--- Log opened Tue Jan 07 00:00:19 2014
00:20 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Oh nifty.  Apparently villagers increase by every StreetPass from someone with Bravely Default, and does not require they be _unique_
00:27 <@aestetix> ugh
00:27 <@aestetix> I am running out of Fawlty Towers
00:27 <@aestetix> Every time someone goes horrible wrong or pisses me off, an episode of that show is my antidote
00:28 < SuMo_D_> aestetix http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/contribute/
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00:38 < aestetix_> FUCK YES
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00:38 < aestetix_> SUCK IT LEVEL 89
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00:38 <@Dagmar> Super Hexagon?
00:39 < aestetix_> candy crush
00:39 <@Dagmar> o.O
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00:42 < SuMo_D_> aestetix I think I'm giving up at 102
00:43 < SuMo_D_> its just.... done... but I have a power up thing, that is supposed to activate at 130... so... argh! curiosity!
00:43 < SuMo_D_> and yes... it gets worse!
00:44 < aestetix_> is 102 that must worse?
00:52 < aestetix_> penispenispenispenispenispenispenis
01:07 < SuMo_D_> there are a few doosies in the 90s
01:07 < SuMo_D_> but yeah after 100 you get bombs that you have to clear or you DIE early
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01:29 < aestetix_> ok that was fun
01:29 < aestetix_> first code deploy in 2 weeks (thanks xmas)
01:30 < aestetix_> oh memory leak oh memory leak, how annoying you are
01:36 < NotLarry_> well it says it was 3.7 outside but on the ride in it felt about 20
01:43 < aestetix_> NotLarry_: if you zip your pants back up it will be warmer.
02:07 < NotLarry_> vaginia
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03:17 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii8symN-A2g
03:17 < GateKeeper> Title: Congressman Aaron Schock Outed - Photographic Evidence - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:17 < RangerZ> poor GOP congressman
03:18 < aestetix_> .... outed?
03:18 < RangerZ> as gay
03:19 < RangerZ> as someone who rails against gay rights
03:22 < NotLarry> Well
03:23 < NotLarry> I don't know.  Frankly, if he makes his sexuality an issue I would say it is fair game.  But "outing" just tastes like mcarthy to me.
03:23 < RangerZ> its hypocritical
03:24 < RangerZ> thats the only reason why I don't care
03:24 < NotLarry> wait, what is hypocritical?
03:24 < RangerZ> he's an anti-gay republican, and "probably" gay
03:24 < NotLarry> If I like the cock but don't belive you should have the same rights as a straight couple, or my constituancey feels that, then I don't see the hypocritical.
03:25 < NotLarry> Other than, the normal everyday type.
03:25 < NotLarry> I fucking hate every living being on this planet, maybe in this universe, yet I smile and talk to people every day.
03:26 < RangerZ> lies, you don't talk to people when  you play LoL bingers on your days off
03:26 < NotLarry> If I vote against gay rights, but say I'm for gay rights, that would be an issue
03:27 < NotLarry> If I have to shake a cock out of my mouth to vote nay in congress, that is my own business and you should just keep your opinions to yourself.  If not than I might as well be a teabagger
03:29 < NotLarry> And just because I am against homosexuality, does not mean I don't think a gay couple should not be treated the same under the law as any other couple.
03:35 < RangerZ> and I'm not the one who outed them, however, I CAN take amusement out of (someone who is obviously in the same social circle as the congressman to have seen him in the shower with another friend) outing someone in their social circle because they think he's being an asshole on a civil liberties issue. I wouldn't take amusement in _any_ other type of situation, but if the guy was a KKK leader who promotes re-enacting more jim crow laws, and
03:35 < NotLarry> Yeah, I can take amusement in that as well:)
04:31 < RangerZ> Dagmar: you can transfer 20 villagers from Bravely Default's demo to the real game, along with (atleast) the 7 rewards that you unlock 1 for just playing the demo, 1 for each of the 5 bosses, and 1 for finishing the village, 'what else' gets transfered over... I'm not entirely sure
04:31 < RangerZ> Evilpig: ^ also, if you tried it out
05:07 < RangerZ> Dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJmxuBTn91s ohh god... they are going to build in 'early in, you win for the rest of the game'
05:07 < GateKeeper> Title: Elder Scrolls Online News Zenimax Talk On How To Become Emperor Of Cyrodiil & What It Does - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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05:37 < NotLarry> The thing is, I don't want to help another set of handlers out here while they try to figure this shit out while I barley get paid what my son makes at kroger for selling smokes and gas.
05:37 < RangerZ1> huh?
05:54 < NotLarry> oh, nothing.  Work is asking for "Data Center Manager" opinions from a simple "NOC Analyst"
05:54 < NotLarry> and it pisses me off.
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07:22 < NotLarry> Evilpig: ping
07:27 <@Shadow404> 6 degrees F in Atlanta......just way to damn cold this far south
07:30 < RangerZ1> not really
07:30 < RangerZ1> if jet stream moves permantly, it'll get colder more often
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07:32 <@Shadow404> oh yeah....so global warming and all
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07:32 <@Shadow404> i dont deny its happening, but on a much smaller scale then predicted
07:32 <@notlarry> This is all because of the McDLT
07:33 <@Shadow404> notlarry: i still blame obama
07:37 <@notlarry> Of course you will.
07:37 <@Shadow404> what is mcdlt?
07:38 <@Shadow404> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTSdUOC8Kac
07:38 < GateKeeper> Title: 80s Commercials - McDLT [Jason Alexander] - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
07:42 <@notlarry> You really had to be there.
07:42 <@notlarry> It was a weird idea that was poorly executed and used styrofoam.
07:43 <@Shadow404> so the styrofoam melted?
07:43 <@Shadow404> but it was a great commercial?
07:43 <@notlarry> No, just bad for environment
07:43 <@Shadow404> heh
07:43 <@notlarry> I have not watched it yet.
07:43 <@Shadow404> mc donalds is just always bad for the environment
07:45 <@notlarry> and people did not have the intelect to put the bottom bun/burger over ontop of the cool side.  So they would contantly spill their tomato and lettuce trying to put the top on.
07:45 <@notlarry> But it was very good if I remember correctly, or maybe I smoked a lot of pot in the 80s
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07:48 <@Shadow404> woot for the first time in a week, all the systems were up and responding last night so i dont have to re-run my scripts manually
07:48 <@Shadow404> gonna be a good morning
07:50 <@notlarry> Good morning brimstone
07:52 <@notlarry> So, I had a guy yesterday tell me "I don't use that Lync thing, I don't even have it installed on my computer."  fm.  I am going to have to give up unified communication in order to deal with this guy who tells me "we" have to "standardize" our activities...
07:52 <@notlarry> I'm not saying they ALL have to die, er, pay...
07:54 <@brimstone> hi notlarry
08:01 <@notlarry> "what does it taste like?  It feels like a mistake." http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8dFMCf8zi5s#t=117
08:01 < GateKeeper> Title: The Ghost Pepper Challenge - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
08:13 <@Evilpig> the FBI has altered their declared primary function from "law enforcement" to "national security."      So what's the NSA for?
08:13 < RangerZ1> total information awareness
08:16 <@Shadow404> pressure cookers
08:39 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: saw a couple of bumps on the ssh yesterday, probably weather related
08:42 <@notlarry> oh fuck me.
08:42 <@notlarry> I'm in a political discussion at work I didi not mean to get into.  and I can't get out.
08:43 <@Shadow404> "you have to go across the hall for some food"
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08:43 <@Shadow404> speaking of slacker
08:43 <@Shadow404> hey Dolemite
08:44 <@Dolemite> WTF do you want?
08:44 <@Dolemite> er, I mean
08:44 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:44  * Evilpig reaches for Dolemite's wallet
08:44 <@Dolemite> It's fucking empty
08:44 <@Dolemite> Will be even more so today, I'm sure.  Heat for the upstairs wasn't working last night.
08:44 <@Dolemite> Had to move the kids downstairs.  Was too cold.
08:45 <@Shadow404> doh, i left the water trickling last night
08:45 <@Dolemite> I knew it was too cold for the heat pump to be effective, but the emergency heat wasn't coming on.
08:45 <@Shadow404> got down to 6 degrees in georgia
08:45 <@Dolemite> So either bad control board or thermostat.  We just put in a new heating element last Winter.
08:46 <@Dolemite> It was -1 F when my alarm went off at 6.  I decided to go back to sleep until 7 so that I could let the sun come up before I drove in.
08:47 <@Shadow404> thermostat should be cheap to test/replace
08:47 <@Shadow404> control board, not so much
08:48 <@Dolemite> Are you fucking daft?  Thermostats aren't cheap.
08:49 <@Dolemite> Cheap is less than $20
08:49 <@Evilpig> just like dolemite
08:50 <@Dolemite> No, I'm damn cheap.  < $10
08:59 <@Dolemite> I suspect that since the original installation of the upstairs heat pump didn't include emergency heat, the original installer didn't put in a thermostat with controls for emergency heat
08:59 <@Dolemite> Even though I asked the HVAC guy that installed the heating element if the control lines were in place...   the line may have been there, but if he didn't check the thermostat, it could just be dangling in the wall
09:02 < RangerZ1> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/01/07/0242221/att-introduces-sponsored-data-allowing-services-to-bypass-4g-data-caps
09:02 < GateKeeper> Title: ATT Introduces "Sponsored Data" Allowing Services to Bypass 4G Data Caps - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org)
09:03 < RangerZ1> ohh fucking AT&T....
09:03 < RangerZ1> i don't even have them, and this pisses me off
09:03 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I just read that
09:04 <@Dolemite> I love how AT&T was declared a monopoly, so we broke it up, but then let those smaller companies get bigger on their own, and then all combined again into an AT&T that's bigger than it ever was.
09:04 <@Dolemite> Free market works!
09:04  * Dolemite drinks some of the libertine kool-aid
09:04 < RangerZ1> colbert's video on that is epic
09:04  * Dolemite spits it out
09:04 <@Dolemite> damn, tastes like tea
09:05 < RangerZ1> http://videosift.com/video/Colbert-regarding-the-new-ATT
09:05 < GateKeeper> Title: Colbert regarding the new AT (at videosift.com)
09:09 <@Evilpig> I should probably halt all downloads for a month.
09:09 <@Evilpig> http://blueboy.wilpig.org/bandwidthd/index3.html
09:09 < GateKeeper> Title: Bandwidthd (at blueboy.wilpig.org)
09:09 <@brimstone> only 1T?
09:09 <@brimstone> are you even trying?
09:09 <@Evilpig> avg'd 1T a month for the last three months
09:31 <@Dolemite> Just remove all of the goat pr0n and Shadow404 will top streaming video constantly.
09:32 <@Shadow404> heh, goat pron is boring now
09:32 <@Shadow404> besides, ive already downloaded and seen all the goat stuff he has on his servers
09:34 <@Shadow404> the one about old mcdonald is pretty entertaining though, poor donkey.....poor poor animal, it will never be the same again
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09:42 < RangerZ1> but the donkey got away better than the cow
09:42 < RangerZ1> RIP
09:42 <@Evilpig> there's your searchable IP field, Dolemite 
09:44 <@Dolemite> Well, not mine as much as all of the people who keep emailing me about it
09:44 <@Evilpig> call them assholes.
09:44 <@Dolemite> That's your job
09:44 <@Evilpig> oh right.
09:45 <@Dolemite> If I took that pleasure away from you then you'd have no more motivation to continue contributing to the project
09:57 <@notlarry> I feel so baaaaaad about the old mcdonald video
09:58 <@Mirage> e-i-e-i-o?
10:02 <@Evilpig> victory!
10:03 <@Evilpig> I found where I was missing the js hook
10:05 <@Shadow404> Mirage: the last "-o" is actually -ohhhhhhhhhhh
10:26 <@Mirage> For NL, that does make more sense..=)
10:29 <@notlarry> oh yeah, 7.5.  I bet it makes 10 before I get off work at noon.
10:36 <@Dolemite> I guess you can change into your Speedo for the ride home after all, NotLarry
10:39 <@Mirage> Dolemite: Probably more than he normally wears under his coveralls..
10:39 <@Dolemite>  Depends
10:40 <@Dolemite> Literally.  He's old, after all.
10:42 <@Evilpig> you people sicken me
10:42 <@Evilpig> nobody wants to picture what he has on under that 
10:43 <@Evilpig> http://cpanayides.tumblr.com/post/72527046223/georgetakei-that-face-http-ift-tt-17cqiuk
10:43 < GateKeeper> Title: georgetakei: That. Face. http://ift.tt/17CqIUk ... Won't the 'splodey hurt? (at cpanayides.tumblr.com)
10:57 <@notlarry> I've started watching this at work just to be an ass - http://www.twitch.tv/tudo852
10:57 < GateKeeper> Title: tudo852 - Twitch (at www.twitch.tv)
11:00 < nachoguy> mr0nin
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11:02 <@Corydon76-work> Synx|hm: how's the honey monster this morning?
11:03 <@Corydon76-work> No more hospital visits, hopefully?
11:04 < Synx|hm> nobodys awake yet so nothing yet :)
11:04 <@Mirage> notlarry: so who's taking peter's place?
11:07 < Synx|hm> what could be causing my wireless mouse to randomly register a single click as two or a click and hold as random releases and clicks, and also be causing my bluetooth speaker to lose connection when its more than 3 inches away from my laptop
11:08 < Synx|hm> oh and my cellphone stops charging as soon as i fall asleep, randomly reboots, and keeps killing the gps from working making me have to pull the battery
11:08 < Synx|hm> NSA?
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11:12 <@Evilpig> Dolemite!!!
11:12 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  maybe I didn't say it right
11:12 <@Evilpig> DOLEMITE!!!
11:16 <@Dolemite> PORCINE LOVER!
11:19 <@Dolemite> Ugh.
11:20 <@Dolemite> 10 F outside and the cafeteria has an even more atrocious than usual menu for today.
11:20 <@Dolemite> I guess it's salad bar day
11:23 < Synx|hm> snow in nashville?
11:27 <@Dolemite> I don't think they got much
11:27 <@Dolemite> I'm in Knoxville.  East end of the state by the Smoky Mountains.
11:27 <@Dolemite> We just got a dusting from the Polar Vortex from Hell.
11:27 <@Dolemite> But cold as a witch's tits in a brass bra.
11:28 <@Evilpig> not gonna do it.  too easy
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11:29 <@timoguin> Corydon76-work, yo
11:29 <@Corydon76-work> What's up?
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11:29 <@timoguin> weren't you the one that shared a reactjs tutorial?
11:29 <@timoguin> oooh it was a graphviz thing
11:29  * timoguin goes back to search
11:30 <@timoguin> found it
11:30 <@timoguin> i wanna use that for my talk
11:30 <@Corydon76-work> RevealJS?
11:31 <@timoguin> ah yes, that's it.
11:31 <@timoguin> thanks
11:31 <@Corydon76-work> It's extremely easy to use, just download the package, and stick it in a servable directory
11:31 <@Corydon76-work> and other than the markup for the slides and style attributes, it's all standard HTML
11:32 <@Corydon76-work> That's what makes it so easy to use
11:32 <@timoguin> yea i just coulnd't find the project when i was searching for it
11:32 <@anarchival> https://github.com/Nashville2600/reveal.js
11:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Nashville2600/reveal.js · GitHub (at github.com)
11:33 <@Corydon76-work> I had only heard of it from the guy who did the month's presentation immediately prior to mine, and I learned it and wrote my presentation in under a month
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11:35 <@timoguin> yuhp. i'm doing a talk on Salt at PyTN
11:37 <@anarchival> timoguin: Sweet. Did you catch Matt George's Salt presentation at Coderfaire? I missed it.
11:38 <@timoguin> I did not.
11:38 <@timoguin> I'm thinking about starting a salt group for nashville
11:38 <@timoguin> but i've only met a small handful of people who know what it is
11:43 < oddball_> timoguin: Speaking of which, what is Salt?
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11:44 <@oddball> clearly, google will fail me on that one.
11:44 <@anarchival> timoguin: Matt George is starting a night-time meetup for Python this year, in addition to the PyNash lunches. That might be your best bet.
11:45 <@anarchival> timoguin: Also if you do start a meetup, reach out to ncusgl.org for cross-promotion. I'd be happy to get you an invite if you need one.
11:45 <@timoguin> oddball, saltstack. config mgmt and remote execution framework. like puppet etc.
11:45 <@oddball> ah, ok
11:45 <@timoguin> anarchival, yea I'm planning on going to the first evening meeting on thursday
11:45 < Synx|hm> i need to implement a document revision control system that is closed to a few individuals at my company, and would prefer to keep the documents housed on company hardware... git or svn?
11:45 <@anarchival> timoguin: P.S. Puppet was started by a native son, so that might be a factor.
11:45 <@timoguin> i know the pynash guys
11:46 <@anarchival> timoguin: If you're speaking at PyTN, I figured that was a safe bet. :)
11:46 <@timoguin> and yea, a ncusgl.org invite would be cool
11:47 < Synx|hm> actually it looks like git is pay only for private repo and its still housed on their gear
11:47 < RangerZ1> yeah
11:47 <@Corydon76-work> Synx|hm: do those users have management capabilities or control over the hardware?
11:47 < RangerZ1> and if you are a student, you can get private repos for free
11:47 < RangerZ1> on github* i'm assuming you meant
11:47 <@Corydon76-work> Synx|hm: github is, but git itself is not
11:47 < Synx|hm> oh
11:47 <@timoguin> yea, you can host git easily yourself
11:48 <@timoguin> you may want to consider mercurial as well
11:48 < RangerZ1> I have MANY git repos that aren't part of github
11:48 <@timoguin> guess it depends on who is using it and how
11:48 <@anarchival> Synx|hm: A lot of shops use Gitlab for that: https://bitnami.com/stack/gitlab
11:48 < GateKeeper> Title: GitLab Cloud Hosting, Installers and Virtual Machines. (at bitnami.com)
11:49 < Synx|hm> Corydon76-work: users will just be maintaining mass scriptfiles (basically documents with attached directories of supporting code) but i can probably get a dedicated VM for this that i can manage
11:49 < Synx|hm> what i really need is a easy way to sync and update the projects from a nice windows client
11:50 < Synx|hm> i dont want these guys to have to install something like cygwin or learn some console commands in windows as they will never correctly checkout/update their projects
11:50 <@brimstone> gitlab has their own hosting now too
11:50 <@brimstone> Synx|hm: you want a webdav subversion server then
11:50 <@brimstone> with the autocommit flag
11:50 <@timoguin> Synx|hm, there are a number of GUI clients for git
11:50 <@timoguin> TortoiseGit and SourceTree are both pretty popular
11:51 <@timoguin> the repo itself just needs to be accessible via SSH or HTTP
11:52 <@Corydon76-work> I strongly recommend HTTP and HTTPS if you need link security.  SSH access can be difficult to get right in a way that ensures remote users don't get shell access
11:52 <@Evilpig> doesn't github.com have a windows client available for download directly?
11:53 <@Corydon76-work> Evilpig: he wants it hosted locally
11:53 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: certain people trust me with shell access....so what are you saying?
11:53 < RangerZ1> that they shouldn't?
11:53 < RangerZ1> hehe
11:53 <@Shadow404> heh
11:53 < Synx|hm> yes that would be key too as we all work remote, and i would much prefer to commit changes and update my local files without having to get on a VPN
11:54 < RangerZ1> you don't HAVE to use a vpn
11:54 < RangerZ1> you can use git over SSH
11:54 <@Corydon76-work> When it comes to permissions required to get SSH access to a shared repository working correctly, it gets rather hairy
11:54 < Synx|hm> is that supported without any extra workin a client lib?
11:54 < RangerZ1> its how I connect to ISIS and Github
11:55 < RangerZ1> its easy as hell on github, as long as you know how to use certs for ssh
11:55 < Synx|hm> i could probably get https setup with domain credentials
11:55 < RangerZ1> never used my own local hosting
11:55 < RangerZ1> keys are nice because you can have multiple machines with the same key, and that key identifies who made the commit
11:55 < RangerZ1> ontop of git's stuff
11:56 < RangerZ1> and you can know from which machine they committed from, if each has a diff key
11:56 < Synx|hm> hrm
11:56 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ1: you can do the same with HTTP+SSL client certificates
11:57 < Synx|hm> i need to read up on this more it seems, all this brach stuff etc i dont quite understand for version control, i just want every to have the same file base along with comments from the previous edits
11:57 < RangerZ1> pro git , is the book i've been recommended
11:57 < RangerZ1> but i was just thrown into a lab that used it for everything, so i learned on the go
11:58 <@Corydon76-work> Synx|hm: the only question is whether your users are committing to the same branch of code, or if they're all managing disparate stuff
11:58 < RangerZ1> also...https://github.com/juleswhite/cs27x/tree/master/assignments/Asgn0
11:58 < GateKeeper> Title: cs27x/assignments/Asgn0 at master · juleswhite/cs27x · GitHub (at github.com)
11:58 < RangerZ1> there is a intro guide that my class last semester was given
11:58 <@anarchival> http://git-scm.com/book
11:58 < GateKeeper> Title: Git - Book (at git-scm.com)
11:59 <@Corydon76-work> Git can be unnecessarily obtuse sometimes, a problem that Subversion does not have.
11:59 < RangerZ1> one of the keys with git is finding a good merge tool that you like
11:59  * timoguin spins around and yells mercurial over and over
11:59 < RangerZ1> like 'meld' or one of the other 1000
11:59 <@timoguin> no one can stop me!
11:59 <@anarchival> If you have access to Lynda, there's a nice class on version control that will give you an overview of all the various systems, including but not limited to git.
11:59 < Synx|hm> Corydon76-work: same branch, basically i am moving into a project where for the past 10 years a single guy maintained the documents/code, now because this is a 24/7 support product we need to move a team of people into work on this. these documents need to be easily accessable to everyone on their localmachines, but also need to be synced between us so we can update/modify and then commit the changes as each of us rotates into the active suppo
12:00 <@Corydon76-work> Synx|hm: So there's only one person modifying code and committing their changes at one time?
12:00 < Synx|hm> timoguin: im going to the mercurial website now :)
12:01 <@Corydon76-work> With no possibility of conflicts, I'd go with Subversion
12:01 < Synx|hm> Corydon76-work: well thats what im looking to help make sure, i dont want two people to accidentily overwrite eachother changes
12:01 < Synx|hm> can svn protect against that
12:01 <@Corydon76-work> YEs
12:01 <@timoguin> subversion keeps everything on a central server
12:01 <@Corydon76-work> All of them protect against that
12:01 < Synx|hm> but there is no need, and probably a requirement to keep people NOT branching out this project
12:01 <@Corydon76-work> It's a core feature
12:01 <@timoguin> whereas DVCS like git or mercurial has the history on every person's local copy
12:01 <@timoguin> adds a bit of complexity to it
12:02 <@Corydon76-work> "A bit" is putting it mildly
12:02 < Synx|hm> so with SVN do i checkout the files which locks them from anyone else to edit and commit them when i am done
12:02 <@Corydon76-work> You can lock them, or not
12:02 <@Corydon76-work> If you don't, and somebody commits in the meantime, when you attempt to commit, it will refuse the commit, because you're out of date
12:03 <@Corydon76-work> Then you update from the repo, merge the changes (merge is pretty integrated), and commit anew
12:04 < Synx|hm> ok cool so that sounds exactly like what we want to do
12:04 <@Corydon76-work> Conflicts are where the different tools shine.  Git handles conflicts even within a single line, but you get a much more complex merge process as a result
12:04 < Synx|hm> so the diff then with git and similar local repo type systems is you can maintain your own code base then then choose or not choose to commit
12:05 <@Corydon76-work> and if your people aren't used to version control, Git can feel very overwhelming at first
12:05 < RangerZ1> if you use an IDE, things like Eclipse's "auto sort methods" and "auto format" on save, will save you so much hassle later on
12:06 < RangerZ1> b/c you don't cause silly 'conflicts' from someone re-arraning the methods, etc
12:06 <@Corydon76-work> Yes, and if a user chooses not to commit their changes, their local copy can get very divergent
12:07 <@Corydon76-work> The very last thing you ever want in source control is for a user to decide that your process is too hard, and he'll just make the change on the server, because it's easier for him to do that.
12:08 <@Corydon76-work> Or "it's just a quick fix"
12:08 <@Corydon76-work> That's a recipe for ensuring the VCS will be ignored and irrelevant very quickly
12:08 < RangerZ1> also... designating a "repo master" or w/e term you want to use
12:08 < Synx|hm> ya i do not want to add yet another tool people have to learn, i just want this to be logical and easy to move to
12:09 < RangerZ1> and have them handle creating official "releases"
12:09 < Synx|hm> also we do not use an standard IDE this isn't really even code, its all peusdocode from a propritary/old/antiquated scripting tool
12:09 <@Corydon76-work> That's a good reason to use Subversion.  It does not have a steep learning curve
12:09 < Synx|hm> sweet svn it likely is
12:10 <@Corydon76-work> You can always move to a more complicated tool like Git or Mercurial later, after your team appreciates the value of a VCS and needs the more complex functionality
12:10 < RangerZ1> https://github.com/mawalker/torrentCDN here was my project for that class I linked earlier, I used git/vagrant/puppet to 1) track source 2) create local VMs to test my code 3) configure those VMs through a source tracked file, so 'anyone' who wanted to create the 'exact' same VM could easily
12:10 < GateKeeper> Title: mawalker/torrentCDN · GitHub (at github.com)
12:11 < RangerZ1> I also used jenkins, but that was a temp server that isn't up and running anymore, but it worked really nice
12:12 < RangerZ1> i wrote an internal whitepaper for my lab, about how source compilation for testing/release should be done on vagrant VMs, because that produces reproducible build conditions
12:14 < RangerZ1> its a bit much for uptake, but I was able to set it up and do it all from scratch (other than knowing some basic git) in about a week
12:15 < RangerZ1> also, there is nothing stopping you from using a paid github, and then making as many backup clones of it as you want, to prevent their service from stopping you from being able to do work if it goes down, etc.
12:15 < Synx|hm> ya i dont think my company wants these files residing on non company owned hardware as its lots of information about customers
12:16 < RangerZ1> git is a _distributed_ version control system, not centralized, you only 'act' like one is the 'master' repo, for purposes of sanity
12:16 < RangerZ1> ahh
12:16  * RangerZ1 didn't read that part
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12:16 < RangerZ1> I use git for version control of the papers I write now
12:16 < Synx|hm> though that brings up a good point,  i guess with SVN as long as you maintain a daily checkout if the server goes down you at least have a place to work from
12:17 < RangerZ1> saves me so much time/effort if I need to go back and get a certain wording that I think I liked better, etc
12:18 < RangerZ1> SVN is a _lot_ slower than git though, you'll often wonder if git 'is working' or not by the almost silly speed in which it works
12:18 < RangerZ1> which is a nice bonus, because it helps workflow
12:22 <@Shadow404> gahh, company merger is finally getting around to imaging our laptops with a more restrictive monitored setup....looks like ill be getting a tablet soon
12:22 < Synx|hm> ugh... i just pitched the idea to a few coworkers... 'well i duno, it seems like it will add more steps to our editing process...'
12:22 < Synx|hm> oh and i just found out someone has tried this already and nobody used it
12:22 < Synx|hm> fml
12:23 < Synx|hm> people need to give up on the old terrible ways they manage stuff around here and get with the real world
12:23 < RangerZ1> this is one of the times where you say (if you can) "we shall use____" and be done with it
12:24 < Synx|hm> problem is i dont have that power, im the newest guy on the team, all these people have been here for 8+ years
12:24 < Synx|hm> so they are crusty and stuck in their ways
12:24 < RangerZ1> well then you're boned
12:24 < RangerZ1> unless you can convince the mang.
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12:28 < Synx|hm> that i may actually be able to do, my boss really likes/trusts me and i might just able to get him to force it on everyone else, but i do not want to make those waves just yet
12:30 < RangerZ1> i'd setup a demo, like my project
12:30 < RangerZ1> where everything is working
12:31 < RangerZ1> and show how merges are handled, how conflicts are handles, how fast it is, etc
12:33 < Synx|hm> thats what im going to do
12:33 < Synx|hm> try and get the old guy to release the keys to the old unused svn server
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12:58 <@Shadow404> looks like ill be needing a tablet for work soon, there gonna start locking down the laptops and monitoring them closely....i need a tablet/software that can run irssi well inside of a terminal, and also need a keyboard, either wireless or built into the tablet somehow...probably no more than $150 for the tablet itself, anybody got some hip fire suggestions?
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13:00 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: Did you see what I said last night about Streetpass hits for Bravely Default not needing to be unique?
13:00 < RangerZ1> yeah
13:00 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: You should be able to get about 15 more villagers now
13:00 <@Dagmar> :)
13:00 < RangerZ1> and there is good reason for that
13:00 < RangerZ1> you max out at 999 in the full game
13:00 <@Evilpig> wtf is bravely default?
13:00 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: It's rather a lot like FF9
13:01 <@Dagmar> There's a demo
13:01 < RangerZ1> you only 'need' 20 for the demo, thats all that transfers over to the full game
13:03 < RangerZ1> its the spiritual successor to FF, to be precise, since a lot of the guys working on it, are from the former FF team (still within Square Enix)
13:06 <@Dagmar> yes, the name is dumb
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13:07 <@Dagmar> Things learned last night... there's apparently some sort of extra reward (might just be text claiming to be a reward) for finishing a fight in one round
13:07 <@Dagmar> i.e., stacking Bravely and roflstomping with the red mage.
13:09 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: So the one notable thing about hte combat in this is that you can actually go ahead and use your next four moves (i.e., acting 'Bravely') in _advance_, but until enough turns have passed to pay back that debt, you're basically just standing there taking hits
13:09 <@Dagmar> It seems cheap but I haven't seen anything survive four rounds of a pair of mages nuking
13:09 < RangerZ1> its one round, so it can be among all them, you also get a bonus for not getting hurt too, it gives you more "JP" job points
13:10 <@Dagmar> I switched my first guy to be a knight because of the boost to defense and since they've got a taunt mechanic in there
13:10 < RangerZ1> the jobs cap out at 4 in the demo
13:10 < RangerZ1> best bet is to unlock the weapon/armor side of the village first
13:10 < RangerZ1> since you have _multiple_ villagers, lol
13:10 <@Dagmar> THankfully when you lose a fight it doesn't go "LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE DEAD.  PRESS 'A' TO START ALL OVER, BITCH."
13:11 <@Dagmar> I have 15 villagers now, yes.  ;)
13:13 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Protip, spoof all the nashXX sites and you will hit me and RangerX like 15 times at least
13:13 <@Evilpig> heh.
13:14 <@Dagmar> You don't even have to exit BD to make it update
13:14 <@Evilpig> I migth run throught them tonight to hit them all at least once to pickup some of the new puzzle pieces
13:14 <@Evilpig> getting close to finishing find mii 2 for the third time too
13:25 < Synx|hm> so... why the fuck would the IT team build a windows VM just for SVN server?
13:25 < Synx|hm> why is everyone in this company so afraid of linux
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13:27 < Synx|hm> more importanly afraid of change
13:28 < RangerZ> YAY
13:28 < RangerZ> I'm rehired...
13:28 <@oddball> yay!
13:28 < RangerZ> not being poor is a good thing... well... not being _flat broke_
13:28 < RangerZ> i'm still going to be poor
13:31 <@Mirage> Ramen and PBJ...mmmMMmmm
13:32 <@Evilpig> Mirage: you're too old to be eating like a college student
13:33 < RangerZ> Mirage: you have no idea
13:33 < RangerZ> thats what I've been eating this past week
13:33 < RangerZ> though... I happen to really enjoy BPJ and ramen
13:33 < RangerZ> PB&J*
13:34 <@Dagmar> Hey hey we have two digit temperatures again!
13:34 < RangerZ> fuck you
13:34 < RangerZ> it'll be 3 quickly enough
13:34 < Synx|hm> toasted PB&J is amazing!!!!
13:35 <@Dagmar> At least my car works properly when it's that hot
13:35 <@Dagmar> ...although generally I take the bike
13:35 < RangerZ> Though I really wish I had gone to the real ramen shop in berkeley, apparently the japanese I knew there said it was surprisingly good for one outside japan
13:36 <@Dagmar> I need someone aroound here to start restocking Kikkoman miso
13:36 < RangerZ> apparently there is an asian store "somewhere" that stocks miso in nashivlle
13:36 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: the asian market over off nolensville?
13:36 < RangerZ> I'll have to ask my friend where it was
13:37 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: That's not "around here"
13:37 <@Evilpig> it's 5 minutes from vandy
13:37 <@Dagmar> ...although now that you mention it I should really go see about K&S
13:37 <@Dagmar> TOO FAR
13:37 <@Evilpig> useless mother fucker..
13:37 <@Dagmar> I want somewhere that I can hit on the way to/from work
13:37 <@Dagmar> ...because I seldom have to drive further than that for anything
13:37 < RangerZ> ingress excluded
13:38 <@Dagmar> Man I wish the client tracked how much XM recharging people do
13:38 <@Dagmar> I'd have a high score there for sure
13:41 < RangerZ> Dagmar: the rate at which I'm hitting the same people on the nintendo zones I'm hitting... there _has_ to be a fair amount of people doing this
13:42 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: COMPLETELY the wwrong time ofyear to buy one but... http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/4210553771.html
13:42 < GateKeeper> Title: 2012 Kymco Agility Scooter (at nashville.craigslist.org)
13:42 <@Dagmar> If you tried to ride it home from there today without a spacesuit, you would die
13:42 < RangerZ> yeah
13:43 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Some of those people are actually local and just driving from location to location
13:43 <@Dagmar> If they were smarter they'd learn about war scanner databases like Wigle.  ;)
13:43 <@Dagmar> I am probably going to dig around some more area's scans of airports
13:43 <@Dagmar> THe Starbucks at BNA gets people from all kinds of weird places
13:44 <@anarchival> NashMicro meetup on machine learning, or the Bitcoin meetup?
13:44 <@anarchival> Machine learning of course don't be silly.
13:45 <@Dagmar> WTF is the thing called that screws go into (that's not a nut)
13:46 <@Evilpig> screw hole?
13:46 <@Mirage> washer?
13:46 <@Mirage> wood?
13:46 <@Mirage> plastic?
13:46 <@Evilpig> parts bin?
13:46 <@anarchival> RangerZ: I bet the Asian market up on the hill on White Bridge would have miso. I've been meaning to visit that place.
13:46 <@Mirage> NL's head?
13:46 <@Dagmar> No
13:46 <@Evilpig> sling shot?
13:46 <@Mirage> tire!@
13:47 <@anarchival> washer?
13:47 <@Mirage> I said that
13:47 <@Dagmar> I don't want to do another set of self-destroying screw mounts on the bike farings
13:47 <@anarchival> Mirage: seconded
13:47 <@Mirage> Dagmar: mabe a better explanation of what you're looking for?
13:47 <@Dagmar> If I'm going to muck about with plastidip again, I'd rather be putting a metal reciever into place for the screws to go into
13:48 <@Mirage> like an anchor?
13:48 <@Dagmar> yes, but metal
13:48 <@anarchival> Dagmar: I'd just give it to Andrew Duthie. "Pls fix?"
13:48 <@Mirage> they're still called anchors...even if they are metal
13:48 <@Evilpig> I second, anchor
13:48 <@Shadow404> i was replacing the back tire on my back and somehow forgot to put he spacer bushing back into the axle and fortunately i had to change something on the chain and realized it was missing, could of been a painful mistake
13:49 <@Shadow404> thank god for mechanics checklist in the aftermarket repair manuals
13:49 <@Mirage> Shadow404: is this "spacer bushing" found in the "washer" section of Lowes/Home Depot"?
13:50 < RangerZ> the all might Hayes god of -mobiles
13:50 <@Shadow404> no no no, its a rubber bushing beteen the tire and the axle to keep it centered, but allow it to give a tad
13:50 <@Shadow404> let me see if i can show you
13:51 <@Shadow404> wheel bearing bushing
13:51 <@Mirage> Just wondering...the "spacer bushings" on my honda to ensure clearance between the front disc brakes and the aluminum wheel is just a slightly fatter than normal washer.
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13:53 <@Mirage> Shadow404: I'm sure it's essentially the same as the frame bushings for my 300zx, or normal suspension bushings.  Metal cylinder, rubber insert, another metal cylinder outside of that.
13:53 < Synx|hm> how is popup dialog box access control different on a website than normal webui...
13:54 < Synx|hm> if the site is still http non SSL/TLS i assume this dialog box is also unencrypted when it gets sent?
13:54 <@Shadow404> ahah, its called a spacer
13:54 <@Dagmar> Lookin' for something like these, but shorter http://www.amazon.com/4-20-Drop-In-Anchor-pieces/dp/B003QZFFPG/ref=sr_1_8?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1389120837&sr=1-8
13:55 <@Shadow404> #5 on the diagram: http://www.bikebandit.com/2001-suzuki-bandit-1200s-gsf1200s/o/m147733#sch244530
13:55 < GateKeeper> Title: 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S GSF1200S Parts, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S GSF1200S OEM Parts - BikeBandit.com (at www.bikebandit.com)
13:55 <@Mirage> Dagmar: using for screws or bolts?
13:55 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Might as well be bolts at this point, but i'd prefer to stick with phillips head screws
13:58 <@Dagmar> All the shit I'm finding is for mounting in concrete
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13:58 <@Dagmar> I may just have to mix something into the plastaid to give it a little more flex and simply redrill everything
13:59 <@Dagmar> I was rather hoping to find some metal cuffs to just replace those screw holes with
13:59 <@Shadow404> not gonna do it, too easy
14:00 < RangerZ> so the only 'bad' thing about Bravely Default... is they censored it... which the chibi costumes is a joke IMHO, but they also cut out a lot of the sexual innuendo
14:01 <@Mirage> Dagmar: would like the small metal things that come with speaker work?  You can get those at just about any auto parts store since they're normally used for trim, etc.
14:01 <@Dagmar> Hey yeah  I'll google for "small metal things"
14:02 <@Dagmar> ;)
14:02 <@Evilpig> that wasn't as amusing as I had figured it would be
14:02 <@anarchival> Dagmar doesn't go to stores. Dagmar only exists on the Internet, and at 2600 meetings.
14:03 <@Dagmar> I mail order the fuck out of things
14:03 <@Evilpig> there might be a law against mail ordering fuck
14:03 <@Dagmar> There's generally a non-envelope in my mailbox about once a week
14:04 <@anarchival> Brides are okay, though. And we all know what those are for.
14:04 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Not having much luck finding them..most sites don't list the really cheap bits
14:04 <@Evilpig> I really wanna take one of these virident cards home to try out sometime. heh
14:04 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Yeah, which is a real bitch
14:05 <@Dagmar> I may try cutting down some plastic drywall anchors
14:05 <@Dagmar> They should be able to bond with the plastaid while it's still liquid
14:06 <@Dagmar> If it werne't so INCREDIBLY GODDAMN COLD I would go by the hardware store tonight and just look to see what they've got
14:06 <@Evilpig> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/anchors-for-sheet-metal.html  none of these?
14:06 < GateKeeper> Title: Anchors For Sheet Metal, Anchors For Sheet Metal Products, Anchors For Sheet Metal Suppliers and Manufacturers at Alibaba.com (at www.alibaba.com)
14:07 <@Dagmar> evilpig: The depth involved here is about a half inch at most
14:07 <@Evilpig> http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/690670806/Self_Adhesive_Hanger_detachable_anchors_for.html
14:07 <@Mirage> Dagmar: There should be more solid ones that go with the "aircraft bolts" in the bins at Home Depot..or at least there used to be.
14:07 < GateKeeper> Title: Self Adhesive Hanger Detachable Anchors For Sheet Metal - Buy Anchor,Insulation,Self Stick Pins Product on Alibaba.com (at www.alibaba.com)
14:07 <@Evilpig> those are essentially flat
14:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah, completely not right
14:11 <@Dagmar> I've seen these fucking things before
14:12 <@Dagmar> THe reciever part was brass with a bumpy diamond texure on the outside
14:12 <@Dagmar> You were supposed to drill a hole in the wood and then shove the things in
14:15 <@Evilpig> that's an anchor
14:15 <@Dagmar> Yep.  All I keep finding online are drywall and concrete anchors
14:15 <@Evilpig> they have them for wood, drywall, and concrete
14:16 <@Evilpig> typically you shouldn't need one for wood but i've seen them for really fine threaded screws
14:17 <@Evilpig> a toggle bolt might work too.  http://www.garvinindustries.com/fasteners/screws-nuts-and-bolts/toggle-bolts
14:17 < GateKeeper> Title: Toggle Bolts (at www.garvinindustries.com)
14:18 <@Dagmar> Wow.  Very no.
14:18 <@Dagmar> Those would stick otu the front of the bike
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14:19 <@Evilpig> then you're pretty much gonna have to get a nut and make your own bracket to hold it
14:21 <@Dagmar> Seems like it
14:35 < aestetix_> vagina
14:36 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Like the ones in the pallets that the sharkracks came on that the bolts went into?
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14:37 <@Evilpig> aestetix_: shouldn't you be flying now?
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14:41 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Here's a selection for you... http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=16410701
14:41 <@oddball> Dagmar: By the way... if you ever need som of the *really* fine grit rubbing compound, I accidentally bought a pound brick of the stuff instead of a 6oz stick to go with the strop I just got.
14:41 < aestetix_> Evilpig: nope
14:41 < aestetix_> Evilpig: my flight is tomorrow
14:42 <@Mirage> Evilpig: You never know...he could be doing another kind of "flying" right now.
14:42 <@oddball> In related news, the knife I carry with me is now "holy shit" sharp. :)
14:42 <@Evilpig> I thought you were gonna be in town tonight
14:42 <@Dagmar> oddball: Toothpaste.  Have you tried it?
14:43 < aestetix_> Evilpig: that is correct
14:43 <@oddball> yes I have.
14:43 <@Dagmar> That's what I use for polish
14:43 < aestetix_> Evilpig: I've been stranded in NJ for the last two days because of the weather.
14:43 < aestetix_> I was supposed to have a flight home on Sunday.
14:44 <@Evilpig> i see
14:44 <@Mirage> aestetix_: That's sounds like the plot for a bad movie
14:45 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... it works well for headlights and such.
14:45 <@Dagmar> Mirage: for reference, (and thanks beause that URL got me close) http://www.amazon.com/Headless-E-Z-Press-Inserts-Plastics/dp/B002GPG2BI/ is the sort of thng I've been looking for
14:46 <@Dagmar> Now I just have to find out if that 0.5 means a half inch or half cm
14:47 <@Dagmar> http://www.ezlok.com/InsertsPlastic/index.html < shame they don't sell to individuals
14:47 < GateKeeper> Title: Thread Inserts for Plastic by E-Z LOK (at www.ezlok.com)
14:49 <@oddball> Dagmar: In the specifications: "system of measurement: metric."
14:49 <@oddball> Of course, they also have weight listed as "0 pounds," so...
14:49 <@Mirage> Dagmar: M3 should be metric..
14:49 <@Dagmar> Yeah
14:49 <@Dagmar> But that doesn't specify depth
14:50 <@Dagmar> That'll almost certainly be for the size of the screw that goes inside
14:51 <@oddball> Wouldn't M3 descrbe the width, while the 0.5 describe length?
14:51 <@Dagmar> I'll dig through this more later,. but it looks like someone on Amazon sells most of the e-z lok catalog a piece or two at a time
14:51 <@Dagmar> oddball: yes, but 0.5 whats
14:51 <@oddball> cm
14:51 <@Dagmar> We hope
14:51 <@Dagmar> I've bookmarked that shit to go through later tonight when I'm at home
14:52 <@Dagmar> I'm *very* spoiled from the other sites I dig shit up on
14:52 <@Dagmar> They've always got a drafting diagram available
14:52 <@Dagmar> ...which has the units *labeled*
14:52 <@Mirage> M3 x 0.5 3mm .1181 .5 2,5mm #39
14:52 <@oddball> Jesus... I just looked at the shipping.  $9.25 to drop one in an envelope and send it to you?
14:52 <@Mirage> http://www.carbidedepot.com/formulas-tap-metric.htm
14:52 < GateKeeper> Title: Tap Chart Metric Threads (at www.carbidedepot.com)
14:52 <@Dagmar> oddball: I'll be ordering at least a dozen of them, so as long as they don't ship them INDIVIDUALLY I don't care
14:53 <@oddball> Well, yeah... but still.
14:53 <@Dagmar> I generlly expect to spend between $7-10 for shipping on shit that'll go into my mailbox
14:54 <@Dagmar> ...and at the moment, I'm down to a grand total of four screws out of the original six
14:54 <@Dagmar> I'd rather fix that before spring
14:54 <@Dagmar> ...and fix it *permanently* when I do so
14:54 <@Dagmar> There may not be much stock stuff left on this bike if I eventually sell it off, but it will damn well all have been upgraded well
14:56 <@oddball> heh.
14:57 <@oddball> And maybe next time you'll buy something from a brand people have actually heard of? :p
14:57 <@Dagmar> No, I won't.
14:58 <@Dagmar> Vespa is too motherfucking expensive
14:58 <@Dagmar> WAY too fucking expensive
14:58 <@oddball> I'll agree with you there/
14:58 <@Dagmar> Kymco is actually the largest manuf down there
14:58 <@Dagmar> I have far more problems with flakester mechanics than I do the bike
14:59 <@oddball> gotcha
15:05 <@Dolemite> I've actually seen a LOT more of Kymco in the past 5 years
15:06 <@Dagmar> They're actually a big name overseas
15:06 <@Dolemite> But when Dagmar first bought his scooter, it was definitely not widely known...
15:06 <@Dolemite> well, not widely known in TN
15:08 <@Dolemite> Seriously?  Mother fuckin' temperature is back down from lunch time, and this is supposed to be the hottest part of the day.
15:09 <@Dagmar> It's a balmy 19F here now
15:09 <@Dolemite> 6 F here
15:09 <@Dagmar> We'll be able to run around outside naked this weekend
15:09 < aestetix_> ugh
15:09 < aestetix_> I may have to call off going into the city
15:09 < aestetix_> time constraints today fucking suck
15:14 <@Evilpig> tell me about it
15:14 <@Evilpig> that shit on US1 yesterday completely fucked me
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15:17 <@Evilpig> aestetix_: if you end up not going into the city and can make it down this direction i'll buy dinner
15:18 <@Evilpig> aestetix_: http://www.arthurstavern.com/
15:18 <@Dolemite> aestetix_: Careful, he expects you to put out after he buys dinner.  Don't ask me how I know.
15:18 < GateKeeper> Title: Arthur’s Tavern – One of the Most Favorite Steakhouses in NJ (at www.arthurstavern.com)
15:19 <@Evilpig> this is true
15:33 < aestetix_> where is "this direction"?
15:33 <@Evilpig> north brunswick
15:33 < aestetix_> ahh ok
15:34 < aestetix_> I think all my plans today are fucked because of the weather.
15:35 <@Dagmar> THEY ARE FROM HELL
15:35 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, I thoguht you typed 'One Direction'.
15:40 <@Dagmar> Quick!  Whats' the difference between /etc/mtab and /proc/mounts
15:40 <@brimstone> users can fuck up /etc/mtab
15:41 <@brimstone> it's far harder to fuck up /proc/mounts
15:41 <@Dagmar> Well, mainly I'm trying to figure out an elegant solution to a problem we had here recently
15:42 <@Dagmar> Something fucked up the SAN fiber, and a shitton of systems had their filesstems marked read-only
15:42 <@Dagmar> As far as I know, /etc/mtab is populated by mount, so if it sez 'rw' it generally means the disk was mounted rw.
15:42 <@Dagmar> ...but the question is, will the ro fileystem show as ro in /proc/mounts, I wondeer...
15:43 <@Dagmar> I'd like to monitor for ro filesystems *without* touching the directories repeatedly
15:43 <@brimstone> i *think* /proc/mounts is your goto then
15:44 <@Dagmar> Maybe if we're lukcy someone hasn't rebooted all their servers yet
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15:45 <@Dagmar> Hmm... Found some StackExchange postings that say /proc/mounts will show ro
15:46 < aestetix_> ok
15:46 < aestetix_> where do people get the idea that it's ok to nuke their email account before they quit a job
15:46 <@Dagmar> huh?
15:47 <@Dagmar> did someone spoil HR's surprise?
15:47 <@brimstone> last job, i ran on an encrypted drive IT didn't control
15:47 < aestetix_> one of our devs just emoquit.... and deleted all his email and all documents that were his
15:47 <@brimstone> walked out with the only copy of the keys
15:47 <@brimstone> aestetix_: just restore from backups
15:47 <@brimstone> you guys make backups of everyone's email right?
15:48 < aestetix_> brimstone: well yes
15:48 < aestetix_> It's just fucking stupid that he did that
15:48 <@Evilpig> print off his personal email and mail it to him
15:48 <@Dagmar> For bonus points tell him you had to ask the NSA for a copy
15:48 <@Evilpig> along with a bill for the recovery
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15:53 <@Dagmar> Damnit.  I want to smoke a cig but it's SO GODDAMN COLD
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15:57 <@rattle> Sitting here from my high horse up in Boston, you look like a pussy.
15:57 <@Shadow404> e-cigarette allowed at your work?
15:57 <@Shadow404> haha
16:21 < aestetix_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVeTVjTJum0
16:21 < GateKeeper> Title: L.A. BEAST vs 150 MCDONALDS CHICKEN MCNUGGETS - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:21 < Synx|hm> pornhub just did an AMA on reddit
16:21 < Synx|hm> and now i know about porniq... on my god... its amazing
16:22 <@rattle> url?
16:22 < Synx|hm> *NFSW* http://www.porniq.com *NFSW*
16:22 < GateKeeper> Title: PornIQ | Watch Porn Curated By XXX Specialists For Your Needs (at www.porniq.com)
16:23 <@Evilpig> what's the url to the ama?
16:23 <@Evilpig> tard
16:23 <@Shadow404> what? curated pron?
16:23 <@Shadow404> lawl
16:24 < Synx|hm> haha
16:24 < Synx|hm> sorry
16:24 <@Shadow404> at least you did mark it as nsfw
16:24 <@Shadow404> will have to check it when i get home later tonight
16:24 < Synx|hm> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1un3wn/we_are_the_pornhub_team_ask_us_anything/ still somewhat NSFW
16:24 < GateKeeper> Title: We are the Pornhub team. Ask Us Anything. : IAmA (at www.reddit.com)
16:25 < Synx|hm> mobile site seems good too
16:29 <@anarchival> I think I just talked Andrew into visiting Pinewood Social before the NashMicro meeting. We're nerds infiltrating the heart of hipster territory.
16:29 <@anarchival> Also, bowling!
16:30 <@Mirage> Shadow404: I have yet to see "clove" e-cigs
16:30 <@anarchival> Dagmar: I feel the same way, except I prefer cigars.
16:32 <@Mirage> "[CentOS-announce] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat"
16:32 <@Mirage> http://www.centos.org/
16:32 < GateKeeper> Title: CentOS project (at www.centos.org)
16:33 <@Evilpig> werne't they already semi-joined?
16:33 <@Bahhumbug> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-January/020100.html
16:33 < GateKeeper> Title: [CentOS-announce] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat (at lists.centos.org)
16:33 <@Bahhumbug> Fuck
16:33 <@Bahhumbug> A
16:33 <@Bahhumbug> Duck
16:33 <@Shadow404> Mirage: that does suck
16:33 <@Bahhumbug> No, there was never any connection other than RHT is upstream for CentOS (and Serentos, Scientific, PUIAS, GoOSe, etc)
16:34 <@Shadow404> they need more variety
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16:36 <@brimstone> wait, so centos is now fedora?
16:38 <@brimstone> oh, "@jimjag: CentOS is that middle ground between production, enterprise RHEL and cutting-edge Fedora."
16:39 <@Evilpig> fuck
16:39 <@anarchival> "working alongside the Fedora and RHEL ecosystem..."
16:39 <@anarchival> Wow.
16:40 <@Bahhumbug> Um, that quote is pretty wrong.
16:40 <@anarchival> "meritocratic governance policy" lol
16:40 <@anarchival> I love it when people use satire words seriously.
16:40 <@Bahhumbug> "He who contributes gets a say."
16:40 <@Bahhumbug> It's really quite simple.
16:40 <@anarchival> Good news for the open source community, though? Right? Right?
16:41 <@Bahhumbug> Actually, yes.  This is _extremely_ good news.
16:41 <@Bahhumbug> In fact, I can't think of anything I would rather see at this point.
16:41 <@Evilpig> brimstone: like "phreaknic code of conduct" ?
16:42 <@brimstone> phreaknic has a code of conduct?
16:42 <@Bahhumbug> This guaramtees future CentOS (and other respins) releases.
16:42 <@anarchival> This is like that time with Netscape and Mozilla.
16:43 <@Shadow404> Synx|hm: ok, thats just cool
16:43 <@Shadow404> saved it at home to view later
16:43 <@Bahhumbug> Love people that chime in when they really don't know what it is they are chiming in about.
16:44 <@timoguin> I think many things.
16:44 <@timoguin> About that.
16:44 <@timoguin> Yea
16:44 <@timoguin> what are we talking about?
16:45 <@Evilpig> talking about when you buy dinner, the receiving person puts out
16:45 <@anarchival> Speaking of a cool project that just got open-sourced: https://github.com/codecombat/codecombat
16:45 < GateKeeper> Title: codecombat/codecombat · GitHub (at github.com)
16:54 <@oddball> You know it's cold when... http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/inmate_turns_self_in_freezing_temps
16:54 < GateKeeper> Title: Police: Escaped Inmate Turned Himself In Due To Freezing Temps In Kentucky (at talkingpointsmemo.com)
16:54 <@benthemeek> Saw the CentOS news and raced to the channel to see what peeps were saying
16:54 <@Evilpig> old news.  now we're talking about that ugly shirt you're wearing
16:54  * benthemeek looks at his shirt
16:56 <@benthemeek> anarchival: I made it to level 4 before having to go tuck the kiddos in last night.
16:56 <@benthemeek> Its a really neat idea.
16:57 <@anarchival> benthemeek: Sweet! I might put together a "learn to hack with Code Combat" presentation the way I did with Minecraft.
16:57 <@benthemeek> (I strongly missed vi and kept screwing up the formating because of it.) I guess I can just copy and paste into vim though
16:57 <@anarchival> benthemeek: Jason Orendorff is doing a Code Day with some middle school teachers coming up. He's got to know about this...
16:57 <@anarchival> benthemeek: vim. psht. Why don't you use emacs? ;)
16:58 <@Evilpig> I've been told my powers that be that you should be watching this.  http://screen.yahoo.com/ces-2014/
16:58 <@benthemeek> anarchival: /me sighs... we are no longer friends
16:58 <@timoguin> friendship rejected.
16:59 <@benthemeek> You have to draw the line somewhere, and emacs it is...
16:59 <@timoguin> reason: incompatible editor religion
16:59 <@anarchival> Sigh. This is why people hate me. Emacs.
16:59 <@benthemeek> there are 15 people on my floor that have to use a text editor
17:00 <@Mirage> anarchival: sadist
17:00 <@benthemeek> 12 of them use an ancient micro-emacs. 3 of us are vi
17:00 <@benthemeek> I introduced them to vim and they wont turn back
17:01 <@anarchival> My favorite thing about emacs is org mode. And Lisp, of course.
17:01 <@Mirage> They need to port 'ee' from FreeBSD to linux
17:01 <@timoguin> it's a muscle memory thing
17:01 <@Evilpig> http://ubuntuce.com/
17:01 < GateKeeper> Title: Ubuntu Christian Edition -- Linux For Christians (at ubuntuce.com)
17:01 <@timoguin> org mode IS cool
17:01 <@timoguin> i've been meaning to figure out how to use org mode in vim
17:01 <@anarchival> Using vim is easier. Absolutely.
17:01 <@benthemeek> I am not sure what org mode is... /me googles it
17:02 <@Evilpig> !google org mode vim
17:02 <@Evilpig> useless bot
17:03 <@Bahhumbug> @google org mode vim
17:03 < GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: jceb/vim-orgmode · GitHub: <https://github.com/jceb/vim-orgmode>; vim-orgmode - Text outlining and task management for Vim based ...: <http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3642>; VimOrganizer - An Emacs Org-mode clone for Vim : vim online: <http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3342>; Org-mode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (1 more message)
17:03 <@Bahhumbug> @more
17:03 < GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Org-mode>; VimOrganizer1: Org-mode clone for Vim on Vimeo: <http://vimeo.com/16543959>; Mailing list - Org-mode: <http://orgmode.org/community.html>; Org mode for Emacs – Your Life in Plain Text: <http://orgmode.org/>; Script:List of scripts for outlining - Vim Tips Wiki: <http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Script:List_of_scripts_for_outlining>
17:03 <@benthemeek> Perhaps at the next 2600 you can show off this strange org-mode and why one might need such a thing
17:03 <@Evilpig> I said useless bot and i'm sticking with it
17:04 <@Evilpig> aestetix_: you have my number if you want to try to grab dinner right?
17:04 <@anarchival> Witchcraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUR_eUVcABg
17:04 < GateKeeper> Title: Xiki: Can your shell console do this? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:04 <@anarchival> (the editor discussion made me remember that for some reason)
17:04 <@Evilpig> i'm outta here
17:04 <@anarchival> benthemeek: you would like it! I'll demo it for you
17:05 <@anarchival> benthemeek: Also this guy has some decent tutorials: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W82EdwQhxU
17:05 < GateKeeper> Title: Hack Emacs - An Overview of Org Mode - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:06 <@benthemeek> anarchival: OMG Im sold on Xiki
17:06 <@anarchival> benthemeek: Yeah watching that video for the first time was like watching the Matrix. My entire reality was changed.
17:08 <@benthemeek> I guess its not quite as simply as dropping it in next to /bin/bash and /bin/ksh though huh
17:09 <@anarchival> benthemeek: It's actually a wiki, that acts like a command prompt. I can help you with it, but it will have to be later because I'm about to leave.
17:10  * benthemeek mutters "wikis wikis everywhere..."
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17:10 <@benthemeek> I went through the process of installing and trying 3 or 4 the past few weeks. It was a  rather maddening experience at times
17:13 <@Dagmar> I was all excited until... Ruby.
17:13 <@Dagmar> Fuck that.
17:15 <@benthemeek> Dagmar: me thinks this ruby thing sjust wont go away and perhaps its time I learn something about it...
17:16 <@timoguin> lol it definitely isn't going away
17:16 <@Dagmar> I think it's a matter of it being *far* to early to say things like that
17:16 <@Dagmar> ...and whether or not the haphazard data handling will send all of it's promoters to the poorhouse
17:18 <@Corydon76-work> It's a tool, like any other, and all tools can be abused.  Some, more easily than others.
17:19 <@timoguin> logstash and vagrant are my two favorite ruby tools.
17:19 <@timoguin> logstash actually being jruby
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17:19 <@timoguin> which is fun to pronounce like "jrooooby"
17:25 <@Corydon76-work> Ah, I love it when I cannot reproduce a user problem
17:39 <@Dagmar> Oh der
17:39 <@Dagmar> er dear
17:39 <@Dagmar> Anyone have Sugery SImulator 2013?
17:39 <@Dagmar> er Surgery
17:39 <@Dagmar> Apparently the telephone in it makes calls
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17:49 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
17:50 <@Evilpig> should have known that my ups batteries were here from my mail being stuck in the door of the mailbox
17:50 <@Dagmar> A butt is an actual unit of measurement equal to 108 imperial gallons
17:50 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: well, at least you didn't have to cesarean them out
17:50 <@Evilpig> true.  I think getting my mail stuck to where I had to nearly tear it to get it out was his way of saying thank for the heavy box
17:51 <@Dagmar> heh
17:51 <@Evilpig> now to perform surgery.  thanks apc
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17:59 <@Evilpig> now where's the duct tape?
18:01 <@sdodson> Evilpig, for me?!
18:05 <@rattle> McAfee is rebranding itself as Intel Security.
18:05 <@Evilpig> now that I look for it.  I haven't seen my tape gun since I left nashville
18:05 <@rattle> Boy, I sure hope that fixes all their problems like Comcast did when it renamed it's service Xfinity.
18:07 <@oddball> Well, at least people will stop asking Mr McAfee how to uninstall the software.
18:07 <@rattle> Maybe we should rename Bit9 to ShitThatWorks.
18:09 <@Evilpig> You think false advertising is gonna help?
18:11 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cazig4m8j7xqiek/2014-01-07%2018.10.38.jpg
18:11 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2014-01-07 18.10.38.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
18:11 <@Evilpig> how's it look?  like an oem apc battery pack?  lol
18:14 <@Dagmar> Dpeends on when they started shipping in IED form-factor
18:15 <@Evilpig> couldn't find any tape to get the seam better than the electrical tape
18:20 <@Evilpig> well fuck me
18:20 <@Evilpig> the control board went out in it as well
18:21 <@Evilpig> even with a new battery it isn't wanting to go online
18:21 < aestetix_> ugh
18:21 < aestetix_> what a day
18:21 <@Evilpig> yeah tell me about it
18:21 <@Evilpig> we pulled 30+ 1TB PCI-E flash cards
18:22 <@sdodson> Have more effective patching systems and windows defender obviated the need for A/V?
18:22 < aestetix_> sdodson: with Windows, I doubt it
18:22 <@sdodson> that and hyper aggressive browser updates
18:35 < aestetix_> So
18:35 < aestetix_> Is it a universal thing for a CEO to be a sociopath, or is that just an American thing?
18:35 <@sdodson> aestetix_, true
18:36 <@sdodson> aestetix_, I think in most situations those who climbed their way up rapidly are
18:36 <@sdodson> it seems to take a certain amount of willingness to fuck other people over to move up quickly
18:37 < aestetix_> sdodson: that's true
18:38 <@sdodson> There's obviously exceptions to that though.
18:39 <@sdodson> I think it's probably more cut through in the Sr. Manager to Director level arena. Once you get above that level people chill out.
18:39 <@sdodson> throat
18:43 < nachoguy> depends upon the size/age of the company
18:44 < nachoguy> a medium to large company but relatively young, there will be a plenty of crazies.
18:44 < nachoguy> small company, been around more than 25 years, probably closer to sane
18:44 < nachoguy> obviously ymmv
18:45 < aestetix_> small agewise, or sizewize?
18:45 < aestetix_> actually yeah, agewise makes sense
18:45 < nachoguy> http://www.amazon.com/Snakes-Suits-When-Psychopaths-Work/dp/0061147893
18:46 < nachoguy> good book on the subject
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18:48 <@sdodson> i need a new e-reader :-(
18:49 < nachoguy> I still love my nook reader
18:49 < nachoguy> i sometimes with it had the glow thing, but other than that, it's perfect
18:53 <@sdodson> My nook has taken to dropping 15% of battery life in a day of non use.
18:54 < nachoguy> the e-ink one?
18:55 < nachoguy> How bad does it drain while using it?
18:55 < nachoguy> I sometimes go a month without charging, even with a couple of hours a day reading.
18:55 < nachoguy> but I leave wifi off
18:56 < nachoguy> anywho, I'm out of here
18:56 < nachoguy> later
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18:57 <@sdodson> nachoguy, Yeah the 1st gen e-ink one. This is in airplane mode. I imagine it's about the same. I suspect the battery is just shot, and at $23 to replace I'm not sure if I want to do that or just get a nook paperwhite.
18:59 < Synx|hm> hur dur
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19:07 <@oddball> nachoguy: I have the glowing one.  I like that it's more like a Timex watch glow than a backlit LCD.
19:10 <@Dagmar> Replace battery, sell old unit.
19:13 < Synx|hm> that michael bay video is hilarious
19:13 < Synx|hm> poor guy must be so shy
19:19 < Synx|hm> what should be the first thing that occurres when i ping an WAN address
19:19 < Synx|hm> an ARP request to find the MAC on the WAN IP?
19:19 < Synx|hm> shouldn't that only occur if there is no gateway?
19:20 <@anarchival> Me: "I know! A Morse code keyboard on Android." Greg: *shows me the app already on his phone*
19:22 < Synx|hm> i should note ping an external address like google.com from private subnet lan address
19:23 < Synx|hm> i would think id see a pack goto my gateway which should aready be in the arp table and then from there out to the world and not an ARP request for a google IP on my LAN
19:30 < aestetix_> vagina
19:31 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Populaton... 21?  Didn't think that was possible
19:39 < aestetix_> you know
19:39 < aestetix_> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/skip-work-have-sex-russians-celebrate-day-of-conception-as-sporting-community-continues-to-criticise-putins-antigay-legislation-8812840.html
19:40 < aestetix_> There's something deeply wrong with a culture when you have to make people have sex
19:43 <@anarchival> NashMicro might be doing a one day makeathon for this: http://iotevents.org/details/2014-internet-of-things-day
19:43 < GateKeeper> Title: 2014 Internet of Things Day | Details - Internet of Things Events (at iotevents.org)
19:44 <@brimstone> what's NashMicro?
19:44 <@anarchival> If youse guys would be interested, check them out: https://plus.google.com/communities/113168301409955370802
19:44 <@anarchival> brimstone: It's basically the maker user group.
19:44 <@anarchival> brimstone: Ian Lee runs it. All-around nice guy.
19:59 < Synx|hm> ugh
20:06 < RangerZ> Dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQj2nR-phsk here is a drone with 1080p camera
20:06 < GateKeeper> Title: DJI Phantom 2 Vision High Performance 1080p Quadrocopter - CES 2014 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:06 < Synx|hm> iproute2 usage evades me
20:06 < RangerZ> metro PD would love it
20:06 < Synx|hm> it will not use my fucking rules
20:06 < RangerZ> ohh wait... as long as 'they' own it , and not you, lol
20:09 <@anarchival> That reminds me: https://github.com/shadow-box/Violent-Python-Examples/blob/master/Chapter-5/7-uavSniff.py
20:09 < GateKeeper> Title: Violent-Python-Examples/Chapter-5/7-uavSniff.py at master · shadow-box/Violent-Python-Examples · GitHub (at github.com)
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20:25 <@Shadow404> Synx|hm: i hate you
20:25 <@Shadow404> 3 hrs in no sleep
20:25 <@Shadow404> im in pain
20:31 < Synx|hm> haha you enjoying some quality iq?
20:33 <@Shadow404> probably....
20:33  * Shadow404 whistles
20:36 < Synx|hm> :)
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20:58 < aestetix_> wait what
20:58 < aestetix_> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-January/020100.html
20:58 < GateKeeper> Title: [CentOS-announce] CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat (at lists.centos.org)
20:59 < aestetix_> CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
20:59 < aestetix_> I thought CentOS basically *was* redhat, minus the support
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21:14 <@brimstone> now Red Hat is paying them
21:18 <@sdodson> Synx|hm, i dunno if you have to arp the gateway or not
21:21 <@sdodson> aestetix_, centos is compiled from rhel sources yes
21:32 < Synx|hm> the key is even if i have to arp the gateway it would be the gateway and not the google dns server i am trying to ping
21:32 < Synx|hm> ha
21:32 < Synx|hm> clearly something wrong with my iproute2 rules and gateway selection
21:33 < Synx|hm> just odd that it worked for a year up until now
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21:49 <@SuMo_D> The Laser! it buuuuuurns
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21:52 <@Shadow404> dont look into it!
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22:03 < aestetix_> penis
22:29 < RangerZ> don't look into that either
22:34 <@Shadow404> yeah, that just aestetix_ be well aestetix_
22:36 <@eryc> sdodson: why
22:37 <@sdodson> eryc, hi buddy
22:37 <@eryc> sup
22:38 <@eryc> what are you doing with centos
22:39 <@sdodson> eryc, make glorious times
22:40 <@eryc> make: *** No rule to make target `glorious'.  Stop.
22:42 < aestetix_> vagina
22:43 < aestetix_> this is annoying
22:43 <@benthemeek> tibia
22:43 < aestetix_> I have lots of euros, but no usd
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22:45 < aestetix_> wow reddit is amazing
22:46 <@eryc> i'll give you 1usd for every euro
22:46 < aestetix_> this guy is a 24 year old virgin, posted that he was doing on a date
22:46 < aestetix_> now all these new threads are popping up as tributes to him
22:46  * eryc waits for the amazing
22:46 < aestetix_> hahaha
22:46 <@sdodson> eryc, i'm here
22:46 < aestetix_> someones's comment
22:46 < aestetix_> "Giving you a 20 gun salute. Would be 21 gun's, but one of them fired off prematurely. "
22:47 <@sdodson> "Avoid doing any meditation while operating any heavy machinery."
22:48 <@eryc> i am the zingiest!
22:49 <@eryc> internet comments today are either crazy, stupid, or zingy
22:51 < aestetix_> also, vagina
22:56 <@eryc> yes
22:57 < aestetix_> eryc: what's the difference between a kitten and a hairbrush
22:59 < aestetix_> wow I just saved myself some drama
22:59 < aestetix_> I was aobout to reply to an innocent looking comment about giving talks
22:59 < aestetix_> until I realized it was a loaded question being asked by one of the fauxminists
23:01 <@eryc> idk what
23:01 < aestetix_> https://twitter.com/ashedryden/status/420536273531457536
23:01 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / ashedryden: Male speaker friends: how often ... (at twitter.com)
23:01 < aestetix_> there is no good way to answer that
23:03 <@eryc> appears to be a trap
23:03 <@eryc> what's the difference between a kitten and a hairbrush
23:04 < aestetix_> a hairbrush doesn't meow at you when you put it in your buttcrack
23:04 <@sdodson> aestetix_, how do you define fauxminists?
23:05 <@eryc> heh
23:05 < aestetix_> sdodson: someone who takes the feminist label and uses it to further their own agenda
23:05 <@sdodson> aestetix_, and how do you feel about these folks http://goodmenproject.com/ ?
23:05 < aestetix_> I don't know
23:05 < aestetix_> lemme look :p
23:06 <@eryc> looks gay
23:07 < aestetix_> sdodson: their about page is kind of vague. What is it?
23:07 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix_: I like @FallenPegasus' answer
23:07 <@eryc> it appears to be an effiminate man web magazine
23:08 < aestetix_> Corydon76-work: heh yeah
23:08 < aestetix_> I mean, I think it depends on the talk, and the speaker.
23:09 < aestetix_> Like, if I give a talk on something I know nothing about, I will get a lot of flack for it.
23:09 < aestetix_> Likewise, if I give a talk and I'm super monotonous and boring.....
23:09 <@eryc> isn't that all women talks
23:09 < RangerZ> you've given a talk where you weren't?
23:09 < aestetix_> RangerZ: har har
23:09 < RangerZ> hehe
23:09 < aestetix_> That said
23:10 < aestetix_> I also don't give a talk that I know will piss people off.
23:10 <@eryc> why do you give talks
23:10 < aestetix_> IE if you go to a conference and give a talk about why sexism happens at that conference, you're going to get people telling you you are wrong
23:10 < aestetix_> eryc: because it makes the baby jesus cry
23:10 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ is half right.  Your talks are never boring, but you do have a way of being monotonous
23:10 < aestetix_> ok
23:11 <@eryc> burn
23:11 < aestetix_> I was thinking more Ben Stein monotonous
23:11 < RangerZ> its not his fault... He's from oakland, not san fran or somewhere where people are happy to be alive
23:11 <@Corydon76-work> Ben Stein is intentionally monotonous, though
23:11 < aestetix_> But yeah, I think it might be more complex than "you're wrong because you're a woman"
23:12 <@Corydon76-work> He'd lose his cachet if he stopped acting that way
23:12 <@eryc> women are stupid and can't be trusted
23:12 <@eryc> aestetix_: your next talk ^
23:12 <@Corydon76-work> eryc: so when's the last time you gave a talk?
23:13 <@eryc> i don't give talks
23:13 <@eryc> not unless i'm getting paid
23:13 <@Corydon76-work> Sure.  When's the last time you gave a paid talk.
23:13 < aestetix_> I will give you a genuine americn dollar
23:14 < RangerZ> I'll throw in a quarter
23:14 <@eryc> Corydon76-work: that's classified
23:14 <@Corydon76-work> You're such a liar
23:15 <@Corydon76-work> Hell, I suck at giving talks, and I've done a few
23:15 < aestetix_> You know
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23:15 < aestetix_> I have gone up to people and told them I dsagreed with things in their talk
23:15 < aestetix_> But it had nothing to do with them being male or female
23:16 <@Corydon76-work> But at least I have the balls to actually get up and give talks before I criticize others for theirs.
23:16 < RangerZ> you slapping their asses... that did... but thats a separate issue
23:16 < aestetix_> RangerZ: it was looking at me funny
23:17 <@eryc> Corydon76-work: you're retarded
23:18 <@Corydon76-work> eryc: You're a coward
23:18 <@eryc> no i don't give a fuck about teaching other people
23:19 <@eryc> i'm a selfish asshole
23:19 <@Corydon76-work> LOL.  You think public speaking has ANYTHING to do with teaching?
23:19 <@Corydon76-work> Dude, it's a fuckin' ego trip.
23:20 <@eryc> again, retarded
23:20 < aestetix_> eryc: you should go to Harlem and give a talk about racial diversity
23:20 < aestetix_> actually that ashe woman should
23:20 <@Dagmar> Hey how many Freudian psychiatrists does it take to screw in a light bulb
23:20 <@Corydon76-work> When I go to conferences to speak, I get a special badge which gets me into areas the general population doesn't get to go, and young guys look at me, like they want me to bend them over a chair and fuck them silly
23:21 < aestetix_> Corydon76-work: I think ware was just drunk
23:21 < aestetix_> That said, he could use a good pegging
23:22 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix_: I'll find you an aluminum baseball bat for you to use on him.  I'm pretty sure that can be sterilized afterwards
23:22  * Dagmar quietly puts his away flag back up and steps away from the computer
23:23 <@Dagmar> I take it ware has got people on NLUG pretty worked up, huh?
23:23 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: I was actually talking about Astricon, not PhreakNIC
23:23 < aestetix_> Oh I get it you mean the bat is supposed to be rammed up his butt, you were making a penis joke
23:23 <@Dagmar> No, *I* was making the penis joke, actually.
23:23 <@eryc> didn't you get fired from astricon
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23:24 <@Corydon76-work> I was never on Astricon's staff, so can't be fired
23:24 <@eryc> and how about aserisk
23:24 <@Corydon76-work> I did talks 2 years in a row before my GAD got the best of me
23:24 < aestetix_> GAD?
23:25 <@Corydon76-work> Generalized Anxiety Disorder
23:25 <@Dagmar> You need Fukitol
23:25 <@Corydon76-work> It's why I work from home now
23:25 <@Dagmar> THey make it in both vodka and cinnamon schnapps flavors now
23:25 <@eryc> because everywhere you go people stare at you like they want to fuck you?
23:26 <@eryc> that sounds normal to me
23:26 <@Corydon76-work> eryc: no, because I hate crowds of people
23:26  * Evilpig stares at Corydon76-work 
23:27 <@Corydon76-work> Pig:  the day you want to fuck me, Satan will be buying a snowblower
23:27 <@Evilpig> lol
23:27 <@Evilpig> how true
23:27 <@Dagmar> If we could not say shit like that when it's 11F outside I would appreciate it
23:28 < RangerZ> but he carefully didn't say ...the other way around... lol
23:28 <@Dagmar> Thankyew
23:28 <@Corydon76-work> Actually, the day you want to fuck me, you'll sprout wings and fly (pigs will fly).
23:28 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ: what, that Pig would want me to fuck him?
23:28 <@eryc> i saw pigs fly on a geico commercial. it was real.
23:28 <@Evilpig> damnit.  the rear case fan on my server is starting to crap out.  I keep hearing it in there start vibrating
23:28 <@Dagmar> Bah I saw pigs fly on a screensaver
23:29 <@eryc> i saw toasters!!!!
23:29 < RangerZ> Corydon76-work: who knows... maybe he wants a gimp suit
23:31 <@Corydon76-work> For all of my reputation, the only guys I've actually had sex with at PhreakNIC were gay long before they arrived there.
23:32 < RangerZ> they just didn't know it?
23:32 < RangerZ> lol j/k
23:33 <@Corydon76-work> One was a virgin that I know of... maybe two
23:33 <@eryc> nice hijack btw
23:33 <@Evilpig> what a customer of mine did with the cold.  https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/s720x720/1604745_10201016903407199_226755864_n.jpg
23:34 <@Corydon76-work> eryc: thank you
23:34 < aestetix_> penis
23:34 <@Dagmar> Someone should try feeding their 3D printer water in weather like this
23:35 <@Corydon76-work> I suspect the feed lines would seize up
23:35 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Tell them next time to make two of them and to leave them sticking out of a snowbank
23:35 <@Corydon76-work> Kind of like half of the waterfall outside
23:35 <@Evilpig> he said he's leaving it in the freezer til someone brings over a punchbowl
23:35 <@Corydon76-work> The thinner of the two tubes froze solid
23:37 <@Dagmar> You really would only have to keep the lines barely above freezing
23:38 <@Evilpig> guess I best get to sleep
23:38 < RangerZ> Corydon76-work: PM
23:38 <@Corydon76-work> Sorry, was taking a piss
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23:41 <@SuMo_D> suuuuup
23:41 < RangerZ> nm
23:41 <@Corydon76-work> New experience, tonight.  I tried being intentionally creepy to a kid so he would stop asking me to text him dick pics
23:42 <@Corydon76-work> Unfortunately, it didn't work.
23:42 <@Dagmar> Send him "8==D ~~~"
23:42 <@Dagmar> Done.
23:42 <@Corydon76-work> lol
23:42 <@Corydon76-work> I don't even want him to have my cell number
23:43 < RangerZ> google voice is great of this... just blocked at the server end
23:43 <@Dagmar> Install Surgery Simlator 2013
23:43 <@Dagmar> Apparently it makes phone calls.  Can probably send SMS
23:43 <@Corydon76-work> I have Google Voice for cell voicemail...
23:48 <@anarchival> Dammit I just watched the trailer for To The Moon and I'm nearly crying. It's goddamn 16bit.
23:48 < aestetix_> heh
23:48 < aestetix_> Dagmar: just went through another round of mopping the floor with the IDESG folks
23:48 <@anarchival> Corydon: I don't know how to get dudes to stop doing that, even when they're related to me.
23:49 < aestetix_> http://mail.idecosystem.org/pipermail/taxonomy_idecosystem.org/2014-January/000581.html
23:49 < GateKeeper> Title: [Taxonomy] Our First 2014 Taxonomy AHG Meeting - Thursday, 1/9 @ 12:30 PM ET (at mail.idecosystem.org)
23:49 < aestetix_> this is why they don't like me
23:50 < aestetix_> taking what I want done, rewriting it in their langage, and wording it in a way nobody can refute
23:50 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: change all your online profiles to "male"
23:50 < aestetix_> anarchival: what were dudes doing to you
23:51 <@Corydon76-work> Probably the same, sending dick pics
23:51 < aestetix_> you should send a dick pic to the IDESG list
23:51 <@Corydon76-work> Why the hell does anyone think that's erotic?
23:52 < aestetix_> you know, I thought about that a bit
23:52 <@Corydon76-work> ESPECIALLY when you see half of the pics, which are nauseating, not sexy at all
23:52 < aestetix_> Since men seem to be fixated on dick and pussy, whereas woman are more.... explorative
23:52 < RangerZ> they just want to know size, not about being sexy
23:52 < aestetix_> I wonder if it has to do with erogenous zones
23:53 <@Corydon76-work> There was a guy last night who kept sending me photos of his ass and muscled abs
23:53 < RangerZ> you know... I need to get girls to send me pics like that....
23:53 < aestetix_> of their penises?
23:53 <@Corydon76-work> I kept telling him I just wanted to be friends, and he kept telling me he wanted me to fuck him
23:53 < RangerZ> sure, it would be informative if nothing else
23:54 < aestetix_> so I want to twitter this, but social convention holds me back
23:54 <@anarchival> No, penis photos are not sexy. They are even less sexy when they are sent by relatives.
23:54 < aestetix_> "Remember kids, if you have a secret, that makes you better than everyone else!"
23:55 < aestetix_> anarchival: jesus where are your relatives? arkansas?
23:55 <@anarchival> aestetix: I totally live-tweeted by cousin sexting my photos of his dick at 3am.
23:55 < aestetix_> ...... why
23:55 < RangerZ> if its a  hermaphrodite, that would be interesting to see, if nothing else, lol
23:55 < aestetix_> If you can't keep it in the pants, keep it in the family?
23:55 < RangerZ> drive through WV much?
23:55 <@anarchival> aestetix: He is currently in North Carolina because he's in the Marines, but originally from Nashville.
23:56 < RangerZ> WV and KY are fucking notorious for inbreeding
23:56 < aestetix_> anarchival: and in that whole time he didn't meet any women, and comes to you instead?
23:56 <@anarchival> Oh! That reminds me of my favorite dirty joke...
23:57 <@anarchival> So Bobby Joe comes home from courting Bobby Sue one night, and sits down next to Pa out on the porch.
23:57 <@Corydon76-work> anarchival: tell him you have a group of gay friends who are interested.  If he'd like, you'd be happy to forward them on to them.  They only want to know if he likes bottoming for other guys.
23:57 <@anarchival> Bobby Joe looks upset, so Pa asks, "Is something the matter, son?"
23:57 <@anarchival> To which Bobby Joe replies, "Yes, Pa. Bobby Sue and I aren't courting anymore."
23:58 <@anarchival> And Pa says, "Well that's a shame Bobby Joe, Bobby Sue seemed like such a nice girl. Did something happen?"
23:58 <@anarchival> And Bobby Joe says, "Well, Pa, tonight Bobby Sue told me she was still a virgin."
23:58 <@anarchival> Pa shakes his head. "Well son," he says, "I can understand why you broke it off with her. If she's not good enough for her own family, she's certainly not good enough for ours."
23:59 <@anarchival> aestetix: He has a girlfriend. Also, he's been hanging out in a lot of strip clubs. I don't know what it's really about.
23:59 < aestetix_> ugh
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