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00:37 < oddball> hahahaha... my old college buddy that is a magic player is pretty sure he's one of the "victims" of what's being refered to as "crackgate."
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03:26 < RangerZ1> oddball: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r63agrW2CLA
03:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ass Crack BANDIT of Magic The Gathering! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:41 < aestetix> you know
03:42 < aestetix> it just figures that a major political battle breaks out in NSTIC right before I'm supposed to give a talk about it at a conference
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07:41 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:53 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: you happy now?
07:53 <@Dolemite> I haven't looked, yet, but it's possible.
07:56 <@Dolemite> So you gave up on the idea of adding in icons?
07:57 <@Dolemite> Or you've just done that for now to shut me up and then you'll look again later?
07:57 <@Wilpig> yeah that
07:58 <@Dolemite> Ok, then just one last change, but I can do that.  You are showing the port number rather than the port name
07:58 <@Dolemite> For patch panels that will likely be the same, but not for endpoint devices
07:58 <@Wilpig> only on the last port cause I didn't feel like fixing that
07:58 <@Dolemite> well I can fiss it
07:59 <@Dolemite> Now I need to look at Jose's changes...
07:59 <@Wilpig> yeah i'm afraid of that
08:00 <@Wilpig> awwww fuck.  he was in common.js
08:00 <@Wilpig> that just does not seem good to begin with
08:00 <@Dolemite> So I like his gradient arrows better
08:01 <@Dolemite> but when he does the refresh after the shift-mouse or ctr-shift-mouse, it's not refreshing to the air flow view
08:01 <@Wilpig> .... he does not understand what canvas.save() does
08:01 <@Dolemite> plus air flow isn't shown in the composite like it was before
08:06 <@Wilpig> okay i'm missing something....
08:06 <@Wilpig> https://github.com/samilliken/openDCIM/commit/036355297dfeeb8f309c7ee5f0687772fbe5940e#diff-bfd10ae055384f7315293d728b05c2bfR286
08:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Handling of "FrontEdge" property on cabinets #375 · 0363552 · samilliken/openDCIM · GitHub (at github.com)
08:06 <@Wilpig> wtf with the $rear=false?
08:07 <@Wilpig> for inverting the order?
08:11 <@Dolemite> Ugh.  Variable names in Spanish.
08:12 <@Dolemite> I see what you mean.  I don't see $rear referenced in the function at all
08:12 <@Wilpig> it's there
08:12 <@Wilpig> just in a crazy one line if
08:13 <@Wilpig> both of those ifs need to be replaced with simple cases
08:13 <@Dolemite> oh, yep, I see it
08:15 <@Wilpig> when I tried to hit the row view.  [Thu Mar 13 07:14:20 2014] [error] [client 96.239.100.47] PHP Fatal error:  Call to a member function fetch() on a non-object in /home/wilpig.com/openDCIM/infrastructure.inc.php on line 2192
08:16 <@Dolemite> yeah, and I can't get his mouse functions to work when inside of a zone highlight
08:16 <@Dolemite> Ok, shift+mouse works in the zone, but not ctrl+shift+mouse
08:18 <@Wilpig> bah...  why?!  $.post("",{cabinetid: id, airflow: frontedge, row: e.ctrlKey}).done(function(){location.reload();});
08:18 <@Wilpig> why reload the page?  when you could just reload the canvas?
08:19 <@Wilpig> I need to make that more dynamic
08:19 <@brimstone> .done(function(){computer.reboot();})
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08:21 <@Wilpig> he also just made it where any jackhole can change the airflow direction on a cabinet
08:35 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: I found the error
08:40 <@Dolemite> Ugh
08:40 <@Dolemite> brimstone: +1
08:51 <@brimstone> i heard someone say "sure, javascript is easy when you reload the page after every operation, imagine if your C program got to reboot after every operation"
08:54 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: pull
08:54 <@Wilpig> fuck
08:55 <@Wilpig> forgot some breaks
09:45 <@Dolemite> It still doesn't go back to the Air Flow view after you change direction on a cabinet
09:45 <@Wilpig> That's because of how he's reloading the page
09:46 <@Wilpig> works in Firefox
09:46 <@Wilpig> not in chrome or safari.
09:46 <@Dolemite> Oh.  I thought that's what you were working on fixing.
09:46 <@Wilpig> didn't test in IE
09:46 <@Wilpig> the way that is being done is just not good
10:10 <@Dagmar> Why do you give a shit about a browser with a 15% market share
10:11 <@Wilpig> cause of government assholes that require its usage
10:12 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING PEOPLEZ!
10:12  * shapr hops calmly
10:12  * Wilpig kicks shapr in the nuts
10:12 <@shapr> ow?
10:12 <@shapr> Wilpig: I have this vague feeling that you don't like mornings.
10:13 <@Wilpig> I'm fine with mornings.  just not with overly happy assholes in the morning
10:13 <@Dagmar> Early morning cheerfulness is not a positive survival outcome technique in this channel
10:13 <@shapr> aw
10:13 <@shapr> Wilpig: I'm just happy, not an asshole!
10:13  * Wilpig kicks shapr in the nuts again
10:13 <@shapr> haha
10:13 <@shapr> Hey, did I show you the nifty Python code I learned about yesterday?
10:14 <@shapr> Wilpig: Isn't this nifty? next(i for i, sublist in enumerate(weeks) if today in sublist)
10:15 <@Dagmar> No.
10:15 <@shapr> Dagmar: And now I DID show you the nifty code! Aren't you excited?
10:15  * shapr cackles happily
10:17 <@Dagmar> You know your parents never wanted you, right?
10:17 <@shapr> I never much minded.
10:19 <@Dagmar> By the way, what fucking lunatics do we need to hold reaponsible for the code above?
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10:19 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: there is but one lunatic to hold responsible for this and his name is shapr.  He's the dude over there grasping his balls.
10:19 <@Dagmar> WTF language is that tho
10:22 <@Dagmar> Basically, I want to know who thought it would be a good idea to use next() like that
10:22 <@shapr> It's Python!
10:23 <@Dagmar> That explains a lot then
10:23 <@shapr> A Haskell solution would have been significantly shorter, being all of "findIndex . elem"
10:24 <@Dagmar> ...and the point of the function is to?
10:24 <@shapr> find the index of the sublist that contains a particular element.
10:25 <@shapr> You have a list of lists, you want to find the index of the sublist that contains a particular element.
10:25 <@shapr> How would you write that in your choice of language?
10:26 <@Dagmar> Well, first I'd ask for the problem to be explained in English.
10:26 <@Dagmar> ...because a question which involves a very specific type of data structure tends to not allow for anything but one particular solution.
10:26 <@shapr> You have a list of lists, something like [[1,2,3],[4,5,6],[7,8,9]] and you want to find the index of the sublist that contains the element 8
10:27 <@shapr> Dagmar: That's often a point.
10:27 <@Dagmar> No, high school kids in programming classes have lists like that.
10:27 <@Dagmar> Your first statement on it used the word 'weeks'.  This leads me to believe this is some kind of calendaring issue.
10:27 <@shapr> This came up in my work code because I used Python's calendar module to give me a list of weeks in a year.
10:27 <@shapr> Dagmar: You got it.
10:28 <@Dagmar> `seq 1 52`
10:28 <@Dagmar> Done.
10:28 <@Dagmar> There are 52 weeks in a year.
10:29 <@shapr> I want a list of weeks that contain datetime instances for multiple times in a day.
10:29 <@shapr> Times our sales guys want to be able to reserve for particular clients.
10:29 <@shapr> So I generated timedeltas from a list of times, and got the cartesian product of weekdays and timedeltas.
10:30 <@Dagmar> Yeah so for that a list of lists was a mistake to begin with then
10:30 <@shapr> mon,tues,wed,thurs,fri × 9,10,11,13,14,15
10:30 <@Dagmar> As were timmedeltas.
10:30 <@shapr> Dagmar: What would you suggest?
10:30 <@Dagmar> epoch.
10:30 <@shapr> huh?
10:31 <@Dagmar> If there's something worth doing on a computer involving time, it's worth doing with epoch seconds.
10:31 <@shapr> Why do you think that is true?
10:31 <@Dagmar> If all these thing were in epoch seconds, there would be no need for the second level of lists.
10:31 <@shapr> I don't have an opinion one way or the other.
10:32 <@shapr> Ah, the second level of lists is so users can page back and forth looking for a time to reserve.
10:32 <@Dagmar> It's true because one of those things that is a magical GNU thing that so many coder for reasons of insanity or stupidity ignore is that glibc has functions for this shit
10:33 <@Dagmar> They can be trusted.  Any date and time, in basically any time zone, can reliably be converted to and from epoch seconds.
10:33 <@Dagmar> If you convert everything to epoch seconds and manipulate it as a simple list, you're practically done
10:34  * shapr thinks about that
10:34 <@Dagmar> The only time it's really appropriate to take that date out of epoch seconds is when you're showing it to a user on the screen
10:34 <@Dagmar> There are functions for very simply testing which day of the week, or which ISO week of the year a particular time falls into as well.
10:35 <@Dagmar> At the moment they're 32-bit ints
10:35 <@shapr> until 2038...
10:35 <@Dagmar> Some distros are already switching to a 64-bit int format
10:36 <@Dagmar> Well, we've still got plenty of time, and this isn't even a big refactoring.
10:36 <@Dagmar> Everyone who doesn't code like an asshole and tries to declare the shit as a word or some other deranged type that isn't what it should be isn't likely to have to do anything
10:36 <@Dagmar> ...but then again we've recently caught the UCD SNMP guys doing dumb shit with socket data types
10:37 <@shapr> People just do dumb shit.
10:37 <@shapr> I certainly do dumb shit sometimes, and I'm a modestly superior person.
10:37 <@shapr> :-D
10:37 <@shapr> But seriously, everybody makes mistakes.
10:37 <@Dagmar> 1394721443 <-- epoch time for "about 20 seconds ago"
10:37 <@shapr> :-)
10:38 <@shapr> You make some good points.
10:38 <@Dagmar> Make all times epoch, entire mess becomes one flat list
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10:38 <@shapr> But the GUI shows weeks, and the clients and sales people think in weeks.
10:38 <@Dagmar> People have this unpleasant tendency to get it into their heads that just because they came up with a particularly fancy solution that it's actually the right approach to the problem.
10:38 <@shapr> Yeah, I think you're right, the weeks datastructure is a bad idea all around.
10:38 <@Dagmar> shapr: ...and like i've already said, it's trivial to take any datespec and turn it into an epoch time
10:39 <@Dagmar> It's like _really_ easy in perl, and I think python probably has similar functions.
10:39 <@shapr> Dagmar: Yup, I certainly do that myself. But when I throw the ideas out into the world, people tactfully tell me how I could improve!
10:39 <@shapr> Yup, it's easy in the languages I use.
10:39 <@Dagmar> You just throw the year, month, date, hour, minute, second, and maybe tz into an array, throw at date funciton, get int back
10:39 <@shapr> I wanted to learn Perl once, but the community permanently pissed me off.
10:39 <@Dagmar> Some of them are insane.
10:40 <@Dagmar> Most of them are fairly pragmatic.
10:40 <@Dagmar> ...but some of them are definitely insane.
10:40 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: where does critch fall in that?
10:40 <@shapr> Sometime in the early 1990s I joined #perl when it was small, and got kickbanned for asking which programmer's editor would give me syntax highlighting.
10:40 <@Dagmar> Pragmatic
10:41 <@Dagmar> shapr: At least they didn't tell you to use nano or emacs
10:41 <@shapr> So I was the 10th member of #python on EFNet
10:41 <@shapr> Dagmar: I like emacs
10:41 <@shapr> I'm using ERC Version 5.3 with GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.6, multi-tty) of 2014-01-02.
10:41 <@Dagmar> I keep catching people using it for things it just shoujldn't be used for
10:42 <@shapr> Like what?
10:42 <@Dagmar> ...but since you haven't already started running off at the mouth about org mode, it's probably not poisoned your blood.
10:42 <@shapr> haha, I LOVE org-mode!
10:42 <@Dagmar> Like, calendaring, email, graphics editing.
10:43 <@Dagmar> It's okay to love org mode.
10:43 <@Dagmar> It's not okay to sleep with it.
10:43 <@Dagmar> It needs to remain a platonic relationship.
10:43 <@shapr> Did you know that org-mode is so awesome that the Uruk-Hai made their own forked for scheduling invasions?
10:44 <@shapr> It's called orc-mode
10:44 <@Dagmar> ...and it totalle woudln't suprise me at all.
11:05 <@shapr> Dagmar: I appreciate your suggestions about that code, really helped me out :-)
11:05 <@Dagmar> No worries
11:06 <@shapr> I've been thinking about how to make personal APT boxes (advanced persistent, etc)
11:06 <@Dagmar> The only reason I figure utilizing that method isn't more common is all the fucking Windows programmers have been trained to think that time conversions are dangerous because Windows handles time in a shitty way
11:07 <@Dagmar> Holy fuck
11:08 <@shapr> I've figured out there's lots of ambient power available to run a low power box pretty much forever.
11:08 <@Dagmar> cf-agent -KId <- motherfucking war and peave
11:08 <@Dagmar> er peace
11:08 <@shapr> What's cf-agent?
11:08 <@Dagmar> Sweet crap it's still scrolling
11:08 <@Dagmar> It's emacs latest challenger for self abuse
11:09 <@shapr> ok then
11:09 <@Dagmar> cfengine is (basically) a macro language which is used for generating configurations across a network
11:09 <@Dagmar> It's being abused to handle system administration using "promise theory"
11:09 <@shapr> Ah, I've heard of it.
11:09 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to figure out why this motherfucking thign won't populate /etc/cron.allow
11:10 <@Dagmar> Without the d it says about two things, neither of which are releant
11:11 <@Dagmar> jesus
11:11 <@Dagmar> wc -l cfagentdebug.log
11:11 <@Dagmar> 6546441 cfagentdebug.log
11:11 <@Dagmar> This is what I mean by abuse
11:13 <@shapr> that's insane
11:13 <@Dagmar> Yes.
11:35 <@shapr> sure is quiet today
11:35 <@shapr> but there's drama bubbling behind the scenes
11:35 <@Dolemite> Boo!
11:38 <@shapr> so it's the calm before the worm
11:53 <@Wilpig> that bubbling is just my colon
11:53 <@Wilpig> that indian I had last night is letting me know it's still down there 
11:53 <@Corydon76-home> Cannibal!
11:54 <@shapr> howdy Corydon76-home
11:54 <@shapr> How's life?
11:54 <@Wilpig> it was lamb, not pork
11:54 <@Corydon76-home> shapr: I'm sitting here, wearing nothing but a bathrobe, unshowered, getting paid salary.  It's pretty good.
11:55 <@shapr> That is nice. Who do you work for these days?
11:55 <@shapr> I'm wearing a button down and writing fun Python code, so my life is good too.
11:55 <@Corydon76-home> A company that distributes high end goods to rental companies
11:56 <@shapr> huh, that's neat
11:56 <@Wilpig> i'm wearing this, so I think i've got you both beat.  http://psychostick.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/obey-the-beard-unisex-tee
11:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Psychostick "Obey the Beard" Unisex Tee (at psychostick.myshopify.com)
11:57 <@Corydon76-home> ...where I am the only programmer on staff
11:57 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: this is an LL Bean bathrobe with custom monogramming
11:58 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: but it has you in it, so that's at least -10 points
11:58 <@Wilpig> ;)
11:59 <@Corydon76-home> Heh
12:01 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: it would be worse though.  what if it was Dolemite in your robe?
12:01  * Wilpig heads for the brain bleach
12:02 <@Wilpig> aestetix: I hope your tumblr has been updated
12:02 <@Dagmar> goddamn people
12:02 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: If Dolemite was in my robe, I'd expect he'd been kneeling in front of my chair
12:02 <@Dagmar> $customer puts in high priority request to traffic management group, specifies only port numbers and an IP address.
12:02 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: just another reason for that brain bleach
12:03 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: you need to visualize it, first
12:03 <@Wilpig> no
12:03 <@Wilpig> god no
12:03 <@Dagmar> ...for ports that are already being handled as they're asking about.
12:03 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: but I bet you can visualize Peaches kneeling in front of my chair, though
12:04 <@Wilpig> not even gonna try
12:04 <@Wilpig> I was already sick once this week, wtf have you got against me keeping food down?
12:04 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: actually, that's a false image.  I'd be the one kneeling in front of Peaches
12:06 <@Corydon76-home> Squirt squirt jizz jizz, oh what a relief it is!
12:07 <@benthemeek> wait... stop the presses
12:07 <@benthemeek> Dagmar: You use Emacs?
12:08 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: Fuck you
12:08 <@benthemeek> Im serious do you?
12:08 <@Dagmar> Do you like to fuck little boys?
12:08 <@Corydon76-home> Emacs is a nice operating system, but it lacks a decent editor.
12:08 <@benthemeek> I have stuck with vim but I am curios
12:08 <@benthemeek> lol I had to look up what org mode was
12:09 <@benthemeek> (based on your conversation earlier
12:09 <@Dagmar> I actually get shit done, ergo, I am probably not using emacs.
12:09 <@benthemeek> You editor of choice?
12:09 <@Dagmar> vim
12:09 <@Dagmar> Followed by vim.
12:09 <@Dagmar> ...and then sed.
12:09  * benthemeek is happy with his disicion and goes back to day dreaming
12:09 <@benthemeek> boy I butchered that spelling
12:10 <@Corydon76-home> decision?  or discussion?
12:10 <@Dagmar> emacs users tend to spend most of their time finding new ways to do everything in emacs
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12:10 <@Corydon76-home> Hey, cordless
12:10 <@Wilpig> I found a new hidey hole at work and am hiding in it
12:10 <@benthemeek> Well being that I pretend to be a *nix admin by day the same as you Dagmar, I was wondering if I should bother picking up skills in another editor (emacs)
12:11 <@cordless> hey Corydon76-home, long time no talk!
12:11 <@benthemeek> but I kind of love vim... Like I write it love poetry
12:11 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: just don't fart in there
12:11 <@brimstone> benthemeek: you don't so much need emacs, but readline would be helpful
12:11 <@cordless> Corydon76-home, still in Nashville?
12:11 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: too late. :(
12:11 <@Corydon76-home> cordless: of course
12:12 <@benthemeek> I am showing my ignorance, but when I install modern vim (not vi) it always installs the read line package
12:12 <@cordless> Corydon76-home, Anything ever happen with the hacker hangout thing downtown? That skydog was working on?
12:12 <@Corydon76-home> cordless: yeah, they got evicted
12:13 <@brimstone> benthemeek: no, learn the readline keybindings
12:13 <@Corydon76-home> A couple of years after they threw me out
12:13 <@Wilpig> cordless: it's okay though cause skydog got a bunch of neat toys out of the deal and is still looking for another space, 2 years later
12:14 <@cordless> LOL. so skydog got everyone huh?
12:14 <@cordless> I saw some sort of event.. "skydog con"
12:15 <@brimstone> cordless: #hackerconsortium might be a better channel to ask in, if you want that side of the story
12:15 <@Dagmar> No, mainly he got the people who don't know any better.
12:15 <@cordless> I just finished up the military service and made it back to Nashville.. but I've tried to keep up... not so easy from Japan o.O
12:15 <@Wilpig> oh brimstone.  that's stilly talk.  there's just storytime over there
12:16 <@cordless> If all of you are on this side, I'm quite sure this is right side LOL
12:16 <@Dagmar> If you're into chauvanism, greed, and careful omissions of fact, I'm sure there's a skydogcon channel somewhere
12:16 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, fuck that dude
12:16 <@brimstone> Values of better differ per location, see store for details, offer void where prohibited
12:18 <@Corydon76-home> brimstone: the sense I always got from Makers Local 256, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, was that no one person dominated that space.
12:18 <@brimstone> nope
12:18 <@brimstone> sometimes they try
12:18 <@brimstone> but forcing everyone out of the board every 6mo, and requiring the entire board to agree to change the bylaws prevents that
12:20 <@Corydon76-home> I don't think HC ever had the opportunity to do that
12:21 <@Corydon76-home> I started an attempt to write organizational bylaws, when Trevor told me he never had the intention of ever stepping down as President.
12:21 <@brimstone> *Dictator
12:21 <@Corydon76-home> and that pretty much ended that attempt to write bylaws, since if one guy decides he's going to dominate, and everybody is his buddy, there's nothing you can do.
12:22 <@cordless> Guess I'm glad I wasn't around for that...
12:23 <@Corydon76-home> It started off as an ideal, everybody working together, and that worked well for a time.  But eventually it became Trevor's clubhouse, and nobody was ever allowed to have a different opinion, and that got old
12:24 <@cordless> I can imagine that it would..
12:25 <@Corydon76-home> I'm a bit sad about it, because I put a ton of time and money into that place, and it became all for naught.
12:27 <@Corydon76-home> cordless: so now that you're out of the military, are you working on putting your earrings back in?
12:27 <@cordless> I haven't yet, but I'm thinking about it lol
12:28 <@cordless> Corydon76-home, working on my goatee though. :). I'm sure my 14 month old son would LOVE to rip my earrings right out.
12:29 <@Corydon76-home> I always thought those earrings made you look gayer than you already did.
12:29 <@Corydon76-home> Quite endearing, actually
12:29 <@brimstone> gayer? more gay?
12:29 <@brimstone> Dickie: please advice
12:43 <@cordless> LOL
12:47 <@Dagmar> I guess that's one way to keep your kid from turning into a hipster.
13:14 <@Dolemite> Woot.  Time to go visit the sleep doc.
13:14 <@Dolemite> Later, gators
13:14  * shapr sleeps on the doc
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13:22 <@Wilpig> dol's gonna get molested
13:42 < oddball> Molested or put to sleep?  It is a sleep doctor...
13:42 < oddball> Of course, there's always the power of "and."
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13:42 <@Wilpig> he's going in for a sleep study or whatever but seems like they all just want to check the prostate now.  so yup... molested
13:42 <@Wilpig> I do like the idea of and though
13:47 < aestetix> Wilpig: hey there big boy
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14:19 <@Dickie> anyone know a chocolate soda?
14:22 <@brimstone> ask EnabrinTain to caffeinate and carbonate a Yoohoo
14:22 <@benthemeek> brimstone: O.o I have been using a *nix command line on and off for 15 years and I did not know about Alt-d, Alt-f, Ctrl-y, and Alt-b. OMG the time that could of been saved Thanks for the readline tip...
14:23  * EnabrinTain stirs in the darkness
14:23 <@brimstone> benthemeek: no prob!
14:23 <@EnabrinTain> someone Named me?
14:23 <@brimstone> i use ctrl-a, alt-. and ctrl-e all the time
14:23 <@benthemeek> yeah I do too
14:23 <@brimstone> and ctrl-u, ctrl-y
14:23 <@benthemeek> but for long stuff
14:23 <@benthemeek> jumping word to word
14:23 <@benthemeek> deleting just one word!
14:24  * EnabrinTain carbonated milk once
14:24 <@EnabrinTain> and then ate rice crispies
14:24 <@EnabrinTain> THEY SPOKE IN TONGUES OF THE DESTRUCTION OF MAN
14:24 <@EnabrinTain> also carbonated milk is as gross as it sounds
14:25  * benthemeek thinks EnabrinTain is having a different conversation than me
14:25 <@benthemeek> Im geeking out at all the time I can save if I just remember this...
14:28 <@sasquatc4> awww woot woot, cant wait to hear the new exempt salary overtime proposals
14:29 <@EnabrinTain> benthemeek: that is entirely likely. I was responding to brimstone's ping
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14:56 <@Wilpig> Dickie: no chocolate soda but we have chocolate coconut water here
14:57 <@shapr> brimstone: Are you an emacs user or something?
14:59 <@Wilpig> shapr: or something
15:00 <@shapr> brimstone: those are all emacs keybindings, right?
15:00 <@Mirage> Single guys...here's a target: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mCNO_aL4BA
15:00 <@GateKeeper> Title: Protect your Packets with SSH - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:00 <@Mirage> Cute geeky chick.. 'nuf said
15:01 <@Wilpig> myth
15:01 <@Wilpig> fake
15:01 <@Mirage> Wilpig: yeah, it could ne HugMe in drag...=P
15:02 <@Wilpig> far more likely than that other thing you mentioned
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15:10 <@Dagmar> Weird.
15:11 <@Dagmar> I'm still getting the weird-assed 500 text
15:12 <@Dagmar> So... if anyone gets just bored enough to take a whack at it (because it might be useful to more than just me) http://dagmar.evilgiggle.com/monitoring.conf
15:13 <@Dagmar> Drop it into /etc/httpd/conf.d, slap Apache on the ass, and you now have a bogus vhost for performing webserver availability checks _without making a fucking scrollfest out of the logs_
15:13 <@Dagmar> GET / HTTP/1.1
15:13 <@Dagmar> Host: monitoring
15:13 <@Dagmar> Only fucking weird issue is the server will emit a 200 OK just fine... and then the body of the message is the "We're sorry, this server encountered an internal error and fucked up" messgae.
15:14 <@Dagmar> Being that if you turn on logging it merrily logs a 200 to access log and no error anywhere I can find... great fun.
15:15 <@oddball> holy hell: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=169_1394630417
15:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: LiveLeak.com - Another POV for the Molotov shower in Bahrain (at www.liveleak.com)
15:16 <@Dagmar> Is that a Romulan crest?
15:17 <@oddball> heh
15:17 <@Dagmar> So... why are these limp-wristers trying to burn people alive, exactly?
15:17 <@oddball> I would not want to be on the recieving end of a boat load of angry people with molotcs in each hand.
15:18 <@Dagmar> At least one of the vehicles they were throwing at was just trying to get through whatever checkpoint that was
15:18 <@oddball> Folks apparently want democracy and want to get rid of the royal family in Bahrain.
15:19 <@Dagmar> Perhaps they could work on their target discrimination skills a little better
15:19 <@oddball> Of course... I have a nasty part of me that wants to respond to "why are they doing this" with "eh, is Middle East.  Is what they do."
15:19 <@Dagmar> oddball: I agree
15:20 <@Dagmar> That's probably the reason they started throwing them at that one bronze car that was just trying to get through the checkpoint
15:20 <@oddball> Dagmar: Oh, I think you were right the first time... they need to learn how to throw a bottle.
15:20 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah, they throw like bitches that's for sure
15:21 <@oddball> I love how the front line is running to get close enough, and then has to go "oh shit, someone threw way short!"
15:21 <@Dagmar> It seems like for whatever reason they were scared they'd burn themselves while throwing the thing
15:23 <@oddball> There's always a percentage of folks that start charging and then think "oh shit, are we really going to do this?!"
15:25 <@shapr> I try to do it the other way around.
15:25 <@shapr> I know it's weird to think before acting, but I really try to do that!
15:25 <@oddball> It's usually best.
15:26 <@Dagmar> I'd be trying my damnedest to land that thing on something useful, knowing you only get _one_ shot
15:26 <@Dagmar> You can't really load another clip and try again
15:26 <@oddball> And the authority figures that you're charging at don't tend to care that you had second thoughts as you were chucking rocks, molotovs, etc at them.
15:26 <@Dagmar> Exactly.
15:27 <@Dagmar> You just walked into view with a throwable *on fire* in your hand.  There is no disguising that.  Better to make it count.
15:27 <@Dagmar> Frankly it looks like the biggest hazard there was broken glsss
15:28 <@Dagmar> If they'd been throwing bottles filled with hooch, I'd worry
15:28 <@Dagmar> That would be a cause for great care
15:28 <@Dagmar> ...but it looks like they were just gasoline.
15:29 <@oddball> ...because they would be performing alcohol abuse?
15:31 <@brimstone> shapr: no, they're readline binding
15:31 <@oddball> Well... and there's the issue that most folks wouldn't think to make sure that they were grabbing 100+ proof alcohol and watch as their bottles of 80proof vodka splattered and... soaked the street.
15:31 <@Dagmar> Yeah well the >100proof alcohol burns MUCH HOTTER
15:32 <@oddball> Actually, that gets me thinking... these islamic nations that are having uprisings... can you buy alcohol in these countries?
15:32 <@Dagmar> Of course you can
15:32 <@Dagmar> THose rules only apply to poor people
15:33 <@oddball> Well... I meant legally.
15:35 <@Dagmar> What part of "those rules only apply to poor people" is confusing you
15:36 <@Dagmar> You're not likely to find a Brat & Beers place there, but I'm sure you can still obtain alcohol
15:36 <@oddball> yeah... I know...
15:42 <@shapr> brimstone: where does readline get its bindings? emacs, right?
15:44 <@brimstone> no idea really shapr
15:44 <@shapr> I'm pretty sure they come from emacs.
15:45 <@brimstone> [Citation needed]
15:50 <@shapr> """Although the Readline library comes with a set of Emacs-like keybindings installed by default, it is possible to use a different set of keybindings"""
15:50 <@brimstone> don't trust it, looks like python
15:51 <@shapr> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Readline -> Readline key bindings are taken from the text editor Emacs, but can be customized.
15:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: GNU Readline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
15:51 <@shapr> brimstone: better?
15:51 <@brimstone> yup
15:51 <@brimstone> thanks
15:51 <@brimstone> benthemeek: emacs is only good for its keybindings
15:56 <@shapr> haha
15:59 <@Dagmar> Most of what everyone needs is just up-arrow and ! anyway
16:03 <@shapr> I like zsh's "ls **/*html"
16:03 <@shapr> and the extended glob qualifiers where I can ask for a particular size range or accessed more than N months ago.
16:28 <@brimstone> or being able to run `vim -p **/*asdf*(.)` and only edit text files
16:28 <@brimstone> combining `find` and another command, basically
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17:13 <@Dagmar> Anyone know of a place one can semi-anonymously post PDFs at?
17:19 <@shapr> er, yeah... I keep finding research papers on those sites... scribd or something?
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17:32 < aestetix> vagina
17:38 <@Dagmar> shapr: I wound up just referring the guy to Dropbox
17:38 <@Dagmar> shapr: I did give him ample opportunity to tell me who he needed to evade tho
17:38 <@Dickie> Gay activist judges
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17:56 <@Corydon76-home> Are those activist judges who happen to be gay or judges who happen to be gay activists?
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18:41 < aestetix> I am getting older
18:41 < aestetix> I can tell because our interns look younger and younger
18:45 < aestetix> anyone here good with chef?
18:46 < aestetix> trying to get chef-vault working, but it keeps giving me a public key issue
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19:25 <@RangerZ> advisor: "hey mike, you know that work you were working on for a really long time... you should write a paper about that and try to get it published" me: "sure, that sounds great" advisor:"well the abstract is due in 2 days, and the paper in 9" me:"GREATTTT!!!!....."
19:26 < aestetix> well
19:26 < aestetix> you know it well by now, right?
19:26 <@RangerZ> yes/no, thats not the issue
19:26 <@RangerZ> i know it well, hell gave a talk on it 2 PNs ago
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19:26 <@RangerZ> (it wasn't even finished then honestly)
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19:27 <@RangerZ> but, writing an academic paper is a LOT of revising, editing, etc
19:28 <@Wilpig> bribing
19:28 <@RangerZ> thank god for LaTeX [pronounced (L(aah)-TeX) , not Shadow404's fetish] and BibTeX
19:29 < aestetix> RangerZ: I haven't heard Shadow404 say much about latex. Just butt play.
19:30 <@RangerZ> never have to format a paper again, just write blocks of text, and let a document layout language handle all that MLA, APA, Chicago, ACM, IEEE layout crap, lol
19:30 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX
19:30 <@GateKeeper> Title: LaTeX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
19:30 <@RangerZ> aestetix: *shrugs*
19:35 <@RangerZ> and  "lay-tek" or " lah-tek" *, since i'm on one of those, self-correcting moods, lol
19:40 <@Dickie> aestetix: I saw some co-ops driving in wearing earbuds, and I thought "When did people my age start wearing earbuds while driving?" and I immediately realized that - shit - They're not my age
19:41 <@Wilpig> Dickie: I wear one earbud while driving.  what does that mean?
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20:01 <@RangerZ> Dickie: were they much much younger, or much much older? lol
20:02 <@RangerZ> so shit... US team is 'convinced' that there was 'intervention' in the flight 370 disappearance
20:03 <@RangerZ> thats surprising that the US is saying it is terrorism
20:03 <@RangerZ> lol
20:04 <@RangerZ> though... why the FUCK can the pilot turn off the transponder
20:04 < aestetix> what would a terrorist get out of hijacking that plane?
20:04 < aestetix> I mean 9/11 it's obvious to see what they got
20:04 <@RangerZ> hostages
20:05 <@RangerZ> if anything, the hijacking idea is MUCH more likely than terrorists
20:05 < aestetix> so the hostages fought back and destroyed the radio?
20:05 <@RangerZ> if you fly 'low' enough (they won't say what 'low' is) their radar can't see you
20:06 < aestetix> oh
20:06 <@RangerZ> no, that the pilot/co-pilot or someone else who knew how to fly the plane took the plane
20:06 <@RangerZ> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/03/13/2218221/engine-data-reveals-that-flight-370-flew-on-for-hours-after-it-disappeared
20:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Engine Data Reveals That Flight 370 Flew On For Hours After It "Disappeared" - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org)
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20:07 <@RangerZ> malaysian officals are denying it
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20:08 <@RangerZ> but... at this point... they are making the Ukrainian President look like a pillar of technical precision in leadership and management
20:09 <@RangerZ> "U.S. investigators suspect Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 flew for hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, based on an analysis of signals sent through the plane's satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of onboard systems"
20:41 < aestetix> god
20:41 < aestetix> this intern looks like a child
20:44 <@Wilpig> are you sure it isn't?
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22:18 <@eryc> who mentioned me earlier.. its past my scrollback limit
22:23 <@Wilpig> past my lastlog limit.  so... don't care?
22:32 <@RangerZ> eryc: same here, I did't see you mentioned
22:32 <@RangerZ> but its probably just netsplit or something, I noticed that it flags me as being 'mentioned' when that happens
22:36 <@eryc> don't you people have logs
22:39 <@Wilpig> of course I do but I don't care that much
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23:02 <@RangerZ> actually no, I don't, I completely shut down my PC today
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23:38 < aestetix> http://www.thetrentonline.com/masturbation-ruining-life-psychologist-talks-masturbation-addiction-read-5/
23:50 <@Wilpig> does this look right for a SRV record?
23:50 <@Wilpig> _sip._tls.wilpig.org.   1H      IN      SRV     100 1 443 sipdir.online.lync.com.
23:50 <@Wilpig> _sipfederationtls._tcp.wilpig.org.      1H      IN      SRV     100 1 5061 sipfed.online.lync.com.
23:51 <@Wilpig> nm.  finally passed verification
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