--- Log opened Sun Jan 19 00:00:52 2014 00:33 < klixa> i <3 this song right now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg 00:33 < GateKeeper> Title: OneRepublic - Counting Stars - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 00:33 < MinecraftRelay> Server appears to have stopped responding 00:43 <@northrup> Evilpig: what are you using to transcode? 01:09 <@aestetix> vagina 01:10 < klixa> aestetix: you need to get that tourettes of yours treated 01:12 <@eryc> pussy 01:12 < klixa> i hope you are happy now aestetix now eryc has caught it! 01:13 <@aestetix> it's contageous 01:17 <@northrup> wait - pussy is contageous? 01:17 * northrup grins 01:18 <@Corydon76-work> Hah. Somebody put a photo up of the haggling scene from "Life of Brian" on his listing of servers 01:18 <@Corydon76-work> http://nashville.craigslist.org/sys/4292819086.html SFW 01:18 < GateKeeper> Title: Compaq ProLiant DL320 1GHz CPU 512 MB mem 2 X 40 GB drives rack server (at nashville.craigslist.org) 01:22 <@Corydon76-work> I want to lowball this guy just to see what he says in response. 01:23 <@aestetix> oh god 01:23 <@aestetix> namecheap has been doucheified 01:23 <@northrup> Corydon76-work: I would, please do... these servers, in that spec, are worth no more than $20 bucks a pop 01:23 <@aestetix> They just adoped the layout that all the startups are using 01:24 <@northrup> aestetix: please say it isn't so, I use them :-/ 01:24 <@aestetix> go to the website 01:24 <@aestetix> I'm surprised it isn't promoting its app 01:24 <@northrup> aestetix: What. The. Fuck 01:24 <@Corydon76-work> northrup: That's what I was going to offer as my lowball 01:25 <@Corydon76-work> They'd be an upgrade to the servers I have in my rack currently, even though the ones here are dual-CPU 01:27 <@Corydon76-work> Of course, if I put all 4 into production, I'd have to get an 8-port KVM (I'm currently on a 4) 01:27 <@northrup> aestetix: well, it looks like they're keeping the same management tool, just inside a frame of that awful redesign 01:29 <@aestetix> northrup: I wonder if their new backend is running on ruby 01:29 <@northrup> aestetix: nope - the method for buying new product is all fucked up 01:30 <@northrup> aestetix: the nope was a 'nope' to it's not the same, not about ruby 01:30 <@aestetix> Like "I wrote a web browser with one line of code! browser Test = new Browser()" 01:30 <@northrup> aestetix: it might be time for me to find a new registrar 01:30 <@Corydon76-work> northrup: I use Gandi.net for everything 01:31 <@Corydon76-work> and now use their servers for DNS, as well 01:31 <@Corydon76-work> They even support SRV records 01:32 <@northrup> I use Amazon Route 53 for the DNS hosting 01:32 <@Corydon76-work> Plus, they are awesome, just for this policy: https://www.gandi.net/no-bullshit 01:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Nom de domaine et hébergement cloud - Gandi.net (at www.gandi.net) 01:33 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: and non US 01:33 <@northrup> aestetix: Ooohh... Excellent point 01:33 <@Corydon76-work> Well, yes. They're based in Paris, France 01:35 <@Corydon76-work> https://www.gandi.net/supports/ 01:35 < GateKeeper> Title: Nom de domaine et hébergement cloud - Gandi soutient les projets alternatifs - Gandi.net (at www.gandi.net) 01:35 <@northrup> I like the 'no bullshit' policy 01:36 <@aestetix> northrup: among the annoying startup trends lately: a douche website thrown together in bootstrap, an app that has no independent functionality from the website, ability to "share" things with "friends" thus making it "social", and pointless integration with Facebook 01:36 <@aestetix> I'm sure there's more 01:37 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: pointless integration, like being able to "like" products? 01:37 <@Corydon76-work> or share the page? 01:38 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: that's more a commentary on "integration." I haven't used Facebook for several years, so I no longer know what it actually does. 01:38 <@Corydon76-work> I added it to our pages because it was cheap and easy, and it doesn't cost us much. 01:39 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: Honestly? It's a a shared Tumblr feed. That's it. 01:39 <@aestetix> I also have never used tumblr, despite quite tasteful accounts with my name on them. 01:40 <@Corydon76-work> Okay, basically it's a blog, but most content is shared, instead of created. 01:40 <@Corydon76-work> You're familiar with the concept of a blog, right? 01:41 <@aestetix> Yep. 01:41 <@aestetix> Sorry, I was busy talking with Namecheap. Twitter is wierd. 01:41 <@aestetix> I was not expecting a reply to my angry twitter within a minute of posting it 01:42 <@Corydon76-work> Facebook is basically a compendium of everything that any other social site has figured out how to do, all rolled up into one entity 01:42 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: a lot of online experiences right now seem to be about monetizing "moments" without adding anything to them. 01:42 <@Corydon76-work> That's what makes it so damn useful (but also so damn annoying, and such a massive time suck) 01:43 <@Corydon76-work> Monetizing the feed is what they're trying to figure out how to do currently 01:43 <@Corydon76-work> Facebook is useful, which is why people are on it. 01:43 <@aestetix> I think it's a worthwhile question whether you'd rather spend an hour thinking about an item to see if it's something you're interested in, or spend that hour being inundated by "friends" "sharing" things, which promotes a "keeping up with the Johnsons's" fad 01:43 <@aestetix> I think Facebook is good at convincing people it's useful. 01:44 <@Corydon76-work> One of the problems of monetizing is that if they're ever able to fully monetize the feed, FB will become a whole lot less useful, and people will leave. 01:44 <@Corydon76-work> No, it's definitely useful. 01:44 <@northrup> Well, according to the latest data the under 20 crowd has bailed 01:45 < klixa> what i i hate about facebook is people talk to each other without taling to each other...i added someone i hadnt talked to in 20 years...neother of us have said anyting to one another...but have "liked" posts by the other 01:45 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: One of the reasons I became uninterested is because it turned into a tragedy of the commons. It's a timesink of a forum that pretends to be a public townhall, but offers none of the beneficial limitations of it. 01:45 < klixa> well, maybe not *hate*...its one thing i find unusual rather 01:45 <@Corydon76-work> northrup: what's funny about that is that the report that the under 20 crowd has bailed has caused some of the under 20 crowd to bail, even though I've observed that many of the under 20 crowd I know have not bailed 01:46 <@Corydon76-work> It's similar to a report that a bank being on shaky financial ground causes people to withdraw their money, causing the bank to be on shaky financial ground. 01:48 <@aestetix> I can't speak for the under 20 crowd 01:48 <@aestetix> But a bunch of folks I know have left becuse it's no longer worthwhile to them. 01:48 <@northrup> Corydon76-work: Ehh, I don't know if it's quite as close to that parallel... 01:49 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: a bank is what offers many people their financial stability. Facebook... not so much. 01:49 <@Corydon76-work> northrup: I know quite a few teens who have TWO Facebook pages, one that they share with their parents (and which is mostly unused) and another which they share with their friends 01:49 <@aestetix> One of my main objections with Facebook actually steps from the second (I think) commandment 01:49 <@aestetix> "Thou shalt not worship false images" 01:50 <@aestetix> Because Facebook basically allows you to create this image of what you are to broadcast with the world. 01:50 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: My impression of you is that if you could find a way to flaunt all 10 commandments, you would 01:50 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: we call that art 01:51 <@Corydon76-work> northrup: and if you're a parent of a teen, please forget that I said that. 01:53 <@Corydon76-work> Honestly, what I suspect is that with the news 2 years ago of some idiot who got a teen to commit suicide through bullying on Facebook, parents demanded that their teens "friend" them on FB, so they could keep an eye out. This, in turn, meant that teens were no longer comfortable being themselves on FB, and so they ditched. 01:54 <@Corydon76-work> But they only ditched to the extent that their parents were overbearing about being associated with them. Those teens who have separation with two profiles already ensured that their parents didn't see the part of their lives they wanted kept private. 01:56 <@Corydon76-work> BTW, if you're wondering how I know a huge swath of teenagers, most of the ones I know are gay and aren't out to their parents, and seek alternative role models. 01:57 < klixa> in this day and age people still arent out? bleh 01:57 <@Corydon76-work> Unfortunately, kids who are dependent upon their parents don't always have a choice 01:58 < klixa> Corydon76-work: well more so, i meant i cant believe the conditions still exist to keep them that way 01:59 <@Corydon76-work> I was talking to one kid who is terrified that his parents will find out, because they've previously disowned his sister for being a lesbian 01:59 <@Corydon76-work> And this kid isn't even in the South. 01:59 <@Corydon76-work> He's in the Pacific Northwest. 02:00 < klixa> i have lived all over this country... its all the same 02:00 < klixa> rural vs urban is what matters 02:00 < klixa> vs suburbia 02:00 <@Corydon76-work> I convinced him to friend that sister on Facebook and come out to her, because if his parents find out and kick him out, I want him to have a backup plan for where to go, instead of living on the street. 02:00 <@Dagmar> Sounds to me like the real problem is they keep havin' gay kids 02:01 < klixa> haha 02:01 <@Dagmar> No one to blame for that but themselves. 02:01 -!- bkotewall [~bkotewall@c-98-240-122-43.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:01 -!- bkotewall is now known as polgair 02:02 <@Corydon76-work> klixa: it's absolutely terrifying how many kids under 18 are on the street, and 30% of them are openly gay. There's a belief that close to 50% of them are gay, even if not open about it. 02:03 <@Corydon76-work> That belief is among the social services folks who work with homeless youth 02:03 < klixa> the other 50% are heroin addicts "| 02:03 < klixa> :| * 02:03 < klixa> actually i dunno 02:03 <@Corydon76-work> The largest homeless services organization in Nashville is actively anti-gay. 02:04 < klixa> well, God Hates Fags, duh...can you blame them 02:04 < klixa> (kidding obviously) 02:04 < klixa> thats messed up for any helping agency to be discriminatory 02:05 <@Corydon76-work> klixa: the remainder of homeless youth are a mixture of youth whose parents are homeless and runaways, usually escaping from either physically abusive or sexually abusive situations 02:05 < polgair> Corydon76-work: are you referring to the salvation army? 02:05 <@northrup> possibly the Nashville Rescue Mission 02:05 <@Corydon76-work> polgair: No, Nashville Rescue Mission 02:05 < klixa> Corydon76-work: i was homeless brefly when my mom died 02:05 < klixa> like when i was younger 02:07 <@northrup> klixa: was this in Nashville? 02:07 < klixa> northrup: yeah 02:09 <@Corydon76-work> klixa: how old were you at the time? 02:09 < klixa> Corydon76-work: 20 02:09 < klixa> it lasted a month...i slept in y car 02:10 < klixa> my* 02:13 <@Corydon76-work> I'm sorry to hear that 02:14 <@Corydon76-work> I've known two other gay kids to have gotten tossed out onto the street when their parents found out 02:14 <@Corydon76-work> One lost his tuition money in college. 02:14 < klixa> i cant imagine being thrown out by a parent 02:14 <@aestetix> I have a friend who got thrown out when he got arrested in an anti-war protest. 02:14 <@northrup> Corydon76-work: Ugh... 02:14 <@aestetix> (His parents were pro-Bush republicans) 02:15 <@Corydon76-work> I can't imagine what possesses parents to do that to their kids 02:15 < klixa> me either 02:15 <@northrup> aestetix: Whoa, "get out of our house, you're not for death and destruction!" ?!? WTF 02:15 <@aestetix> Last I talked to him (which was 10 years ago) he was living in a hippie commune doing drugs. 02:15 <@Corydon76-work> What is so difficult about "unconditional love"? 02:15 < klixa> ive only had my kid like 2.5 months...and im already too attached to thorw her out :| 02:15 <@aestetix> northrup: pretty much. 02:16 <@northrup> Corydon76-work: to love others unconditionally, you have to first love yourself - most religon I've seen down here in the south is about how worthless you are 02:16 <@Corydon76-work> Closest I've ever been to that is when I got into an argument with my parents on the way to church, and my father pulled over and dared me to get out of the car. 02:17 <@Corydon76-work> Those of you who know me know that daring me to do something outrageous is the surest way to get me to do that. 02:17 <@aestetix> I take it the church is popular with the youth crowd in the south? 02:17 <@Corydon76-work> Lutheran 02:18 <@Corydon76-work> This was back 15 years ago, when they hadn't quite evolved to their current position yet 02:19 <@aestetix> Most of my friends have trouble waking up before noon on a sunday, let alone getting to church. 02:19 <@Corydon76-work> As it was related to me later, my act of getting out of the car and walking back to the house rattled my father far more than he let on at the time 02:21 <@Corydon76-work> The whole situation is part of the reason why I evolved into an atheist. 02:22 < klixa> um 02:22 <@Corydon76-work> If the church cannot accept people for their innate characteristics, and they fervently believe that their god has commanded them to be that way, clearly that's not a rational belief 02:23 <@Corydon76-work> Which gradually leads to the realization that belief in a deity is not rational 02:24 -!- Vyrus001_ [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.117] has joined #se2600 02:25 -!- ShadowHn1r [~alex@ec2-54-235-164-175.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #se2600 02:25 -!- ShadowHntr [~alex@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:25 -!- aestetix [~aestetix@173.203.198.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:25 -!- Vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:27 -!- aestetix [~aestetix@173.203.198.40] has joined #se2600 02:32 < klixa> well church and the belief in something are not the same thing Corydon76-work 02:33 < klixa> im agnostic...which basically means im afraid of death and hope and there is more 02:33 <@Corydon76-work> klixa: you're correct; they are not. However, because they are intertwined on some level, doubting one made me doubt the other 02:34 < klixa> ok 02:34 < klixa> you know what i find weird about humans? 02:34 < klixa> romantic relationships....once they are over, the people are more distant to one another than to almost anyone else they know 02:34 <@Corydon76-work> And once you realize how horribly wrong the church is, you really have to wonder whether there's anything to their central belief 02:35 < klixa> im anti church/religion for the most part 02:35 <@Corydon76-work> klixa: that's not always true. I am friends with all of my exes 02:35 <@Corydon76-work> To hate an ex is to admit that you did not do your due diligence before getting into a relationship with them 02:36 < klixa> i dont hate any of my exes 02:36 < klixa> also hate is not distance ayway 02:36 <@Corydon76-work> and I am nothing if not careful 02:37 < klixa> i just mean... that once you aren together...you cant have that same closness anymore....and it feels weird 02:37 < klixa> to have to keep a distance form someone you were once closer to than anyone 02:43 <@Corydon76-work> People grow apart. 02:44 <@Corydon76-work> This is life. I don't communicate with the same group of friends that I did when I was in high school. This doesn't mean I don't yearn to communicate with them again. 02:45 < klixa> im glad i have only had a few relaitonships 02:45 <@Corydon76-work> But they aren't the same people today that they were in high school. They all have evolved and grown since. 02:46 <@Corydon76-work> Nor am I, for that matter. 02:47 < klixa> i just broke up with someone 2 months ago...for context 02:47 < klixa> so i am all "zomg...whah this sucks" 02:50 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: Take my hand… take my whole life too] 02:52 -!- polgair [~bkotewall@c-98-240-122-43.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:52 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:17 < MinecraftRelay> Server appears to have stopped responding 04:07 <@northrup> anyone left on chan? 04:16 < aestetix> no 04:40 < aestetix> penis 05:08 <@NotLarry> *sigh* 07:08 < RangerZ> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/01/19/0454222/nagios-plugins-web-site-taken-over-by-nagios ohh thats not cool 07:08 < GateKeeper> Title: Nagios-Plugins Web Site Taken Over By Nagios - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org) 07:14 < aestetix> haha 07:25 <@NotLarry> Maybe amazon won't notice I submitted my shutterfly cover letter to them:) 07:26 <@NotLarry> aestetix: Tell me about Haywood? 07:27 < RangerZ> NotLarry: did you really? 07:28 < RangerZ> thats why i put every cover letter/custom resume into their own subfolder 07:28 < RangerZ> for each place 07:28 <@NotLarry> RangerZ: Just one little part. Enough that if the read the whole thing they will either chuckle or throw it out:) 07:28 < RangerZ> lol 07:29 <@NotLarry> This is the best video game ever. Applying for random jobs all over the planet and mapping them on google earth. 07:29 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: The Nagios drama has been going on for years now. Ethan started this drama and it's been getting worse and worse. 07:29 < RangerZ> not likely until someone at HR would be willing to give you phone interview 07:29 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: I wasn't aware, I've used it in the past, but never really 'kept up' on it 07:29 < RangerZ> but wow... dick move 07:30 < RangerZ> "we're taking over this domain" ,because fuck you give me money 07:30 < RangerZ> this is a PERFECT use case for signed packages 07:30 <@NotLarry> ripping the website and serving it seems a little od 07:31 < RangerZ> b/c then the nagios corp. wouldn't be able _to_ push updates 07:31 <@Bahhumbug> 2-3 years ago nagios got forked into 2 (possibly more) projects, the leading one being ichinga, all because Ethan couldn't be bothered to make the decisions necessary to keep development going and keep the development crew together. 07:31 < RangerZ> 2009 (so says comment 26) ;) 07:31 < RangerZ> (i was just reading that one, lol) 07:32 <@Bahhumbug> Since then there has been drama involved in all aspects of the project. This is just the most recent. Nagios Enterprises has been C&D happy for the past 2 years as well, sticking it to people every change it gets. 07:32 < RangerZ> aestetix: i'm surprised your "identy"-ness isn't all over this, lol 07:32 < RangerZ> that sucks 07:32 < RangerZ> its good software 07:33 <@Bahhumbug> meh 07:33 <@Bahhumbug> Yes and no. 07:33 <@Bahhumbug> The stock poller sucks. 07:33 <@Bahhumbug> It doesn't scale for shit. 07:33 < RangerZ> yeah... i know that 07:33 < RangerZ> lol 07:33 < RangerZ> i ran into that just checking 300 hotels 07:33 <@Bahhumbug> The thing really needs to be totally re-done from the ground up; some of the codepaths in that thing are hideous. 07:34 <@Bahhumbug> But.... 07:34 <@Bahhumbug> I still think it's the best of breed for a FOSS monitoring solution. I can't stand zabbix, and zenos or whatever it's called is even worse. 07:35 <@Bahhumbug> (If zabbix could get a useable web interface I might change my opinion.) 07:35 < RangerZ> cactus? or something 07:35 < RangerZ> or does that just 'use' nagios 07:35 < RangerZ> i seem to remember something like that from Ohio Linux Fest like....~2009ish 07:36 < RangerZ> cacti* 07:36 <@Bahhumbug> Different tasks. Nagios is a host/service monitoring (and reaction) packagel cacti is a data graphing solution. 07:36 < RangerZ> ahh ok 07:36 < RangerZ> i swore it did nagios's duties too 07:36 <@Bahhumbug> Cacti is really a database driven rrdtool front end. 07:36 < RangerZ> but *shrugs* 07:36 < RangerZ> ahh ok 07:36 <@Bahhumbug> There is some monitoring/notification available with addons. 07:37 < RangerZ> the guy from cacti was _definately_ selling nagios with it 07:37 < aestetix> hmm 07:37 < RangerZ> b/c thats about the only thing I remember from the presentation, lol 07:38 < aestetix> RangerZ: what did I miss 07:38 < RangerZ> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/01/19/0454222/nagios-plugins-web-site-taken-over-by-nagios 07:38 < GateKeeper> Title: Nagios-Plugins Web Site Taken Over By Nagios - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org) 07:38 < RangerZ> so who is "nagios-plugins" 07:38 < RangerZ> from the packager's POV 07:38 < aestetix> oh wow 07:39 < RangerZ> personally I agree with https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054340#c16 07:39 <@Bahhumbug> Honestly, this really isn't that big of a deal and in many ways probably a good thing. 07:39 < GateKeeper> Title: Bug 1054340 Update upstream URL to https://www.monitoring-plugins.org (at bugzilla.redhat.com) 07:39 < aestetix> So what happened 07:39 < RangerZ> neither should have it, and both should change name , and old name points to community version 07:40 <@Bahhumbug> The plugins are being used by more than nagios at this point, so moving to a new domain and getting away from the Nagios Enterprise crap is in their best interests. 07:40 < aestetix> Did someone hack nagios-plugins.org and point the DNS? 07:40 < RangerZ> nope 07:40 <@Bahhumbug> Hi. Read the article. 07:40 < RangerZ> RTFA ;) 07:40 <@Bahhumbug> If that's Friedrich's BZ? 07:41 <@Bahhumbug> If so there's a LOT of bullshit in that. 07:41 < RangerZ> yeah, but #16 is the only idea that makes sense to me 07:41 <@Bahhumbug> Friedrich is the primary Ichinga dev so he's got an axe to grind and is jaded. The asshat from Red Hat responding to that BZ is dick that, at least when I read it yesterday afternoon, didn't have a clue at all as to the situation. 07:41 < aestetix> Hmm. 07:41 < RangerZ> but of course... it was ignored by the rest of the thread, lol 07:41 < aestetix> Initial thought is they never should have transferred ownership 07:42 <@Bahhumbug> Bingo. 07:42 <@Bahhumbug> However, had they not it would have ended up in court. And they plugin devs would have lost. Big time. 07:43 < aestetix> Yeah, but if they pushed it into court, they could have put in legal things to delay it long enough to transfer things on their own accord. 07:43 <@Bahhumbug> Ahh, you're referring to Jan Wagner's comment. Yeah, I agree with that. 07:43 < RangerZ> i dunno, i tend to think that you should be able to say "my website makes plugins for _____" without _____'s permission 07:43 <@Bahhumbug> The consumers are the only one that really lose during all this. 07:43 < RangerZ> yeah 07:43 < aestetix> RangerZ: I'm guessing this is a trademark issue 07:43 < RangerZ> yes 07:43 <@Bahhumbug> "nagios" 07:44 <@Bahhumbug> That's the issue. 07:44 <@Bahhumbug> Which is funny, because the "nagios" name came about because the original project name, "Netsaint", was a registered mark. 07:44 < aestetix> And also, if it goes to court, that gives them room to make all users aware that Nagios is evil. While still not getting fucked over. 07:45 <@Bahhumbug> Everyone pretty much knows how much of a dick Ethan has turned into lately. 07:45 <@Bahhumbug> Sorry, "penis". 07:45 < RangerZ> honestly, i'm surprised that a new replacement hasn't risen up 07:46 <@Bahhumbug> It has. Ichinga. 07:46 < RangerZ> something with _good_ software design 07:46 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, well... 07:46 < RangerZ> lol 07:46 < RangerZ> but i'm leaning towards focusing my phd research into that direction 07:46 <@Bahhumbug> That whole space is kinda fucked. 07:46 < RangerZ> instead of just hybrid/embedded 07:46 <@Bahhumbug> You want to do something useful? Fix the shitty web interface of Zabbix :) 07:47 < RangerZ> so i look at code and just cringe 07:47 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: i'm actually about to start work on a model based RESTful api generator 07:47 <@Bahhumbug> If you want to see something cool go look at NagVis I think it's called. Front end to nagios. Quite friggin' nice. 07:48 < aestetix> It's hard for my to have sympathy for someone who was so obviously stupid. 07:49 < aestetix> Had they just said "make me" to nagios and not transferred over ownership, it would have been a lot easier for them 07:49 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: honestly, i've thought about talking to jules, and looking into doing a semester long course, where some vandy upper undergrads/grads work on some OSS projects 07:49 < RangerZ> sorta a summer of code, for course credit 07:50 < RangerZ> and not in the summer... b/c vandy shuts down during that time, lol 07:50 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: And they would have made them. Nagios Enterprise, as I mentioned earlier, has been C&D happy for a couple years now. They have corporate counsel and aren't afraid to use it. 07:51 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: sure. 07:51 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: Vandy doesn't have summer classes? 07:51 <@Shadow404> penis 07:51 < RangerZ> it 'does' but not really 07:51 <@Bahhumbug> Heh 07:51 <@Bahhumbug> Is that like "kinda pregnant"? 07:51 < aestetix> What I'm getting at is that they could have fought for ways to transfer it, rather than having the domain name swapped out from under them. 07:52 < RangerZ> EECS as far as i know doesn't offer a single 'traditional' course 07:52 < RangerZ> only research hours, independent study, etc 07:53 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: "Nagios, the Nagios logo, and Nagios graphics are the servicemarks, trademarks, or registered trademarks owned by Nagios Enterprises. All other servicemarks and trademarks are the property of their respective owner. Website Copyright © 2009-2014 Nagios Enterprises, LLC. All rights reserved." 07:53 < aestetix> Sure. 07:53 <@Bahhumbug> Really, they didn't have a legal leg to stand on. 07:53 < aestetix> I'm not saying they'd win. 07:53 < aestetix> I'm saying that it would buy them time. 07:53 * Bahhumbug shrugs 07:53 <@Bahhumbug> Perhaps. 07:53 < RangerZ> aestetix: not worth the fight 07:53 < RangerZ> plus then legal fees 07:53 <@Bahhumbug> I think the outcome would have ended up being the same. 07:53 < aestetix> Well 07:54 < aestetix> The bottom line is, they were gonna get fucked either way. 07:54 < aestetix> So why didn't they just move everything over when they first transferred the domain? 07:54 < aestetix> Or maybe I'm totally confused 07:54 * Bahhumbug shrugs 07:54 <@Bahhumbug> I don't really know what they were (or were not) thinking :) 07:54 < aestetix> That said 07:54 <@Bahhumbug> I would have changed the project name, personally. 07:55 < aestetix> Does anyone still use nagios? 07:55 < aestetix> It's kind of dated. 07:55 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, hell yeah. 07:55 <@Bahhumbug> NagVis and other similar front ends. 07:55 < aestetix> Since new relic does a lot of that stuff. 07:55 < RangerZ> aestetix: you know... 'ls' is also kinda old 07:55 < aestetix> heh 07:56 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.nagvis.org/ 07:56 < GateKeeper> Title: Welcome to NagVis Home! - NagVis.org (at www.nagvis.org) 07:56 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously - take a moment and look at that project 07:56 < RangerZ> even its 'new' version thats all GNU'd up is from like 1996 or something 07:56 < aestetix> oh that is pretty 07:56 < RangerZ> ^ 07:56 < RangerZ> that was exactly what I was about to type 07:57 <@Bahhumbug> And the Nagios Enterprises releases are a couple notches up from the community versions as well. 07:58 <@Bahhumbug> Bleah' 07:58 <@Bahhumbug> Unlimited Hosts $4,995 USD $4,000 USD 10 07:58 <@Bahhumbug> 101 - 200 Hosts $2,995 USD $2,000 USD 5 07:58 <@Bahhumbug> UP To 100 Hosts $1,995 USD $1,650 USD 5 07:58 <@Bahhumbug> Pricing for the Nagios XL product. 07:59 <@Bahhumbug> Hi. Fuck you. 07:59 < aestetix> I assume that's $2k per 100 hosts, not $2k per host 07:59 <@Bahhumbug> Sighm shitty cut and paste. 08:00 <@Bahhumbug> License level Initial price Renewal Price Support incidents included for the level 08:00 <@Bahhumbug> How much is Unicenter selling for these days? 08:01 <@Bahhumbug> (That's the only thing that my tired brain can think of with any type of similar functionality) 08:01 <@Bahhumbug> Bleah, that's not a good comparison, UniCenter is so much more than just host/service monitoring and reaction. 08:02 <@Bahhumbug> Oh well, I need to finish up some migrations and then sleep. 08:02 * Bahhumbug & 08:27 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 08:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 08:29 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23 < aestetix> I have a huge bookshelf full of classics. 09:23 < aestetix> And instead, I'm spending my time watching videos of games. 09:38 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 09:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 09:40 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:49 <@sdodson> aestetix, everyone still uses nagios 10:04 < MinecraftRelay> Server appears to have stopped responding 10:13 < MinecraftRelay> lies 10:13 <@Evilpig> ? 10:13 < MinecraftRelay> its up and running 10:14 <@Evilpig> it was jsut overloaded 10:14 < MinecraftRelay> yeah, thats what she said last night 10:17 <@Evilpig> still seeing random load spikes of 20+ 10:22 < RangerZ> ohh I can get those Spikes MUCH Higher 10:22 < RangerZ> plex + FTP + minecraft 10:23 < MinecraftRelay> Death: %player% shadow404_lang forgot to bring a parachute! 10:28 <@Evilpig> the ftp is on another virtual host 10:28 <@Evilpig> it's ultra low overhead 10:29 <@Evilpig> the minecraft is the major one cause with just plex I wasn't seeing evena load of 5 10:33 < aestetix> vagina 10:36 <@Evilpig> wow it doesn't want to stop 10:38 -!- MinecraftRelay [~bot@wilpig.org] has quit [] 10:38 -!- MinecraftRelay [~bot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 10:40 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 10:46 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 10:52 -!- MinecraftRelay [~bot@wilpig.org] has quit [] 10:52 <@Evilpig> weird 10:53 -!- MinecraftRelay [~bot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 11:48 <@anarchival> So between benthemeek and sophrinix and David Sedaris now I want to sign back up for Audible. 11:48 <@anarchival> But then I'll just listen to Melvyn Bragg books all the time. 11:49 <@anarchival> The dulcet tones of Robert Powell. Mmmm. 11:49 <@anarchival> Well, not really dulcet. More nasal Oxford scholar. But still. Mmmm. 11:50 <@anarchival> In related news, my entire body hurts and I should probably quit the Parthenon. 11:51 <@anarchival> OMG waaaaant: http://www.audible.com/pd/Bios-Memoirs/Elizabeth-Audiobook/B002V8L0OO/ref=a_search_c4_2_4_srTtl?qid=1390150240&sr=2-4 11:51 < GateKeeper> Title: Elizabeth Audiobo (at www.audible.com) 11:51 < klixa> hey anarchival 11:51 <@anarchival> I'm sorry this shit has absolutely nothing to do with hacking I'll stop posting it. 11:51 <@anarchival> klixa: Hi! 11:52 < klixa> anarchival: i didn't mind...but then again i do it too :/ 11:52 <@anarchival> Well this one has something to do with hacking. Sort of. http://www.audible.com/pd/History/The-Gunpowder-Plot-Audiobook/B0032N5106/ref=a_search_c4_2_6_srTtl?qid=1390150240&sr=2-6 11:52 < GateKeeper> Title: Th (at www.audible.com) 11:53 < klixa> so does this https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1236823_236310819884451_1285816057_n.jpg 11:53 < klixa> ok i lied...its my babie's first trip to the ocean in malibu 11:53 < klixa> i just wanted to show someone :/ 11:54 < klixa> anarchival: ...um, i think maybe your link has as much to do wiht hacking as mine lol 11:54 <@anarchival> klixa: Awwww. 11:55 <@anarchival> klixa: Gunpowder plot = Guy Fawkes = V for Vendetta = Anonymous 11:55 < klixa> oh 11:55 <@anarchival> klixa: This is like an episode of Connections. 11:57 < klixa> i have never seen that show...but i am readin about it now 12:06 <@eryc> pussy 12:06 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: for fucks sake press stop on your damned bluray player 12:12 <@anarchival> "We're sorry. Due to publishing rights restrictions, we are not authorized to sell this item in the country where you live." 12:12 <@anarchival> Right. Okay. So now it does have something to do with hacking. 12:12 <@anarchival> W-T-F. 12:14 <@anarchival> Problem solved. http://kickass.to/david-starkey-elizabeth-t2192612.html 12:15 <@Evilpig> good job at demonstrating why region locks and other methods to control access to content for monetary reasons are ineffective and directly stimulating the secondary market 12:15 <@anarchival> Evilpig: Yea, verily. Amen. 12:18 < klixa> my bday is tomorrow...i think i need to get drunk...its been about 2 years since i last drank 12:19 < RangerZ> klixa: happy pre-bday 12:19 < RangerZ> happy pre-pre-hangover pt4 movie 12:19 < RangerZ> ;) 12:19 <@Evilpig> klixa: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBbS1g9ReE8#t=31 12:19 < klixa> RangerZ: lol thanks 12:21 < klixa> hmmm..after Evilpig's link maybe i dont need to get drunk :/ 12:21 <@Evilpig> This is insanity! I got five seasons of a show all in 720p, all in mkv except one. Who does that? why would you tolerate one oddball in the batch? 12:22 < RangerZ> http://www.vindy.com/news/2014/jan/19/ysu-forum-explores-music-in-video-games/?print kinda cool 12:22 < GateKeeper> Title: YSU forum explores music in video games (at www.vindy.com) 12:25 <@anarchival> Unfortunately, my tastes are so obscure they are not easily torrented. 12:25 <@anarchival> Then again, Shadowlands has 20 seeders now, so maybe this Starkey book will stage a comeback. 12:26 < klixa> i used to have obscure tastes...but everything i liked is easy to find now 12:27 < klixa> i used to go to Tower Records and spend like $50 for an import cd...now i can pi..download it in seconds 12:27 * klixa spent ALL her money form high school jobs at Tower :/ 12:28 <@anarchival> klixa: Heh. I was just the opposite. Had to spend all my money as a teenager on things like rent, food. Pirated all my music. It was a big deal when I had enough discretionary income when I could actually walk into a store and buy a CD. 12:29 <@anarchival> It was Hello Nasty by the Beastie Boys. :) 12:29 < klixa> i was an exchange student in Germany for the summer...i paid for that myself 12:29 < klixa> other than that...mn that sux you had to pay rent as a teen 12:30 < klixa> speaking of beastie boys...cookie puss 12:31 < klixa> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DOMxm0o12c 12:31 < GateKeeper> Title: Cookie Puss - Beastie Boys - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 12:32 <@anarchival> klixa: My Mom's mental and physical health hit the skids when I was a teenager. 12:33 < klixa> :( 12:33 <@anarchival> klixa: Thank God I knew shit about computers, or I would have ended up stripping. It was tempting, frankly. 12:33 <@anarchival> klixa: I actually kept it together for about a year before I had to drop out of school completely and go to work. 12:33 <@anarchival> klixa: 1999 was a hell year for me. I still don't know how I pulled it off. 12:34 <@anarchival> klixa: In terms of keeping her alive, and keeping us from being homeless. 12:34 < klixa> i cant imagine how i would have reacted to that...but im kinda the dependent type anyway 12:35 * Evilpig shakes a fistfull of $1's at anarchival 12:36 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:36 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 12:36 < klixa> i was very sheltered as a child...i literally believed, even at age 17, only people in nyc did heroin, etc 12:37 * anarchival is torrenting a book about the Gunpowder Plot because it's blocked in her country. 12:37 < klixa> anarchival everything is blocked in my country ;) 12:38 <@Dagmar> Yer in China? 12:39 <@anarchival> Dagmar: Nope. 12:39 <@Dagmar> The Vatican? 12:39 <@anarchival> Dagmar: No sir. 12:39 < klixa> anarchival: where are you 12:40 <@anarchival> klixa: Same place where my Momma dropped me. 12:40 < klixa> oh...you're one of those 12:40 < klixa> well...im in college station, tx...this week anyway 12:40 < klixa> NSA you dont scare me 12:41 <@anarchival> All three of these books don't have any seeders. Sigh. You win, IP lawyers. You win. 12:41 <@eryc> thief 12:41 * klixa beats the hell out of eryc 12:41 <@Dagmar> Amazon will likely ship them anywher 12:42 * Dickie throws a chair 12:42 * klixa steals Dickie's rooster 12:44 <@anarchival> Dagmar: Sure, but they're audio books. I shouldn't have to dirty my hands with physical media. 12:45 <@Dagmar> That's why you download *printed* books, instead of the "Read It To Me" editions. 12:45 < klixa> using one's eyes is tedious tho... pfft 12:45 <@anarchival> Dagmar: But I enjoy Robert Powell's voice... 12:46 < klixa> actually, i dont like audiobooks... i can't retain the info if i hear it 12:51 <@Dagmar> Oh of all the 12:51 <@Dagmar> DJB reached a new low with doing things to be stupidly pedantic 12:51 <@Dagmar> gnupg too big to fit on floppies, which _they still support for installation_ 12:51 <@Dagmar> ...so he writes his own crypto? 12:52 <@Dagmar> WTF is wrong with splitting a fucking tarball 12:52 <@Dagmar> Dude needs medication. 12:54 < klixa> the internet makes it possible for everyone to be a stalker... 12:55 < klixa> im on google+ and its like "maybe you know these people?" and of course I dont...but people i know know them...so with no effort we can spy on friends of friends 12:56 <@anarchival> klixa: I receive almost daily emails from Facebook which ask me if I know the dude who took my virginity. Which is one of the lesser reasons I hate FB. 12:57 < klixa> block him 12:57 < klixa> then it wont ask you anything about him 12:58 < klixa> and on that note... why is virginity *taken*? its lame 12:59 <@anarchival> klixa: But then I'd have to reactivate the account I canceled over two years ago. 12:59 <@anarchival> klixa: You see why it's insane I'm getting those emails? 13:00 < klixa> make a filter then and forward them to trash? 13:00 <@anarchival> klixa: really it's just funny to me. "Yeah, I 'know' him. What of it?" 13:00 <@anarchival> klixa: yeah, I pretty well gave mine away 13:01 < klixa> you were the one who was 31 right? 13:02 <@anarchival> klixa: Yep. 13:02 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02 <@anarchival> klixa: I chose him by saying to myself, "the next guy I can physically stomach touching me, who asks me out on a date, is very quickly getting laid." 13:02 < klixa> do you not like men? 13:03 < klixa> or... i dont understand 13:03 <@anarchival> klixa: I hate men. Unfortunately, I'm straight. 13:03 < klixa> im kinda the opposite...i *love* men 13:03 < klixa> they are soooo cute and stuyff 13:03 < klixa> stuff* 13:03 <@anarchival> klixa: they can be cute sometimes. Like puppies who mess on the floor. 13:04 < klixa> tho they can be evil 13:04 * klixa vents for a second 13:04 <@sdodson> It's ok, women are irrational. 13:05 < klixa> my bf of 13 years, after i get pregnant pretty much quits talking to me... so i find someone else... and he ends it cause i still lived with the bf (as roommates) whih he knew the whole time 13:05 < klixa> /end vent 13:06 < klixa> sdodson: men can be too 13:06 <@brimstone> 13 years is a long time to date 13:06 <@sdodson> yeah, real real long 13:06 < klixa> it was a marriage w/o the credntials 13:06 <@anarchival> klixa: men who turn their backs on their own offspring aren't even human 13:06 <@sdodson> i'm getting "zomg we're never getting married" after 1.5yrs 13:07 < klixa> anarchival: well we're back together now...but not really...it s fomrality because he does like his kid 13:07 < klixa> but he wants to either have 3-somes ALL the time...or someone else on the side 13:07 <@sdodson> When did we actually get females in this channel. 13:07 < klixa> i dont want my kid in daycare...so im here... but... i dunno 13:08 <@sdodson> I'm so confused. 13:08 <@anarchival> klixa: I hate it when laymen diagnose other people, but..."big fucking issues" 13:08 < klixa> sdodson: someone said there were free shoes here so me and anarchival showed up 13:08 * eryc hands out shoes 13:08 <@anarchival> sdodson: we're infiltrating the group. It's a feminist conspiracy. 13:08 <@sdodson> until now, we've always had to keep eryc in the kitchen 13:09 <@oddball> various members of nashville2600 haven't managed to scare these off... yet. 13:09 <@Evilpig> working on it 13:09 <@eryc> give it time 13:09 * klixa cant be scared 13:09 <@anarchival> oddball: oh no they have, I'm just hanging out here for the lulz 13:09 < klixa> bring it 13:09 <@sdodson> now i must go do dishes whilest my gf preps to watch her football games 13:09 <@sdodson> it's odd like that 13:09 <@oddball> Of course, a few of those are now in "that other channel." 13:10 < klixa> oddball: "that other channel"? 13:10 <@sdodson> oddball, like who? 13:10 <@Evilpig> klixa: don't ask 13:10 < klixa> i already did ask :P 13:10 <@Evilpig> un-ask 13:11 < klixa> persuade me 13:11 <@sdodson> Evilpig, the skydog clan? 13:11 <@Evilpig> when the great split happened the followers of the twat went and formed a new channel 13:11 <@sdodson> So when did the whole skydog erruption happen? I've been out of the loop-de-loop 13:11 * eryc didn't notice anyone left 13:11 <@anarchival> Evilpig: are you talking about the Consortium channel? 13:11 < klixa> Evilpig: ok, this is the good channel then, and the other one sucks? 13:11 <@Evilpig> sdodson: years ago. at least three or four now 13:11 <@sdodson> Are we all still united on the fact that eryc is a troll? AT least tell me that's still the same. 13:12 <@Evilpig> yes 13:12 * klixa trolls eryc 13:12 <@eryc> tits or gtfo 13:12 <@Evilpig> ^ 13:12 < klixa> im getting drunk tomorrow...maybe 13:12 <@sdodson> I think I last made it to Phreaknic in 2008? I think I went two years while I've lived in Raleigh. That drive from RAleigh to Nashville sucks even with my newer car that has more than 10hp. 13:13 <@sdodson> eryc, if she delivers pls2b emailing me copies 13:13 <@Evilpig> that drive isn't that bad. Notlarry and I did it 13:13 <@Evilpig> granted i'm trying to get Notlarry up to jersey now 13:13 <@Evilpig> and another unnamed faction is trying to get him to goto vegas 13:13 <@sdodson> Evilpig, I did it alone. This was before the raleigh people discovered phreaknic and started going there enmasse as soon as Al Strowger started going. 13:13 <@Dagmar> eep.http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/01/18/0343204/porn-will-be-bitcoins-killer-app 13:13 < GateKeeper> Title: Porn Will Be Bitcoin's Killer App - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org) 13:13 <@anarchival> Evilpig: So *that's* why he's shipping you women in crates. I thought he was just being creepy. 13:14 <@Dagmar> In other news: Fire is fucking hot 13:14 <@anarchival> Dagmar: Once the pornographers embrace Bitcoin, it's all over. It will replace the dollar within five years. 13:14 < klixa> Evilpig: vegas? for defcon? 13:14 <@Dagmar> Probably 13:15 <@Evilpig> anarchival: no. he's just offering to ship them cause he's a good friend 13:15 < klixa> .me is considering going 13:15 * klixa is considering going * 13:15 <@Evilpig> I do have tickets for hope 13:15 < klixa> i just dorve from nashville to LA then to SF Bay...and now to Texas 13:16 < klixa> raleigh to nashville is NOTHING 13:16 * eryc spots a cactus 13:16 * klixa pretends to seduce eryc just to push him into a cactus... 13:17 <@oddball> I keep thinking about going to Defcon. 13:17 <@Evilpig> nashville -> jersey while pulling a trailer sucked ass 13:17 < klixa> Evilpig: oh man...pulling a trailer any distance sucks 13:17 <@oddball> Of course, I also keep thinking about going to Vegas for the SHOT show... which just happened. 13:17 < klixa> vegas has pretty lights and HUGE colorful drinks 13:17 <@Evilpig> I need to get back out to vegas. my buddy jason has been harassing me about visiting 13:17 <@oddball> So I've been told. 13:17 < klixa> i used to live there 13:18 < klixa> i could see stratosphere from my balcony 13:18 <@Evilpig> my cousin is about to pop too. I should get out and see them 13:18 < klixa> yet i NEVER went to the strip...except to go the apple store once... 13:18 <@oddball> If I ever manage to save the money, I might talk to a few buddies about making a trip out there. 13:18 < klixa> oddball: do it 13:18 <@Evilpig> oddball: let me know. I gots the hook ups 13:18 <@oddball> Of course, that means I'd have to stop spending money on guns and conventions. 13:18 < klixa> everyone needs to go to Vegas at least once...its unreal 13:19 <@anarchival> klixa: I've only been to Vegas once. Funny enough, with the guy I was just talking about. Won $400 at cards. Had to spend it to get back home because we missed our flight. 13:19 <@oddball> oops 13:19 <@anarchival> Which just goes to show, Vegas WILL take your money, one way or another. 13:19 < klixa> I dont gamble 13:19 <@Dagmar> heh 13:20 <@anarchival> Dude was also texting his ex the entire time were there, who had mysteriously come out at the same time we did, so in conclusion it wasn't a great trip. 13:20 < klixa> anarchival: yea thats the dark side of men 13:21 <@anarchival> I'd like to go back, though, just to play cards. It's a fun place for that. 13:21 <@eryc> i don't remember much from my trip to vegas 13:21 <@oddball> I know a guy that's the "must have coffee" type. He discovered that it was cheaper to drop some coins into the slots and partake of the rather good free coffee than it was to hit up the hotel's Starbucks. 13:21 < klixa> oddball: i have done that 13:21 <@Dagmar> That's because Starbucks is shitty, overpriced crap. 13:22 < klixa> i <3 Starbucks :| 13:22 < klixa> I prefer Peet's tho 13:22 < klixa> but...they only have them in a few cities 13:22 <@Dagmar> klixa: Yeah when you're next in Nashville I gotta place to take you 13:22 < klixa> Dagmar: :) ok 13:23 <@eryc> the dungeon 13:23 <@Dagmar> No, that's in Atlanta 13:23 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... this was Ian. While he will agree with you on which is better, he will happily slurp down Starbuck's. 13:23 <@Dagmar> eyeroll 13:24 <@eryc> i really need to learn how to cross compile 13:24 < klixa> i like starbucks because i travel so much...it's one of the constants in my life.. along with irc 13:24 <@oddball> And I guess it was Starbuck's or the single serving of Folger's in the room. 13:24 <@Evilpig> damnit. days with nothing going on at the dc are bad 13:25 * oddball starts unplugging things at random to brighten Evilpig's mood. 13:25 <@eryc> i thought you were going to find me milf tumblrs Evilpig 13:26 <@Dagmar> Just get a rake and pretend the concentrator is a big, horizontal plate of spaghetti 13:26 <@Evilpig> https://twitter.com/Wilpig/status/424970954931175424 13:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / Wilpig: The sign of a slow day at the ... (at twitter.com) 13:27 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: So... can you shop that to say "Easy Fiber, single mode"? 13:27 <@eryc> i kinda want some easy cheese now 13:27 <@Evilpig> No results for milf. 13:27 <@Evilpig> But don't fret. Some results have been omitted. Turn off filtering or try one of the popular searches below. 13:27 <@sdodson> eryc, you getting married? 13:27 <@eryc> probably 13:27 <@sdodson> eryc, can i come? 13:27 <@eryc> sure 13:28 <@sdodson> eryc, i'll wear leather chaps, is that cool? 13:28 <@eryc> fine with me 13:28 <@eryc> you want to come with us to Secrets in Punta Cana too? 13:29 <@eryc> not a honeymoon just a vacation 13:30 <@eryc> they have this cool pool http://www.cheapcaribbean.com/upload/lo_316/re_3525/file_3414074898646243191620x310.jpg 13:31 <@oddball> I've heard those "all inclusive" places can be pretty nice. 13:31 <@Evilpig> i'd rather go here. http://tensingpen.com/seagrape2.html 13:31 < GateKeeper> Title: Tensing Pen | Seagrape II | Destination Resort Negril, Jamaica (at tensingpen.com) 13:32 <@Evilpig> some friends of mine went and had a blast 13:32 -!- diz [~diz@c-98-211-17-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:32 <@eryc> ah jamaica 13:32 -!- diz is now known as Guest71500 13:32 <@eryc> i like this pic too http://www.traveldiscounters.ca/Travel-Vacations/images/Secrets-Sanctuary-Cap-Cana.jpg 13:33 -!- Guest71500 [~diz@c-98-211-17-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:33 < klixa> speaking of jamaica... http://reedsinc.com/product/reeds-original-ginger-brew/ im addicted to that stuff 13:33 < GateKeeper> Title: Reed’s Ginger Brew | Reeds, Inc.Reeds, Inc. (at reedsinc.com) 13:33 -!- diz_ [~diz@c-98-211-17-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:34 <@oddball> It's good... I still like Blenheim better. Damn shame no on ein the state sells it anymore. 13:35 < klixa> i havent had Blenheim...i will have to try it 13:36 <@Dagmar> You want it _chilled_ 13:37 <@Dagmar> Warm, it feels like battery acid 13:37 < klixa> that sounds delightful! 13:37 * klixa makes note to _chill_ it 13:37 <@oddball> Make sure to take a big swig at first! :p 13:38 < klixa> i eat ginger all the time.... :P 13:38 <@Evilpig> feels like ackbar should be making an appearance anytime now 13:38 < klixa> tmi/fun fact ginger increases milk supply 13:39 <@eryc> ginger makes bigger boobs, got it 13:40 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you want me to make a zip of this world? 13:40 <@Evilpig> it's gonna be roughly 3GB 13:40 <@Evilpig> before compression 13:41 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: what? 13:41 <@Shadow404> that isnt e 13:41 <@Shadow404> *me 13:41 < klixa> this is the most beautiful thing i have seen today http://www.adafruit.com/products/306 13:41 < GateKeeper> Title: Digital RGB LED Weatherproof Strip 32 LED - (1m) ID: 306 - $29.95 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits (at www.adafruit.com) 13:41 <@eryc> heh 13:42 <@eryc> you would like the 400 rgb led strip i have that i wrote a network api for 13:43 < klixa> i probably would 13:43 * klixa likes pretty light up colors 13:43 <@Evilpig> shadow404 started watching Suburgatory - Homecoming on My NSZ-GS7/GX70. 13:43 <@Shadow404> yeah, one sec 13:45 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: it's compressing now. i'll ping you once it's done and it will be in that place where I put things under /Upload/ackis.tgz 13:46 <@Evilpig> or if you want direct access to it I can set you up with shell access if you send me a key 13:46 <@Shadow404> gahh, strick just posted a video playlist of pictrures from "furocon", now i feel more dirty 13:46 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Actually I *think* we're in good shape 13:46 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: That place I was at last night has some of the new flowers and so on 13:46 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: not me watching -> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J7uzeEjx92E/UtwdJCYhYsI/AAAAAAAAIE4/pDAgX1jvjMk/w1184-h888-no/20140119_134444.jpg 13:47 <@Dagmar> ...and there's definitely terrain breakage betwen old and new areas 13:47 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: not you was paused for roughly 12 hours. 13:47 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: are you tweaking the world? 13:48 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: paused? does that pull data? 13:48 <@Evilpig> 1.6G/media/Upload/ackis.tgz 13:48 <@Evilpig> it keeps the transcode process active 13:48 <@Shadow404> ah, so exit plex whenn done? 13:48 <@Shadow404> i can tell her to do that from now on 13:48 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: I don't think we need to just yet 13:48 <@Evilpig> it remembers where you were in stuff 13:49 <@Shadow404> does it load up the machine? if so i can have her exit plex? 13:49 <@Shadow404> yes or no? 13:49 <@Evilpig> yes 13:49 <@Shadow404> ok, ill let her know in future 13:50 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: the surface map is complete. the cave maps are not. they'll fill in as shit gets touched though 13:50 <@Shadow404> !Shadow404: ok, will do 13:50 <@Evilpig> or we can trigger spot updates with /dynmap radiusrender x 13:50 <@Dagmar> I think something changed with dungeon spawners 13:51 <@Shadow404> i found a spawner under the flying castle next to mine 13:51 <@Shadow404> setup a guanlet to funnel baddies into for xp 13:51 <@Dagmar> I suspect they now abort spawning if the position they pick in the area contains a block 13:51 <@Dagmar> I tried to bury one, and i only spawns zombies occasionally now 13:52 <@Dagmar> s/i/it/ 13:52 <@Evilpig> well I had that massive skeleton xp farming spot if I could remember where it was 13:53 <@Evilpig> i'm afraid to see what is at the mega spawner 13:53 <@Evilpig> http://dynmap.wilpig.org/?zoom=7&x=-4838&y=64&z=750 13:53 < GateKeeper> Title: Minecraft Dynamic Map (at dynmap.wilpig.org) 14:00 < MinecraftRelay> this zombie is in gold armor 14:00 <@Dagmar> They can do that now 14:00 <@Shadow404> do we get rare items if we kill it? 14:00 <@Dagmar> Also, those goddamn wizard or whatever will spawn now 14:00 < MinecraftRelay> the xp machine is still working 14:00 < RangerZ> it got ALL the way through ghost n goblins without getting hit once? 14:00 < MinecraftRelay> and someone left cats down here. 14:00 <@anarchival> One of my favorite Minecraft projects was building The Crypt, in which skeleton spawners dumped their victims into lava, while the bones and arrows flowed in water to a basin outside the building for collection. 14:01 <@Dagmar> So if you see what looks like a villager just hanging around somwhere not a villager, be on your guard 14:01 <@anarchival> My wheat farm was always well-fertilized. 14:01 <@Dagmar> er somewhere not a village 14:01 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: whos ashley? 14:01 < MinecraftRelay> shadow404 don't be a putz 14:01 <@Dagmar> doh 14:01 <@Shadow404> ohh, burn that pic then 14:01 <@Shadow404> here, ill come help 14:02 <@Dagmar> anarchival: I just plant shit wherever I'm working. Sometimes they grow into "bulk operation" farms 14:02 <@anarchival> Dagmar: I was working towards covering an entire server with wheat, but I quit before I completed it. 14:02 <@Dagmar> Considering that one eventually winds up with craptons of everything, I had to start culling the amount of time I was spending growing and harvesting shit 14:03 < MinecraftRelay> lol. so many sheep 14:03 <@Dagmar> anarchival: You might want to investigate how those maps are generatd 14:03 <@Dagmar> wilpig: I've been "adjusting" the population over at the former Eggdome for awhile based on what makes the server start cutting corners 14:04 <@Dagmar> Hence why Nippleton has only like 10-12 each thing 14:06 < MinecraftRelay> Death: *fell* shadow404_lang got a little too close to the edge! 14:06 <@Shadow404> wtf 14:07 <@Dagmar> heh 14:07 <@Dagmar> Shift key 14:07 <@Dagmar> Just think of it as saying "I am near a ledge". 14:09 <@Shadow404> i was in the middle of the forest and all the sudden 14:09 <@Shadow404> got lifted 100ft in the air 14:10 <@Shadow404> and dropped 14:10 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: You missed 14:14 < MinecraftRelay> Death: shadow404_lang was forged into obsidian by molten lava. 14:18 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1TiSYsqPbQ 14:18 < GateKeeper> Title: Heres A Snowden Leak We Shouldnt Know About - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 14:18 < RangerZ> we DID know this was possible 14:19 < RangerZ> and we KNEW the US was involved with stuxnet 14:19 < RangerZ> fucking DOD retirement for... one of the generals?... showed that stuxnet was part of his "accomplishments" 14:20 < RangerZ> plus they used the private crytpo keys from MS's "secure" driver system 14:20 < RangerZ> from Realtek ... and ... someone else, lol 14:22 < RangerZ> Realtek and JMicron Technology 14:25 <@eryc> you seem excited 14:41 <@Dagmar> You seem *surprised* 14:59 < RangerZ> ehh 15:16 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: Take my hand… take my whole life too] 15:20 < MinecraftRelay> Interesting timing 15:20 < MinecraftRelay> lol 15:20 < MinecraftRelay> brought you something from teh store house 15:23 < MinecraftRelay> Finally. 15:23 < MinecraftRelay> hrmm? 15:23 < MinecraftRelay> Finding something appropriate to stick the other ladder part on 15:25 < MinecraftRelay> you find the chest? 15:25 < MinecraftRelay> Whoa. Good lord. heh 15:26 < MinecraftRelay> That'll make clearing the area a bit easier 15:26 < MinecraftRelay> indeed 15:26 < MinecraftRelay> I am thinking I will probably see if there's enough clay around here to 15:26 < MinecraftRelay> redo the walls with dyed clay 15:27 < MinecraftRelay> Clearly I need to make this whole thing 1M higher. heh 15:34 < MinecraftRelay> Damn cubes are spawning again 15:34 < MinecraftRelay> heh 15:35 < MinecraftRelay> Something tells me this could be useful 15:54 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 15:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:57 <@Evilpig> gonna go see if my chicken is thawed out enough to make stir fry 16:15 < MinecraftRelay> well dag, if you need xp this farm is still working. slowly, but working 16:16 < MinecraftRelay> just have to idle here to build up skeletons then collect later 16:16 < MinecraftRelay> Oh I think I'll be fine 16:17 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 16:18 <@Evilpig> http://dynmap.wilpig.org/?mapname=cave&zoom=9&x=-4807&y=64&z=1664 16:18 < GateKeeper> Title: Minecraft Dynamic Map (at dynmap.wilpig.org) 16:19 <@Evilpig> you can see the skeletons just piling up. lol 16:32 < MinecraftRelay> I think the spawn point has been fixed 17:02 < MinecraftRelay> you weren't kidding about the noise of the minecarts 17:05 < MinecraftRelay> Yep. They make a racket now 17:59 <@Dagmar> It looks like using a minecart with a command block we could *really* speed up rail line creation. 18:38 -!- sdodson [~Scott@twdp-174-109-245-131.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:02 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-48-224.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:09 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21 < RangerZ> you know... i love how medicines have the fucking opposite effect on me 19:21 < RangerZ> ugh 19:21 < RangerZ> stimulants(at least some)... make me tired 19:22 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 19:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 19:24 < klixa> RangerZ: are you ADHD? 19:24 < RangerZ> yeah 19:24 < klixa> k 19:24 < RangerZ> aderol = sleepy 19:24 <@Corydon76-work> alcohol? 19:24 < RangerZ> where as... cylert = allows focus (as does aderol) 19:24 < RangerZ> nope, i haven't drank any in months 19:25 < RangerZ> ridolin(sp?) bouncing off walls 19:25 < klixa> i havent drank in about 2 y ears...i need to fix that 19:25 < RangerZ> btw 19:25 < RangerZ> happy bday klixa 19:25 < RangerZ> 27 now? 19:25 <@Corydon76-work> If any of the Nashville crowd want to see Peaches, he'll be competing in full drag at Play tonight. 19:25 < klixa> thanks RangerZ... its tomorrow but thanks :) 19:25 < RangerZ> ohh 19:25 < RangerZ> oh well 19:25 < RangerZ> screw it 19:25 < RangerZ> you don't one tomorrow 19:25 < RangerZ> ;) lol 19:25 <@Corydon76-work> First show is at 11 19:26 < RangerZ> Corydon76-work: I would actually go to that tonight 19:26 < RangerZ> but I gotta finish up this mooc app 19:26 <@Corydon76-work> Heh 19:26 < RangerZ> it starts tue 19:26 < RangerZ> lol 19:26 < RangerZ> because... yeah... 19:26 < RangerZ> lets decide to finally look at the code 3 days before it starts 19:27 < RangerZ> and have the grad student do the work over the week 19:27 < RangerZ> ohh wait 19:27 < RangerZ> sorry.... 19:27 <@Corydon76-work> so, in other words, Tuesday is your alpha trial? 19:27 < RangerZ> weekend 19:27 < RangerZ> nah, the app is almost 100% generated from a model 19:27 < RangerZ> so it works 19:27 <@Corydon76-work> Right, so, in other words, Tuesday is your alpha trial 19:28 < RangerZ> just going through and adding some more fields, which I could have done months ago... 19:28 <@Corydon76-work> And Wednesday, you'll be rearchitecting from scratch 19:28 < RangerZ> lol 19:28 < RangerZ> pretty much 19:29 <@Corydon76-work> One server, tens of thousands of clients? 19:29 < RangerZ> thankfully i got the 'edu account' 19:29 <@Corydon76-work> concurrent clients? 19:29 < RangerZ> for github 19:29 < RangerZ> ohh no, completely non-networked 19:29 < RangerZ> at this point 19:29 <@Corydon76-work> How is it a MooC if it's not online? 19:30 < RangerZ> the class is online 19:30 < RangerZ> 3 courses 19:30 < RangerZ> first one is UI/android design 19:30 < RangerZ> 2nd is android adv arch/software patterns 19:30 < RangerZ> 3rd is android apps and cloud services 19:30 <@Corydon76-work> Hmmm. 19:30 <@Corydon76-work> Any way to audit the course? 19:30 < RangerZ> yeah, they are completely free 19:30 < RangerZ> hold on 19:31 <@Corydon76-work> That actually sounds interesting 19:31 < RangerZ> https://www.coursera.org/course/android 19:31 < GateKeeper> Title: Coursera.org (at www.coursera.org) 19:31 < RangerZ> thats the first one 19:31 < RangerZ> Univ. of Maryland's Adam porter is doing that part 19:31 < RangerZ> then the 2nd/3rd are vandy profs 19:32 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz9FWJ0zQUo 19:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Mobile Cloud Computing with Android - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 19:32 <@Corydon76-work> Do you already have to know Java to effectively take the course? 19:32 < RangerZ> there is 'one' of the promo videos that doug made 19:32 < RangerZ> no 19:32 < RangerZ> not really, just know what a variable is, etc 19:32 <@Corydon76-work> Ah, good 19:32 < RangerZ> android paradigms are 'very' different than 'java' 19:33 < RangerZ> for 'app' wise atleast 19:33 < RangerZ> the internal logic of a class is pure java, with android spicing 19:33 < RangerZ> and if you take all 3 courses, you can get a special cert. and a capstone course that coursera is offering 19:34 < RangerZ> no 'credit' but will look good, etc 19:34 < RangerZ> and only really 3hrs a week 'required' 19:34 < RangerZ> work 19:34 < RangerZ> but alright, brb, shower 19:35 <@Corydon76-work> Later 19:35 < klixa> Corydon76-work: you work odd hours 19:36 <@Corydon76-work> -work and -home are the two names I settled on long ago. They alternate on their own, based upon reconnections 19:36 <@Corydon76-work> But yes, I do 19:36 < klixa> i dont feel like i can trust your nick anymore :| 19:37 <@Corydon76-work> I'm sure the warehouse manager was wondering why I responded to his ticket after midnight 19:37 < klixa> maybe...lots of people are night people tho 19:38 <@Corydon76-work> My place of employment is a real 7-5 shop 19:38 <@Corydon76-work> Most of the staff leaves at 5 or before 19:39 <@Corydon76-work> Which actually makes sense, given that we ship product, and we are constrained by when the various shippers will pick up product for the day 19:40 <@Corydon76-work> Warehouse lights actually go out at 5. Most of the shipping is done by 4. 19:44 <@anarchival> Corydon76-work: Tell Peaches to break a leg. I wish I could be there! 19:44 <@eryc> RangerZ: nice 19:44 < RangerZ> Corydon76-work: i'm going to be working on the server part here soon, with my partner, she and I are going to use the one project for all 3 of our courses, plus our research for two projects 19:44 < RangerZ> lol 19:45 -!- anarchival [~amberadam@unaffiliated/anarchival] has left #se2600 [] 19:45 < RangerZ> eryc: you should sign up too, everyone should, it's going to be the best condensed way you'll ever find thats semi-structured 19:45 < RangerZ> and actually gives certs, LOL 19:45 <@eryc> yea i already signed up and passed the link to everyone 19:46 < RangerZ> the app has some flaws on the UI side, but thats semi-on purpose, I could have fixed them, but they are there so that they can be fixed in the course(s) 19:47 < RangerZ> but the DB and content provider, etc. are fucking rock solid 19:47 <@oddball> damnit... one of my cats keeps telling me he wants a shower. 19:47 < RangerZ> with only 1 (semi-issue) that is purposely left in also, but isn't actually a problem with only 1 app hitting it at a time 19:47 < RangerZ> in Catonese? 19:47 < RangerZ> thats a really hard dialect of Chinese 19:48 -!- anarchival [~amberadam@unaffiliated/anarchival] has joined #se2600 19:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o anarchival] by ChanServ 19:50 <@eryc> oh great, another programming class with bugs 19:50 <@eryc> you just can't get good help these days 19:50 < RangerZ> have to teach you about how you'll get real OSS code 19:51 <@eryc> hah 19:51 < RangerZ> we can't all be nagios, and just fork our code for us 19:51 < RangerZ> and hijack domains 19:51 < RangerZ> -_- 19:51 <@eryc> heh whats this? 19:51 <@eryc> did i miss nagios drama? 19:53 < RangerZ> yeah, nagios corp. redirected nagios-plugins.com 19:53 < RangerZ> and said they are the 'real' source 19:53 <@eryc> ah neat 19:53 < RangerZ> and http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/01/19/0454222/nagios-plugins-web-site-taken-over-by-nagios 19:53 < GateKeeper> Title: Nagios-Plugins Web Site Taken Over By Nagios - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org) 19:54 < RangerZ> and 'monitoring-plugins.org' is the 'fork' 19:54 <@eryc> good thing i dont use nagios i guess 19:54 < RangerZ> as a person who has 19:54 <@eryc> thats a bit presumptious 19:54 < RangerZ> i'd be fucking pissed 19:54 < RangerZ> if i install software, and someone else changes the upgrade code path 19:55 < RangerZ> if i 'upgrade' it should be from the same developers 19:55 <@eryc> i assume all software will only be available for the moment that i'm downloading it 19:55 <@eryc> and the future is never guaranteed 19:55 < RangerZ> or say 'you can't upgrade automatically, you have to pick to install one of the two new forks' 19:55 <@eryc> thus, i archive everything 19:55 <@eryc> and compile everything from source 19:56 <@eryc> and mirror as much as possible 19:56 < RangerZ> I don't disagree that you should do that (or mirror the rpm/etc repo, of what you use) 19:56 < RangerZ> but if you have a URL of where to get upgrades, and it changes ownership, something should be done 19:56 < RangerZ> but basically... 19:57 < RangerZ> this just proves openBSD's decision to go to signed cert. package system 19:59 < RangerZ> and honestly, I didn't realize that linux packages _weren't_ signed 19:59 < RangerZ> i'm so used to android, that I assumed they were 19:59 < RangerZ> its not like android's is 100% perfect 19:59 < RangerZ> but damn... 20:00 <@eryc> there's some kind of crypto keys for linux packages 20:00 <@eryc> i dont know what they're for but i often have to accept them 20:01 <@eryc> i think its per repo or something not for each package? 20:01 <@eryc> but yea i see your point 20:04 < RangerZ> eryc: yeah, its probably the server's SSL cert 20:04 <@eryc> nah its a gpg key 20:04 < RangerZ> hmm 20:04 < RangerZ> then i dunno 20:05 <@eryc> yea i dont ask questions i just blindly accept the keys and move on 20:05 < RangerZ> pretty much 20:06 <@anarchival> eryc: Do you use RH? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/redhat-centos-linux-verify-rhn-rhn-repo-package-gpg-keys/ 20:06 < RangerZ> users shouldn't be asked about that kind of thing manually, unless there is a conflict, which needs attention (but thats just a UX thing i've debated with UX 'experts' with, lol) 20:07 < RangerZ> UAC for win vista was the same problem, people just learned to blindly click 'yes' b/c they were asked too often 20:07 <@eryc> yea i use rhel, centos, ubuntu, debian, and arch 20:07 < RangerZ> and partridge and a pear tree? 20:07 < RangerZ> lol 20:07 <@eryc> oh and i have a gentoo box 20:07 <@eryc> and solaris and opensolaris 20:07 < RangerZ> eryc: lies 20:08 < RangerZ> no one has ever gotten gentoo to work 20:08 <@anarchival> eryc: No BSD? Psht. 20:08 <@eryc> no bsd sorry 20:08 <@eryc> RangerZ: yea i didnt, its a VPS i bought 20:08 <@anarchival> eryc: I was using Trisquel for awhile, but I got tired of all the crashes. 20:08 < RangerZ> PC-BSD is a surprisingly nice end-user BSD distro 20:08 * eryc googles 20:08 <@eryc> RangerZ: ya my coworker runs that for his desktop 20:09 < RangerZ> I really would like to go back to it and check it out again, i haven't touched ti for a while 20:09 <@eryc> he likes to tell me how cool it is 20:09 < RangerZ> freebsd with some spice 20:09 <@eryc> we also have a FreeNAS box 20:09 <@anarchival> eryc: The Galacians are making some spectacular effort at open source, but it's not entirely successful. 20:09 <@eryc> so that's bsd! 20:09 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:09 <@eryc> oic this is an ubuntu fork 20:10 <@eryc> i tried Mint for a bit but that turned out badly 20:10 <@eryc> my coworker also loves to tell me how awesome openbsd is 20:10 < klixa> i use bsd... the os flavor of it 20:11 < klixa> OS X* 20:11 <@eryc> i still haven't gotten over BSDi 20:11 <@eryc> *shudders* 20:11 < klixa> i used to use gentoo...until that day i typed emerge world 20:11 * klixa does not reccomend typing emerge world 20:13 <@eryc> i tried to get ebuilds working on solaris once 20:13 < klixa> speaking of solaris... #opensolaris were a bunch of assholes 20:14 <@eryc> it depends on the day 20:15 < RangerZ> openBSD from what I understand is only for people who live/breath/die by security and live/breath/sleep linux/unix 20:15 < klixa> well, the day i went 5 years ago, was an asshole day 20:15 < klixa> i need to try kali linux speaking of security 20:16 < RangerZ> klixa: I had the same problem with #windows back in the day around that timeframe, trying learn how to make torrent:// type URLs work in windows apps 20:16 < RangerZ> its _not_ hard to associate a URL like that with an app, but you _need_ the source of the app, it has to be designed to handle it 20:17 < RangerZ> but they acted like I was trying to bleed a stone, lol 20:17 < klixa> # windows is an ASL channel in my experience 20:18 < klixa> i used to go there when i was feeling helpful...but i have helped more people with windos in #macosx (bootcamp) 20:19 <@eryc> whats an ASL channel 20:19 < klixa> the concept of multiple partitions for most mac users is too hard to grasp for some reason 20:19 < klixa> eryc: age/sex/location 20:19 < RangerZ> ASL? 20:19 < RangerZ> ohh 20:19 < klixa> #wondows has a lot of that type of person 20:20 < RangerZ> nvm 20:20 < RangerZ> yeah... 20:20 < klixa> most use mirc 20:20 < RangerZ> I thought you meant American Sign Language 20:20 < RangerZ> for a minute 20:20 < RangerZ> and i was like... what?! 20:20 < klixa> hehe, no 20:22 < RangerZ> eryc: there is a really nice MOOC promo video that got professionally done, that will be released on tue, if you want to send out more emails, etc (the first day the MOOC pt 1 goes live) 20:22 < RangerZ> I'll PM it to you 20:22 <@eryc> k 20:23 <@eryc> i need to take the trash out and finish my laundry 20:24 < klixa> i hate sundays 20:24 < klixa> so quiet and depressing 20:29 < RangerZ> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/01/19/2350254/an-iowa-isps-metered-pricing-what-will-the-market-bear wow... 20:29 < GateKeeper> Title: An Iowa ISP's Metered Pricing: What Will the Market Bear? - Slashdot (at yro.slashdot.org) 20:29 < RangerZ> we know where google fiber is going next 20:29 < RangerZ> 25$ for 5gb 20:30 <@Evilpig> jesus christ 20:30 <@Evilpig> that's absurd 20:30 < RangerZ> 5 20:30 < RangerZ> 1300$ 20:30 < RangerZ> would have been my bill for DEC 20:30 < RangerZ> at 300 GB 20:30 < RangerZ> streaming a netflix movie is 10$~15$ 20:31 < RangerZ> this better be sued into fucking oblivion 20:31 <@Evilpig> the movie industry would love to hear that until they realized that they wouldn't be getting a cut of that pie 20:33 < RangerZ> ^ 20:34 < RangerZ> hell that makes comcraps' 10$ per 50gb seem 'reasonable' 20:34 < RangerZ> hell its 1$ per 5Gb vs 5$ per 1Gb, thats a 25x increase 20:38 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 20:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 20:44 < klixa> when i lived in memdocino i used dial up to avoid insane satellite prices 20:45 < klixa> my net wasnt even any slower ...well not for casual brwsing...obviously i couldnt torrent movies 20:49 < klixa> dafuq...now subway has siracha sauce....that fucking sauce is taking over the world 20:52 <@SuMo_D> the rooster will rule 20:53 < klixa> i guess resistance is futile :/ 20:54 <@SuMo_D> spray it with yogurt! yogurt everywhere! 21:08 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-44-154.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 21:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 21:50 < RangerZ> Evilpig: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwma2oaxF3c 21:50 < GateKeeper> Title: BANNED FROM TUMBLR - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 21:50 < RangerZ> hehe 21:54 <@Evilpig> this guy is already irritating me 21:54 < RangerZ> the last 1/3 is whats funny 21:54 < RangerZ> for you 21:54 < RangerZ> i skipped his 'past' videos 21:56 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwma2oaxF3c#t=225 ? 21:56 < GateKeeper> Title: BANNED FROM TUMBLR - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 21:57 < RangerZ> yeah 21:57 <@Evilpig> i'm not a femist but I hate him already too 21:58 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hwma2oaxF3c#t=367 is what is funny 21:58 < GateKeeper> Title: BANNED FROM TUMBLR - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 21:58 < RangerZ> his story 'about' tumblr 21:58 < RangerZ> him showing how stories are obviously false 21:59 <@Evilpig> what a moron. 21:59 <@Evilpig> the ceo of yahoo is a woman 21:59 < RangerZ> *shrugs* 21:59 < RangerZ> its not meant to be real 22:00 < RangerZ> i just thought it was an amusing image 22:00 <@Evilpig> http://www.forbes.com/profile/marissa-mayer/ 22:00 < GateKeeper> Title: Marissa Mayer - Forbes (at www.forbes.com) 22:00 <@Evilpig> I just found him annoying 22:01 <@Evilpig> he could have been going after youtube, or any other online community. meh 22:02 < RangerZ> hmm... so 'korra' from the live action air bender movie is going to be markie mark's daughter in Transformers 4 22:02 < RangerZ> with dinobots 22:03 < RangerZ> and none of the past cast is in the movie, which might help it 22:03 < RangerZ> except michael bay just flipped out bad at CES, lol 22:03 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tqRyzTvNKE 22:03 < GateKeeper> Title: Michael Bay leaves CES 2014 in Vegas - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 22:08 <@Dagmar> They made a third one? 22:08 <@Dagmar> No wonder he's flipping out 22:11 <@anarchival> http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/TheAmazingAtheist 22:11 < GateKeeper> Title: TheAmazingAtheist - RationalWiki (at rationalwiki.org) 22:12 <@anarchival> I had a cousin, he was a veteran, owned a porno shop over on Dickerson Road, where he eventually hanged himself. 22:12 <@anarchival> Anyway, before that he was an extraordinarily conservative, tea-partier kind of guy. 22:13 <@anarchival> I remember standing next to a picnic table at a family reunion, listening to his do a fifteen minute rant on how Public Television was a crime perpetuated by our government and he was fighting to destroy it. 22:14 <@anarchival> And I remember thinking, as I nodded and smiled, "Of all the horrible things in this world...public television? That's your fight? That's what you want to spend your energy railing against? Okay." 22:14 <@anarchival> That's sort of how I feel about The Amazing Atheist. Dude fighting for the right to make rape threats on the Internet. 22:14 * anarchival slow claps. 22:18 < klixa> lol 22:19 < aestetix> vagina 22:19 < klixa> yeah...that is an odd thing to pick as the one thing to fight for... 22:19 < RangerZ> klixa: no it isn't 22:19 < RangerZ> it gets views 22:19 < RangerZ> he makes good money from it 22:20 < RangerZ> you don't think fox news believes everything they spew out either do you? lol 22:20 < RangerZ> richar ales apparent does, if you believe the new book, but 'ehh' 22:20 < aestetix> is the super bowl today or something? 22:20 < aestetix> I'm seeing all this stuff on twitter 22:20 < RangerZ> aestetix: i heard there was football 22:20 < RangerZ> NFL Super Bowl XLVII 22:20 < RangerZ> NFL Super Bowl XLVII 22:20 < RangerZ> Sunday, February 2, 5:30 PM on FOX 22:21 < klixa> RangerZ: ok let me, um... reavaluate... i agree that if its making him money its worth doing 22:21 < RangerZ> guess it is finals before that 22:21 <@eryc> it was SF vs Seahawks 22:21 <@eryc> SF lost 22:21 < RangerZ> :( 22:21 < klixa> RangerZ: i had not considered the narcisitc angle...i was just thinking of it in pure form...with no external factors 22:21 <@eryc> Seahawks play Broncos in SB 22:21 < aestetix> oh 22:21 < RangerZ> denise takes that personally when they lose big games too 22:22 < klixa> super bowl is later...its alwyas after my bday 22:22 <@Evilpig> damnit. I'm craving keylime pie 22:22 < klixa> sounds good 22:23 * klixa bakes a keylime pie and shares with everyone 22:23 < RangerZ> is enjoying keylime pie now 22:23 < RangerZ> but I really don't like it ... so no emote for that 22:23 * eryc is eating keylime pie too 22:24 <@Evilpig> the store is open til midnight. I could run out and get one 22:25 < klixa> do it Evilpig....you wont be able to stop thinking about it 22:25 < klixa> key lime pie is sooooooo yummy 22:25 < klixa> imagine that creamy lim-ey goodness 22:26 <@Dagmar> My goodness, Schwans is all out 22:27 * anarchival takes a slice. Mmmm...key lime. 22:28 < aestetix> god I hate everyone 22:28 < aestetix> here's part of an email that just went over a list I'm on 22:28 < aestetix> "Libby has been anti-free speech and anti-demonstration and ANTI-community, as long as I have been here. It isn't a stretch to suggest she is a nazi..." 22:28 < aestetix> I'm kinda like "hey there wait a minute..." 22:28 <@anarchival> aestetix: Nazi might be a bit strong. I'd compromise and call her a fascist. 22:29 <@eryc> nazi's were all about community 22:29 < aestetix> anarchival: there's the surveillance system that city council is putting through 22:30 < aestetix> So as a result, someone took a photo of one of the councilmembers, and posted flyers around town with anti-DAC stuff on it, and her photo with a swastika on her forehead 22:30 <@anarchival> aestetix: Is that in Oakland? I've read about that. Apparently the Brigade has been doing a few subversive things to counter it. 22:30 <@anarchival> But I've already said too much. 22:30 <@NotLarry> aestetix: Tell me about Haywood 22:31 < aestetix> anarchival: yes 22:31 < aestetix> there's a DAC discussion group I'm subsscribe to 22:31 < aestetix> some of us are trying to do positive things to bring awareness 22:31 < aestetix> and then there's this 22:31 < RangerZ> aestetix: just post the definition of fascism " a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government" 22:31 < RangerZ> well one of them 22:32 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/Matthew_Artz/status/425015272869613569 22:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / Matthew_Artz: First CM Gallo over curfews, ... (at twitter.com) 22:32 <@anarchival> aestetix: Well there's the problem with Godwin's Law. I mean, when people really *are* acting like Nazis, we should be able to call attention to it without it being automatically dismissed as irrational hyperbole. 22:32 < RangerZ> and then the person's picture, and then under that... ask "what is this term:Fascism" lol 22:32 <@anarchival> aestetix: But from what you're saying, I'm not sure this is one of those times. 22:33 <@anarchival> I'd reference the Stasi before the Nazis in an argument about surveillance, anyway. It makes more sense. 22:33 < aestetix> oh wow, I didn't know she was jewish 22:34 < RangerZ> eww 22:34 < RangerZ> thats just wrong 22:34 <@anarchival> aestetix: The woman they're calling a Nazi. lololol that'll turn out real well 22:34 < aestetix> yep 22:35 <@eryc> what if the jews are the new nazis but everyone is afraid to call them nazis because of the nazis 22:35 <@anarchival> This 1974 dramatized miniseries on the life of Lady Randolph Churchill is *so* much more enjoyable than Downton Abbey now that people are getting raped on the show. 22:35 <@eryc> its like the abused child who grows up to abuse children 22:35 <@anarchival> eryc: Exactly, my friend. Exactly. 22:36 < klixa> https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/69034_689228794441287_400984819_n.jpg 22:37 < RangerZ> klixa: ;) 22:37 < RangerZ> lol 22:37 < klixa> <3 lol 22:37 < aestetix> man 22:38 <@anarchival> klixa: This one's my favorite: http://www.quickmeme.com/img/d9/d9856b5f46fc2b413ee5de55be0c6adab768709a9c7f451d1a54a574d8d5c2cb.jpg 22:38 < aestetix> really. people are looking to install a surveillance system. So you find the one who is jewish and call her a nazi. 22:38 * aestetix sighs 22:38 < RangerZ> aestetix: so which side is your photogenic side? 22:38 <@anarchival> aestetix: are you sure the person calling the Jew a Nazi isn't actually an FBI plant trying to subvert the success of the movement? 22:38 < RangerZ> remember to face the cameras with that side 22:38 < aestetix> RangerZ: bottom side 22:39 < klixa> anarchival: :) 22:39 < aestetix> anarchival: who knows 22:39 <@anarchival> aestetix: I'd kill them and dump their body into the bay, just to be safe. 22:40 < klixa> i was just in the bay..its better than here 22:40 <@anarchival> klixa: Here being Texas? I concur. 22:40 < klixa> right right 22:41 < RangerZ> as long as 'the bay' isn't oakland apparently 22:41 < RangerZ> but where is san fran going to send all of its poor people who want to use 'public' busses 22:41 < aestetix> klixa: the weather is nice 22:41 < RangerZ> i'm surprised a city hasn't gone around and picked up the poor, and shipped them to another city 22:42 < RangerZ> just paying their bus fees 22:42 < klixa> RangerZ: Oakland is HORRID 22:42 <@anarchival> RangerZ: It happens all the time right here. That's how most counties deal with their homeless; put 'em on a bus to Nashville. Let them take their chances at the Mission. 22:42 < aestetix> RangerZ: that would require the city to do work 22:42 < klixa> i hate oakland...hate it hate it hate it 22:42 < aestetix> klixa: some parts of oakland are nice 22:42 < aestetix> like where I live 22:42 < RangerZ> klixa: ehh, i've been there 22:43 < klixa> aestetix: yeah the hills...which arent really oakland 22:43 < klixa> they are tiny places like oedmont 22:43 < klixa> Piedmont* 22:43 < aestetix> yep 22:43 < aestetix> I live at the base of Piedmont :) 22:43 <@SuMo_D> over by lake merrick is nice 22:43 < RangerZ> next to berkeley? 22:43 <@SuMo_D> is that what its called? 22:43 < RangerZ> or the other end? 22:43 < aestetix> SuMo_D: merrit 22:43 < klixa> aestetix: oh , so you are in cali...i was just in oakland last week...visiting my friend who lives in the hood 22:44 <@SuMo_D> right 22:44 < aestetix> klixa: indeed I am 22:44 < aestetix> thus why I was complaining about it 22:44 <@SuMo_D> dmolnar used to live over there 22:44 < klixa> aestetix: i spent all last summer in fremont...i liked it down there 22:45 < aestetix> klixa: yes. During occupy, we'd know there was a raid happening because of all the helicopters 22:46 < klixa> aestetix: i used to live in mendocino county...during harvest time there are a lot of helicoters... 22:46 < klixa> helicopters* 22:47 < aestetix> heh 22:47 < aestetix> klixa: do you get mic checks during city council meetings? 22:47 < aestetix> (that happened at the one I went to in november) 22:47 < klixa> i have never been to one 22:48 < klixa> if they even have them in mendocino...no one would show up on time anyway...and by the time they did, would be high 22:48 < aestetix> (and the protesters shouting during the meetings, and trying to get the council members to threaten them..... ) 22:48 < aestetix> It kind of played like one of those movies from the 60s, honestly 22:49 < klixa> lol 22:49 <@Evilpig> that's it. I can't take it anymore. I want pie 22:49 < aestetix> Inlucding at the end where the chairwoman of the council had the police clear the room so they could vote 22:49 < aestetix> because everyone kept shouting "shame! shame! shame!" 22:49 < klixa> aestetix: since you are in this # i assume you are from nashville or that area originally or at least used to live there? 22:49 < aestetix> klixa: nah, I just went to phreaknic a few times 22:50 < klixa> ok 22:51 < aestetix> I used to bring Evilpig his annual delivery of sausages 22:51 < klixa> aestetix: bring me some strauss milk...organic creamtop 22:51 < klixa> :) 22:52 < aestetix> ahh the bay area, where it's eithr organic or boycotted 22:52 < klixa> spirulina! 22:53 < klixa> you know what i find weird... in the bay, you have to pay like almost twice as much for like raspberries, strawberriwes, kale etc than just about anywwhere in the country, but its grown like in watsonville...all of it 22:53 < klixa> why is it cheaper 2000 miles away!?!?!? 22:56 <@anarchival> klixa: because San Franciscans are ridiculously wealthy and can therefore pay. 22:57 < klixa> i always seem to end up in 22:57 < klixa> SF on gay pride day 22:57 * klixa pressed enter prematurely 22:57 < klixa> last summer...i wanted to go to the Crumpler store...to get a new bag... and ...it was gay pride day :/ 22:58 < klixa> the street it was on was blocked...and it took me 3 hours to get from one side to the other (a big whopping 5 miles or so) 23:00 < RangerZ> klixa: i was there for it also, a couple years ago, but I didn't end up going down to the parade itself, I explored UC Berkeley's campus that day I think 23:00 < klixa> if you were in berkely you werent there for it..once youu cross the bridge the streets become a parking lot 23:01 < RangerZ> lol 23:01 < klixa> i have been there on gay pride day several years in a row... coincedence tho 23:02 < RangerZ> we went into san fran that day, but only in the morning and never saw the parade 23:02 < klixa> i have never seen the parade 23:02 < klixa> i was never there for it... i was jsut driving through etc...and got stuck in the traffic from all the streets being blocked off 23:02 < RangerZ> but thankfully that wasn't the day that our prof from back home visited and drove us around town in her rentacar 23:02 < klixa> this year... i was picking up a friend...and she walked to me quicker than i was able to drive to her 23:03 < klixa> RangerZ: why thankfully? does she not like gay men in assless pants? lol 23:03 < RangerZ> no, we would have been stuck in the car 23:04 < RangerZ> i'm fine with gay men in assless pants, as long as they aren't touching me 23:04 < klixa> i could have done w/o seeing it myself 23:05 < klixa> i ended up going to the beach tho and forgot all about my trauma 23:05 < RangerZ> personally, i wouldn't "want" to see it either 23:05 < RangerZ> holy fuck... i STILL can't make comments on youtube or anything 23:05 < RangerZ> this is some BS 23:06 < RangerZ> i'm trying to figure out how to make doug's channel look all "professional" and all that 23:10 < RangerZ> wow 23:12 < RangerZ> apparently it is 'block 3rd party cookies' 23:13 < RangerZ> because youtube/google are different domains 23:13 <@NotLarry> aestetix: The traffic cams in Tuscaloosa could be remotely controled and zoom in on stuff but when you did that the chosen camera became the default one that showed on the local comcast feed. One night a AHP was using one to look at women on the strip (who, since they could see the camera moving flashed it). 23:13 <@NotLarry> A lot of elderly couples sit around and watch the traffic cameras cycle through. 23:27 < RangerZ> NotLarry: really? 23:31 < RangerZ> there is some google phrase you can search that will give you 1000s of home 'advanced' webcams that people put up as 'home security' 23:31 < RangerZ> but the web server in them broadcasts and is indexable , lol 23:31 < RangerZ> some have that tilt/pan/zoom feature also, lol 23:34 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36 <@Evilpig> I have pie! 23:37 * anarchival shakes a fistful of $1 bills at Evilpig. 23:37 <@Evilpig> you'd be horribly disappointed 23:37 <@Evilpig> the pie is okay, the crust is horrible 23:38 <@Evilpig> I prefer a graham cracker crust this is ... like an uncooked apple pie crust. at least that's the consistency 23:38 <@anarchival> Once upon a time, I made over 90 mini-pies in an assortment of buttermilk and fudge for Nashville Code Day. 23:39 <@anarchival> Pie ladies, get it? Get it? Hahahahaha. 23:39 <@Corydon76-work> You know how standard calorie counts are done with incinerating food? 23:39 <@Corydon76-work> How do they compensate for undigestable artificial sweeteners? 23:43 < RangerZ> easy 23:44 < RangerZ> they add flour to them 23:44 < RangerZ> which is digestible, as filler 23:44 < RangerZ> or something else similar 23:44 < RangerZ> b/c splenda is something like magnitudes times sweeter than sugar 23:44 < RangerZ> so they add filler to it to make it less sweet per same volume 23:45 < RangerZ> 'that' is what has the calories 23:45 <@Corydon76-work> No, I meant, that if you incinerate something with Splenda in it, it's going to register as having more calories than are actually digestible 23:45 <@Corydon76-work> So how do they compensate? 23:47 <@Corydon76-work> The standard caloric method is to take a food, measure the temperature beforehand, then burn it to ash, and measure the temperature afterwards. 23:47 <@Corydon76-work> and then there's some calculation that translates it to calories --- Log closed Mon Jan 20 00:00:52 2014