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00:04 <@klixa> yes
00:34 <@wilpig> http://geekologie.com/2014/02/man-banned-from-the-internet-for-using-c.php
00:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: Man Banned From The Internet For Using Craigslist To Send Naked Dudes To His Neighbor's House | Geekologie (at geekologie.com)
00:37 < RangerZ2> wilpig how did you get around the ban to post that to us?
00:39 <@Corydon76-home> That's what scares me about some of the posts I see on CL...
00:39 <@Corydon76-home> "Door will be open, come in and find me on the bed."
00:39 <@Corydon76-home> What happens if you open the wrong door?
00:41 < RangerZ2> or they type 5 instead of 6 by accident
00:41 < RangerZ2> etc
00:42 <@Corydon76-home> Right, or the rape fantasies
00:43 < RangerZ2> honestly i wish CL hadn't gotten rid of the 'paid services' section or w/e it was called, because it made the personals section kinda a joke
00:44 <@Corydon76-home> Adult services
00:44 <@Corydon76-home> and there's backpages.com for that
00:44 < RangerZ2> AJ(S) getting on their white knight horses
00:45 <@Corydon76-home> I typically enjoy reading the personals just for the amateur porn that gets posted there
00:45 < RangerZ2> my friend was trying to setup her in home/business massage services (an actual masseuse) at the time, and it ruined her most profitable advertising mechanism
00:45 < RangerZ2> b/c when they got rid of 'adult' they got rid of massages or w/e too
00:46 < RangerZ2> << Honestly forgets
00:46 < RangerZ2> all I remember, was she was pissed
00:46 < RangerZ2> she'd make a couple grand by going to a business and giving massages all day
00:46 < RangerZ2> (over the month, not each day)
00:48 <@wilpig> RangerZ2: the tumblr NY office has a service that does that
00:48 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: are there any hot guys who give massages?
00:49 <@wilpig> I wouldn;t know.  but I do know thye are just doing chair massages so no happy endings
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00:52 <@Corydon76-home> I don't think I really want a masseuse touching my junk anyway
00:52 <@NotLarry> Does that mean you don't want me to give you a massage?
00:55 <@wilpig> i'm passing out.  night all
00:56 <@NotLarry> rafiq just walked in
00:56 <@NotLarry> night wilbur
00:57 <@Corydon76-home> I prefer to be the one giving happy endings
00:57 <@Corydon76-home> Sucky sucky battely not incruded
00:59 < aestetix_> vagina
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01:07 < RangerZ2> ohh BTW, that 'study' that showed that trolls are sadistic, etc
01:07 < RangerZ2> was an _online poll_
01:07 < RangerZ2> asking questions like "I like to hurt other people" et
01:07 < RangerZ2> etc*
01:07 < RangerZ2> the fucking study got trolled
01:08 <@klixa> i know a sadistic troll
01:08 <@klixa> i dated him
01:08 <@klixa> on valentines day he pm-ed me... it said "i love you" "just kidding, i hate you. fuck you" i laughed
01:13 < aestetix_> klixa: do you like sweaty feet?
01:13 <@klixa> aestetix_: no
01:14 < aestetix_> do you like sucking on toes that are not sweaty?
01:14 <@klixa> no oppinion on that
01:14 < aestetix_> so yes
01:15 < aestetix_> What would you do if you were sucking on someone's toe and he farted?
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01:21 <@klixa> aestetix_: stop and laugh
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01:40 < RangerZ2> aestetix_: ever had someone fart in your face while going down on them?
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01:47 <@NotLarry> Got a friend who got his nose broke going down on his gf.
01:48 <@NotLarry> Near a cliff on Lake Tuscaloosa.  Said he almost fell off the cliff.
01:51 < RangerZ2> lol
01:51 < RangerZ2> i've heard of the guy getting his head squeezed by the girl's thighs, some to the point of almost passing out/being painful
01:52 < RangerZ2> but never a 'nose broken'
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02:23 <@wilpig> NotLarry: you at work?
02:28 <@wilpig> nm I just talked to rafiq
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06:32 < aestetix_> peehole
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07:27 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:33 <@wilpig> awww they killed off kenzie on lost girl
08:34 <@Dolemite> Mother fucker
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--- Log opened Mon Feb 17 08:34:49 2014
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08:34 !adams.freenode.net [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp
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08:35 <@Dolemite> You deserved every bit of that
08:35 <@wilpig> probably
08:35 <@wilpig> I was even productive last night too, bitch.
08:36 <@Dolemite> I was pulling for some kind of resurrection for Hale, too.
08:37 <@wilpig> so today is supposedly one of the best days of the year to buy a couch.  i'm considering it
08:37 <@Dolemite> Really?  President's Day is a sale day for something useful?
08:37 <@wilpig> furniture.
08:37 <@wilpig> since most people don't even get the day off
08:39 <@wilpig> http://50shadesthemusical.com/tickets/
08:42 <@wilpig> Dolemite: here is something else to keep an eye on as well.  http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt-snmp#Download
08:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: libvirt: Wiki: Libvirt-snmp (at wiki.libvirt.org)
08:42 <@wilpig> they've been working on it for two years but it still isn't a default part of the package
08:44 <@Dolemite> Should be simple enough.  Is that something you use at Tumblr, or what you have running at home?
08:45 <@wilpig> home
08:45 <@wilpig> the instructions for getting it running are easy enough I just don't like having to recompile shit everytime I update
08:45 <@Bahhumbug> Does that support everything that libvirt can control?
08:45 <@Bahhumbug> Turning that into a package would be pretty trivial.
08:45 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: no control, just monitoring from what I was reading
08:45 <@Bahhumbug> What's your underlying hypervisor?
08:46 <@Bahhumbug> (And platform?)
08:46 <@Bahhumbug> Supposedly that can set domain attributes.
08:46 <@wilpig> unfortunately that's on my ubuntu box
08:46 <@Bahhumbug> I've been wanting to play with it for some time but just haven't found the time.
08:46 <@Bahhumbug> Ok, sucks to be you.
08:46 <@wilpig> yup
08:46 <@wilpig> only distro that would run on that hardware
08:46 <@wilpig> really annoyed me
08:47 <@Bahhumbug> Bleah.
08:47 <@Bahhumbug> What's the hardware?
08:47 <@Bahhumbug> If it's Haswell, well...
08:47 <@wilpig> nope.  older.  there is no reason something else shouldn't run but when I was setting it up years ago nothing else would
08:47 <@Dolemite> http://gawker.com/man-banned-from-the-internet-for-sending-naked-men-to-1522072855
08:48 <@Dolemite> Need to send that to lastchild
08:48 <@wilpig> Dolemite: we saw that last night.  did you notice the dude's name?
08:48 <@wilpig> I hit him with it already
08:48 <@Dolemite> Yeah, that's what immediately caught my attention
08:49 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: supposedly just using their build script is supposed to make an rpm at the same time
08:49 <@Bahhumbug> Excellent.
08:49 <@Bahhumbug> Now assuming it works with el5/6 libvirt all will be well with the world.
08:50 <@wilpig> it should.
08:50 <@Bahhumbug> libvirt-snmp-0.0.2-4.el6 already exists for el6.
08:51 <@Bahhumbug> (I doubt it will work for el5)
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09:14 <@wilpig> btw, today is Goat21's birthday
09:16 <@Dolemite> Yep, already mentioned it on his FB timeline
09:23 <@brimstone> Goat22 now?
09:29 <@Dolemite> Goat30
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09:37 <@Dagmar> BahHumbug: considering that RedHat has really thrown some people into the development of libvirt, yeah, it's going to run on RHEL.  T
09:39 <@Dagmar> Sending naked men to his neighbor's doorstep... Heh
09:39 <@Dagmar> Apparently he must have forgotten to qualify that they need to be good looking or there probably wouldn't have been a problem.
09:47 <@Dagmar> What the
09:47 <@wilpig> ?
09:47 <@Dagmar> <Will_Esco> Anybody here know how to make a minecraft server? I made a multi threaded server in C compiled with gcc with stack overflow protection disabled in order to test a buffer overflow against it with a script I wrote in perl, and was wondering if anyone had any known buffer overflows associated with the server side.
09:48 <@Dagmar> <Will_Esco> I mean the process was spawned after I attached the debugger to it and its not generating a core-dump file upon crashing.
09:49 <@brimstone> is it a bot?
09:49 <@wilpig> o.O
09:49 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to figure out if it's a troll or just a colossal idiot
09:50 <@brimstone> or a recruiter
09:50 <@brimstone> so many buzzwords
09:53 <@wilpig> it's a buzzbot
10:00 <@Dagmar> Sadly no.  It's a skiddie of some kind
10:01 <@wilpig> isn't that the same thing?
10:02 <@Dagmar> Dude just called Stack Overflow a blog
10:02 <@Dagmar> *facepalm*
10:03 <@wilpig> i'm standing on buzzbot
10:03 <@Dagmar> He keeps saying he's using Kali linux
10:04 <@Dagmar> ...and that apparently it's version of gdb somehow doesn't support the generate-core-file command
10:04 <@Dagmar> daqfuq
10:10 <@Dagmar> <Will_Esco> I does its not the ideal OS to write and compile code. LOL.
10:10 <@Dagmar> <Will_Esco> Im a fool for trying.
10:10 <@Dagmar> I want his dealer's number
10:10 <@Dagmar> At least he didn't get all furious when I said I was assuming he was just high and not stupid
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10:32 <@Bahhumbug> The current production versions of libvirt for EL trails the bleeding edge crap in fedora and elsewhere; I've learned quite some time ago to not make assumptions that things will work where they should work on EL - especially EL5.
10:32 <@Bahhumbug> But, as it's in [base]...
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13:20 <@Mirage> wilpig: Hearthstone cheats like a MF
13:22 <@Dagmar> lol
13:22 <@Dagmar> It doesn't cheat
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13:26 <@Dagmar> The outcome of that last tutorial fight is just more random than anyone really likes
13:28 <@wilpig> Mirage: it's pretty fuckin' random for sure
13:30 <@Dagmar> Does it still apologize for the last battle kind of sucking?
13:33 <@Mirage> so far random for me is...get the shit kicked out of me no matter what i do by a huge margin.
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13:36 <@Dagmar> Go for the throat
13:36 <@wilpig> Mirage: that's kinda why I stopped messing with it a great deal.
13:37 <@wilpig> it kept saying it was matching me up with players of equal skill and all that translated to was "suck it bitch!"
13:42 <@Mirage> i just got the priest down to 6 health, while i was at 22..he suddenly started getting heal cards and "kill any minion w/ 3 or less attack" every time i dropped a taunt.  i got bent over at the end and the priest had 28 health
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13:50 < nachoguy> what are you guys talking about?
13:50 <@wilpig> your mom
13:50 < nachoguy> that explains the priest
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14:01 <@Dagmar> Perhaps less taunting, more taking away teh puny 6 health
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14:03 <@Mirage> on matter what strat i decide to do, once i get the game opponent down to ~10-15, the cards get stacked in their favor
14:03 <@Mirage> it's annoying as fuck to get one down to 8 when you hav 15, then get killed in one round when they didn't have shit
14:28 <@wilpig> I just did something I swore I wouldn't after virgil's tv debut.
14:28 <@Dolemite> You watching Revenge of the Nerds?
14:28 <@wilpig> the second season of king of the nerds is even worse
14:28 <@Dolemite> Heh
14:30 <@wilpig> one of the "nerds" is a "japanophile" 
14:30 <@Dolemite> Well once you watching 90 Day Fiancee it was all downhill
14:30 <@wilpig> one is a pokemaster
14:30 <@Dolemite> watched
14:30 <@wilpig> 90 day fiance is hilarious!
14:31 <@brimstone> are 10GHz network cards a thing?
14:31 <@brimstone> or is this guy full of shit?
14:31 <@wilpig> brimstone: they are
14:31 <@wilpig> but he probably means 10Gb
14:31 <@brimstone> "Solarflare cards to support 10GHz on Sun Fire x4240"
14:31 <@brimstone> i asked him, hertz
14:32 <@Dolemite> Bus speed
14:32 <@wilpig> hrmm.  is that like the elite gaming network cards?
14:32 <@brimstone> elite gaming mice
14:32 <@brimstone> "Ultra-low click latency"
14:32 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: is that even possible?
14:32 <@Dolemite> Shared bus between multiple processors
14:33 <@Corydon76-home> Isn't the bus usually slower than the processor, though?
14:33 <@Dolemite> Usually, yes...
14:33 <@brimstone> this guy said it was the processor on the nic itself?
14:33 <@Dagmar> brimstone: That was a thing about 12 years ago
14:33 <@Dagmar> brimstone: They're hoping you'll fall for the sucker bait
14:33 <@brimstone> then i'm caught, "i have no idea what processor speed my nic uses."
14:33 <@Dolemite> It's like gold plated HDMI cables
14:34 <@brimstone> Enhanced Digital Signal
14:34 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: gold plated is one thing (resists corrosion).  Gold cables are another entirely.
14:34 <@Dagmar> brimstone: Either that or they're talking about wireless spectrum
14:34 <@wilpig> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833342001
14:35 <@Dolemite> Yes, but pitching gold plated as a premium due to the improved signal quality is another
14:35 <@brimstone> 1 x USB2.0
14:35 <@brimstone> need at least quad USB 3.0+ or I'm out
14:35 <@Dolemite> Basically, Monster Cable and Beats by Dr. Dre (which is also made by Monster!)
14:35 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: the resistance to corrosion means improved signal quality, yes.
14:35 <@brimstone> see, this has a "400MHz Network Processor Unit"
14:36 <@Corydon76-home> However, there are others who are marketing actual gold filament cables
14:36 <@brimstone> "The Nickel-Plated Aluminum Heatsink helps to dissipate heat from the NPU while it runs advanced networking and Flexible Network Architecture (FNA) functions. "
14:36 <@brimstone> i can't
14:37 <@wilpig> oh gees.  the japanophile kicked out the actual nerd, inorganic chemist.
14:37 <@Corydon76-home> though, honestly, unless you're in an environment (like near seawater) where corrosion of contacts is actually a problem, gold plating is mostly useless
14:49 <@wilpig> this bitch needs to go.  her voice is horrible.
15:00 <@rattle> http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/02/16/1-in-4-americans-thinks-sun-orbits-earth/?hpt=hp_t3
15:00 <@rattle> Too many dumb people.
15:00 <@brimstone> 5 out of every 10 people are below average
15:01 <@wilpig> rattle: we have a solution.  we just need to dig a big enough pit to fit them all in
15:04 <@wilpig> there is something hot about a chick talking about letting the magic smoke out of a capacitor.
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15:10 <@opticron> brimstone, 5 out of every 10 people are above average, that makes me sad about where the average is
15:10 <@brimstone> opticron: it's somewhere between person 5 and 6, unless person 3 has stolen it and is hiding it in their jacker.
15:10 <@brimstone> *jacket
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15:47 <@rattle> Oh fucking-a.  Another 6 inches of snow tomorrow.
15:48 <@wilpig> you shut your whore mouth!
15:49 <@Corydon76-home> rattle: I see you're happy about your decision to live in the Boston area...
15:50 <@brimstone> it's 60 in Atlanta
15:50 <@brimstone> *64F
15:51 <@Corydon76-home> 62F in Nashville
15:51 <@rattle> I do generally like the snow, and the cold doesn't bother me..  I find the ubiquitous 20ft high piles of snow amusing.
15:51 <@rattle> But, a break would be nice.
15:56 <@wilpig> I just want enough of a break for my parking spot to thaw out a hair
15:56 <@wilpig> I've got a good 2-3" under my truck right now
15:57 <@rattle> I'm there with you on that.  About 5in here, and more on the sides.  If I don't pull in just the right amount, I can't open my door.
15:57 <@wilpig> I shoveled out between my trucks the other night so I don't have that problem.  but I have to thread the needle to get into my spot.
15:57 <@wilpig> there is a 4' pile on either side of my spot
15:57 <@rattle> Yep.  Same thing, only deeper.
15:58 <@wilpig> my neighbors looked at me kinda funny when I was shoveling some of the snow into the bed of my truck.  lol
15:59 <@klixa> wilpig: i assume you did that to get rid of it...
16:00 <@wilpig> Dementia just posted on facebook that they are getting thundersnow right now.
16:00 <@wilpig> klixa: yeah and I was tired at that point of walking all the way back to the pile I was making behind my truck
16:01 <@klixa> wilpig: i envy all the snow you are in right now... its all sunny here :?
16:01 <@klixa> err :/ damnit, i keep forgetting the shift key...for days now
16:01 <@wilpig> http://47.23.76.132/
16:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: Yawcam (at 47.23.76.132)
16:01 <@oddball> Apparently Nashville is supposed to have cold weather again next week... but no snow.
16:02 <@klixa> snow makes an ugly world pretty
16:02 <@Corydon76-home> They keep predicting snow for Nashville, and we keep not getting it.  I think they're modifying their forecasts accordingly.
16:02 <@klixa> winter wonderland
16:03 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: it's especially pretty when old people freeze to death
16:03 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: thats horrible
16:03 <@Corydon76-home> So is snow.
16:04 <@klixa> in nashville snow is horrible because no one is preapred for it and everyone runs to teh grocery store as though armegeddon is happening
16:04 <@klixa> but....everywhere else they have salt trucks and plows
16:04 <@Corydon76-home> Nashville has plenty of salt trucks
16:04 <@Corydon76-home> You're thinking of Atlanta
16:05 <@brimstone> hey
16:05 <@brimstone> we have like, 20 now
16:05 <@klixa> nashville is still VERY different than palces that are used to snow
16:05 <@Corydon76-home> brimstone: That's enough to clear, what, half of downtown?
16:06 <@brimstone> *maybe* the exits of 85
16:06 <@klixa> 85?
16:06 <@brimstone> I-85
16:06 <@klixa> ? where are you
16:06 <@brimstone> Atlanta?
16:06 <@klixa> hmmm
16:08 <@brimstone> hmmm?
16:09 <@klixa> not familiar wiht 85
16:09 <@brimstone> are you familiar with I-65?
16:09 <@brimstone> same thing, just further east
16:10 <@klixa> :P
16:12 <@oddball> Hey... if it's going to be cold out, we should at least get the pretty.
16:13 <@oddball> But no... we usually get either just cold or ice.
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16:16 <@SuMo_D> ello
16:16 <@SuMo_D> what's good in da virtual hood
16:16 <@wilpig> thundersnow
16:18 <@klixa> nothing :/
16:18 <@klixa> Dagmar hmm, apprently your name is a normal name in germany
16:19  * klixa just learned this on facebook because her sister is german, and someone named Dagmar liked a post
16:19 <@oddball> It's a common scandanavian name... for women.
16:20 <@klixa> oh? so this person might be a woman then.... /me checks
16:20 <@SuMo_D> my friend's wife's name is Dagmar, she's German
16:20 <@SuMo_D> thundershow!
16:20 <@SuMo_D> that always makes me think of the deathklock song Thunderhorse
16:20 <@oddball> While we have... rain.
16:21 <@oddball> Not Thunderstruck?
16:23 <@oddball> Just realized... I haven't seen She Who Must Not Be Named in here for a while.  Did she figure out the hints?
16:23 <@wilpig> she's popped ina  few times
16:23 <@wilpig> and immediately left too
16:23 <@wilpig> after her last outburst where nobody responded she may have gotten the hint
16:24 <@klixa> she has this channel on autojoin
16:24 <@klixa> and shes on freenode
16:25 <@SuMo_D> yeah she auto joins and then leaves right?
16:25 <@klixa> yeah
16:25 <@klixa> tho...i have to question why she hasnt taken it off autjoin
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> She's polluting #nlug and she's not done anything to merit getting banned.
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> Other than merely existing, of course.
16:27 <@oddball> klixa: Probably why I've never setup autojoin... laziness.
16:27 <@NotLarry> irl she seems to have something to contribute to the world.
16:27 <@Bahhumbug> I call bullshit.
16:27 <@klixa> oddball: depends on the client...i doubt shes using irssi or something
16:27 <@NotLarry> well, maybe not, but what little I talked to her she wasn't spewing profanity and her head was not spinning around while she vomited, like I would expect.
16:27 <@Bahhumbug> Then again I have absolutely no intention of ever meeting the ... witch ... in real life.
16:28 <@oddball> Yeah... in real life, she doesn't come off as a raging bitch.
16:28 <@wilpig> 16:28 CTCP VERSION reply from anarchival: Purple IRC
16:28 <@Corydon76-home> She's similar in real life.
16:28 <@klixa> NotLarry: i wont dispute whethere she has anything to contribute...but if she does, she makes obstacles for herself with her bad attitude
16:29 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: ++
16:30 <@SuMo_D> Is she part of the PN organizing committee? Did that ever get sorted out?
16:30 <@Corydon76-home> Plus there's the attitude of "trust me, I went to law school" which is elitist in the extreme.
16:31 <@NotLarry> I know, when did "Law" and "trust" ever get put together?
16:31 <@wilpig> Corydon76-home: I kept countering that shit with "explain it"
16:31 <@Corydon76-home> Anybody who wants to be is part of that committee.  The requirements aren't anything more than simply showing up
16:31 <@oddball> SuMo_D: Well.... it's kind of iffy.  She definately has the ear of JonnyX (who's the current prez), but no official title.
16:31 <@wilpig> oddball: and the vp\
16:31 <@NotLarry> What do you call 50000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
16:31 <@klixa> that baffes me
16:31 <@klixa> baffles*
16:31 <@oddball> wilpig: Is she?  I thought she didn't actually have a title.
16:32 <@Corydon76-home> NL: a good start
16:32 <@klixa> wilpig: who is the vp
16:32 <@wilpig> oddball: no, she has no tiltle.  she's in dink's ear as well
16:32 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: she has the ear of the VP
16:32 <@oddball> Ah, right.
16:33 <@oddball> Speaking of which... weren't we supposed to have a walkthrough of the Maxwell House?
16:33 <@Corydon76-home> These are the risks when nobody wants to be in charge, so we end up selecting whomever wants the position
16:33 <@Bahhumbug> I am still confused that he's VP.
16:33 <@klixa> its always amazing when a hated person can be liked by some people (i have seen 300+ member chatrooms go down cause some new person came and the op liked them and the other 299 people didnt)
16:33 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: He gave us a wad of money in the last several years.
16:33 <@wilpig> oddball: from the notes that went out I think she suggested using the new downtown conference center which gave JX another excuse to delay with
16:33 <@Bahhumbug> Oh?  So I can buy officer positions?
16:34 <@Bahhumbug> That's good to know.
16:34 <@SuMo_D> who is the VP now?
16:34 <@wilpig> Corydon76-home: I gave nash2600 a wad of money the last few years too
16:34 <@Bahhumbug> LcElroy
16:34 <@Bahhumbug> Err
16:34 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: You give the organization $3k, I think we'd strongly consider it
16:34 <@Bahhumbug> McElroy
16:34 <@Bahhumbug> If I do I'm going to clean house :)
16:34 <@Bahhumbug> But, the chances of that happening are quite slim.
16:35 <@oddball> Yeah... I considered going for VP... but I'm also seriously considering saying "fuck it" and walking away.
16:35 <@Bahhumbug> I have better uses for 3k.
16:35 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: the organization is strongly democratic
16:35 <@Bahhumbug> Uh-huh.
16:36 <@Corydon76-home> In the last email go-around, I got "You tried to be too democratic"
16:36 <@wilpig> can anyone verify if this is the current vp's email?  sophrinix@gmail.com
16:36 <@Corydon76-home> I didn't realize that was a flaw.  I consider it an advantage that no leader can entirely buck the membership
16:36 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, that looks right.
16:36 <@Bahhumbug> Lemme confirm.
16:37 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.
16:37 <@rattle> It cuts both ways.
16:39 <@Corydon76-home> rattle: I prefer the idea that if a leader wants to go in a certain other direction, he needs to have that discussion and convince the group at large.
16:40 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: I think you'd like this one: http://i.imgur.com/LahbbWJ.png
16:40 <@Corydon76-home> Heh.
16:42 <@Dagmar> As to the autojoin thing either she just doesn't care enough to edit the client settings (likely consider she's using Pidgin) or she's checking to see if there's an auto-bk or ban in place
16:42 <@rattle> While in principal, that's obviously correct..  We see how well the current executive/board structure of Nash2600 has worked out..
16:42 <@wilpig> my guess is the former.
16:43 <@rattle> You should be electing the board, and trusting the board to make decisions about who is in what role.
16:43 <@klixa> Dagmar: dont forget option 3, hoping someone will pm her and ask her stuff/give her attention
16:43 <@wilpig> rattle: the current board is there just for if the current administration goes completely off the rails
16:43 <@rattle> You're instead electing the executives..  That typically doesn't work, and that's why there are _no_ serious organizations that operate like that.
16:43 <@SuMo_D> So... I've got this weird thing today, where I have this really high fever, but I feel fine otherwise
16:44 <@SuMo_D> have any of you guys had that before?
16:44 <@klixa> SuMo_D: yeah...but it tends to mean i wont feel fine later
16:44 <@SuMo_D> blare
16:44 <@SuMo_D> blarg
16:44 <@wilpig> the current officers just have one fail in place that is mucking up the works because he chose to not participate earlier to find out how the organization works
16:44 <@oddball> SuMo_D: I'll trade ya.  I was up 'till 5am this morning being violently sick.
16:45 <@Dagmar> We could also execute the electives.
16:45 <@Dagmar> It certainly sounds like more fun.
16:45 <@oddball> Good news is that I probably lost 5-10lbs. :/
16:45 <@rattle> wilpig: Yeah, that's the problem.  You should be electing people whom you believe understand the spirit of the organization at heart, even if their not the folks you think should be (or are able to) run the conference.  They then vote on who takes roles and whatnot.  That's a cornerstone of corporate governance, and it works.
16:45 <@klixa> oddball: bad news is you will gain it back. lol
16:45  * Dagmar begins making a suit of bushes.
16:45 <@wilpig> rattle: there was one person that ran for the office, hence the failure
16:45 <@SuMo_D> that sucks..
16:46 <@Corydon76-home> rattle: it's only done that way because typically stockholder rolls are far too great to effectively manage the company by directly electing officers
16:46 <@rattle> The only situation I can think of where directly electing officers makes sense is government.
16:48 <@Corydon76-home> rattle: I'd still like to hear of concrete examples of why directly electing officers is a bad idea
16:48 <@Corydon76-home> So far, your argument is, "Nobody else does it."
16:49 <@Corydon76-home> Which is a fine argument if you want us to be like everybody else, but isn't otherwise convincing.
16:49 <@rattle> For one, you can't remove or appoint someone to a role outside your voting cycle.
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16:50 <@Corydon76-home> This is true.  So far, that hasn't been a problem
16:51 <@wilpig> considering the officers are strictly for the business roles and nothing directly with the con, it really shouldn't be an issue
16:56 <@wilpig> hrmm they have zombies on here of the peoplefrom the previous season, but I don't see virgil
16:57 <@Corydon76-home> KotN?
16:57 <@wilpig> yes
16:58 <@rattle> Another upside of having a board for nash2600 would be to facilitate people being able to step back from official duties but still hold power and influence in the organization.  Officers are held accountable to the board, and the board as oversight into things like finances..  Lots of room to facilitate better overall governance for board members.
16:59 <@rattle> You could go European style and call it the Board of Governors.  Heh.
16:59 <@Corydon76-home> rattle: we have a hard enough time getting active officers.  You want us to get active officers AND an active board?
16:59 <@Dagmar> HIGH COUNCIL OF DOOMLORDS
16:59 <@rattle> A big part of the board/officer thing has to do with dealing with getting money.
16:59 <@Dagmar> ...or perhaps Shadow Council.
17:00 <@Dagmar> Esoteric Order of the Folded Chair.
17:00 <@rattle> The board isn't that active.  And most of your active officers would probably sit on the board.
17:01 <@Corydon76-home> rattle: In which case, the board is simply the officers, which defeats the point of oversight.
17:01 <@rattle> I think it's odd that someone who has been saying they want to step down from an active role but still have direct influence is against the idea of having a board..
17:02 <@rattle> Your situation is exactly one of the ones that governance structure exists to deal with.
17:02 <@Corydon76-home> rattle: I am forced to be an officer because there's nobody else who wants it and is qualified to take on the role
17:02 <@Bahhumbug> You could just resign.  I know you won't, but you can.
17:03 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: and leave the organization in a lurch?  No way.
17:03 <@Bahhumbug> Like I said, I know you won't.
17:03 <@NotLarry> I'll take it if you want out.
17:04 <@NotLarry> I have a home now, and a job.  And I am back on my schedule so I could actually show up to 2600 meetings now:)
17:04 <@Corydon76-home> That may be an option
17:05 <@NotLarry> Midnight to noon kept me from making the last two or three meetings.  Kept me from most everything
17:05 <@wilpig> noon to midnight you'll be working for half the meetings of the year too
17:05 <@NotLarry> yeah, but  I am down the street and can take off work to go.
17:06 <@NotLarry> fucking midnight to noon I had trouble getting up in the middle of my night to go to a meeting:)
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17:06 <@NotLarry> I expect my coworker to be around for another year
17:06 <@wilpig> heh
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17:07 <@wilpig> alright, i'm getting a shower and gonna go get litter and maybe dinner
17:07 <@NotLarry> Unless he suddenly goes on a trip and I have to start watching his house, and his guns, and his bikes...
17:07 <@NotLarry> Which could happen any moment
17:14 <@rattle> I wish I could just skip to next week.  I'd rather be in San Francisco right now.
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17:17 <@Dagmar> Wouldn't we all
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17:55 <@Dagmar> It seems that in the absence of the threat of ice, Nashville's drivers have resumed their previous "complete assholes" behaviour
17:56 <@Dagmar> It's like the fuckin' Spring Honking Festival outside the window here because of the combination of rain and impatient assholes.
17:56 <@Dagmar> ...and it has been so for the last half hour.
17:57 <@Bahhumbug> Does the window open?
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17:57 <@Dagmar> nope
17:58 <@Dagmar> You know what happens when you have a seven-story office building with windows that eopn.
17:58 <@Dagmar> er open
17:58 <@Bahhumbug> Stuff mysteriously gets thrown down on people?
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18:01 <@Dagmar> You need a lot of mulch or topiary that is easily rinsed off
18:01 <@Dagmar> People always ignore weird stains on a sidewalk
18:23 <@NotLarry> Well, I have to say that many times the police refuse to ignore such weird stains on sidewalks.  Not from experience mind you, I've just heard...
18:24 <@Dagmar> They don't ignore them when they're fresh.
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18:44 <@NotLarry> Does the website for torrentleach work for anyone?
18:48 < aestetix_> penis
18:49 < RangerZ2> NotLarry: whats the url?
18:49 < RangerZ2> b/c I don't use that site
18:55 < aestetix_> RangerZ2: http://i.imgur.com/zXYnWeC.jpg
18:55 < RangerZ2> yeah...
19:23 < aestetix_> ok
19:23 < aestetix_> fuck
19:23 <@SuMo_D> ?
19:28 < aestetix_> ok
19:28 < aestetix_> can modern phones store contact info and SMS messages on your sd card?
19:29 < aestetix_> The one I have cant, looking for a new phone
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19:45 <@wilpig> aestetix_: some can, some can't
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20:05 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: woot, i get my replacement parrot drone parts tomorrow
20:06 <@Dagmar> Cool
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20:06 < aestetix_> hmm
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20:22 < aestetix_> aaand yet another round of netflix no, piratebay yes
20:23 <@brimstone> you must be on comcast
20:24 < aestetix_> why?
20:24 < aestetix_> does netflix filter based on carrier?
20:25 <@brimstone> other way around
20:25 <@brimstone> https://s3itchy.s3.amazonaws.com/tweetbot%2F1weLfF.png
20:25 < aestetix_> what the fuck
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20:29 <@brimstone> it's ok, comcast now reaches 70% of eligible consumers
20:29 <@brimstone> in the nation
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20:36 < RangerZ2> brimstone: who made that graph?
20:38 < RangerZ2> b/c I'm actually writing some congressman I know, and I've been looking for a good graph like that
20:40 <@brimstone> RangerZ2: err, some guy, let me look
20:42 <@brimstone> RangerZ2: https://twitter.com/obfuscurity/status/434781845402951680
20:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / obfuscurity: Need more proof that Comcast ... (at twitter.com)
20:47 < RangerZ2> thanks
20:48 < RangerZ2> been going around and collecting links for a while
20:48 < RangerZ2> debating on 'what'/'when' to form it
20:48 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: You're just now finding out about what Time-Warner, Comcast, and AT&T have been up to, I take it?
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21:19 <@wilpig> good lord.  remind me next time I throw out a random ass version query to do it from another account
21:20 < aestetix_> do cats do anything besides sleep
21:20 <@wilpig> yes
21:20 <@wilpig> they eat and poop
21:21 <@wilpig> everyone with me now /ctcp anarchival finger
21:21 < aestetix_> done
21:23 <@wilpig> ugh.  it's still flapping its virtual gums at me
21:24 < aestetix_> good god
21:24 < aestetix_> http://www.edmtunes.com/2014/02/tomorrowland-14-sells-out-360000-tickets-in-under-an-hour/
21:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: Tomorrowland 2014 Sells Out in Under an Hour - EDMTunes (at www.edmtunes.com)
21:25 <@brimstone> pfft, "hour"
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21:26 <@wilpig> heh
21:28 <@wilpig> I should try and be productive but just don't wanna
22:03 <@eryc> make me a cupcake
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22:19 < aestetix_> vagina
22:21 <@klixa> aestetix_: we're gonna be neighbors
22:21 <@klixa> i have already pre-filed my restraining order against you
22:24 < aestetix_> what?
22:24 < aestetix_> how is that happening?
22:24 <@klixa> im going to the bay?
22:24 <@klixa> in a car?
22:24 <@klixa> what do you mean how is that happening....
22:24 < aestetix_> lol
22:24 < aestetix_> I mean
22:24 < aestetix_> where are you going to
22:25 < aestetix_> moving to oakland?
22:25 <@klixa> um prolly gonna be in berkley at first...then in a month fremont... (thats where they sent us last year anyway)
22:26 < aestetix_> fun!
22:26 < aestetix_> when are you coming here
22:26 < aestetix_> you can join the anti-dac protests
22:26 <@klixa> im leaving here tomorrow... takes like 3 days to get there
22:26 < aestetix_> oh wow
22:26 <@klixa> woo hoo
22:27 <@klixa> and drink some peet's
22:27 <@klixa> :D
22:27 < aestetix_> haha
22:27 < aestetix_> http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/029/8/3/emacs_user_at_work_by_earlcolour-d38aj2x.jpg
22:28 <@klixa> the net where i am is super fucked up
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