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00:13 <@Dagmar> Fuckin Dominos has _failed_
00:14 <@oddball> No pizza for you!
00:14 <@Dagmar> Clearly not.
00:15 <@Dagmar> Apparently "John" started making my order at 10:21pm.
00:15 <@Dagmar> That's as far as the Pizza Tracker got
00:15 <@oddball> oh dear
00:15 <@Dagmar> Store doesn't seem to be answering the phone, either.
00:19 <@Dagmar> Finally got someone that time
00:19 <@Dagmar> They gave me a song and dance that I could care less about
00:19 <@Dagmar> A shame the manager is the only one in the store right now
00:20 <@Dagmar> My problem is a lack of pizza.
00:23 <@klixa> i hope that song and dance includes a free pizza
00:23 <@Dagmar> Oh it won't, I'm sure
00:24 <@Bahhumbug> You ordered from Dominos... you weren't going to get "pizza" anyway.
00:24 <@Bahhumbug> They did you a favor, really.
00:24 <@klixa> semantics :P
00:24 <@Dagmar> Hey it beats "Oh gosh we don't deliver after dark" Hut
00:24 <@klixa> pizza hut recently gave me a few free pizzas
00:24 <@Bahhumbug> Pizza hut is pretty crappy as well.
00:24 <@Dagmar> What irks me is that it happened too late in the evening for me to get basically _anything_ else but McDonalds
00:24 <@Bahhumbug> I had real pizza tonight and still have a few pieces left over :)
00:25 <@Bahhumbug> But I suspect you don't want to hear about that.
00:25 <@klixa> they undercooked one...so replaced it for free...then another time took 2 hours cause it snowed...so got a fre large pizza
00:25 <@Dagmar> If I wanted to cook stuff or go out I wouldn't have ordered a $14 pizza
00:25 <@Dagmar> Oh apparently "John" just put my pizza in the oven
00:26 <@klixa> yay
00:26 <@Bahhumbug> Manager comping it?
00:26 <@Dagmar> The only reason I'm not cancelling the order is they've got this comment box thing that I intend to use
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00:26 <@Bahhumbug> Oh!  Please let us know what comment you leave.  I need more entertainment :)
00:27 <@klixa> Dagmar: call back when they arent busy, like on monday...and tell them you think they owe you a free pizza
00:27 <@klixa> they should do it
00:27 <@Dagmar> No, I'll settle for JOhn losing his job for mismanagement
00:27 <@klixa> john wont lose his job tho
00:27 <@Dagmar> Yes he will
00:27 <@klixa> cause there are a million worse johns they have working for them
00:27 <@Dagmar> Something is horribly wrong at this location
00:28 <@Dagmar> They've been losing a manager every other month for awhile now
00:28 <@Bahhumbug> It's a Dominos.  There is nothing _right_ that can possibly happen there.
00:28 <@Dagmar> They used to be pretty reliable
00:28 <@Dagmar> I suspect they decided they needed to make budget cuts or something equally stupid
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00:30 <@Bahhumbug> What is an EnabrinTain?  I don't recall seeing that nick arund before.
00:30 <@Dagmar> A lurker
00:31 < wilpig__> yar
00:31 < wilpig__> wow I have two tails now
00:31 < wilpig__> guess I shoudl get some sleep
00:32 <@Bahhumbug> There is time enough to sleep when you're dead.
00:33 < EnabrinTain> Totally a lurker
00:34 < wilpig__> we already said that. :P
00:34 < EnabrinTain> https://256.makerslocal.org/wiki/User:Enabrintain
00:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: User:Enabrintain - Makers Local 256 (at 256.makerslocal.org)
00:36 < EnabrinTain> Gah, that thing is out of date
00:36 < wilpig__> oh look another thumbnail for the stats page.
00:36  * EnabrinTain adds another todo
00:38 < EnabrinTain> And now back to the party
00:39 < wilpig__> bedtime nao
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01:20 <@Dagmar> oddball:  http://dcxposed.com/2013/01/27/seattle-gun-buyback-gets-jacked-turns-into-a-damn-gun-show-lol/  OMG heheh
01:21 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.angryduck.com/pics/british_passport.htm
01:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: british passport (at www.angryduck.com)
01:28 <@Dagmar> Sometimes I just don't get Tyree.
01:28 <@Dagmar> Apparently he and Maverick were at the Brad Paisley show and they were somewhat taken aback that he played 'Rocky Top'.
01:28 <@Dagmar> o.O
01:31 <@Dagmar> ...and damnit.  I'm down to watching The Lorax tonihgt, apparently.
01:31 <@Dagmar> I've seen pretty much every zombie flick Netflix has.
03:27 < aestetix_> penis
03:28 <@Dagmar> Just two more days until we find out if they've ruined Thief or not
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03:31 <@Dagmar> "Drunken Robot Pornography"
03:31 <@Dagmar> So... that's a video game now.
03:33 <@Bahhumbug> Lemme guess....  something from Japan?
03:34 <@Dagmar> It's so hard to tell nowadays
03:38 <@Bahhumbug> brimstone: idlerpg is on again; you were not logged back in automatically, however..
04:09 < aestetix_> holy shit
04:09 < aestetix_> http://mashable.com/2014/02/22/protesters-seize-control-of-kiev-after-president-flees/
04:09 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ukraine President Impeached as Archrival Returns to Kiev (at mashable.com)
04:41 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: Not sure you know who Remi Collet is but apparently I made him cry by calling fedora a train wreck a couple times.
04:42 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix_: I didn't see _that_ coming.
04:58 <@anarchival> You a
04:58 <@anarchival> oops, wrong chan
04:59 < aestetix_> I just realized something scary
04:59 < aestetix_> It's legal to have sex with someone who was born in .... 1996?
05:00 <@anarchival> Oh hey, I just remembered that I didn't post a link to the Redshift preso from PyTennessee: http://dailytechnology.net/slides-amazon-redshift/#/
05:00 <@GateKeeper> Title: Amazon Redshift: What You Need To Know (PyTennessee 2014) (at dailytechnology.net)
05:05 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix_: Some states it would be more recent than '96.
05:06 <@Bahhumbug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America
05:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ages of consent in North America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
05:06 <@Bahhumbug> Less verbose: http://www.webistry.net/jan/consent.html
05:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Age of Consent - by State (at www.webistry.net)
05:14 < aestetix_> http://imgur.com/a/DZcyK
05:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dr. Woo may be the coolest tattoo artist in Los Angeles - Imgur (at imgur.com)
05:14 < aestetix_> wow I actually want one of those tattoos
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06:59 < aestetix> vagina
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07:54 < wilpig__> oh joy! another opendcim user just tried to manually upgrade by applying the sql update by hand then asked why it didn't work.
08:26 <@Bahhumbug> It didn't work because his mother made the mistake of not swallowing.
08:27 < wilpig__> I agree
08:27 < wilpig__> I replied with it was a classic pebcak error and to unzip the archive and run the installer
08:40 < aestetix> penis
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09:22 <@Shadow404> wilpig__: what the fuck
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10:38 < aestetix> drugs are bad
10:39 <@Bahhumbug> Lies.
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10:40 < wilpig__> having to side with Bahhumbug on this one
10:41 < aestetix> anarchival: are drugs bad?
10:42 < aestetix> wow did we find the one thing she doesn't have an opinion on?
10:46 <@anarchival> aestetix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUQn0HhGEk
10:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Storm by Tim Minchin - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:47 <@anarchival> Currently attending "How to Spy with Python: So easy, the NSA can do it!" by Lynn Root.
11:05 <@anarchival> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkVm6MjObn0
11:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: how to spy with python so easy the NSA can do it - Lynn Root - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
11:10 <@Shadow404> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udNHsk57f24
11:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: Rick James "Cocaine is a hell of a drug" - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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11:16 <@anarchival> She's packet sniffing *from iPython* THIS IS THE BEST.
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11:17 <@Shadow404> ca python run on android for packet sniffing
11:18 <@anarchival> Shadow404: If you're looking for a packet sniffing app for Android, there are already several.
11:23 <@Bahhumbug> Jesus... you're easily impressed
11:25 < wilpig__> nothing says "i'm a computer security conscious professional" quite like an iPhone.  it's about time they got a packet sniffer
11:29 <@eryc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oxDsEVqnyY
11:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: Electric Eel: Digital Condom Prototype - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
11:29 <@Shadow404> anarchival: like?
11:30 < wilpig__> eryc: that sounds kinda rapey.  
11:30 <@eryc> wilpig__: iPython is a fancy python repl, nothing to do with iphone
11:30 <@anarchival> Shadow404: Is your Google broken?
11:31 <@eryc> also, using it for packet capture is like 10 years ago
11:32 < wilpig__> so it's even worse because it's a stupid name.  excellent. 
11:33 <@Shadow404> i found a few, but they all require root
11:34 <@eryc> there isn't an android permission for raw net device access, so you need root
11:34 <@eryc> i don't think linux even has a permission system like solaris to allow that anyway
11:35 <@Shadow404> problem is if i root, i void the warranty protection
11:35 <@eryc> says who
11:35 <@Shadow404> tmobile
11:35 <@eryc> wheere
11:36 <@Shadow404> in the warranty paperwork
11:36 <@Shadow404> i used it once whenn it crapped out
11:37 <@Shadow404> and they upgraded me fro galaxy s2 to s3 for free cause they dint have any s2's in stock still
11:37 <@Shadow404> so im happy
11:37 <@eryc> anyway you're wrong
11:37 <@Shadow404> right
11:38 <@eryc> samsung distributes the tool to root your phone
11:38 <@eryc> it doesnt void any warranty
11:38 <@Shadow404> but tmobile has their own image
11:39 <@Shadow404> it voids "their" warranty
11:39 <@Bahhumbug> eryc: You can get fine-enough grained support to permit / deny access to anything under linux; selinux, for example.
11:39 <@Bahhumbug> But it's still pretty dirty.
11:39 <@eryc> ah yea selinux
11:39 <@eryc> that thing everyone disables
11:40 <@Bahhumbug> Only the lazy and incompetent.
11:40 <@Bahhumbug> http://stopdisablingselinux.com/
11:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: Stop Disabling SELinux (at stopdisablingselinux.com)
11:40 <@eryc> if everyone didn't disable it, there wouldnt be that website now would there
11:41 <@eryc> there are good ideas in selinux, but it's poorly implemented
11:41 <@Bahhumbug> There are many lazy and incompetent "admins" and "engineers" and as long as toilets like howtoforge exist sites like that are necessary.
11:42 <@Bahhumbug> Meh, that really hasn't been the case since el5 dropped.  Management is fairly trivial these days if you spend a couple hours reading.
11:43 < wilpig__> Bahhumbug: I disable it, but I am lazy and don't care to tune it on my dev box for every little strange activity I want to do
11:45 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig__: http://ur1.ca/gon0j
11:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: #79623 Fedora Project Pastebin (at ur1.ca)
11:45 <@Bahhumbug> My selinux cheatsheet.
11:46 <@Bahhumbug> That and a man page here and there (semanage primarily) will get you through that majority of issues.
11:46 <@Bahhumbug> Also, if you ever have questions just ask; I'm not Dan Walsh but I've been running with fully selinux-enabled boxes for years.
11:47 < wilpig__> right which is all fine and good. it's easy enough, especially if you use it regularly.  but on my devbox I will do some just pure random shit sometimes and I don't want the hassle of relaxing the permissions to test whatever and then to put them back.  on a production system i'd probably take the time to tune it and make it all happy
11:49 < wilpig__> at the end of the day, i'm a lazy motherfucker
11:50 < aestetix> vagina
11:51 < aestetix> why does that always halt the conversation
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12:04 <@anarchival> Now attending "To The Moon and Back" by Julia Elman. I think it's about Python-fueled space exploration?
12:05 <@Bahhumbug> Or Al Kramden sending sending his wife to the moon.
12:05 <@Bahhumbug> s/sending sending/sending/
12:12 < wilpig__> Bahhumbug: to the moon alice!
12:14 <@anarchival> Mosquitos v. Lasers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6E3f2lT14
12:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: Nathan Myhrvold on mosquito laser - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:18 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig__: Indeed :)
12:18 <@Bahhumbug> Times were better back then.
12:21 <@anarchival> You guys are so smart. You offer such stimulating conversation. I really feel like I learn stuff from hanging out here. /end sarcasm
12:27 < wilpig__> I wasn't aware this was the educational hour
12:27 < wilpig__> I've just been straightening up the DC since we have some VIPs on the tour this week
12:27 < wilpig__> I was just telling a coworker that I am debating labeling one of these empty bins "Hopes and dreams"
12:30 <@Dagmar> "Broken dreams" if it's empty
12:35  * Bahhumbug ponders how one that acts as if it knows everything can learn anything new
12:38 < wilpig__> Bahhumbug: because there is always a new way to do something trivial otherwise, in python
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12:41 <@SuMo_D> well.... fuck drug resistant bacteria
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12:41 < wilpig__> SuMo_D: that sounds like a horrible idea
12:41 <@Bahhumbug> ##fix_your_connection is in someones future.
12:41 < wilpig__> that would just be drug resistant vd
12:41  * Bahhumbug shudders
12:41 <@eryc> don't be dissin on python bro
12:42 <@SuMo_D> apparently what I have is resistant to cipro
12:42 <@Bahhumbug> Ouch.
12:42 <@Bahhumbug> Sorry to hear that.
12:42 <@eryc> much wow
12:42 <@SuMo_D> switching to something I've never heard of before cause I had a bad reaction to cephtryasone post transplant...
12:42 < wilpig__> SuMo_D: more cranberry juice?
12:43 <@klixa> and garlic
12:43 <@SuMo_D> you guys sound like my mom...
12:43 <@SuMo_D> and elderberry and honey too!
12:43 < wilpig__> SuMo_D: wash behind your ears
12:43 <@klixa> i <3 honey...all my bath products atm re burts baby bees
12:43 < wilpig__> clean your room too
12:44 <@SuMo_D> but my fever is gone, and my stomach is stable and I didn't have chills last night but my pain is getting worse
12:44 <@SuMo_D> so....
12:45 <@SuMo_D> just hope it's not going to end up in the hospital, but getting prepared for that
12:45 < wilpig__> positive thinking.  no hospital for you
12:45 <@SuMo_D> also hey did you guys run anarchival off just for me? <3
12:45 < wilpig__> nah.  her connection is just shitty
12:45 <@SuMo_D> can only deal with one sickness at a time
12:46 < wilpig__> or maybe it was the constant stream of sarcasm directed toward her that did it
12:46 <@klixa> i did the ignire thing in her SuMo_D
12:46 <@klixa> dont feed the trolls
12:46 < wilpig__> but i'm a troll, and I like pie. :(
12:47 <@SuMo_D> yeah I have to scroll up... and klixa I should do that...
12:47 <@klixa> when i say yummy you say pie...yummy
12:47 < wilpig__> pie
12:47 < wilpig__> I should get rid of this tail
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12:48 <@SuMo_D> that just makes me want to watch weeble and bob all day
12:48 <@SuMo_D> when come back bring pi!
12:48 <@eryc> oh no you cut off your epeen
12:48 <@wilpig> just one of the girls now
12:48 <@eryc> haha
12:48 <@klixa> i have no scroll up...i froze from like 5 am til i logged out a few min ago
12:48 <@wilpig> weedble and bob sounds like a really bad porno
12:49 <@klixa> but yeah, im just not gonna talk to her now...it was fun for awhile being *mean*, but i only like to be mean to be funny...
12:49 <@SuMo_D> it was really early internet animation stuff kinda like 3 brain if you know them
12:50 <@klixa> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKArng7ycI0
12:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: Teen Titans Go: I Want Pie! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:50 <@wilpig> hrmm.  I wonder
12:50 <@SuMo_D> http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/pie/
12:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: pie - Weebl's Stuff (at www.weebls-stuff.com)
12:50 <@wilpig> /bin/sh: pastebin: command not found
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12:50 <@wilpig> thought I had it aliased.  oh well
12:51 <@SuMo_D> like.... when I was just starting art school and flash had just come out and we were like THIS IS AMAZING
12:52 <@klixa> @ 50 seconds just scared me :/
12:52 <@klixa> PIE!!!!!
12:52 <@wilpig> Uploading (23.3KiB)...
12:52 <@wilpig> http://ur1.ca/gonfi -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/79636/31779431
12:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: #79636 Fedora Project Pastebin (at ur1.ca)
12:53 <@wilpig> I need to lower the time on that a hair then just make it a regular irssi alias
12:54 <@SuMo_D> wilpig this one is for you http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/pie/
12:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: pie - Weebl's Stuff (at www.weebls-stuff.com)
12:54 <@SuMo_D> oh wrong one
12:54 <@wilpig> i'm in the DC at the moment.  no sound
12:54 <@klixa> i used to use macirssi, but the guy quit updating it...like 4 years ago :(
12:54 <@klixa> it was irssi , but with its own terminal so you could click links, etc
12:54 <@wilpig> klixa: you can get irssi through brewos or whatever it is
12:54 <@klixa> macports or homrbrew, yes
12:54 <@klixa> but...i wont be able to click links
12:54 <@klixa> or scroll
12:54 <@wilpig> command click on links in iterm2 will open links
12:55 <@wilpig> fn + arrow keys to scroll in terminal
12:55 <@wilpig> with regular irssi, not in screen, you can scroll just fine
12:55 <@klixa> right...but i want to be able to use the mouse
12:55 <@SuMo_D> http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/hentai/
12:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: hentai - Weebl's Stuff (at www.weebls-stuff.com)
12:55 <@klixa> for chanels, pm's, etc
12:55 <@SuMo_D> that one for you willpig
12:56 <@anarchival> I'm set on Ignore, but she still posts passive-aggressive comments about what I just posted. Right.
12:56 <@anarchival> Such high schooler little bitches.
12:56 <@anarchival> SuMo_D: I hope you feel better soon.
12:57 <@SuMo_D> thanks anarchival
12:59 <@wilpig> hrmm.  I don't remember putting in some of these aliases
12:59 <@wilpig> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
12:59 <@wilpig> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
12:59 <@wilpig> heh
12:59 <@anarchival> Such magnificent beards here today.
12:59 <@wilpig> Filesystem                   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
12:59 <@wilpig> /dev/mapper/root_vg-root     181G   55G  117G  32% /
12:59 <@wilpig> /dev/mapper/raid5_vg-vmware  1.8T  912G  830G  53% /intraid
12:59 <@wilpig> /dev/mapper/root_vg-boot     447M  390M   33M  93% /boot
13:10 <@wilpig> now that's handy
13:10 <@wilpig> pastelog = "/exec fpaste -x 3600 ~/irclogs/Freenode/\$C.`date +%Y-%m-%d`.log";
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13:16 <@wilpig> testing one last time
13:16 <@wilpig> Uploading (26.3KiB)...
13:16 <@wilpig> http://ur1.ca/gonk3 -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/79647/79366139
13:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: #79647 Fedora Project Pastebin (at ur1.ca)
13:16 <@wilpig> sweet.
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13:16 <@klixa> wilpig: what exactly are you testing/doing?
13:16 <@klixa> re you logging this channel now?
13:16 <@wilpig> it's always been logging.  :P
13:16 <@anarchival> Current status: https://github.com/fonnesbeck/statistical-analysis-python-tutorial
13:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: fonnesbeck/statistical-analysis-python-tutorial · GitHub (at github.com)
13:16 <@wilpig> that's hwo the stats are generated each night
13:17 <@wilpig> but it's come up in a other channel about something in the log that someone missed and instead of me disconnecting my screen session to post I figured it's trivial enough to just make an alias to upload the current channel/query's log
13:17 <@wilpig> upload it to fpaste witha  1 hour time out
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13:48 <@SuMo_D> Oh oh oh got my new meds listen to this name nitrofurantoin mono/mac!
13:48 <@SuMo_D> what kind of crazy name is that
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13:54 <@anarchival> http://vimeo.com/79517341
13:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: A Beginners Guide to Machine Learning with Scikit-Learn - Sarah Guido on Vimeo (at vimeo.com)
13:58 -!- wilpig changed the topic of #se2600 to: Next 2600 Meeting 3/7
13:59 <@wilpig> holy shit.  this thing is still there.  http://se2600.myminicity.com/
13:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: MyMiniCity (at se2600.myminicity.com)
14:08 <@brimstone> 25th!?
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14:14 <@Bahhumbug> Does it post anything not presented by a woman?
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14:19 <@anarchival> Bahhumbug: Of the seven talks I've posted, three of them have been presented by women. The next one is by a man. Equal opportunity!
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14:19 <@anarchival> Bahhumbug: Well, as close to equal as it gets at a tech conference, anyway.
14:22 <@sdodson> What's the difference between equality and homogeny? Discuss.
14:24 <@anarchival> sdodson: My fascist friends claim equality can only truly exist in a homogeneous society.
14:24 <@Dickie> Homogeny is being all mixed together.
14:24 <@anarchival> sdodson: I'm using "fascist" there as the political ideology they espouse, not necessarily as a criticism.
14:24 <@Dickie> Equality is where we're all treated the same way.
14:24 <@Dickie> These are mutually exclusive properties.
14:24 <@sdodson> Dickie, yeah, I think homogeny is probably the wrong word.
14:24 <@Dickie> DISCUSSION OVER
14:25 <@klixa> homogeny is a term for milk, equality is not :|
14:25 <@sdodson> I think equal access versus equal distribution is what I'm trying to differentiate between.
14:25 <@anarchival> I'd say that equality is a useful fiction which enables a heterogeneous society to function with maximum stability.
14:25  * klixa prefers non homogenous cream top strauss milk
14:26 <@Dickie> I gave a poor definition of homogeny
14:26 <@Dickie> But whatev, Kev.
14:26 <@Dickie> ...whatever, Kevin.
14:27 <@klixa> homogoney =being the same; equality= treated the same
14:27 <@klixa> you people overcomplicate things
14:28 <@anarchival> Equality doesn't necessarily mean being treated the same, no.
14:28 <@Dickie> We're going to work this out
14:28 <@Dickie> Right here, right now
14:28  * Dickie locks the doors
14:28 <@anarchival> When a particular population is systematically disadvantaged, equal opportunity necessitates them being treated differently in order to compensate for that systematic disadvantage.
14:28 <@anarchival> Dickie: :)
14:30 <@anarchival> Now attending Jason Orendorff's talk on Lambda and the nature of data, which he indicates will be "some sort of Lovecraftian horror-type thing."
14:30 <@anarchival> Most excellent.
14:30 <@anarchival> (he told me earlier that it's a terrible talk and he's not prepared for it, though, so don't get too excited for a link)
14:30 <@eryc> when do the good talks start
14:31 <@anarchival> eryc: this is the next to last one
14:32 <@anarchival> eryc: We end with Jessica McKellar on teaching the next generation of programmers, so I won't bother you with any of that since she's a woman and it's about learning to code.
14:32 <@klixa> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.adsk.sketchbookink_gen i cant ait for the day we can have more precise styuluses for ipads/tablets
14:32 <@klixa> wait*
14:33 <@sdodson> are you saying the android styluses are more precise ?
14:33 <@anarchival> ...and Jason puts up a slide of Alan Turing. I love you, Jason.
14:34 <@klixa> sdodson: no, i was saying i want more precises styuses in gneral for both ipads/other tablets
14:34 <@sdodson> klixa, ack
14:34 <@klixa> tho, the galaxy note is precise... but... its just one tablet of many...
14:35 <@klixa> i have a graphic tablet...but you look at the screen...so thats weird an unnatural...but on my iapd or andrid...the rubber on the tip of the stylus is huge and blocks things
14:35 <@klixa> theres just no acceptable (and affordable) way to draw digitially
14:37 <@klixa> my baby just started liking a new game...i am calling it nosedive" i sit her up...and she deliberaltely falls over...then laughs
14:40 <@anarchival> Jason is writing Python code purely with functions right before our very eyes. BECAUSE HE CAN.
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14:45 <@sdodson> It may be weird and unnatural but surely the last 10-20 years of your life have trained you well to interact with a screen that's disconnected from the input device.
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14:48 <@oddball> klixa: Yeah... I think most of my artist friends that do stuff on the computer tend to start with sketches with pencil/marker and scan that in.
14:49 <@oddball> They primarly use the computer for effects, etc.
14:49 <@sdodson> Surprise: 8 ‘Health’ Foods That Don’t Deserve the Title
14:49 <@sdodson>  -- Ramen
14:49 <@sdodson> ^^ who the fuck ever thought Ramen was good for you?
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14:50 <@oddball> Probably folks that think that any vegitarian meal is healthy.
14:50 <@sdodson> The Internet today is just clever ways of making me click on things to learn what anyone over the age of five already knows.
14:50 <@Corydon76-work> Ramen is vegetarian?
14:51 <@klixa> sdodson: i *can* do it, yes..but i still prefer paper+supplies and then scanning it in
14:51 <@oddball> Wait... is it an egg noodle?
14:51 <@sdodson> I'd rather just eat a brick of salt and sugar together.
14:51 <@Corydon76-work> Rice, I believe
14:51 <@anarchival> I love how whit always walks in the room looking as though he just got back from hiking the Appalachian Trail.
14:51 <@klixa> oddball: its easier (for me)that way...
14:51 <@Corydon76-work> But the flavors I've seen are Beef, Chicken, and Shrimp
14:52 <@oddball> Corydon76-work: Ok... so it's vegi as long as you don't add meat or meat broth to it.
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14:52 <@anarchival> I like to sautee a little white fish in butter and pepper, then put it over my Ramen. For that extra special healthy touch.
14:52 < shapr> who's in the lambda talk with me?
14:52 < shapr> AND WHERE ARE YOU SITTING?
14:52 <@sdodson> In other news, the fuckheads at google have broken Chrome such that back and forward buttons don't work properly
14:52 <@anarchival> shapr: I am the woman in the blue hoodie near the back.
14:53 <@Corydon76-work> No, I meant that I've never seen Ramen come in a veggie flavor
14:53 <@klixa> http://vegetarian.about.com/od/vegetarianfaqs/f/ramenFAQ.htm
14:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: Are ramen noodles vegetarian? Is ramen vegan? Where can I find vegetarian ramen? (at vegetarian.about.com)
14:53 < shapr> anarchival: totally do not see you because I'm at the front in the darkish green button down
14:53 < shapr> front left even
14:53 <@brimstone> bunch of nerds
14:53 <@oddball> Corydon76-work: Right, but those flavors are in reference to what the flavor packets are, not the noodles themselves.
14:54 < shapr> anarchival: Would be nice to meet you after the talk :-)
14:54 <@oddball> Nothing says you have to use them.
14:54 < shapr> is always cool to meet irc people
14:54 <@Corydon76-work> oddball: Ah, I typically get the ramen in preformed cups, so there's no packet, just fill, soak, and eat
14:54 < shapr> yay emacs!
14:54 <@anarchival> shapr: I don't see you either, and I've got a much better vantage point. I'm sure we'll get a chance between talks.
14:54 < shapr> yes!
14:54 <@oddball> And, actually, I think I have seen vegitarian options in the "high end" ramen kits at the store.  You know, the ones that cost a full dollar each.
14:54 <@Corydon76-work> shapr: Emacs is a nice operating system, but it lacks a decent editor.
14:55 <@anarchival> shapr: Do you come to NashFP?
14:55 <@oddball> Corydon76-work: Ah... well... yeah... I don't think Cup 'o Noodle makes a vegi option.
14:55 <@klixa> this convo is making me crave ramen...wth
14:56 <@klixa> lol
14:56 <@oddball> hehe
14:56 <@sdodson> anarchival, What con are you live IRC'ing about?
14:56 <@anarchival> emacs is a twenty (thirty?) year old operating system that still occasionally blows my mind
14:56 <@Corydon76-work> oddball: yeah, I've never understood gourmet ramen.  The point is that it's cheap, not that it's good.
14:56 < shapr> anarchival: No, do you know heath ?
14:56 <@Bahhumbug> anarchival: 30
14:56 < shapr> anarchival: I've only been using emacs for 15 years
14:56 <@anarchival> sdodson: PyTennessee
14:56 <@oddball> By the way, there second largest setting on a Keureg machine is the perfect volume for the Cup 'o Noodle ramen cups.
14:56  * brimstone pokes heath
14:57 <@oddball> Corydon76-work: There is a significant difference in taste.
14:57 <@anarchival> shapr: I'm acquainted with him, I believe.
14:57 < shapr> anarchival: I do know something about Haskell though.
14:57 < shapr> Are you a fan of FP?
14:57 <@brimstone> Floating Points
14:57 <@oddball> Some of us actually eat it because we enjoy it, not because it's cheap.  Although, the cheap part doesn't hurt.
14:57 < shapr> oh, I thought you meant...
14:57 <@anarchival> shapr: You should come to NashFP. It's a really great group. I walk away from those nights feeling totally dumb, but in a good way.
14:57 <@Corydon76-work> Or Fixed Point, if you're in the kernel
14:58 < shapr> anarchival: I live far away, but I may still show up.
14:58 <@anarchival> shapr: I'm an Erlanger. But NashFP is about all the FP languages, Haskell included.
14:58 < shapr> Who shows up at NashFP meetings, when and where?
14:58 < shapr> anarchival: ohh cool. I've never really gotten into Erlang, but would like to at some point.
14:58 <@anarchival> shapr: I think some of the Haskell guys have even formed their own study group. It meets at JJs?
14:58 <@brimstone> shapr lives in sweden
14:58 < shapr> brimstone: not anymore!
14:59 <@brimstone> he just spends the night in Florence
14:59 < shapr> :-P
14:59 < shapr> I live in Florence, AL
14:59 < shapr> anarchival: Have you ever tried out the #haskell irc channel?
14:59 <@anarchival> shapr: http://nashfp.org/
14:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: NashFP (at nashfp.org)
15:00 <@Corydon76-work> shapr: Ah, yes, center of operations for the Anderson family fortune
15:00 <@anarchival> shapr: You should get in touch with Josh Adams of http://elixirsips.com/ he drives up from Alabama.
15:00 <@GateKeeper> Title: Elixir Sips | Learn Elixir With a Pro (at elixirsips.com)
15:00 < shapr> Oh wow, they meet at Emma, cool! I got to tour the Emma offices last night... somewhat accidentally.
15:00 <@brimstone> he broke in
15:00 <@anarchival> shapr: If you check out the Twitter/Google Group/Github, you'll get a very good idea of who attends.
15:00 < shapr> Isn't isotope11 in Birmingham?
15:01 <@anarchival> shapr: I don't hang out in #haskell because I don't program Haskell. Nothing against it, just haven't gotten to it yet.
15:01 < shapr> I'm a fan of the #haskell irc channel
15:01 < shapr> Yeah, I know one .. two? people who used to work at isotope11
15:02 <@anarchival> shapr: Emma has the worst physical security, ever. I can't tell you how many times I've wandered around that place, stolen chairs, rearranged the papers on people's desks... ;)
15:02 < shapr> I've never stolen chairs, but I was tempted to draw more spiderman drawings on the whiteboards
15:02 < shapr> I met several people who work at emma in the past two days.
15:02 < shapr> anarchival: Were you at the sprints?
15:03 <@anarchival> shapr: Nope. I probably won't stay this evening, either. I'm actually blowing off something really important I need to be doing this weekend to be here for the talks.
15:03 <@Corydon76-work> The real mindfuck is when you draw in colors on the whiteboard that they don't have available next to the board.
15:03 <@anarchival> shapr: So I've got to hurry back home and get back to work. It's lame. :(
15:04 < shapr> aw, too bad... hopefully I at least get to shake your hand
15:04 < shapr> Have you seen the guy at the con with the blue LED name badge on his shirt?
15:04 <@anarchival> shapr: I won't leave before we meat greet. It's good to put faces with handles.
15:04 < shapr> yay!
15:05  * shapr disappears, trapping anarchival at the con FOREVER
15:05 <@anarchival> shapr: lol no I haven't seen him yet
15:05 <@Corydon76-work> "meat greet" <-- Freudian slip?
15:05 < shapr> anarchival: I'm the guy with the blue LED name badge :-)
15:05 <@klixa> shapr: upload your pic, so she can find you
15:05 < shapr> klixa: psh, too easy
15:05 < shapr> Why you want to make things so easy?
15:05 < shapr> I will encode my picture as a lambda calculus expression...
15:05 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: No slip. That's what I call meeting people in physical form.
15:05 <@klixa> shapr: well...really it was fo rme, i was nosy
15:06 < shapr> klixa: do YOU have a picture online?
15:06 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: when we use the term in the gay community, we're usually talking about something else.
15:06 <@klixa> shapr: i do...
15:06 < shapr> WHERE is your online picture?
15:06 <@Corydon76-work> Hence, some bars tend to be "meat markets"
15:06 <@anarchival> shapr: One word: steganography.
15:06 <@klixa> everyone in here, except anarchival has a pic that everyone else has seen
15:07  * shapr emails a steganosaurus to anarchival 
15:07 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: That's not surprising.
15:07 <@klixa> shapr: me on the left http://cl.ly/image/160A1o093v3N
15:07 <@GateKeeper> Title: 1477965_606523756081017_1788601464_n.jpg (at cl.ly)
15:07 < shapr> klixa: Am I not part of everyone?
15:07 <@Dagmar> ...like Canvas.
15:07 <@klixa> shapr: i havent seen you before
15:07 < shapr> I've been here before, but I'm quiet and introverted and easy to miss.
15:07 <@klixa> i need a new pic again, that one is like 3 months old now... time flies
15:07 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: I haven't had to pleasure of going to Canvas
15:08 < shapr> klixa: https://twitter.com/heathmatlock/status/437231252865708032
15:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / heathmatlock: My #haskell friend @shapr at ... (at twitter.com)
15:08 <@Corydon76-work> but back in the day, I was at Ynonah's briefly
15:08 <@anarchival> shapr: Oh, I've seen you!
15:08 < shapr> anarchival: did you say hi?
15:08 <@klixa> shapr: oooh, you have blinky lights on
15:08 <@anarchival> shapr: That makes it easier.
15:08 < shapr> klixa: SO MANY BLINKY LIGHTS!
15:09 < shapr> seriously, those are adafruit floras
15:09 < shapr> with lsm303 sensors on 'em
15:09 < shapr> and on my scarf
15:09 < shapr> and my namebadge is an adafruit flora as well
15:09 <@klixa> shapr: yeah, i know..i have been lusting after soem for awhile...ever since i saw the pacman suspender vi of theirs
15:09 <@anarchival> shapr: I might have smiled at you. I'm much, much quieter than you would expect in real life.
15:09 < shapr> anarchival: I'm much louder than you would expect in real life.
15:09 <@klixa> im loud in both THIS LOUD
15:09  * klixa is a force to be reckoned with
15:10 < shapr> klixa: I can't hear you from here, and you must be in Nashville
15:10 < shapr> psh, not THAT loud!
15:10  * shapr challenges klixa's reckoning
15:10 <@klixa> shapr: im in the SF bay actually
15:10 <@Corydon76-work> Close
15:10 <@anarchival> Just now checking the Twitter stream. Awww, the head of PyLadies is quoting Cal fucking Evans. How precious.
15:10  * anarchival is not bitter.
15:10 < shapr> klixa: ok, you could be really loud and I still wouldn't hear you
15:11 < shapr> anarchival: do you not like Cal Evans?
15:11 <@klixa> annie here tho, shes in nashville... you 2 should get a latte or something
15:11 < shapr> ok, sure!
15:11 < shapr> oh wait, she has things to run off and do
15:11 <@Corydon76-work> shapr: he banned her from a con after she made some threats to his keynote speaker
15:11 <@anarchival> shapr: Not since he and Jacques banned me from CoderFaire, no.
15:11 < shapr> wow, exciting
15:11 <@anarchival> shapr: Actually I didn't like Cal before then, either, but I could at least tolerate him.
15:11 <@klixa> anarchival: you like lattes right? you have a latte date...your welcome
15:12 <@klixa> your/s/you're
15:12 < shapr> klixa: She's busy, like ALL the dates I try to get lately :-(
15:12 <@klixa> awe
15:12 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: I did not make any threats.
15:12  * shapr throws ashes and wears sackcloth and all that
15:12 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: Uh, I read the tweets.  They were threats.
15:13 < shapr> anarchival: ok, going to track you down now. will have blue LED badge
15:13 <@Corydon76-work> They may have been made in jest, but that did not come through in that medium
15:13 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Such as "when the revolution comes, I will personally pleasure you both with a twelve inch dildo?"
15:13 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: I'm supposed to keep a sense of humor about dudes in this channel threatening to drug me, put me in a box, and ship me to NJ, but that tweet isn't obviously a joke?
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15:14 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: As a person who went to law school, you should know that threats are taken as received, and intent doesn't need to be established
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15:17 <@Corydon76-work> _I_ can perceive that you were joking.
15:18 <@Bahhumbug> Reads like a threat to me.
15:18 <@Corydon76-work> But if a reasonable person thinks it was a threat, then legally, it's a threat.
15:21 <@wilpig> interesting.  I have been afk for an hour and appears shit has hit the fan
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15:22 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: know a public argument i love making on blogs?..... Evolution over I.D.
15:22 <@klixa> Shadow404: :P
15:22 <@Shadow404> the I.D. arguments are halarious
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15:23 <@klixa> Shadow404: ID is real cause the bible says so..THE END
15:23  * klixa runs away laughing hysterically
15:23 <@wilpig> anarchival: for the record I never said anything abotu drugging you, but yes you can pakc yourself in a crate and i'll send a ups label for you
15:23 <@Shadow404> heh
15:23 <@Shadow404> woot, sounds fun
15:23 <@Shadow404> send her here
15:23 <@Shadow404> we can use that thing i showed klixa and you
15:23  * wilpig offers SuMo_D a shady beverage
15:24 <@Shadow404> wilpig: wrong S-Tab
15:24 <@wilpig> no, that was the right one
15:24 <@Shadow404> ok
15:25 <@Shadow404> gah, i love open office, but i have to relearn all teh placement of buttons
15:26 <@klixa> i thought libre office was  the new it softwre
15:28 <@Dagmar> LibreOffice has been more buggy, by my use of it in the last couple of days
15:28 <@wilpig> watching an interesting twist on a zombie movie.  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2093270/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3
15:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Returned (2013) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
15:33 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Like I said before, I violated the CoC intentionally and I took the consequences. It doesn't diminish the fact that Cal and Jacques engaged in much faggotry leading up to and in response of what happened.
15:36 <@Corydon76-work> How is enforcing the CoC that you, yourself, recommended they put into action evidence of faggotry?
15:37 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Also, my initial comment RE: the head of PyLadies quoting Cal Evans is particularly ironic because I was the one who defended PyCon and the enforcement of the CoC when donglegate went down.
15:37 <@Corydon76-work> donglegate?
15:37 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Is that on Netflix or something?  I recognize the poster for some reason
15:37 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: I didn't have anything to do with the CoC at Coderfaire. I was a speaker, I didn't have anything to do with organizing the conference.
15:37 <@Bahhumbug> Heh... Dongle.
15:37 <@wilpig> not sure where it came from
15:37 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: If memory serves, Jacques was the one who insisted on a CoC. Cal was against it.
15:38 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: He didn't have a problem enforcing it against me, though. Sort of like that time he tried to get a woman banned from another conference for wearing a T-shirt that said "Enhance Your PHPness"
15:40 <@Bahhumbug> Umm, why would someone be banned for wearing that shirt?
15:40 <@SuMo_D> you know you live in the south when you hear gunshots and your first thoughts are "hmm must be spring" and "I wonder what caliber that is"
15:40 <@SuMo_D> and not why the hell am I hearing gunshots
15:40 <@Corydon76-work> Bahhumbug: "...Pness" sounds like penis
15:40 <@Bahhumbug> SuMo_D: Took me a bit to get accustomed to that after moving down here.
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-work: Jesus christ.  Is _this_ what we've devolved to?
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> Worrying about "PHPness"?
15:41 <@anarchival> Bahhumbug: A quick search doesn't yield Cal's pearl-clutching blog post, but here's a response for the woman who was wearing the shirt: http://webandphpmag.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/phpness-gate-raising-interesting-issues/
15:43 <@anarchival> Cal is the sort of chauvinist I grew up with, who believes a woman's place is in the home and a she should act like his idea of a lady and really has no legitimate role in the software community.
15:43 <@SuMo_D> Bahhumbug used to scare the shit out of me... but yeah been here about 2 years now... now its like... oh look its spring
15:44 <@anarchival> Re: PHPness, he also felt it was a double-standard that she wasn't punished for making a quasi-crude joke in the way the dongle-gate guys were.
15:44 <@anarchival> Which is actually an interesting point. I'll give him that much.
15:44 <@SuMo_D> there are 6 kids under 4 in the surrounding houses though, I just get concerned that they aren't aways the best with their precautions I just don't want to see stupid accidents
15:45 <@SuMo_D> young ones like to run....
15:45 <@Dagmar> I would be more disappointed if there were stupid accidents I *didn't* get to see
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15:46 <@anarchival> BTW, Jessica McKellar is from Franklin and her talk on the computer science education is focused on Tennessee. I'm girl crushing even harder than I initially anticipated.
15:46 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: given that Cal's wife did the majority of the legwork for CoderFaire, I'd say your characterization of him is unfair.
15:46 <@SuMo_D> I guess that's true..the stats stack in that would probably be one of the shooters kids...
15:46 <@SuMo_D> but don't want to think about that :/
15:46 <@SuMo_D> wilpig what is that... cranberry?
15:46 <@Dagmar> If someone's going to get hurt for my amusement, I won't let their sacrifice be in vain.
15:46 <@Corydon76-work> As he says on multiple occasions, she is the brains behind the operations, and he's just the pretty face.
15:47 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: The fact that Cal found a woman willing to bear him children, and that she knows which side her bread is buttered, is unimpressive. The possession of ovaries != concern for the treatment of other women.
15:47 <@SuMo_D> Dagmar - duly noted
15:47 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Behind every successful man is a good woman. How quaint.
15:48 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: You're talking past me again.  Try addressing the point that he's trusted her to run the conference.
15:49 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: I don't consider that to be trust so much as laziness. Not to mention Jacques would beg to differ that she runs the conference.
15:49 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: I think you're seeing what you want to see, not the facts before you.
15:50 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: You know as well as anyone that there's a helluva lot of unappreciated grunt work in running one of these things. The fact that he puts that on his wife instead of doing it himself doesn't speak well of him. If she volunteers for it, great. Frankly I've met her, and she's a "stand by her man" sort.
15:50 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Religious, conservative men are fantastic at being unapologetic chauvinists while talking as though they "put her up on a pedestal."
15:50 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Objects belong on pedestals. People do not.
15:51 <@Corydon76-work> Uh, marriage is a team effort, and good spouses do not air grievances in public on EITHER side.
15:51 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Exactly. So I don't assume they have a happy, supportive, healthy marriage any more than I assume the opposite. The facts could serve either reality.
15:52 <@Corydon76-work> The fact that you heard no grievances aired while being a casual acquaintance has no more significance than you not being a close confidant
15:52 <@Bahhumbug> Odd, a buddy of mine from Akami / GNAPs knows McKellar; he's mentioned her in passing before.
15:52 <@Corydon76-work> And it doesn't support the idea that she's a "stand by her man" type of woman, only that they have mutual respect enough not to air dirty laundry in public.
15:53 <@anarchival> Bahhumbug: I first encountered her on FLOSS Weekly. She's pretty awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBe6WJdmNs
15:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: FLOSS Weekly 225: Twisted - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:53 <@klixa> what happened to shapr
15:53 <@Corydon76-work> He's still here
15:53 <@Corydon76-work> Probably listening to the talk, though
15:54 <@klixa> his nick is here...but *he* is not
15:54  * klixa hopes no one harmed him during a greeting
15:54 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Her husband stepped outside the bounds with me, and she sided with him. I don't blame her. He's her husband. I'm nobody. That's what she's supposed to do. But I don't have to respect her for it.
15:55 <@Corydon76-work> No, you don't have to respect her.  But you've characterized her in ways that are not merited by the facts.
15:55 <@eryc> someone is butt hurt
15:55 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: We were talking between talks, but he got up and left. Did he stay? He said something about his ride leaving before Jessica's talk.
15:56 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Shrugs. She made a poor impression on me. I've known a lot of men like Cal, and the sort of woman they're usually married to. If my assumptions are wrong, so be it. I don't really give a damn.
15:56 <@Corydon76-work> Last thing he said in channel was about trying to track you down
15:57 <@eryc> are you guys done trolling
15:57 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Yes, we met, and then he left. Shapr was not harmed in our meat greet. I'm hoping he can make it back to Nashville again soon for NashFP and/or NashMicro, he is brilliant.
15:57 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: In that case, I would suggest, modifying the way you talk about people like that.  Don't say "she is", but something more along the lines of "I perceived her to be"
15:57 <@Dagmar> lol
15:58 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Yeah, the way in which Cal and his buddies talk about me? I'll talk about her in any way I please.
15:58 <@klixa> who is cal
15:58 <@Corydon76-work> AAAAAAAND... This is why we're not mending fences anytime soon.
15:59 <@Corydon76-work> klixa: Local programmer and consultant who runs a number of conferences
15:59 <@klixa> Corydon76-work: ok
15:59 <@klixa> does he come to this channel?
15:59 <@eryc> someone anarchival is jelly over
15:59 <@klixa> eryc: that's not specific enough
15:59 <@Corydon76-work> Nope, he can be found in #nashvillephp on occasion, though
15:59 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to mend a fence with a person who doesn't acknowledge my right to exist in the community.
15:59 <@wilpig> klixa: no
16:00 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: didn't he have you as a speaker at CoderFaire before he banned you for making a threat?
16:00 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: No, Jacques did.
16:00 <@Corydon76-work> I'd say that's evidence for believing you have a right to exist in the community
16:01 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Cal didn't want me speaking at the conference. Not before, not after. Jacques convinced him to put me on the schedule for reasons.
16:01 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Also, I was offering to speak on Elixir, which was/is a hot topic, so that was a selling point.
16:01 <@Corydon76-work> Well, I'll have to ask him about it at the PHP Users Group
16:02 <@Corydon76-work> I know Cal well enough to suspect there's a different reason
16:02 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Knock yourself out. If you choose to pass along any of my comments, please tell him to eat me.
16:02 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah, no, I try not to be confrontational except when defusing an immediate situation
16:03 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Really, it's water under the bridge. I appreciate you just want everyone to get along, though. That's nice.
16:03 <@klixa> WTF is up with this new trend of splitting movies in half!?!??!
16:03 <@klixa> just charge more damnit, i dont wanna wait to see part 2
16:04 <@Dagmar> What movie?
16:04  * klixa prefers not to say in public
16:04 <@eryc> lord of the rings
16:04 <@wilpig> glittery vampires
16:04 <@RangerZ> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/02/23/1528208/most-alarming-ietf-draft-proposes-trusted-proxy-in-http20 this is some bullshit
16:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Most Alarming: IETF Draft Proposes "Trusted Proxy" In HTTP/2.0 - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org)
16:04 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: I want things to be understood in a universal manner, not so there's two conflicting stories.  If once the stories are resolved, people can't get along, so be it
16:04 <@klixa> hobbit eryc, hobbit...and that is one of them...its split into 3
16:04 <@eryc> yea thats what i meant
16:04 <@klixa> wilpig: im not into the glittery vampires... tho i do listen to miley cyrus in private
16:05 <@klixa> :/
16:05 <@eryc> its a party in the usa
16:05 <@klixa> been hooked on her since this http://www.mtv.com/shows/miley_cyrus_unplugged/do-my-thang-live/997987/video/
16:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: Show Performance | Do My Thang (Live) | MTV (at www.mtv.com)
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16:06 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: I don't need One True Way. Different people are going to have different perspectives, especially when there are conflicts. I'd appreciate it if everyone who doesn't have first hand knowledge with this shit just stayed the fuck out of it. Things would simmer down much faster without everyone taking sides in some bullshit pitched battle.
16:06 <@Bahhumbug> You made my bot pull a title from a Cyrus video?  You're mean.
16:06 <@Bahhumbug> If you don't want people to take sides stop talking about it.
16:07 <@Corydon76-work> Bahhumbug: ++
16:07 <@eryc> this video is pretty amazing
16:07 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Also, the people who have a reputation and power in the community to lose have a tendency not to own their part in things. Which makes finding the truth a little bit difficult.
16:07 <@klixa> Bahhumbug: sorry :/ she brainwashed me
16:08 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: people with nothing to lose in a situation don't have a problem making stuff up, either.
16:08 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: It's more likely to happen when someone has a motive for lying, though.
16:09 <@eryc> if only she dry humped that horse it would be perfect
16:09 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: At least, if we're talking about people who have some small shred of sanity and aren't kleptos or something.
16:09 <@Bahhumbug> klixa: I was not referring to you :)
16:10 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: BTW, you're the one who pursued this ridiculously lengthy discussion. If you didn't want to participate in it, maybe in the future don't engage?
16:10 <@eryc> get a room
16:11 <@eryc> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e48_1320877851
16:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: LiveLeak.com - Corridor inside container ship flexing in heavy seas (at www.liveleak.com)
16:13 <@RangerZ> Corydon76-work: *was reading logs* , The fact that two people fight in public, doesn't mean they fight in private though, they might not HAVE 'dirty laundry' to air out (other than normal husband/wife stuff)
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16:14 <@klixa> i have been airing too much past few motnhs...i was always all about a united front until recenty
16:14  * RangerZ chears
16:14 <@RangerZ> ohh shit... did I say that out loud
16:15 <@RangerZ> and damn it... s/fight in public/don't fight in public
16:16 <@klixa> i wont be doing that anymore tho... my stupid pregnancy hormones are back to normal, and along with it my self control
16:17 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ: right, my point was that not fighting in public is NOT a sign that someone is subservient
16:17 <@RangerZ> ofcourse it is, b/c thats the only way her arguement holds up
16:17 <@RangerZ> fuck it... not fixing that one
16:18 <@Corydon76-work> Which, the space or the spelling?
16:18 <@RangerZ> spelling of argument
16:19 <@Corydon76-work> or the missing apostrophe?  ;-)
16:20 <@wilpig> I wanna insult RangerZ but I just don't have the motivation. so.... fuck you RangerZ, ya douche.
16:20 <@RangerZ> ehh
16:22 <@klixa> i know that feeling wilpig
16:24 <@Corydon76-work> So anybody watching others curse at the weather in Daytona?
16:27 <@RangerZ> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/02/23/218223/netflix-blinks-will-pay-comcast-for-network-access
16:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: Netflix Blinks, Will Pay Comcast For Network Access - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org)
16:27 <@RangerZ> fuck
16:28 <@brimstone> yup
16:30 <@Bahhumbug> Why are people cursing about Daytona?
16:33 <@SuMo_D> what set her off today? - wasn't that conversation she was quoting over a month ago?
16:35 <@RangerZ> SuMo_D: well, "donglegate" is what she is known for now in many communities
16:35 <@RangerZ> thankfully here, she's just known for her sunny personality
16:36 <@RangerZ> she straight up admitted the reason she came to PN/se2600 was because she had no where else to go, and she wanted to make PN better than the cons she wasn't allowed to go to
16:36 <@SuMo_D> I should not try to understand crazy people... I should not try to understand carzy people.... I should not try to understand carzy people....
16:37 <@RangerZ> pretty much
16:37 <@SuMo_D> I've been burned too many times... but then.... ya know...
16:37 <@SuMo_D> yeah I remember that
16:37 <@SuMo_D> I was like, well there you go, some honesty
16:37 <@SuMo_D> oh well
16:37 <@SuMo_D> whatever
16:37 <@SuMo_D> I have ginger beer
16:37 <@SuMo_D> yum
16:38 <@RangerZ> nice
16:38 <@RangerZ> I need to go to the store, but I don't want to :/
16:39 <@klixa> i want ginger beer
16:39 <@klixa> the raspberry kind
16:40 <@klixa> SuMo_D: nothing set her off... shes just crazt
16:40 <@Corydon76-work> Bahhumbug: the race was delayed due to tornado warning, and the grandstands cleared
16:41 <@Corydon76-work> http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2014/02/23/2014-daytona-500-winner-race-tv-streaming/5756125/
16:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: Live: Severe weather moves in on Daytona (at www.usatoday.com)
16:43 <@wilpig> SuMo_D: so you are or aren't gonna try to understand me?
16:44 <@sync350> Anyone found a site to stream the race if it ever starts back up? Fox doesn't give an option to log in with a Dish account :(
16:45 <@klixa> RangerZ: lmfao @donglegate/sunny personality
16:45 <@SuMo_D> wilpig ?
16:45 <@SuMo_D> oh the crazy people comment
16:46 <@klixa> SuMo_D: there ya go
16:46 <@klixa> lol
16:46 <@SuMo_D> lol
16:55 <@wilpig> these damn cats.  they just have to lay on me
17:00 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-work: Interesting.  Thanks :)
17:04 <@RangerZ> wilpig just hates it when pussy is all over him
17:27 <@Bahhumbug> It's a shock and he doesn't really know how to handle it.
17:27  * Bahhumbug hides
17:28 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wfpjjj7m63777ct/2014-02-23%2017.27.50.jpg
17:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2014-02-23 17.27.50.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
17:36 <@klixa> wilpig: hey...i didnt know you had a mac!
17:36 <@klixa> thats at least 3 of us
17:36 <@klixa> wilpig. SuMo_D, and me
17:37 <@SuMo_D> yep
17:37 <@SuMo_D> he got his mac when he went to the NE
17:37 <@SuMo_D> actually I need a new comp
17:37 <@SuMo_D> and not sure if I still want a mac
17:38 <@klixa> you and me both have the pro...looks like his is an air
17:38 <@klixa> SuMo_D: anything worng with your current mac?
17:39 <@SuMo_D> its running slow and making noises and not powerful enough for some of the work stuff I need to do its about 4 years old
17:39 <@SuMo_D> my brother got it for me when I was in the hospital
17:40 <@klixa> if you wanna sell it, i am interested in buying it
17:40 <@klixa> http://gizmodo.com/the-os-x-apps-affected-by-apples-unpatched-security-fl-1529152561?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
17:43  * EnabrinTain waves at shapr
17:44 <@klixa> i think anarchival killed shapr
17:44 <@klixa> he was suposed to say hi to her...and thats the last we saw of shapr
17:45 <@klixa> shapr: ARE YOU ALIVE?!?!
17:45 <@oddball> I saw her make the statement that equality doesn't mean treating people equal... and decided to not engage.
17:46 <@Bahhumbug> Awww....
17:46 <@klixa> oddball: always a good idea
17:46 <@Bahhumbug> You need to get in the spirit of it.  Calling her out on her bullshit == entertainment.
17:46 <@klixa> Bahhumbug: she likes it oo much tho
17:46 <@klixa> too*
17:46 <@oddball> but it's bad for my blood preasure... and it doesn't actually accomplish anything.
17:47 <@klixa> sundays are depressing
17:47 <@klixa> i dont know why tho
17:50 <@wilpig> klixa: because you don't have pussy in your lap?
17:51 <@klixa> thats not it
17:52 <@wilpig> mine just got up and left me.
17:53 <@Bahhumbug> Did you pay before it left?
17:53  * Bahhumbug hides more
18:02 <@Corydon76-work> He makes it eat cat food.  Nuff said.
18:02 <@Bahhumbug> Hahahaha
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18:55 <@sasquatc4> woot, first legal pot purchase
18:55 <@klixa> sasquatc4: where
18:56 <@sasquatc4> denver, picked up some edibles
18:56 <@Bahhumbug> +1
19:00 < shapr> klixa: you screamt?
19:01  * wilpig pinches klixa 
19:02 <@klixa> shapr: i was just making sure you werent killed
19:02  * klixa pinches wilpig back
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19:03  * wilpig takes his pants off
19:03 < shapr> klixa: I was killed, then resurrected
19:03 < shapr> klixa: I am not a zombie slave controlled by anarchival
19:04 < shapr> klixa: But I can only say good things about her after that... obviously!
19:04 <@klixa> you know...it almost sounds like you _are_ a zombie slave controlled by anarchival
19:04 < shapr> See? You almost doubted me for a second, right?
19:04  * shapr snickers quietly
19:04 <@wilpig> i heard it.  not very quiet
19:05 < shapr> klixa: See, that's why anarchival called me brilliant, because I am was so easy to turn into her not a zombie slave.
19:05 < shapr> I mean. You know...
19:05 < shapr> wilpig: psh
19:05 <@klixa> hmmm
19:05 <@klixa> im not sure what i think about you shapr
19:05 < shapr> It's okay, most people don't know what to think about me.
19:06 < shapr> klixa: You should hang out with me in person next time you're vaguely nearby.
19:06 < shapr> That way you REALLY won't know what to think about me!
19:06 <@wilpig> what about me?
19:06 < shapr> I mean, you'll know a lot more about me, but that won't help.
19:06 < shapr> wilpig: you don't count.
19:06  * shapr counts 1,2,3,4 ... what was I doing?
19:06 <@wilpig> riding bikes
19:06 < shapr> unicycles you mean?
19:07 <@klixa> shapr: ok, next time i am nearby i will hang out with you... and i will bring adafruit pieces and we can make something
19:07 < shapr> I have a mountain unicycle that I designed explicitly for the purpose of chasing snowmobiles across the arctic tundra.
19:07 <@wilpig> a wheel, a seat, there is pedaling involved.  potato, watermelon
19:07 < shapr> wilpig: yeah, totally the same thing.
19:07 < shapr> klixa: You believe me, right?
19:07 < shapr> I am not a unicycling zombie, enslaved to anarchival
19:07 < shapr> I mean.. well you know.
19:07  * wilpig giggles
19:08 <@Bahhumbug> I hope you're not.
19:08  * shapr snrks
19:08 <@wilpig> I just farted on both cats and neither moved a muscle
19:08 <@Bahhumbug> Otherwise there will be an incident with fire in your future.
19:08 < shapr> wilpig: they're zombies.
19:08  * shapr is NOT a zombie
19:08 < shapr> klixa: what are you?
19:08 <@klixa> shapr: what do you mean what am i?
19:08 < shapr> What are you?
19:09 < shapr> klixa: To restate that, how would you describe your definition of self?
19:09 <@wilpig> _self
19:09 < shapr> Most people have something in their head that completely blows e-prime out of the water, some sort of assumed identity that they at least believe to be true.
19:09  * klixa hangs out with wilpig instead...cause he's normal
19:10 <@Bahhumbug> Are you high?
19:10 < shapr> No, should I be?
19:10 <@Bahhumbug> Of course!
19:10 < shapr> I don't do drugs and I rarely drink.
19:10 < shapr> I did start smoking cigarettes six months ago.
19:10 <@Bahhumbug> To each their own.
19:10 < shapr> Does that count?
19:10 <@klixa> shapr: yes it counts...quit
19:10 <@klixa> i quit
19:10 <@Bahhumbug> Your body, do with it as you wish.
19:10 <@klixa> i drink...rarely
19:11 < shapr> klixa: give me one reason...
19:11 <@RangerZ> shapr: thats just stupid
19:11 < shapr> RangerZ: What, being a zombie?
19:11 <@klixa> shapr: you can save money if you quit
19:11 < shapr> klixa: ok, that's a good reason. It's a deal.
19:11 <@RangerZ> starting to smoke
19:11 <@klixa> you can prevent your heart from beating a little faster however often you smoke
19:11 <@klixa> you can have more oxygen in your body at all times
19:12 < shapr> ok ok, you've persuaded me!
19:12 < shapr> I'll quit smoking!
19:12  * klixa tinks shapr is trolling me and that anarchival got to him
19:12 <@klixa> thinks*
19:12 < EnabrinTain> HOORAY
19:12 < shapr> See, EnabrinTain knows me! Ask him if I'm a normal zombie!
19:12  * EnabrinTain is gonna remind shapr of this
19:12 < shapr> I mean, not a zombie.
19:13 <@klixa> does anyone here know shapr irl?
19:13 <@klixa> can his sanity/non axe murdering ways be voucehdd for
19:13 <@RangerZ> https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/xt99gvle7fic6r/heap_infobox/My-Pledge-Level-Is-Too-Damn-High.jpg thats amusing, as his forum avatar
19:13 <@wilpig> EnabrinTain is not a reliable source
19:13 <@Bahhumbug> I used to smoke.  For ~30 years.  I quit 5 years, 1 month and 1 week ago, saved $7,475 and didn't smoke 37,375 cigarettes.
19:13 < shapr> klixa: Yes, EnabrinTain knows me irl, ask him for confirmation about the arctic unicycle.
19:13 <@oddball> brains?
19:13  * EnabrinTain knows shapr irl, but thats doesnt help you cause no one knows me
19:13 <@brimstone> i never started
19:13 <@Bahhumbug> Smart man.
19:13 < EnabrinTain> lol
19:13 < shapr> wait, brimstone knows me irl also
19:13 <@brimstone> i know EnabrinTain
19:13 <@brimstone> i don't know shapr
19:13 < shapr> We'll establish a web of trust
19:13 < EnabrinTain> lol
19:13 < shapr> brimstone: psh
19:13 <@brimstone> i mean, we've met once
19:13 < shapr> ONCE?
19:13 <@RangerZ> but will brimstone _admit_ to it?
19:13 <@brimstone> but it was dark
19:13 < EnabrinTain> "trust"
19:13 < shapr> What about that intimate night?
19:13 < shapr> oh, you remember, good
19:13 <@klixa> ok, so EnabrinTain and shapr are both unknowns...
19:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+oo EnabrinTain shapr] by brimstone
19:14 <@brimstone> fixed
19:14 <@klixa> like i said, im gonna hang out with wilpig instead cause i know someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows him
19:14 <@klixa> so...hes safe
19:14 <@shapr> BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL!
19:14 -!- shapr was kicked from #se2600 by shapr [Kicked by shapr]
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19:14 < shapr> My targeting is a bit off...
19:14 <@Bahhumbug> @channelstats #se2600
19:14 <@brimstone> i know wilpig
19:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: On #se2600 there have been 1408435 messages, containing 87667981 characters, 12956162 words, 12335 smileys, and 27111 frowns; 8419 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 132992 joins, 3697 parts, 0 quits, 500 kicks, 55314 mode changes, and 100 topic changes. There are currently 43 users and the channel has peaked at 0 users.
19:14 <@brimstone> i won't hang out with him
19:15 -ChanServ:#se2600- wilpig set flags +AORiorstv on shapr.
19:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o shapr] by ChanServ
19:15 <@shapr> NO NOT AGAIN!
19:15 -!- shapr was kicked from #se2600 by shapr [Kicked by shapr]
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19:16 <@shapr> Wait, don't I know ladymerlin?
19:16 <@wilpig> shapr: yes you do
19:16 <@shapr> oh good!
19:16 <@shapr> ladymerlin: Hi! Who are you?
19:16 -ChanServ:#se2600- wilpig set flags +AORiorstv on EnabrinTain.
19:16 <@wilpig> she's a filthly lurker
19:16 <@brimstone> @seen ladymerlin
19:16 <@GateKeeper> brimstone: ladymerlin was last seen in #se2600 4 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <ladymerlin> i got it
19:16 <@brimstone> 4 days ain't bad
19:17  * brimstone waits...
19:17 <@brimstone> @seen ladymerlin
19:17 <@GateKeeper> brimstone: ladymerlin was last seen in #se2600 4 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <ladymerlin> i got it
19:17 <@brimstone> too soon
19:17 <@brimstone> @seen ladymerlin
19:17 <@GateKeeper> brimstone: ladymerlin was last seen in #se2600 5 days, 0 hours, and 4 seconds ago: <ladymerlin> i got it
19:17 <@brimstone> 5 days on the other hand...
19:17 <@wilpig> these cats.  I swear.
19:17 <@Bahhumbug> brimstone: I've recently learned that @any is better than @seen; @seen only cares about actual messages on the channel while @any recognizes notices, join, parts, etc.
19:17 <@SuMo_D> is ladymerlin the lady who gave the geocaching talk at phreaknic?
19:18 <@wilpig> SuMo_D: no
19:18 <@wilpig> that was elonka
19:18 <@brimstone> but i only care about actual messages
19:18 <@SuMo_D> whats her nick
19:18 <@SuMo_D> does she come in here?
19:18 <@Bahhumbug> Ok.  Just letting you know.
19:18 <@wilpig> elonka if she's on irc.  don't think she is though
19:18 <@brimstone> Bahhumbug: thanks
19:18  * EnabrinTain saw elonka's wikipedia talk a few years ago
19:19 <@eryc> who are these motherfuckers
19:19  * eryc wonders off
19:19  * wilpig locks the door behind eryc 
19:20  * brimstone puts up the kid gate too
19:20 <@wilpig> one cat has grown tired of the gassing.  the other has yet to move.
19:20  * shapr grins happily
19:20 <@wilpig> is this animal cruelty?
19:20 <@shapr> klixa: I'm not an axe murderer. All the axes I've killed happened by accident.
19:20 <@Bahhumbug> It's a cat, so no.
19:20 <@Bahhumbug> Cats are not animals, they are an alien species from another world.
19:20 <@klixa> shapr: oh, well...in that case...i want a latte
19:21 <@Bahhumbug> And your mere human farts are nothing compared to a cat.
19:21 <@shapr> klixa: I *am* at a coffee shop, but you must show up here to drink the latte I will now go buy for you.
19:21 <@Bahhumbug> I have a 9 month or so old juvenile that has the worst farts I've ever smelled.  Worse than my Boston and that's saying something.
19:21 <@klixa> shapr: damnit there is always a catch
19:21 <@shapr> sad but true
19:22 <@shapr> Shall I mail you a books-a-million gift card for the price of one latte? Then there's no catch?
19:22 <@brimstone> bitcoin her
19:22 <@klixa> theres not booksamillion here
19:22 <@klixa> no*
19:22 <@shapr> Of course, giving me your snail mail address might mean I send you a dead axe...
19:22 <@shapr> klixa: oh, that's too bad
19:23 <@klixa> i know :/
19:23 <@brimstone> dogecoin her
19:23 <@wilpig> if you give him your address he's gonna send it to me
19:23 <@shapr> wilpig: Do you live with klixa?
19:24 <@RangerZ> not yet
19:24 <@RangerZ> he's planning on it though
19:24 <@shapr> Is klixa also planning on it? Or is this a unilateral decision?
19:24 <@klixa> no one wants my baby :/
19:24 <@wilpig> klixa longs for me
19:25 <@shapr> klixa: You have a baby?
19:25 <@RangerZ> NotLarry: does
19:25 <@shapr> Is it a zombie baby?
19:25 <@klixa> shapr: yes...shes almost 4 months old
19:25 <@shapr> Oh wow! That's great!
19:25 <@klixa> she was born on halloween...she _might_ me part zombie
19:25 <@RangerZ> "congrats, she's survived that long"
19:25 <@RangerZ> iss how I read that
19:25 <@RangerZ> lol
19:25 <@shapr> RangerZ: that is why babies were not named until they were some months old
19:27 <@klixa> thats my baby https://scontent-b-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/l/t1/1896930_247568395425360_220320360_n.jpg
19:27 <@klixa> her father called her Igor
19:27 <@klixa> it took me a few days to pic a name
19:28 <@shapr> klixa: Are you married to her father?
19:28 <@klixa> shapr: no
19:28 <@shapr> ok, just wondering
19:29 <@klixa> we were together 13 years tho... but he got weird tha past year ...long story
19:29 <@shapr> Ah, sorry to hear that.
19:29 <@shapr> I got a divorce recently, I can understand that.
19:29 <@klixa> sorry to hear that for you..how long werre you together
19:29 <@shapr> only three years
19:30 <@shapr> still the most upsetting thing that ever happened to me
19:30 <@shapr> but ya know, shit happens and you get over it.
19:30 <@klixa> 3 years is a long time... really 3 weeks can be in the right circumstance
19:30 <@shapr> Amusingly, my makerspace was intimately connected to that drama
19:30 <@klixa> makerspace? now you are speakign SuMo_D-anese
19:31 <@shapr> Yeah, I know brimstone and EnabrinTain from the Huntsville makerspace
19:31 <@shapr> Anyway, my wife left me for another guy at the makerspace.
19:31 <@shapr> It was serious drama llama territory.
19:32 <@klixa> i have only met one person in here...and it was like 20 years ago
19:32 <@Dickie> (it was me)
19:32 <@shapr> klixa: so show up and meet me!
19:32 <@klixa> Dickie: you dont even look old enugh to be 20
19:32 <@wilpig> damnit Dickie.  stop taking all the wominz
19:32 <@shapr> Dickie gives wonderful hugs.
19:32 <@Dickie> I'm almost 30 :-/
19:33 <@eryc> what's a good notepad software for windows?
19:33 <@klixa> Dickie: ah...you look younger
19:33 <@wilpig> dickie still gets carded in bars
19:33 <@shapr> eryc: emacs
19:33 <@klixa> eryc: notepad
19:33 <@eryc> like for random notetaking
19:33 <@wilpig> eryc: notepad
19:33 <@Dickie> Damn yeah, I do
19:33 <@eryc> i already use notepad
19:33 <@klixa> shapr: how old are you
19:33 <@wilpig> or notepad++
19:33 <@brimstone> lies
19:33 <@Dickie> eryc: ^^
19:33 <@brimstone> he knows nothing
19:33 <@eryc> ++ is for coding shit
19:33 <@eryc> i need onenote or some shit
19:33 <@klixa> wilpig: you stole my answer :P
19:34 <@Bahhumbug> How about a notepad and a pen?
19:34 <@shapr> klixa: old enough?
19:34 <@Bahhumbug> It's platform independent.  It's transportable.
19:34 <@eryc> i don't know how to copy/paste using a pen
19:34 <@klixa> shapr: ok
19:34 <@shapr> klixa: how old are YOU?
19:34 <@eryc> i think i'll just use onenote
19:35 <@klixa> shapr: turnd 35 on jan 20
19:35  * eryc wonders off again
19:35 <@shapr> klixa: I'm vaguely close to your age. Do you wish for more information?
19:35 <@klixa> older or younger?
19:35 <@Dickie> Blood type
19:36 <@Dickie> SSN
19:36 <@shapr> klixa: I'm old enough to buy Laphroaig. Want some?
19:36 <@Dickie> Kinsey scale rank
19:36 <@RangerZ> mother's maiden name
19:36 <@shapr> klixa: I'm older than you, but still very interesting, I promise.
19:36 <@RangerZ> your favorite pet's name
19:36 <@klixa> shapr: i saw your cartwheel video... yes i would agree you are *interesting*
19:36 <@Dickie> shapr is a dangerously insane human being
19:36 <@klixa> RangerZ: lol
19:36 <@Dickie> Don't trust him
19:36 <@shapr> Dickie: Why do you think that?
19:37 <@Dickie> Because I have met you
19:37 <@Dickie> NEXT QUESTION
19:37 <@klixa> lmfao @ Dickie
19:37 <@shapr> No really, got any actual specifics?
19:37 <@Dickie> shapr: What did that joke ever do to you?
19:37 <@Dickie> Murderer
19:37 <@shapr> klixa: I use the dvorak keyboard layout, I speak Swedish, I do mountain unicycling, I do random cartwheels in the middle of the street (though interstates are the most fun). What else do you want to know?
19:37  * shapr sniffles piteously
19:38 <@Dickie> See?
19:38 <@Dickie> His hobbies include CARTWHEELS IN THE STREET
19:38 <@wilpig> shapr: just say your address and then it's a done deal
19:38 <@Dickie> You should take up extreme ironing
19:38 <@shapr> Actually, my machine sewing lessons have given me the impetus to at least iron my clothes.
19:39 <@wilpig> http://cpanayides.tumblr.com/post/77586727295/spanish-and-italian-so-these-words-are-feminine
19:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: spanish and italian: So THESE words are feminine... Won't the 'splodey hurt? (at cpanayides.tumblr.com)
19:39 <@klixa> wilpig: why are you sending me into his arms? i thought you and i could have something special together one day?!?!?
19:40 <@shapr> One of my life goals is to one day eat a capybara. Or at least most of one.
19:40 <@klixa> ok, final question, what is the proper spot to put a baby shapr? 1. a crib 2. a crate
19:40 <@Dickie> Active volcano
19:40 <@Dagmar> 3. Coathook
19:41 <@shapr> Neither. The proper spot to put a baby is either to hold the baby on your hip, or have one of the frontside babypacks.
19:41 <@klixa> shapr: ok, that answer is acceptable...where do you live and when should i show up
19:41 <@shapr> I always thought the baby frontpacks were way awesome.
19:41 <@shapr> I live in Alabama. You can show up next week, that is, tomorrow.
19:41 <@Dagmar> wilpig: This movie does a good job of leaving you confused as fuck
19:42 <@klixa> alabama? hmmm
19:42 <@shapr> I like taking care of babies. I've taken care of lots of babies.
19:42 <@klixa> its kidna humid there in the summer
19:42 <@wilpig> Dagmar: the zombie one from earlier?
19:42 <@klixa> shapr: do you plan on moving anywhere less humid?
19:42 <@Dagmar> wilpig : Yes
19:42 <@shapr> klixa: I don't have any plans at the moment. Not about moving specifically, just zero plans whatsoever.
19:42 <@wilpig> yeah it was pretty good. I kinda predicted teh ending though
19:42 <@shapr> Like, I'm probably showing up at my job tomorrow. That's as close as I'm getting to a plan.
19:43 <@klixa> shapr: what do you do?
19:43 <@Dagmar> I'm hoping for 'zombies eat everyone when the mysterious greensauce runs out'
19:43 <@shapr> klixa: Usually... I show up for work anyway.
19:43 <@shapr> Oh you mean, what do I do that puts money in my bank account?
19:43 <@klixa> shapr: i have never worked...i wish someone would teach me how
19:43 <@shapr> At the moment I write Python code for a django website.
19:44 <@klixa> django is also the nae of a musician
19:44 <@klixa> django rheinhardt
19:44 <@shapr> klixa: Yes, that's the origin of the name.
19:44 <@wilpig> and a shitty movie
19:44 <@klixa> i prolly dint spell hi name right
19:44 <@wilpig> well decent movie with a shitty ending
19:44 <@klixa> i shoudl have named my bby django...i can so seee it now
19:44 <@klixa> actually i wanted to name her Bartok...but thats kinda weird
19:44 <@shapr> klixa: Previously I've built websites with Python, Haskell, C#, Java, and a plethora of other languages.
19:44 <@klixa> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmwV8A4C2jw
19:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: Stick Game By Bartok - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
19:45 <@wilpig> shapr: c#.  you sick fuck
19:45 <@klixa> shapr: what do you think about drupal? i heaard thats what all the cool kids use nowadays
19:45 <@shapr> wilpig: I was getting paid $100 an hour, and my bladecenter needed power :-(
19:45 <@klixa> too bad you only work 1 hour a week
19:45 <@shapr> klixa: I'm something of a programming languages snob, I'm not a fan of PHP.
19:46 <@shapr> One of my Haskell buddies got me to check out the Drupal source code. After I gave my opinion, he then forwarded it to the Drupal author, who happened to sit next to him at work :-/
19:47 <@shapr> klixa: I'm also something of a snob about cheese.
19:47 <@shapr> I have more downsides, including being INCREDIBLE MODEST.
19:47 <@shapr> INCREDIBLY* even
19:47 <@shapr> I am SO modest that I have to go out of my WAY to tell people just HOW modest I really am, so that they get the FULL effect!
19:47 <@shapr> klixa: so, showing up tomorrow?
19:47 <@klixa> shapr: i understand 100%
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19:47 <@klixa> shapr: do you make your own cheese
19:48 <@klixa> shapr: i make my own yogurt
19:48 <@klixa> i wnted to try cheese next...brie specifically
19:48 <@shapr> No, but I did meet someone at PyTN that does, and now I'm interested in trying it.
19:48 <@klixa> i <3 brie
19:48 <@shapr> klixa: whoa, that's awesome
19:48 <@shapr> I'm a fan of Gruyere. I like the real deal made with nearly untreated milk.
19:48 <@shapr> Too bad that's not legal here in the USA :-(
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19:49 <@CRasH180> I love cheese. Parm being one of my faves
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19:49 <@shapr> klixa: Oh, my sidekick showed up. (Did I mention that I'm a superhero in my spare time?) Gotta go fight crime... or commit it, or something like that. bbl!
19:50  * shapr hugs klixa and runs away
19:50 <@klixa> shapr: i have never had that kind
19:50 <@klixa> i will have to try it now that its been brought ot my attention
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19:55 <@Dickie> I wonder if shapr lists "manic" as a characteristic on his OkCupid account
19:56 <@klixa> lol
19:56 <@Dickie> I don't know how OkCupid works
19:56 <@klixa> i have one cause i was bored...but its become a social experiment to me
19:57 <@klixa> mine straight up says i dont want anyone
19:57 <@wilpig> this cat is either dead or just retarded
19:57 <@klixa> both
19:58 <@wilpig> oh shit!  I just moved my leg and the two swapped on me.
19:58 <@EnabrinTain> heh, I've made cheesse
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20:16 <@anarchival> That is the second reference to Laphroaig in less than a week. Huh.
20:18  * brimstone references Laphroaig again
20:23  * anarchival sips her wine, nibbles her cheese toast, plays some Hearthstone.
20:26  * Dickie spits his caviar all over his screen
20:26 <@Dickie> You're a girl?
20:27 <@klixa> Dickie: really? REALLY?
20:27 <@brimstone> spoilers: klixa is a girl too
20:28 <@klixa> lol
20:29 <@wilpig> brimstone: she's not a girl, she's a mother
20:29 <@wilpig> totally different
20:43 <@anarchival> One of my corp mates is playing Banished. He just saw a couple of ten year olds move in together and start having babies. IS THERE NO MORE DECENCY IN VIRTUAL WORLDS?
20:44 <@anarchival> I bet Dagmar built that village.
20:46 <@Dickie> wilpig: That's coo
20:46 <@Dickie> Mothers are okay
20:51 <@Dickie> I know one that periodically lets me diddle her
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21:07 <@anarchival> Banished just makes me want to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss
21:07 <@GateKeeper> Title: Alone in the Wilderness - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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21:10 <@anarchival> But really I'm just waiting for the next True Detective torrent to go up.
21:17 <@klixa> ☠
21:46 <@wilpig> http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140219/NEWS/302190159/0/news/?odyssey=nav|head&nclick_check=1
21:50 <@klixa> wow...he must have really wanted that twix
21:51 < eryc_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW39Mt5kscQ  # aesteticodes
21:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Penguin Barcode - Computerphile - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
21:51 < eryc_> aestetix_: ^
21:54 < eryc_> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.ac.horizon.aestheticodes&hl=en
21:57 < eryc_> meh, app just crashes
21:58 <@wilpig> it's a neat idea
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22:18 <@RangerZ> eryc: cool idea... but very susceptible to possible malware usage
22:24 < eryc> RangerZ: eh no it's not
22:25 <@RangerZ> not right now, but i mean if someone has a 'read codes all the time'
22:25 <@RangerZ> then boned
22:25 < eryc> you didnt watch the video
22:25 <@RangerZ> yes I did
22:25 < eryc> they can only do 100 codes
22:26 < eryc> the app has to map the 100 digits to actions
22:27 <@RangerZ> there has been some discussions about leaving google glasses to auto-read QRcodes ,
22:27 <@RangerZ> with these, you couldn't leave 'auto read' on at all, lol
22:36 <@Dagmar> muahaha
22:36 <@Dagmar> Vote Lemon Party fliers would be a driveby if that were enabled
22:40 <@klixa> im glad sunday is nearly over...sunday is supernatural..it causes depression...
22:41 <@RangerZ> I call that Summer
22:42 <@klixa> summer depresses you?
22:42 <@RangerZ> ehh
22:42 <@RangerZ> I don't like it
22:42 <@Bahhumbug> If summer depresses you I would go so far as to say you're broken.
22:42 <@RangerZ> much prefer winter
22:43 <@Bahhumbug> Yes.
22:43 <@Bahhumbug> Definitely broken.
22:43 <@klixa> summer depresses me...becuase people leave
22:43 <@klixa> which is the same thing that is wrong with summer
22:43 <@klixa> err sunday*
22:43 <@klixa> empty
22:43 <@RangerZ> swimming, and what not are nice , but overall, i like winter more
22:43 <@klixa> summer is all about locaiton tho
22:44 <@klixa> if you are in a good place, summer brings in more people
22:44 <@klixa> ie, by lakes, oceans, etc
22:44 <@klixa> RangerZ: i like snow
22:44 <@klixa> i like the idea of being locked inside... wiht hot chocolate... and people, and fireplace fires, etc
22:45 <@klixa> looking out the window at the pretty snow...
22:45 <@RangerZ> I'm from NE Ohio, snow != being locked in
22:46 <@klixa> lake effects
22:46 <@klixa> there, in case you were homesick
22:48 <@anarchival> Hygge.
22:49 <@klixa> theres some show on PBS right now, trying to convince the world mermaids exist....
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23:23 <@SuMo_D> RangerZ is from Ohio he likes the cold deep abyss of winter
23:23 <@oddball> http://gaspull.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/deadpool.gif
23:24 <@SuMo_D> that's awesome
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