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00:00 <@Corydon76-work> For a person gradually escalating various forms of disobedience, especially when they have a security clearance to all sorts of shit, the logical choice is to send that person home.
00:01 <@Corydon76-work> A dishonorable discharge means you lose all veterans benefits, so it's not like every soldier is going to follow suit.
00:01 <@Dagmar> I mean manning was _clearly_ suicidal
00:02 <@Corydon76-work> Well, self-destructive, even
00:02 <@Dagmar> No, I mean _suicidal_
00:02 <@Dagmar> I think the self-destructive stuff was just sublimation
00:03 <@Corydon76-work> I view the self-destructiveness as a gradual process that would have escalated to suicide if she were not stopped
00:03 <@Corydon76-work> One thing I don't understand is why, after getting leave to come back to the US in the middle of deployment, she didn't just go AWOL.
00:04 <@Corydon76-work> If Iraq was the hell she was desperate to escape, why return at all?
00:05 <@Corydon76-work> It's a rhetorical question.  I don't think anybody but her could answer that.
00:06 <@Dagmar> Because they'll hunt you down eventually
00:07 <@Corydon76-work> But once she turned over the material to Wikileaks, she had to realize they would be coming for her anyway
00:07 <@Dagmar> So all roads lead to capture and arrest
00:07 <@Corydon76-work> She is no idiot.  She's incredibly intelligent.
00:08 <@Dagmar> Considering eating a bullet was nearly on the table, I don't see that mindset doing a lot of fighting
00:08 <@Dagmar> I am not kidding about that phone call
00:08 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah, perhaps
00:08 <@Dagmar> I *would* have picked up the phone and made a call
00:14 < RangerZ1> if a psychologist says its a legit therapy then thats fine, as long as it isn't 'elective'
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00:15 < RangerZ1> but yeah, if they were showing signs that much, then its the CO, and his coworker's fault that he wasn't sent home, or atleast given a break to get counseling
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02:24 < RangerZ1> cooking "dinner" at 1:30am ftw
02:25 < RangerZ1> (also tomorrow's lunch)
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03:40 <@Evilpig> well there is a wrinkle in my plan.  can't seem to find a cab...
03:57 < RangerZ1> for?
03:57 < RangerZ1> to get home?
05:08 <@NotLarry> well now
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06:46 <@NotLarry> ping 10.0.0.3
06:46 <@NotLarry> ok, I think I know why that didn't work
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07:36 <@NotLarry> I'm not adverse to training someone, but when you have been her a year and ask me who to call for a data center in rack temp error, *sigh*
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08:29 < Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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09:13 <@NotLarry> When I tell someone that you can't reset the menu on a projector when the projector will not turn on.
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09:19 <@Shadow404> going on 30 hrs no sleep
09:19 <@Shadow404> finally home after an awesome behind the scenes tour and launch, time for sleep
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09:43 <@NotLarry> So, I have not flown since the 80's.  I wear flipflops and a thong to expedite boarding correct?
09:46 <@opticron> I think a borat mankini is more appropriate
09:47 <@opticron> gotta leave something to the imagination :)
09:47 <@NotLarry> Well, I'm just looking for things I have laying around.
09:47 <@opticron> toga?
09:48 <@NotLarry> ok, searching for an image of my hello kitty thong on the internet did not go well.
09:49 <@NotLarry> I am at work and suddenly Google is not my friend.
09:49 <@Dolemite> which interview you flying to?
09:49 <@NotLarry> Not confirmed yet.  But someone else from Tumblr is calling me this morning and they implied that was what was next.
09:50 <@Dolemite> Ah, gotcha
09:51 <@Dolemite> Heard any more from the one in Vegas?
09:51 <@NotLarry> So, Dolemite, I had my coworker ask me at 4am who to call for a SmartCDU Temp alarm on hill 107-r26a.  I told him to call Wilbur...
09:51 <@NotLarry> Interviewed with them for 2 hours yesterday on skype.
09:52 <@Dolemite> NotLarry: I take it that Houseplant was the one asking.
09:52 <@NotLarry> No one when "ew, what did you say?" so I think it went well.
09:52 <@NotLarry> Nope, Brian.
09:52 <@NotLarry> Houseplant actually has started behaving more like an actual analyst.
09:53 <@NotLarry> or maybe the bar is just moved so far down
09:54 <@Shadow404> screen facebook
09:54 <@Dagmar> How the fuck does he not know to call the datacenter manager?
09:54 <@Shadow404> this is why i dont use the damn thing unless i have to, now they want to remove the privacy preview feature
09:54 <@NotLarry> how about you walk into the datacenter and see where the sensor is misslocated?
09:55 <@Dagmar> Well, it's R26A.
09:55 <@Dagmar> It's likekly not mislocated.  Those fuckers were probably actually doing work
09:55 <@NotLarry> So, watching a twitch.tv stream from Taiwan and they asked me to stop typing in chinese and start using english.  Something about my posts were hurting them deep inside...
09:56 <@NotLarry> probably
09:56 <@Dagmar> The fact of the matter is it was probably a _power consumption_ alarm and he just can't tell the difference
09:56 <@Dagmar> Isn't that the rack that likes to go to 25A on a regular basis?
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10:10 <@NotLarry> maybe
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10:21 <@Dolemite> Sweet.  I've been working with CoolSIM (one of the computational fluid dynamic analysis companies) to be able to export openDCIM data to feed their 3D modeling app...   and they've got a prototype working.
10:25 <@NotLarry> I was looking for something free that would do that.
10:29 <@NotLarry> no 2600 meetings in las vegas?
10:34 < aestetix> ugh
10:34 < aestetix> What is it people who "grow up" and then force their "life lessons" on everyone else
10:35 <@brimstone> learn from my mistakes dammit!
10:35 <@Dickie> Someone should
10:42 <@NotLarry> It is hard to learn from your mistakes.  I keep thinking about that dress...
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10:57 <@NotLarry> another case of someone knowing more about how to do my job better.
10:57 < nachoguy> http://i.imgur.com/GyLKH1c.jpg
10:57 <@NotLarry> If I get out of here without making the news it will be a wonder.
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11:06 <@Evilpig> greetings from Charlotte, NC
11:07 <@NotLarry> PIG!
11:07 <@Evilpig> I'm not near NY anymore.  so many baggy pants
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11:09 <@SuMo_D> you're almost in my neck of the woods
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11:16 <@NotLarry> Seagate Barracude LP 2 5900.  Good or bad?
11:18 <@brimstone> never buy an LP drive
11:18 <@brimstone> ever
11:18 <@brimstone> or a green drive
11:18 <@brimstone> or anything less than 7200 RPMS
11:18 <@Corydon76-work> NotLarry: there was an article that just went out about the MTBF on various drives
11:18 <@brimstone> NotLarry: http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/01/21/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/
11:20 <@NotLarry> ty, reading now
11:20 <@Corydon76-work> brimstone: Looks like the LP drives were ones they recommended, but non-LP drives were crap
11:20 <@brimstone> The drives we absolutely won’t buy are Western Digital 3TB Green drives and Seagate 2TB LP drives.
11:21 <@Corydon76-work> "The Backblaze team has been happy with Seagate Barracuda LP 1.5TB drives. We’ve been running them for a long time – their average age is pushing 4 years. Their overall failure rate isn’t great, but it’s not terrible either."
11:21 <@brimstone> "The Backblaze team has been happy with Seagate Barracuda LP 1.5TB drives"
11:23 <@NotLarry> So the 2tb I'm looking for is no good for full on production
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11:24 <@NotLarry> Still, for $60 on cl it might be ok as a desktop drive.
11:25 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: jesus fuckin' christ
11:25 <@Evilpig> jose kills me man
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11:29 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Yeah, I'm in the process of merging my stuff and his.  Correcting his spelling in the db schema change he added.
11:30 <@Evilpig> I loaded up one page and got this huge stream of errors.
11:31 <@Evilpig> if this wifi doesn't stop being shitty i'm gonna say fuck it til later tonight
11:33 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: did you also notice that you have a .gitignore now?
11:33 <@Dolemite> Was that him?
11:33 <@Evilpig> me
11:34 <@Dolemite> ah
11:34 <@Evilpig> I added it a week or two ago
11:34 <@Dolemite> I had a local .gitignore already
11:34 <@Evilpig> added in shit like the install.err
11:34 <@Dolemite> Noticed that someone had added that...   which means it's now going to be in the distribution :P
11:34 <@Evilpig> shouldn't be.  
11:35 <@Evilpig> my understanding is that it will be ignored
11:37 <@Dolemite> I'll see when I make a distro package again.
11:37 <@Evilpig> I need to finish the js overhaul
11:41 <@Evilpig> can someone tell me why you would do this... https://github.com/samilliken/openDCIM/blob/master/cabnavigator.php#L713
11:41 < GateKeeper> Title: openDCIM/cabnavigator.php at master · samilliken/openDCIM · GitHub (at github.com)
11:41 <@eryc> no
11:41 <@Evilpig> vs just adding to the overall css for img.picture:hover { border: 1p solid red; }
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11:46 <@Mirage> You scared him off!
11:46 <@Evilpig> I was trying
11:57 <@NotLarry> Ok, now we can get down to the real planning.  Current river 2014
11:58 <@Evilpig> https://github.com/samilliken/openDCIM/commit/84055f3a367e722cf76c88842acee872d49ee667
11:58 < GateKeeper> Title: Removed extra JS and added general purpose css definition #342 · 84055f3 · samilliken/openDCIM · GitHub (at github.com)
11:58 <@Evilpig> oh yeah.  that felt good
11:59 <@Evilpig> removed 115 lines and replaced them with 1
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12:22 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: You saw what I posted last night about the Pokemon?
12:27 <@Dagmar> Lindsey was not amused with you.  Heh
12:51 <@the_hugme> I have never worked for a company who had such a huge turnover rate
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13:07 <@SuMo_D> bad pain days = bad
13:08 <@SuMo_D> I had stuff to do this morning... ugh.. instead I'm relegated to laying down trying not to puke and complaining on irc.... drag
13:09 <@SuMo_D> I guess everyone is at lunch, usually there's some sort of interesting, distracting whatevers going on in here
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13:21 <@SuMo_D> mmm vortex
13:22 <@SuMo_D> I was sweating a minute ago... I hope I don't have a f'n fever... I think its just the everything...
13:22 <@Dagmar> Probably just the polonium kicking in
13:22 <@SuMo_D> I wanted to work in the garage this morning... but maybe too cold for it anyway
13:24 <@SuMo_D> its something kickin'....
13:25 <@SuMo_D> who impregnated me with nano bots in my sleep... I know it was one of you fess up
13:25 <@klixa> Is it a baby? They kick...hard
13:25 <@SuMo_D> nah, no chance of babies here...
13:25 <@klixa> I type too slow
13:26 <@SuMo_D> but from what you were telling me about the contractions you had, it feels kinda like that...
13:27 <@SuMo_D> nanobots.... or aliens.... gotta be
13:27 <@klixa> I always refered to my baby as the parasite
13:27 <@klixa> so many people had an issue with that for some reason
13:28 <@SuMo_D> lol I had a friend, who was so freaked out by babies... he was like... it gets inside, eats from you then bursts out and cries and runs around  how is that not nuts!
13:28 <@klixa> I was freaked out
13:29 <@SuMo_D> yeah, I can't imagine
13:29 <@SuMo_D> little person in there o_O
13:29 <@klixa> We'll lots of stuff can go wrong
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13:29 <@klixa> Tho nothing did
13:30 <@SuMo_D> yea for that!
13:30 <@SuMo_D> :D
13:30 <@SuMo_D> I donna babies man... I can't even... I'm good with kids 2+ under that I'm like ummm.... I don't want to break it
13:31 <@klixa> I didn't think if ever have any
13:31 <@klixa> I wasn't supposed to be able too
13:31 <@klixa> Then I quit smoking and bam
13:32 <@SuMo_D> I'm getting more comfortable with it, my neighbor has a 9month old who is super sweet, and I don't feel is that breakable... but now she's preggers again... and I'm like.. o_O - the first few months I was like she's so tiny!
13:32 <@SuMo_D> well there you go
13:32 <@klixa> I'd like 4 kids
13:32 <@klixa> But I'm 35 already so I think my first May be my last
13:32 <@SuMo_D> mom always thinks that if I do enough alternative treatments something will magically heal itself... and yeah... who knows... I've known a lot of women who have had kids that supposedly couldn't
13:33 <@klixa> Plus I don't have a father lined up etc
13:33 <@SuMo_D> would have to solve this PAIN that at the moment is making me nauseated and takes physical relationships off the table thing first... and yeah... that other thing
13:34 <@SuMo_D> there seem to be a lot of nice guys in the south though, at least they try...
13:34 <@klixa> Do you take pain pills
13:34 <@SuMo_D> no
13:34 <@klixa> There's nice guys everywhere... Men are awesome
13:35 <@SuMo_D> I took an advil earlier... I guess that counts
13:35 <@SuMo_D> but generally no
13:35 <@klixa> I <3 men
13:35 <@SuMo_D> me too :)
13:35 <@SuMo_D> <3 guys
13:35 <@klixa> Lol
13:35 <@SuMo_D> the pain pills generally have side effects that make the underlying pain causes worse... so I feel better for like an hour, then it comes back doubly bad
13:36 <@klixa> That sux
13:36 <@SuMo_D> sometimes advil can calm the nerve stuff down a bit without having too much of the other stuff
13:36 < aestetix> vagina
13:36 <@klixa> Brb going inside to laptop
13:36 <@SuMo_D> yeah... it does.. but could be worse
13:36 <@SuMo_D> aestetix!
13:36 < aestetix> hi
13:36  * SuMo_D hugs the vagina loving man
13:36 < aestetix> I didn't do it
13:36 < aestetix> wait what
13:36 < aestetix> no I'm supposed to hug dolemite
13:37 <@SuMo_D> just haven't seen you for a bit
13:37 < aestetix> ah ok
13:37 < aestetix> I guess I've been busy this week
13:37 <@SuMo_D> were you summoned by our yea we love mens conversation?
13:37 < aestetix> man
13:37 < aestetix> please tell me this
13:37 < aestetix> when a discussion about possibly adopting a harssment policy comes up
13:38 < aestetix> WHY do people insist on bringing up their personal lives and threatening to quit if they don't get their way
13:38 <@SuMo_D> cause people are emotional
13:38 <@SuMo_D> and some aren't as good at separating business from personal
13:38 < aestetix> so what is this about loving men
13:39 <@SuMo_D> ^
13:39 <@SuMo_D> klixa and I just were agreeing we like dudes
13:41 <@SuMo_D> so what have you been up to this week aestetix ?
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13:43 < aestetix> I will sum up my week with three words
13:43 < aestetix> I. Hate. databases.
13:43 < aestetix> And specifically databases that take forever to do maintenance on
13:44 <@SuMo_D> does not sound fun
13:44 <@Dagmar> So.... all of them, then.
13:44 <@rattle> SQL like a pig!  SQL like a pig!
13:44 < aestetix> god
13:44 <@SuMo_D> lol exactly what I was thinking rattle
13:44 < aestetix> like how our database backup script suddenly decided to forget how to save the metadata files
13:45 <@SuMo_D> no bueno
13:45 < aestetix> which means we have this huge glob of data and no guide for it to know where the tables are
13:46 <@Dagmar> So.. whose idea was it to not use mysqldump?
13:46 < aestetix> Dagmar: I use xtrabackup
13:46 < aestetix> mysqldump doesn't work after your db hits beyond 100 gigs in size
13:46 <@Dagmar> Sure it will
13:46 < aestetix> I mean, it does, if you have 12 hours to kill
13:46 <@Dagmar> It just won't fucking happen quickly.
13:47 < aestetix> heh
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13:49 < aestetix> SuMo_D: I do mean to revise that video
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13:49 <@SuMo_D> I know you do, you're a doer, and you'll do it when you have time
13:50 < aestetix> shit don't pin that label on me
13:50 <@SuMo_D> lol
13:50 <@SuMo_D> well then quit doing shit
13:50 <@SuMo_D> I'll find a different adj for you
13:51 < aestetix> otherwise I might show up to phreaknic with a nixon mask signed by ellsberg
13:51 <@SuMo_D> that's be fun :)
13:51 <@SuMo_D> wb klixa
13:51 <@SuMo_D> drag dmolnar and his lady friend too
13:52 < aestetix> I saw ellsberg speak last night
13:52 < aestetix> I do not know how he brings out all the berkley wingnuts
13:53 <@SuMo_D> lol
13:53 < aestetix> many of whom are still living in the 60s
13:53 < aestetix> I got like three big flyers from the Berkley Communist party
13:54 <@SuMo_D> well.. he's one of their heroes right?
13:54 < aestetix> yes
13:54 <@SuMo_D> awww I miss the Cambridge communists..... I think I still have one of the cultural revolution was a good thing in China pamphlets around here somewhere
13:55 <@SuMo_D> that was a fun conversation about REALLY????? and PROPOGANDA
13:55 <@SuMo_D> sorry I seem to be in caps mode today... blame the pain...
13:55 < aestetix> well let me put it this way
13:55 < aestetix> it was held in a unitarian church
13:56 <@SuMo_D> it seems to be lessening... but still not enough to get me away from the comp and actually work on the laser cutter like I wanted... ugh....
13:56 < aestetix> and one of the pastors opened it by mentioning some things about what the church does
13:56 < aestetix> and this one bitch in the front row, she must have been like 70.... every time he said the word "god" she shouted "stop!"
13:56 <@SuMo_D> lol
13:57 <@SuMo_D> the unitarians are fine with atheists... they just think everyone is on a path, even paths that deny a G-d path are welcome
13:57 <@SuMo_D> but yeah I can believe it lol shit like that makes me miss Seattle...
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13:59 <@klixa> i just wasnt meant to have coffee today... went off the road earlier..spilled entire cup... go to get more...and fall on way inside and spill all coffee...
14:00 <@SuMo_D> awwww
14:00 <@SuMo_D> yeah, those days happen... and suck... horribly
14:01 <@SuMo_D> sorry dude
14:01 <@klixa> lol
14:01 <@klixa> im about to get a 3rd cup of coffee... *fingers crossed*
14:01 <@klixa> i must point out tho...that although i slid off the road because of ice...the worst part was spilling my coffee...
14:02 <@klixa> some people who did that had actul wrecks and inuries and stuff
14:02 <@SuMo_D> coffee works better than pain pills for me... for whatever reason it helps whatever presses on the scar tissue/nerve damage bullshit whatevers... and makes it calm down... I think I need another cup... the 2nd one helped immensly
14:02 <@SuMo_D> I can like... move more  now
14:02 <@SuMo_D> and yeah dude! be careful! ice... ack!
14:03 <@klixa> caffeine shrinks blood vessels
14:03 <@klixa> i use it for sinus headaches
14:03 <@klixa> stimulants in general
14:03 <@SuMo_D> yeah, I think its that and something to do with peristalsis - I was on a feeding tube for 5 months
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14:04 <@SuMo_D> wb lol
14:04 <@klixa> now my net is actin gup
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14:04 <@SuMo_D> I was like.. well I'll tell her later lol
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14:08 <@klixa> k..switched to ethernet
14:08 <@SuMo_D> cool
14:08 < aestetix> so many emails :/
14:09 <@klixa> aestetix: first world problems
14:09 < aestetix> klixa: agreed
14:09 <@klixa> i have a first world problem too...my macbook's wifi icon has vanished
14:09 < aestetix> That doesn't make them any less real to me :)
14:09 < aestetix> But yes, I have heat and a working toilet
14:10 <@SuMo_D> but yeah klixa I think its something with the blood vessels and peristalsis, cause at one point my body forgot how to digest food from being on the tube so long, so now sometimes it still has problems
14:10 < aestetix> (and yes, I've been to the mountain villages in west virginia where they have neither)
14:10 <@Corydon76-work> Anybody else seeing problems with Google services?
14:10 < aestetix> yes
14:10 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: one of my email systems jut went out
14:10 <@SuMo_D> aestetix I'm sure they have those closer to home in some of the south bay hippie communes
14:11 < aestetix> haha
14:11 <@Corydon76-work> Both email and product forums are down for me
14:11 <@klixa> aestetix: you are the only regular in here who is not an op...whats up with that
14:11 <@klixa> do they not like you
14:11 < aestetix> I forgot to identify
14:11 <@Corydon76-work> klixa: he refuses to confirm his identity
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14:11 <@klixa> oh
14:11 <@aestetix> lol
14:12 <@Corydon76-work> You have to identify to obtain privileges.  Hostmasks aren't reliable.
14:12 <@klixa> SuMo_D: what exactly happened? i have heard bits and pieces...something about cancer..?
14:12 <@SuMo_D> RangerZ1 isn't either... but I'm guessing he's off being productive
14:13 <@SuMo_D> yeah I thought I told you last night on PM, cancer... leukemia, really aggressive, stem cell transplant, transplant complications that about covers it
14:14 <@klixa> you told me cancer.... but didnt go into it...
14:14 <@klixa> so i assume you are in remission now?
14:14 <@SuMo_D> but I'm doing awesome now! most of the time... just yeah... have problems... after effects from the treatments are a bitch plus since it was stem cell, its a weird balance, and yes remission! :D
14:17 <@klixa> glad you are doing better now... my father had cancer
14:17 <@SuMo_D> but yeah have had more pain and complications post remission than I ever had from cancer... but yeah they said get a transplant in 6 months or... yeah.. no
14:17 <@SuMo_D> yeah, sorry to hear that... cancer is a biotech
14:17 <@klixa> what kinda transplant?
14:17 <@SuMo_D> stem cell
14:17 <@klixa> dont be srry, he was old and lived a great life...
14:17 <@klixa> he was 83
14:17 <@klixa> but thanks
14:18 <@SuMo_D> basically they eradicate your bone marrow, and replace your immune system with somebody else's
14:18 <@Corydon76-work> "Cancer is a biotech" <-- nice autocorrect.
14:18 <@SuMo_D> lol
14:18 <@klixa> hehe i didnt even notice
14:18 <@SuMo_D> I gotta turn that thing off
14:18 <@klixa> my brain re-autocorrected it
14:18 <@SuMo_D> biotch
14:18 <@rattle> THE CLOUD IS FALLING!!!  THE CLOUD IS FALLING!!!!!
14:18 <@rattle> RUN!!!!
14:19 <@klixa> from now on...thats what i am claling people... "stfu biotech" :D
14:19 <@SuMo_D> oh noes? the google cloud?
14:19 <@Corydon76-work> rattle: It's just my email.  No biggie.
14:19 <@SuMo_D> there you go!
14:19 <@aestetix> so happy I don't use gmail
14:19 <@klixa> i use gmail
14:19 <@klixa> and icloud
14:20 <@Corydon76-work> It's... just... email... why are we panicking?
14:20 <@SuMo_D> its funny aestetix actually helped with the bone marrow/stem cell drive at noisebridge before he ever interacted with me... and now here we are :)
14:20 <@aestetix> klixa: I don't trust any "cloud" services.
14:20 <@klixa> aestetix: i dont NEED to trust anything
14:20 <@brimstone> my emails up
14:20 <@aestetix> I use dropbox for things I already plan to make public
14:21 <@klixa> i have no use for privacy...i dont even have a bank account...
14:21 <@SuMo_D> did you guys see there's a new competitor to dropbox that is marketing it as we're "super secure"
14:21 <@Corydon76-work> brimstone: could be a regional thing, I suppose
14:21 <@SuMo_D> I forget the name
14:21 <@klixa> i use mega sometimes
14:21 <@Corydon76-work> SuMo_D: they also don't specify how they're secure, which means it's a shaky claim
14:22 <@aestetix> I don't trust anyone who says they are super secure
14:22 <@SuMo_D> yeah... marketing
14:22 <@SuMo_D> lol
14:22 <@aestetix> unless I am able to upload my own encrypted stuff
14:22 <@aestetix> in which case I can still use dropbox
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14:22 <@SuMo_D> its kinda like waving a red flag at some virtual bulls too isn't it?
14:23 <@aestetix> lol
14:23 <@aestetix> well
14:23 <@aestetix> when anyone says "we're secure"
14:23 <@aestetix> demand to see the code
14:23 <@aestetix> if they refuse to show you
14:23 <@aestetix> it's bullshit
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14:23 <@aestetix> The other thing I always ask, is who did their third party security audit
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14:24 <@SuMo_D> good advice
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14:24 <@aestetix> I mean
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14:24 <@aestetix> I don't actually care about looking at the code
14:24 <@aestetix> I care that they are willing to show it to me
14:25 <@SuMo_D> yep
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14:25 <@aestetix> oh wow hahahhaha
14:25 <@Corydon76-work> That also assumes that what they show you is what they're running
14:25 <@aestetix> Google+ is down
14:26 <@aestetix> which means youtube comments aren't down
14:26 <@aestetix> aren't working*
14:26 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: true. It's easier to do that with a program you can download, when you can compile the code and compare the checksums
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14:28 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: or when they permit you to run your own cloud service with the code they allow you to see
14:29 <@Corydon76-work> For example, something like OpenStack
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14:30 <@aestetix> yep
14:30 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: mozilla persona claims to be heading in that direction
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14:35 < RangerZ> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/07/satanists-unveil-design-for-statehouse-statue/comment-page-37/ and on the 8th day Satan said: let their be a nice statue for kids to sit on my lap, so they can sit and contemplate.
14:35 <@klixa> lmfao
14:36 <@aestetix> god
14:36 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: how long did level 102 take you
14:37 <@Mirage> RangerZ: Those statues are in McD's playgrounds aren't they?
14:38 <@Mirage> RangerZ: they don't need a new onw.
14:38 <@Mirage> er, one
14:40  * benthemeek sees there was some such discussion on Unitarian churches while I wasn't paying attention...
14:40 <@benthemeek> You know if you have been to one Unitarian Church... You've been to one Unitarian church.
14:41 <@benthemeek> The one here in murfreesboro I attend is like 40 percent Athiests, 40 percent Pagans, and 20 percent other (mostly eastern with a few progressive christians thrown in the mix
14:41 <@SuMo_D> aestetix I can't remember a few days?
14:42 <@SuMo_D> Also yea! whatever it was that got everything cramped up into fukitol pain has passed
14:42  * SuMo_D happy dance happy dance
14:42 <@Corydon76-work> SuMo_D: the missing comma makes all the difference.
14:42 <@SuMo_D> lol
14:42 <@SuMo_D> or does it...
14:43 <@Corydon76-work> If you can't remember a few days, you might want to get a brain scan
14:43 <@SuMo_D> eh... got several of those
14:43 <@SuMo_D> which reminds me... I found some more CDs with more scan photos I was going to play with
14:43 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: what's the biggest dick you've ever seen?
14:44 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: in person or in pictures?
14:44  * benthemeek raises eyebrows
14:44 <@aestetix> Oooh. Both.
14:44 <@klixa> no...in person
14:44 <@Corydon76-work> In person, 10
14:44 <@klixa> picsa dobt cooubt
14:44 <@Corydon76-work> In pictures, I'm pretty sure that dick was Photoshopped...
14:44 <@klixa> pics dont count*
14:44 <@aestetix> 10 inches?
14:44 <@aestetix> was he black
14:44 <@Corydon76-work> No, Italian
14:44 <@klixa> i have seen a 10 inch irl white
14:45 <@Corydon76-work> Italian-American
14:45 <@klixa> i asked a ton of questions
14:45 <@Corydon76-work> Those things are pretty to look at, but I'm not going to mess with it.
14:46 <@anarchival> Turkey Rockefeller. Mmmm. https://www.livingsocial.com/deals/1008263-18-to-spend-on-food-and-drink?utm_campaign=digest_citywide&utm_content=28&utm_medium=email&utm_source=blast
14:46 < GateKeeper> Title: $18 to Spend on Food and Drink - Cafe Coco Deals - Williamson / Rutherford Counties, TN (at www.livingsocial.com)
14:46 <@anarchival> Of course there are only about two of you who actually live in Nashville, so everyone else can just ignore that link.
14:47 <@klixa> man i havent been there in forver
14:47 <@klixa> or dragon park
14:47 <@klixa> hog heaven...
14:47 <@anarchival> klixa: I haven't been to Dragon Park since I was six years old. I don't really understand why tourists believe it's such a destination.
14:48 <@klixa> anarchival: as a teen its where we went to get drunk/high
14:48 <@klixa> at night
14:48 <@anarchival> Hipsters, probably. Them and they're fucking irony...
14:48 <@klixa> after going to lucy'';s
14:48 <@anarchival> klixa: Ah, that explains it. I've never been into drugs.
14:48 <@klixa> im not anymore
14:49 <@anarchival> klixa: Well I would hope you took a break during the pregnancy.
14:49 <@SuMo_D> you guys should do a visitors guide for PN attendees... wilpig gave me a bunch of good suggestions... and then I forgot them all
14:49  * benthemeek wonders if there are portals at dragon park
14:49 <@Corydon76-work> Ah, yes, Dragon Park.  I went there, because there were guys there I wanted to fuck.
14:49 <@anarchival> SuMo-D: I'll make you a guide. I can even give you the official tour of the Parthenon if you want it.
14:49 <@Corydon76-work> benthemeek: probably.  The official name is Fannie Mae Dees or something like that
14:49 <@anarchival> SuMo_D: Athena is the patron goddess of hackers and makers, after all.
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14:50 <@Corydon76-work> The reason it's called Dragon Park is that there's a sculpture of a dragon there
14:50 <@klixa> i have never been to the ryman or grand old opry
14:50 <@klixa> lol
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14:50 <@benthemeek> So this may not be rare as I think it is, but we actually have 3 present females on channel and not afk?
14:50 <@SuMo_D> that was the one place I sorta remembered he recommended...
14:50 <@benthemeek> Should we buy lottery tickets?
14:50 <@Corydon76-work> I've been to both, although never for country music
14:50 <@anarchival> The Ryman is one of the best music venues in the country, acoustically speaking.
14:50 <@anarchival> I'd skip the Grand Ole Opry unless you're just a huge country music fan.
14:51 <@anarchival> Unless it's at the Ryman, then that might be cool.
14:51 <@klixa> when i was in nashville recently i didnt do anything
14:51 <@Corydon76-work> There are other concerts at the GOO building
14:51 <@klixa> i got sick...and hung out at my brothers house for over a week
14:51 <@anarchival> The LDS Prophet once came to speak at the Grand Ole Opry. That was pretty funny.
14:51 <@Corydon76-work> If you DO go to the Ryman, I STRONGLY recommend that you bring a seat cushion
14:51 <@klixa> i got to visit some family and friends...but not all the ones i wanted to
14:52 <@anarchival> Actually he should have spoken at the Ryman, since its acoustics are almost as good as the Mormon Tabernacle.
14:52 <@Corydon76-work> Old fashioned pews just aren't that comfortable for long periods of time
14:52 <@aestetix> anarchival: I'd be far more interested in an LSD propet
14:52 <@SuMo_D> you didn't meet him at talk last night aestetix?
14:52 <@anarchival> aestetix: Hahahaha you've seen Star Trek hahahaha.
14:52 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: I've been to a concert full of gay artists at the GOO
14:53 <@aestetix> haha
14:53 <@anarchival> it's 2pm let's go eat lunch!
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15:02 <@aestetix> HAHAHAHAH
15:02 <@aestetix> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1w1y5m/we_are_the_google_site_reliability_engineering/
15:02 < GateKeeper> Title: We are the Google Site Reliability Engineering team. Ask us Anything! : IAmA (at www.reddit.com)
15:03 <@aestetix> this was going on when Gmail went down
15:04 <@Mirage> If anyone is interested, O'Reilly is doing a "buy two get one free" on books right now.
15:04 <@Mirage> And orders over $29 get free regular shipping
15:05 <@Corydon76-work> Mirage: If you use code DSUG, you can get 35% your entire order any day.
15:06 <@Corydon76-work> which is actually better than a BOGO offer
15:07 <@Corydon76-work> DSUG is the User Group code
15:07 <@Mirage> That's about what I got with the code I used for the BOGO.  It was posted on their main page.
15:08 <@Corydon76-work> I mainly buy stuff when they offer 50% off ebooks
15:09 <@Mirage> The paperbacks I wanted were flagged as "Print on Demand", according to Barnes and Noble.  They asked if I wanted to go ahead and order them, I told them if I had to order them that I'd rather go to the publisher.
15:09 <@Mirage> I wound up ordering the books and the e-books (pdf) both.
15:10 <@Dagmar> Mirage: HAHA!  I used vSphere to spin up a cloned VM without shutting down the internet
15:11 <@Mirage> HOly shit!
15:11 <@Dagmar> Looks like ITS was wrong about just how dangerous it is to use vSphere
15:11 <@Dagmar> Also, fuck Scott Hogan.
15:11 <@Dagmar> Hell, let's have another one of those
15:11 <@Dagmar> Fuck Scott Hogan.
15:12 <@Dagmar> Mediocrity-worshipping little PHB fucktard.
15:13 <@Mirage> the EAI virtual environment still being managed by the windows guys?
15:14 <@Dagmar> No, it's more like the fact that I was never actually allowed to do anything more than use vSphere to use the virtual consoles at ITS
15:14 <@Dagmar> ...and despite me complaining about it, just two months after you left I asked Hogan point blank why I was never given any rights in vSphere.
15:15 <@Dagmar> THEN he tells me it was because he'd "embraced the Sharepoint request model"
15:15 <@Dagmar> ...and if I wanted to have anything done, I'd have to submit a request through Sharepoint and have it approved.  EVEN IN THE TEST ENVIRONMENT.
15:15 <@Mirage> I told him point blank when I was leaving that you needed to have the same access that I did, since I was leaving/
15:15 <@Dagmar> Yes, but that would have required Hogan actually treating me like an adult
15:16 <@Dagmar> ...but since I was on his "not an asskisser list" I got treated like he does everyone else with skill... As if I were mildly retarded.
15:16 <@Dagmar> Third verse, Fuck Scott Hogan.
15:16 <@Dagmar> Particularly because I'd been bitching about it for _months_ and he didn't actually feel the need to do anything more than leave me in the dark until I asked him _directly_ in front of a bunch of people.
15:16 <@Dagmar> Fuuuuuck him
15:17 <@Dagmar> The good news is that should Zafar lose his mind and try to put Hogan over us now... myself and about oh... eight other people are going to quit, on the spot
15:17 <@Dagmar> He can be chief master of nothing fuckin' much
15:18 <@Dagmar> He'd better fucking pray _every night_ that he never gets to hear exactly how I feel about the way he treated us
15:18 <@Dagmar> That language will scorch his very soul to ashes.
15:19 <@Dagmar> The first five minutes will probably require a tape recorder and a research team to discover that I am actually constructing full sentences, and not merely creating a blistering tapestry of obscene glossolalia
15:20 <@Mirage> or speaking in tongues
15:21 <@Dagmar> glossolalia
15:22 <@Dagmar> So.... apparenrly two more Es work in this building now
15:22 <@Dagmar> Also, SpiralShot... who has been working in this building for awhile
15:22 <@Dagmar> I gotta give him props for being tolerant.  :)
15:22 <@Dagmar> The last week I've put a turret on the portal which is right smack in the middle of the building
15:22 <@Dagmar> Not realizing that any time he turned on his client... *ZAP*
15:23 <@Dagmar> I'll have to apologize to him for that.  Once would be funny.
15:23 <@Dagmar> Five days in a row is a bit much.  lol
15:28 <@Dagmar> I'mma go down and see these two new people in a bit
15:29 <@Dagmar> Holy shit 26F
15:29 <@Dagmar> It'a a MOTHAFUCKING HEAT WAVE up in heah
15:29 <@SuMo_D> did you guys get snow?
15:29 <@Dagmar> Hell no
15:30 <@Dagmar> We don't have single-digit temperatures here for *snow*
15:30 <@Dagmar> That would take the edge off the terrifying nature of it being so cold
15:30 <@Dagmar> No one would be able to tell that basically, the atmosphere is turning solid and falling to the ground like we're on fuckin Io or something
15:31 <@SuMo_D> lol
15:31 <@Corydon76-work> Half of the amusement of this channel is getting to listen to people like Dagmar rant about something.
15:31 <@SuMo_D> agreed
15:31 <@Dagmar> At least we _feel things_
15:32 <@Corydon76-work> I need to get back on the drugs that prevent that reaction in me.
15:32 <@Dagmar> ...and definitely not people, because that would probably get us in trouble with the anti-harassment people
15:32 <@Dickie> I don't identify as human
15:33 <@Corydon76-work> Good ol' SNRI drugs
15:33 <@Dagmar> I need to find out how far along we are on the medical marijuanas
15:34 <@Corydon76-work> CCA is going to squash that effort dead, I have no doubt
15:34 <@Corydon76-work> Pot smokers are gold for them
15:34 <@Dagmar> We shall see
15:34 <@Dagmar> ...because a whole lot of house members apparenrly voted for it
15:34 <@Corydon76-work> Lots of warm bodies that don't make trouble.  They love inmates like that.
15:35 <@Dagmar> ...and the CCA can't afford to compete with the likes of Tax Money From Pot In East Tennessee
15:35 <@Corydon76-work> Eh, it's the difference between money now and potential money later
15:35 <@Dagmar> No, it's the difference between money now and a SHITTON of money later
15:36 <@Corydon76-work> Mind you, I agree with decriminalization.  There are just entrenched interests who want to stop it.
15:36 <@Dagmar> Tobacco money is big shit here
15:37 <@Dagmar> ...and weed money is even bigger, even though it all has to be kept hidden
15:37 <@Corydon76-work> Who knows, maybe CCA's lobbyists are all off fighting decriminalization in other states, and they're missing out while they lose their home field
15:38 <@Dagmar> Could be they're busy trying to subvert a group of potheads into terrorists
15:38 <@klixa> tl;dr X verse Fuck Scott Hogan...
15:38 <@Dagmar> ...not realizing the fundamental flaw in trying to get a bunch of potheads to do anything much more complex than smoke a bunch of pot
15:38 <@Dagmar> klixa: You know the man?
15:39 <@klixa> Dagmar: no...i just saw a bunch of "fuck scott higan's" in my scrollback
15:39 <@Dagmar> klixa: Trust me the hate is warranted
15:39 <@klixa> i believe you
15:39 <@Dagmar> He was treating Mirage and I like our admin skills were something we'd gotten from a freak accident a few months ago or something
15:40 <@Dagmar> Despite teh fact that together we've got about 40 years of experience
15:40 <@Dagmar> One of those dipshits who can't actually comprehend that other people could possibly know a whole lot about anything
15:42 <@klixa> most people who actually know things and are smart are treated like crap by people :/
15:42 <@Dagmar> Hence why I'd like to jump up and down on Scott Hogan until my socks are soaked through with gore.
15:42 <@Dagmar> ...but I understand such behaviour is considered seeming uncivilized.
15:43 <@Dagmar> ...therefore I would never *so* such a thing, but there's nothing stopping me from thinking about it while I touch myself.
15:43 <@klixa> then do the civilised thing and sign him up for free bibles and prank call him...
15:45 <@aestetix> ok google has outdone themselves
15:45 <@aestetix> http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/24/gmail-glitch-is-causing-thousands-of-emails-to-be-sent-to-one-mans-hotmail-account/
15:45 <@aestetix> I just verified it
15:45 <@Dagmar> o.O
15:45  * klixa is afraid to see Dagmar's "touch himself" material after his comment
15:47 <@Dagmar> aestetix: How to replicate?
15:47 <@Dagmar> They must have changed it
15:48 <@SuMo_D> ha oh the interwebs you are so funny when you fail
15:48 <@aestetix> Dagmar: go to google and search for "gmail"
15:48 <@aestetix> then mouseover thatl ink
15:48 <@klixa> man, my nbeck and shoulders are stiff form my *fall*... :/ i think maybe spilling my coffee wasnt the worst part
15:49 <@Dagmar> aestetix: It's working correctly over here
15:49 <@aestetix> interesting
15:49 <@Dagmar> Oh hell
15:49 <@Dagmar> http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/17/facesubstitute-is-the-coolest-and-creepiest-thing-youll-see-this-week/?source=gravity
15:50 <@Dagmar> This will be abuuuuuused
15:50 <@SuMo_D> awww that sucks klixa - maybe try some heat?
15:50 <@aestetix> I'm getting the thing with the email addres
15:50 <@SuMo_D> wet towel in the microwave for 20-30 seconds kicks ass
15:50 <@klixa> cant have to go get some contracts printed and then drive on the coe some more
15:50 <@klixa> bye
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15:51 <@Mirage> klixa: short of death, nothing is worse than spilling your coffee
15:51 <@Mirage> bah
15:51 <@Dagmar> Spilling your weed
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15:51 <@Mirage> no 420 for me
15:54 <@Evilpig> https://github.com/samilliken/openDCIM/commit/054c3342bf796964818773c8d321e7cab194f6bd#diff-b8ff49522848fe489d0c34d0c990bf43R110
15:54 < GateKeeper> Title: Found where the menu was being munged and fixed that. · 054c334 · samilliken/openDCIM · GitHub (at github.com)
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15:55 <@Evilpig> I swear.  dolemite is gonna get printf() tattooed on his fucking forehead
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16:04 <@anarchival> I bet David S. Peck pissed off some geek in Fresno, and is paying the price: http://www.leasingnews.org/Classified/Resumes/Peck_david.pdf
16:04 <@anarchival> Wells Fargo? YOU WILL BE MADE AN EXAMPLE OF, SIR.
16:05 <@anarchival> Or it could be totally random. That's possible, too.
16:06 <@Dagmar> So would it be bad of me to SMS a guy I know at Gmail asking what David Peck ever did to him?  :)
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16:14 <@Evilpig> alright.  I am not seeing a difference in these functions.  damnit
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16:23 <@aestetix> every
16:23 <@aestetix> email
16:23 <@aestetix> list
16:23 <@aestetix> has
16:23 <@aestetix> drama
16:23 <@aestetix> ugh
16:24 <@anarchival> aestetix: When I worked for the government, I observed how governments primarily exist to give the crazies something to do with their day.
16:24 <@anarchival> aestetix: The Internet works in much the same way.
16:25 <@rattle> The Internet has more cats.
16:26 <@anarchival> rattle: Sure, but cats are psychopaths, so same difference.
16:27 <@aestetix> pretty much
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16:36 <@klixa> SuMo_D: Ha this time I lost my coffee...
16:42 <@Mirage> klixa: maybe you should give up on the coffee if you can't handle it responsibly?
16:43 <@Evilpig> haha
16:43 <@klixa> :/. Lol
16:49 <@anarchival> I think I'm going to get back on Usenet.
16:49 <@anarchival> I'm back on IRC, so why not?
16:49 <@Mirage> don't forget to set /b as your homepage
16:50 <@klixa> Yeah...share the love...don't use it all here
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16:55 <@Evilpig> hrmmm. /b/ you say
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16:57 <@klixa> Evilpig: How was your flight and way too early train trip?
16:58 <@Evilpig> not bad.  early.  the wind outside penn station was rough
16:58 <@Evilpig> cold as fuck
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16:59 <@Evilpig> fuckin' jose.  I swear this guy baffles me
17:22 <@Evilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USRF4JA-eEU
17:22 < GateKeeper> Title: Silencerco Sparrow Suppressor - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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17:37 <@SuMo_D> klixa no! no losing coffee!
17:38 <@SuMo_D> well I was feeling better, so I setup the new exhaust pipe for the laser and did some tests... etched some metal and got some better settings down for paper... so I'm feeling a lot happier :D
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17:39 <@SuMo_D> same stuff I wanted to do earlier... just... delayed
17:40 <@klixak> cool
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17:43 <@SuMo_D> I'm like ETCH ALL THE THINGS now
17:43 <@SuMo_D> I need to work on some badass designs for such things...
17:44 <@SuMo_D> the first one I ran on the paper I forgot to set the power setting lower and accidentally ran it 100/100 - there were flames...
17:44 <@SuMo_D> as much as I love flames.... I love lasers more... and laser + flames... eh... no bueno
17:45 <@SuMo_D> but the new exhaust system seems to be bangin' cleared out the smoke pretty quick
17:46 <@klixa> thats good; what kindastuff do you etch
17:49 <@aestetix> penis
17:49 <@klixa> ack http://tinyurl.com/ksmdmpa
17:50 <@SuMo_D> I just the logo of the person I'm consulting for right now
17:50 <@SuMo_D> but I want to do some more fun stuff with art..
17:50 <@SuMo_D> oh! which reminds me I was going to try glass today too
17:57 <@aestetix> ballsack
17:58  * klixa gives aestetix attention
17:58 <@aestetix> great!
17:58 <@aestetix> ... what do I do with it?
17:58 <@klixa> whatever you want
18:00 <@eryc> vagina
18:01 -!- eryc was kicked from #se2600 by aestetix [you sexist pig]
18:02 < RangerZ1> ...
18:02 < RangerZ1> anyways
18:02 < RangerZ1> "wow" i forgot you had to install flash as a stand alone program with other browsers...
18:02 <@aestetix> I wonder if that hurt his feelings
18:02 < RangerZ1> actually, its hard to tell you got kicked often
18:03 < RangerZ1> if you are only glancing at the screen
18:03 <@aestetix> heh
18:03 <@klixa> lol
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18:04 < aestetix> see there is a reason for this
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18:04  * aestetix mutters "thank you jesus"
18:04  * aestetix deops self again
18:05 <@eryc> vaginal secretions
18:05 <@Corydon76-work> Male cum tastes better.
18:06 < aestetix> what do you call an italian woman with a yeast infection
18:07 < aestetix> a whopper with cheese
18:07 <@eryc> heh
18:11 <@klixa> Corydon76-work: you think cum tastes better ? i dont
18:11 < aestetix> depends on what the guy has been eating
18:11 <@klixa> even objectively cum is worse...it has the same stuff a dead body has in it
18:12  * klixa forgets what it was called
18:13 <@klixa> aestetix: that only affects the superficial flavor
18:13 <@klixa> it will always have a bitter after taste
18:13 < nachoguy> water tastes like fish fuck in it
18:14 <@klixa> ya know...maybe the person who told me the thing about dead people/semen was wrong...i can find no supporting data
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18:35 < aestetix> ugh
18:36 < aestetix> my personal priority task list keeps changing faster than a hooker on dollar day
18:40 < RangerZ1> food = 31, sleep = 37, touching yourself in private = 41, touching yourself in public = 57,
18:40 < RangerZ1> something like that?
18:41 <@anarchival> Tonight's To Do List: 1) go to the grocery, 2) cook dinner, 3) subscribe to Usenet, 4) fix sophrinix's old Roomba.
18:41 <@anarchival> Friday Fun Night!
18:42 <@anarchival> Oh, and 5) cuddle in bed with a heating bad and a BDD book.
18:42 < aestetix> Hm
18:42 < aestetix> It seems that Magnus Carlsen is becoming a new Bobby Fisher
18:42 <@anarchival> s/pad/bad
18:43 <@anarchival> Fuck. Strike that, reverse it.
18:43 <@anarchival> I need a drink.
18:45 <@anarchival> aestetix: Awww, he's cute. But I'm not getting the sense he's very into dating.
18:47 <@Dagmar> Jesus
18:47 <@Dagmar> Man I dunno about this one customer
18:48 <@Dagmar> They're using some drupal thing that uses subdomains to separate content.. .and they're wanting SSL involved.
18:48 <@Dagmar> I don't think they've really looked at what a wildcard cert costs before.
18:52 <@anarchival> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NwnSltHFo
18:52 < GateKeeper> Title: Skavlan: Magnus Carlsen VS Bill Gates - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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19:24 < RangerZ1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOtcgpJJV1o ohh yeah... because that is what WoW needs
19:24 < GateKeeper> Title: IGN News - WoW Updated Human Female Model Shown Off - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
19:25 <@Dagmar> Have you seen how knobbly the dwarves are?  Very dwarfy.  :)
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19:25 <@eryc> http://imgur.com/eOcEY9A
19:25 < GateKeeper> Title: Girls response to a friends death. - Imgur (at imgur.com)
19:26 < RangerZ1> nice...
19:26 <@Dagmar> Classy
19:27 <@Dagmar> oops.  gotta skate
19:28 <@eryc> Dagmar: you can get a cheap wildcard for like $199
19:30 < RangerZ1> does it only work on ab* ?
19:30 <@SuMo_D> eryc I don't even know how to respond to that
19:30 < RangerZ1> your subdomains all have to start with ab?
19:30 <@SuMo_D> Its just.... what?
19:31 < RangerZ1> wildcard = a type of stripper
19:31 < aestetix> http://www.feministjobs.blogspot.com/
19:31 < GateKeeper> Title: Feminist Job Board (at www.feministjobs.blogspot.com)
19:31 <@Dagmar> Actually someone showed me a palce I could do it for $149, but this is fucking Vanderbilt.
19:31 < RangerZ1> she'll only take off part of her dress, but you never know which part each nihgt
19:31 < RangerZ1> lol
19:31 <@Dagmar> THey only buy the most expensive shit GeoTrust sells
19:31 <@Dagmar> ...and they buy two of them.
19:31 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/Jobs4Feminists is causing drama
19:31 < GateKeeper> Title: Feminist Job Board (Jobs4Feminists) on Twitter (at twitter.com)
19:31 < RangerZ1> SuMo_D: they are talking about wildcard SSL certs
19:32 <@Dagmar> ...because why the fuck would we ever want to save fifty grand a year... to pay employees?  Hell no
19:32 <@Dagmar> FUCK SCOTT HOGAN
19:32 <@SuMo_D> I was talking about the dead dick sucker thing
19:32 < aestetix> Dagmar: is he cute?
19:32 < RangerZ1> ohh
19:32 < RangerZ1> no, Corydon76-work wouldn't touch him with your dick
19:33 < RangerZ1> aestetix: is that a 'real' feminist job posting?
19:33 < RangerZ1> or a troll?
19:33 < RangerZ1> ohh feminist.org
19:33 < RangerZ1> either best troll ever...
19:37 <@klixa> feminst and troll are the same thing
19:37 < RangerZ1> WTG google+ keeping/putting/stealth putting my ex in my "family" circle
19:40 < RangerZ1> Feminists aren't trolls... troll feminists are trolls
19:40 < aestetix> wait
19:40 < aestetix> they did taht without your consent?
19:40 < RangerZ1> i have no idea
19:40 < RangerZ1> i just saw she was in there
19:40 < RangerZ1> her and my mom
19:40 < RangerZ1> and i was like wtf
19:41 <@eryc> http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/its-friday-dgaf-18.jpg?w=499
19:42 < RangerZ1> heh
19:42 <@klixa> RangerZ1: i have yet to meet one who is not a troll
19:43 <@SuMo_D> eh... "feminist" is an odd term these days... it started out with the right intent towards equality... but yeah, mutated somewhere
19:43  * RangerZ1 resists joke about coming to se2600 meeting to meet tons of guys who love women
19:43 <@SuMo_D> I prefer pro woman...
19:44  * klixa looks at RangerZ1 's joke then looks at SuMo_D and winks
19:44 <@SuMo_D> lol
19:44 <@SuMo_D> well we did establish earlier we love men klixa
19:44 <@SuMo_D> :P
19:44 < aestetix> penises are tools of the oppressors
19:45  * RangerZ1 snickers to myself, and doesn't mention someone else, lol
19:45 < RangerZ1> aestetix: damn straight... i'm tired of women using our dicks against us
19:46 <@klixa> hahah
19:46 <@SuMo_D> they can be... and vaginas have been used to make many a man do a dumb thing... its a people problem not a genital problem
19:47 <@SuMo_D> the problematic thing comes in when one uses the other aggressively to dominate... which yeah... history says penis is in the lead there.
19:47 <@klixa> testosterone is what makes them dominate
19:47 <@klixa> man..from being pregnant...i *get* the submissive feminine thing
19:47 <@klixa> pregnant women have the same amount of estorgen as a normal woman has in a month
19:47 <@klixa> and it causes brain fog and the desire to dress girly and wear  makeup
19:47 <@klixa> and i didnt read a single book...etc
19:48 <@klixa> i was a difefrent person
19:48 <@SuMo_D> yeah... that's why I hated the pill... made me nuts
19:48 <@SuMo_D>  really nuts
19:48 <@klixa> im still not fully recoverd.,,i cry when i see babies and stuff
19:48 <@klixa> i spend all my time thinking about the cutest baby bottle and onesies to buy
19:48 < RangerZ1> SuMo_D goes as far to wear a dress, it was really scary
19:48 <@SuMo_D> but testosterone doesn't cause rape
19:48 <@klixa> no, it doesnt
19:49 < RangerZ1> klixa: she's a girl
19:49 <@klixa> RangerZ1: i know
19:49 <@klixa> we had a metting last night and talked about it
19:49 < RangerZ1> give it until she is 13
19:49 < RangerZ1> then you'll hate her, until she is 22
19:49 <@klixa> oh i thought you were teling me SuMo_D was a girl
19:49 <@klixa> nm
19:50 <@klixa> im not gonna be one of those daughter hating mothers
19:51 < RangerZ1> "sure"
19:51 < RangerZ1> i didn't say you wouldn't love her
19:51 < RangerZ1> just that you'd want to kill her
19:52 < RangerZ1> NotLarry has the same problem with women of all age... but thankfully his is under control
19:52 < RangerZ1> http://instantrimshot.com/
19:52 < GateKeeper> Title: Welcome to Instant Rimshot (at instantrimshot.com)
19:54 <@klixa> RangerZ1: my mom and i got along fine those years
19:55 <@klixa> which is fortunate cause she died when i was 20
19:57 <@SuMo_D> :( that sucks
19:57 <@anarchival> Yeah, my Mom and I have always been really close.
19:57 <@anarchival> But then we've been in the trenches together.
19:57 < RangerZ1> sorry to hear that
19:57 <@SuMo_D> and yeah quit relying on stereotypes RangerZ1 everybody is different
19:57 <@klixa> thanks RangerZ1 and SuMo_D
19:57 <@anarchival> Our personalities couldn't be any different, though, so like a lot of relationships it's been work.
19:58 <@anarchival> Pro Tip: Don't reproduce with someone you hate.
19:58 <@anarchival> Chances are your children will inherit a significant number of their characteristics from that person.
19:59 <@klixa> my mom and i were almost complete opposites...im laid back, optimistic, ...i do have her sarcasm tho...she was impatuent and cynical
19:59 <@anarchival> Dudes especially have a tendency to spend less effort honestly evaluating their mates than they do choosing a motorcycle, for example.
19:59 <@anarchival> It's probably an internal monologue problem.
20:00 <@klixa> my baby daddy has nice jeans
20:00 <@klixa> genes*
20:00 <@anarchival> It's difficult to get to know women as people when your mind is a never-ending stream of "pussy pussy pussy."
20:00 < RangerZ1> jeans too
20:00 <@klixa> RangerZ1: yes, but only cause i picked them out
20:00 < RangerZ1> klixa: has a thing for a guy in tight jeans
20:00 < RangerZ1> lol
20:00 <@klixa> anarchival: not all men are that way
20:01 <@anarchival> klixa: Well-spotted.
20:01 <@klixa> also...men have 2 modes...sex mode and "love" (or whatever you wanna call it) mode
20:01 <@Dagmar> This is true.  Some men are gay.
20:01 <@anarchival> klixa: In my experience, most men are that way, particularly around a certain age.
20:01 <@klixa> not all women are the result of the internal "zomg pussy" monologue
20:01 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: ++
20:01 <@SuMo_D> yeah... who is relying on stereotypes now? come on now...
20:02 <@anarchival> klixa: I was in my twenties before I realized that men feel emotions like love.
20:02 < RangerZ1> SuMo_D: but the thing is... guys don't care about that stereotype, lol, we fully admit its true
20:02 <@anarchival> klixa: That's probably because my Dad is a sociopath.
20:02 <@SuMo_D> yet.... it doesn't always prove to be true...
20:02 <@Dagmar> If they're still in their teens tho, it's probably safer to assume that most of what's in their head is about pussy, if they're straight
20:02 <@klixa> anarchival: my first real bf was when i was 17...he finally lost hisvirginity when he got married a few years ago at 33
20:02 <@Dagmar> That doesn't go away until the late 20's
20:02 <@Dagmar> ...for most.
20:02 <@klixa> i thought he was a freak of nature
20:02 < RangerZ1> no, its not always true, my little cousin had a ton of female friends who he never went after
20:02 <@klixa> gay
20:03 < RangerZ1> then he turned 19 and realized he was gay
20:03 <@Dagmar> lol
20:03 <@klixa> told you
20:03 <@anarchival> klixa: yes, we've already established that you think people who don't have unsatisfying sexual relationships in their teens and early twenties are freaks.
20:03 <@Dagmar> I had a few/
20:03 <@Dagmar> A _few_
20:03 <@klixa> anarchival: did we?
20:03 <@anarchival> klixa: Yep. You've made that statement several times now.
20:03 <@klixa> anarchival: no i havent
20:03 <@Dagmar> For the most part I paid attention in college so there were more wild successes than anything else
20:04 <@anarchival> klixa: Okay.
20:04 <@klixa> but waiting til one's 30's is freakshow-esque
20:04 <@Dagmar> Well, after about 25 it tends to carry a momentum of it's own
20:04 <@anarchival> klixa: It's not, really. It's statistically less likely but still a significant number of the population do it.
20:05 <@Dagmar> "Wait, they're 25 and they still haven't... They'll have no idea what they're doing.  No thanks."
20:05 <@anarchival> klixa: Frankly I probably would have done it a lot sooner, but I was under the misapprehension that I wanted to mate with a member of my tribe.
20:05 <@Dagmar> o.O
20:05 <@anarchival> Unfortunately, hacker boys don't find me attractive.
20:05 <@Dagmar> Oh THAT kind of tribe
20:05 <@anarchival> So, I had to wait until I was horny enough to settle for someone I wasn't attracted to.
20:06 <@klixa> anarchival: yeah.. i have had the same issue... geeks dont like me... but atheltic types have...and preps..its weird
20:06 <@anarchival> I've pretty much given up on sex now since I consider it a terrible waste of time and certainly not worth the trouble...
20:06 <@anarchival> but maybe someday I'll fuck someone I find tempting.
20:06 <@anarchival> klixa: Yep. My first guy was an ex baseball pitcher.
20:06 <@klixa> well in my early 20's anyway... i havent been single until recently since i was 17
20:07 <@anarchival> klixa: Sure, but you've had other partners besides your husband, with your husband.
20:07 <@klixa> now...im single but not single... we're not together but live together...its complicated
20:07 <@klixa> anarchival: no, i havent...i said he wnats to
20:07 <@klixa> i havent gone along with it
20:07 <@anarchival> klixa: Ah. You've told us a couple anecdotes where you'd slept with other women and men.
20:08 <@klixa> that was before him...
20:08 <@anarchival> klixa: Okay.
20:08 < aestetix> anarchival: I'm sure if you go to PhreakNIC you can get laid
20:08 <@anarchival> aestetix: I've been to PN several times. Nope.
20:08 < aestetix> anarchival: you might have to be direct with some of them
20:09 <@klixa> as a female you can get laid walking outside
20:09 <@klixa> getting a bf/partner is whats hard
20:09 <@anarchival> aestetix: Yeah, I'm not really seeing anyone around 2600 I'm aching to fuck, thanks.
20:09 <@klixa> k, imma hang out with my baby
20:09 <@SuMo_D> bye klixa
20:09 <@SuMo_D> hugs to da baby :)
20:09 < aestetix> anarchival: I mean it might require grabbing a guy's dick and saying "put this in me now"
20:10 <@anarchival> aestetix: If the hacker boys wanted some free and clear sex from me, they missed the window.
20:10 <@anarchival> brb
20:10 < aestetix> uh
20:11 < aestetix> anarchival: maybe you could sugggest anal sex
20:11 < aestetix> It works for Corydon76-work
20:12 < RangerZ1> or a rubber suit, it works for Shadow404
20:13 < RangerZ1> or just ask a guy out for valentines day
20:15 < RangerZ1> b/c the guy would go with any female(or guy, depending on your/their own preferences) if they are single , and hell... likely even pay to be gentlemanly
20:15 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: Uh, sure, it does.
20:15 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: btw, have you ever met anyone with a prolapsed rectum fetish?
20:16 <@Corydon76-work> If that actually worked, I would never have had any boyfriends, just a steady stream of virgin boys
20:16 <@Corydon76-work> I'm not even sure I even want to know what that is
20:17 < RangerZ1> is that where it comes out anus?
20:17 < RangerZ1> like an 'outtie' belly button, lol
20:18 < RangerZ1> (helping the ex study anatomy has its odd trivia points)
20:18 < aestetix> lemme find you a video
20:18 <@anarchival> aestetix: You make an excellent point. It's not lost on me how much success gay men have flirting in this group. It also explains why so many of the guys are a never-ending stream of chauvinist babble. The closeted are often more insistent than straight guys, because they feel they have to be.
20:18 < aestetix> http://www.chronicle.su/news/new-form-of-anal-sex-invented nsfw
20:18 <@Corydon76-work> Oddly, I've met guys who will kiss but won't do anal, and I've met guys who will do anal, but don't kiss.
20:19 <@anarchival> RangerZ1: I don't ask guys out. I'm old-fashioned that way.
20:19 < aestetix> anarchival: you should watch that too
20:19 <@anarchival> aestetix: Not for love or money.
20:20 <@anarchival> aestetix: If I don't want to have vaginal sex, which I enjoy, why would I want to have anal sex, which I only fake enjoying?
20:20 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: None of the guys I've ever succeeded with from this group were all that chauvinist
20:20 <@Corydon76-work> So if some were closeted, they were way deep in there
20:20 < RangerZ1> *shrugs* i've been asked , and done the asking out, honestly I'm in favor of females being more proactive about starting the courtship
20:20 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Most gay men know how to treat women, if for no other reason than they understand what it's like to be disrespected and don't care to pass it on.
20:21 < RangerZ1> there are some interesting studies about how if during speed dating, if women are the ones that have to get up and change seats, that they 'like' the guys like 2~3x more often
20:21 <@Corydon76-work> Yep, I understand that
20:21 <@anarchival> RangerZ1: Yeah, I bet. Apparently the secret is to initiate the sex too, to the point of teaching dudes where to put it.
20:21 <@anarchival> I couldn't think of a more satisfying encounter.
20:22  * anarchival is really not that desperate. Really. She can go without, thanks.
20:22 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: half the times I've had sex with a woman, she was on top
20:22 < RangerZ1> you lazy SOB
20:22 < RangerZ1> lol
20:22 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Meh.
20:23 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ1: one of them literally would not let me sleep
20:23 < RangerZ1> lol... yeah... I know that feeling, I have a friend who we were 'more' for a while, and she was like that
20:24 <@Corydon76-work> Of course, I've also had guys like that.  Knew how to rub their asses to make me erect even when I was tired and wanted to sleep, then hopped right back on...
20:24 < RangerZ1> and she was a masseuse, so she fought dirty , lol ^
20:25 <@anarchival> aestetix: You still there, or are you fapping to IRC?
20:28 <@Dagmar> Corydon: The fire meme is awesome
20:29 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: No idea what you're talking about.
20:29 <@Dagmar> "Victim gets revenge on rapist by setting him on ire"
20:29 <@Dagmar> er fire
20:30 <@Corydon76-work> Oh, yes, that was hilarious
20:30 <@Corydon76-work> For those who haven't seen it:  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=577862838972556&set=a.235443076547869.53510.233968183362025&type=1
20:30 < GateKeeper> Title: Content Not Found (at www.facebook.com)
20:31 <@benthemeek> Corydon76-work: Thats pretty awesome
20:31 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: You just pointed me to Facebook. To Facebook!
20:32 < RangerZ1> yeah, thats great
20:32 < RangerZ1> https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/q71/s720x720/1545941_577862838972556_974361218_n.jpg
20:32 < RangerZ1> so that you don't have to log in
20:33 <@benthemeek> The propensity we humans have for blaming victims is simply astonishing.
20:33 < RangerZ1> i hope she(or he>) gets away with him
20:33 < RangerZ1> away with it*
20:33 <@benthemeek> We all want karma to be real, poor people deserve to be poor and women deserve to be raped *smh*
20:34 <@Dagmar> Flammable people deserve to be set on fire.
20:34 <@Corydon76-work> I need to get back in the kitchen.  Pizza dough is ready to be rolled out.
20:35  * RangerZ1 jealous, I want home made pizza
20:35 <@anarchival> Twice...no, THREE times today. I love you, Internet.
20:35 <@anarchival> I'm making baja cheese and crackers even as I type.
20:37 <@benthemeek> gah! I hate configuring sendmail
20:37 <@benthemeek> its so obscure
20:37 <@Dagmar> THen you are doing it wrong.
20:37 <@benthemeek> I am sur eI am
20:37 <@Dagmar> Follow the instructions, and put together the little seven or eight line mc file
20:38 <@benthemeek> A tiny little 7 or 8 line file would be fantastic
20:38 <@Dagmar> You're not expected to create a configuration like you're weaving a rug
20:38 <@benthemeek> im picking up the peices from someone else's install and wondering just what is broken
20:38 <@Dagmar> You're expected to put togther the configuration as basically a cut and paste operation of half a dozen lines of m4
20:38 <@Dagmar> THey probably tried to recycle a cf file from elsewhere
20:40 <@benthemeek> Yeah I think that is exactly what happened
20:40 <@Dagmar> Yeah discard that
20:40 <@benthemeek> Mail coming to it is getting mailfrom malformed error
20:40 <@Dagmar> THe docs that come with sendmail are a bit windy, but pay attenion when they get to the part about constructing your initial mc file
20:41 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: i fyou want it to be idiot proof.  webmin
20:41 <@benthemeek> and a tcpdump doesnt show anything particurly that I can see is malformed
20:41 <@Dagmar> There's literally only about seven lines you have to paste togethre
20:41 <@benthemeek> How is the visit going Evilpig?
20:41  * RangerZ1 has a feeling benthemeek would love a copy of those 7 lines, lol
20:41 <@Evilpig> just fine.  my sister is about ready for me to leave again
20:42 <@benthemeek> sisters are great like that
20:42 < RangerZ1> did you belly flop onto their bed while they were still sleeping ... again?
20:42 <@benthemeek> When mine comes to visit I am ready for her to go home almost immeadiatly
20:42 <@Evilpig> RangerZ1: no, but that's a good idea
20:44 < RangerZ1> I had a friend who used to do that to his wife
20:44 < RangerZ1> they had a waterbed
20:44 < RangerZ1> he'd come home at like 3am, and do it and rock her almost out of bed
20:44 < RangerZ1> then one day, she moved the bed.... and he jumped... and landed flat on his face, where the bed _should_ have been ;)
20:45 < RangerZ1> and I don't know why I said his, etc... she was my friend/ the one to tell the story... lol
20:45 < RangerZ1> probably because ....I just imagined doing it enough times, LOL
20:45 <@benthemeek> w00t!
20:45 <@benthemeek> mail is flowing again
20:46 <@Evilpig> lies
20:46 <@Evilpig> you just think it is
20:51 <@Shadow404> http://www.snsweather.com:81/NasaSocialTDRSL/index.htm
20:51 < GateKeeper> Title: TDRS-L NASA Social 01/23/2014 (at www.snsweather.com:81)
20:51 <@Shadow404> the gallery for my pics from the social
20:51 <@benthemeek> Shadow404: That wasnt near enough sleep dude
20:51 <@Shadow404> got 6 hrs so far
20:51 <@benthemeek> You must be caffenated
20:52 <@Shadow404> 48hrs nonstop bad idea....
20:52 < RangerZ1> Shadow404: its nasa
20:52 < RangerZ1> they recommend a mid day nap
20:52 < RangerZ1> ;)
20:53 <@Shadow404> true, but we didnt ever get time
20:53 <@benthemeek> Is it the capr?
20:53 <@benthemeek> cape*
20:53 <@Shadow404> yep
20:53 < RangerZ1> thats cool
20:53 <@Shadow404> one sec
20:53 <@Shadow404> restarting the web server
20:54 <@Shadow404> ok, its fixed
20:54 <@Shadow404> needed to fix the 404 page
20:55 <@Shadow404> yeah, since we got security background checks beforehand we got some amazing access to areas
20:56 <@Shadow404> they dont give regular tours of the crawler and we were about 1.5 mi closer to the launch then the paid launch viewers were
20:57 <@Shadow404> back to sleep, later
21:04 <@Evilpig> okay so i'm back looking at this code and I swear jose is just all over the place
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21:19 <@anarchival> Do any of you use Giganews?
21:19 <@anarchival> I'm signing up, and I can refer a username.
21:22 <@klixa> please please please refer me...  what's giganews?
21:22 <@Dagmar> Usenet
21:24 < RangerZ1> anyone have any good software design books they recommend?
21:24 <@anarchival> klixa: I'm signing up with this username. I'm looking to give someone else credit who's already on there.
21:24 <@klixa> how sweet and thoughtfiul of you
21:25 <@anarchival> klixa: I'm made of sugar and spice and all things nice.
21:27 <@klixa> bbl
21:28 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ1: give me a bit more advance notice (like a couple years, so I can get this place cleaned up, and I'll make you some homemade pizza.
21:29 < RangerZ1> lol
21:29 < RangerZ1> put some bleach in a bucket then a stick of dynamite
21:29 < RangerZ1> and put in center of kitchen
21:29 < RangerZ1> lol
21:29 < RangerZ1> Mr. Bean style of painting or cleaning
21:29 <@Corydon76-work> Oh, it's not just the kitchen...
21:30 <@Corydon76-work> The bird throws his leftovers everywhere
21:31 <@Corydon76-work> In some ways, I wish I still had a house rabbit, because those suckers eat EVERYTHING
21:31 <@Corydon76-work> Unfortunately, everything also includes dog food, which is why I don't have a house rabbit anymore.
21:32 <@anarchival> RangerZ1: Have you pursued the Software Architecture section of https://github.com/Nashville2600/free-programming-books
21:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Nashville2600/free-programming-books · GitHub (at github.com)
21:32 <@anarchival> RangerZ1: I'm going to go with Joe Armstrong's PhD thesis, but then I'm an Erlang fangirl.
21:33 < RangerZ1> I've read a bunch of them and have a ton of stuff to read still, so I was just wondering about non-academic sources, that people have read, et
21:34 <@anarchival> RangerZ1: Well, this is a classic: http://www.amazon.com/Design-Patterns-Elements-Reusable-Object-Oriented/dp/0201633612/
21:34 < RangerZ1> yeah i have it
21:34 <@anarchival> Also this: http://www.amazon.com/Code-Complete-Practical-Handbook-Construction/dp/0735619670/ref=pd_sim_b_2
21:34 <@anarchival> and this: http://www.amazon.com/The-Pragmatic-Programmer-Journeyman-Master/dp/020161622X/ref=pd_sim_b_3
21:35 <@anarchival> If you've consumed those three books, then you should sally forth and write some software.
21:35 < RangerZ1> 2 of the 3
21:36 <@anarchival> klixa: http://www.giganews.com/usenet-university/
21:36 < GateKeeper> Title: Newsgroup Tutorial Walkthrough Series - Giganews Usenet University (at www.giganews.com)
21:41 < aestetix> vagina
21:41 <@Corydon76-work> http://pando.com/2014/01/23/the-techtopus-how-silicon-valleys-most-celebrated-ceos-conspired-to-drive-down-100000-tech-engineers-wages/
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21:43 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ1: it's a thick crust, and the cheese is bubbling
21:44 < RangerZ1> you're going to burn in hell you know that
21:44 < RangerZ1> and not for being gay
21:45 <@Evilpig> bah!  I knew this was gonna be a problem.  https://github.com/samilliken/openDCIM/issues/342#issuecomment-33279185
21:45 < GateKeeper> Title: Graphical cabnavigator · Issue #342 · samilliken/openDCIM · GitHub (at github.com)
21:45 < RangerZ1> why are you writing JS by hand?
21:45 < RangerZ1> I've meant to ask, have you tried any of the 'tools' ?
21:45 <@Evilpig> the js on that isn't the point
21:46 <@Evilpig> jose applied a transform rotate to an image and IE just shititself
21:46 <@Evilpig> same problem I had with the PN site and rotating images
21:46 < RangerZ1> EEE
21:47 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ1: I'm trying a new topping today... sun-dried tomatoes
21:48 <@SuMo_D> mmm sun-dried tomatoes are so tasty
21:48 <@SuMo_D> they haven't agreed with me lately... but they're still delicious
21:48 <@Corydon76-work> Peaches won't eat any from that pizza, so there will definitely be leftovers
21:49 <@anarchival> It wasn't my plan to eat the entire tin of mini blueberry scones tonight, but it seems to be going that way.
21:49 <@anarchival> "scones"
21:49 < RangerZ1> holy shit there are so many CSS frameworks...
21:49 <@anarchival> If these were real scones, even mini ones, the first would have sat in my stomach like a rock for three days, eliminating the need for any further nourishment.
21:50 <@benthemeek> anarchival: You are eating fake scones? :)
21:50 < aestetix> anarchival: what do you think of enemas?
21:50 <@anarchival> RangerZ1: Asking "what's your favorite CSS framework?" is like asking "What's your favorite Linux distro?" Wars have been fought over lesser conflicts.
21:50 <@benthemeek> aestetix: What do you think of weird awkward questions?
21:50 < aestetix> benthemeek: they are a turn on
21:51 <@benthemeek> ah well then... carry on
21:51 <@anarchival> aestetix: Not what I'd consider dinner time conversation.
21:51 <@benthemeek> :)
21:51 <@Corydon76-work> He's attempting to sense boundaries.  Fake yours.
21:51 <@Evilpig> scones aren't dinner
21:51 < aestetix> I was just curious
21:52 <@anarchival>  Corydon76-work: I don't have boundaries. My father is a sociopath, remember? I don't even feel shame.
21:52 < aestetix> good to know!
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21:52 <@anarchival> aestetix: Yes, men love that about me when I'm naked and positively loath it the rest of the time.
21:52 < RangerZ1> aestetix: well we know how your room-mate for PN is
21:52 <@benthemeek> aestetix has a running profile on everyone here and that just got added to yours... well done
21:53 <@anarchival> Evilpig: I do what I want.
21:53 <@anarchival> benthemeek: We haven't even started my psychological profile yet.
21:54 < aestetix> anarchival: so, what is it not ok to ask you about?
21:54 <@eryc> the incest incident
21:54 <@anarchival> benthemeek: I was reducing psychologists to tears before I was even in middle school.
21:55 <@anarchival>  aestetix: You can ask me anything you want. It's a free country. I reserve the right to set you on fire if I don't like it. Or, you know. Lie.
21:55 <@eryc> RangerZ1: what are these JS tools you speak of
21:55 <@Evilpig> I like where this is going
21:55 < RangerZ1> apparently
21:55  * Evilpig pours gas on aestetix 
21:55 < RangerZ1> eryc: i figured that there 'was' some
21:56 < aestetix> so much for boundaries
21:56 < aestetix> anarchival: what's the strangest toy you've ever masturbated with?
21:57 <@anarchival>  aestetix: a man's penis.
21:57 < aestetix> Was he still attached to it?
21:57 <@anarchival>  aestetix: No.
21:57 <@benthemeek> Im hoping this is the lieing part she mentioned
21:58 <@benthemeek> or is it lying?
21:58 <@eryc> both in this case
22:00 <@Evilpig> fuckin' weather
22:00 <@Evilpig> they are calling for snow here tomorrow
22:00 <@Evilpig> could fuckup my maker's mark plans
22:02 < aestetix> anarchival: would you let a girl fuck you with a strap-on?
22:03 <@anarchival> aestetix: Yes.
22:03 <@anarchival> I might skip 4) fix sophrinix's old Roomba. The cider is hitting me harder than normal. Gonna go straight to #5.
22:07 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: so is this one of Andrew's weekends in Atlanta?
22:09 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Sort of. She actually surprised him with a weekend visit today. I think she got here around 5 or 6pm. She'll go back on Sunday.
22:09 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: The good news is, this leaves me with an actual weekend, since he was planning on a Codex hackathon before she called this morning.
22:10  * anarchival puts her feet up, lights a cigar.
22:12 <@Evilpig> I need a knife or to put clothes back on
22:13 < RangerZ1> eat that much this weekend?
22:13 < RangerZ1> week*
22:13 <@Evilpig> nah.  i'm wanting something sweet.  I have a loaf of dessert bread sitting here, or I need to put on pants and go downstairs and get a cookie or something from down there
22:15 <@eryc> that reminds me i have nutty bars
22:16 <@Corydon76-work> How appropriate
22:16 <@benthemeek> Mail fixed, firewall rules added, NATs set up... I am going home
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22:16 <@anarchival> Evilpig: If putting on pants is that significant a barrier to going downstairs for food, you're not really hungry.
22:17 < RangerZ1> you don't know Evilpig's hate of pants well enough
22:17 <@anarchival> RangerZ1: I know how much he likes to take them off for me, but now that we all know he's pantless he can't sexually harass me the way he usually does.
22:17 <@Evilpig> I'm not hungry.  I have a craving for something sweet
22:18 < RangerZ1> just talk to some cute chick online ;)
22:18 <@Evilpig> everyone in here already knew that i'm always pantsless when at home
22:18  * Corydon76-work takes his pants off.
22:18 <@Corydon76-work> I got something sweet for you right here, big boy.
22:18  * Evilpig pushes RangerZ1 toward Corydon76-work 
22:18 <@anarchival> Yeah, Evilpig. Why don't you log in to Second Life. Plenty of cute chicks in there. Some of them are even actual women.
22:19 <@Corydon76-work> Oh, dear god, I haven't laughed that hard, since, well, since last night.
22:19 <@Evilpig> Because second life isn't something sweet?
22:19 <@eryc> well this got boring
22:20 <@anarchival> Evilpig: I'm just playing along with RangerZ1's constant monologue of "pussy pussy pussy."
22:20 <@Evilpig> that's aestetix 
22:20 <@eryc> pussy
22:20 <@anarchival> Evilpig: I'm not claiming there's a lot of difference between them.
22:21 <@eryc> then you'd be dumb
22:21 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah, RangerZ's internal monologue right now is "Pizza pizza pizza pizza"
22:21 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: I think you should give him some penis oh god I meant pizza not penis I MEANT PIZZA.
22:21 < RangerZ1> asshole
22:22 < RangerZ1> nvm, thts Corydon76-work's inner thoughts too
22:22 < RangerZ1> i told you were going to burn in hell
22:22 <@Corydon76-work> This is fucking good pizza, too
22:22 <@Corydon76-work> The sun-dried tomatoes give it just that right oomph
22:23 <@eryc> i'm glad you're satisfied with your purchase
22:23 <@Corydon76-work> Oh, I am.  I love finding random toppings on clearance at Williams Sonoma
22:24 <@Corydon76-work> I only used half a jar, and I've got another jar unopened in the cupboard
22:25 <@Evilpig> who's burning in hell?  I've had a reserved seat on that ride for a while, just curious who's taking the plunge with me
22:25 <@anarchival>  Corydon76-work: Do you ever shop at World Market? That place is a pizza maker's dream.
22:25 <@Corydon76-work> The one just below Harding on Nolensville Road?
22:26 <@Corydon76-work> It's been awhile since I've been there
22:26 <@eryc> it's a chain store
22:26 <@anarchival> Evilpig: I'm consigned to the weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth of eternal damnation in Outer Darkness since I became an apostate by willfully forfeiting my baptism.
22:26 <@Corydon76-work> Evilpig: I'm apparently going to hell for torturing RangerZ1 with homemade pizza
22:26 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: I go to the one at Nashville West, but there might be one closer to you. It is a chain store.
22:27 <@Corydon76-work> Ah, okay.  The live fish area was rather interesting
22:27 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-work: that sounds like a good reason
22:27 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ1: I have leftovers.  You just have to find my place in Antioch...
22:30 < RangerZ1> meh
22:30 < RangerZ1> i have spaghetti
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22:37 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ1: Ah, yes, I usually make a large pot of spaghetti sauce once a quarter and freeze the mixture.
22:37 <@Corydon76-work> Also from scratch
22:43 <@anarchival> I just got the weirdest dependency error when trying to install knode.
22:43 <@anarchival> It won't even respond to a force.
22:43 <@anarchival> Harumph.
22:44 <@anarchival> sudo su apt-get -f install knode GODDAMMIT.
22:44 <@Corydon76-work> knode, the Usenet news reader for KDE?
22:44 <@anarchival> Yep.
22:44 <@anarchival> Then again, it seems strange that this didn't come with Kubuntu...
22:45 <@anarchival> No really I've got a dial-up utility but not a news reader? Mmkay.
22:45 <@Corydon76-work> It's not integrated into Kontact?
22:45 <@anarchival> It doesn't look like it. There's mail, contacts, calendar, to do, RSS, Journal, and Notes.
22:46 <@Corydon76-work> I stopped using knode some years back, when Comcast effectively killed support
22:46 <@anarchival> I'm just looking for a Usenet client for actually reading Usenet, as opposed to simply pirating shit.
22:46 <@Corydon76-work> Oh, that's different from what I used it for
22:47 <@Corydon76-work> Free porn
22:47 <@anarchival> Yeah I've got binreader for NZB files
22:47 <@Corydon76-work> This was in the days before Tumblr, though
22:47 <@anarchival> does no one use Usenet for actual conversations anymore?
22:47  * anarchival mourns the loss of misc.survivalism.
22:48 <@Corydon76-work> I did, back in the mid-90s
22:48 <@anarchival> Yeah, me too.
22:48 <@anarchival> Stupid bloggers thinking they invented something.
22:48 <@Corydon76-work> but Usenet was basically the substitute for communication when everybody's links were too slow to support anything better
22:48 < RangerZ1> holy hell... my laptop was in my bag on the floor
22:48 < RangerZ1> and its semi-painfully cold to the touch
22:49 <@Corydon76-work> With broadband connections available, people can communicate faster than Usenet permits
22:50 <@Corydon76-work> Even IRC helped kill Usenet
22:50 <@anarchival> Yeah, I guess it's just piracy from now on. Sigh. We can never go back home.
22:51 <@Corydon76-work> I don't see the point of Usenet for even piracy.  TPB/BT is far more efficient
22:52 <@Corydon76-work> Usenet discussions _may_ still have utility in places where bandwidth is low and rare
22:52 <@Corydon76-work> Because it's essentially a networked BBS
22:53 <@Corydon76-work> Once BBS's fell away, Usenet was not far behind.
22:53 <@anarchival> Usenet has SSL though, and you're not exchanging your IP address with other torrent clients.
22:54 <@Corydon76-work> Usenet having SSL is a relatively new thing, and it's still based upon a hub-and-spoke model, where SSL is not really hiding anything from your provider
22:55 <@RangerZ> http://i.imgur.com/3gT7eHv.png hehe
22:56 <@Corydon76-work> SSL makes sense to hide sensitive information from prying eyes between two endpoints.  But since Usenet is bulk transferred in the clear, and since your provider can see everything you've posted and read, SSL doesn't make much sense (other than to possibly secure a login)
22:56 <@anarchival> You do have to have a certain level of trust with your provider, which of course these days is foolish. However, Giganews provides a VPN service with their subscription that isn't too shabby: http://www.giganews.com/vyprvpn/
22:56 < GateKeeper> Title: VyprVPN Personal VPN for Giganews Members (at www.giganews.com)
22:57 <@Corydon76-work> There's only two major groups that are posting sensitive crap anyway, and those are pirates and pedophiles
22:58 <@anarchival> It's possible to anonymize your torrent traffic of course, but the problem with a distributed network is it has more attack surfaces for entities who hope to isolate who, exactly, is pirating their material.
22:59 <@RangerZ> just get a BT VPN, and be done with it
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22:59 <@anarchival> Providers like Giganews can fail to log user traffic sufficiently to even provide this information, if asked.
22:59 <@RangerZ> 'sure they do'
22:59 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ1: when all of the Usenet providers require a login, there's no point
23:00 <@RangerZ> Corydon76-work: i'm saying ignore usenix
23:00 <@RangerZ> but 'ehh', thats just me
23:00 <@eryc> usenix is still cool
23:00 <@eryc> usenet isn't
23:00 <@RangerZ> ahh sorry
23:00 <@RangerZ> geeze, i was just lookinga t my usenix stuff
23:01 <@eryc> heh
23:01 <@anarchival> Although Usenix has proposed a low-overhead design for Usenet: https://www.usenix.org/conference/nsdi-08/usenetdht-low-overhead-design-usenet
23:01 < GateKeeper> Title: UsenetDHT: A Low-Overhead Design for Usenet | USENIX (at www.usenix.org)
23:02 <@eryc> Emil Sit has, usenix is just a platform
23:02 <@anarchival> eryc: Shhh! You're ruining my little joke.
23:03 < RangerZ1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKBhlpE4QbM
23:03 < GateKeeper> Title: Years After Donating Sperm, Man Ordered To Pay Child Support - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:04 < RangerZ1> thats some BS
23:04 <@Corydon76-work> Yep
23:05 <@Corydon76-work> Lesson:  always follow the law if you don't want to be screwed by it.
23:05 < RangerZ1> honestly, i'd have paid to have the doctor do it anyways
23:06 <@Corydon76-work> Yep
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23:09 <@Corydon76-work> Also a good reason to go out of state for the purpose.  An order is a little more muddled legally when a state attempts to order someone who has never been a resident.
23:10 <@Corydon76-work> You at least could plausibly argue that another state has jurisdiction
23:14 <@anarchival> Can either of you explain the motivation of fathering a child you have absolutely no intention of ever having anything to do with?
23:15 <@anarchival> I've never understood that.
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23:18 < RangerZ1> yes, if it is something like doner
23:30 <@Catonic> doner kebab?
23:35 <@anarchival> So my Minecraft talk didn't get accepted for the workshop with the middle school teachers.
23:35 <@anarchival> HOW SHOCKING.
23:35 <@anarchival> The blacklisting hasn't been lifted yet, apparently.
23:37 <@SuMo_D> blacklisting?
23:39 <@anarchival> SuMo_D: Yes. There was some ado on Twitter between me and the keynote speaker at a small local tech conference back in August, over some rape apologetics he was posting on his blog. Anyway, I got banned from speaking or even attending at the conference.
23:39 < RangerZ1> no talking about sex, drugs, rock and or roll, or crafting of mines
23:40 <@anarchival> SuMo_D: And then BSides Nashville didn't want me as a conference organizer, and then SkyDogCon canceled my talk, and then two other conferences haven't accepted my submissions.
23:40 <@anarchival> SuMo_D: I'm beginning to sense a trend. Since it's a lot of the same guys over and over, I've got a feeling it's personal.
23:41 <@SuMo_D> ok, yeah sounds complicated
23:41 <@SuMo_D> if it was with the public school teachers though, that's a different animal
23:41 <@SuMo_D> its always hard dealing with the districts... but still sorry that happened
23:41 <@anarchival> SuMo_D: The Nashville tech community is a bit incestuous, really. Lots of drama.
23:43 <@SuMo_D> yep, so it seems
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