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00:00 <@northrup> Synx|hm_: damn, I'll say
00:00 <@northrup> Synx|hm_: I'd also be lieing if I said that I hadn't completely locked myself out one time while traveling and thought I could make an upgrade and got it fubar, loosing my VPN and SSH into my home network.
00:00 < Synx|hm_> ya this was more an exercise in learning vlans that turned into a perminant soultion because i am paranoid as fuck and for example refuse to let my ip camers be accessable to or from the internet etc
00:01 <@northrup> it happens to the best of us
00:01 < Synx|hm_> northrup: did the same thing while i was traveling for 30 days DOH
00:01 < Synx|hm_> thank jesus it didn't take down the local network because my wife would have killed me
00:01 <@northrup> LOL
00:01 <@northrup> what are you using for IP cameras?
00:01 < Synx|hm_> shitty foscams
00:02 <@northrup> I've been looking for good qualtiy high res cameras that don't break the bank
00:02 <@northrup> I've come up empty
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00:03 < Synx|hm> ugh that time the cablemodem reset
00:03 < Synx|hm> i am using crappy foscams
00:03 < Synx|hm> h264
00:03 <@northrup> I've been looking for good qualtiy high res cameras that don't break the bank
00:03 <@northrup> I've come up empty
00:04 < Synx|hm> the foscams work but im not terrible pleased with their setup
00:04 <@northrup> how's their quality?
00:04 <@northrup> good?
00:05 < Synx|hm> ish
00:05 < Synx|hm> they are wifi so im not sure whats part my network latency etc
00:05 < Synx|hm> FI9821W v2
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00:05 < NoFault1> Synx|hm: Stock or Hi-Gain antenna
00:05 < Synx|hm> unifi has some slick looking ip cams
00:06 < Synx|hm> stock
00:06 < NoFault1> Try the Hi-Gain
00:06 < Synx|hm> im not sure thats the issue...
00:06 < NoFault1> Have tested several models and most are miserable with stock
00:06 < Synx|hm> ahh
00:06 < Synx|hm> ill keep a look out
00:06 < NoFault1> Which is why if I can I hardline them
00:07 < Synx|hm> ya id prefer that too
00:07 < Synx|hm> i had them setup for 2 months while i was out of town and while i could see ok, i could not really control them that well pan and tilk
00:07 < Synx|hm> tilt
00:07 < Synx|hm> i guess just too much latency with openvpn connection back into the network segment and a 3Mbit cap on upstream
00:07 < NoFault1> I live in an apartment complex also so not a fan of floating extra 2.4 around
00:08 < Synx|hm> ya im sure that doesnt help
00:08 < NoFault1> Considering how the FTC frowns on jamming
00:08 <@northrup> NoFault1: so what would you recommend? Foscam?
00:09 < NoFault1> depends on the use case and budget
00:10 <@northrup> NoFault1: Home camera coverage, and the budget is modest.... but I really would like to avoid paying 500+ per camera
00:10 < NoFault1> How many cameras?
00:10 <@northrup> three or four
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00:11 < NoFault1> If you don't mind going bargain and a little extra upkeep foscam are a decent route
00:11 < NoFault1> But you have to stay on top of the firmware updates
00:12 < NoFault1> PTZ a requirement?
00:12 <@northrup> do the foscams have an option for a hard wire PoE?
00:12 < NoFault1> yes
00:12 <@northrup> PTZ isn't a requirement really
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00:12 < NoFault1> look for foscam models that end with an E
00:13 < NoFault1> They cost a bit more usually
00:13 < NoFault1> We have a director who runs 5 for his home PoE
00:13 < Synx|hm> if you go the foscam route look on slickdeals for the ones you want
00:13 < Synx|hm> the prices jump around ALOT
00:13 < NoFault1> Watch out for that because foscam can be sketchy about warranty if you buy from some "discount"sites
00:14 < Synx|hm> oh good call
00:14 < Synx|hm> http://www.ubnt.com/airvision
00:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: airVision | Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. (at www.ubnt.com)
00:14 < Synx|hm> those look fucking sweet
00:14 < NoFault1> Normally it's not an issue but some people have mentioned issues when getting them from places like Woot
00:15 < Synx|hm> ya i picked up 1 on woot, 1 on groupon, and 1 on amazon
00:15 < Synx|hm> the amazon one was $30more
00:15 <@northrup> I think the airvision things are neat, but for the prices I want more resolution
00:15 < NoFault1> I picked my FI8910W's off groupon
00:16 < NoFault1> paid 35$ a piece
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00:16 < NoFault1> 45 w/ s&h
00:19 < NoFault1> For indoor if you want poe you might want to consider the 8910e and outdoor 9805e
00:21 <@northrup> I was looking at the 9805e
00:25 < Synx|hm> northrup: its magically working again, the route vpn thing
00:32 < Synx|hm> im positive its pfsense
00:34 < Synx|hm> ping
00:37 < NoFault1> northrup: Sorry, trying to smash together an HTA for my co-workers who can't use cl.
00:37 < NoFault1> I prefer ptx indoor and static outdoor on primary egress points.
00:37 < NoFault1> Rather, they don't want to learn
00:42 <@northrup> LOL
00:42 <@northrup> isn't that always the case
00:43 <@northrup> people that want to learn generally find a way to
00:46 < NoFault1> I edited one of the hta's from end point engineering because the guy who threw it together hacked it out of something else and didn't bother cleaning it up because he doesn't know how to script and as a result one of my co-workers refuses to use my rewrite because "I don't know how to script" and referenced scripting to magic.
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00:53 < aestetix> wow
00:54 < aestetix> I just totally trolled Oakland City Council
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00:54 < NoFault1> aestetix: So how did it go?
00:54 < aestetix> It's still going
00:54 < aestetix> http://oakland.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?publish_id=2
00:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Concurrent Meeting of the Oakland Redevelopment Successor Agency and the City Council (at oakland.granicus.com)
00:54 < aestetix> You can watch
00:54 < aestetix> basically there are occasional speakers
00:54 < aestetix> And then long pauses while the clerk reads off names
00:54 < aestetix> It's beautiful
00:54 < aestetix> And the council president is confused as why nobody is coming to speak
00:55 < NoFault1> Is this live?
00:56 < aestetix> yes
00:56 <@oddball> What's this meeting about again?
00:56 < aestetix> domain awareness center
00:56 < aestetix> people are speaking out against the surveillance center
00:57 <@oddball> Ah.  They wanting to listen in on everyone in the bay area?
00:58 < aestetix> yes
00:59 <@oddball> But... but... terrar!  Think of the children!
00:59 < aestetix> hahaha
01:02 <@oddball> Especially now that the 9th circuit told them that Cali's may issue carry permits aren't constitutional.
01:03 <@oddball> I mean... with a shall issue system, any body could be carrying... not just rich people with connections!
01:04 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/OaklandElle/status/441090661282881536
01:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / OaklandElle: .@aestetix Ive seriously been ... (at twitter.com)
01:04 < aestetix> god that is beautiful
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01:17 < NoFault1> Wow, hitting at hearts but a bit wonky
01:17 < NoFault1> And nice finish
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01:25 < aestetix> but yeah
01:25 < aestetix> like I have said
01:25 < aestetix> oakland city hall has been crazy lately
01:25 < NoFault1> aestetix: did you or are you talking tonight?
01:25 < aestetix> I am not speaking tonight
01:25  * NoFault1 sda panda
01:25 < NoFault1> Well fuck
01:26 < NoFault1> 2 doubles in and lack of sleep
01:26 < aestetix> Elle rocks
01:26 < NoFault1> Damn, RSA inject ftw
01:27 < NoFault1> "But I'm going to entertain your argument anyway" ^_^
01:28 < NoFault1> aestetix: Thank you, you have restored at least 2 points of my faith in humanity be exposing me to this
01:29 < aestetix> NoFault1: this is why you do not piss off Oakland
01:35 < aestetix> NoFault1: still watching?
01:35 < aestetix> This is super exciting to watch
01:35 < NoFault1> Hell yeah
01:35 < NoFault1> Might have to take a terrible carcinogen break but yeah totally watching.
01:36 < aestetix> I love how people are so liberal in yielding time
01:39 < NoFault1> roflmao
01:39 < aestetix> NoFault1: see why you don't piss off Oakland? :)
01:40 < NoFault1> aestetix: yeah, this is delightful
01:40 < NoFault1> Fuck my co-workers, they can follow the cl or get burned
01:40 < aestetix> the cl?
01:41 < NoFault1> command line
01:41 < NoFault1> They don't even know wmic os get name
01:41 < aestetix> oh
01:42 < NoFault1> mush less anything non windows based
01:42 < NoFault1> much*
01:43 < NoFault1> Their idea of apple devices comprises of "iTunes save me"
01:43 < aestetix> I am proud
01:43 < aestetix> I totally hacked city hall
01:43 < NoFault1> aestetix: props, it's pretty awesome
01:44 < aestetix> well
01:44 < aestetix> besides boosting the speaker count to 149, which will make all the news channels tomorrow
01:44 < aestetix> and causing all kinds of confusion for the city council
01:44 < aestetix> and being hilariously ironic
01:45 < aestetix> if someone runs out of time, all we have to do is call out the name of one of our founding fathers and they will get extra time :)
01:45 < aestetix> based on city hall's reaction, I don't think this has ever been done before
01:49 < NoFault1> Is crime really that bad in oakland?
01:49 < aestetix> it's complicated
01:50 < NoFault1> I've time
01:50 < aestetix> I think the issue is less crime, and more corrupt police
01:52 < NoFault1> Favorite word = "Fuck"
01:52 < aestetix> I have a feeling this is going to last a few more hours
01:52 < NoFault1> I might not make it, running on CST
01:53 < aestetix> but yeah, there are a lot of fucks being given to city hall tonight :p
01:55 < aestetix> wow, n-bomb
01:55 < NoFault1> yep it happened
02:01 < aestetix> NoFault1: you should use this video to inspire people in TN
02:01 < NoFault1> Easier said than done.
02:01 < NoFault1> Do they make these available for download?
02:02 < aestetix> yes
02:02 < aestetix> well it's archived
02:10 < NoFault1> Holy shit he started talking 5x faster
02:11 < NoFault1> aestetix: TJ or Ben F reference, nice
02:11 < aestetix> that was hilarious
02:11 < aestetix> and those names are on the list :)
02:22 < aestetix> wow
02:22 < aestetix> is that guy seriously singing a song?
02:23 < NoFault1> yep
02:24  * NoFault1 slow clap
02:27 < aestetix> Three different people just tried to cede Thomas Jefferson's time to Incognito.
02:27 < NoFault1> The reps have to be sitting there thinking wtf have we gotten ourselves into
02:28 < aestetix> NoFault1: I take it your city hall meetings are not like this?
02:28 < NoFault1> aestetix: not at all
02:28 < aestetix> let's just put it this way
02:28 < aestetix> I'm a voice of sanity here :)
02:29 < NoFault1> Hopefully it's still running when I get back but I need to get something to eat
02:29 < aestetix> oh it will be
02:29 < aestetix> I submitted 57 speakres
02:29 < aestetix> but there are about 100 more
02:29 < NoFault1> Are the archives publicly available online?
02:29 < aestetix> yes
02:29 < aestetix> I'm guessing they have gone through maybe half of the speakers
02:29 < aestetix> possibly 2/3
02:30 < NoFault1> Wow
02:30 < aestetix> Yeah. 149 were registered. 57 of those were me.
02:30 < NoFault1> Ah well off to get food
02:30 < aestetix> each speaker gets 1.5 minutes
02:44 < aestetix> NoFault1: I admit I do not envy the council tonight
02:45 <@Bahhumbug> +1 on the troll.
02:47 < aestetix> hahaha
02:47 < aestetix> someone just ceded time as benjamin franklin
02:47 < aestetix> ben franklin and thomas jefferson have had a lot to say tonight :p
02:49 < aestetix> john hancock just yielded time
02:49 < aestetix> I think roger sherman and john adams are up next
02:50 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: http://oakland.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?publish_id=2 if you want to tuune in
02:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: Concurrent Meeting of the Oakland Redevelopment Successor Agency and the City Council (at oakland.granicus.com)
02:55 < aestetix> and after him, richard henry lee
02:59 < aestetix> yes!
02:59 < aestetix> richard henry lee just yielded time
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03:01 < NoFault|Mobile> Aestetix: hows it going so far?
03:02 < aestetix> it's a lot of fun
03:02 < aestetix> NoFault|Mobile: so far, ben franklin, thomas jefferson, roger sherman, john adams, john hancock, and richard henry lee have yielded time
03:03 < NoFault|Mobile> Aestetix: nice
03:03 < aestetix> possibly more
03:04 < NoFault|Mobile> I really need to get irssi up on my new vps
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03:19 < aestetix> NoFault|Mobile: this game is called throwing their bureaucracy back at them
03:20 < NoFault|Mobile> aestetix: #winning
03:24 < NoFault|Mobile> aestetix: But in all honesty, what would one expect in such a situation
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03:48 < aestetix> NoFault1: it's still going
03:48 < aestetix> they're done with speakers, and now the council is discussing it
03:48 < NoFault1> I see that
03:48 < aestetix> this will likely take another hour or two
03:51 < aestetix> NoFault1: still listening? this is turning into a clusterfuck
03:51 < NoFault1> yewp
03:51 < NoFault1> yep*
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03:57 < aestetix> god this is entertaining
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04:04 <@Catonic> Wilpig: moving type
04:06 < aestetix> NoFault: yep
04:06 < aestetix> That's not gonna end well
04:06 < NoFault> aestetix: Well I'm out. That was bs to be honest
04:07 < aestetix> NoFault: yep
04:07 < aestetix> that's ok, we have a plan
04:08 < aestetix> Life for the city council and the mayor in particular is about to get really, really intense
04:08 < aestetix> Just wait and see how many lawsuits get filed now
04:08 < NoFault> I'd imagine quite a few
04:08 < NoFault> either way I have to be up in 4 hours and the screen is starting to blur
04:09 < aestetix> well see the thing is
04:09 < aestetix> the place they just agreed to contract to is the second choice
04:09 < aestetix> so now we reach out to the first choice and get them to file a lawsuit
04:12 <@Catonic> ok, that's throwing a stick into the process of government
04:12 <@Catonic> i.e., jam echelon
04:13 <@Catonic> there's only about two reasons to that. one of them is to prevent bad legislation from passing.
04:13 < aestetix> Catonic: yep
04:13 < aestetix> Catonic: the point is, they have to have something ready in a few months or the DHS grant expires
04:14 < aestetix> so we're throwing enough bureaucracy at them to make it go away
04:15 <@Catonic> that's futile unless the lawyers and the hackers get drunk together and go all abaddon on the procedureal rules of that civic body.
04:18 <@Catonic> you current tactic works until they suspend public commentary at the meeting.
04:18 < aestetix> which will generate even more outrage
04:18 <@Catonic> and the legal precedent is in favor of the council in the event that they should pass an illegal, unconstitional, or a void law.
04:19 <@Catonic> at some point, it becomes a breach of the peace.
04:20 < aestetix> on that note I need to sleep
04:20 < aestetix> I've been up since 5am
04:20 < aestetix> and it's.... 1:20am
04:28 <@Catonic> 328am here
04:29 <@Catonic> pussy. =P
05:38 <@Shadow404> 5:38 here, vagina
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07:36 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:42 <@Wilpig> no u
07:44 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: this will amuse you this morning and possibly annoy HR.  steamcommunity.com/id/wilpig/screenshots/?appid=213670
07:44 <@Shadow404> what what!
07:45 <@Dolemite> ha
07:46 <@Wilpig> the veal sign killed me last night
07:46 <@Wilpig> I laughed soooooo hard
07:47 <@Shadow404> wow, what type of gameplay is that game? rpg puzzle?
07:47 <@Wilpig> rpg
07:47 <@Shadow404> battle scenes?
07:48 <@Wilpig> I'll take some tonight.  it's turn based like final fantasy
07:48 <@Shadow404> cool
07:49 <@Shadow404> meanwhile i just landed an unmanned and manned spacecraft on a science on the moon
07:49 <@Shadow404> love me some kerbal
07:53 <@Wilpig> Gonna need to move plex over to its own vm.  It definitely has a memory leak that is bleeding into swap
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08:04 <@Shadow404> i see it kag from time to time, thats provsbly why
08:04 <@Shadow404> cant u set the vm to reboot on memory exhaustion?
08:05 <@Shadow404> like an upper limit reboot trigger
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08:07 <@Wilpig> that would be crazy
08:07 <@Wilpig> the problem i've seen with it is when it gets past 1GB of swap usage the vm won't shutdown correctly anyhow.  it's gonna be killed off
08:08 <@brimstone> Wilpig: which version of plex?
08:09 <@Wilpig> latest.  9.9.5
08:09 <@Wilpig> the leak was there before I upgraded too.
08:10 <@brimstone> 0.9.9.5.411-da1d892 seems to work fine for me
08:10 <@brimstone> i'm using someone's debian builds though, not upstream
08:11 <@Wilpig> it's working fine, i'm just watching my swap creep up a little each day
08:15 <@Dolemite> Must be the transcoding portion of it, because with 54 days uptime on my Plex VM (which is also my Squid proxy) I'm using a whopping 180M of swap.
08:15 <@Dolemite> 100M of that is cache
08:15 <@Wilpig> possible
08:15 <@Wilpig> after 48 hours of uptime.
08:16 <@Wilpig> Swap:  4128760k total,   282724k used,  3846036k free,   704592k cached
08:16 <@Dolemite> damn
08:16 <@Shadow404> your a creep
08:16 <@Wilpig> I'm watching for other possible sources but plex seems to be it
08:17 <@Wilpig> I think it might also have to do with the size of the content db I have
08:18 <@brimstone> Wilpig: http://slexy.org/view/s21ZjmRq0T
08:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Paste // Slexy 2.0 (at slexy.org)
08:18 <@brimstone> that'll show you swap usage by program
08:19 <@Catonic> bonk
08:19 <@Catonic> I have a massive, raging, throbbing headache
08:22 <@Shadow404> Catonic: Corydon76-home slip u a roofie?
08:23 <@Wilpig> brimstone: it's a leak
08:23 <@Wilpig> 496K - 27020 - bash
08:23 <@Wilpig> 68K - 27923 - top
08:24 <@brimstone> a leak in bash?
08:24 <@Catonic> he might as well have
08:25 <@Wilpig> it's plex.  just not sure which part of it 
08:25 <@Wilpig> it's liek the transcode kicks off, and then moves something to swap, then just abandons it and it never gets cleaned
08:26 <@Shadow404> can u turn off certain functions one at a time and rule out things?
08:26 <@brimstone> like spelling out "you" ?
08:26 <@Wilpig> the leak wasn't there before plex
08:26 <@Wilpig> I haven't updated anything else recently, the only change on the system is plex
08:28 <@Shadow404> brimstone: i would if i was on a full keyboard
08:28 <@Shadow404> typing each letter by touch screen
08:28 <@brimstone> it's two more keys!
08:28 <@Shadow404> fu
08:28 <@brimstone> also, what touch screen are you on that doesn't have predictive text?
08:28 <@Shadow404> hows that, that was two letters
08:29 <@brimstone> why'd you spell out "one" and not use 1 ?
08:29 <@Shadow404> brimstone: prefictive gets turned off in the terminal emulator
08:29 <@brimstone> or spell out "and" and not &?
08:30 <@Shadow404> & requires a long hold
08:30 <@brimstone> no response to "1"
08:30 <@Shadow404> same, long hold
08:35 <@Wilpig> brimstone: I found the problem it was a rights thing
08:35 <@Wilpig> 50800K - 2473 - Plex Media Serv
08:35 <@Wilpig> 48664K - 3214 - python
08:35 <@Wilpig> both of those are plex
08:35 <@brimstone> isn't it always a rights thing?
08:35 <@Wilpig> seems like it
08:35 <@Catonic> getenforce?
08:36 <@Catonic> I haven't had much sleep.
08:37 <@Catonic> today is brought to me by ... IV Drip Coffee. So strong, you'll jam it directly into your veins.
08:37 <@Wilpig> back to my other work this morning.  I may try to give that vm more ram later and see if it helps any
08:44 <@Shadow404> use lube
09:01 <@Wilpig> is anyone having a dull day?
09:02 <@Wilpig>  /ctcp anarchival ping
09:03 <@Shadow404> heh
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10:10 <@shapr> Goood morning random people!
10:10  * shapr hops randomly
10:14 < aestetix> so
10:14 < aestetix> I think last night was my greatest troll ever
10:14 <@shapr> Tell us!
10:15 < aestetix> shapr: when I trolled the Oakland City Council
10:15 <@shapr> that does sound impressive
10:18 < aestetix> the surveillance system was up for discussion last night
10:18 < aestetix> also, if you're signed up to speak, you can yield your time to another speaker
10:18 < aestetix> so I submitted the names of all the founding fathers to speak
10:24 <@brimstone> did you also submit the names of Parliament, you know, to have a fair discussion?
10:25 < aestetix> hahah
10:25 < aestetix> brimstone: that's for the next meeting
10:26 < aestetix> although I thought at the next meeting a list of presidents might be nice
10:26 <@Dagmar> Anyone know what was up with the TN SmartWay signs yesterday at 5pm?
10:27 <@Dagmar> For whatever reason the second line of them was saying 'IN ARKANSAS' which basically made them show crazytalk
10:27 < aestetix> http://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Oakland-to-limit-surveillance-center-to-port-5290273.php
10:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: Oakland to limit surveillance center to port, airport - SFGate (at m.sfgate.com)
10:27 <@Dagmar> Ya'll made a mistake allowing that
10:28 < aestetix> Dagmar: you mean the mayor made a mistake allowing that
10:28 <@Dagmar> So for the next little while, the cops in that area will completely roflstomp every criminal they see
10:28 <@Dagmar> Crime will drop.
10:29 < aestetix> well the thing is
10:29 <@Dagmar> ...and over the next ten years they'll simply argue that since cameras are everywhere there, and crime is so low, that cameras should be all over the city to protect everyone
10:29 <@Dagmar> aestetix: You didn't throw her out a window, so ahem
10:29 < aestetix> the surveillance is not actually going to cover any residential areas
10:29 <@Dagmar> It will.
10:29 <@Dagmar> Ten years.
10:29 < aestetix> Instead, the council voted 5-4, with Mayor Jean Quan breaking a tie vote, to gut the Domain Awareness Center so it will only monitor the Port of Oakland and the Oakland International Airport. The center was originally designed to pull in surveillance cameras, license-plate readers, traffic cameras, police records and gunshot detectors from across the city.
10:30 <@Dagmar> Probably sooner than that it'll be doing it for everywhere "informally".
10:30 <@Dagmar> These are not people who respect the rule of law.
10:30 < aestetix> yeah I know
10:30 < aestetix> well, I think we'll keep on hurling bureaucracy at them
10:51 <@Dagmar> The damn fog is getting *thicker* today
10:58 <@Catonic> moaning people
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11:04 <@Wilpig> who are you calling "people"?
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11:27 <@sasquatc4> uggh, fuckin comcast, now every morning my connection goes to shit until i can get home and reboot the modem, even get them to send a rehit to the modem and it works fine, so my rdp session now sucks ass and is barely usable until a reset
11:34 <@Mirage_> sasquatc4: http://www.instructables.com/id/Impowered-electrical-outlets/
11:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: Impowered electrical outlets (at www.instructables.com)
11:35 <@sasquatc4> hehe, guess thats one solution
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11:40 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4: So connect to the admin interface of the fucker and reboot it
11:41 <@Dagmar> Well, that's a mercy at least
11:42 <@sasquatc4> cant, just says not authorized and doesnt even give me a login to it
11:43  * shapr klix on klixa 
11:43 <@shapr> klixa: HI!
11:43 <@sasquatc4> i can view all the stats and such, just cant get to the actual admin interface
11:43 <@klixa> HI shapr
11:44 <@shapr> How's life? Done anything interesting?
11:47 <@Wilpig> she killed me, once
11:48 <@Wilpig> sasquatc4: x11 and a script to flip an outlet off then back on
11:49 <@Wilpig> err x10
11:49 <@shapr> I soldered together a raspberry pi prototyping board I got from AdaFruit last night.
11:49 <@shapr> and still failed to figure out how to assemble my four LED matrices into a single contiguous chunk
11:53 <@sasquatc4> yea, or maybe i can just have them give me a new modem, main reason why i still lease is I seem to go through one a year or so
11:54 <@sasquatc4> or find a nice one that hopefully wont die and stop leasing
11:57 < NotLarry> Goooooooood moooooooooorning se2600!
11:57 < NotLarry> that lacked sincierity
12:05 <@Dagmar> Mirage_: I'm not sure that shoudl really be an "instructible".  Generally those are relatively simple hacks.
12:05 <@Dagmar> Using a pre-release system where you have to make your own everything is a little more complex than the usual
12:06 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4: Restrictions on the admin interface are the reason I own my own modem.
12:06 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4: Comcast at one point decided to push a new config to my modem that locked me out of the admin interface.
12:06 <@Dagmar> Hell was raised.
12:07 <@Dagmar> I had to keep reminding them that this was _precisely_ the reason I own my own modem... so that I would retain the ability to access the admin interface.
12:08 <@Dagmar> I can reset the thing two different ways through a simple HTTP POST.
12:08 <@Dagmar> I can even scrape the status pages.
12:08 <@Dagmar> ...and at no point does any of this shit require me to actually get up and touch the damn thing unless it went *completely* tits-up.
12:09 <@sasquatc4> ahh, so maybe it is time to start looking at my own
12:19 <@klixa> shapr: um...well the transmission in my car is dead...and been working on getting a new one...havent really done anything else lately
12:19 <@klixa> i did move form oakland to fremont tho last night
12:19 <@klixa> did*
12:19 <@shapr> that's exciting
12:23 <@Dagmar> I just heard a great joke...
12:23 <@Dagmar> "How many Bitcoin users does ATTENTION EVERYONE WE HAVE BEEN HACKED AND ALL THE LIGHTBULBS ARE GONE."
12:26 < Synx|afk_> dogecoin is where its at
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12:27 <@opticron> shapr, where are the specs on those LED matrices?
12:28 <@shapr> opticron: http://www.adafruit.com/products/959
12:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: Adafruit Mini 8x8 LED Matrix w/I2C Backpack - Blue ID: 959 - $11.95 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits (at www.adafruit.com)
12:28 <@shapr> I just need to figure out how to wire them together, I don't know how to do that.
12:28 < Synx|hm> i want to get a pi so bad so i can create a sprinkler control system
12:28 < Synx|hm> oh and another one to control my big green egg
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12:36 <@opticron> shapr, you don't really chain them like you would with other protocols, you want to attach all four of the same wires to all the backpack units and then use the jumpers on the backpacks to set the addresses so you can talk to them individually
12:36 < Synx|hm> shapr: what are you planing?
12:37 <@shapr> opticron: Right, my problem is how to physically connect the wires
12:37 <@opticron> shapr, and with the backpacks that adafruit is using and how they've designed things, you can only have 4 of them on a given I2C bus
12:38 <@opticron> shapr, exactly the same to all of them
12:38 <@opticron> I'd just jumper them to the adjacent boards
12:39 <@shapr> Right, I don't really know how to do jumpers. After talking to crashcartpro last night, I figured I could glue them together on the sides, then use smaller wires to jumper them.
12:39 < Synx|hm> shapr: you might look into r/c plane servo wires :) you could even very likely find already wired 4 to 1 cable
12:39 <@shapr> Synx|hm: four of those 8x8 LED matrices I linked to a few lines abkc.
12:39 <@shapr> back*
12:39  * shapr is tired today
12:39 < Synx|hm> the servo wires have the 4 pin female headers that should fit that perfect if you dont feel like making it all yourself ;)
12:40 < Synx|hm> shapr: right but i mean whats the end plan? i think you were talking about some article of coathing yesterday :) im just curious what you are building it for :)
12:41 <@shapr> Oh, this is for a separate project. I have quite a few projects running concurrently.
12:41 < Synx|hm> :)
12:41 <@shapr> I'm knitting a scarf for my favorite barista. I'm putting together these four 8x8 matrices for a 'nametag'. I'm organizing the underkillt project. I'm playing with a bunch of sensors. I'm starting to do home automation with a raspberry pi, etc etc
12:42 <@shapr> Also reading up on homotopy type theory for my academic fun.
12:42 < Synx|hm> awesome
12:42 < Synx|hm> what do you do for work if you dont mind my asking?
12:42 <@shapr> Working on my flexibility and cardio fitness for better capoeira performance
12:42 < Synx|hm> lol
12:42 <@shapr> At the moment I work on websites using Python/Django
12:42 <@shapr> but I've had a bunch of different jobs
12:43 < Synx|hm> cool
12:43 <@shapr> see my resume: http://www.ScannedInAvian.com/
12:43 <@GateKeeper> Title: Website of Shae Erisson (at www.ScannedInAvian.com)
12:43 <@shapr> haven't updated it since I graduated, but it mentions some of the exciting things I've done
12:43 < Synx|hm> :)
12:44 < Synx|hm> i really need to update my resume this week
12:56 <@shapr> Synx|hm: Where's your resume?
12:56 < Synx|hm> not even in a place to be shown lol
12:56 <@shapr> no linkedin account?
12:56 < Synx|hm> ya im on linked in but i need to do that up proper too
12:57 < Synx|hm> im a newb to the real job world
12:57 <@shapr> I've had several jobs.
12:57 < Synx|hm> you want me to send you an invite oh linkedin?
12:57 <@shapr> er, sure?
12:57 < Synx|hm> oh i thought thats what you were asking lol
12:58 < Synx|hm> ya ive been employed by good ole govt for the past 10 years so this past 1 year has been my first real job ;)
12:59 <@shapr> sounds like an adventure
12:59 < Synx|hm> it has been for sure
13:01 < aestetix> man
13:01 < aestetix> If someone is a speaker, it's so hard to give them the attention/respsect they should get if they are horrendously ugly
13:01 < Synx|hm> greta va susteren much
13:01 < aestetix> This chick had some strange mouth disorder
13:02 <@shapr> oh, I thought you were speaking German for a second.
13:02 <@shapr> nån talar svenska här?
13:02 < aestetix> lol
13:03 <@shapr> Jag är så jävla trött :-(
13:04 < Synx|hm> endast med hjälp av Google Translate
13:04 <@shapr> ha
13:05 < Synx|hm> shit i need to remember to NOT put things in my clipboard
13:05 < Synx|hm> i've been in a webex with a customer all f'ing week and we keep overwriting eachothers clipboard
13:05 <@Mirage> that could be fun
13:05 < Synx|hm> yes or very bad
13:06 < Synx|hm> last week i kept copying the hampsterdance url to see if they would notice lol
13:06 <@shapr> Jag lärde mig svenska när jag bodde i Sverige flera år. Det var kul.
13:06 < Synx|hm> not sure what that is but now that i let the cat out of the bag i will not be copyng that to my clipboard ;)
13:07 < aestetix> shapr: the girl yesteday had this like permanent smirk
13:07 < aestetix> it was really annoying
13:09 <@shapr> Synx|hm: I said I learned Swedish when I lived in Sweden for several years. It was fun.
13:09 < Synx|hm> :)
13:09 <@shapr> aestetix: yeah, that's distracting.
13:35 < aestetix> http://oakland.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=1462
13:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Concurrent Meeting of the Oakland Redevelopment Successor Agency and the City Council - Mar 4th, 2014 (at oakland.granicus.com)
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13:35 < aestetix> around 4 hours in is when it starts getting good
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14:03 <@opticron> lol, silverlight
14:03 <@opticron> cute
14:05 < nachoguy> ugh, I hate silverlight
14:10 <@klixa> gta5 looks super realistic...
14:14 < Synx|hm> is that the new one for ps4 and xbox one?
14:14 <@klixa> xbox
14:15 <@klixa> oh, prolly ps4 too...im watching someone else p;lay
14:15 < aestetix> I never thought I'd do this
14:15 < aestetix> I'm going to put together a highlights video from last night's city council meeting
14:15 < aestetix> it was that hilarious
14:16 <@shapr> do it!
14:16 < aestetix> there are these stretches for minutes on end while the clrk reads off names of the founding fatheres
14:16 < aestetix> and nobody is sure what's going on
14:38 < NoFault|Mobile> It was beautiful
14:43 <@Dagmar> DOOOO EEET
14:44 <@Dagmar> I wasn't aware there was a GTAV for the PS4, but I can't see why they'd pass up the opportunity since the PS4 isn't backwards compatible.
14:44 <@Dagmar> Ah okay it's *not* out for the latest revision of the consoles yet
14:46 <@klixa> shapr: i lied
14:46 <@klixa> shapr: i did do something interesting...I got a gutar
14:46 <@klixa> guitar*
14:46 <@oddball> Dagmar: Really?  I thought the PS4 was backwards compatable.
14:47 <@Dagmar> http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/Backwards_Compatibility
14:47 <@GateKeeper> Title: Backwards Compatibility - PlayStation 4 Wiki Guide - IGN (at www.ign.com)
14:47 <@Dagmar> This is why I am in no hurry to rush out and buy one.
14:47 <@klixa> oddball: backwards compatble to an xbox?
14:47 <@klixa> :P
14:48 <@oddball> Dagmar: wel... that's aggrivating.
14:48 <@Dagmar> Yep, just a bit.
14:49  * klixa reimds herself not to comment when only paying half attention
14:49 <@oddball> klixa: When MS makes a onsole that doesn't randomly just up and fucking die, then I'll contemplate buying another system from them.
14:49 <@Dagmar> What if it still randomly decides to grind a ring on discs?
14:50 <@Dagmar> That one's my favorite.
14:51 <@oddball> Oh, my favorite was the randomly bursting into flames.
14:51 <@klixa> lol
15:02 <@oddball> No... seriously, apparently the power supplies of the first gen X-Box had a tendency to catch fire.
15:02 <@oddball> and the X-Box 360 had a nasty tendency to have the GPU desolder itself.
15:03 <@klixa> thats when you do the towel trick
15:05 <@oddball> And there's been reports of the current one just up and freezing on folks.  At least this time, there's a good chance that it's a software issue.
15:07 <@Dagmar> klixa: Is that the one where you wrap a bar of soap in a towel and beat an XBox developer senseless with it?
15:07 <@Dagmar> ...or it is just a Microsoft rep.  I can never quite get that one right.
15:08 <@Dagmar> Personally, I'm willing to do both, even if it does mean extra work.
15:08 <@klixa> Dagmar: that could work too, but no... you wrap the Xbox in a towel and turn it on...and the heat is supposed to resolder that chip (this is hearsay, i have never actually tried it myself)
15:13 <@oddball> Yeah... it's basically "cause it to overheat, and hopefully it fixes itself."
15:13 <@Dagmar> lol
15:13 <@Dagmar> I suppose that *could* work
15:14 <@oddball> A slightly more technical version of percussive maitenance.
15:14 <@Dagmar> I generally find it more amusing that the usual repair technique for that involves taking the board out and cooking it in a toaster oven or on a hot plate for about 20 minutes
15:14 <@Dagmar> Taking it out hot and sneezing on it not recommended.
15:14 <@oddball> heh
15:14 <@klixa> i ahve heard about the oven trick too
15:14 <@Dagmar> oddball: I did some percussive maintenance on the bike this weekend.  Heh
15:16 <@klixa> percussive maintenance was my first encounter with electornics repair... i was 4 and noticed smacking a flashlight makes it work again, lol
15:16 <@Dagmar> ...but hey, it got the choke unstuck.
15:16 <@Dagmar> klixa: I'm used to the type of percussive maintenance you do on a PC or a laptop, which generally means smacking it with two fingers
15:16 <@Dagmar> If it takes more than that you should be pulling out a screwdriver.
15:17 <@Dagmar> ...but in this case I flipped up the seat and punched the box over the actual engine about 4 times real fast
15:17 <@Dagmar> ...and that was strictly to punish it for leaving me stuck in the middle of campus
15:19 <@oddball> Wow... Melissa Gay did an awesome job on the Hypericon artwork this year: https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1920516_10152262591446224_1896517325_n.jpg
15:20 <@Dagmar> http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/4344395795.html <-- down to $4450
15:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: 2008 Mercedes Smart Fortwo Passion coupe / civic / sentra / corolla (at nashville.craigslist.org)
15:20 <@Dagmar> oddball: YEah that is very nice
15:21 <@oddball> Dagmar: You're thinking about getting a Smart car?
15:21 <@Dagmar> Yeah
15:21 <@Dagmar> I have only two problems with it.
15:22 <@Dagmar> 1. The engine is 70HP.  My dad's riding lawnmower is 75HP.
15:22 <@oddball> Working at Vandy, rides a scooter, planning on trading in your Beemer for a Smart car... should I refer to you as a yuppie or hipster?
15:22 <@Dagmar> 2. A mechanic I was talking to mentioned that they are apparently frequently in the shop for warped heads when people drive them at high speeds on long trips
15:22 <@Dagmar> oddball: I'm not sure I really want to trade it in.
15:23 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to sort of feel things out to find out how my neighbors feel about me having three vehicles.
15:23 <@Dagmar> I know the elio is just completely off the table now because on the scooter I can at least take one passenger
15:23 <@Dagmar> If they can't make a two-seater elio I'm just not interested
15:24 <@oddball> yup... hipster
15:24 <@Dagmar> If I traded the beemer in and got a pair of fortwos I could park all three of them in the same space
15:24 <@Dagmar> I AM NOT A HIPSTER.
15:24 <@Dagmar> I wear _men's clothing_.
15:25 <@Dagmar> My ears are not even pierced.
15:25 <@Dagmar> ...and I despise PBR.
15:25 <@oddball> You're going to buy a Mac next, aren't you?
15:25 <@Dagmar> Also, I fucking shave.
15:25 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck no
15:25 <@Dagmar> I'd be much more likely to buy a chrometop
15:25 <@oddball> hehehe
15:26 <@Dagmar> Mac = zero percent
15:26 <@Dagmar> Chrometop = non-zero percent
15:26 <@Dagmar> Another mb/cpu/ram/gpu == probably
15:28 <@Dagmar> oddball: Anyway.  It's high gas mileage, parkable just about fuckin' anywhere (if you don't carry it in with you), and I only have to drive like 14 miles a day anyway
15:31 <@oddball> I love how Elio's performance video states that it has a 3cyl fuel inected liquid cooled engine... and that's it.
15:31 <@Dagmar> It's basically a motor-trike with a body
15:31 <@Dagmar> ...but at least on a trike you can put a girl on the seat behind you
15:32 <@Dagmar> >80mpg is not an unreasonable goal
15:32 <@oddball> And the interior vid basically says "you can sit in it!"
15:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah.  One seat.
15:32 <@oddball> But fails to say if it you can sit in it *and* have someplace to put anything else.
15:33 <@oddball> For the reverse trikes, I wan a T-rex... of course, those cost a wee bit more.
15:34 <@Dagmar> They also scream "pull my ass over just out of curiousity"
15:34 <@Dagmar> ...but they're at leat two-seaters!
15:35 <@klixa> i have a mac. i am not a hipster.
15:35 <@Dolemite> Those are mutually exclusive statements
15:36 <@oddball> Dolemite: I own a Mac... so I can diagnose my mom's computer issues.
15:36 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: test now
15:36 <@Wilpig> test test test
15:36 <@klixa> i dunno why more people dont have macs :| all the fun of unix none of the annoyance
15:36 <@Dolemite> oddball: Are they similar issues to Tourrette Syndrome?
15:36 <@Dagmar> That's like asking why only 10% of the popualtion is gay
15:37 <@oddball> klixa: No... Apple introduced a whole new set of annoyances!
15:37 <@klixa> oddball: :P
15:37 <@klixa> i like macs
15:38 <@oddball> Yeah... I actually don't have any real issue with osX.  Although, there is a nasty tendency for it to have the mindset of "oh... we didn't think you'd want to do that... so you can't."
15:39 <@Dolemite> Later, kids!
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15:40 <@Wilpig> that bastard!
15:41 <@oddball> No testing for you!
15:48 <@oddball> Dagmar: On a more serious note, I would wait for the Elio to actually come out with a product and let someone else be the test subject.
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16:03 <@oddball> heh http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Jeremy-Clarkson-Letter-Piers-Morgan.jpg
16:03 <@shapr> klixa: cool! Are you able to play anything on that guitar?
16:04 <@klixa> shapr: a minor chord
16:07 <@shapr> that's a major step ;-)
16:08 <@klixa> HA  :P
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16:33 <@klixa> SuMo_D: are you here or just autojoined?
16:36 <@SuMo_D> klixa I autojoined
16:36 <@SuMo_D> but I can be here for a minute maybe 2
16:36 <@SuMo_D> sup?
16:37 <@klixa> i was just curious about laser cutters... how do they make the design? do they need something physical like the way a screenprint does or is it via computer or what?
16:38 <@SuMo_D> via comp, usually vector based for cutting and raster for engraving
16:38 <@klixa> ok..thanks
16:39 <@shapr> I use inkscape to make a vector graphic
16:39 <@SuMo_D> depending on the machine you can do various depths of cut via vector based on color and assign them different variables
16:39 <@SuMo_D> I'm still playing with that on my machine
16:40 <@shapr> SuMo_D: oh, the brand at my makerspace is a full spectrum
16:40 <@SuMo_D> yea!
16:40 <@SuMo_D> that's what I have.... they're awesome
16:40 <@shapr> that's the brand name, it's only a single frequency
16:40 <@shapr> SuMo_D: Oh cool!
16:40 <@SuMo_D> 40W ?
16:40 <@shapr> I dunno, I can find out.
16:41 <@SuMo_D> that's the most common but they've got some higher grades now too...
16:41 <@shapr> I'll be doing experiments this weekend to see what strength and speed is best for scarification.
16:41 <@SuMo_D> out resin printer that will be here in May is by them too... can't hardly wait :)
16:41 <@shapr> I'll start with paper, try leather and perhaps raw chicken, then try it on my arm!
16:42 < aestetix> god today is awful
16:42 <@SuMo_D> yeah, FS is great for doing vector cuts cause of the glass tube they have a consistent beam
16:42 < aestetix> everyone has a problem, and they are trying to make it mine
16:42 <@shapr> It does a great job on most anything.
16:42 <@SuMo_D> Trotec and Epilog use metal tubes, that last longer... but use pulses not as good for straight cutting
16:42 <@klixa> i just want heart shaped circuit boards.....
16:42 <@shapr> klixa: do it!
16:43 <@SuMo_D> klixa you gave me that idea and I have a whole bag from sparkfun
16:43 <@klixa> shapr: i might have to just do it the old fashioned way; xacto knife and nail file
16:43 <@SuMo_D> I'm going to try it soon, I gotta get stuff for our Verizon pitch in order... maybe have some time Friday or Sunday to try
16:43 <@SuMo_D> :)
16:43 <@klixa> SuMo_D: cool :)
16:43 <@SuMo_D> a lot of the sparkfun discard boards are red too
16:43 <@SuMo_D> which works out great :D
16:44 <@klixa> ive been trying to find pink boards online
16:44 <@klixa> on a realted note i found cicuit boards fabric...so i wanna make my baby a sleeper out of it..or a vest..or soemthing
16:44 <@SuMo_D> eh... you'd probably have to custom order those, I don't think I've seen a pink board except maybe once in some strange thing from Korea I took apart
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16:44 <@SuMo_D> inventables is a great place for getting acrylic in small quantities though
16:45 < aestetix> I think I just hate engineers
16:45 <@SuMo_D> there's another one too I forget...
16:45 <@RangerZ> screw you too aestetix
16:45 <@SuMo_D> aestetix that's valid
16:45 < aestetix> This new kind of geek that is flooding the bay area, completely rigid and unoriginal
16:45 <@SuMo_D> lol
16:45 <@SuMo_D> well they figure they'd flock there...
16:45 < aestetix> and steeped in this CS lesson morality of the way things are supposed to work
16:45 <@SuMo_D> and that you guys would mold them
16:45 < aestetix> they are really fuckin annoying
16:45 <@SuMo_D> oh no
16:45 <@SuMo_D> those...
16:45 <@SuMo_D> not those dudes
16:45 < aestetix> and telling me why I'm wrong
16:46 < aestetix> also, with the communication skills of a gnat
16:46 <@klixa> lack of pink circuit boards is why we dont have many women in tech
16:46 <@RangerZ> aestetix: ofcourse you're wrong, you are from oakland
16:46 <@RangerZ> pshhh
16:46 <@RangerZ> ;)
16:46 <@klixa> aestetix: rigid people think im stupid and crazy :/
16:46 < aestetix> SuMo_D: the geeks I like are the ones who ignore the rules and do cool things
16:46 <@SuMo_D> yeah I don't know what's worse... those dudes or the old school good ol' boys who think they know what's up... but can't figure out how their mouse works... but hey they ran a CNC machine in 1980 so they KNOW
16:47 <@klixa> f*** you rigid, in the box, left brained people :D
16:47 < aestetix> These geeks are stubbborn and militantlty adhere to rules
16:47 <@klixa> actually, ok i like left brained types...jsut not the anoying ones
16:47 <@RangerZ> whats wrong with being left brain and adhering to the rules? (most of the time)
16:47 < aestetix> what is a left brained type
16:47  * aestetix is left handed
16:47 <@klixa> aestetix: logical as opposed to creative
16:47 <@RangerZ> "type A" , logical
16:48 <@RangerZ> klixa: thats not quite true though
16:48 < aestetix> oh
16:48 < aestetix> got it
16:48 <@RangerZ> logical instead of emotional
16:48 <@klixa> RangerZ: ok
16:48 <@klixa> ^^ seee aestetix, trgety nitpick what you say
16:48 <@klixa> they*
16:48 <@RangerZ> no, b/c you can be very creative with logic
16:48 <@klixa> RangerZ: if you look, i said "actully i like the left brained type just not the annoying ones" sooo..i dont htink anythign is wrong
16:48 <@RangerZ> *points to logic proofs* ;)
16:49 <@klixa> RangerZ: fine fine... geesh...let me sit here and actually plan what i say before i say it...
16:49 < aestetix> vagina
16:49 <@RangerZ> klixa: hehe, *pats you on head*
16:49 <@RangerZ> there there
16:49 <@klixa> left vs right is a myth anyway...its just a colloquiliasm/anecdotal/social thing
16:49 < aestetix> klixa: they are the kinds who would logically explain to you why you should have sex with them
16:49 <@klixa> RangerZ: i dont learn things in sequential order...i am intuitive
16:50 <@klixa> RangerZ: "left" brained types tend to be very lineear, learns in sequence, and use their senses more so than intuition
16:50 <@RangerZ> I'm a 3D learner, which is neither of those, I have to visualize things working together (makes coding in my head interesting)
16:51 <@klixa> RangerZ: is that a documented phenomena? 3d learning?
16:51 <@RangerZ> dunno, never cared to look into it
16:51 <@RangerZ> but its how I think about most complex things
16:51 <@klixa> RangerZ: then you arent all tah left brained...if you are juts gonna make shit up
16:51 <@klixa> :D
16:52 <@RangerZ> of 'left' vs 'right' , I'm left, without a doubt
16:52 < aestetix> RangerZ: here's a way to tell
16:52 <@klixa> this is complicated
16:52 <@SuMo_D> yeah, that's why in our program with the kids we try to emphasize critical thinking as well as tools.... you need to be able to make connections and figure out why you're doing what you do if you're actually going to DO anything than be a code monkey asshat that follows somebody else
16:52 <@klixa> take the meyer briggs test
16:52 < aestetix> do you disapprove of how I trolled city council last night?
16:52 <@RangerZ> no
16:52 <@SuMo_D> and the thing is.... that those tools all go out of date anyway
16:52 < aestetix> someone who is super rigid would
16:52 <@SuMo_D> but learning to think and adapt doesn't
16:52 <@RangerZ> i'm in this fucking channel
16:53 <@RangerZ> i HIGHLY doubt we have anyone like that in here
16:53 <@RangerZ> lol
16:53 <@SuMo_D> aestetix did you get the video of it?
16:53 <@klixa> yeah, i dont think anyone in this channel is rigid
16:53 < aestetix> SuMo_D: well sort of
16:53 <@klixa> one of my god friends s rigid...and he thinks im eccentric and crazy
16:53 <@RangerZ> THOUGH... people in here might be rigid in certain areas: such as spammers must be burned alive at the cross
16:54  * RangerZ looks at Dagmar
16:54 < aestetix> klixa: there's a certain comfort in that
16:54 < aestetix> the rigid type also tend to not like art
16:54 <@SuMo_D> yeah.... I know that type
16:54 <@klixa> aestetix: when they do like art, they like realistic stuff/nature photos
16:54 <@SuMo_D> they're... something
16:54 <@Wilpig> stupid android.  "unable to start camera during a call"  why?  because some dick head mandates is makes a clicking noise when you take a picture
16:54 < aestetix> SuMo_D: http://oakland.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=1462
16:54 <@SuMo_D> there's a lot here in G-ville like that too
16:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: Concurrent Meeting of the Oakland Redevelopment Successor Agency and the City Council - Mar 4th, 2014 (at oakland.granicus.com)
16:55 <@klixa> im drawn to the rigid type romantically
16:55 < aestetix> if you go to around the 4 hour mark, that's where it starts to get good
16:55 <@SuMo_D> sweet
16:55 <@SuMo_D> ok... my 2 minutes has turned into 10
16:55 <@klixa> SuMo_D: not rigid thats why
16:56 <@SuMo_D> I need to get on the road and get home and do things - Chat with yall laters
16:57 < aestetix> so this is also why I hate pair programming
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16:58 < aestetix> especially if you get paired with one of those nasal four-eyes mouthbreathers who demands you justify every line of code
16:58 <@RangerZ> aestetix: did anyone realize you did it at the time?
16:58 <@RangerZ> I heard a couple snickers when 'ben franklin' was mentioned
16:59 < aestetix> a few people were in the know
16:59 < aestetix> they started to catch on as the names went on and on
17:00 < aestetix> and I had to leave early, so I told a few people that if they needed speakers to yield time, just call out names of the signers
17:00 <@klixa> i need to make a combination diaper bag/laptop bag/purse
17:00 < aestetix> some of the other speakers picked up and said things like "I'd like benjamin franklin to yield time" and someone in the audience shouted "here!"
17:01 < aestetix> but based on city hall's reaction, I don't think that trick has ever been done before there
17:01 <@RangerZ> thats surprising
17:01 <@RangerZ> its an _obvious_ thing to do
17:01 < aestetix> well I mean
17:02 < aestetix> most of the meetings are over boring shit
17:02 <@RangerZ> what was the 'big' issue they were talking about now?
17:04 <@RangerZ> then*
17:04 < aestetix> I think for the next meeting
17:05 < aestetix> either the presidents, or a list of rock n roll celebrities or something
17:05 <@klixa> celebs would be better
17:06 < aestetix> Tom Cruise, Pope Francis, etc
17:07 < aestetix> hmmm
17:07 < aestetix> what about porno titles
17:08 <@RangerZ> list the current staff from the armory
17:08 <@RangerZ> lol
17:08 < aestetix> hahaha
17:08 <@RangerZ> that 'could' show up
17:08 < aestetix> thank you internet
17:08 < aestetix> http://dirtysounding.com/
17:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: DirtySounding.com - Dirty Sounding Names (at dirtysounding.com)
17:09 < aestetix> Dixon Cox
17:09 < aestetix> that is funny
17:10 < aestetix>  Hugh Jardon
17:14 < aestetix> man
17:14 < aestetix>  Oliver Bush
17:14 < aestetix> these are gems
17:14 < aestetix> I can't wait to hear the city clerk read them
17:17 < aestetix> oh wow
17:17 < aestetix> Sarah Tonin
17:19 <@RangerZ> don't abuse it too much
17:19 <@RangerZ> you'll lose it
17:20 <@RangerZ> best to keep it for the times when the founders need to show up
17:20 <@RangerZ> lol
17:22 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: Hugh Jim Bissell
17:33 <@Dagmar> Fucking macs
17:33 <@Dagmar> I just found out they don't do group-sticky on directories
17:34 <@Dagmar> ...or at least, not in any way sane people would like.
17:38 < aestetix> Shadow404: how long did it take you to loosen your sphincter for butt play?
17:40 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: again with asking such things during the work day
17:42 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I just randomly pinged Marshall on Communicator with "derp! *runs away*"..=)
17:43 <@Dagmar> heh
17:43 <@Dagmar> If Wilbur was on it would be a great time for him to do the same thing
17:43 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: it's past 5pm on the east coast
17:43 <@Dagmar> Half thse people don't believe me when I say "You may leave Vanderbilt, but Lync is forever."
17:43 <@Mirage> I talked to Ham on the phone Fri night...he was quite pickled.
17:44 <@Dagmar> Dude I was *astonished*
17:44 <@Mirage> EMC is federated with Vandy, thanks to Matt Hall.
17:44 <@Dagmar> I've gotten to the CP at 6:30 before and he was already hammered.
17:44 <@Dagmar> On his departure party thing he'd been there since _three_ and by 5:20 when I got there you could barely tell he'd been drinking.  heh
17:45 <@Dagmar> I figured he'd already be close to getting kicked out
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17:55 < NotLarry> Mirage: what is your lync address?
17:59 <@Wilpig> time to go home now?
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18:23 <@oddball> Ok... that thing I said about not really having issues with osX?  yeah... I take it back.
18:23 <@oddball> A buddy  of mine is apparently seriously considering using Dropbox to share files with his wife because his Mac can't properly handle file permissions.
18:24 <@oddball> This is between two machines on the same fucking network.
18:37 <@Dagmar> Jackson could do it with ACLs
18:37 <@Dagmar> I'm somewhat astonished that OSX decided to repurpose group-sticky to make a directory effectively write-only
18:38 <@Dagmar> I'm not amused with the dude who keeps waving his pompoms around for Dropbox
18:39 <@oddball> yeah
18:39 <@oddball> That's not an actual solution.
18:39 <@Dagmar> Yeah not when the files are potentially 800mb in size
18:39 <@Dagmar> ...or even more than a couple of Mb
18:39 <@oddball> That's answering "I'm having this problem with my car" with "take the bus.
18:39 <@oddball> "
18:39 <@Dagmar> More like "Rent a bus"
18:40 <@oddball> And I'm going to call bullshit on companies generally moving to Dropbox as a file sharing solution.
18:40 <@Dagmar> Yeah I rather strenuously doubt that one
18:40 <@Dagmar> There's local cloud node solutions one can buy
18:41 <@Dagmar> ...and RHEL7 is probably going to support gluster configuraitons so people can have their own damn clouds
18:42 <@oddball> cool
18:42 <@Dagmar> I found out from the RH rep what the deal was with gluster's docs, by the way
18:42 <@Dagmar> THey basically pillaged the gui from virtd-manager.
18:42 <@oddball> ah
18:42 <@Dagmar> It's way fucking easier to deal with from that end
18:43 <@Dagmar> 'cuz like, docs almost become obsolete with virtd-manager once you know what the various pieces do
18:43 <@Dagmar> I almost felt bad for the RH rep.
18:44 <@Dagmar> He was clearly a softball guy sent to deal with folks who casually juggle chainsaws as morning calisthenics
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18:44 <@oddball> heh
18:45 <@oddball> I was recently asked by one of the guys in my tae kwon do class why I was so laid back all the time.
18:46 <@oddball> He thought I was joking when I said "oh, I'm in IT.  I know what real emergencies are," until I explained.
18:46 <@Dagmar> LOL
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19:16 <@Wilpig> nsfw   http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=235156134
19:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: Steam Community :: Screenshot :: WTF LOL (at steamcommunity.com)
19:26 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Yeah there's another one two doors down that you won't be so amused with.
19:29 < aestetix> vagina
19:29 < aestetix> wow
19:29 < aestetix> cnn.com
19:29 < aestetix> they could have used a less flattering photo of hillary
20:20 < aestetix> ok
20:20 < aestetix> I am stuck doing windows shit again
20:20 < aestetix> cue throwing things at the wall
20:30 < NoFault|Mobile> aestetix: Throw windows shit at the wall, problem solved.
20:33 <@klixa> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orNpH6iyokI&list=RD7kGPhpvqtOc
20:33 <@GateKeeper> Title: Screamin Jay Hawkins - I Put A Spell On You - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:36 < NotLarry> fm the remote for the cable box also does things to the entire room's AV system.
20:38 < aestetix> NoFault|Mobile: pretty much
20:54 <@Wilpig> okay.  dagmar this holding the left mouse button and hitting a then d.  wtf?  
20:54 <@Wilpig> what am I doing wrong here?
20:57 <@Dagmar> I've no idea.  I'm not to that point yet.
20:58 <@Wilpig> i'm done for the night.  got other shit to do
21:09 < aestetix> pvagina
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