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02:15 <@RangerZ> http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-long-does-your-state-last-during-sex-nationwide-map-reveals-americans-love-making-stats-269797 ok
02:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: How Long Does Your State Last During Sex? Nationwide Map Reveals Americans Love-Making Stats (at www.medicaldaily.com)
02:16 <@RangerZ> there is no way this is true
02:16 <@RangerZ> 1min 21 seconds to 2min 18 seconds...
02:17 <@RangerZ> i read the pic and thought... sure 1hr 21min, sure thats probably the max average
02:17 <@RangerZ> then I saw the labeling...
05:02 < aestetix_> ok so
05:02 < aestetix_> is it just me
05:02 < aestetix_> or does peer programming give anyone else the peeping tom feeling?
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07:46 < aestetix_> vagina
07:56 <@Catonic> vagiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
07:59 < aestetix_> teeth
08:11 < aestetix_> Catonic: msg
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08:47 <@Shadow404> so, interesting science obsrrvation
08:49 <@Shadow404> tires on bike were low on pressure last week, filled them up at gas station on cold day, they felt all sorts of slippery with little grip right after filling them up, i just thought it was because it changed the shape minutely and i wasnt use to a fully pressured tire in a whole, since i hadnt riden much recently
08:50 <@Shadow404> ride it this morning from a warm garage start and tires much more grippy
08:51 <@Shadow404> my guess is that cold air meant cold tire which lead to the less grip i was feeling, ss oppoaed to warm tire in garage start lots of stick
08:51  * Shadow404 finishes rant
09:17 <@Corydon76-home> http://m.xojane.com/sex/duke-university-freshman-porn-star
09:17 <@GateKeeper> Title: xoJane (at m.xojane.com)
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09:20 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: you should always fill tires before starting the vehicle and having the tires spin.  Spinning tires causes the air within to heat up and expand, thus throwing off your inflation specs.
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10:49 <@wilpig> oh shit!  so the details of toyota camrys that had the accelerators stuck are finally coming out. I wonder if the same stack overflow is in the prius as well
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10:50 <@wilpig> http://embeddedgurus.com/state-space/2014/02/are-we-shooting-ourselves-in-the-foot-with-stack-overflow/
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11:25 <@wilpig> animal abuse!  forcing two cats to share a bowl.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckx8PMun3zM
11:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Two cats one bowl - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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12:52 < wilpig> so it looks like tumblr has been targetted for DDoS
12:52 < wilpig> at noon we shot up from 800Mb/s to 8Gb/s
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12:53 < wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/magcwxg2npj2eup/Screenshot%202014-02-22%2012.30.01.png
12:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - Screenshot 2014-02-22 12.30.01.png (at www.dropbox.com)
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13:02 <@brimstone> only 8gb/s?
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13:04 < wilpig> they're pushing 9G through level3 and 8G through Zayo.  so nearly 20g
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14:50 <@SuMo_D> wow... I actually enjoyed a Ministry song...
14:51 <@SuMo_D> I get it now
14:51 <@SuMo_D> you guys are all on drugs
14:51 <@SuMo_D> or wearing trip glasses
14:51 <@SuMo_D> all the time
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18:28 <@wilpig> bah.  I should get dressed and go out
18:35 < Shadow404> about to head out to a party myself
18:36 <@Dagmar> Try something new.  Go out without getting dressed.
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18:36 <@Dickie> Mix it up
18:36 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: dont feel like getting arreseted
18:36 <@Shadow404> but pig might, if he wants hypothermia up in NJ
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18:39 <@wilpig> it's fairly warm out.  40s or 50s
18:39 <@wilpig> phone says 52
18:39 <@Dagmar> 64F here
18:39 <@Dagmar> I'm about to go riding around for a bit
18:39 <@Dagmar> Mainly I'm just waiting for my mp3 player to finish charging.
18:40 <@wilpig> I went out to eat yesterday so I should stay home to save some money but bleh
18:41 <@klixa> i need to get over my fear of flying and go to australia...speaking of going out
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18:42 <@Bahhumbug> @weather
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18:43 <@Bahhumbug> So she even admits to being a loser.
18:43 <@klixa> dissing anarchival was soooo last week
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18:45 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: i rode this afternoon, was really nice
18:46 <@Shadow404> klixa: no its not, i just dissed her to her electronic face 2 days ago
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18:46 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: lol so short lived
18:47 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig: I can "fix" that.
18:47 <@wilpig> we know the real fix but neither of us can afford the bail
18:48 <@wilpig> The DDoS on tumblr earlier lasted all of an hour and a half.  damn script kiddies and their rented bot networks just have no attention span
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18:50 <@klixa> Shadow404: lol
18:52 <@Bahhumbug> Bail is only an issue if you get caught.
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18:54 <@anarchival> So I finally get IRC fixed *after* I'm back home from PyTennessee. So annoying.
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19:06 <@Dagmar> oh holy shit
19:07 <@wilpig> does that involve a priest's blessing?
19:07 <@Dagmar> http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/1ymns7/to_the_mother_who_yelled_at_me_over_gta_online/
19:07 <@Dagmar> That whole thread is like homecoming
19:11 <@Dagmar> Iv'e killed so many children playing GTA:V Online if there was a 'Ted Bundy' achievement I'd have surely gotten it by now.
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19:23 <@wilpig> so i'm thinking about ordering dinner and I click on tacos just cause i'm curious and now i'm REALLY curious.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/1oxrfz2rl32qozw/Screen%20Shot%202014-02-22%20at%207.22.02%20PM.png
19:23 <@brimstone> cow tongue?
19:24 <@wilpig> They aren't specific
19:24 <@wilpig> what's the difference between marinated pork and just the regular pork meat
19:25 <@brimstone> call and ask?
19:26 <@wilpig> I kinda just wanna order the tongue taco just to say I ordered it.
19:32 <@klixa> do it
19:32 <@wilpig> grubhub + paypal = heaven
19:32 <@klixa> i have seen the tounge in grocery stores ...it looks kinda gross
19:32 <@wilpig> that's all there is to it.  click button => food delivered
19:33 <@klixa> wilpig: who delivers it? a 3rd party company? or does grub hub order for you and the original place deliver?
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19:34 <@wilpig> the restaurant you order from delivers it
19:34 <@wilpig> grubhub just gives places an online presence if they didn't have one before, for a modest fee of course
19:35 <@klixa> oh, was viewing them as a middle man so you dont haev to enter your info for every new place you order from
19:35 <@klixa> tho, i imagine they are that too
19:35 <@wilpig> they are
19:35  * klixa always sounds stupid when she types before thinking things out
19:36 <@wilpig> sign into grubhub and they know where I am.  lets me search for places that deliver or if I want to do pickup. etc
19:36 <@klixa> did you end up getting a tounge taco?
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19:45 <@wilpig> nope.
19:45 <@wilpig> I did get tacos but I dont' remember what meat.  
19:49 <@anarchival> wilpig: I had some pork belly tacos last year at this: http://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/event?oeidk=a07e6la2scfb9272672&llr=xgfa8lkab
19:50 <@anarchival> wilpig: They were exceptional. It's too bad it was just a one night thing.
19:51 <@wilpig> well since pork belly is pretty much bacon, i'd expect them to be uber tasty
20:16 <@Shadow404> anarchival: you got fixed at PyTennesse?
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20:27 <@anarchival> Shadow404: I got fixed when I was three. I ain't havin' no babies.
20:27 < aestetix> fucking netsplit
20:28 <@anarchival> Shadow404: Oh wait that's another terrible story. I'm not supposed to tell you guys terrible stories about my past, right? I heard it makes y'all cry.
20:29  * anarchival crosses her ankles and folds her hands and keeps her mouth shut like a good little Mormon girl.
20:30 <@brimstone> ... again?
20:32 <@wilpig> what again?
20:32 <@anarchival> Among the things that actually did happen at PyTennessee...
20:32 <@anarchival> https://github.com/efloehr/cvarp-pytn
20:33 <@anarchival> https://github.com/CamDavidsonPilon/Probabilistic-Programming-and-Bayesian-Methods-for-Hackers
20:35 <@anarchival> https://github.com/alex/cryptography
20:35 <@klixa> man, it's so dead in this channel tonight
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20:35  * klixa talks about wilpig's tacos
20:35 <@Dagmar> It's because most of us are out goofing around
20:35 <@SuMo_D> mmm tacos
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20:35 <@wilpig> I can try to be more entertaining but i'm eating these tacos and watching this movie with alicia silverstone
20:35 <@Dagmar> I just got back from that
20:35 <@SuMo_D> I want tags
20:36 <@SuMo_D> tacos
20:36 <@SuMo_D> I'd probably puke them up with my cipro
20:36 <@Dagmar> I should fix up my gloves.  I'm sure the feeling will return to my fingers in a few minutes
20:36 <@SuMo_D> but yeah mmm tacos
20:36 <@klixa> i like chipotle
20:36 <@wilpig> they brought some green sauce with these that tastes like a liquified jalepeno but a little hotter
20:36 <@Dagmar> I got nods from hombres
20:37 <@klixa> ")
20:37 <@klixa> err :)
20:37 <@Dagmar> Even messicans like Daft upnk
20:37 <@Dagmar> Ooo a typo!
20:37 <@Dagmar> I guess it's the feeling in my fingers that causes them
20:38 <@wilpig> lies.  
20:38 <@wilpig> pebkac
20:38 <@klixa> i like their ne song Lucky...even tho it sounds nothing like them
20:38 <@klixa> new8
20:38 <@Dagmar> wilpig: You'd like this chick from Cookeville that came to farm last night
20:38 <@Dagmar> Purple hair, spike heels.  :)
20:39 <@wilpig> sounds about my type.   trouble.  heh
20:39 <@klixa> but did she have a horse head mask? :|
20:39 <@Dagmar> If the cats from Knoxville show for the March 1st event we may have an entire team of freaks
20:39 <@Dagmar> She's mean as hell, too
20:39 <@Dagmar> Heh
20:40 <@wilpig> btw the taco meat is chorizo
20:40 <@klixa> hehe, no wonder you both are single...you like mean girls
20:41 <@wilpig> not mean.  i like broken.
20:41 <@Dagmar> I can deal with hardcore chicks
20:41 <@wilpig> the broken ones just tend to be mean
20:41 <@oddball> wilpig: ooo... that sounds like a good idea.
20:41 <@oddball> I guess I should figure out if I actually want to play Ingress or not.
20:41 <@SuMo_D> hardcore chicks can be very mean.. but depends on the scene
20:41  * klixa is nice
20:41 <@anarchival> wilpig: You know you like it when they rip your heart still-beating from your chest and eat it in front of you.
20:41 <@Dagmar> oddball: We *might* have enough people to matter this time
20:42 <@oddball> I guess that means I should actually pick shit up before hand, then.
20:42 <@Dagmar> Uh YES
20:42 <@anarchival> oddball: Do it for meeeeee. I want an Android phone. :(
20:42 <@klixa> SuMo_D: i used to have that look...i had a pink mohawk , etc.. but i ahjve always been nice
20:42 <@Dagmar> oddball: Should I start hammering you about farms?
20:42 <@oddball> I should probably figure out how to properly farm. :p
20:43 <@Dagmar> We wound up making BiCen a L8 farm last night.  My inventory was already full
20:43 <@oddball> Good news is it would get me out of the house.
20:43 <@Dagmar> Nothing but 7's and 8's now
20:43 <@SuMo_D> klixa, hardcore scenes I've been around its usually black t-shirt + jeans no hawks
20:43 <@SuMo_D> chains + studs maybe
20:44 <@klixa> right now i am wearing a black shirt with ythe super wide neck so it hangs off shoulder...with purple strappy shirt underneath (and the black shirt has purple on it to match straps) then dark blue jeans and bots
20:44 <@klixa> boots*
20:44 <@anarchival> Oh! Oh! Speaking of ripping out hearts and eating them: Knights of Badassdom.
20:44 <@klixa> this is typical of how i dress
20:44 <@SuMo_D> sounds cute klixa :)
20:44 <@klixa> yesterday i wore a deadmaus shirt...who i care nothing about but the short was a mouse shaped circuit board
20:44 <@klixa> i lik emice
20:44 <@klixa> i like circuit boards
20:44 <@SuMo_D> fun
20:44 <@anarchival> Steve Zahn + Peter Dinklage + swords + magick + metal.
20:45 <@anarchival> It's ridiculously stupid, but in a good way.
20:45 <@Dagmar> oddball: if you took Ponya to the zoo tomorrow, it's all full of L8 portals
20:45 <@opticron> anarchival, saw that last night, it was awesome
20:45 <@Dagmar> LIke every damn exhibit
20:45 <@wilpig> I still don't like portals being in the zoo
20:45 <@oddball> damn
20:45 <@wilpig> pay to play is just shitty
20:45 <@Dagmar> Well, people wanted to see the fuzzies
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20:46 <@Dagmar> Also, it will piss off some smurfs, so there's that
20:46 <@Dagmar> hehe
20:46 <@Dagmar> Tomorrow I'm going to pay a visit to the Ag center and do a little "recycling".
20:46 <@wilpig> surprised you didn't have the floater out there.  doesn't he and his brood have a membership there?
20:46 <@Dagmar> Since my inventory is full, I guess I'll just have to set off all the bursters I get
20:47 <@oddball> Naienko has suggested I go to the gun range tomorrow to blow off steam over the Vanderbilt shit.  My application apparently disapeared... twice.
20:47 <@anarchival> Dagmar: Did you ever play gpsAssassins?
20:47 <@Dagmar> Fuckin' madness
20:47 <@wilpig> oddball: HR is ridiculous there
20:48 <@Dagmar> NotLarry will have to pester Lee about it I guess
20:48 <@Dagmar> Ham's last day was Friday
20:48 <@oddball> They've hired a guy, so it's too late now.
20:48 <@Dagmar> Sheesh
20:48 <@oddball> So... basically, I know, without a doubt, that HR fucked me out of a job.
20:52 <@wilpig> this place makes a decent guacamole, just slightly heavy on the onions
20:53 <@klixa> wilpig: one year...i added sweet potato to some guacamole (i dunno why) but it turned out AWESOME
20:54  * wilpig stares at klixa funny
20:54 < aestetix> you know what's funny
20:54 <@klixa> it makes guac have less claories/fat and gives it a sweetness...but all in all doesnt alter the taste too much...its yummy
20:54 < aestetix> hearing anarchists who call themselves communists advocate for limited government
20:54 <@klixa> wilpig: i lost 70 pounds right before i got pregnant...so...i do a lot of stuff to cut calories
20:55 <@SuMo_D> aestetix I've heard that before and yes, its hilarious... and the obviously don't understand the meanings associated
20:56 < aestetix> like oh I don't know the berkley communists who show up for the Ellsberg rally
20:57 <@anarchival> aestetix: Did you know that anarcho-communism predates the Bolsheviks? True story.
20:58 <@klixa> aestetix: people in berkely are retards...i found a macbook in the garbage in berkely one year
20:58 <@klixa> 2007
20:58 <@Bahhumbug> Seems about right.
20:58 <@brimstone> it did someone wrong
20:58 <@klixa> it was dead... but... all i did was clean the mobo and i used it until 2 years ago
20:58 < aestetix> nice
20:59 <@klixa> it was a whote core 2 duo... my first mac :)
20:59 <@klixa> white*
21:00 <@klixa> brimstone: lol
21:00 <@klixa> aestetix: how long have you been in the bag
21:00 <@klixa> bay*
21:00 < aestetix> klixa: five years
21:00 <@anarchival> The Conquest of Macbooks.
21:01 <@klixa> aestetix: im considering making the bay my permanent residence...i have been in cali for about 7 years...but mostly in LA...
21:01 < aestetix> ok
21:05 <@Shadow404> you know, women are so much more enjoyable, whrn gagged and masked
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21:05 <@klixa> Shadow404: um...
21:06 < aestetix> penis
21:06 < aestetix> the tool of the oppressor class
21:06 < aestetix> oh btw
21:06 < aestetix> I went to noisebridge on thursday for the first time in over a year, to give a 5mof talk
21:07 < aestetix> I opened my talk with the george carlin quote.... the 7 words... to directly violate the ridiculous anti-harassment policy to see if they'd kick me out
21:07 < aestetix> and nope!
21:09 <@klixa> i like george carlin
21:10 < aestetix> even though he's part of the oppressor class?
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21:11 <@klixa> oppressor/s/wallet
21:11 < aestetix> wallet is just a tool of oppression
21:11 <@klixa> i like men
21:11 <@Dickie> gay
21:14 <@SuMo_D> aestetix glad you weren't tried to be enforced upon
21:14 <@SuMo_D> sorry was off in trip glassy land... man I love these things
21:14 <@SuMo_D> also DUDE they cleared my cipro brain fog earlier and helped calm some nausea down
21:14 <@SuMo_D> was rad
21:14 < aestetix> SuMo_D: well, the rule is useless if they don't enforce it
21:15 < aestetix> ok afk
21:15 <@SuMo_D> although this time... doesn't seem to be working as well... brb
21:18 <@klixa> ok i took this pic on my roadtrip http://imgur.com/x2HAZaX
21:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: 23 Fap - Imgur (at imgur.com)
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21:54 < aestetix> ugh
21:54 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/Dymaxion/status/437413337928704000
21:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / Dymaxion: .@cliffordheath Criticism is ... (at twitter.com)
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21:55 <@RangerZ> no wonder... I wondered why I hadn't read any messages with just 'penis' in them
21:56 < aestetix> RangerZ: what?
21:56 <@RangerZ> i wasn't connected to the server
21:56 <@RangerZ> so i couldn't see your regular comments
21:56 <@RangerZ> lol
21:57 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Is your scanner full?
21:57 < aestetix> oh lol
21:57 <@RangerZ> ehh
22:00 < aestetix> penis
22:00 < aestetix> there you go
22:06 <@RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC6XcW30UDw so ...this... is a thing
22:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitch Plays Pokemon - Delicious, Beautiful CHAOS - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:06 <@RangerZ> 55k people watching right now
22:07 <@Dagmar> DEOCRACY!
22:07 <@Dagmar> er
22:07 <@Dagmar> Democracy
22:07 <@Dagmar> So much for that joke
22:07 <@RangerZ> yep
22:07  * klixa zaps everyone with thet MIB wand thing
22:08 <@klixa> 21:06:22 RangerZ: 55k people watching right now
22:08 <@RangerZ> yes?
22:08 <@klixa> i was trying to save his joke...but yeah, it's 100% dead now
22:10 < aestetix> klixa: so when do you get to oakland
22:10 < aestetix> coming to the city hall meeting on wednesday?
22:10 <@klixa> monday i think... im stuck outside vacaville atm
22:10 <@klixa> gotta put in a new transmission
22:11 < aestetix> https://oaklandprivacy.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/february-26-oakland-dac-privacy-policy-framework-meeting/
22:11 < aestetix> you should come to this
22:17 <@RangerZ> aestetix: stop trying to convince her that oakland is a real city
22:17 <@RangerZ> and not a sad joke that berkeley and san fran have pulled on the area
22:17 <@RangerZ> lol
22:17 < aestetix> oh fucking fauxminists
22:17 < aestetix> I just messaged a friend asking what we could do at HOPE to make things more inviting
22:17 < aestetix> here is what she replied
22:17 < aestetix> Childcare, discounted student tickets, code of conduct, mentors to work w/ minorities on talks, cover costs, actively solicit specific women
22:17 < aestetix> she has obviously never run a conference
22:18 < aestetix> childcare alone would create a logistics nightmare
22:18 < aestetix> whereas someone could just leave their kid at home
22:19 <@Dagmar> Or sell 'em on Craigslist
22:19 < aestetix> hahaha
22:19 < aestetix> discounting student tickets and covering costs involves assuming you have money to do that
22:19 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, I'm sorry.. You can't sell children on craigslist.
22:19 <@Dagmar> You have to sell a 9-iron and give the kid away as a free throw-in
22:20 < aestetix> haha
22:21 <@wilpig> aestetix: wow.  just wow
22:21 < aestetix> code of conduct I'm pretty much opposed to, unless it's "don't be a dick"
22:22 < aestetix> I love the idea of mentors, but why limit mentors to minorities
22:22 <@Dagmar> because white people shoudln't be allowed to do things.
22:22 <@wilpig> why limit it to mentorship?  why not just get someone to write a presentation on something and then give it to a minority to present
22:22 < aestetix> but yeah. childcare opens you up to so many lawsuits
22:22 <@Bahhumbug> Even CentOS is crowing about CoCs now.
22:23 <@Bahhumbug> And they didn't seem to like my "Don't Be A Dick" rule.
22:23 < aestetix> Aside from the whole insurance against having children present beyond certain hours, there's also making sure a licensed professional is with them, paying that professional for their time, etc
22:24 <@Bahhumbug> Childcare is a retarded idea.
22:24 < aestetix> right
22:24 < aestetix> how about, if you bring your kid, you assume full responsibility for them
22:24 <@Bahhumbug> I would never trust my kids (if I was stupid enough to have any) to some childcare at a con.
22:25 <@wilpig> but aestetix you're keeping that vast sea of women professionals from presenting that the only thing keeping them away was childcare
22:26 <@Bahhumbug> Or keeping their legs closed in the first place.
22:26 < aestetix> one thing I would be happy to do at HOPE is make free condoms available
22:26 <@Dagmar> The key is to hire a local daycare center to provide staff, and to carefully shred all the paperwork
22:27 < aestetix> now if someone wants to take it upon themselves to hold a daycare at HOPE and cover all the costs, and make sure it doesn't interfere with anything, that might be something we could work work
22:27 < aestetix> MAYBE
22:27 <@RangerZ> aestetix: childcare would fucking destroy HOPE, it would be such a legal nightmare
22:27 < aestetix> I know
22:28 <@Bahhumbug> Childcare is a retarded idea.
22:28 <@Bahhumbug> I can not overstate this enough.
22:28 <@Dagmar> I don't want to think about what that would entail at DragonCon
22:28 <@Bahhumbug> Pain.
22:28 <@Bahhumbug> Misery.
22:28 <@Bahhumbug> Suffering.
22:28 <@Bahhumbug> Lawsuits.
22:28 <@Dagmar> Fat men in diapers
22:28 <@RangerZ> so parent x2
22:28 <@RangerZ> parenting*
22:28 <@wilpig> Dagmar: +1
22:28 < aestetix> and no offense
22:29 < aestetix> but if having kids makes women such victims
22:29 < aestetix> then perhaps they should insist on the guy marrying them
22:29 < aestetix> because getting a divorce fucks men over
22:29 <@Dagmar> Hell it's not even safe to donate sperm now
22:29 <@Corydon76-home> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7onFrBK_hKE
22:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: ZOMBEAVERS - Official Trailer [HD] - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:31 < aestetix> one of the things I'm doing right now
22:31 < aestetix> is making sure there are a few key women involved in HOPE
22:31 < aestetix> so that when drama inevitably happens, they can make statements
22:31 <@RangerZ> aestetix: how dare you
22:31 <@RangerZ> you have MEN Involved at all
22:31 <@RangerZ> tsk
22:31 < aestetix> heh
22:32 < aestetix> one of whom has a kid
22:33 <@klixa> i dont think childcare should be offered at events
22:33 < aestetix> it certainly should not be
22:33 < aestetix> I don't even think Maker Faire offers that
22:34 <@klixa> i think its insane for many reasons... as a parent, i wouldnt leave my kid wiht "random only gonna be there a few days" people
22:34 <@klixa> but then also....from the event holder's perspective its a pain and a HUGE liability
22:34 <@oddball> I'm not sure about that.  I've been to several scifi cons that have had child care.  Of course, it usually worked by "you watch my kid for an hour or so, I watch yours."
22:34 <@klixa> oddball: i would NEVER agree to something like that
22:34 < aestetix> I really see no benefit to childcare
22:35 <@oddball> I don't think it should be expected, but if folks want to organize it...
22:35 <@klixa> best thing to do is leave them at home
22:35 < aestetix> yep
22:35 <@oddball> klixa: If it helps, this is at smaller scifi cons where a very high percentage of people have known each other for years.
22:36 <@klixa> oddball: im *very* overprotective
22:36 <@klixa> my baby hasn't been away from me since she was born at all
22:36 < aestetix> klixa: so you're a helicopter parent?
22:36 <@klixa> aestetix: ?
22:37 < aestetix> lol
22:37 <@Corydon76-home> He means you hover over your child at all times
22:37 <@oddball> there are certain scifi cons that are pretty much family reunions.
22:37 <@Corydon76-home> Most parents do fly-by's
22:37 <@klixa> hmmm...maybe i am a helicopter parent...
22:38 <@Corydon76-home> But it really only makes much of a difference once they're able to sit up and play with toys
22:39 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: toys they could hurt themselves with.
22:39 < aestetix> At which point, the conference gets sued.
22:39 <@Corydon76-home> One of the basic problems with hovering over your child is that they will get separation anxiety very easily.  Think about your kid's first day of school
22:39 <@klixa> i plan on home schooling...
22:40 <@Corydon76-home> Think about when your kid gets an invite to a birthday party.
22:40 <@klixa> my kid is 3 and a half months atm
22:40 <@klixa> im supposed to hover
22:40 <@Corydon76-home> Do you have a copy of "What to Expect..." on child-rearing?
22:41 < aestetix> That's an age where they shit and puke a lot, riht?
22:41 <@klixa> aestetix: yeah...and smile and laugh and make cute noises
22:41 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: i do
22:41 <@Corydon76-home> I'll defer to that authority
22:41 <@klixa> she can stand now too...with help...and look in the mirror...
22:41 < aestetix> And there's the whole "new baby" smell, which is mostly a bunch of poop and puke
22:42 <@klixa> they dont puke, they spit up
22:42 <@Dagmar> OH JOY
22:43 <@Dagmar> I've somehow been invited to the Women's Enlightentment (Ingress) Community.
22:43 <@Dagmar> Again.
22:43 < aestetix> Dagmar: you like baby poop?
22:43 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: do you have a little boy or a little girl?
22:43 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: girl
22:43 <@Dagmar> I think I'm going to accept the invite this time and just post "Hey there, Ladies... *grin*"
22:43 < aestetix> How did you get an invite?
22:43 <@Bahhumbug> Female name?
22:43 < aestetix> That seems like a church group inviting Satan
22:43 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, so you don't get the delightful experience of when you're changing a diaper, and the cold air hits his penis, and he pisses in your face.
22:44 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Also, merl is telling me that Nadia Amro is single.  ;)
22:44 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Considering the state of geeks today, the Nashville ingress chicks love the hell out of me
22:45 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: she peed once when her diaper was off... thats it
22:45 <@Corydon76-home> There's this motion that new mothers of boys learn, to pull the dirty diaper away, then back, to catch any stream that may erupt
22:45 <@klixa> and it wasnt aimed at my face (i have a little brother who is 11 years younger...so i sw that happn a lot)
22:46 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, heh
22:46 < aestetix> klixa: does she usually make wet poops, or solid log turds?
22:46 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, so your younger brother should be old enough to drink at cons now, right?
22:46 <@klixa> aestetix: they dont do solid ones as newborns
22:46 < aestetix> ugh
22:46 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: my little brother has 2 babies and his youngest is older than mine
22:47 < aestetix> Do they leak?
22:47 <@klixa> aestetix: they arent runny either...
22:47 <@Corydon76-home> Got an early start, did he?
22:47 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: yeah...well, 21 is when he started
22:47 < aestetix> Are they colorful, or mostly black/brown?
22:47 <@klixa> aestetix: yellow is the newborn poop color
22:47 < aestetix> god
22:47 <@Corydon76-home> Or green
22:48 <@klixa> i have seen green with sy formula
22:48 <@klixa> but soy makes her sick
22:48 < aestetix> note to self: never change a diaper while on lsd
22:48 <@klixa> note to you...dont deal with a baby at all while on lsd
22:48 < aestetix> s/while on lsd//
22:48 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: if you're doing any drugs while there's a baby in the vicinity, you need to be beaten.
22:49 <@klixa> thats my baby https://scontent-b-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/l/t31/q71/s720x720/1926268_247568395425360_220320360_o.jpg
22:49 < aestetix> Do you have any photos of changing her diaper?
22:49 <@brimstone> selfies with you and the dirty deed
22:50 <@Corydon76-home> Amongst other problems, there's also the issue of a kid getting their hands on those drugs.  And guess where kids tend to put new things first.
22:50 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: WTF is wrong with you?
22:50 < aestetix> Maybe you could monitor the color of her poop over the years
22:50 <@Bahhumbug> Well then you best make sure that all the moms that are on xanax and other drugs stop immediately.
22:51 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: which question was over the line?
22:51 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: if they're in the habit of leaving their drugs where a baby could get at them, maybe they should
22:51 < aestetix> of course
22:51 < aestetix> I have actually babysat for a 2 year old while her mother was in the garage smoking crack
22:51 <@Corydon76-home> People who take LSD typically don't stow the hits on a high shelf, in a child-resistant bottle
22:52 < aestetix> That was not fun, but I wanted to make sure the baby would be ok
22:52 <@Bahhumbug> Instead of calling the cops?
22:52 <@klixa> aestetix: i hope you are kidding
22:52 < aestetix> long story
22:52 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: Sorry, that's just a load of crap.
22:52 <@Corydon76-home> Call child welfare, not the cops
22:52 < aestetix> This was like 10 years ago
22:53 <@Bahhumbug> The cops will call child welfare or whatever passes for it in the state.
22:53 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: Oh, good, so the child is probably beyond help now
22:53 <@klixa> yeah, much easier to call cops
22:53 <@Bahhumbug> Stupid bitch should be in jail and the kid away from her.  For good.
22:54 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: probably.
22:54 < aestetix> I don't know. I haven't talked to them in years
22:54 <@klixa> Bahhumbug: ikr, what kind of person has aestetix watch their child?!?!?!?!?!?!
22:54 <@Corydon76-home> How the hell do you sleep at night?
22:54 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: Soundly.
22:54 <@Bahhumbug> Without kids in the house disturbing my sleep :)
22:54 <@Bahhumbug> klixa: hahaha
22:54 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: hahaha
22:55 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: I have two cats. They disturb me plenty.
22:55 <@Bahhumbug> I have... a large multiple of that number.
22:55 <@Bahhumbug> They are generally good when I am sleeping.
22:57 <@Dagmar> klixa: You hit the nail on the head
22:57 <@Dagmar> ...although honestly freaks are probbaly some of the best people to watch kids
22:58 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: Oh, so you're a cat lady
22:58 <@Dagmar> They know _exactly_ what shouldn't be going on, and will go to great lengths to make sure no one says "Well, of _course_ the kid ate a bunch of mushrooms/paint/glitter while that freak was 'watching' him."
22:58 <@klixa> lol
22:58 <@Bahhumbug> Not the last time I looked, no.
22:59 <@Dagmar> If nothing else they'll put a NotLarry and say "Alright... So if we just sit right here on the couch and watch TV all night, nothing can possibly go wrong."
22:59 <@Dagmar> ...aside from possibly the duct tape.
22:59 <@Corydon76-home> The sad thing is how many people I know who live alone, except for their cats
23:00 <@Dagmar> Freaks are careless about their personal stuff, but when serious things are on the line, they can get super-focused
23:01 <@klixa> Dagmar: you know... I actually believe that...I'm not a *freak* anymore... but I did always looks like one, people htought I was one, etc...btu I have aways been very responsible with things that matter, ie. people's kids or pets
23:02 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: If they have cats they are not alone.
23:02 <@Bahhumbug> And that is the mentality at play here.  To a t.
23:03 <@Dagmar> If I have to hold my breath for ten minutes to keep the child from doing something like eating a bag of staples, you can bet I'll be unconcious very soon
23:06 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: I'll remember that after you die, and they find cats feasting on your corpse.
23:06 < NotLarry> klixa: I'm good with kids.  Ask Wal-mart.  That tro is no in place cause I'm not good with kids...
23:07 <@klixa> tro?
23:07 <@Dagmar> Temporary Restraining Order
23:07 <@Bahhumbug> I'm married and my wife is likely to outlive me by a large margin.  I'm not really all that concerned with such a thing occuring.
23:07 < aestetix> Why would she outlive you?
23:08 < NotLarry> Bahhumbug: Can i get her number?
23:08 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: because she doesn't have a wife to drive her up the wall.
23:08 <@Bahhumbug> She didn't smoke cigarettes for 27 years nor pot for ~ 30.
23:08 <@klixa> my father just recently died...he chain smoked...he was 83
23:08 <@klixa> 83 is a long time
23:08 < NotLarry> No, but she fucked you, and that is probably enough.
23:09 < NotLarry> sorry, sorry, that was uncalled for.
23:09 <@Corydon76-home> Ouch
23:09 <@klixa> you can never predict how long anyone will live
23:09 < aestetix> lol
23:09 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: no, just an average lifespan based upon past indiscretions
23:10 < NotLarry> Damn it, I said I was sorry, stop bringing it back up.
23:10 <@Corydon76-home> Smoking doesn't kill everyone, but it does drop the average age by quite a number
23:10 < NotLarry> I think I need to go take drugs.
23:10 < NotLarry> Oh, beer, I wonder if I have beer left.
23:10 <@klixa> im so glad i quit smoking
23:10 <@Corydon76-home> I have another two hours before I need to take more drugs
23:11 <@klixa> its been 15 months now
23:11 < NotLarry> Dagmar: you get out to ride today?
23:11 < NotLarry> 15 years
23:11 < NotLarry> klixa: 15 years
23:11 <@klixa> NotLarry: you quit 15 years ago?
23:11 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: HELL YES I DID
23:11 < NotLarry> Yeah, the day my kid said he wanted to smoke just like me when he grew up.
23:12 < NotLarry> It was fucking nice out.
23:12 <@Dagmar> I pretty much just ran laps up and down Charlotte for about an hour.  :)
23:12 < NotLarry> I only got to ride down to Kroger and back, but it was the best 3 miles in the last 5 months or so.
23:12 <@klixa> NotLarry: i told my parents something like that when i was 4, and they handed me a cigarette :|
23:12 <@klixa> NotLarry: i took one drag...coghed...and told them they were retarded...then grew up and started smoking
23:12 < NotLarry> See, and now your dad is dead.
23:12 <@klixa> my mom is dead too...at 48
23:12 <@klixa> long time ago
23:12 <@Corydon76-home> NotLarry: last time being when you carried a hog on a Hog?
23:13 <@klixa> both of them had heart attacks at age 48... tho my father survived his...smoking is the only thing they had in common...and coffee
23:13 < NotLarry> They used to tell a "cute" story of how I came out of my mother having a nicottine fit.  I would not stop crying till they gave her a smoke.
23:13 <@Bahhumbug> Five years, one month, one week, 37,359 cigarettes not smoked for a savings of $7,400.00 based on smoking habits and price when I quit.
23:13 < NotLarry> Bahhumbug: nice
23:13 < NotLarry> Then the both smoked in the house for the 17 years I was there
23:13 <@klixa> convos like this make me want a cigarette...
23:14 <@klixa> i wonder if that will ever go away
23:14 < NotLarry> Then I smoked till 1999
23:14 <@klixa> the urge is not strong at all..not enugh to tempt me...but i *want* one now
23:14 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: kind of how I'd like to suck a dick?
23:14 < NotLarry> I have had one puff on real drag on a cigarette and it was because somehow Mavericks gf light my cigarette while I wasn't watching
23:15 < NotLarry> Wasn't watching the cigarette, she had taken her top off.
23:15 < NotLarry> Nice bit of social engineering that was.
23:15 <@Dagmar> Dirty pool!
23:15 < NotLarry> She had very nice tits, very nice.  I caught all over them, but they were pretty just the same.
23:16 < NotLarry> s/caught/coughed
23:19 <@Dagmar> They were a good investment.
23:19 <@Dagmar> Money absolutely well spent.
23:21 <@klixa> the net here is really fast for free wifi... 3mb/s
23:21 <@Dagmar> That's becuase you're in an area that has competition.
23:23 <@klixa> *nods*
23:25 <@oddball> Oops.  Looks like the government has shut down internet access in Venezuela: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/02/23/0215213/internet-shutdown-adds-to-venezuelas-woes
23:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Internet Shutdown Adds To Venezuela's Woes - Slashdot (at yro.slashdot.org)
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23:28 !adams.freenode.net [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp
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23:29 < NotLarry> Corydon76-home: pics right?:)
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23:57 <@Shadow404> heh, same shell, different irc server
23:58 <@Shadow404> whats up with freenode, ddos kiddies?
23:58 <@oddball> I think so, yes.
23:59 <@oddball> Because they're uber l337 h4x0rs
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