side of "that woman's just cracy"
09:51 <@Dagmar> ' To Horvath, the silence made her think that she was “being bullied into leaving.”'
09:52 <@Dagmar> I'm a little baffled about how silence == bullying
09:53 <@Wilpig> because she was being ignored and required attention
09:54 <@Dagmar> So, I suppose being 23 would be why she had no idea of knowing HR typically doesn't tell people shit until they've made a decision
09:54 <@Corydon76-home> Well, don't be surprised if many of the comments on Slashdot are from trolls
09:54 <@Corydon76-home> It's pretty much why I stopped reading Slashdot... the place is a magnet for trolls
09:55 <@Dagmar> Actually, there's hardly any of them who've gotten voted up
09:55 <@Dagmar> Everywhere's a fucking magnet for trolls.  Welcome to 2014.
09:55 <@Corydon76-home> Eh, the longer as site is around, the more trolls it retains
09:56 <@Corydon76-home> I agree that a non-employee being at the company on a regular basis is majorly fucked, though
09:56 <@Wilpig> I don't see that as being that odd. when I worked at ICS there were friends and family of employees there constantly
09:58 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: yeah and this is the reason there's comment validation and reputation systems
09:59 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: at a small business, not altogether unsurprising, but also unprofessional
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10:12 <@Corydon76-home> I do agree that the hula-hooping incident was a bit much for being the reason why she chose to leave the company
10:20 <@Corydon76-home> Being repeatedly harassed by a company founder's wife after being told that the wife would no longer be near her space is definitely a good reason to quit
10:21 <@Dagmar> Yep
10:21 <@Dagmar> Reading all the stuff about that, I think she could have stood to be more aggressive in standing her ground against that woman, but at the same time, clearly Horvath was being harassed by a crazy lady
10:22 <@Corydon76-home> But when that company moved from being a small business staffed mainly by the founders to being a corporate environment, where the founders are a small minority, at that point, the wife should be free to come to her husband's work space, but nowhere else in the company.
10:23 <@Dagmar> Well, after being asked by HR to back off and then to continue trying the glarefest stuff?  Unacceptable
10:23 <@Corydon76-home> Harassed by a crazy lady, and HR was clearly not in a position to take action against the nutso
10:24 <@Corydon76-home> At that point, the wife should have been banned from the property and the cops called if she lingered
10:25 <@Dagmar> There's no fuckin' telling what would happen with that
10:25 <@Dagmar> "OMG banned from the office because she's a woman!"
10:26 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, but she's harassing a female employee, so no go
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10:26 <@Corydon76-home> She clearly got special deference for being a founder's wife, instead of being treated like any other non-employee distraction to company work
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10:28 <@Corydon76-home> And the creepy guy being passive-aggressive towards her after she rejected his advances was rather weird, too
10:29 <@Corydon76-home> I bet the creep is the greenshirt on secret.ly
10:30 <@Corydon76-home> In any case, I think there's not enough evidence to support the allegation of a sexist culture, but plenty to support harassment
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10:50 <@Dagmar> Yep.
10:50 <@Dagmar> I don't like that the fauxminists are going to be fully engaged in jumping up and down about the sexism claims as justification of their extremism
10:56 <@Wilpig> there are claims of her being harassed by some mystery jilted suiter.  she didn't offer any supporting pull requests or emails showing code being reversed
10:57 <@Wilpig> there were no specifics there, just broad claims of "i submitted code, the next day it was gone"
10:57 <@Wilpig> i've dreamt about submitting code that never existed too
10:57 <@Dagmar> Yeah but that's not sexism.
10:57 <@Dagmar> That's one jackass.
10:58 <@Wilpig> but her claims were around the founder's wife and this one jackass, then finally the straw that broke the crazy's back... hula-hooping girls
11:03 <@Dagmar> Yeah that sounds like deranged judgeent to me.
11:05 <@Wilpig> I'm not saying she's an outright liar and is blowing shit out of proportion but the case is there.  having dealt with a few people that do that type of thing the behavior pattern is there
11:05 <@Wilpig> our most recent crazy is similar
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11:05 < Synx|hm> morning peeps
11:08  * Wilpig pats Synx|hm on the head
11:12 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING!
11:12 <@shapr> Today I'm drinking http://www.amazon.com/Death-Wish-Coffee-Strongest-Organic/dp/B006CQ1ZHI
11:13 < Synx|hm> nice
11:13 < Synx|hm> im two huge cups of coffee down
11:16 <@Wilpig> oh Dagmar ...  MrBIOS [~aperez@dagmar1.corp.linkedin.com]
11:19 <@Dagmar> huh/
11:19 <@Wilpig> check the dude's host
11:19 <@Dagmar> Has nothing to do with me
11:19 <@Wilpig> yes I realize.  I was just amused by the name
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11:29 <@shapr> !seen klixa
11:29 <@shapr> aw
11:32 <@Corydon76-home> shapr: 2:18 Sunday morning, looks like
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11:32 <@shapr> ah, I see
11:33 <@Corydon76-home> And, fuck, the US just announced sanctions on Russia
11:33 <@shapr> wat?
11:34 <@Corydon76-home> Escalation of the situation is not welcome
11:34 <@Dagmar> LET'S EVERYONE BE DICKS
11:35 <@shapr> Dickie wins.
11:35 <@Dagmar> At least it's more htan just us
11:35 < Synx|hm> world war iii
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11:43 <@shapr> klixa: OH HAI
11:44 <@shapr> klixa: wassup mah homie?
11:44 <@klixa> shapr: we might be having a latte soon... cause...schizophrenia
11:44 <@shapr> yow?
11:44 <@shapr> @yow?
11:44 <@Wilpig> she's gonna drug you
11:44  * shapr blinks
11:44 <@shapr> klixa: ok what?
11:45 <@klixa> shapr: i might be moving back to tn... cause the ex/baby daddy is schizo
11:45 <@shapr> getting child support, right?
11:46 <@klixa> ya know...he would totally be willing to ay...but he wont be capable
11:46 <@benthemeek> klixa: speak of the devil and she appears
11:46 <@klixa> pay*
11:46 <@benthemeek> Shapr was just asking about you
11:46 <@shapr> yup
11:46 <@klixa> hey benthemeek!!!!
11:46  * benthemeek waves
11:46 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: I mentioned crazy hours ago and she is definitely not here
11:47 <@Wilpig> although if she was here I wouldn't know cause I think I still have her on ignore
11:47 <@klixa> Wilpig: you would know
11:47 <@klixa> Wilpig: everyone would be arguing against her
11:47 <@Dagmar> She would be going completely off the deep end about this entire conversation
11:48 <@Dagmar> Like, frothing at the mouth rage
11:50 <@shapr> Who's crazy?
11:50 <@Dagmar> shapr: You know who
11:50 <@Dagmar> She Who Must Not Be Named
11:50 <@shapr> er... ok
11:51 <@klixa> shapr: everyone
11:51 <@klixa> we're all mad here
11:51 <@Dagmar> *n*rch*v*l
11:51 <@shapr> oh, ok then.
11:51 <@klixa> damnit Dagmar, i can still feel the sting even with so few letters
11:51  * klixa holds up cross sign
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12:07 < oddball> She's still on the banned list
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12:08 <@klixa> oddball: dont read the ba list, you will go blibnd
12:08 <@klixa> ban* blind*
12:09 <@oddball> bah, one of the other channels I'm a regular on has a ban list long enough that they are constantly remove old names so they can put new ones on.
12:10 <@klixa> oddball: no no, i mean because you will see she who ust not be named's name
12:10 <@oddball> It's a damn shame that she can't play well with others online.  She acts like a normal person in real life.
12:11 <@oddball> klixa: Oh... I've spent time with her in meat space twice this month.
12:11 <@Wilpig> our ban list is pretty exclusive.  you have to be a royal shit to get on it
12:11 <@oddball> yep
12:11 <@klixa> oddball: you are tainted
12:12 <@Neoteric> wow you guys banned merc
12:12 <@Neoteric> also i have accounts on both zeniv and sammy.net
12:12 <@oddball> klixa: It helps when you have no soul to begin with.
12:12 <@Neoteric> but i don't care
12:12 <@Neoteric> leave those bans
12:12 <@klixa> i saw a video of her, and based on it...she seemed like she would be a nice person...but , well, i guess online her inner demon comes out
12:13 <@oddball> klixa: right.  She's apparently the living embodyment of the greater internet fuckwad theory.
12:14 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: I disagree that she acts like a normal person IRL
12:14 <@Corydon76-home> Her responses are merely more muted
12:14 <@klixa> oddball: i dont quite agree with you
12:14 <@klixa> oddball: i think rangerZ might be right about her just being a drunk
12:14 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: Oh?  I guess I've missed those bits.
12:15 <@Dagmar> klixa: We do not name names
12:15 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: she has this annoying tendency to assume parts of conversations that you didn't have and to go about 3 steps ahead
12:15 <@oddball> Ah... I deal with people like that all the damn time. :p
12:15 <@Dagmar> She's listening to the angry little voices in her head
12:15 <@Corydon76-home> which is why she has disagreements so often.  She's essentially arguing with the voices in her head
12:15 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: she's anticipating the rape.  cause that's how you prevent it
12:16 <@Dagmar> lol
12:16 < frsilent> umm, did google hangout just go down or something?
12:16 < Synx|hm> did for me
12:16 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: I honestly have to doubt whether she was ever raped or sexually abused as she alleges.
12:16 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: more muted? so shes more shy then but still spewing the same insanity?
12:17 <@Dagmar> I'm going to take a minor risk and say it doesn't matter to me whether or not those allegations are true
12:17 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: she's more restrained in her allegations in meatspace
12:17 <@oddball> See... I've had rational discussions with her in meat space.  I never saw that happen here.
12:17 < Synx|hm> frsilent: that was directed at you btw... its down for me aswell as of about 7min ago
12:17 <@klixa> i think she has borderline perosnlaity disorder
12:17 <@klixa> BPD people cna be normal...but when rattled freak out
12:17 <@shapr> There's a Google Hangout for #se2600?
12:18 <@shapr> klixa: I know that from experience.
12:18 <@klixa> getting a paper cut and getting their leg chopped off is equal to BPD people...they have NO emotional regulatin
12:18 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: my suspicion is that she uses the allegations of prior assault to obtain sympathy and deference for her otherwise objectionable opinions
12:18 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Another reason why I don't care.  I especially don't care _why_ she acts like a psycho bitch, because I'm going to find it objectionable no matter the cause
12:19 <@shapr> Difficult people are difficult.
12:19 <@shapr> I've known some difficult people who do great research, but it didn't matter to me because they were just too difficult.
12:20 < frsilent> Synx|hm: yeah same for me
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12:20 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: yes, but some of us do allow a bit more leeway for people who are recovering from a prior trauma
12:20 <@Corydon76-home> shapr: Like RMS?
12:20 <@oddball> Yeah... There comes a point where I don't give a shit about your past, etc.  If you can't behave to any degree in a social setting, you are broken.  You can either try to fix yourself, or leave me the fuck alone.
12:21 <@shapr> Corydon76-home: Yup, I've met him and talked to him. He definitely falls into that category.
12:22 <@Dagmar> what the hell is it doing still being 32f
12:22 <@shapr> !weather 35661
12:22 <@shapr> aw
12:22 <@shapr> no bots
12:22 <@Corydon76-home> shapr: when I was working with the Nashville Linux Users Group, we had the opportunity to invite RMS to come speak.  He refused unless we changed the name of the group to the Nashville GNU/Linux Users Group.
12:23 <@shapr> haha, doesn't surprise me.
12:23 <@Dagmar> heh
12:23 <@shapr> I've heard plenty of stories about his difficult behavior, and I've experienced it myself.
12:23 <@oddball> Dagmar: Because the weather gods hate us and want our sinuses to suffer.
12:23 <@Dagmar> Just as long as it's not Nashville Unix Users Group
12:23 < frsilent> wasn't his birthday yesterday or something
12:23 <@Corydon76-home> What's worse is, I'm not even joking.  He literally suggested changing the name of a corporation.
12:25 <@shapr> Corydon76-home: I'm totally not surprised.
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12:41 <@Wilpig> http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en&v=status
12:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: Apps Status Dashboard (at www.google.com)
12:41 <@Wilpig> the sky is falling!
12:43 <@Corydon76-home> Well, messaging apps do tend to be critical in a lot of operations
12:44 <@shapr> 0mq!
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12:50 <@Dagmar> Next on CNN: "MASSIVE GOOGLE OUTAGE REPORTED"
12:58 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: they can't report it if they rely upon messaging for getting news stories to HQ
12:58 <@Dagmar> Heh
12:59 <@Corydon76-home> Seriously, when I worked at Digium, phone system outage, no problem, life goes on.  Jabber outage?  Holy shit, everything grinds to a halt.
12:59 <@Corydon76-home> Even an Internet outage there wasn't as bad as when the internal Jabber server went offline
13:12 <@klixa> speaking of google...i wanna go to building 44 and pose klixa 2.0 with all the android sculptures
13:13 <@SuMo_D> that'd be cute
13:13 <@shapr> Corydon76-home: yeah, everybody lived on jabber
13:13 <@shapr> was pretty cool
13:14 <@klixa> SuMo_D: :) thanks
13:14 <@SuMo_D> sup everybody
13:14 <@klixa> we need to recruit more girls for here
13:14 <@klixa> men just dont appreciate teh cute as much
13:15 <@SuMo_D> well they might, but they don't express it the same way
13:15 <@klixa> :)
13:16 <@SuMo_D> you could ask she who shall not be named back?
13:16 <@klixa> demons odnt  have genders
13:16 <@klixa> dont*
13:16 <@klixa> i know i guy IDENTICAL to her
13:16 <@klixa> a*
13:17 <@klixa> as part of their daily rant to me "my enemies are important, capable people. you're a nobody."
13:17 <@klixa> we were arguing and i was like "im not your enemy"...anywya he has Borderline personality disorder...which is why i have diagnosed her with it
13:17 <@klixa> its a special kinda insanity
13:18 <@klixa> bordelrine personality disorder +INTJ personality = an insane force to be reckoned with
13:18 <@klixa> hell, intj alone is hard enough...
13:19  * klixa had a lot of peet's coffee. and cant shut up... 
13:19 <@SuMo_D> :)
13:19 <@SuMo_D> I need some coffee...
13:19  * klixa gives SuMo_D coffees
13:20 <@SuMo_D> :)
13:20 <@klixa> SuMo_D: you have been to peet's right? you are a west coaster oroginally
13:20 <@SuMo_D> yep, they used to have them in Boston too
13:20 <@klixa> oh, didnt know tat
13:20 <@klixa> i asked, because i was gonna tell you about teh art on their cups
13:20 <@klixa> but then i was like "wait shes probably seen it"
13:20 <@SuMo_D> :)
13:20 <@SuMo_D> they've probably changed
13:21 <@klixa> i like the art on mine, i have the purple man and the dog and the star
13:21 <@klixa> no, same art forever
13:21 <@SuMo_D> cool
13:21 <@klixa> the primitive old ancient art
13:22 <@klixa> i have alwyas liked it... i forgot its meaning...i like aboroginal art a lot too...and "the dreaming"...anything connected with that
13:23 <@SuMo_D> :)
13:24 <@klixa> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sugarpacketchad/2202125815/
13:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: coffee cup art | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (at www.flickr.com)
13:24 <@klixa> its been the same for like 10 years tho taht i knowof
13:24 <@klixa> cause when i lived in seattle, it was the same...but in case it changed, tehre
13:25 <@SuMo_D> yeah sorta familiar I never went there much
13:25 <@SuMo_D> but they were across from Coolidge Corner theater that I spent a lot of time at
13:26 <@klixa> they are everywhere here in the bay
13:26 <@klixa> berkely is their origin tho
13:27 <@klixa> why did you spent a lot of time there? what were you doing?
13:28 <@SuMo_D> I lived in Boston for about 5 years, college
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13:28 <@SuMo_D> did two of my degrees there
13:29 <@SuMo_D> was fun
13:29 <@SuMo_D> I <3 Boston - except for the snow
13:29 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: I feel like a fuckin' chump now.   I've been screwing around with a 1/8" audio cable for my mp3 player on the bike
13:29 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: Found out this weekend the Chinese sell a BOOONCH of little $8 bluetooth A2DP recievers.
13:30 <@klixa> SuMo_D: boston is the hardest place to drive f any place i have been to
13:30 <@Dagmar> Might as well go ahead and get one of those and mate it with a 12v USB adapter
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13:31 <@Wilpig> damnit.  I forgot how big a regular five guys burger is
13:31 <@shapr> too big!
13:32 <@Wilpig> I won't be able to finish this
13:32 <@SuMo_D> awww Dagmar that's the worst... but I think we've all been there
13:32 <@SuMo_D> its always AFTER ya spend the dough
13:32 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: Well, at least I just have these damn cables all over
13:33 <@Dagmar> ...but at this point I've been slack and my mp3 player only has 8Gb of storage, but my phone... 32Gb + 12Gb
13:33 <@SuMo_D> and yeah klixa its hard to get the hang of, I didn't drive there much but it was always funny when people came to visit with cars - I knew the city really well from walking it and it'd be like yeah take a left and another left now a u turn and then we go in another circle to the right and voila!
13:33 <@Dagmar> This'll cut the need for me to worry about attaching and reattaching anything to the bike
13:34 <@SuMo_D> well at least that's a plus
13:34 <@Dagmar> Yeah I didn't really like having to peel the velcro off when I'd go somewhere to make sure no one grabbed it and walked off
13:34 <@SuMo_D> that does sound like a pain
13:35 <@Dagmar> At least the new amp came with a remote so now I don't really have to wire in any buttons for volume
13:35 <@SuMo_D> which chinese site was it though? I ordered some stuff all of dx.com over a month ago that was components related, and still waiting
13:35 <@Dagmar> Amazon has a ton of them
13:35 <@SuMo_D> ah
13:35 <@Dagmar> They're claiming 2-3 days lead time before shipping
13:36 <@SuMo_D> cool
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13:36 <@SuMo_D> yeah I've had mostly good experiences with Chinese sellers
13:36 <@Dagmar> As usual, BestBuy's closest thing is overdesigned (why the fuck does it need a rechargeable battery) and cossts $40-$60
13:36 <@SuMo_D> lol yep
13:37 <@Dagmar> Like, these things are meant for letting you send bluetooth to regular multimedia speakers
13:37 <@Dagmar> If they lose power, I'm pretty sure the speakers are going to turn off as well
13:37 <@SuMo_D> nice
13:37 <@SuMo_D> do you have a link?
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13:37 <@Dagmar> http://www.amazon.com/AGPtek%C2%AE-Bluetooth-Receiver-Speakers-Entertainment/dp/B00AMXW6DY
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13:38 <@Dagmar> Generlaly just searching for 'bluetooth reciever' finds them, although some are basically meant to shove into a 30-pin iPhone dock so you can use any bluetooth sender
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13:38 <@SuMo_D> that's awesome
13:39 <@Dagmar> Yeah I started poking at AdaFruit thinking surely sommeone's got this as some kind of goddamn piece I can buy now
13:39 <@SuMo_D> I wonder if you could pull it apart and do something else
13:39 <@SuMo_D> yeah the bluefruit
13:39 <@SuMo_D> I've been peeking at it
13:39 <@Dagmar> That's HID
13:40 <@Dagmar> Considering you can buy the damn things for $9 and all they really require is 5V @ 500mA, I can't see much point in trying to homebrew that
13:40 <@Dagmar> Probably someone should just make them as a single chip you can socket
13:40 <@SuMo_D> probably
13:41 <@Dagmar> I'm going to pick up another 12v USB car adapter at the Walgreens tonight and just strip the case off it for the power
13:41 <@SuMo_D> :)
13:41 <@Dagmar> I'm likely to just encase the entire result in chemosetting plastic
13:41 <@SuMo_D> chemosetting plastic? what's that
13:42 <@SuMo_D> and where do I get it :D
13:42 <@Dagmar> There's no point in fucking aroudn with a soldering pencil and voltage regulator nonsense when I can just peel pieces off a $2 piece of equipment and be done with it
13:42 <@Dagmar> Plast-aid
13:42 <@Dagmar> http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=plast-aid+repair+plastic
13:42 <@Dagmar> It fucking _reeks_ but it's stupidly easy
13:42 <@Dagmar> You just mix the white powder and godawful smelling liquid, stir a bit, and then pour or brush onto whatever
13:43 <@SuMo_D> yeah, that's always the thing with hardware these days, well... I could do this the hard way... or do it the cheap china stripped down way
13:43 <@SuMo_D> interesting
13:43 <@Wilpig> you had my attention at stripping
13:43 <@shapr> Did anyone figure out what's up with Google Hangouts? We're having problems here too.
13:43 <@SuMo_D> I had to deal with refitting some god awful ABS all weekend
13:43 <@Dagmar> It doesn't stick to anything that stickers won't stick to
13:43 <@Wilpig> shapr: it's fucked
13:44 <@Wilpig> http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en&v=status
13:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: Apps Status Dashboard (at www.google.com)
13:44 <@Dagmar> So like, if you've drilled a hole in something plastic, you can rough the inner edges a bit for a better hold, simply _tape_ a piece of sticker backing over one side of the hole, and then pour unset plast-aid into the hole from the back
13:44 <@Dagmar> In about 15 minutes it'll be cured enough to remove the waxy paper
13:44 <@SuMo_D> cool - good to know
13:45 <@SuMo_D> you ever seen this stuff? http://www.smooth-on.com/
13:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: Smooth-On, Inc. - Mold Making & Casting Materials Rubber, Plastic, Lifecasting, and More (at www.smooth-on.com)
13:45 <@shapr> http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en&v=issue&sid=22&iid=9cb1a82cdfa9e2ce88ca138c4af8915d
13:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: Apps Status Dashboard (at www.google.com)
13:45 <@Dagmar> I'm about to use the stuff to replace some screw mounts on my bike farings that have been stripped out
13:45 <@SuMo_D> the spray silicone is amazing
13:45 <@shapr> Wilpig: oh, you already knew that :-P
13:46 <@Wilpig> yes.  we use gchat here at work and it went broken before I left to get lunch
13:46 <@shapr> Same here
13:46 <@shapr> Though we're considering switching to IRC :-)
13:46 <@Dagmar> OOooh that would be good for LED lenses or blobby badging covers
13:46 <@Dagmar> Handy handy handy
13:46 <@Wilpig> shapr: we use both
13:47 <@SuMo_D> yep!
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13:48 <@SuMo_D> I don't think I can use it.... I'm pretty chem sensitive... but its sure awesome!!!!
13:48 <@Dagmar> Shucks.  The clear polyurethane has all these warnings on it
13:49 <@Dagmar> Ah this Tarbender stuff looks like it doesn't require approval from the provisional government tho
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14:02 <@Shadow404> anyone use hydraulic cement?
14:06 <@Dolemite> Yes, to plug up some leaks in the crawlspace from behind the front porch.
14:08 <@Dagmar> Ah just stuff some Legos in there and spackle over it
14:08 <@Shadow404> i got a 50 gallon rain barrel thats got a 1 inch crack, think that stuff will work Dolemite?
14:09 <@Shadow404> thinkink place cement on inside of barrel to have water hold cement agaist the inside of the barrel
14:10 <@Dagmar> What's the barrel made of?
14:11 <@Dagmar> http://www.seepage.com/learning-center/basement-waterproofing-solutions-whats-wrong-with-hydraulic-cement
14:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Basement Waterproofing Solutions: What’s Wrong with Hydraulic Cement? (at www.seepage.com)
14:12 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: plastic
14:12 <@Dagmar> OH.  Just use some epoxy then
14:12 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: you don't like black gold?
14:13 <@Dagmar> You want something more flexible than cement that will *most importantly* stick to the barrel
14:13 <@Shadow404> hmm, what kind Dagmar?
14:13 <@Dagmar> Hell, practically anny
14:13 <@Dagmar> There's stuff on that site SuMo linked earlier that would do
14:13 <@Dagmar> Put some duct tape or something on the outide, turn the thing on it's side, and pour whatever into the gap
14:13 <@Shadow404> grr, ill need to drain the barrel to that crack level, but that was inevitable
14:14 <@Shadow404> if this season has proved anything, it will be plenty wet this year
14:16 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: that was lovely spam on the root list
14:19 <@Wilpig> agreed
14:19 <@Wilpig> but we're all about getting money from magic somehow for being a non-profit right?
14:20 <@SuMo_D> well here's a nifty fact.... the Prius sputters out something like its alarm before it craps out and dies.....
14:20 <@Dolemite> hrmm.  When did you send it?
14:20 <@SuMo_D> sad prius :(
14:20 <@Dolemite> I have no emails since JonnyX's from 2 days ago
14:21 <@Wilpig> the nashville2600 root list
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14:21 <@Wilpig> just sent it to you dol
14:23  * benthemeek raises hand to say that he has last seen jonnyx since before emails
14:23 <@benthemeek> or after
14:23 <@benthemeek> anyway I saw him last
14:24 <@benthemeek> He and Codex were working on a professional looking website that we can steer potential sponsors to
14:24 <@benthemeek> and replace one of the three we have now
14:24 <@Corydon76-home> benthemeek: You saw him last?  That makes you the primary suspect.
14:24 <@benthemeek> I saw him saturday afternoon at 5pm
14:25 <@benthemeek> ..In the library with a candle stick...
14:25 <@Dolemite> Hrmm.  Ok.  I guess I was somehow dropped from the nashville2600.org mailing list.
14:26 <@benthemeek> As far as I know he and codex met again yesterday continue more work on the site
14:26 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: nothing major, just someone looking for the IT person in our organization, so they could contractually provide a new site for us, probably made from some cookie-cutter templates that won't be maintained and will be compromised in 3 minutes
14:26 <@Dolemite> Yeah, Wilbur forwarded it to me
14:26 <@Corydon76-home> It got appropriately filtered into my Spam folder, and it's since been deleted, here
14:28 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: do I even want to ask what framework they've chosen to infect the website with?
14:30 <@Dagmar> So... no problems there
14:30 <@Dagmar> We make them flip that to being their "devel" environment and use wget to clone it as _static documents_
14:31 <@Dagmar> If we're lucky, people will view the "Made with Noobsauce 1.5.2 frameworks" as a joke.
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14:33 <@benthemeek> Wilpig: I will let you wait and see :) You can then commence the attempts to deface it
14:33 <@benthemeek> actually they want to present it to everyone and have everyone take a look and see what they think before going live or anything
14:33 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: it's not me that you have to worry about.  it;s the script kiddies a year from now that turn it into an ad spewing google shithole
14:34 <@Wilpig> but you have confirmed that they intend to use some dumbshit framework
14:34  * benthemeek is mum
14:34 <@Dagmar> Wilpig is right
14:35 <@benthemeek> But just so you know, i did say that there will be objections to using any type of templated system for that reason
14:35 <@benthemeek> so warning was given
14:35 <@Dagmar> We can't afford to leave a lot of code sitting out there active if the "developers" are going to turn around and go "Well, that was a vulnerability in Lamework 1.5.2"
14:35 <@Dagmar> ...and there's ways of eliminating that code exposure.
14:35 <@Wilpig> template is nothing.  EXPLOITABLE FRAMEWORK THAT NOBODY WILL BE MAINTAINING is a problem
14:36 <@Dagmar> Wilpig++
14:36  * benthemeek is an observer
14:36 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: as far as defacing it.  http://phreaknic.info/pn18/defacecomplete.html
14:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: Sooper srs guise (at phreaknic.info)
14:36 <@Wilpig> don't be a fly on the wall.  bring up the point of who is going to maintain it.
14:36 <@Wilpig> be proactive.  head the problem off BEFORE it's a problem, again
14:37 <@benthemeek> I think the plan is to continue to use the same saite going forward
14:37 <@benthemeek> but allow people to suggest template changes or something
14:37 <@benthemeek> I got in trouble the last time i said to much on channel, so I would rather wait til they announce it etc before I go letting the cat out of the bag
14:37 <@Wilpig> haha getting in trouble for talking about shit
14:38 <@Wilpig> that's fantastic
14:38 <@Dagmar> If they're planning on using Joomla let me say right now, I'll skin them.
14:38 <@Dagmar> ...and I am not offering to restyle it.  I am speaking literally of what I will do.
14:38 <@benthemeek> No what I mean is that if I share plans that aroent finalized (the by laws for instance) I create needless drama that noone needs to worry about
14:38 <@shapr> What about using jekyll or hakyll or one of those "generate static html" frameworks?
14:39 <@benthemeek> Dagmar: lol
14:39 <@Dagmar> sharp: wget involves almost zero documentation reading
14:39 <@shapr> true that
14:40 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: the unfinished bylaws needed to be headed off at the pass before that shit even got brought up as a possibility
14:40 <@shapr> Needless drama is a consistent part of tech communities.
14:40 <@benthemeek> Well all I am saying is don't pronounce judgement until it is an official communication from jonnyx (or a sanctioned one) My chat on this channel is not.
14:40 <@Wilpig> the fact that dummy one and dummy two are still listening to crazypants is part of the problem
14:40 <@benthemeek> I dont think they are
14:40 <@benthemeek> I mean she wasnt there or involved at all
14:40 <@Wilpig> sure she is
14:41 <@benthemeek> well saturday she wasnt
14:41 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: Don't sweat it.  We're not going to get terribly upset about anything but Joomla
14:41 <@benthemeek> I cant speak for the rest
14:41 <@Dagmar> ...or maybe using Neocities webpage generator
14:41 <@Dagmar> ...or trying to make it look like the site formerly known as fucking underscore.
14:42 <@Dagmar> Just know that if they use a framework and I see something go across Full Disclosure about it, if it's not already patched, I will be defacing the site with a picture involving faces and my own penis
14:42 <@benthemeek> I don't like calling anyone crazy pants for the record, but her online persona is so volatile I think the other officers are also beginning to understand and use kid gloves
14:43 <@Wilpig> personally I like having the archives of the various versions of the site up.  some of them were neat.
14:43 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: it's crazypants or raving cuntbag.  you can pick one
14:43 <@Wilpig> i'm fine with both
14:43 <@Dagmar> "That rabid bitch"
14:43 <@benthemeek> I am with what oddball said earlier, in person she is a normal quite nice human being. I cant even make the other seem like the same person
14:43 <@benthemeek> (in my head)
14:43 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: She is _precisely_ the reason we have 2600 meetings in person
14:44 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: I do mean that literally.  A large part of the reason 2600 Meetings happen is so that people get out of the house and learn to treat other people like people instead of just some particularly elaborate form of online NPC.
14:44 <@benthemeek> lol
14:45 <@Dagmar> You laugh but this is the wisdom of the ages
14:45 <@benthemeek> Oh I agree, but the truth in this case is funny
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14:46 <@benthemeek> And judging by what she said in this channel I have to think she was seeing NPC's because I cant imagine another human being that cruel unless perhaps a sociopath
14:47 <@benthemeek> (the jab about Klixa's baby being the first instance that pops into mind)
14:48 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: I've been saying 'rabies' because I feel citing a curable disease is probably less hurtful
14:48 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: honestly i prefer to think of you as an npc
14:48 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: ...although miss crazypants went *way* past the point where I should have kept being nice.
14:48 <@Wilpig> You probably sell candles in my brain
14:48 <@Dagmar> Maybe.  I don't know what I do inside other people's heads.
14:49 <@benthemeek> lol
14:49 <@Dagmar> Just as long as you don't do like Margaret and hold me responsible for that stuff
14:49  * benthemeek buys a candle and pays Dagmar in animal pelts
14:50 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: I mean, I *could* have told her some stuff that would leave her shivering with self doubt in the dark hours of the night, but I'm _not_ going to be in the habit of doing that to people
14:50 <@Wilpig> already backing out of shit i believe you may have done. i see
14:50 <@benthemeek> Dagmar: I think that was wise
14:50 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: *I* didn't do any of that
14:50 <@Dagmar> ...and if you pull a Margaret and hit me, you're a guy and I *will* hit you back.
14:50 <@benthemeek> under neath the facade a sensitive person is in there somewhere
14:51 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: And here I am with a veritable mutant power of knowing how to get under someone's skin
14:51 <@benthemeek> hopefully the one we sort of see in conversation at the meetings
15:01 <@Dagmar> Tee hee http://imgur.com/gallery/cFdk1
15:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cutest lesson fail... - Imgur (at imgur.com)
15:01 <@Dagmar> So very cute
15:02 <@Dagmar> She's just so adorable!
15:09 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS0XiOLW_Qk <-- same ridiculous cuteness, full animation with subtitles
15:09 <@GateKeeper> Title: Mom Tries to Teach Adorable Girl Life Lesson - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:10 <@SuMo_D> So no nyan cat site this year?
15:10 <@SuMo_D> so you guys can look "professional" ?
15:10 <@SuMo_D> well... might get some more of the WNC guys out of the house...
15:11 <@Wilpig> SuMo_D: i loved nyanlarry
15:11 <@SuMo_D> nyanlarry was fun after I got to know you guys... wasn't helpful trying to get people out of the house and cross the mountain
15:12 <@SuMo_D> actually it was the one that made people talk the most
15:14 <@SuMo_D> Dude... I think we need to get some of this life casting rubber and make people masks at PN
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15:15 <@SuMo_D> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB2QHIVaahw
15:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: Lifecasting Tutorial: How to Make a Mold of Your Face with Alginate - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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15:16 <@Wilpig> SuMo_D: pn isn't happening.  you're so silly.  and 2) there are a few people that I might not be able to fight the urge to cover the nose holes
15:17 <@SuMo_D> holy crap they icing his face
15:18 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: what's ultimately ridiculous is that stranger danger is a myth
15:18 <@SuMo_D> Wilpig is it really not happening?
15:18 <@SuMo_D> I've been working/sick/generally not paying attention to you guys
15:20 <@Wilpig> SuMo_D: the motions are happening but i have serious doubts
15:20 <@SuMo_D> well I guess we'll see what the fall brings
15:20 <@Wilpig> shit like someone announcing a date and hotel, semi-officially but I have yet to see a contract stating such
15:21 <@SuMo_D> yeah
15:21 <@SuMo_D> is it back to the Halloweenish weekend?
15:21 <@SuMo_D> wasn't that when you guys had it before?
15:22 <@Wilpig> that's what hte mysterious facebook announcement said
15:22 <@SuMo_D> you guys have a facebook?
15:22 <@Wilpig> there wasn't anything on the website, or twitter
15:22 <@Wilpig> or in here
15:22 <@Wilpig> or on the mailing lists
15:22 < aestetix> So when is phreaknic not happening?
15:22 <@SuMo_D> most 2600 dudes I meet are like... facebook... plauge... booooooo
15:23 <@SuMo_D> cause yeah... its kinda evil... but its easy
15:23 <@Wilpig> it is a nasty mess but it has connections to so much
15:23 <@SuMo_D> yep
15:23 <@Wilpig> http://facebook.com/phreaknic/
15:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: Welcome to Facebook (at facebook.com)
15:23 < aestetix> Is there a non-facebook page for it? :p
15:24 <@Wilpig> aestetix: http://phreaknic.info
15:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: Sooper srs guise (at phreaknic.info)
15:24 <@SuMo_D> oh hey, I liked your page already.... I guess I knew about it or yeah, maybe its the new meds - so this infection is still here... 3rd pill's a charm
15:24 <@SuMo_D> and I'm semi-allergic to it... which makes it fun
15:24 <@Wilpig> aestetix: http://twitter.com/phreaknic 
15:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: PhreakNIC (phreaknic) on Twitter (at twitter.com)
15:24 <@SuMo_D> and itchy
15:24 < aestetix> ok then
15:25 <@Wilpig> oh apparently there was a tweet sent out.  good thing I linked those two
15:25 < aestetix> SuMo_D: I don't have a facebook account and I usually block them from my hosts file
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15:25 <@SuMo_D> aestetix why am I so not shocked
15:26 <@RangerZ> http://developers.slashdot.org/story/14/03/17/0359211/prominent-github-engineer-julie-ann-horvath-quits-citing-harrassment ohh aestetix you'll love this, lol
15:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: Prominent GitHub Engineer Julie Ann Horvath Quits Citing Harrassment - Slashdot (at developers.slashdot.org)
15:27  * Wilpig kicks late-to-the-party-RangerZ in the nuts
15:27 <@SuMo_D> wasn't that last week?
15:28 <@Wilpig> RangerZ: hit your scroll back from this morning, then again for yesterday? too?
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15:38 <@SuMo_D> oh hey RangerZ my airbrush got here and its badass
15:39 <@SuMo_D> like... Loooooooooves <3
15:39 <@SuMo_D> I wish the gravity feeds had more capacity... but yeah
15:39 <@SuMo_D> its graet
15:40 <@SuMo_D> and the compressor is great, it only turns on while spraying, less noise pollution, super impressed
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15:44 <@Wilpig> http://cpanayides.tumblr.com/post/79831695581/this-is-so-lqmccoy-save-a-vegetable-eat-a-cow
15:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: This is SO lqmccoy Save a vegetable. Eat a cow.  Won't the 'splodey hurt? (at cpanayides.tumblr.com)
15:47 <@Wilpig> I didn't even notice the shit in the background the first time.  http://cpanayides.tumblr.com/post/79657218288/gninja12-sweaterkittensahoy-djlegz-i
15:47 <@GateKeeper> Title: gninja12: sweaterkittensahoy: djlegz: I... Won't the 'splodey hurt? (at cpanayides.tumblr.com)
15:50 <@Dagmar> I found a thing!!
15:51 <@Dagmar> http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/20mx6a/great_idea_for_a_springtime_park_visit/
15:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: Great idea for a spring-time park visit. : funny (at www.reddit.com)
15:51 <@Wilpig> rofl  http://sarahj-art.tumblr.com/post/79864811028/happy-st-patricks-day
15:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Art of Sarah J Happy St. Patrick’s Day! (at sarahj-art.tumblr.com)
15:57 <@Wilpig> http://sarahj-art.tumblr.com/post/63330332426/okay-i-admit-to-laughing-while-making-this-one
15:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: Art of Sarah J Okay, I admit to laughing while making this one. (at sarahj-art.tumblr.com)
16:15 <@SuMo_D> wow watching a Joshua Davis video about graphics and code and he's nostalgic for freehand.... been awhile since I heard that name... it was a really great program for its time...
16:15 <@SuMo_D> too bad AI cannibalized it
16:15 <@Wilpig> don't be knockin' canibalism.  we love it!
16:16 <@SuMo_D> eat the COOOOOODE
16:16 <@Wilpig> code?  no.  I wanna eat people
16:16 <@SuMo_D> Jersey has had an influence on you that quickly huh?
16:16 <@Wilpig> that's a jersey thing?  oh well.  
16:20 <@Dagmar> I don't think that's a Jersey thing.
16:20 <@Dagmar> Remember, I have a _list_.
16:21 <@SuMo_D> is it everyone who's said "eat me" to you over the years?
16:21 <@Wilpig> this new couch is fuckin; huge
16:21 <@Wilpig> there is no sitting all the way back.  if you do that you're laying down
16:21 <@Dagmar> No, it's a list of rich politicians and conservatives who will be the first to be eaten when society's rules break down
16:31 <@Dagmar> I find that it's good to be prepared.
16:31 <@SuMo_D> boyscout
16:31 <@Dagmar> You woudln't want to eat just _anyone_.
16:42 <@Corydon76-home> Jonathan Swift says the young are most tender.
16:44 <@Dagmar> This isn't about nutrition.  It's about making sure those who were most resposible for the destruction of society are the first ones who are sacrificed to mend it.
16:44 <@Corydon76-home> I wasn't talking about nutrition.  I was talking about the amount of time you need to marinate meat before it stops being tough and chewy
16:45 <@Corydon76-home> So in other words, if you want the easiest to prepare, College Republicans are prime targets.
16:46 <@Dagmar> Hell, I plan on making jerky and giving it to the poor.
16:46 <@Corydon76-home> Bonus when they're the ones sexually assaulting men or women.
16:46 <@Dagmar> They don't need to be "tender"
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16:48 <@Wilpig> it's that time.  i'm outta here
16:49 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: you say that not understanding that the meat we purchase nowadays is from young animals
16:51 <@Dagmar> That's because they lack patience.
16:51 <@Dagmar> I have patience.
16:55 <@Corydon76-home> I tend to be of the opinion that those people really won't take the problem seriously until you harvest one of them and feed him to the others
16:56 <@Dagmar> Just let the republicans start war mongering
16:57 <@Corydon76-home> Just put them on the front lines.  They want to go to war, they can pick up guns and go to war themselves
16:58 <@Corydon76-home> If we required leaders who vote to go to war to spend at least 3 months out of the year on the battle lines, that would solve the problem PDQ.  They give themselves plenty of vacation time already that they won't have a single day that they're not on the floor.
16:59 <@Dagmar> Now that's just crazy talk
17:00 <@Corydon76-home> What, that they're willing to do what they send others to do?
17:00 <@Corydon76-home> I think it's only fair
17:01 <@Corydon76-home> When you think about all the people in the Bush administration who avoided being on battle lines through pulling strings... send Dick Cheney to fight the Russians
17:01 <@Corydon76-home> Let him shoot one in the face and see if this time someone doesn't shoot back
17:04 <@Corydon76-home> SFW https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/10007446_742641962413338_372754765_n.jpg
17:12 <@SuMo_D> woo hoo the car is alive again and can pick it up in the morning...  tonights plans are fucked but it could have been so much worse :D
17:14 <@Dagmar> sumo: lol my order for the bluetooth reciever and an acceptably cheap 1a USB adapter was $8.88
17:14 <@SuMo_D> nice
17:14 <@SuMo_D> I love acceptably cheap electronics
17:34 <@Dagmar> Heh.  And the _second_ adapter I ordered was $12 and change after shipping
17:34 <@Dagmar> The first one looks like it's going to take a goddamn month to arrive
17:43 <@SuMo_D> ugh
17:43 <@SuMo_D> that is annoying
17:43 <@Dagmar> Just a little, yes
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17:44 <@SuMo_D> http://www.miniinthebox.com/
17:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cool Gadgets, Electronic Gadgets on Sale, Free Shipping for all New and Cool Gadgets at MiniInTheBox (at www.miniinthebox.com)
17:44 <@SuMo_D> so far... that's the best - from china... but a bit quicker site I've found
17:52 < aestetix> SuMo_D: so, that conference asked me for my paper again
17:52 < aestetix> "If you would be able to send a work paper presentation sometime today or
17:52 < aestetix> tomorrow (its is a few weeks past the original March 7th deadline in the
17:52 < aestetix> first email, that would be great. It is to send to my faculty respondent."
17:52 <@Dagmar> Heh.  good news
17:52 <@Dagmar> amazon keeps fucking resurrecting a credit card number that expired two years ago
17:53 <@Dagmar> The slow order didn't get placed.
17:53 <@Dagmar> *cancelled!*
17:53 < aestetix> SuMo_D: what does that mean?
17:53 < aestetix> I can email her my slides, although they are likely to change a bit
17:53 <@SuMo_D> aestetix did you clarify with them if they wanted a paper or a presentation?
17:54 < aestetix> I haven't solidified the talk fully yet, but if you have a deadline
17:54 < aestetix> (for, say, a print publication) then I can get something to you.
17:54 < aestetix> that's what I told them
17:54 <@SuMo_D> just send them what you have
17:54 < aestetix> With an explanation.
17:54 < aestetix> I've never gone to a conference that needs a paper.
17:55 < aestetix> What I thought they meant... blackhat asks for slides ahead of time, and publishs a book with all the slides
17:55 <@SuMo_D> well... first time for everything
17:55 <@Dagmar> Just don't include a page that says 'This page deliberately left penis.' and you're not likely to have a problem
17:55 < aestetix> hahahaha
17:55 < aestetix> well I have a keynote, that I can send a powerpoint export of
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17:56 <@SuMo_D> yeah I was thinking that - like that medium entry you were working on should be enough
17:59 < aestetix> I have a few of those
18:00 < aestetix> Is this part of the publish or perish thing?
18:01 <@SuMo_D> meh... not really
18:01 <@SuMo_D> its a student run conference
18:01 <@SuMo_D> its more about cool ideas
18:01 <@SuMo_D> and its The New School... its more about the cool ideas
18:02 < aestetix> ok
18:02 <@SuMo_D> but they do like to think that they are somewhat related to that snootier world
18:02 <@SuMo_D> but better
18:02 < aestetix> https://medium.com/@aestetix
18:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: aestetix — Medium (at medium.com)
18:02 < aestetix> so these should work?
18:02 < aestetix> I have another one that's still a draft
18:02 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB8D2QZ9lA4 <-- am very doing this
18:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: Epic Halloween Prank by Tom Mabe - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:02 <@Dagmar> You have been watned
18:02 <@Dagmar> er warned
18:03 <@Wilpig> Bahhumbug: how did you take it when you got your first acceptance letter to aarp?
18:04 <@Dagmar> Yeah my dad got one of those for me at their place
18:04 <@Dagmar> Mom lost the bet
18:04 < aestetix> SuMo_D: so if I joined those articles together, that might be good enough?
18:04 <@Dagmar> I *did* walk out on the back patio and set it on fire
18:04 <@SuMo_D> aestetix probably
18:04 < aestetix> Heh
18:05 <@SuMo_D> the only people who actually are going to read the papers are probably going to be the organizers honestly
18:05 < aestetix> This is one of the reasons I *hate* academic.
18:05 < aestetix> academia*
18:07 < aestetix> SuMo_D: so you're telling me this should be lots of fun
18:08 <@SuMo_D> fun for this kind of thing yes
18:08 < aestetix> I was being sarcastic :p
18:08 <@SuMo_D> you'll meet at least some fun people no doubt :P
18:18 < aestetix> I also love how she mentioned the deadline again
18:18 < aestetix> I hate externally imposed structures :p
18:18 < aestetix> Like, if I'm taking a class, and there's a required reading, that makes it more likely that I will *not* read it
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19:16 <@Bahhumbug> <@benthemeek> I got in trouble the last time i said to much on channel, so I would rather wait til they announce it etc before I go letting the cat out of the bag
19:16 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously?
19:16 <@Bahhumbug> They are that worried about things that discussion of things _here_ is a problem for them?
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19:21 <@Bahhumbug> Wilpig: Hi.  Bite me.  I'm not _that_ old.
19:21 <@Bahhumbug> Yet.
19:22 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: are you a neckbeard or a graybeard?
19:22 <@Wilpig> greybeard
19:23 <@brimstone> greyneckbeard
19:23 <@Bahhumbug> ^ that
19:23 <@Bahhumbug> Getting greyer by the day :/
19:23  * Wilpig waits for Gandalfhumbug
19:23 <@Bahhumbug> Can I fling fire?
19:23 <@Bahhumbug> I dearly want to fling fire.
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19:56 < aestetix> So we can call Bahhumbug uncle scrooge?
20:04 <@Wilpig> left over naan.  fridge?  counter?  reheat?
20:06 <@Bahhumbug> Only if Uncle Scrooge gets to fling fire.
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20:18 < aestetix> vagina
20:18 < aestetix> Wilpig: see you in a week or two, bntw?
20:18 < aestetix> you should come to the 2600 meeting
20:18 <@Wilpig> i'm gonna try
20:18 <@Wilpig> do they have it at hotel penn?
20:18 < aestetix> no
20:19 < aestetix> it's at the citigroup center, I think
20:19 < aestetix> off.... like 57th and lex? I could be wrong
20:19 <@Wilpig> k.  i'll find out closer to time
20:19 <@Wilpig> hotel penn is easy to get to though
20:19 < aestetix> well yeah
20:19 < aestetix> hell I could meet you there if you want
20:22 <@Wilpig> that could be fun. after that hit up that place notlarry and I went for sushi.
20:22 <@Wilpig> that was a riot
20:22 < aestetix> wait
20:23 < aestetix> notlarry: went to NYC and didn't get arrested?
20:23 <@Wilpig> ikr
20:26 < aestetix> ok, let's play a game
20:26 < aestetix> fill in the blank
20:26 < aestetix> "bahumbug has an old, gray, wrinkled, tired _____"
20:27 <@Wilpig> rubber
20:27 <@Wilpig> hamster
20:27 <@Wilpig> hairless cat
20:27 < aestetix> is that what the kids call it these days?
20:28 <@Wilpig> http://hairlesscatblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/canadian-hairless-cat-for-sale.jpg
20:28 <@Wilpig> come on......   give it to me.  that totally fits
20:38 <@Bahhumbug> Fucking Canadians.
20:39 <@Bahhumbug> First Bieber...
20:39 <@Bahhumbug> Now this.
20:39 <@Bahhumbug> And on that note.
20:39  * Bahhumbug Zzzz
20:39 < aestetix> SuMo_D: something else just occurred to me
20:40 < aestetix> I'm guessing academics actually have time to sit around writing papers for publication
20:43 <@SuMo_D> yarp
20:43 <@SuMo_D> plus... its a student run conference - meaning... this is what students DO most of the time
20:43 < aestetix> they sit around writing papers?
20:44 < aestetix> someone explained to me that usually you do research, write a paper, and then give a talk about the paper
20:44 < aestetix> rather than giving a talk, and putting together a paper about the talk
20:44 <@SuMo_D> yeah... that's probably true
20:45 <@SuMo_D> but again... like I've told you before its The New School.... its got all sorts and its not as standard as most academia
20:45 < aestetix> I know
20:45 <@SuMo_D> I saw an hour long talk about the feelings of robots one year
20:45 <@SuMo_D> where we watched tickle me elmo get set on fire
20:45 <@SuMo_D> and talked about it
20:47 <@SuMo_D> FYI citigroup building is also where the apple corporate offices are in nyc.... in case you want to have fun. I had an interview there once and got stuck in the elevator for an hour afterwards
20:48 <@SuMo_D> lots of good midtown delis around there... not much else...
20:52 <@SuMo_D> wow... I want to go to this just to see who shows up http://www.eventbrite.com/e/poetry-for-a-midlife-crisis-tickets-10783205859?aff=es2&rank=5&sid=73918f4fae3711e3931c22000aaa037d
20:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Poetry for a Midlife Crisis- Eventbrite (at www.eventbrite.com)
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21:07 <@notlarry> aestetix: yes, I did go to nyc and didn't get arrested.  Statute of limitations or some such thing.
21:09 < aestetix> hehe I found a compromise
21:09 < aestetix> I'm taking one of my articles, and modifying it so that instead of links, it has footnotes
21:11 <@SuMo_D> there ya go
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21:12 <@SuMo_D> hey... so I haven't eve really worked with an android tablet... but thinking of trying to get ahold of some cheap ones for the kids program. They're web enabled... so... they'd be able to use codebender.cc and tinkercad.com and then download them onto another machine for output right? but can't save directly to the tablet ? is that how it works?
21:12 <@SuMo_D> Cause... everything is ap based like the caca ipads
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21:27 < aestetix> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7mzalc7fefonggm/The%20Genesis%20of%20NymRights.pdf
21:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - The Genesis of NymRights.pdf (at www.dropbox.com)
21:27 < aestetix> look I wrote a paper
21:27 < aestetix> it even has footnotes and stuff
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21:32 <@SuMo_D> nice
21:34 < aestetix> I guess I'll find out if its good enough :p
21:35 <@SuMo_D> yep
21:36 <@SuMo_D> might be a little short... but fuck it they didn't give clear terms right?
21:37 < aestetix> correct
21:39 <@SuMo_D> so do you know the question to my tablet question aestetix?
21:40 < aestetix> the what?
21:41 < aestetix> oh
21:41 < aestetix> I don't know
21:55 <@SuMo_D> doh
21:55 <@SuMo_D> well... hopefully somebody does
22:08 <@Wilpig> http://time.com/24894/gravity-waves-expanding-universe/
22:24 <@Dagmar> sumo: Find one and try it
22:24 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: THe performnce of browsers on tablets is pretty variable
22:25 <@SuMo_D> ok yeah... we just need something simple
22:26 <@SuMo_D> I should hit up the #arduino channel if they have any recommendations
22:31 <@SuMo_D> holy shite...... somebody actually made... THIS http://style.thatdailydeal.com/home.php?id=27831&pop=off
22:31 <@GateKeeper> Title: That Daily Deal (at style.thatdailydeal.com)
22:40 <@Wilpig> I swear i've seen that on tv
22:58 < aestetix> oh boy
22:58 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/paulg/status/445239807132721152
22:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / paulg: Most disputes have two sides. ... (at twitter.com)
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