--- Log opened Mon Feb 10 00:00:06 2014
00:05 < RangerZ2> anyone know a good XMPP bot?
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00:18 < aestetix> I wonder how blind people wipe their ass
00:18 < RangerZ2> wilpig's hadoken is over 9000
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00:27 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I'm just going to go ahead and say that turning the encounter level up to 200% is about the only way to keep up with the difficulty level
00:27 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: yeah, i did that at the very start
00:27 < RangerZ2> b/c i figured if... _if_ I got OP, that I could just reduce it later on
00:27 < RangerZ2> haven't been able to really
00:28 <@Dagmar> Theif's Steal ability is my favorite thing so far.  :)
00:28 < RangerZ2> yeah, I just got thief actually
00:28 <@Dagmar> I haven't even seen a way to combine stuff yet, but I've got LOTS OF IT
00:28 <@Dagmar> The Angel Bow is OP.
00:28 < RangerZ2> had a big assignment due sat. at midnight :/
00:29 < RangerZ2> spent 2 hours on skype
00:29 < aestetix> Your assignment invovled skype?
00:29 < RangerZ2> 3* .... trying to figure out omnet++
00:29 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure but it does look like some of hte characters are more suited to certain jobs than others due to their stats
00:29 < RangerZ2> omnet++ is a network simulator, which is great... except its non-obvious how to do the things he asks for
00:30 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: yeah, I noticed that in the demo, b/c I had picked the _complete_ wrong jobs for every person, b/c I thought they were all girls at first
00:30 <@Dagmar> *snicker*
00:30 <@Dagmar> Some of them definitely look it
00:30 <@Dagmar> ...but I've no idea why you thought gender would impact skillset
00:31 < RangerZ2> the male/female str/int balance
00:31 <@Dagmar> I've got Ringabel as a Theif at the moment because he seems to have the highest AGI/DEX with it
00:31 < RangerZ2> which holds true
00:31 < RangerZ2> monk bare handed is OP
00:31 <@Dagmar> I *think* I'm about to turn the wind back on
00:32 < RangerZ2> i have tiz as that, and now he's leveling thief, b/c I'm expecting some nice synergy between those
00:32 <@Dagmar> Monk is better with the Bastet Claws.
00:32 <@Dagmar> ...and the Angel Bow does even more damage
00:32 <@Dagmar> *IF* Agnes gets to cast a spell, it's just about a miracle
00:33 <@Dagmar> I just wish I could use Treat out of combat
00:33 < RangerZ2> ohh I equipped her with the 'prevents silence' item
00:33 < RangerZ2> think a bangle or something
00:34 <@Dagmar> Absolutely
00:35 <@Dagmar> I got her a hat and robes that enhance lightning as well.  :)
00:37 <@Bahhumbug> What game is this that you're discussing?
00:37 <@Dagmar> Bravely Default
00:37 <@Dagmar> The name is stupid but it plays like a Final Fantasy
00:38 <@Bahhumbug> Steam?
00:38 <@Dagmar> Nintendo 3DS
00:38 <@Bahhumbug> Ahh.
00:38 <@Bahhumbug> Thanks :)
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00:39 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: sadly, some of the best games in a while have come out on it
00:39 < RangerZ> and _only_ on it
00:40 <@Dagmar> Ringabel as a theif has one underiable advantage.
00:40 <@Dagmar> He _always_ moves first... so he can steal shit before it gets roflstomped.
00:40 <@Dagmar> er undniable
00:40 <@Dagmar> fuck it
00:41 <@Dagmar> I hate it when I'm trying to use Identify on some mob and before the character I set to do it can, Tiz rushes in and beats everything into pudding.
00:46 <@Dagmar> I begin to think Ringabel is over-acting.
00:46 <@Dagmar> He is _way_ too into the ladies' wardrobe
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01:10 < aestetix> https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/02/10/the-nsas-secret-role/
01:10 < RangerZ> Dagmar: merchant: lvl 2 gets salesman, force the enemy to buy your potions at 2.4x the price, lol
01:11 < RangerZ> aestetix: i was going to make a 'tl;dr' joke
01:11 < RangerZ> but then i kept scrolling... and was like.. that might not be a joke
01:12 <@NotLarry> wilpig: ping
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03:03 < aestetix> fuck level 125 is hard
03:10 <@Corydon76-home> What is this game called 'fuck' and why does it have so many levels?
03:12 < aestetix> Because there's a lot of candy to crush
03:15 <@Corydon76-home> If you're using candy to find someone to fuck, you're probably going to be getting the wrong demographic
03:16 < aestetix> lol
03:28 <@NotLarry> Says who/
03:28 <@NotLarry> who?
03:28 <@NotLarry> fucking typing lessons are not working.
03:30 < aestetix> NotLarry: you should listen to what Mavis Beacon says instead of staring at her tits
03:33 < RangerZ> but mavis has nice T&A
03:34 < RangerZ> Corydon76-home: nah, thats the demo he wants
03:38 <@NotLarry> ikr
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03:53 < RangerZ> he even hired a marketing firm, to make sure... he was talking about it the other night, it was kinda impressive how far he'd go to target that demo.
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07:31 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:39 <@wilpig> Dolemite: I don't see it as chicken little as much as 'if I can use this an excuse to not do anything, then it isn't my fault'
08:41 <@Dolemite> wilpig: I see both.
08:41 <@wilpig> and I still say this has a great deal to do with when he shoudl have been learning on what it takes to put on the modern phreaknic last year, but he was MIA.
08:42 <@wilpig> so now when the time has come to show action it's dig for an excuse.
08:47 <@Dolemite> Yes, we can only tolerate so much, but we have to tolerate some.  It's tough seeing others come in and make the mistakes we've already learned from, but it's time to see if the other elected officers will keep things moving and in check - it's not just on one person.
08:50 <@wilpig> From my standpoint it is just one person.  One of the other officers has never been involved with the planning before and has no choice but to ride along,  one officer is just wanting nothing to do with it,  the last just wants everyone to hug and will agree with sticking forks in light sockets if you press on him a little.
08:55 <@wilpig> on another note.  looks like I need to go buy some parts for the ranger.  check engine light came on this morning.
08:56 <@wilpig> http://www.obdii.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002192.html
08:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: How to fix code P1443 for a 1997 Ford Ranger - OBDII (at www.obdii.com)
08:56 <@wilpig> but at least the fix appears to be simple
09:01 <@wilpig> Dolemite: http://www.hbo.com/jamie-private-school-girl#/
09:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ja'mie: Private School Girl | The Official Website for the HBO Series (at www.hbo.com)
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09:25 <@Dolemite> I am going to have to bit the bullet soon and take the Escape in for a pricey repair - I have an oil leak that is getting more and more prevalent.  I'm hoping it's the oil pan gasket, but can't get under it to see for sure, but if it's deeper into the engine...    bend over.
09:27 <@wilpig> stupid Dagmar and RangerZ2, this game is a major time sink.
09:28 <@wilpig> ahhhhh fuck a duck!  I left both pair of headphones at home!
09:38 <@Dagmar> lol
09:39 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: Dude, spread newspapers on the floor of your garage or whatever
09:40 <@Dagmar> Hmm... forks in light sockets you say
09:40 <@Dagmar> Sounds like an interesting pan
09:40 <@Dagmar> I nominate anarchival as the first tester.
09:41 <@rattle> ~\o I came in like a wrecking ball!! ~\o
09:41  * Dagmar douses rattle in white kersosene
09:42 <@rattle> ~\o Hurts so good!! ~\o
09:47  * Catonic carelessly leaves matches, lighters, flints and strikers about
09:48  * brimstone ignites and runs around
09:48  * Catonic wonders where NotLarry's running scissors are...
09:50  * Catonic ponders replacing all instances of megabytes and gigabytes with cenobytes
09:50 <@Catonic> welp, time for drugs.
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09:55 <@wilpig> alright.  I have a stupid problem that needs an overengineered fix.  dagmar, you're up.
09:55 <@wilpig> alias rsyncmove='rsync --partial --progress --append --rsh=ssh -r -h --remove-sent-files'   <-- make that wrap in screen each time I issue it
09:55 <@wilpig> and then it needs to clear the screen session when it's done
09:55 <@Dagmar> --protect files
09:55 <@Dagmar> er with a daash in there
09:56 <@Dagmar> rsync is completely unsafe for use with ssh without --protect-files
09:57 <@brimstone> --protect-args ?
09:57 <@Dagmar> ...er yes
09:57 <@Dagmar> Fuck I need some caffiene
09:57 < Neoteric> i was gonna say wtf is protect-files ?
09:57 <@Dagmar> Why the fuck are you using screen for that anyway
09:57 <@Dagmar> Neoteric: it's what comes out of my brain on less than 100mg of caffiene
09:58 <@wilpig> cause of the stupid wifi here.  breaking my fucking ssh session so horribly that it would be nice if the process would keep running in a screen session after my connection goes brain dead
09:58 <@Dagmar> Until 11am or I can get some caffiene in me, just think of my brain as a giant raisin
09:58 <@wilpig> instead of me having to pick it back up later.
09:58 <@Dagmar> Whhy aren'tcha using nohup then
09:58 <@wilpig> it's all local transfers and it is purely just an annoyance
09:58 <@rattle> & ?
09:58 <@Dagmar> Meh one moment... Lemme look up wtf switch it is.  -X maybe
09:58 <@Dagmar> rattle: logout tends to murder the whole session
09:58 <@wilpig> rattle: no & cause that would send it to the background.
09:59 <@wilpig> that would negate the whole showing hte progress part
09:59 <@rattle> >/log ?
10:00 <@rattle> Logout shouldn't kill a backgrounded process.  You can just chain to a tail -f, so that's the only process that dies with your session.
10:00 <@rattle> Screen seems kinda heavy for that use case.
10:01 <@wilpig> it is overkill for it, but every once in a while I might move a TB around locally
10:02 <@Dagmar> rattle: It tends to send some signal to everything in that login session
10:02 <@Dagmar> I say "some signal" because I can't remember if it's sigterm or sigint
10:02 <@rattle> Yeah, so background it, output to a log file..  That way you can just ctrl-c out of the log if you don't care to follow it.
10:02 <@Dagmar> backgrounding doesn't get you a new session id
10:02 < Neoteric> Dagmar: sigint
10:02 <@Dagmar> Neoteric: Danke
10:03 <@Dagmar> rattle: See also setsid, IIRC
10:04 <@rattle> disown ?
10:04 <@Dagmar> That could probably do it as well.
10:04 <@Dagmar> Definitely going to get thaht caffiene now
10:05 <@Dagmar> I *think* he might be able to do it with just sticking the word `screen` in front of the command
10:06 <@rattle> Or nohup ?
10:06 <@Dagmar> Probabbly an easier fucking route would be to just put somthing really fancy in .bash_profile that double-checks to see if we're a) an interactive shell and b) not presently within screen and then goes and starts up freakin' screen
10:07 <@Bahhumbug> nohup, handled redircting stdout and stderr as well.  Over-engineering this is just silly.
10:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah but Wilbur wants to be able to see the progress for some silly reason.  ;)
10:08 <@Bahhumbug> Meh.
10:08 <@Dolemite> Every time you over engineer a script, Wilpig, a baby porcupine dies.
10:13 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: where are you on plotting SMGeeknic 3?
10:13 <@Dolemite> I'm not
10:14 <@Dolemite> I have to run to a meeting right now - but basically the only weekend possible around the time we did the first two is a weekend I'll be out of town
10:15 <@Corydon76-home> Ah
10:15 <@Dolemite> So it either has to shift to another time of year, or you guys will have to do it without me.  If I'm not there, there's no reason for me to be planning it.
10:15 <@Dolemite> We can talk later if you want.  I'd love to get together, but April/May are out for me.
10:15 <@Corydon76-home> Okay
10:18 <@wilpig> Dolemite: maybe I don't like porcupines
10:23 <@Dagmar> "In each of these indoor arenas, underfloor cooling systems are installed so that the ice stays frozen above it using propylene glycol, which doesn't freeze until temperatures reach 8.6 F (-13 C). "
10:23 <@Dagmar> lol
10:23 <@Dagmar> Someone was clearly impressed by the big words
10:24 <@Dagmar> propylene glycol == stuff used in big-ass air-conditioning systems just about everywhere
10:26 <@wilpig> stinky green goo
10:26 <@Dagmar> By the way, if anyone ever finds out where Badoo Media, Inc is... we need to make a road trip.
10:26 <@Dagmar> They're the people behind iLivid
10:27 <@Dagmar> They need hospitalization.
10:27 <@Dagmar> It's time.
10:27 <@wilpig> that's a smell that almost as distict as the magic smoke
10:29 <@Dagmar> lol http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2014/02/10/why-mtgox-is-full-of-shit/
10:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: Why Mt. Gox is full of shit - joepie91's Ramblings (at cryto.net)
10:30 <@wilpig> it's like someone's been watching me.  http://explosm.net/comics/3459/
10:30 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cyanide & Happiness #3459 - Explosm.net (at explosm.net)
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10:55  * benthemeek makes careful notes on the rsync command
10:55 <@wilpig> https://twitter.com/Wilpig/status/432905660477759488
10:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / Wilpig: Thats a bag full of nope. ... (at twitter.com)
10:56 <@benthemeek> I just checked my production script and I am not using that -s (protect-args)
10:56 <@wilpig> there you go, Dagmar and RangerZ1.
10:56 <@wilpig> lvl99 in my town.
10:56 <@benthemeek> We have somethign else that looks for bad names, but I think I should go ahead and add that too
10:56 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: So now create a file named ";`rm -rf /.*`;" for luls
10:57 <@benthemeek> Dagmar: +1
10:57 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Well shit.  Let us know what happens when it's time runs out
10:58 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: What originally brought this to my attention was that some of ITS's servers are using an ssh-over-rsync thing for replication, and replication was mysteriously failing after a certain point.
10:58 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: ...that point being "Immediately following the filename with '&' in it."
11:00 <@klixa> isnt propylene glycol in dr pepper...
11:01 <@Dagmar> *eyeroll* no.
11:01 <@klixa> lol i know...but there is something similar in it
11:01 <@Dagmar> There's nothing fancy or esoteric about the stuff.
11:01 <@Dagmar> It's just a reasonably inert substance what has a useful phase change point and is cheap
11:02 <@klixa> polyethaline glycol i think..../me googles....but im sure thsats it cause i hadthis goth friend who drank it cause it had the same chemical embalming fluid has
11:02 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: just because two chemicals sound alike in pronunciation doesn't mean they have anything to do with one another
11:02 <@Dagmar> klixa: A shame it wasn't fatal
11:02 <@klixa> it was a joke, damn :P
11:02 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cef4n981ayl4rl7/2014-02-10%2011.00.59.jpg <-- btw there is my current status
11:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2014-02-10 11.00.59.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
11:03 <@klixa> everyone always thinks im stupid instead if funny... :/
11:03 <@Corydon76-home> Work on your timing
11:03 <@Dagmar> klixa: That one was just weird.
11:03 <@Dagmar> PEG is a laxative.
11:03 <@klixa> i havent had coffe yet
11:03 <@Dagmar> It is also not an ingredient in embaling fluid.
11:04 <@klixa> the emblming fluid is what he said
11:04 <@Corydon76-home> Water is the common ingredient in both
11:04 <@wilpig> water is the common ingredient in my pee too
11:04  * wilpig pees in the air
11:05 <@wilpig> wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
11:05 <@klixa> water ..lol
11:05 <@klixa> bleh screaming baby and need coffee....later
11:05 <@Corydon76-home> Remember the bullshit about the ingredient in Subway bread that's also used in yoga mats?
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11:06 <@Dagmar> Nevermind that it's actually normal bread
11:06 <@Dagmar> Also, everyone on Comcast, change your master account password.
11:06 <@Corydon76-home> I'm using a non-valuable password for that already
11:07 <@Dagmar> Change it.
11:07 <@wilpig> comcast get comprimised again?
11:07 <@Dagmar> It can safely be assumed to have been compromised, yes.
11:07 <@rattle> Yes, change it.
11:07 <@Corydon76-home> Am I going to have to think up another bullshit password for sites that I assume are already compromised?
11:07 <@Dagmar> ...which means someone can login as you and decide you don't really need cable internets anymore.  For luls
11:07 <@wilpig> Corydon76-home: lastpass -> autogenerate.  done.
11:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah I use Keepass's generator
11:08 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: Uh, you can't turn off any services on Comcast's webpages
11:08 <@Corydon76-home> Believe me, I've tried
11:08 <@Dagmar> Try harder.
11:08 <@Corydon76-home> You can _upgrade_, but downgrading or discontinuing services requires a phone call.
11:08 <@Dagmar> I came kinda close to switching over to buisness services last weekend using their website
11:09  * wilpig is away:  back in a few running down to the computer room to grab some ram
11:09 <@Dagmar> You can also readily create email accounts for sending threatening emails to the white house with
11:09 <@Dagmar> ...for great luls of course.
11:10 <@Corydon76-home> Doesn't Comcast embed the X-OriginatingIP header?
11:10 <@Dagmar> Shoudln't you be practicing saying that to the police?
11:10 <@Dagmar> _Password is compromised_.
11:11 <@Dagmar> If it didn't control anything of merit, they'd just validate your connection by the IP address.
11:11 <@Dagmar> This means fucking change it or don't.
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11:19 <@NotLarry> SMGeeknic3 needs to be at current river
11:20 <@wilpig> lvl20 boss in the village.  WTF?!  it was just weak to fire then fire healed it
11:20 <@Dagmar> wilpig: It used that skill thing
11:20 <@wilpig> oh fuck a duck.  so it was just weak to water and then same thing
11:20 <@Dagmar> That was what made me back off on attacking Beelzebub
11:20 <@Dagmar> Watch the messages
11:20 <@wilpig> you have to rotate your damned attacks on it
11:21 <@Dagmar> I think it's called 'Abide' or something, can't remember for sure
11:21 <@Dagmar> What it amounts to is *anything* you do to it while that ability is running, heals it
11:21 <@wilpig> it looked like it changed specialties mid attack
11:21 <@Dagmar> I had to go look up what the deal was
11:21 <@NotLarry> Time for my morning league of coffee. bb in an hour
11:22 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: What's with the brony shit
11:24 <@Dagmar> Heh.  Someone else in 3401 has a Nintendo DS and Bravely Default
11:25 <@Dagmar> I just popped open my bag and was like "Wait, Nathan doesn't come into the office on Mondays"
11:26 <@NotLarry> Thought it would be funny:)
11:27 <@NotLarry> Where are you seeing brony shit?
11:28 <@Dagmar> Lopeppeppy: I b'leeve it was you asking about the systemd fail last week.  http://ewontfix.com/14/  More details
11:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: EWONTFIX - Broken by design: systemd (at ewontfix.com)
11:28 <@Dagmar> derp
11:29 <@NotLarry> Went out and bought some black slacks, a black belt, a white shirt and a black tie.
11:29 <@NotLarry> That aught to freak them out in SF
11:30 <@wilpig> NotLarry: did you just become a witness?  do you have your buddy?  you can't travel alone
11:30 <@NotLarry> If it is anyhing like the last flight I don't have to worry bout being alone by he end of it.
11:30 <@Dagmar> If you travel alone you might fall prey to chronic masturbation
11:32 <@NotLarry> I think that that is a misnomer
11:34 <@Dagmar> perpetual and uncontrollable masturbation?
11:37 <@wilpig> damnit!  I jsut figured it out and it crashed.  that's not normal
11:38 <@wilpig> so that guy will only take damage from fire -> water -> lightning -> repeat
11:38 <@wilpig> in that order
11:38 <@wilpig> even life steal was healing him
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11:54 <@wilpig> There is just something neat about getting in a box of 25 DIMMs
12:00 <@Mirage_> wilpig: you used to work for a retail place building machines didn't you?
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12:01 <@wilpig> kinda, but i didn't build machines
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12:04 <@Mirage> When I started out we would spec out 10-50 machines for customers, order all the stuff, build, bench test, then go install.  It was pretty crazy getting in parts to build that many machines all in one shot.
12:04 <@Mirage> Of course back then all the machines were using either 36-ping or 72-pin SIMMS in banks of 2 or 4.
12:07 <@Corydon76-home> Or 8
12:08 <@wilpig> this was a box of 25x 8GB dimms.  so pretty....
12:08 <@wilpig> my precious...
12:09 <@Corydon76-home> I remember installing memory in the form of chips inserted into sockets, 8 at a time
12:09 <@Dagmar> Taphammer time!
12:09 <@Corydon76-home> It was hell making sure you didn't bend any of the pins out of whack
12:09 <@wilpig> okay grandpa
12:10 <@wilpig> now tell us the one about walking to school in the snow, uphill, bothways
12:10 <@Dagmar> Much easier when your hands don't shake
12:10 <@Mirage> yeah, the XT's had those..and like my old Apple IIe.  Onboard cache on most of the 486 and early pentiums were IC memory as well.
12:10 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: I still have a chip extractor somewhere around here, for those times when one of them went bad
12:10 <@Dagmar> Yeah I never had a problem upgrading people's cache memory
12:10 <@Dagmar> lol I used a screwdriver to extract them
12:11 <@wilpig> I have one too.  :-/
12:11 <@Dagmar> You can always restraighten the pins
12:11 <@Corydon76-home> Until they break off
12:11 <@Dagmar> ...but if you used an eyeglass screwdriver you could generally just slide it right under there and lift
12:11 <@Mirage> I think I still have 3 diff sizes of extractors.
12:12 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Never had to add and remove the stuff dozends of times repeatedly.
12:12 <@Mirage> Dagmar: that works fine until someone accidentally cracks chip
12:12 <@Dagmar> Defective chipes are defective
12:12 <@Corydon76-home> It was fun one time trying to order replacement chips for a sound card, and the guy told me the minimum order quantity was something like 100
12:13 <@Dagmar> Hell they're sturdy enough to handle it.  SOmeone would have had to really manhandle a chip to break it
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12:13 <@Corydon76-home> I got the replacement chips for free that time, because he "sampled" the chips out to me
12:13 <@Mirage> When the trident video cards came out with those little sockets for the memory we thought it was the greatest thing ever.
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12:14 <@Mirage> I don't remember what those sockets were called.  \
12:15 <@Corydon76-home> You don't just call them memory sockets?
12:15 <@Corydon76-home> Or IC sockets?
12:15 <@Mirage> They looked like this: http://www.jameco.com/1/1/5396-850-28smt-t-plcc-ic-socket-smt-28-pin.html
12:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: 850-28SMT-T: Plcc IC Socket SMT 28 Pin: Jameco Valuepro (at www.jameco.com)
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12:16 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, the surface mounts
12:16 <@Dagmar> Oh PLCCs?  Yes.  Loved them
12:17 <@Corydon76-home> Thanks for the link with a popunder ad
12:18 <@Mirage> I didn't get a pop-up/under
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12:19 < RangerZ> me neither
12:19 < RangerZ> but no-script + adblock will do that
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12:20 <@Mirage> I just opened it in firefox on my linux desktop.  no issue
12:20 <@Corydon76-home> Ever since I started running ads on websites, I had to turn off adblock, or I couldn't verify that the ads were showing up correctly
12:21 <@Corydon76-home> and it's a little hypocritical to run ad blocking software when you're depending upon ads for revenue
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12:23 -!- Mirage changed the topic of #se2600 to: 2600 Meeting was 2/7...if you missed it, better luck next month.
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12:24 < RangerZ> i don't agree, but we've had this convo, lol
12:24 < RangerZ> ads = nice way to get money from people stupid enough to not run adblock
12:26 < RangerZ> I'm not morally against ads, I just think that they should be non-intrusive. (which is why i allow google text ads. but viewing the internet with ads and without is a _major_ difference :/ sadly... b/c of how bad most ads are
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12:28 <@Bahhumbug> I think I'll just leave this here...
12:28 <@Bahhumbug> http://ewontfix.com/14/
12:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: EWONTFIX - Broken by design: systemd (at ewontfix.com)
12:31 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: Posted to my G+ hours ago.  WITH GREAT GLEE
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12:32 <@klixak> ok, if a guy has a job that moves him about once a month...and he says you can come stay with him but that when he goes to the next location you cant come cause he has too much stuff and your baby wint fit in his car...whats that mean?
12:32 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I think AdBlock should fork, and call the fork 'CrimeBlock' and specifically target anyone using misleading ads.  Like say, iLivid and practically everyone who advertises on adf.ly
12:33 <@opticron> klixak, it means you need to be prepared to move out in the short term?
12:33 <@klixak> opticron: um...lol
12:33 <@Dagmar> opticron++
12:33 <@klixak> i meant more like *why* would someone say that,....hahah
12:33 <@opticron> :)
12:34 <@klixak> i opted not to go, cayse fuck that
12:34 <@Dagmar> it's because they've misplaced their testicles
12:34 <@klixak> but... i was just thinking about it
12:34 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah.  I don't use g+ :)
12:34 <@Corydon76-home> klixak: I love how you think men have a common way of speaking in code.
12:35 <@opticron> klixak, assuming you have your own vehicle to move with, that doesn't make a lot of sense unless he wants to limit the relationship to a short trial run
12:35 <@klixak> Corydon76-home: i dont...i figured several ideas might be mentioned
12:35 <@Corydon76-home> Most of the time, when a guy says something, he literally means exactly what he just said.
12:35 <@opticron> Corydon76-home++
12:35 < RangerZ> klixak: you're kidding about that question, right?
12:35 <@klixak> RangerZ: no
12:35 <@Dagmar> Generally we're just not that deep.
12:35 < RangerZ> that means you don't go with him
12:36 < RangerZ> he wasn't playing verbal tapdance
12:36 <@Dagmar> What he is saying is that he likes nookie, but doesn't like having to take care of children.
12:36 < RangerZ> he means "you can't come with me b/c i won't have room in my car", "but you can come stay this month before I move, if you need"
12:36 < RangerZ> ^ that too
12:37 <@Dagmar> Doesn't really require a lot of in-depth analysis
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12:38 <@klixak> well...as a female i have to nitpick every detail tho :|
12:38 < RangerZ> no
12:38 < RangerZ> you _think_ you do
12:38 < RangerZ> lol
12:39 <@Dagmar> Public Service Announcement: When you ask a guy what he's thinking about, and he says "Nothing", he is telling the truth.  Nothing but bars and tone in there.
12:39 <@klixak> i have some women leaning on the side of him just being retarded and not knowing how to pack...but... women
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12:39 < RangerZ> but if you take most things guys say as 'literal' you'll be better off, guys are NOT women, who layer meanings
12:40 < RangerZ> klixa: all of that MIGHT be true, but it doesn't mean anything
12:40 <@Corydon76-home> Unless they are very feminine men
12:40 <@klixa> well...im used to alphas...alphas will make the baby fit in the car or say i dont want a baby around me
12:40 < RangerZ> or grew up around only women and lawyers
12:40 <@Corydon76-home> and you can treat those as if they were women
12:41 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: hes a fem beta ex gith faggy kinda guy and used to be bi
12:41 <@klixa> goth*
12:42 <@Corydon76-home> It means he's got a sex party lined up with booze and drugs
12:42 <@klixa> haha
12:42 <@Dagmar> ...or more likely that the presence of baby might put a damper on his orgy plans.
12:43 <@Corydon76-home> Yep
12:43 <@Corydon76-home> along with a puritannical mother
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12:43 < RangerZ> though he 'might' be looking to see if he can cnquer that
12:43 <@Mirage> I read "fem beta ex gith faggy kinda guy and used to be bi
12:43 <@Mirage> and my mind said "Hugme!"
12:44 <@klixa> lol
12:44 < RangerZ> Mirage: nice
12:44 <@SuMo_D> hope you guys are staying safe up there
12:45 <@Corydon76-home> Up where?
12:45 <@klixa> heh here he is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPk9UDH_2-I the singer
12:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: Exploding Headcheese - Christian Morality - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:45 <@Mirage> RangerZ: Do you know who Hugme is?
12:45 <@klixa> like 30 years ago
12:45 <@SuMo_D> we're getting ready for impending doom with the ice and snow
12:45 <@SuMo_D> Nashville up there
12:45 <@Dagmar> Soo... you're not in Vegas at the moment I take it?
12:45 <@Corydon76-home> This is about the 5th time we were supposed to get snow.... nothing...
12:46 < RangerZ> klixa: just plan on going to NJ
12:46 < RangerZ> piggy would make room for you ;)
12:46 <@klixa> dude, i would go if that were true
12:46 <@klixa> lol
12:46 <@SuMo_D> Dagmar ? - I'm from Las Vegas, but I live in South Carolina
12:46 <@Dagmar> Ah
12:46 <@klixa> my bf...or ex...i think he might have a brain tumor
12:46 <@Dagmar> *Somehow* the snow that was coming to us simply decided to not put out
12:46 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, as long as you make a little room for Pig...
12:47 <@SuMo_D> I'm jealous its totally screwing up my week...
12:47 <@SuMo_D> it was 65 yesterday, the south is so odd
12:47 <@klixa> Dagmar: i stole all your snow
12:47 <@klixa> its here in texas
12:47 <@wilpig> what about room for me?
12:47 <@wilpig> btw I had fresh snow outside this morning when I got up
12:47 <@klixa> with my texas shaped waffles
12:48 <@SuMo_D> yum
12:48 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: klixa's moving in with you
12:48 <@klixa> wilpig: RangerZ is trying to get us to live together is all
12:48 <@wilpig> who's the kid miving in with?
12:48 <@klixa> see??? lmfao
12:48 <@Mirage> SFW Hugme pic: http://www.phreaknic.info/pn345/pix98/antimony/an-hugme_skirt.jpg
12:48 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: you should love a baby.  It keeps the same hours as you.
12:49 <@wilpig> haha that you have to specify sfw on a pic of hugme
12:49 <@wilpig> Corydon76-home: I am keeping normal human hours now
12:49  * wilpig is human!
12:49 <@Corydon76-home> Lies!
12:50 <@Mirage> wilpig: given the subject, i felt it was needed since _most_ Hugme pics are assumed to be NSFW
12:50 <@wilpig> true
12:51 <@Corydon76-home> I had kind of forgotten how revolting he can look... and be proud of it
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12:51 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: thats not nice...he looks real pretty imo
12:52 <@klixa> :)
12:52 < RangerZ> see, she has problems
12:52 <@wilpig> lol
12:52 < RangerZ> which is why she needs to be put in a small room with wilpig
12:53 < RangerZ> so she can reflect upon herself, and see how bad it can really be, atleast she isn't a ginger
12:53 < RangerZ> though... most ginger girls are pretty cute (most)
12:53 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: I prefer smooth guys who look like they're around 18.
12:53 <@klixa> twinks?
12:53 <@Corydon76-home> Exactly
12:53  * wilpig shakes his fist at RangerZ 
12:54 <@klixa> thats what i liked too Corydon76-home
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12:54 <@klixa> my current is hairless and smooth and stuff
12:55 <@klixa> blondes...
12:55 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: the nice thing is that there are guys who are 32 who still look like that
12:55 <@klixa> my ...um... person i live with ha a nice smooth young looking body
12:55 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, and bottoms.  I like bottoms.
12:56 <@klixa> i really dont care about appearence anymore tho
12:56 <@wilpig> klixa: cause you live with a babuy
12:56 <@Mirage> wilpig: you married one
12:56 <@Mirage> wilpig: I still say you should have just adopted her.
12:57 <@klixa> the 47 year old male has the smooth body...
12:57 <@klixa> :P
12:57 <@wilpig> Mirage: i want nothing to do with her at this point.  I want the money she owes me then she can rot in a ditch for all I care
12:58 <@Mirage> I doubt you'll see the money...rotting in a ditch will probably happen at some point
12:59 <@klixa> well...guess im moving to the bay in 2 days
13:00 <@klixa> :/
13:00 < RangerZ> i have even odds on her moving to the same city as wilpig up in NJ, within 2 years, because the fates hate him so much
13:00 < RangerZ> so he'll just start seeing her around town
13:00 <@klixa> fates hate me too RangerZ
13:01 <@oddball> Anybody else in the Nashville area having a bitch of a time with Comcast's cable modem service today?
13:01 <@Dagmar> oddball: Change your master password, by the way
13:02 <@oddball> huh?
13:02 <@oddball> My master password to what?
13:02 <@Dagmar> To comcast
13:03 <@Dagmar> They fucking failed to install patches to their janky ass systems and got compromised over the weekend
13:03 <@Dagmar> The exploit and instructions were on Pastebin
13:03 <@oddball> Ah, ok.
13:03 <@klixa> i wish him just being too stupid to pack better was the answer... i linked him the story the cold equation and said he reminded me of it... he didnt get the reference so maybe he is just dumb
13:04 <@Corydon76-home> And just think -- your kid has half of his genes
13:04 <@klixa> no, not him
13:05 <@klixa> the dumb guy is the one i was gonna go to
13:05 <@oddball> be right back.  Going to do a hard reboot of the cable modem.  A soft one didn't seem to do anything and I'm getting over 3000ms pings to the modem.
13:05 <@klixa> my baby daddy is smart!
13:05 <@Corydon76-home> (just psycho)
13:05 <@klixa> yeah...
13:05 <@klixa> but smart and hot
13:06 <@NotLarry> klixa: I could be your baby daddy, if you ever get tired of smart and hot.
13:06 <@Corydon76-home> So what you're saying is, you just gave birth to Damian.
13:06 <@klixa> NotLarry: dont you have a wife?
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13:07 <@NotLarry> klixa: I have a dog too, what is your point?
13:07 <@klixa> lol
13:07 <@NotLarry> actually, I don't have a dog, I have a cat.
13:07 <@Corydon76-home> and two kids (that we know of)
13:07 < RangerZ> NotLarry: don't insult your children like that, sure the one looks like a puppy, and you haven't housetrained him yet... but still thats mean
13:07 <@klixa> RangerZ: ha
13:08 <@klixa> NotLarry: im very unpicky right now
13:08 <@NotLarry> klixa: good, good.
13:09 <@NotLarry> klixa: Which part of texas?
13:09 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: if you change your name to Mary and your kid's name to Jesus, I have a stable with your name on it.
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13:10 <@klixa> NotLarry: wichita falls...but im heading towards the bay in 2 days
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13:10 <@NotLarry> permenently, or just for the weekend
13:11 <@klixa> i have no idea
13:11 <@NotLarry> klixa: so you are in oklahoma
13:11 <@klixa> and honestly...as random as i am...i could be headed to nashville too
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13:11 <@klixa> i asked my brother if i could stayt...he says no
13:11 <@klixa> otherwise, i was gonna go to  nashville
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13:11 <@klixa> im still trying to contact people i know...
13:11 <@NotLarry> you know me:)
13:11 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: any better?
13:12 <@oddball> Yes.  much better.
13:12 <@oddball> Note to self... apparently the soft reset does nothing on my cable modem.
13:12 <@klixa> NotLarry: oh well in that case... me and the baby will be right over and we will move in with you...all my problems are solves! :P
13:12 <@klixa> solved*
13:13 <@Corydon76-home> Note to self:  remote compromise on oddball's modem did not survive past reboot.
13:13 <@NotLarry> ok
13:13 <@NotLarry> Our room mate smokes in his room.
13:13 <@NotLarry> Drinks
13:14 <@NotLarry> We have animals
13:14 <@NotLarry> and a 20 year old
13:14 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: Damn yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooou!
13:14 <@Corydon76-home> NotLarry: is that the one with a penchant for seducing older women?
13:14 <@klixa> NotLarry: will your roommate give me free beer
13:14 <@klixa> :)
13:15 <@Dagmar> oddball: It's probably not you.  I'm getting some fairly varied ping times to 68.85.50.10
13:15 <@NotLarry> I will share beer with you when I get off work.
13:15 <@NotLarry> He drinks skol
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13:15 <@Dagmar> Good luck trying to report to Comcast a problem with _their_ equipment tho'.
13:15 <@klixa> ugh, skol...i had a bad expeeicne with that once
13:15 <@oddball> Also, tip: compromises work much better if they don't slow things down to the point that it forces the target to investigate. :p
13:15 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: aren't you still nursing, though?
13:15 <@klixa> NotLarry: ok, gimme your address...let me just punch that into my gps
13:15 <@Dagmar> Maybe they thought you were using Netflix
13:15 <@Dagmar> ...or that you _were_ Netflix.
13:16  * NotLarry starts scrolling back to see what he just agreed to.
13:16 <@Dagmar> Keep in mind these are the same people who brought us "Destroy All Connections" Sandvine
13:16 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: i dont nurse when i drink... i have read about how to drink and nurse...and actually im...failing anyway...my milk supply is too low
13:16 <@Corydon76-home> Note to self:  turn on optimizations when compiling exploit code for oddball's modem.
13:16 <@klixa> shes like 80% formula and 20% nursing
13:16 <@oddball> Dagmar: Oh no, this time it was my modem.  I was getting an avg. of over 3000ms pings to 192.168.100.1 (the internal port of the modem).
13:16 <@Dagmar> Ouch
13:16 <@klixa> i have only drank once... i had 3 beers last week
13:17 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: as long as the ethanol doesn't show up in the breast milk, you're probably okay.
13:17 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/world/middleeast/suicide-bomb-instructor-accidentally-kills-iraqi-pupils.html?_r=1
13:17 <@GateKeeper> Title: Log In - The New York Times (at www.nytimes.com)
13:17 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: i didnt nurse her that night, i "pumped and dumped"
13:18 <@Corydon76-home> If it does show up in your breast milk, though, just give it to NotLarry to drink
13:18 <@oddball> Oh... drinking while pregnant?  Isn't the general thought that it's ok to have something like 1 drink a day?  (of course, safe bet is none, but...)
13:18 <@klixa> oddball: im not pregnant
13:18 <@oddball> Oh... while nursing.  nevermind.
13:19 <@Corydon76-home> Or heat it, and the alcohol will evaporate at 80C
13:19 <@oddball> klixa: But... but... I thought anarchival was telling everyone that you were having Dagmar's children. :p
13:20 <@Dolemite> No, no, I thought she said that *SHE* wanted to have Dagmar's children
13:20 <@Bahhumbug> Here's a great idea.  Can we just forget about that bitch?
13:20 <@Bahhumbug> Thanks!
13:21 <@oddball> Dolemite: Oh... right... I get confused.
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13:22 <@klixa> oddball: who do you think is this child
13:22 <@klixa> ss father
13:22 <@klixa> damit, i fucked that up nm
13:22 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: I would prefer if we didn't use pejoratives when people aren't around to defend themselves
13:22 <@oddball> klixa: So... there is a child...
13:23 <@Bahhumbug> Does it matter if I repeatedly told her she was when she was present?
13:23 <@klixa> oddball: lol
13:24 <@klixa> i dunno wtf anarchival's deal was/is
13:24 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: yes, you do
13:25 <@Corydon76-home> Her trust was betrayed as a child by the people she should be able to most trust, and she has trust issues
13:25 <@klixa> no, i mean with her weirdo accusations
13:25 <@klixa> i know her overall deal
13:25 <@klixa> shes insecure and overceompensates and feels she has to earn love
13:25 <@Corydon76-home> Therefore, she views everybody's motives with suspicion
13:25 <@klixa> but she does it wrong, and it backfires
13:26 <@Corydon76-home> Paranoia is the natural result of being unable to trust.
13:27 <@klixa> well, she also has a lot of vitriol
13:28 <@klixa> and everyone has been through stuff...i cut her some slack most of the time...but i just wnated to smash her head in the rest f the time
13:28 <@klixa> :D
13:28 <@wilpig> Corydon76-home: she's also quite possibly bipolar
13:28 <@Bahhumbug> You people over analyse.
13:28 <@klixa> dude, im bipolar
13:28 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: and a tinge of BPD
13:28 <@klixa> that is NOT how bipoalr acts
13:29 <@Bahhumbug> I mean, you're right and all.
13:29 <@klixa> shes borderline p[ersonality disorder
13:29 <@klixa> google it
13:29 <@klixa> bipolar= sometimes i have no energy and feel bad...othertimes i rarely sleep and make stuff
13:31 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: I can understand why and understand the emotions without needing to characterize the result.
13:32 <@Dagmar> I say it's rabies.
13:32 <@Corydon76-home> Thus improving communication.  I don't have to agree with her to understand why she reacts in particular ways, but it may help to refocus some of her outlets
13:33 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: she doesnt attack you
13:33 <@klixa> its easy to be nice when you arent being attacked
13:33 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: she has attacked me on regular occasions
13:33 <@Bahhumbug> I will be honest at the risk of not being a nice guy: I don't care what leads to a person acting like her.  I only care about how she comes across.
13:33 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: i guess you are just nicer than us then, nm :)
13:34 <@klixa> Bahhumbug: yeh, thats what i meant when i said we have all been through stuff
13:34 <@klixa> EVERYONE can justify bad behavior if they want
13:34 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: I'm in a relationship with someone with disabling bipolar disorder.  I've learned to cope with it.
13:34 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: it's not about justifying it.  It's about understanding it sufficiently to help them rechannel their energies
13:35 <@klixa> but its not MY job to rechannel THEM
13:35 <@klixa> its her job
13:35 <@klixa> shes 33
13:35 <@klixa> its not like shes 16
13:36 <@Corydon76-home> Everybody has unique talents, but you sometimes have to accomodate others' deficiencies in order to make a better world
13:36 <@Dagmar> This is true.  I've not heard her say 'YOLO' or 'SWAG' or any of the telltales
13:37 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: normally i like to help people... but, she attcked me at random one day...and i didnt like it
13:38 <@klixa> it was before i knew she was crazy
13:38 <@Dagmar> "one day"?
13:38 <@Corydon76-home> Nobody likes being attacked.
13:38 < RangerZ1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQUueK_QsZk << for any girl who played FFX , so they 'feel the awws'
13:38 < RangerZ1> lol
13:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster - Valentines Day Trailer - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:38 <@klixa> Dagmar: oh, well she attcked after that... but i mean that first time was enough to make me not like her
13:39 <@Dagmar> Okay.   I was wondering because I was pretty sure it was an every-other-day occurrence at least
13:39 <@Corydon76-home> The key is to understand why she reacts, and then to help phrase it in a more accommodating way
13:39 <@Dagmar> They have shots for rabies.
13:39 <@wilpig> rephrase "all men rape"
13:39 <@Dagmar> wilpig++
13:39 <@Dagmar> excellent example
13:39 <@wilpig> "I haven't been to phreaknic because, rape"
13:40 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: all men would like to rape, but society prevents them from acting that way
13:40 <@Dagmar> Meanwhile, about a third of our crowd couldn't be convinced to talk to a pretty girl if they were held at gunpoint
13:40 <@wilpig> Dagmar: +1
13:40 <@wilpig> and :9
13:40 <@wilpig> :(
13:41 <@Dagmar> I wound up babysitting Opheria the last year at the Stadium because I was worried she'd pass out somewhere embarassing.
13:41 <@Corydon76-home> So "all men rape" actually becomes "all men have the potential to rape"
13:41 <@Dagmar> I wasn't really concerned about our crown doing anything untoward, because I think most people would not be the least bit surprised to see me throw someone off the roof
13:41 <@wilpig> why does it have to be men?
13:41 <@Corydon76-home> It doesn't
13:42 <@Dagmar> They might be shocked that it occurred, but they wouldn't doubt I did it for a moment
13:42 <@wilpig> I'd say dogs are for more likely to push on unwanted sexual advances and in some cases finish too
13:42 <@Dagmar> s/crown/crowd/
13:42 <@Corydon76-home> But I doubt she's worried about being raped by women
13:42 <@SuMo_D> I didn't feel like anybody was ready to rape me last year if that means anything...
13:43 <@SuMo_D> I think there were more OMG LOOK ITS ONE OF THEM glances
13:43 <@wilpig> Dagmar: I swear if I ever came across opheria passed out.  I'd totally draw a dick on her face.
13:43 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... no rapey
13:43 <@Dagmar> lol
13:43 <@Dagmar> wlipig: If it were felt I'd probably consider it fair dinkum
13:43 <@wilpig> she'd be pissed later, but she'd understand
13:43 <@Dagmar> er felt-tipped
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13:43 <@Corydon76-home> SuMo_D: I think most men are pretty well conditioned not to rape nowadays
13:43 <@Dagmar> Sharpie I kinda feel is going a bit too far
13:44 <@klixa> shes not worrie about being raped at all...she wants to act like someone MIGHT want to rape her...cause in her mind i think she sickly think it means shes desired
13:44 <@Bahhumbug> I'm sorry.  I am not a nice guy.  I'm not going to waste my time trying to understand someone whose sole intention was to be a raving lunatic to everyone she interacted with.
13:44 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: she's worried, but it's mostly an irrational fear
13:44 <@klixa> and now that i know who the X person is, i get why he likes her...hes using her... unless he is a lot difefrent than he was 20 years ago
13:44 <@Bahhumbug> I don't care what happened to her.  That doesn't give her the right to be that way.
13:45 <@SuMo_D> Corydon76-home - in America... of a certain age... yes
13:45 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: I tried to explain that to her
13:45 <@SuMo_D> ^ yes that
13:45 <@SuMo_D> I donno... I just didn't engage her... or tried not to
13:45 <@Corydon76-home> The mind doesn't work that way.  My doctor had to explain to me that while we all think we're rational beings, we are mostly irrational
13:45 <@Bahhumbug> She still attacked you, SuMo_D.
13:46 <@SuMo_D> probably
13:46 <@SuMo_D> but I forgot it
13:46 <@Bahhumbug> Everyone was fair game other than her couple "friends".
13:46 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: i dont think she really is worried...i think its like i said..and the other part is a way to control people/get attenton
13:46 <@Corydon76-home> You can't tell someone to reject how they're feeling, and have them suddenly switch
13:46 <@klixa> she wants to [revent aestetix from saying penis, etc (not that i endorese him doing that, but i dont care really)
13:47 <@Corydon76-home> Cognitive dissonance
13:47 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix is actually amusing when he does that.
13:47 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix is actually annoying when he does that
13:47 <@Bahhumbug> If it was mercster, however, everyone would be jumping down his throat.
13:47 <@Corydon76-home> Along with his probing and questions about our private sex lives
13:48 <@Dagmar> Mercster never stopped at one token thing of idiocy
13:48 <@Bahhumbug> Odd, he's never bothered asking me anything like that.
13:48 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: No.
13:48 <@Bahhumbug> He didn't.
13:48 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: I don't think he's ever met you
13:48 <@Bahhumbug> He was truly annoying.
13:48 <@wilpig> he was beyond annoying.  much like cerkit
13:48 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: Nope.  None of you have :)
13:49 <@SuMo_D> ummm so why are we wasting time talking about her when she's not here?
13:49 <@Bahhumbug> Well, other than Ian.
13:49 <@Dagmar> I've had her on ignore since last week.
13:49 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: I did try to get you to come out several times. assbag
13:49 <@Corydon76-home> Mercster is also suffering from a disabling form of schitzophrenia
13:49 <@SuMo_D> that's sad :(
13:49 <@SuMo_D> I really have a soft spot for mental illness...
13:49 <@Corydon76-home> and I mean that literally.  That's his diagnosis
13:49 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: yeah, he did start asking questions...but i think it was to troll her...maybe not, i dunno...2 wrongs dont make a right
13:50 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: he does it to me, too
13:50 <@Bahhumbug> It was typical aestetix from what I've seen.
13:50 <@SuMo_D> but I have a hard time with my own shit... there's only so much I can engage :/ but I really do hope they can find the help they need
13:50 <@Bahhumbug> mercster
13:50 <@Bahhumbug> mercster
13:50 <@Bahhumbug> mercster
13:50  * Bahhumbug hides
13:50 <@Corydon76-home> SuMo_D: Medication is the only way
13:50 <@Dagmar> Don't amke me ban you
13:51 <@Corydon76-home> Actually, ECT might help, too
13:51 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug would probably pay to have anarchival given ECT treatments, if he was allowed to watch.
13:51  * wilpig kicks Bahhumbug in the nuts
13:52 <@wilpig> trying to summon demons up in here
13:52 <@Dagmar> CAN WE MAKE A KICKSTARTER FOR THAT?
13:52  * wilpig offers up a fork
13:52 <@Corydon76-home> For giving anarchival ECT?
13:52 <@Dagmar> YES.
13:52 <@Dagmar> This is highly relevant to my interests.
13:53 <@klixa> ect?
13:53 <@Dagmar> I suspect if we were to just, sort of, do it on our own, there would be questions.
13:53 <@Corydon76-home> I think some people in the larger Nashville community would add to that fund
13:53 <@Dagmar> Electroshock Therapy, basically.
13:53 <@klixa> the c is what threw me off
13:53 <@SuMo_D> Corydon76-home yes, a support system helps too keeping people taking their meds and staying healthy
13:53 <@Corydon76-home> Electro Convulsive Therapy
13:53 <@klixa> do it on our own, lmfao
13:53 <@Dagmar> I feel that putting the word "Convulsive" in there makes one sound too eager
13:54 <@Corydon76-home> The therapy can, over time, essentially blank out a person's memory
13:54 <@Dagmar> I think the Orb said it best
13:55 <@klixa> little fluffy clouds
13:55 <@Dagmar> "All those childhood traumas magically wiped away, along with most of your personality"
13:55 <@klixa> eternal sunshine...
13:55  * Dagmar plays the xylophone
13:56 <@wilpig> Dagmar: some personalities can stand up to a reset
13:56 <@Bahhumbug> I would probably enjoy watching that.  I love watching videos of people being tazed.
13:56 <@klixa> i hope its one of those fisher price rainbow xylophones
13:56 <@Dagmar> wilpig: I have no objections to doing it as many times as it takes
13:56 <@Dagmar> klixa: Actually I was referring to a specific Orb track, where they do have that as a sound byte
13:57 <@Dagmar> They're using a sound byte from a 1975 episode of SNL
13:57 <@klixa> which track
13:57 <@Dagmar> I *think* it's one of hte Towers of Dub remixes.  Not sure yet.  Waiting for the playback in my head to get to a more recognizable points
13:58 <@Dagmar> I could say 'It has flute in it, and a plucked bass' but that woulnd't be very useful
13:58 <@klixa> i know all about the head playback
13:59 <@Dagmar> Oh https://www.facebook.com/TheOrb/posts/10150749858186214  and *might* be in here as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfpyNOJ0iJw
13:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: Comments (at www.facebook.com)
14:00 <@Dagmar> It was on two different tracks from Pomme Fritz which is why it was messing with me
14:01 <@Dagmar> Yeah about 2:41 in that track as wedll
14:06 <@Dolemite> I had a friend in Florida that was a bit too fond of recreational drugs.  She underwent ECT and came out Jewish.  I kid you not.
14:06 <@Dolemite> Changed her name from Michele to Tzippporah
14:07 <@klixa> i wish pot didnt scare me...or id smoke it
14:07 <@wilpig> I wanna see Dolemite get some ect and change his name.
14:08 <@NotLarry> How can pot scare you?
14:08 <@NotLarry> Wait, I know
14:08 < RangerZ1> I get out of body experiences out of codiene (sp?)
14:08 <@wilpig> it wears a ski mask and pulls a gun on you?
14:08 <@Dolemite> NotLarry: If you take a hit of acid first, I'm sure it will
14:08 <@NotLarry> I once was working in the woods laying geophones when I looked up and was surrounded by pot plants.  THAT fucking scared me!
14:08 <@Dolemite> Those plants are pretty heinous looking
14:08 < RangerZ1> so I don't even wanna try _addictive_ drugs like Pot
14:08 < RangerZ1> ;)
14:10 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ1: you should try some of the prescription drugs I'm on.  Addictive doesn't come close to describing them
14:11 <@NotLarry> I think I have a bottle full of prozac in the medicine cabinet.  Doctor prescribed it cause he wants me to stop taking xanax.
14:11 <@Corydon76-home> The doctors even came up with "SSRI Discontinuation Syndrome" because they didn't want to call it "Withdrawal"
14:11 <@Mirage> Wow... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2APZN9FJNY
14:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Party Rock Anthem -Violinists can shuffle too - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:12 <@Mirage> Warning...do not watch that if you just ate lunch.
14:12 <@Mirage> I had some modicrum of respect for Lindsey Stirling until I just watch part of this one..
14:12 <@NotLarry> I would never take acid
14:13 < RangerZ1> she's a cutie, but I don't think she's _that_ good
14:13 <@Corydon76-home> NotLarry: do you get migraines?
14:13 <@wilpig> i'm in the dc so I can't hear it.
14:13 <@Corydon76-home> LSD actually is amazingly effective for migraines
14:14 <@NotLarry> Corydon76-home: I have had 4 or 5.  I have medicine for that.  But now that I have new glasses they seem to have stopped.
14:14 <@Corydon76-home> The side effects of LSD, however, are a bit much for regular use
14:15 <@Corydon76-home> but if all else fails, LSD.
14:15 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Isn't she one of thsoe people who think other people still care about violinists?
14:15 <@Mirage> RangerZ1: most of her stuff isn't great..but this is the first one i've seen that i couldn't even watch/listen to the entire song
14:15 <@NotLarry> I would like to try peyote
14:15 <@Dagmar> Why is it anathema for lunch?
14:15 <@klixa> i was offered peite st arwa 101
14:15 <@klixa> peyote* area*
14:15 <@klixa> they were doing a sweat
14:16 <@Corydon76-home> Is Area 101 anywhere near Area 51?
14:16 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I personally thought it was a bad enough cover (esp the vocals) that some more sensitive people might not be able to keep their lunch down while listening to it.
14:16 <@klixa> no...its a weed co=op in mendocino where they have the emerald cup
14:16 <@Dagmar> cover of what?
14:16 <@Dagmar> Oh wait
14:16 <@Dagmar> A shitty song to begin with.
14:16 <@Mirage> LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem
14:16 <@Corydon76-home> If Tennessee ever legalized pot, I might try it.
14:16 <@Dagmar> For some reason she thinks she can play dubstep on that thing
14:17 <@Bahhumbug> Pot's illegal?
14:17 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: only if you get caught
14:17 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: ...and with that you ensure that as soon as it happens, I'm heading to your house with a bong and a sack
14:17 <@klixa> not in norcal
14:17 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig: yep
14:17 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: why would you want to see me stoned?
14:17 <@klixa>  http://blogs.sacbee.com/weed-wars/2010/04/mendocinos-area-101-strives-to-be-the-learning-center-of-pot.html
14:17 <@GateKeeper> Title: Weed Wars: Mendocino's Area 101 strives to be the 'learning center' of pot (at blogs.sacbee.com)
14:18 <@klixa> http://theemeraldcup.com
14:18 <@klixa> i worked there one summer
14:18 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: No particular reason.  Mainly I jsut want to make sure  you don't wind up overdoing it and calling 911 to tell them that you can feel your heart beating and you're going to die
14:18 <@Corydon76-home> There are a shit ton of guys on CL who seem to get stoned for the sole purpose of making themselves pliable to the idea of having sex with other guys.
14:18 <@Dagmar> ...because that has happened to some _potheads_ we know.
14:19 <@Dagmar> People who haven't smoked pot ever are WAY more likely to fail
14:19 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Specifically, yes, Becky once smoked herself so high she called for an ambulance.
14:19 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I'm more likely to quit before it does anything and figure it's useless
14:19 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Hence, the bong.
14:20 <@Dagmar> I will use my MacGuyver-like engineering skills to produce a device capable of reducing the air passing through it to 50F or lower
14:20 < RangerZ1> an ice pick?
14:20 < RangerZ1> ohh nvm, wrong window
14:20 <@klixa> i quit smoking pot csuse i thought i ws gonna die once
14:21 <@klixa> 3 hours of pounding heart terror
14:21 <@Dagmar> This ensures that even someone who doesn't generally smoke will be able to get in a good double-lungful without subsequently turming themselves inside out with a massive coughing fit.
14:21 <@klixa> blue cheese strain
14:21 <@Dagmar> ONe hit's plenty
14:21 <@klixa> i onlyu took one bong hit
14:21 <@klixa> f*** blue cheese
14:21 <@rattle> o lord, I forgot she did that.  Heh
14:22 <@rattle> Remember the 2000 new years at Decius's?
14:22 <@Dagmar> klixa: Not unsurprisingly, marijuana is wildly variable in it's strengths
14:22 <@Dagmar> rattle: yes, I do.  That was some kind of speed record there.
14:22 <@Dagmar> Her little ambulance ride was actually within the last 2-3 years she was still living in Nashville
14:24 <@Corydon76-home> If pot does to me what SSRIs do to me, you don't want to be anywhere near me.
14:25 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: pot is unredictable
14:25 <@sasquatc4> unless you get it from legal sources :)
14:25 <@klixa> sometimes it calmed me sometimes it freaked me out
14:25 <@klixa> i got the legal source kind
14:25 <@klixa> i was in mendocino...etc
14:25 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: I just took my pill.  I am wired and horny right now.
14:26 <@klixa> the same weed the dispensieries sell
14:26 <@Dagmar> Gotta remember to look up speed skating mishaps when I get home
14:26 <@klixa> that dispensery weed isnt any more stable...its a plant...its like coffee
14:26 <@klixa> caffeine in coffee is highly variable
14:26 <@Corydon76-home> Venlafaxine is what I'm on, if you're curious
14:26 <@Dagmar> klixa: Yes but at the dispensary they can tell you if it's "dirt weed" or "one hit wheelchair special"
14:26 <@sasquatc4> the same strains are fairly predictable, obviously different strains are going to differ, but at least around here everything is pretty reliable
14:27 <@klixa> Dagmar: mendocino ONLY has one hit wheelchair special
14:27 <@Dagmar> ...and caffiene in coffee isn't so variable that half a cup might make you feel like you will never sleep again
14:27 <@klixa> dirt weed is a TN/ other non cali thing
14:27 <@Corydon76-home> sasquatc4: are you in Colorado?
14:27 <@Dagmar> klixa: No, I guarantee if you say "I'm a lightweight.  What's the weakest stuff you have?" they can pick one
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14:27 <@klixa> the weakest stuff i found was my neighbors homegrown Norther LIghts
14:28 <@Dagmar> Believe me, I'm well aware that Cali's weed starts at "crippling" and works it's way up from there.
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14:28 <@Dagmar> ...and it doens't help when rattle's involved either, the sneaky bastards
14:28 <@Corydon76-home> The weakest stuff they have is the kind they use to make hemp paper
14:28 <@sasquatc4> wierd, got disconnected, buet yea, in colorado
14:28 <@sasquatc4> *but
14:28 <@Corydon76-home> sasquatc4: Dagmar and I will be visiting for vacation
14:29 <@Dagmar> This is entirely possibly, actually
14:29 <@sasquatc4> hehe, well apparently this is like more than half the sales around here are from tourists
14:29 <@sasquatc4> still have yet to hit up a store though, but 2 of the dispensaries around the corner from my house are supposed to go legal next month, so ill probably go then
14:31 <@wilpig> sasquatc4: legal pot = huge tourist dollars
14:31 <@Dagmar> Fuckin' awesome
14:31 <@NotLarry> wi
14:31 <@wilpig> you're not only getting money from out of the area, you're also generating the taxes on top of that
14:31 <@NotLarry> fuck
14:32 <@wilpig> it's a win win for the local economy all around
14:32 <@NotLarry> wilpig: can you check my junk mail for pickens.net for a livejournal email?
14:32 <@wilpig> yeah.  sec
14:33 <@sasquatc4> yea, i do wonder if prices have settled down now, last month when it started legal prices were 2x medical prices just due to demand
14:33 <@Mirage> I'd think that they would require in-state ID's for something like that, since it's illegal in the neighboring states
14:33 <@Dagmar> nope
14:33 <@Dagmar> They wrote laws especially to address tourists.
14:33 <@wilpig> [root@hosting wilbur]# grep livej /var/log/maillog | grep picken
14:33 <@wilpig> [root@hosting wilbur]#
14:33 <@wilpig> nada
14:34 <@sasquatc4> yea tourists can buy, its just 1/4 of what a resident can
14:34 <@Dagmar> Non-residents are not allowed to purchase more than like a quarter at once, and are not allowed to posses more than an ounce.
14:34 <@Dagmar> I found it rather amusing that these limits were both reasonable and used "traditional" imperial units of measurement
14:35 <@Dagmar> ...being that a "quarter baggie" has been a pretty standard unit for about two decades now
14:35 <@wilpig> heh.  searching for live gets alot of microsoft crap.  livej gets livejasmin.
14:35 <@wilpig> I just checked the last few days worth of logs and nothing from livejournal
14:35 <@Dagmar> i'm not looking that up to find out what it is
14:36 <@Mirage> I'm sure that's so that if you do fail to smoke all your legally obtained pot, you shouldn't be hit my anything more than misdemeanor possession instead of distribution or trafficing
14:36 <@Mirage> s/trafficing/trafficking/
14:37 <@wilpig> Mirage: or it's to keep people from coming into the state and buying legally then going across state lines to resale / deliver for friends / etc
14:37 <@NotLarry> wow, wonder where I signed up from.  I've had my livejournal account since 99 or so.
14:38 <@Mirage> CO, etc does continue to make money from the tourists if all the tourists keep winding up in prison when they go home with it.
14:38 <@Mirage> er, doesn't
14:38 <@Dagmar> Mirage: No, mainly it's to put some limits on it so people won't drive in, buy up ALL THE DAMN WEED and leave to go resell it
14:38 <@Mirage> _not_ multi-tasking well atm
14:38 < aestetix> penis
14:39 <@wilpig> look at it as more of a right now any problems coming from the sale of pot there are the state's problem.  if they let them move it to the surrounding area then it becomes a federal problem.
14:39 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Turns out that when it's no longer illegal, _all the potheads want more at the same time_
14:39 <@wilpig> low limit = less of a chance to get expensive interstate legal disputes going on
14:39 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Colorado had to try to protect their own stash
14:40 <@wilpig> maybe Mirage has been partaking today.  that's why he's all over the place mentally
14:40 <@Dagmar> Someone still might go to a bunch of different places and buy it (notice how they're not tracking this, but they do put you on a list for antihistamines?)...
14:40 <@Mirage> wilpig: not likely...the stuff makes me vomit.
14:40 <@Dagmar> ...but the law means no dealer is going to risk getting in trouble by making a 'bulk sale'.
14:40 < aestetix> penis pot pie
14:41 <@Dagmar> ...and they still ran out of weed a few times this month.
14:41 <@oddball> Dagmar: i'm guessing you're talking about the supply issues in Co.  There's also the issue that there aren't many legal sources of pot for them yet.
14:41 <@Dagmar> oddball: No, actually I think you underestimate demand levels.
14:41 <@Dagmar> i've seen some pictures of entire warehouses filled with hydro racks
14:42 <@Dagmar> They're geared up to produce _lots_ of dope
14:42 <@Dagmar> ...but people keep just burning it as fast as they can.
14:42 <@Dagmar> Darn those people
14:42 <@Dagmar> They should really consider the feelings of all the people in the other states who have no weed.
14:42 < aestetix> oddball: how does one become a legal source of pot?
14:42 <@oddball> There's also always going to be an initial flood of purchases up front as people go "woohoo! legal weed!"
14:44 <@oddball> aestetix: That's... complicated right now.  And it depends on which legal authority you ask.
14:45 <@oddball> Colorado tells you you have to do a, b, and c... the Fed will tell you "nope... sorry.  Not legal."
14:45 <@sasquatc4> ^ definitely true, theres alot of older people i know that bought some just for the hell of it because now they can
14:46 -!- klixa is now known as NotKlixa
14:46 <@NotKlixa> I'm joining the NotLarry cult
14:46 < RangerZ1> 3rd new member this month
14:46 < RangerZ1> dues must be helping out
14:47 <@oddball> Of course, this will only contnue until the Fed decides that it should enforce federal law.
14:47 <@wilpig> NotLarry: does he has an anti-harassment policy that got you interested?
14:47 <@wilpig> NotKlixa: ^
14:48 <@NotKlixa> not that i am aware of,...it was his stunning good looks that got me
14:48 <@wilpig> NotKlixa: you're drunk, go homre
14:49 <@NotKlixa> come get me then wilpig
14:49 < aestetix> oddball: heh. I honestly tend to fall on the states rights side of things
14:49 < aestetix> I'm a big fan of telling the federal government to fuck off :)
14:49 <@wilpig> okay, but just so we're clear i come get you.  you're puttin out
14:50 <@NotKlixa> wilpig: thats fine...as long as your car has room for my baby
14:50 <@wilpig> extra passengers?  wtf?  I only have two seats
14:50 <@NotKlixa> story of my life!
14:51 <@oddball> Oh, I'm with you on that.  The Fed has managed to obtain entirely too much power through the interstate commerce clause, but it will be interesting if/when federal agents decide to raid "legal" pot shops.
14:51 <@wilpig> there's a bed if you have a crate
14:51  * wilpig ducks
14:51 <@NotLarry> well, my pickup has a special spot for a baby seat right in the middle.
14:51 <@NotKlixa> NotLarry: you dont put out tho
14:51 <@NotLarry> NotKlixa: just a sec, let me go ask teh wife about that.
14:52 <@wilpig> NotLarry: why are you asking her?  she puts out.  I know
14:53 < aestetix> oddball: yep
14:53 <@sasquatc4> oddball, i think it just depends on how quickly it can snowball to other states.  So far they've said they are staying out of CO, and if you get enough states to legalize it by the time they change their mind then they wont have much choice but to do it on a national scale
14:53 < aestetix> oddball: that's the power to regular commerce "among the serveral states" right?
14:53 < aestetix> regulate*
14:53 <@sasquatc4> some state had to start it though, same with taking down prohibition, i think CO started it then too, some state has to take a stand or else it never gets done
14:53 < aestetix> I don't think we'll see it legalized in CA
14:54 < aestetix> it would hurt the medicinal dispensaries too much
14:54 <@NotKlixa> aestetix: yeah
14:54 <@oddball> There's already been some serious questions flying back and forth dealing with the legality of pot when a person owns/purchases a firearm.
14:54 <@NotKlixa> when i lived in mendo they were adament about it not becoming legasl
14:54 < aestetix> but yeah
14:54 < aestetix> one thing I like about the south
14:54 < aestetix> the south is a huge supporter of states rights
14:55 < aestetix> none of this nanny state bullshit
14:55 <@sasquatc4> well medical still usually has exemptions, and lower tax status and what not, but why would a medical dispensary not just turn legal?
14:55 <@sasquatc4> thats what happened here is that medical places have first shot at being legal, i think its a few years before a non-medicinal dispensary can open as completely legal first
14:55 < aestetix> sasquatc4: it's not that. Is that having cannabis only being obtainable through dispensaries creates a limited supply
14:55 <@wilpig> NotLarry: btw I just added the new episode of True Detective.  it should show up soon
14:55 < aestetix> so you MUST go to a dispensary to get pot
14:55 <@sasquatc4> ahh
14:56 < aestetix> therefore legalizing it will hurt their business
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14:56 <@sasquatc4> well its the same here, you still have to go to a dispensary
14:56 <@wilpig> aestetix: I can grow tomatoes on my balcony but I still goto the store because it's easier
14:56 <@sasquatc4> its not like walmart is selling it
14:56 <@Dagmar> Give them time
14:57 <@NotLarry> wilpig: I know, the wife just offered to put out for NotKlixa.
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14:57 <@NotLarry> wilpig: can you share with haydeez?
14:58 <@wilpig> is it spelled haydeez?  it's case sensative
14:58 <@NotLarry> and do you know how to get subtitles to show?  Like I have the girl who leapt through time and in vlc I can right click and select the subtitle language, in plex that does not seem to be an option
14:58 <@NotLarry> oh shit, let me check
14:59 <@wilpig> nto sure on the web interface, I think you have to pick them before you start playing
14:59 <@NotLarry> Haydeez
14:59 < RangerZ2> aestetix: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/02/09/2351254/online-youre-being-watched-at-all-times-act-accordingly
14:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: Online, You're Being Watched At All Times; Act Accordingly. - Slashdot (at yro.slashdot.org)
14:59 <@NotKlixa> wilpig: dont you mean *our* balcony?
14:59 <@wilpig> I know with roku and hte wdtv I just hit the subtitle button on the remote
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14:59 <@wilpig> NotKlixa: yes.  my mistake.
15:00 <@sasquatc4> i dont think it will change to being sold in large non-local stores until its changed on a federal level, there are too many legal/banking issues that they just cant deal with it.  Its an all cash business because of that
15:00 <@wilpig> NotLarry: sent
15:00 <@Dagmar> Just wait for credit unions to figure it out
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15:02 < RangerZ2> NotLarry: .ass files (yes... i know... Anime Subtitle Software or something like that) are the actual raw sub files most mkv use(d?)
15:02 < RangerZ2> but plex will play subtitled MKV files
15:02 <@Dolemite> wilpig: Just remember rule #1.  Don't put your dick in crazy.  Klixa is self professed to be crazy.
15:02 <@wilpig> Dolemite: damnit.  I keep telling you that crazy is the most fun
15:02 < RangerZ2> is she any more crazy than his ex?
15:02 <@Dolemite> Nobody is any more crazy than his ex
15:02 < RangerZ2> b/c realization that you have a problem is father than she got
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15:03 <@klixa> im not mean crazy
15:03 <@klixa> im sweet and nice and loyal
15:04 <@klixa> and i can cook
15:04 <@wilpig> see Dolemite she's nice crazy.  it's okay to put my dick in
15:04 <@Dolemite> You can probably cook a pet rabbit if he looks at someone else.
15:04 <@klixa> Dolemite: no...just no
15:04 <@wilpig> mmmm rabbit
15:04 <@NotLarry> RangerZ2: thanks, I will see if I can figure out why I'm not seeing it.
15:04 < RangerZ2> klixa:  is a Yandere
15:04 <@klixa> RangerZ2: a what?
15:04 < RangerZ2> Yandere: Initially sweet and affectionate, with their love eventually turning into a stalkeresqe obsession and occasionally a murderous fixation on ‘getting rid of competition’ over time.
15:04 <@NotLarry> So the guy I watch stream at work is in taiwan, I like to turn the volume up, drives them nuts at work.  I don't understand chinese either:)
15:05 <@klixa> RangerZ2: if that were true, my "baby daddy" would be dead...he cheated on me and the chick is on his facebook
15:05 <@wilpig> RangerZ2: there is something wrong with me cause I just read that as "loyal"
15:05 < RangerZ2> you're just a lazy yandere
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15:06 < RangerZ2> yandere = went out on date once, decide to kill his ex(s), and his female friends, and  his gay friends
15:06 <@klixa> no, i just decided i was done and have been trying to find someone new
15:07 <@NotLarry> Well, I'm not new, I'm old.
15:07 <@NotLarry> Although I am dating a 17 year old but it's not working out.  I keep saying the wrong things...
15:07 <@NotLarry> "Is your homework done?"
15:07 <@NotLarry> "Did y
15:08 <@NotLarry> ou brush your teeth?"
15:08 <@klixa> lol
15:08 <@NotLarry> "Is that clean underwear?"
15:08 <@NotLarry> "Who's yer daddy?"
15:08 <@klixa> ...is he rich like me
15:09 <@NotLarry> I like that reference
15:13 <@Dolemite> Ok, this is pretty ridiculous.  One of the other contestants in the Genghis Grill Health Kwest just posted that he can't afford to tip when he goes to eat his FREE.  FUCKING.  MEAL.
15:13 <@klixa> Dolemite: i cant afford the gas to get there
15:13 <@klixa> :/
15:13 <@klixa> Dolemite: not everyone has money at all times
15:14 <@Dolemite> Then don't enter the contest
15:14 <@Dolemite> But the point is, he would have had to buy food for those 60 meals he's now getting for free.
15:14 <@Dolemite> There's no way to justify not being able to leave at least $1 each time he goes.
15:14 <@klixa> yeah, you're right
15:15 <@Dolemite> But if you can't afford to tip, then you can't afford to go out to eat.
15:15 <@klixa> can he get it to go
15:15 <@Dolemite> Grab a 5 gallon tub of peanut butter from Sam's Club and dig in.
15:15 <@Dolemite> No, the contest requires that you eat it there
15:15 <@klixa> why?
15:15 <@klixa> any reason?
15:15 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: shit, that food was free?
15:16 <@Corydon76-home> Damn, I would've signed up, if I knew it was free.
15:16 <@Dolemite> Because apparently in previous years some contestants were either giving away the free bowls or trashing them.
15:16 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: you have to be picked
15:16 <@klixa> not just anyone gets it free
15:16 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-home: Yes, we get 60 free bowls, plus there were some other meager swag items.
15:16 <@Corydon76-home> I need to lose weight, too
15:16 <@klixa> why would someone trash free food?!!??!?!?!!?
15:16 <@klixa> im only eating these days cause this place has continental breakfast
15:17 <@Dolemite> klixa: Because I'm expecting half of my 109 other contestants to be disqualified by the middle of March because they just can't stand to eat there another day.
15:17 <@klixa> i have been living off yogurt, waffes, and other stuff i hate
15:17 <@klixa> Dolemite: thats insane... their food looks awesome
15:17 <@Corydon76-home> Their food IS pretty awesome
15:17 <@klixa> and they have choices
15:17 <@klixa> you dont have to get the same thing all the time
15:17 <@Corydon76-home> You just have to know what to pick
15:18 <@Dolemite> You get to put together your own combination of ingredients, so if  you make something bad, it's your own damn fault
15:18 <@Dolemite> But they do have some combination recipes put together for us that are < 500 calories
15:18 <@Corydon76-home> The biggest problem usually is over-seasoning
15:18 <@klixa> sezchwan bamboo bowl looks good
15:18 <@Dagmar> Add water to small rocks.  < 500 calories!
15:19 <@Dagmar> Add banner ad to picture of small, damp rocks.  LOSE POUNDS WITH THIS ONE WEIRD DIET!!!
15:19 <@Dolemite> I've had very few calories today, so I can eat 1,400 calories at dinner and still come in at 1,500 calories below my burn rate.
15:19 <@Dagmar> In other news, I am disappointed with Slate's Olympic coverage... but only slightly disappointed.
15:20 <@klixa> Dolemite: if you decrease too much tho, metab slows
15:20 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: Carl's scavenging bonanza was less than 1,500 calories.  :)
15:21 <@Dolemite> klixa: Yes, I am hovering just above what should be starvation mode
15:21 <@wilpig> Dolemite: mmmm dr lauren and the moragan
15:21 <@klixa> i need to eat healthy again...but i cant afford food atm
15:21 <@Dolemite> wilpig: Oh, we had a new Lost Girl amidst the Olympics?
15:21 <@wilpig> yup
15:21 <@wilpig> watching now
15:21 <@Dolemite> I will have to download that tonight
15:21 <@oddball> SPeaking of which... That should have finished downloading...
15:22 <@Dagmar> M-o-r-r-i-g-a-n.
15:22 <@wilpig> lol.  women of the horse.  woman walks in... "hi i'm sister epona"
15:22 <@wilpig> I just expected link to run in and ride her
15:22 <@Dagmar> wilpig: That's a different network.
15:23 <@wilpig> haha vex's middle name is chauncey
15:25 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-home: The frustrating thing for you to know, then, is that it appears nobody from Franklin was chosen.  There are contestants for Memphis (2), Hendersonville, Mufreesboro, and Farragut (me).
15:25 <@Dolemite> It's likely nobody qualified bothered to sign up for Franklin
15:25 <@oddball> By the way... if any of you guys some how find yourself at a convention with any of the Lost Girl cast... go to their panels.
15:26 <@Dolemite> oddball: That's already a given, but any particular reason why you mention it?
15:26 <@oddball> They're funny as hell.
15:27 <@oddball> And do shit like the guy that plays Vex showing up to the Monday morning pannel at Dragoncon dressed up as the blond doctor.
15:27 <@Dagmar> I would *so* do the sidekick girl.
15:27 <@Dagmar> OMG.
15:27 <@wilpig> Dagmar: take a number
15:27 <@NotLarry> RangerZ2: thanks, found where I select subtitles.  doh
15:28 < RangerZ2> np
15:28 <@oddball> The guys of Lost Girl also apparently tried to keep up with the partying at Dragoncon.
15:28 < RangerZ2> off to class
15:28 <@Dolemite> Being of a certain age, I'd actually put The Morrigan at the top of my list.
15:28 <@Dolemite> But you all know I'm an old fart already
15:29 <@Corydon76-home> Yay, my overly expensive cookies arrived!
15:29 <@Dagmar> My interest in Ksenia Solo has nothing to do with age and everything to do with how delicious she would be.
15:29 <@Dolemite> Yay!  Time to log out and go walk around the swan pond a few times on the way to the car!
15:30 <@Corydon76-home> Girl Scout Cookies, if you're wondering
15:30 <@Dagmar> They're a pack of little liars.
15:30 <@Dagmar> Those mints won't make anyone thin.
15:30 <@oddball> Not when they keep packing 'em two servings per box.
15:31 <@wilpig> haha.  dr lauren just made me belly laugh
15:31 <@oddball> I think Naienko may be broken.  She told me she wanted to watch more Leverage instead of Lost Girl.
15:31 <@oddball> Yes... Leverage is good, but...
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15:32 <@Corydon76-home> I ordered quantities of 1, 1, 2, 3, 5.
15:38 <@wilpig> leverage is over, lost girl is new stuff
15:39 <@Dagmar> Leverage does not have Ksenia Solo with her cute nose and chirpy voice wearing tight things
15:39 <@oddball> Yes... Lost Girl definately wins on the eye candy.
15:40 <@Dagmar> THe last episode I noticed I had the volume down below the point where I could really make out most of what they said
15:40 <@Dagmar> Couldn't be bothered to reach to pick up the phone to turn the volume up
15:40 <@Dagmar> ...even though it was laying on top of my chest
15:41 <@Dagmar> SO CUTE
15:41 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to talk to Ms. Solo
15:49 <@wilpig> got just enough time for shameless before I head home
15:50 <@klixa> Dagmar: yeah, security would intervene before you had the chance :|
15:51 <@Dagmar> klixa: I doubt that
15:51 <@klixa> she has interesting eyes
15:52 <@klixa> i just googled her...never heard of her til just now
15:52 <@wilpig> klixa: lost girl is pretty bad ass
15:52 <@klixa> i think i saw some lesbian make out scene recently form it? do they so thta on that show?
15:52 <@klixa> i was flipping channels
15:53 <@klixa> it was weird...then someones face got ripped off
15:53 <@klixa> 2 really cute goth chicks, making out midair..then ones face rips off and they are a monster... it was on syfy and it was 2 chicks kissing so i am sure one of you knows what show it was
15:54 <@wilpig> klixa: yup
15:55 <@wilpig> haha.  frank and his lost daughter.  and her trying to bang him
15:55 <@Dagmar> They do rather a lot of oversexed stuff on that show
15:56 <@Dagmar> If the main character being a succubus isn't blatant fanservice, then I don't know what is.
15:56 <@Dagmar> Ksenia Solo's character on the other hand, is merely a human and therefore only perhipherally involved in any of it.
15:57 <@klixa> i find the older i get the more boring tv, etc gets
15:57 <@klixa> i am looking foward to the new cosmos with neil degrasse tyson tho
15:58 <@Dagmar> I like Person of Interest
15:59 <@Dagmar> Whoohoo
15:59 <@klixa> i havent seen it
15:59 <@Dagmar> With Mt. Gox getting asshanded today, BTC is still going down
15:59 <@Dagmar> klixa: The setup is that there's a giant computer (location now unknown) actually watching everyone and making judgment values
16:00 <@Dagmar> Terrorists it reports to the gov't
16:00 <@Dagmar> People in the approximate vecinity of our human characters who are about to be murdered or kill someone innocent, get reported to them
16:01 <@Dagmar> er... "them" being the inventor of "The Machine", the two ex black-ops scary-shit military people, and one bat-shit crazy hacker-girl named 'r00t'.
16:01 <@klixa> i will check out an episode
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16:01 <@Dagmar> root's pretty much decided that The Machine is god.
16:01 <@Dagmar> The Machine has pretty much decided that it likes talking to root, which is something it wouldn't even do much of with it's creator.
16:02 <@Dagmar> John, one of the scary scary (also known as "The Man In The Suit" by the FBI) likes beating bad people the fuck up.
16:02 <@Dagmar> First two episodes should give you a really good idea of the overallpremise
16:03 <@Dagmar> The show also has a first-rate set of technical advisors.
16:03 <@klixa> did you see continuum
16:03 <@Dagmar> No bullshit about 'OH MY GOD THEY'RE BREACHING THE FIREWALL WITH BLUE CHEESE"
16:03 <@klixa> i tried to get into it...but lost interest
16:03 <@Dagmar> Haven't tried watching it yet
16:03 <@klixa> lol blue cheese
16:03 <@Dagmar> No seriously, all the tech shit in Person of Interest is reasonably plausible
16:04 <@Dagmar> ...aside from the whole "giant computer what watches everyone and everything"
16:04 <@Dagmar> They've got their one magic MacGuffin
16:07 <@klixa> k...dl-ing ep 1 right now
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16:33 <@wilpig> hahaha
16:33 <@wilpig> "what are your indian names again?"   "one-eyed snake, and this is stinking wind"
16:33 < aestetix> god I am becoming such a manager
16:34 < aestetix> (of course only in volunteer projects)
16:34 <@klixa> what colunteer projects
16:35 <@klixa> volunteer*
16:35 < aestetix> various conference things ;)
16:35 <@klixa> i almost volunteered on some fedora thing...but the person i would have been working with was a pill addict and annoyd me
16:35 <@klixa> this was in the bay
16:40 <@wilpig> oh shit...  shameless just ended in a fuck moment
16:40 <@wilpig> two down and one in jail
16:41 <@wilpig> these are the times I miss having jason around
16:41 < aestetix> I've heard shameless is a good show
16:41 <@wilpig> william h macy is fantastic on it
16:49 < aestetix> vagina
16:50 <@wilpig> liar!
16:54 < aestetix> hey baby
16:54 < aestetix> what's happenin
16:56 <@Dagmar> grrrrrrr
16:56 <@Dagmar> Backup dude just made me pick his vlan _for_ him
16:56 <@wilpig> wrong window aestetix
16:57 <@Dagmar> If he thinks I'm going to get involved in their crazy and actually install the software... No.
16:57 <@Dagmar> Until I've seen something that says everything that guy has told me about how it works is wrong, no.
16:57 <@Dagmar> Making backups of filesystem images without the machine itself being aware of this happening is not safe.
16:57 <@Dagmar> Hell fucking no.
16:58 <@Dagmar> I can already smell this leading to them somehow trying to twist things so that we give "approval" for this fantastic piece of shit
16:58 <@Dagmar> I'll construct a goddamn six foot model of the word NO covered in green glitter and ruby sequens and set it on that dude's desk.
17:05 <@Dagmar> I already want to strangle the dude
17:05 <@Dagmar> He explains some component of the thing which sounds insasne, we say "That's insane.  It's completely the wrong way to do that."
17:06 <@Mirage> Who's this?
17:06 <@Dagmar> ...to which he replies "Well, maybe I'm not explaining it well."
17:06 <@Dagmar> John Ritter
17:06 <@Mirage> I figured.
17:06 <@Dagmar> He then goes on to explain some other equally deranged part of it, to which we say the same thing.
17:06 <@Dagmar> ...and at the end of it he says "So how do you guys feel about this?"
17:07 <@Dagmar> ...and then seems astonished to hear us say "Well John, it sounds like a steaming pile of shit from end to end that no one in their right mind would spend money on."
17:07 <@Dagmar> To which his response is "Well, we've already spent money on their other products" or some similar inanity.
17:07 <@Dagmar> I will not be a party to this forcible sodomy of common sense.
17:08 <@Mirage> Since he's an AIX guy, have him build a working proof of concept on the next new build AIX server that gets deployed.  =)
17:09 <@Dagmar> That sounds like a good idea actually.  :)
17:09 <@Dagmar> Jarvis is convinced they're planning on blaming us for this failing to work
17:10 <@Dagmar> I just made it very clear to Jarvis that he shouldn't worry about that, because I'm very good at explaining why a given product is an unworkable piece of shit.
17:10 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm pretty sure I can scribble up a perl script that will guarantee that any such snapshot-based backup abomination won't be able to read shit
17:13  * klixa sits back and continues to watch the Dagmar show
17:13 < aestetix> oh good
17:13 <@Mirage> I had a fun argument with a guy this morning that you would have enjoyed.  He was talking about a coding project he's doing on his "LAMP" server...using ruby and postgres.
17:13  * aestetix grabs popcorn
17:13  * klixa takes some of aestetix 's popcorn...and offers him a coke
17:14 < aestetix> how much coke?
17:14  * aestetix grabs a straw
17:14 <@klixa> 20 ounces...lol
17:14 <@Dagmar> Damn that's a lot of coke
17:14 <@Mirage> He wasn't grasping that Linux+Apache+PostgreSQL+Ruby isn't LAMP
17:14 <@brimstone> LAPR?
17:15 <@Dagmar> Fuck Ruby
17:15 < aestetix> Linux Apache Ruby Postgres
17:15 < aestetix> LARP
17:15 <@Mirage> I started referring to it as his LARP..=)
17:15 <@oddball> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fq4UIu-r0Q
17:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: Better Off Dead - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:16 <@oddball> Mirage: And then you hit him with a foam sword?  Or is it stop drop and roll?
17:16 <@Mirage> oddball: i wanted to hit him with something...
17:17 < aestetix> ugh
17:17 <@rattle> Why do people still use Apache?
17:17 < aestetix> fuck this harssment drama
17:17 < aestetix> I do not like people spilling out their details about not getting laid in three years
17:17 <@Mirage> rattle: because it works?
17:17 < aestetix> without prompting
17:17 <@Dagmar> lol
17:17 <@Dagmar> Who did this?
17:17 < aestetix> rattle: because they don't know about nginx
17:17 <@Dagmar> Because we're not hipsters
17:17 <@rattle> But..  It doesn't.  You can exhaust/dos an Apache instance super easy.
17:18 <@Dagmar> I can probably bust nginx just as easy
17:18 <@rattle> No, nginx is actually light years better.
17:18 <@rattle> Apache really sucks unless you have Varnish in front of it.
17:19 <@Dagmar> No, Apache with a bunch of shit running because it was installed by dumbasses requires Varnish
17:19 <@rattle> What..  Shit like PHP?
17:19 <@Dagmar> Case in point, the bullshit that is the way dimwits have added craptons of requirements to the VU web servers
17:19 <@Mirage> rattle: Varnish in my experience is s steaming pile of shit
17:20 <@Dagmar> Motherfucking wordpress no one ever updates unless you point a gun at them
17:20 <@Dagmar> Allowing jackasses to run testing shit that goes into infinite loops on production servers
17:20 <@rattle> Varnish, in my experience, can handle upwards of 2000 req/sec on a single core with almost no load.
17:20 <@Mirage> php eaccelerator works better than Varnish..
17:20 <@Dagmar> rattle: I can do 10,000 requests a second without straining _this_ server
17:20 <@Dagmar> Single core, 1.6Ghz, 512Mb of RAM.
17:21 <@Dagmar> No fancy architecture is really going to make users and armchair developers not be fucking stupid.
17:21 <@Mirage> what kind of site?  We ran it on some co-lo servers at vandy in front of drupal and wordpress..90% of the issues on the site were from varnish either locking up or just outright crashing
17:22 <@rattle> Then you
17:22 <@rattle> Then you were doing something really really wrong.
17:22 <@Dagmar> Oh it was probably user's code
17:22 <@Dagmar> Keep in mind these are the same fucks who failed at a simple bomb threat event
17:22 <@Dagmar> Despite me writing a two-page whitepaper explaining what the fuck we should be doing in advance of a 30,000 request load surge
17:23 <@Dagmar> ...which can be summarized as "Scrape shit.  Serve from stripped down Apache server that only does static content."
17:23 < aestetix> rattle: have you used apache with mod_worker?
17:23 <@Dagmar> Instead, what we got was "no one doing anything".
17:23 <@rattle> Best example I have in personal experience is the TP stack, which was A10/Varnishing/Nginx/php-fpm/(mysql|solr)..  Varnish handled upwards of 90% of the load.
17:23 <@Dagmar> LTM pool throttled at 250 connections a second.
17:24 <@Dagmar> Roughly 25,000 people basically running in cirles after a Big Scary Page appears on their desktop telling them there's a bomb coming to the medical center.
17:24 <@Dagmar> ...and to click on the following link for information on how to not die.
17:25 <@Dagmar> No fancy framework can mitigate the problem of the developers being wasteful idiots.
17:25 <@rattle> Things like mod_worker do help Apache not suck, true..
17:25 <@rattle> But I've yet to find a situation where nginx didn't outperform Apache.
17:25 <@Dagmar> Not having a wordpress theme that uses wget to retrieve content from _itself_ is another big one
17:25 <@rattle> And, it's config is far easier to deal with.
17:26 <@Mirage> what's hard about apache?
17:26 < aestetix> I've never actually gotten mod_worker to work rigth
17:26 < aestetix> whereas nginx does the same thing much better
17:27 <@Dagmar> aestetix: So in other words, you didn't configure it right, so you blame Apache?
17:27 <@rattle> It's not that it's hard, I just feel like I'm flashing back to the 90's every time I open the config.  Nginx is easier to deal with.
17:27 < aestetix> Dagmar: so in other words, nginx is configured properly out of the box.
17:27 <@Dagmar> No, nginx is configured to do what you're already doing, out of the box
17:27 < aestetix> Let me put it this way
17:27 < aestetix> I don't want to waste hours defining efficient CFLAGS either
17:28 <@Dagmar> Then stop using Gentoo
17:28 < aestetix> why do you think I stopped using apache?
17:28 <@klixa> everyone who uses gentoo should type emerge world while in a slow connection
17:28 <@Mirage> ineptitude?
17:28 <@klixa> on*
17:28 <@Dagmar> heh
17:29 <@Dagmar> So like, here's another example
17:29 <@Dagmar> Nevermind for the moment that Drupal is involved in this
17:29 <@Dagmar> We've a developer here who has this website he has unfortunately inherited which uses subdomains
17:30 <@rattle> I truly hate Drupal.
17:30 <@Dagmar> ...rather than subdividing the site to the right of the slash like foo.com/sitetwo foo.com/sitethree they use sitetwo.foo.com
17:30 <@Mirage> rattle: we agree there
17:30 <@Dagmar> Now they want to use SSL.
17:30 < aestetix> rattle: because it's PHP?
17:30 < aestetix> Dagmar: no wildcard certs?
17:30 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Wildcard certs are not exactly cheap
17:30 < aestetix> fair enough
17:30 <@rattle> It's a little known fact that Drupal causes AIDS.  Not HIV, but full blown AIDS.  If you use Drupal, eventually you'll get AIDS.  Or at least Russians.
17:31 <@Dagmar> Also, since the stuff goes through ITS which makes incredibly stupid decisions about this, they'll cost a fucking fortune
17:31 < aestetix> So yes, because of PHP
17:31 <@rattle> PHP isn't the problem.  Wordpress is actually pretty damn solid, as long as you don't load it up with poor quality plugins.
17:31 <@Dagmar> This consultant has realized where this has started to come apart at the seams
17:31 < aestetix> Dagmar: I guess he can't rig it to do a redirect?
17:31 <@Dagmar> The original people hiring him are now trying to blame Drupal for the bad design decision they made
17:32 <@Dagmar> ...which to me is not a whole lot different of argument.
17:32 <@Dagmar> If this shit were designed reasonably in the first place, there would be no major problems needing solving
17:32 <@rattle> I had very good success with the A10/Varnish/Nginx/(mysql|solr) stack..  TP has scaled basically without issue.
17:33 <@Dagmar> aestetix: No because these people have decided they want the subdomain thing
17:33 <@Dagmar> Neverind that it's generally incompatible with cheap+ssl
17:33 <@Dagmar> You can have two: subdomains, ssl, cheap
17:34 <@Dagmar> ...and like most of the sites here, if someone took their head out of their ass, they'd realize that nothing on the fucking site changes more than twice a day so why in god's name is it being generated with PHP every motherfucking time
17:35 <@Dagmar> PHP shouldn't ave to cache that.
17:35 <@Dagmar> People shouldn't have to install shit _to_ cache that
17:35 <@rattle> So, stick Varnish in front of it with a policy to cache everything that doesn't contain a login cookie..
17:35 <@Dagmar> It should have been put together by someone who isn't an idiot in the first place
17:35 <@Dagmar> ...because the majority of this stuff seems to be fixes for stupid decisions that were made before.
17:36 <@Mirage> there should be at least one caching plugin installed in the ITS Drupal instance, unless Kevin disabled it or broke it.
17:36 <@rattle> And with a grace config, so if the site is down, it will continue to serve aged out cached content.  Makes maintenance windows easier..
17:36 < aestetix> speaking of great issues in history
17:36 < aestetix> I finally figured out why my lvm is the wrong size
17:36 <@rattle> There are lots of reasons to push a cache tier in a stack..
17:36 < aestetix> I think I formatted and extended to the wrong drive
17:36 <@Dagmar> Yes, but one of them shouldn't be that the web developers were too fucking stupid to simply generate static pages
17:37 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Oh shit
17:37 <@Mirage> rattle: cache tier doesn't work right when all the web dev's flag their pages for no-cache
17:37 <@rattle> Static pages don't scale either.  At a certain point you hit disk IO thresholds.  Straight kernel cache doesn't work out so hot after a point.
17:37 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Another thing I'd like to stab someone for every time I see
17:38 <@rattle> And yes, I've run into that problem.
17:38 <@Dagmar> rattle: Actually static pages scale just fine by that standard
17:38 <@rattle> Mirage: Yes it does.  Real cache appliances and stuff like varnish have policy defined by acl rules.  You can override anything.
17:38 <@Dagmar> If filesystem cache isn't managing it then there's a whole pile of fancy additional code that's not going to help either.
17:40 <@rattle> Um, that's 100% wrong.
17:40 <@rattle> That's why cache tiers exist, to deal with that problem.
17:40 <@Dagmar> *sigh*
17:41 <@rattle> A ram bus is fast.  Disk, even SSD, is slow.
17:42 <@rattle> Most large environments have their caches que their policy decisions based off cookies or headers that get stripped on the way out.
17:42 <@Dagmar> So you're saying that adding more hardware won't fix the problem, but that adding more hardware will fix the problem
17:42 <@Dagmar> I see Tumblr and a few of the WoW fansites constructing their stuff carefully
17:42 <@rattle> I'm saying that a well architected web stack have several tiers, and they all have their uses.
17:42 <@Dagmar> I see *lots* of other people doing really dumb stuff
17:44 <@Dagmar> _Fantastically_ stupid stuff, actually
17:44 <@rattle> Most people put most of those tiers on one box, and that's fine in many cases.  Breaking up connection brokering and static delivery from code processing is rarely necessary..  But things like database, caching, and load balancing should always be broken off..
17:45 <@Dagmar> If someone's put all those tiers on one box, they're probably just applying bandaids to a sack of sucking chest wounds
17:47 <@Mirage> Dagmar: rattle needs to have Sitemason explained to him...=)
17:47 <@Dagmar> Holy sweet shit yeah
17:47 <@rattle> Typically thing a basic stack for doing anything serious should go like lb -> cache -> lb -> broker/app -> db..
17:47 <@Dagmar> rattle: Honestly man, you wouldn't believe some of the shit we've seen
17:48 <@rattle> I probably wouldn't have..
17:48 <@Dagmar> Sitemason in particular is probably spending 10% of it's disk-IO just writing error_log back to disk
17:48 <@Dagmar> THey're _totally fine_ with this
17:48 <@Dagmar> 'cuz, you know, they accellerated things by using postgres
17:49 <@Dagmar> Mother.  Fucking.  Lunatics.
17:49 <@rattle> I might sound like a loonie..  But when I've architected shit my way, it's never hit a scale issue, and I've hit four-nines, with a high rate of change and development..
17:49 <@Dagmar> You've probably designed it like a person who knows whaht they're doing.
17:49 <@Dagmar> What we're saying is the majority of people singing the praises of various accelleration mechanisms are, upon closer inspection, stark raving mad.
17:50 <@Dagmar> Like, the vualert thing was a very simple proposition
17:50 <@Dagmar> Give ~45,000 people a couple of fucking pages in a hurry
17:50 <@Dagmar> Seriously just spinning that shit off to a pair of static-only servers was a simple, straightforward solution.
17:50 <@Dagmar> It would have taken one fucking afternoon to set up, maybe.
17:51 <@Dagmar> Those crazy fucks are talking about it needing more virtual servers replicated and shit
17:51 <@Dagmar> ...and things like varnish and nginx
17:52 <@Dagmar> It literally just needs the stupidest form of caching imaginable.
17:52 <@Dagmar> They are _still_ unprepared for a repeat of the event.
17:53 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Oh, yes.  As far as we're aware, Nathan and Sean are all there is over there now
17:53 <@Dagmar> I am still waiting for someone to put a couple of fucking zones into the nameservers correctly.  It's been a week.
17:55 <@Dagmar> Anyway, I have to go to the hospital and replace a cacche battery now
17:55 <@Dagmar> At least these vendors are using repurposed cell phone batteries now
17:56 <@rattle> If you've got a VM environment that performs reasonably well..  The only reason a reliable webstack can't be built is because people don't know what the hell their doing.
17:56 <@Dagmar> ...although I am genuinely wondering why anyone would believe this thing in my hand here is 7WH at 3.7V
17:56 <@Dagmar> My guess is that it's got maybe two dozen recharge cycles to it
17:56 <@rattle> While I do prefer hardware load balancers and whatnot..  There are really reliable solutions out there for that stuff..  http://haproxy.1wt.eu/
17:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: HAProxy - The Reliable, High Performance TCP/HTTP Load Balancer (at haproxy.1wt.eu)
17:56 <@Dagmar> "people don't know what the hell they're doing".
17:56 <@wilpig> Dagmar: you are talking nathan casteel right?  that still boggles my mind.  he was help desk -> email -> linux
17:56 <@Dagmar> Exactly.
17:56 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: Oh yes.  This is why I can't get four A records and two zone views deployed properly.
17:57 <@wilpig> and I couldn't get a fucking interview.  apparently it takes exchange experience to get a linux interview?
17:57 <@wilpig> oh wait... I have that too
17:57 <@Dagmar> You didnt't give Scott Hogan a blowjob
17:57 <@wilpig> this is true
17:58 <@Dagmar> Right now what's likely going on is Sean is claiming that Rob and Greg should magically know everything about DiamondIP.
17:58 <@Dagmar> I'm almost certain of it.
17:58 <@Dagmar> Despite the fact that we know those guys can barely manage Infoblox
17:58 <@rattle> VM stuff is my favorite thing that's come of age the past 10 years.
17:58 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm going to come down on someone like the angry hand of God if this shit doesn't work by Wednesday, COB.
17:59 <@wilpig> rattle: strippers are my favorite thing that have come of age the last 10 years
17:59 <@wilpig> followed closely by bourbon
17:59 <@Dagmar> They don't deserve to take credit for running shit, if they are not, in fact, actually running the shit
17:59 < aestetix> rattle: things like ec2 make life very easy for everyone but lawyers and activists
17:59 <@Dagmar> ...and I beleive that DNS is one of the reasons Scott's department still has the phrase 'Core Infrastructure' attached to  it
17:59 <@Dagmar> They need to just go ahead and give it to the people with the manpower available who know what the hell they're doing.
18:00 <@Dagmar> I'll take strippers over Vms.
18:00 <@rattle> wilpig: Sir, I admit you are far more correct than me in your recent statements.
18:00 <@Dagmar> I don't mind lifting servers that much if it means strippers.
18:00  * wilpig tips his hat to rattle 
18:01 <@Dagmar> In fact, I've often said that my life would be much improved if I could just find a nice girl who needs help with her cam site.
18:01 <@wilpig> Dagmar: there is a whole site of them.  myfreecams.com  just start "cold calling" them for service
18:01 <@klixa> Dagmar: go get a prostitute... a troubled hot one and get her into camming instead
18:01 <@klixa> and i am not even joking
18:01 <@Dagmar> I don't "do" pandering.
18:02 <@Dagmar> wilpig: yes, I've seen the site
18:02 <@wilpig> Dagmar: fine.  hire a marketting company to do it for you.  hire some chick, tell her she is in charge of sales and her job is to recruit camwhores
18:02 <@Dagmar> That whole thing is just waiting for a visit from various vice squads
18:02 <@klixa> Dagmar: ok... to me its all the same...but i guess it is worse to be a ho than an exhibitionist
18:02 <@Dagmar> wilpig: I just need one.  Maybe two, sometimes.
18:03 <@Dagmar> I'm not as greedy as Hugh Hefner.
18:04 <@Dagmar> Actually it took me all of tenminutes to find several bugs in their interface.
18:04 <@Dagmar> <-- massive nerd
18:04 <@wilpig> you didn't say what you wanted them for.  My suggestion was a legal business providing support
18:04 <@Dagmar> Dating and possible marriage, of course.
18:05 <@klixa> hehe
18:05 <@Dagmar> So yeah, that's right.  I'm looking at basically a smorgasbord of women of questionable judgment, and I actually spent time seeing if their site interface worked properly.
18:05 <@Dagmar> _First_.
18:06 <@rattle> If you start a cam service provider for camgirls, could you call yourself a Cyberpimp?
18:06 <@klixa> continue...what did you do _Second_
18:06 <@Dagmar> Actually, full disclosure, that was after staring at the screen for 20 minutes going "What the fuck am I looking at" the night someone told me about what that Aella girl was doing
18:06 <@Dagmar> The chick wearing the horse head
18:06 <@Dagmar> With the axe.
18:06 <@klixa> O-O
18:06 <@klixa> what kinda fetish is that!?!?!?
18:07 <@wilpig> Aella girl ?
18:07 <@Dagmar> Oh yes.  It was some really bizarre shit
18:07 <@rattle> I donna, but I'm turned on.
18:07 <@Dagmar> Yeah IIRC her name was Aella
18:07 <@rattle> donno even.
18:07 <@oddball> Horse head and an axe... I didn't think Dagmar went to Frolicon...
18:07 <@Dagmar> She was sort of dancing around nude wearing a horse head mask on her head, with a bear mask on her left arm and a rabbit mask on her right arm, and some kind of axe in her teeth
18:08 <@klixa> hmmm
18:08 <@wilpig> lol
18:08 <@Dagmar> The person who tipped me off refused to tell me what I was going to be looking at, other than I just had to see it to believe it
18:08 <@rattle> The Pope was right.  The Internet is a gift from God.
18:08 <@klixa> i NEED to see thta
18:08 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: Remember me saying I needed to find a streaming recorded for the next timme I see some shit that weird
18:08 <@Dagmar> hehe
18:08 <@klixa> please tell me you recorded it
18:08 <@klixa> please
18:08  * klixa just has to see that
18:09 <@Dagmar> No, I didn't have anything handy to do that with just then
18:09 <@wilpig> I remember you saying you needed somethign to record a stream but I don't think you ever said why
18:09 <@Dagmar> That was why
18:09 <@klixa> :?
18:09 <@klixa> well...i guess i can picture it
18:09 <@Dagmar> I'm just going to spin up xfire's client next time
18:10 <@Dagmar> I mean, if I wind up with a recording of something like that, it's a given i'm going to need to edit it to put a scroll across the bottom reading ...
18:11 <@Dagmar> ..."I really have no explanation for what exactly the hell is going on here" ...
18:11 <@wilpig> "I jerked off to this"
18:11 <@Dagmar> You know, I don't think I could to that
18:11 <@Dagmar> That was just too damn strange
18:12 <@Dagmar> Dude actually accused me of that when I didn't respond for several minute after he gave me the URL and convinced me to pull it up
18:12 <@Dagmar> I'm like "Actually, no, I'm still trying to figure out what sequence of bizarre-ass events led to this being on a stream."
18:12 <@wilpig> are you sure it wasn't me?  cause that really sounds like me
18:12 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure you don't look like that naked
18:13 <@Dagmar> ...and if you gave me the URL you would surely remember seeing this weird shit
18:13 <@Dagmar> I bookmarked that shit and check it about once a week just in case there's something that bizarre going on again
18:14 <@Dagmar> Anyway.  Battery replacement time
18:18 <@wilpig> it's 90 day fiance time.   train wreck..... whooo whooooo
18:18 <@klixa> huh?
18:18 <@klixa> 90 day ...oh a tv show
18:18 <@wilpig> new show that just cracking me up
18:19 <@klixa> http://komercyjna.net/jpg/0476.jpg nsfw
18:19 <@klixa> but now i have an idea of this thing Dagmar mentioned
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19:34 < RangerZ2> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/10/sports/michael-sam-college-football-star-says-he-is-gay-ahead-of-nfl-draft.html?_r=0 glad to see that someone has finally came out
19:35 < RangerZ2> He'll probably end up in Pitt or San Fran, b/c both are pretty liberal orgs, and would love to get him
19:37 <@klixa> RangerZ2: when do you plan to come out
19:38 < RangerZ2> when Corydon76-home has 1,000,000$ for me
19:38 < RangerZ2> yes, I'm a whore, and thats my price
19:38 < RangerZ2> ;)
19:38 <@klixa> :D
19:39 <@wilpig> RangerZ2: at that price you're never gonna leave the lifestyle.
19:39 <@wilpig> you're a forever ho
19:39 <@klixa> im kinda sad today
19:39 <@wilpig> klixa: why?
19:40 <@klixa> wilpig: that guy and his "i dont have enough room to fit your baby in my car" thing
19:40 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ2: My price is a little higher than that
19:40 < RangerZ2> at 1m per time, boy george, would have nothing on me
19:40 <@Corydon76-home> The powerball jackpot would be a good start, though
19:43 <@Dagmar> Sheesh
19:43 <@Dagmar> Yhat was a mes
19:43 <@Dagmar> er that was a mess
19:43 < RangerZ2> what was?
19:43 < RangerZ2> drive home?
19:43 < RangerZ2> 65S was a parking lot
19:44 < RangerZ2> thankfully I just drove over it, not on it
19:44 <@Dagmar> FINDING the damn datacenter in the hospital basement
19:44 < RangerZ2> lol
19:44 < RangerZ2> the hospital DC is in the ....basement...
19:44 < RangerZ2> after the flood....
19:44 < RangerZ2> ....ok...
19:44 <@Dagmar> Yes that was a fun time
19:45 <@klixa> fun fact: if 65s were in LA, it would be called "the 65"
19:46 <@Dagmar> ...because there's lots of already-done ways to read a qr code for one.  :)
19:46 <@Dagmar> wrong chan
19:47 <@klixa> ...hit me harder with that whip
19:47 <@klixa> wrong chan
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19:51 <@klixa> …mmm put that horse mask on and dance
19:51 <@klixa> right chan
19:54 <@Dagmar> You realize of course that if I see this girl doing that again, I will be linking it in here.
19:56  * wilpig fires up klixa's webcam
19:56  * klixa haz black tape over it
19:56 <@wilpig> you aren't gonna get my tips that way
19:56 <@klixa> oh
19:56 <@klixa> :/
19:56 <@wilpig> while you're not making money, can you grab that piece of bourbon apple pie out of the fridge for me and heat it up?
19:56 <@klixa> sure...how much do i need to eat to be drunk
19:56 <@klixa> Dagmar: we'd hope so
19:56 <@wilpig> klixa: do not eat my pie to get drunk.  you can use the bottle in the cabinet for that
19:56 <@klixa> wilpig: oh ok....
19:57  * klixa grabs bottle out of cabinet
19:58  * klixa hands wilpig the heated up pie
19:58 <@Dagmar> http://t.co/AOjhcWMOp2
19:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / HouseofCards: I cant believe Netflix is ... (at t.co)
20:05 <@wilpig> Dagmar: heh
20:07 <@wilpig> klixa: https://www.dropbox.com/s/18mepklelzzvhqe/2014-02-10%2020.06.22.jpg
20:07 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2014-02-10 20.06.22.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
20:08 <@klixa> wilpig: damn that looks good
20:09 <@NotLarry> anyone know how to get into the pleXBMC addon configuration on raspBMC?
20:10 <@wilpig> NotLarry: http://rasplex.com/
20:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: Home - RasPlex (at rasplex.com)
20:11 <@NotLarry> yeah, I was trying to use the addon to xbmc
20:16 <@wilpig> awww damnit!  this is not the toy
20:16 <@wilpig> there are no frenchmen in the toy!
20:17 <@wilpig> bah!   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084809  !=  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074720/
20:17 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Toy (1982) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
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20:27 <@klixa> heh...got invited to keg party just now
20:30 <@NotLarry> I tried to do a kegstand once but no one told me they were going to inject the beer through my nose.  And it didn't get better from there...
20:30 <@Shadow404> klixa: listen to anarchival, men are just out to rape you
20:31 <@klixa> i have never done a keg stand, but i have shotgunned some beers
20:32 <@klixa> and yes, i did get raped afterwards...anarchival speaks truth
20:32 <@klixa> *cough* statutory raped *cough*... my fault tho, i had this habit of lying about my age back then heheeh
20:36 < RangerZ2> klixa: if wilpig's food got you jealous, I'm making this, with rice pilaf
20:36 < RangerZ2> http://www.mccormick.com/Recipes/Main-Dishes/Recipe-Inspirations-Mediterranean-Herb-Crusted-Tilapia
20:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: Recipe Inspirations Mediterranean Herb Crusted Tilapia Recipe | McCormick (at www.mccormick.com)
20:37 < RangerZ2> also, I've never cooked fish other than this, and it works well
20:37 <@klixa> tilapia makes me think of the salton sea/ slab city
20:37 <@klixa> and...wtf you men are all mutants...men arent supposed to cook !!!!
20:38 < RangerZ2> I'm an only child
20:38 < RangerZ2> yes I am
20:38 < RangerZ2> I had to teach my ex to cook
20:38 < RangerZ2> lol
20:38 <@klixa> i cooked my first thing when i was 5
20:39 < RangerZ2> i was like 9 or something
20:39 <@klixa> my mom was asleep...and i surprised her with breakfast in bed
20:39 <@klixa> i made an over medium egg and toast
20:39 < RangerZ2> but i _watched_ cooking always
20:39 <@Dagmar> http://www.wtvf.com/story/24686288/73-year-old-tullahoma-bank-robber-speaks
20:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: 73-Year-Old Tullahoma Bank Robber Speaks - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.wtvf.com)
20:39 <@Dagmar> He sat there _how long_?
20:39 <@klixa> she was all "ZOMG!??!?!? STOVE HOT, HOUSE BURN DOWN, YOU GET HURT"
20:41 <@klixa> i took 8 of them and waited an hour...is my guess
20:41 <@klixa> who he hell wrote that
20:41 <@klixa> ha it been hacked
20:41 <@klixa> has*
20:42 <@Dagmar> No, after the robbery
20:42 <@Dagmar> I guess maybe he stole just $800 and the bank was going to ignore it
20:42 <@klixa> lol
20:42 <@Dagmar> ...cuz an hour and half response time is _bad_, even for Tullahoma.
20:52 <@NotLarry> wtf?  my account on plex is locked?
20:55 <@wilpig> uhhhh...
20:55 <@NotLarry> got it
20:55 <@NotLarry> this version is not recognising my mouse
21:01 <@wilpig> plex doesn't use a mouse
21:01 < aestetix> Interesting
21:01 < aestetix> so when someone likes your facebook post, it is more likely to be shown to otheres?
21:02 <@wilpig> yes if they have their sort set to the default and not most recent
21:02 < aestetix> which most do, probably
21:06 < aestetix> So if I visit a normal webpage that has that facebook plugin, is there a like button on it?
21:06 < aestetix> wondering how that works with it
21:06 < aestetix> (I usually have facebook blocked in my hosts file)
21:07 <@NotLarry> ah
21:07 <@NotLarry> ok
21:08 <@NotLarry> I grabbed a ultra mini keyboard in a shady craigslist deal.  booted up the plexpi, logged in and got my pin and I'm watching the new episode, ty!
21:09 <@klixa> CL is where i sell all the stuff i steal
21:10 <@wilpig> what new episode?
21:10 <@wilpig> oh. true detective
21:11 <@NotLarry> Gonna have to go to bed soon.  Got a 7:30 flight out of here.
21:13 < RangerZ2> good luck
21:13 < RangerZ2> escape the south
21:13 < RangerZ2> unless the winter storm closes vagas airport
21:13 < RangerZ2> now THAT would be funny
21:13 <@NotLarry> Not flying to vegas, thanks though:)
21:14 <@NotLarry> Doing mystery shops on airlines
21:14 < RangerZ2> ?
21:14 < RangerZ2> meaning?
21:16 <@klixa> DAMN
21:17 <@klixa> CL is crazy now...makes you put in you phone # to make an ad
21:17 <@brimstone> google voice, done
21:18 <@brimstone> after the add, trash the number
21:18 <@klixa> can you GET calls on google voice?
21:18 <@klixa> i have only made calls
21:19 <@Dagmar> Yes
21:19 <@klixa> hmm...cool
21:27 <@eryc> what did he ask for
21:28 <@eryc> oops, was lost in scrollback
21:30 < RangerZ2> klixa: yes, if you have chrome, you can even easily make calls from your PC
21:30 < aestetix> vagina
21:30 <@klixa> RangerZ2: the issue was getting them not making them
21:30 <@klixa> i make them all the time...using safari
21:30 < RangerZ2> its what I use from home, since my cell doesn't work in the 'basement' (despite me having a semi-mountaintop view out my back window
21:30 < RangerZ2> and porch
21:30 < RangerZ2> you can get them
21:30 <@klixa> mountaintop view? in nashville?
21:31  * klixa doesnt remember any mountains there
21:31 < RangerZ2> relative
21:31 < RangerZ2> I'm a couple hundred feet above 'average' ground level
21:31 <@klixa> whoa...well dont get dizzy
21:32 <@klixa> :D
21:32 < RangerZ2> i have a 'basement' apt
21:32 < RangerZ2> how could I get dizzy ;)
21:33 <@klixa> ok
21:33 <@klixa> "waiting with facebook open" the 2010's verion of waiting by the phone :/
21:33 <@klixa> version*
21:34 < RangerZ2> 2010(s)' maybe
21:34 < RangerZ2> or the '10s'
21:35 < RangerZ2> but both look silly
21:35 <@klixa> yeah
21:35 <@klixa> point is...im waiting for a boy :/
21:43 < RangerZ2> a boy? for?
21:43 < RangerZ2> a full body massage?
21:44 < RangerZ2> your dishes washed, a nice dinner cooked, with romantic candle light, and some smooth music on in the background
21:44 <@klixa> i was supposed to stay with him...but he moves every month and said theres not enough room in his car for ma baby
21:44 < RangerZ2> fucking rent a car once a month
21:44 < RangerZ2> or w/e
21:44 < RangerZ2> if thats his _real_ reason
21:44 <@klixa> RangerZ2: my god youre a fucking genius
21:45 < RangerZ2> well, yes, but what are you talking about?
21:45 <@klixa> yeah, exactly if thats his _real_ reason
21:45 < RangerZ2> lol
21:45 <@klixa> the fact i dont know him well enough to know is prolly a sign i shoudlnt move in anyway
21:46 < RangerZ2> yes
21:46 < RangerZ2> jesus girl
21:46 <@klixa> well, i have known him since i was 13...but until 2 months ago hadnt seen him in 17 years
21:46 <@klixa> but...yeah, i barely know him
21:48 <@klixa> also, it irks me no matter what; hes either apathetic and cant figure out how to repack...OR hes a liar and cant say "hey i just want you here a few weeks to have fun with then make you leave"
21:48 <@eryc> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=295033667327814
21:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: Comments (at www.facebook.com)
21:49 <@eryc> Dagmar: ^
21:50 <@klixa> RangerZ2: renting a car tho... so perfect
21:51 < RangerZ2> or a uhaul or w/e
21:51 <@klixa> car is cheaper
21:51 < RangerZ2> i don't know how much of -your- stuff you need to move
21:51 < RangerZ2> i'm guessing not much
21:51 < RangerZ2> and a van can carry a -lot-
21:51 <@klixa> im mobile
21:51 <@klixa> i have lived om the road for years
21:51 <@klixa> on*
21:52 <@klixa> im all zen
21:53 <@brimstone> i'm all xen
21:55 < RangerZ2> Corydon76-home is all men
21:55 < RangerZ2> ... leave me alone... brimstone beat me to the xen line...
22:01 < RangerZ2> So I cloned that new Godot game engine, the _entire_ repo is only 68mb on disc, and 61mb of data
22:02 < RangerZ2> kinda impressed, considered cryengine is like 3gb
22:02 < RangerZ2> I'm curious how much of that is sample images/textures/effects/etc in cryengine
22:05 < RangerZ2> Bahhumbug: so i read that link you posted earlier about systemd , whats your problem with it?
22:05 < RangerZ2> (kinda still trying to grasp the issue)
22:06 < RangerZ2> especially since Debian voted http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/02/09/1725229/debian-technical-committee-votes-for-systemd-over-upstart
22:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Debian Technical Committee Votes For Systemd Over Upstart - Slashdot (at linux.slashdot.org)
22:07 < RangerZ2> i get what he says about it, but I lack the reference to compare it to the current, and alternative options
22:07 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: your input , along with anyone else, is appreciated
22:11 < RangerZ2> is 'classic' init methods really that broken? ( I've never really looked into it )
22:11 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I posted about this shit like a week ago on G+
22:12 <@Dagmar> Poettering has painted himself into a fucking corner with that shit
22:12 <@Dagmar> Actually I think I posted about it today as well
22:12 < RangerZ2> << never _looks_ at g+
22:12 < RangerZ2> i'll look
22:12 <@Dagmar> Major warning sign: THat to replace their systemd shit you all but have to reboot
22:12 < RangerZ2> just once? to install it ?
22:13 <@Dagmar> No.  If you need to upgrade it
22:13 <@Dagmar> This guy says it _very_ well http://ewontfix.com/14/
22:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: EWONTFIX - Broken by design: systemd (at ewontfix.com)
22:14 < RangerZ2> eww, ok, i get it, I didn't understand that it didn't only require 'one' reboot once, but yeah... if it ever needs patched... its not good to have to reboot
22:14 <@Dagmar> Poettering posted about fixing a bug in Ubuntu (that was _caused_ by their fucking up) about a week and a half ago without ever seeing just how badly they're fucking up
22:14 < RangerZ2> http://ewontfix.com/14/ was the link i read
22:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: EWONTFIX - Broken by design: systemd (at ewontfix.com)
22:14 <@Dagmar> If you skip ahead to the sectrion on "So how should init be done right?" it's all summed up there.
22:15 <@Dagmar> There's other issues with the way systemd does it as well, according to the way Poettering describes it
22:15 < RangerZ2> yeah i read that, and it made sense, but I wasn't sure how it _really_ impacted things
22:15 <@Dagmar> It's _not_ smart to just try to iterate over a loop until nothing is left
22:16 < RangerZ2> is that what systemd does?
22:16 <@Dagmar> According to Poettering, yes
22:16 < RangerZ2> ohh... yeah... no...
22:17 <@Dagmar> Damn I just crushed a L10 nemesis
22:17 <@Dagmar> Apparently Beelzebub is _soft_ right after he spews bile
22:17 < RangerZ2> yeah, the pure character levels matter a lot more than i realized
22:17 < RangerZ2> i killed 2 and got 1x dex+1 potion
22:22 <@Dagmar> Jesus.  Ringabel just dropped his ass in the fourth round with his special attack and that bow
22:23 <@Dagmar> Well, hell, I guess I'll finish off a third one of this guy
22:24 <@Dagmar> A shame the exp modifiers don't come into play for these fights
22:28 < RangerZ2> yeah
22:32 <@Dagmar> OKay so that was a nice, quick 60jp, 600xp, and 1200pg.
22:33 <@Dagmar> I have a fourth one.  Time to get greedy (after a save)
22:33 <@Dagmar> Imma go for a full brave 1-shot
22:37 <@Dagmar> LOL
22:37 <@Dagmar> Tiz didn't even get to use his Hidden Dragon attacks
22:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah I clearly waited too long to try that guy
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22:41 < aestetix> penis
22:41 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: You need to use the Summon Friend->Send thing, then do Update data.  You're still showing the noobcake attack
22:43 <@Dagmar> ...and you've been playing the Japanese version of this game, haven't you
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22:44 < RangerZ2> no, lol
22:44 < RangerZ2> I wish
22:45 < RangerZ2> I need to start to import some games to work on my japanese
22:45 < RangerZ2> problem is... fucking nintendo consoles are region locked
22:46 <@Dagmar> Hm... I just got two level 56 Nemesis off you named in chicken scratch
22:49 < RangerZ2> ahh, yeah, I've gotten a bunch of random ones from people from the 'update'
22:49 < RangerZ2> so I figured I'd share the love ;) lol
22:50 < RangerZ2> plus the people from homepass on the global ones seem to be japanese heavy
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23:06 < RangerZ2> oddball: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpVmTVFYtAg Watchdogs got delayed for the Wii U, which had a comment "That sucks for Nintendo and its fan."
23:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: GS Daily News - Flappy Bird Drama + Xbox Ones 1080p difficulties explained! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:06 < RangerZ2> lol
23:08 <@oddball> heh
23:09 <@oddball> Wait... most of the X-Box One games aren't 1080p?  Haha.
23:10 < RangerZ2> yeah, cache management is a fucking PITA
23:10 < RangerZ2> adding cache will slow down most code ... until it is optimized for the cache hit/miss ratios
23:10 < RangerZ2> and thats not trivial
23:12 < RangerZ2> i wrote a cache simulator library for my arch class, ended up being easier for me, b/c I took it as honors... so my version had to be adaptable to _all_  configurations  , whereas most people only needed to support a single scenario, but... it was OO code... so once I wrapped my head around the different parts of the code, my code was like 1/3 the size of theirs and I didn't have to manually handle individual edge cases, I could just code
23:14 <@oddball> SO, I guess that's one more reason that I'll go PS4 if I get a new console.
23:26 < RangerZ2> pretty much
23:27 < RangerZ2> the console is vastly superior in all regards, unless you like to watch live TV
23:27 < RangerZ2> through your cable
23:27 < RangerZ2> and skype and tweet and search on bing and see live fantasy football stats
23:27 < RangerZ2> all at once ;) lol
23:28 < RangerZ2> I really liked my PS4, but I sold it because I needed the money for my car
23:29 < RangerZ2> but I'm sure I'll pick another one up at some point, once something exclusive actually hits it, (and infamous, is 'ehh' to me, looks great, but I'm horrible at its combat system)
23:30 < aestetix> man that fart stank
23:35  * aestetix sniffs the air
23:47 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: http://www.redbox.com/games/comingsoon looks like redbox will have SouthPark stick of truth, so thats where I'll be grabbing it
23:47 <@GateKeeper> Title: Video Games Coming Soon to Redbox | Get Upcoming Games for Rent at Redbox (at www.redbox.com)
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