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00:12 <@oddball> Evilpig: I've been told that I have to wait for Naienko to finish watching the last episode of Teen Wolf before I'm allowed to watch it.
00:16 <@Evilpig> lol
00:17 <@Evilpig> you can rewatch the first five minutes repeatedly til she is ready
00:17 <@Evilpig> I would
00:17 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: that video was very good on entertainment, and listing 'bad' things, about our 'time', but very light on listing actual changes he'd make
00:18 <@oddball> heh
00:18 <@Evilpig> gonna try to sleep now.  see if I can't get my schedule back on track.  just found out that one of my private trackers shut down with no notice and no reason given
00:19 <@oddball> suck
00:19 < aestetix> vagina
00:43 <@SuMo_D> Rangerz guess you gotta read the book
00:44 <@SuMo_D> Life Inc was good
00:44 <@SuMo_D> I still have to get a copy of present shock
00:51 < RangerZ> http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2013/12/28/edward-snowden-is-tech-figure-of-the-year-new-tech-economy/4213953/
00:51 < GateKeeper> Title: Whistleblower Edward Snowden is tech person of year (at www.usatoday.com)
00:53 <@oddball> RangerZ: The new tech economy?  Is that the one where no one will touch any tech developed in the US because, chances are, the NSA has installed back doors?
00:54 < RangerZ> i dunno
00:54 < RangerZ> but the 'likely' meaning is that the US economy is 'based on tech'
00:54 < RangerZ> not manf. like it was from 1800s to 1970s
00:57 <@oddball> Well, I would argue that the US has been tech heavy for a long time.  Just the standard definition of tech has shifted.
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07:22 <@Shadow404> heh #freenode-newyears is all ascii art
07:26 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: nothing to really worry about, the tech market has all been shipped off to india by now anyway
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07:46 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:52 <@Bahhumbug> #freenode-newyears will turn into a clone of the trainwreck waste of bits known as #defocus in the next 12 hours or so.
08:11 <@Shadow404> yeah, most likely, was sorta fun for a few minutes, then i got bored, it was like ware on steroids with all the ascii art
08:23 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Happy Yule.  All I can say is that we need more Bo + Tamsyn in the new year.
08:23 <@Dolemite> And on that note, I need to go do a quick walk through in the data center.
08:24 <@Shadow404> if you had to guess, where do you think most freenode users connect from? Europe, Asia, Americas?
08:37 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: you got a home theatre system right?
08:37 <@Dolemite> Depends on your definition of a home theater system
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08:47 <@Shadow404> do you have a sound bar + amplifier, im trying to get some recommendations, but these home theatre forums are irritating with their reviews
08:50 <@Dagmar> "HI I AM OLD AND TONE DEAF BUT THESE SPEKERS ARE TEH BESTEST EVER AND MAKE MY CATS FARTS SOUND LIKE AN ORCHESTRA.  YOU SHOULD BUY THEM BECAUSE ALL MY FRIENDS HAVE 10/10"
08:52 <@Shadow404> bascially what im seeing
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08:53 <@Dolemite> Well I do have an amp and a 3.1 setup - left, right, center, and amp.
08:54 <@Dolemite> I used to have 5.1, but the current setup for the living room doesn't really work well for rear surround
08:54 <@Dolemite> I have an amp that does HDMI switching, so I use it to control the source - cable or HTPC
08:55 <@Dolemite> But I don't use a sound bar.  Not because I hate them or anything, but because I bought my BOSE speakers a decade ago and they still work perfectly.
08:55 <@Shadow404> ah ok
08:55 <@Shadow404> anyone else have a sound bar?
08:55 <@Shadow404> i got an hdmi switch for my media cabinent next to the tv
08:56 <@Shadow404> one hdmi cable going to the tv and 5 other ports ont he switch, and it auto senses when a new hdmi channel is active and switches to it
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11:17 <@Dagmar> Oh lordy
11:17 <@Dagmar> There's probably going to be Entitled Prick Rage
11:18 <@Dagmar> One of my "Extremely Jewish Friends" posted that she was going to Anthem for their NYE shindig.  Apparently she knows one of the DJs
11:18 <@Dagmar> Anthem, in my experience, has been so ridiculously stuck up it's just breathtaking
11:18 <@Dagmar> Like, motherfuckers in sportscoats showing up to a "dance party"
11:19 <@Dagmar> So... I just kind of filled her in on what I don't like about the place, and then notice... Oh.  It shows up on their FB page.
11:19 <@Dagmar> "From what I can tell, the place attracts the kind of entitled douchebag who wears a sportscoat and a gold chain and gets into a fight in the parking lot because someone talked to the girl he was with. I'm used to being one of the cooler people at a dance club, but not the *only* cool person."
11:19 <@Dagmar> I say this because I saw that shit go down both times I was there
11:19 <@Dagmar> lol
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11:25 <@Bahhumbug> Making friends and influencing others again?
11:29  * Shadow404 needs to get Dagmar the book we gave rockit
11:33 <@Dagmar> Ginos really don't like being called Ginos
11:33 <@Dagmar> ...but fuck.  Maybe they should learn to behave like civilized adults
11:34 <@Dagmar> The last time I was out there the douchebags getting into it in the parking lot didn't resort to blows, but one of them noticed I was watching them
11:34 <@Dagmar> Demanded to know what I thought I was looking at
11:34 <@Dagmar> My answer was "A couple of guys that I dearly hope will kill each other, thereby improving the gene pool incrementally."
11:35 <@Dagmar> I was ready to euthanize the fucker myself.
11:36 <@Dagmar> Seriously.  Fucking sportsjacket, tshirt underneath, slacks, gold chain, giant-ass attitude, and was actually on the phone hollering for his boys to come outside and back him up
11:36 <@Dagmar> What.  A.  Shit.
11:36 <@Catonic> dudes.
11:36 <@Dagmar> There would have been no fight there, I simply would have grabbed his windpipe and squeezed until the stupid stopped.
11:36 <@Catonic> how can I do a reverse loop?
11:36 <@Dagmar> A what?
11:37 <@Catonic> you can do:
11:37 <@Catonic> cat $file | while read LINE ; do ; done
11:37 <@Dagmar> Try perling twice and knitting once.
11:37 <@Catonic> I need to keep running the loop as long as the writing device will take it
11:38 <@Catonic> I've got a 1GB file, and a multi-gigabyte tape device
11:38 <@Dagmar> Okay, first don't cat.
11:38 <@Dagmar> while read var; do  some shit; done < fuckingfilename
11:38 <@brimstone> more useless uses of cat!
11:38 <@Dagmar> For the other, sort -r.
11:38 <@brimstone> or rev
11:39 <@Catonic> I need to keep looping some sort of cat or < into dd
11:39 <@Dagmar> ...and YES, you will no longer be able to use the same type of loop
11:39 <@Dagmar> wat
11:39 <@Dagmar> You need to describe what it is you're actually doing.
11:39 <@Dagmar> You're causing an x-y problem
11:40 <@brimstone> (while true; do cat fuckingfilename; done) | dd
11:41 <@Catonic> I like brim's answer.
11:41 <@Catonic> I dd'd 1GB of data from /dev/urandom to "file". Now I wish to dump that as many times as I can to a tape device.
11:41 <@Dagmar> Right,so what the fuck does reversing it have to do with anything
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11:42 <@Dagmar> It's definitely an X-Y problem now.
11:42 <@Catonic> If it stops at 400, I know it's got compression disabled. If it stops at 450... I know it's on.
11:42 <@Dagmar> You had relatively mundane task X in mind, which you couldn't easily solve.  You decided Y would be a good way to solve it, so you asked about Y, but Y is actually *insane*
11:42 <@Catonic> ok.. so scrap that.
11:43 <@Dagmar> I doubt the damn thing is going to have a dictionary of 1 _gigglebyte_ in size.
11:43 <@Catonic> exactly. and hardware compression.
11:43 <@Corydon76-home> Catonic:  why not do something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/tape0 ?
11:43 <@Dagmar> Sereiously, just dump the fucker to disk repeatedly.
11:43 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: It'll compress like a motherfucker is why
11:44 <@Catonic> Corydon76-home: because a friend of mine told me about doing that years ago. He dd'd 88GB of zeros to a DAT-I drive.
11:44 <@Catonic> I want to keep from shoeshining the tape, and I want to see what performance is.
11:44 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: doesn't he want to test whether compression is on or not?
11:44 <@Shadow404> how much is a gigglebyte?
11:44  * Catonic larts Shadow404 
11:45 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: He's trying to avoid it spending most of it's time racing the tape back and forth
11:45 <@Corydon76-home> Catonic: that's why you add a bs and count parameter to the dd, to prevent it from going forever.
11:45 <@Dagmar> Simplest way is really some large, relatively uncompressable writes
11:46 <@Catonic> right... and a 1GB file on a memory file system is fast.
11:46 <@Dagmar> Checking the exit status of dd will keep it from going on foreevr
11:47 <@Catonic> This would probably be better solved in C.
11:47 <@Corydon76-home> Heh
11:47 <@Dagmar> Don't be silly.  Clearly Haskell is the tool for this
11:47 <@Catonic> Then you're not worried about keeping the stdio connected to the right thing.
11:48 <@Corydon76-home> Probably not more silly than what I was doing last night, which was coding a signal safe method of getting 64-bit hexadecimal and decimal integers out to a buffer.
11:49 <@Corydon76-home> Unfortunately, snprintf() is NOT signal-safe
11:50 <@Catonic> I think I'll just try a dd loop
11:50 <@Catonic> and hedge that by the time the next dd starts, the tape won't stop.
11:51 <@Dolemite> Methinks I won't come back today after lunch.  Tada, folks.
11:51 <@Corydon76-home> Catonic: you mean reset to the beginning?
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11:51 <@Catonic> nrst0
11:55 <@Catonic> dd: writing `/dev/nst0': Device or resource busy
11:57 <@Corydon76-home> You know that means some other process has it open, right?
12:01 <@Catonic> every time stdio changes, it stops
12:07 < RangerZ> http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/12/31/attack-on-twitch-streamer-shuts-down-riot-and-ea-servers-attracts-police/
12:07 < GateKeeper> Title: Attack On Twitch Streamer Shuts Down Riot And EA Servers, Attracts Police - Forbes (at www.forbes.com)
12:07 < RangerZ> NotLarry: there are better ways to win at LoL than to 'swat' someone
12:08 <@Catonic> cheated; fed 900 lines of the same file argument to cpio.
12:11 <@Shadow404> just dont let her find out
12:12 <@Dagmar> LoL players are shits?  Nothing new to see here.
12:18 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: Math.  1014 - 978 == 36, not 22.
12:19 <@Dagmar> ...and I wouldn't get too upset about it.  Simple math fuckups don't hold a candle to the epic stupidity going on in this other thread about the Confederate flag I've gotten myself entangled in today.
12:20 <@Dagmar> It's going to be challenging to string together enough invective and obscenity to accurately represent how I feel about *those* people.
12:20 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: seriously: http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034
12:20 <@Dagmar> ...at least without it being just "fuck you ignorant shitbag cousin-molesters"
12:21 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: Mr. Carnegie fails to recognize that a rather large group of people don't need to be influenced--they need to be recycled as useable biomass.
12:21 <@Shadow404> last resort
12:22 <@Dagmar> Yeah we pulled into there about the same time as Jersey Shore started getting non-trivial viewership.
12:24 <@Dagmar> The flag people are a whole different kind of entrenched idiocy
12:24 <@Dagmar> ...particularly the ones who want to turn the entire thing into an issue of racism.
12:25 <@Dagmar> They fail to understand that if you hypersimplify the Civil War to only being about one thing, there's a whole *slew* of lessons to be learned which cannot even be addressed.
12:25 <@Catonic> Dagmar: a fucking men
12:25 <@Dagmar> Most notably, the role of government, and whether or not it should be a vehicle for formalizing and justifying oppression.
12:26 <@Dagmar> Half these motherfuckers are probably the type of people who are screaming that their Big Mac will cost twice as much if the _federal minimum wage_ is raised.
12:27 <@Dagmar> Except the federal minimum wage being so low, there's some incredible parallels to be drawn about whether or not we're presently looking at an incredibly similar situation as with the slavery of the Civil War era, simply expanded to no longer discriminate against race.
12:28 <@Dagmar> That at it's present level, does it actually represent a vehicle for keeping a large group of people helpless and subject to total control by an unelected economic class.
12:29 <@NotLarry> anywhere where people fire off fireworks in nashville?
12:29 <@NotLarry> I assume it is a violation of some ordanance right?
12:29 <@Dagmar> Should it be increased?  Should it be abolished?  These are questions we should be asking, but can't if everyone's wedded to the idea that the Federal government's rule is both absolute and infallible.
12:30 <@brimstone> we talkin' about the NSA again?
12:30 <@Dagmar> Notlarry: Yeah nowhere within the Metro Services area can you do so without a permit, although Metro generally looks the other way on certain nights if you're not trying to cause major mischief
12:31 <@Dagmar> Like, Metro rolled by our fireworks war one July 4th.  They waggled a finger and that was about it, since most of us were actually wearing protective gear.
12:31 <@Dagmar> Otherwise they might have opted to actually cite us for not only shooting off fireworks, but shooting them off *at each other*.
12:32 <@Dagmar> Our biggest risks that night were certain people who elected to try to look down the barrel of the cardboard tube mortar to see why it didn't go off.
12:32 <@Dagmar> I can't remember if it was Zach or Tom who did that, just that they nearly got their forelocks singed off.
12:33 <@Dagmar> To maximize hilarity, the thing waited until someone was actually peering down into it before finally launching.
12:33 <@Dagmar> Yes, the thing you're _never_ supposed to do, one of our people was doing.
12:34 <@NotLarry> I once dropped the wrong size mortar into a tube.  The launcher was for a much larger mortar.  It managed to climb about 8' before exploding.
12:34 <@Dagmar> Whee!
12:34 <@NotLarry> That was a happy accident, now, when I do do fireworks, I always try to find an oversized launcher to do that at least once with:)
12:36 <@Dagmar> Heck why not use a slingshot.
12:36 <@Dagmar> (No wait, don't do that>  Seriously.  Dont' do that)
12:37 <@Dagmar> That's one of those things that's so phenomenally stupid they don't even put it on the warning label... like a warning about never launching rockets out of your ass.
12:37 <@NotLarry> Yeah, throwing the mortar does invoke a fairly close rendition of true randomization.
12:38 <@NotLarry> wtf?  Is this ANT catalogue for realz?
12:40 <@Dagmar> Yeah all a slingshot does is makes sure it's got a longer flaming arc that terminates in someone random
12:41 < RangerZ> NotLarry: you 'could' drop a shell down the now-defunct vandy smoke stack
12:41 < RangerZ> just ned a 6~8" shell
12:42 <@Dagmar> Yeah I think Metro would demand to see a permit for that one
12:42 <@Dagmar> Also I suspect Vandy would take a very dim view of the experiment, since the stack was designed to accommodate relatively laconic smoke, rather than some high-energy explosive device.
12:42 <@Dagmar> s/lcaonic/bucolic/
12:44 <@Shadow404> would be kinda neat experiment
12:44 <@Dagmar> We already have a good idea of the police response time in that area.
12:44 <@Shadow404> like having sex on top of a nuclear reactor.....now...none of us would be that stupid to attempt that......oh wait, too late
12:44 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: could you get away with it?
12:44 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah
12:44 <@Dagmar> That's not even in question.
12:45 <@Dagmar> I'd be more concerned about the liklihood that it would shatter the smoke stack
12:45 <@Shadow404> yeah, creosote on the interior
12:45 <@Dagmar> ...and how many people would be running around screaming about it being an act of "terrurizm"
12:45 <@Shadow404> and its been neglected and all
12:45 <@Shadow404> its also super cold
12:46 <@Dagmar> ...and it was meant to handle smoke, not highly pressurized gases
12:46 <@Shadow404> well, it has an ample escape path
12:46 <@Shadow404> i doubt it would get super compressed by a mortar launching out of it
12:47 <@oddball> Oh, by the way, if you're like me and have Amazon gift cards and live in TN.  Spend them today, or their purchasing power drops by about 10%.
12:47 <@oddball> (as of tomorrow, Amazon will be collecting sales tax for this state)
12:47 <@Dagmar> Shadow404; THe mesh at the top that keeps birds out would likely have a different view of this
12:48 <@Dagmar> "Oh" is an appropriate respnse.
12:48 <@Dagmar> Mortar + smokestack .: asplode
12:48 <@Shadow404> ah, well i didnt know that
12:48 <@Dagmar> heh
12:49 <@Shadow404> could you remove that mesh?
12:49 <@Dagmar> If you wanted to drop the mortar in, you'd probably need to.
12:49 <@Shadow404> why do so many goths live in flordia?
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12:49 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: that was my thought on what you were proposing
12:49 <@Dagmar> I'm absolutely not proposing anything.  Let's be clear about that.
12:50 <@Dagmar> ...aside from perhaps that putting a mortar into that smokestack will not end well.
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12:50 <@Shadow404> too late, i already recorded and sent this chat to metro
12:50 <@oddball> Shadow404: Same reason that there's so many goths in Atlanta... it's hot and the sun burns people down there.  It's not that goths are attracted to those places, so much as they breed a hatred for the sun.
12:50 <@Dagmar> Well, it wouldn't be the first bizarre-ass thing they've been told about me
12:50 <@Dagmar> oddball++
12:50 <@Shadow404> (of course im kidding)
12:50 <@Shadow404> heh
12:51 <@Shadow404> a canadian goth would be interesting
12:52 <@Shadow404> kind of like an emo life coach
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13:04 < RangerZ> Evilpig: you going to be there?
13:04 < RangerZ> -_-
13:13 < aestetix> penis
13:20 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: only if someone fires up skype
13:20 <@Evilpig> which I would suggest someone doing
13:21 <@Dagmar> We'll take it under advisement
13:22 <@Dagmar> Actually, let's just leave that up to the strippers.  They've got to be good for something more than just looking at.
13:22 <@Evilpig> I suspect there will be plenty to discuss friday but i'm sure dagmar will have it covered
13:22  * Dagmar evades the responsibility!  It's super-effective!
13:22 <@Dagmar> Damn.  Whitehouse.gov doesn't let Facebook generate a thumbnail for pages that don't exist.
13:23 <@Evilpig> PyCON code of conduct lands a critical hit!
13:23 <@Dagmar> Oh hell no.  I'll pull  out my twink gear for that one
13:23 <@Evilpig> they are planning on proposing the changes to the bylaws friday
13:24 <@Dagmar> Yep.  We'll see about that.
13:24 <@Dagmar> If what is proposed isn't reasonable, I'll be arguing against them.
13:24 <@Dagmar> Thought control and political correctness are tools of the Nazis.
13:24 <@Evilpig> I've already argued against them pretty heavily but I expect them to come up again
13:25 <@Dagmar> We can take care of the average masher problem with a moderate application of 'Ass-Whip'
13:25 <@Dickie> Hello
13:25 <@Dickie> Story time:
13:26 <@Dagmar> ...and we've gotten by this far without having to explicitly forbid bestiality, triple entrancy accounting, quantum lapidary work, or socialism.
13:26 <@Dagmar> I think we should keep it that way.
13:26 <@Dickie> I used to work at a pet/farm/vet supply warehouse, and we'd get an annual order from some lgbt television network in NYC. They would order a shitload of lubricant and riding crops
13:26 <@Dagmar> Dickie: I can't imagine what they might have had in mind for those.
13:27 <@Dickie> Spaaaaaaankins
13:27 <@Dagmar> You really haven't thought about it that much yet if that's all you're thinking of.
13:27 <@Dickie> You're taking me to my dark place
13:28  * Dickie rolls his sleeves up
13:28 <@Dagmar> I'm the one ordering massive numbers of riding crops and lube.
13:28 <@Dagmar> ...today.
13:30 <@Dagmar> er I'm *not* the one
13:30 <@Dagmar> Jesus.  Talk about a bad time to drop a word
13:31 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Don't worry.  If the suggested verbiage is bad enough, next month I'll propose a clause requiring equal opportunity for 'exotic dancers'.
13:33 <@Dagmar> ...because who's going to argue that we should not foster an environment where nubile young women can't feel free to dance suggestively while wearing minimalist attire??
13:33 <@Dagmar> They shoudln't be made to feel ashamed.  No one has that right.
13:34 <@Evilpig> can anyone get to http://www.hostmonster.com ?
13:34 <@Evilpig> http://intodns.com/hostmonster.com
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13:37 <@Dagmar> Their shit is DOWN
13:38 <@Dagmar> Nameservers unresponsive.
13:38 <@Dagmar> They must be trying to stream a LoL match.
13:41 <@Shadow404> what is LoL, a game?
13:42 <@Dagmar> League of Legends.
13:42 <@Shadow404> whats wrong with riding crops and lube?
13:42 <@Shadow404> ah
13:42 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: Absolutely terrible resale value.
13:42 <@Shadow404> true, its more of a one owner-use thing
13:42 <@Dagmar> They depreciate faster than a Justin Beiber branded Prius.
13:43 <@Shadow404> heh
13:43 <@Shadow404> by the way, powdered j lube is the way to go for a wrestling fundraiser
13:45 <@Dagmar> What percentage of pop rocks do you mix into it?
13:46 <@Shadow404> why?
13:46 <@Dagmar> Because nothing says "abject horror" like the sound and feel of one's flesh burning away
13:46 <@Dagmar> ...of course there's no actual pain since the nerves are all burned up already, but the brain fills in the details.
13:46 <@Shadow404> nooooo, all of the no
13:46 <@Dagmar> rofl
13:47 <@Shadow404> that wouldnt be a good way to raise money for a charity
13:47 <@Dagmar> Sure it would
13:47 <@Shadow404> unless this was a group of sadists
13:47 <@Dagmar> The news articles over the next few days and the social media bloggers would be incredible publicity
13:48 <@Shadow404> yeah, but im not sure how positive those reviews would be toward it
13:48 <@Dagmar> THink of it this way... In the back of everyone's mind, they're worrying that some lunatic will have tampered with some cosmetic product they use and will have added in some hydrochloric of sulfuric acid
13:48 <@Dagmar> This gets that fear out into the open, and lets everyone realize just how silly it is.
13:49 <@Dagmar> It's a mental purging of a nameless fear.
13:49 <@Dagmar> You'd be doing everyone a favor.
13:49 <@Dickie> O_O
13:49 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: in pageants, one of the methods to get rid of a competitor is to mix crushed glass into their foundation.
13:50 <@Shadow404> owww
13:50 <@Evilpig> https://twitter.com/HostMonsterHelp/status/418089628282130432
13:50 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / HostMonsterHelp: FYI were experiencing an ... (at twitter.com)
13:51 <@Corydon76-home> That's half of why each contestant has a "dresser"... to guard the cosmetics and make sure there's no tampering.
13:53 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-home: or clubbing someones knee at a skating championship
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13:55 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, but the benefit of tampering is that if you're not caught in the act of tampering, you probably will get away with it
13:55 <@Dagmar> Those are twisted, reprehensible people.
13:55 <@Dagmar> What I propose is for general entertainment purposes.
13:55 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: have you met many drag queens?
13:55 <@Dagmar> Yes
13:56 <@Corydon76-home> Twisted and reprehensible is the norm.
13:56 <@Dagmar> I didn't say it
13:56 <@Corydon76-home> It's one of the reasons Peaches is once again retired from drag.
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13:59 <@oddball> Ah... the joys of seeing what a kid can do in his garage with a modified toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR7vwRC6SFE
13:59 < GateKeeper> Title: Homemade Death Ray Laser DRONE BOT!!! Remote Controlled!! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:59 <@Dagmar> Fuck yeah
14:00 <@Dagmar> No wait.  It doesn't fly
14:00 <@oddball> And by the looks of it it was damn near plug an play.
14:00 <@Dagmar> ...and it's basically a remote controlled toy.
14:00 <@Mirage> how in the hell did Doctor Who _not_ make the top torrented tv shows list on /.?
14:00 <@Dagmar> It needs to be able to fly, and hunt people.
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14:00 <@oddball> Dagmar: I did say "modified toy."
14:01 <@Dagmar> Mirage: becuase BBC actually tries to make it so people want to watch their channels
14:01 <@Shadow404> Mirage: did pron make it to the top?
14:01 <@Dagmar> No need to pirate it if BBC is part of everyone's standard package
14:02 <@Shadow404> yeah, but every cable package makes sure that bbc is a top tier and therefor expensive
14:02 <@oddball> Yeah... BBCA quickly caught on that they could get people to actually watch the channel instead of torrent stuff if they aired things the same day as the BBC in England.
14:02 <@anarchival> We're getting closer and closer to Real Genius every day.
14:02 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: No, BBCA is regular tier here
14:02 <@oddball> yep
14:03 <@Mirage> oddball: Because of the time shift, I can download and watch Doctor Who before it comes onBBCA
14:03 <@Dagmar> Like, if you got more than the "shitty ten channel package" you have BBCA
14:03 <@anarchival> I usually just spoof my IP and watch it streaming live in the BBC website.
14:03 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: not here, i'd have to pay an extra $50 than basic to get the tier bbca is available on
14:03 <@Shadow404> anarchival: not a bad idea
14:03 <@Dagmar> Call you cable provider and complain
14:04 <@Dagmar> Seriously.
14:04 <@Shadow404> like comcrap will listen?
14:04 <@Dagmar> Ask them why British 'Public Television' is being relegated to a premium-tier package
14:04 <@oddball> Mirage: Yeah... there is that.
14:04 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: We have Comcast here.  It's the francises that decide what channels you have to pay extra for.
14:04 <@Shadow404> yeah
14:05 <@Shadow404> the choices here are limited to att or comcast on my street still
14:05 <@Dagmar> Call AT&T.
14:05 <@Shadow404> so sorta a captive market and i dont have a place to put a dish
14:05 <@Dagmar> The more people who upset them, the more likely they are to change.
14:06 <@Shadow404> meh, i can just wait till its on netflix
14:06 <@Shadow404> or move to britian
14:06 <@Shadow404> the latter is my ideal choice
14:06 <@Mirage> I get pissed about how they'll give you the normal channel, but make you pay extra for the same thing in HD..even if you have an HD package.   When is it supposed to actually occur that they stop cable companies providing non-HD channels?  All the broadcast switched a few years ago.
14:07 <@Dagmar> Never.
14:07 <@Dagmar> They'll have to mandate technical details about encoding first.
14:07 <@Dagmar> You know how bad Comcast was about broadcasting SD things upscaled to 1080
14:08 <@Dagmar> I called Comcast and cussed at them every time they resampled a SciFi show down to nearly goddamn SD levels of quality
14:08 <@Dagmar> Pardon me.... Syfy
14:08 <@Dagmar> If a one-hour program at 1080 only takes up 3Gb of space, Comcast are dicks.
14:10 <@Shadow404> woot woot, going home at 2pm
14:12 <@Evilpig> suck it.  i'm home in bed alrady
14:12 <@Evilpig> already*
14:12 <@Shadow404> screw you porky
14:12 <@Evilpig> thinking about going to see a movie here shortly
14:20 <@Dagmar> http://imgur.com/gallery/8cVhPFo
14:20 < GateKeeper> Title: Yet another unrealistic standard of beauty for women - Imgur (at imgur.com)
14:25 <@Evilpig> lol
14:25 <@Dagmar> That URL is tewtelly better because of the bot
14:27 <@Evilpig> holy balls.  who wants a seizure?  https://31.media.tumblr.com/71b70e22f46173397595788600463aae/tumblr_mxkbf1lSzg1qhcd6po1_500.gif
14:29 <@brimstone> one seizure please!
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14:31 <@anarchival> I saw this story and immediately thought of you guys: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/30/sex-doll-launched-into-space_n_4520493.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news&ir=Weird+News
14:32 < GateKeeper> Title: First Sex Doll Launched Into Space And Floats Until She Blows.. Up (at www.huffingtonpost.com)
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16:01 <@NotLarry> rightfully so
16:02 <@Corydon76-home> The story is inconsistent.  Early on, it says the balloon was filled with hydrogen, then later it says the balloon was filled with helium.  Which is it?
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16:05 <@NotLarry> Most likely it is fiction
16:06 <@NotLarry> mm, or friction
16:06 <@NotLarry> this is not going to plan.
16:07 <@NotLarry> Met the notwife 28 years ago today.  Proposed to her after talking to her for a couple of hours.
16:07 <@NotLarry> Yesterday was 21 years married.
16:07 <@Corydon76-home> I'm also curious to know what else was in the payload.  Probably a GPS device, because it's otherwise difficult to know the exact trajectory of a balloon without that
16:08 <@Corydon76-home> not to mention altitude
16:09 <@Corydon76-home> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G17RdYm8x2Q
16:09 < GateKeeper> Title: First sex doll launched into space reaches new heights, then blows over Nevada - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:10 <@Dagmar> I'm figuring it was on news-hound.
16:11 <@Corydon76-home> Apparently, they chose not to outfit it with a parachute
16:12 <@Dagmar> Why not?  You only need one of those if you intend to try that again.
16:12 <@Dagmar> ""People get angry at Glass. They get angry at you for wearing Glass. They talk about you openly. It inspires the most aggressive of passive aggression"
16:12 <@Dagmar> *Fuck yeah* get me a pair
16:12 <@Dagmar> I'll merrily take pictures of me flippinng off people
16:12 <@Corydon76-home> Well, or if you want the payload (camera, etc) you want to retrieve in one piece
16:13 <@Dagmar> I would imagine that the drag of a vinyl fuck doll would keep it from reaching excessive velocities
16:13 <@Corydon76-home> I'm guessing the video was streamed
16:13 <@Dagmar> It's not like they were recording the video to floppy disk or something
16:13 <@Corydon76-home> Watch the video.  in the fall, the vinyl doll was torn apart by the winds
16:14 <@Corydon76-home> In the TABEL launch I helped with, it used a camera taking photos at intervals, with flash memory storage
16:14 <@Dagmar> Keep in mind they're not devices people are going to make a warranty claim on just because it wasn't very durable
16:15 <@Dagmar> There's very little incentive for them to be made to last
16:15 <@Corydon76-home> and the payload survived multiple launches and retrievals
16:15 <@Dagmar> Also, very goddamn cold.  Vinyl doesn't do cold well.
16:16 <@Dagmar> I imagine a GoPro camera could largely survive at least one drop like that without a ballon attached
16:16 <@Dagmar> Yep.  Looks like hte main issue was brittleness brought on by sub-freezing temps
16:17 <@Dagmar> This also highlights the difference between the phrase "Tested on children" and the phrase "Tested satisfactorily on children"
16:21 <@anarchival> This conversation is everything I hoped it would be.
16:22 <@Dagmar> Well, now the company is saying they've tested the doll in space.
16:23 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure most customers would find the results achieved under those conditions to be unacceptable for their purposes.
16:23 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: I knew a girl like that once
16:23 <@NotLarry> " brittleness brought on by sub-freezing temps"
16:24 <@Dagmar> Oh come on.  Everyone knows a few touchy, frigid, bitches.
16:25 <@NotLarry> Yeah, but sex takes too long
16:25 <@NotLarry> It is hard enough typing in irc witho
16:27 <@anarchival> I dunno, when I imagine using a sex doll in space, I imagine it on a space station more than in a high-altitude free fall, but maybe there's some dude who could pull that off...
16:28 <@anarchival> This is a silly discussion, anyway. By the time we're technologically advanced enough to worry about satisfying sexual needs in space, there will be proper sexbots.
16:29 <@Dickie> I'm getting impatient
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16:29 <@anarchival> Well, you could build one. And retire a billionaire.
16:29 <@anarchival> (conservatively)
16:31 <@Dickie> Or die from exhaustion
16:31 <@Dickie> (most probable)
16:32 <@Dagmar> Someone doesn't pay attention.
16:32 <@Dagmar> We have astronauts of both sexes now.
16:32 <@Dickie> And
16:32 <@Dagmar> ...and the first mission that had both sexes on it had some "off-camera time"
16:33 <@brimstone> for science
16:34 <@Dagmar> Of course.
16:34 <@anarchival> I think of sex between humans as different than sex between humans and inanimate objects.
16:34 <@Dickie> You can program inanimate objects to enjoy it
16:34 <@Dagmar> Also, the kind of person who becomes a goddamn astronaut does not settle for merely being a member of "the Mile-High Club"
16:35 <@Dagmar> If they were into that, they'd just be a pilot for United Airlines.
16:36 <@anarchival> That's true. Maybe it's like most of the technology to come out of NASA: invented for astronauts, but more useful for those of us on Earth.
16:36 <@Dickie> I see a little boy, sitting in front of his family's radio
16:36 <@Dickie> playing with a model rocket
16:36 <@Dickie> and there's a little thought bubble that appears
16:36 <@Dickie> and in it, he's banging a chick on the space station
16:36 <@Dickie> Because really, that's what it's all about
16:36 <@Dagmar> If the kid if 12, probably.
16:37 <@Dagmar> You know how boys are between 12 and about 25.
16:37 <@Dagmar> Every 20-40 seconds.
16:37 <@Dickie> I am 28
16:37 <@Dagmar> Might just be for an instant, but the thought is there.
16:37 <@Dickie> I'm only getting worse
16:37 <@Dagmar> Biology, more persistant than the worst jewish mother anywhere.
16:37 <@Dickie> isn't that right, brimstone?
16:37 <@anarchival> That's it. I'm patenting a sexbot and manufacturing male models. You straight dudes are just going to have to settle for the real thing.
16:38  * brimstone thrusts into the air
16:38 <@Dickie> please answer the question in the form of a nekkid lady
16:38 <@Dickie> I'll show you
16:39  * Dagmar prepares to not click.
16:39 <@Dagmar> They're all a saturated market, with enough volatlity that there's a difference of 1-3 cents every 24 hours
16:39 <@Dagmar> wrong channel, and I don't even care enough to up-arrow it
16:40 <@brimstone> bitcoins
16:40 <@Dagmar> Actually, Steam cards.
16:41 <@Dagmar> People were getting stressed about whether they should list them for the going rate or slightly under
16:41 <@Dagmar> I'm like "doesn't fucking matter"
16:41 <@Dagmar> The going rates were eighteen cents for all four cards I sold last night.
16:41 <@Dagmar> They all sold.
16:41 <@Dagmar> It's still 18c.
16:41 <@anarchival> In my imagination, Dagmar has an entire screen filed with FOREX charts on the price volatility of Steam cards.
16:42 <@Dagmar> Jesus christ no
16:42 <@Dickie> I sold one to buy another and then crafted that badge
16:43 <@Dagmar> Mainly I was feeling too lazy to bother clicking my way into putting $5 into my Steam account.
16:43 <@Dickie> Now I have a $0.14 credit
16:43 <@Dickie> weeee
16:43 <@Dagmar> Dickie: so keep voting until you get another duplicate you can selll, and then you can easily buy one.
16:45 <@Dickie> I am voting
16:45 <@Dickie> and gifting
16:45 <@Dagmar> gifting?
16:45 <@Dagmar> Oh
16:46 <@anarchival> Speaking of Steam, Farming Simulator 2013 Titanium Edition is on sale today. !!
16:46 <@Dagmar> Doesn't happen too much over here.  Most of the people I know of just buy the shit they want
16:46 <@Dickie> You earn something for every $10 you gift out
16:46 <@Dickie> I bought some shit for family and a few friends
16:46 <@Dagmar> Yeah but if I give someone that it'll be more than $10 worth of angry for them having their time wasted
16:46 <@Dickie> Usually scan their wishlists for whatever's under $5
16:46 <@Dagmar> My brother is a goddamn xbox worshipper
16:47 <@Dagmar> ...otherwise I'd pelt him with shit during Steam sales.
16:47 <@Dickie> I was hoping they'd put that ducktales remake on the vote sale
16:47 <@Dagmar> It would be like "here, you should try this thing that was just on discount for $4! *whack*"
16:47 <@Dickie> but noooo
16:47 <@Dickie> they picked that shitty another world game
16:47 <@Dagmar> Well, they put it to a vote, but people are stupid in that age group
16:47 <@Dagmar> I remember the first Another World.
16:47 <@Dickie> Further proving my theory that I am smart and everyone else is stupid
16:47 <@Dagmar> It did not need a remake.
16:49 <@anarchival> I would actually play Planetary Annihilation, but I can't even afford it on sale at the moment.
16:49 <@Dickie> I'll play it 10 years after everyone else has
16:49 <@anarchival> Also I should be working not playing games. Bad, Amber. Bad!
16:49 <@Dickie> When it's a nickel
16:50 <@Dickie> or nickle
16:50 <@Dickie> I dunno
16:50 <@Dickie> "words"
17:36 <@SuMo_D> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/30/we-need-to-talk-about-ted
17:36 < GateKeeper> Title: We need to talk about TED | Benjamin Bratton | Comment is free | theguardian.com (at www.theguardian.com)
17:36 <@SuMo_D> So glad somebody said this...
17:36 < aestetix> vagina
17:37 <@SuMo_D> yea! vag
17:37 <@SuMo_D> aestetix I think you'd like that article
17:45 <@NotLarry> I
17:45 <@NotLarry> I would play the farming simulator.  The train simulator as well.
17:45 <@NotLarry> Just throwing that out there
17:45 <@brimstone> euro truck?
17:54 <@anarchival> Me too, Larry.
17:54 <@anarchival> But I refuse to run Windows. REFUSE.
17:55 <@anarchival> If I had to choose between TEDXNashville and Nashville 2600, I chose Nashville 2600!
17:55 <@anarchival> You guys probably don't get that joke yet, but I assure you it's hilarious.
17:58 <@anarchival> G'Kar is giving his "though it takes a thousand years" speech. Tears.
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18:17 <@Dagmar> Yeah for awhile I had the TED app on my Xoom tablet.
18:18 <@Dagmar> I generally watched some talk or other every other day.
18:18 <@Dagmar> ...and then the quacks started showing up.
18:18 < aestetix> HAPPY NEW YEAR
18:18 <@Dagmar> People who, without a doubt, were *incredibly* full of shit.
18:18 <@Dagmar> That killed my interest in it altogether.
18:18 <@Dagmar> I'm glad they brought the hammer down on that.
18:42 <@Dickie> I've heard some pretty critical reviews of TED recently
18:44 <@anarchival> Yeah, they really hurt their brand when they started letting in the pseudoscience.
18:58 <@Dagmar> Some of the "economists" were no better than lunatics, as well.
18:58 <@Dagmar> The last straw for me was a guy who sounded like a goddamn infomercial.
19:03 <@anarchival> There was a doctor at TEDXNashville advertising his new spinal surgery for weight loss.
19:03 <@anarchival> That's a local event, of course, but it seemed a little shady, or at least excessive.
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19:07 <@Dagmar> You'd almost think that for tonight the serverops would have a bot doing CTCP TIME on everyone's client and walloping just the relevant people
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19:22 <@anarchival> I've reached the point where I want to deploy a Heroku app just to show it who's boss.
19:23 <@anarchival> Or more accurately, I want to deploy a Rails app on Heroku just to show it who's boss.
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20:23 <@anarchival> I just missed a call from weev. :(
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20:25 <@Bahhumbug> And this is a bad thing... how?
20:28 <@anarchival> I'd like to talk to him. That would have made my NYE. And I was in the bloody shower. Sigh.
20:28 <@anarchival> Hopefully he'll call back, but he might give up thinking I've gone out.
20:55  * Bahhumbug shrugs
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21:59 <@Evilpig> but then the joke's on him cause you're still at home in your PJs?
22:22 <@anarchival> Actually the joke's on me because I'm sitting at home in my PJs on NYE and I don't even get to talk dirty to weev.
22:24 <@anarchival> Then again, he's in prison. Yes, you're right. Joke's on him.
22:27 <@Evilpig> if it helps you any you're still in the shower in my mind.
22:27 <@anarchival> Thanks, Evilpig. It's good to be noticed. :P
22:28 <@Evilpig> just doing my part
22:40 <@Evilpig> this show 1600 penn might be the worst piece of crap on tv today
23:14 <@anarchival> Just talked to weev. *happy dance*
23:17 <@anarchival> He's going to put Yukihiro Matsumoto in an oven for me.
23:31 < RangerZ> Evilpig: here is a really nice mini-ITX case with lots of airflow http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-Stacker-915F/dp/B00FB45UQ4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1388512088&sr=8-2&keywords=haf+stacker
23:32 < RangerZ> but whats nice is... its part of this 'stacker' system http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-Stacker-935/dp/B00FB45UNC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1388512088&sr=8-4&keywords=haf+stacker so you could combine it with a full tower if you want to make it a renderer next to your main system or w/e
23:38 <@anarchival> I just realized I will probably never have sex with weev. That makes me sad.
23:39 <@anarchival> I should probably be less sober, sobriety at this time of night at this time of year is always a terrible idea.
23:39 <@brimstone> wtf is a weev?
23:39 <@anarchival> It's a valid question, and one to which I do not have an answer.
23:40 <@brimstone> Merster, is that you?
23:42 < RangerZ> and 'probably' ?
23:42 <@anarchival> Ah, rum. That's better.
23:43 <@anarchival> Also tonight I officially cleaved my Twitter persona into twain, so this is morphine for the pain.
23:49 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: that's a nice case and all but it doesn't come with a power supply and the documentation on it isn't all tha tclear on ones that would work with it
23:49 <@Evilpig> it really is sweet for expanding a midtower, but doesn't look all that sweet for a mini-itx despite its name
23:49 <@Bahhumbug> brimstone: weev is one Andrew Auernheimer; a decidedly unpleasant nitwit that got what he has long had coming.
23:50 <@Bahhumbug> (Yeah, that statement will likely irritate people.  I'm sorry in advance for not caring.)
23:50 <@anarchival> He's in prison for violating the CFAA; for some reason the hackers he trolled still cling to their schadenfreude.
23:51 <@anarchival> He can also be very intelligent and funny and sweet, but then my terrible taste in men is well established.
23:52 < RangerZ> Evilpig: "Standard ATX PSU Front / Bottom Mounted"
23:52 < RangerZ> right on their site
23:53 < RangerZ> it uses an internal extension cable, to allow you to put the PSU in the front of the unit, thereby allowing normal PSUs
23:53 < RangerZ> http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=10098
23:53 < GateKeeper> Title: HAF Stacker 915F - Cooler Master (at www.coolermaster-usa.com)
23:53 <@anarchival> It's been a long time since I actually built a computer, but that is a nice case.
23:55 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: I saw that but it really doesn't register. power supplies aren't built to be installed like that.  
23:55 <@Evilpig> they could put at least one picture up showing a psu installed.
23:55 <@anarchival> Just build it the way the bitcoin miners do: suspended in milk crates.
23:57 < RangerZ> the PSU intake is on the bottom, and exhaust out the front
23:58 < RangerZ> http://benchmarkreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/cooler_master_stacker_915f_mounted_drives.jpg
23:58 <@Evilpig> the power cord of that would be haning out the front
23:58 < RangerZ> there is an internal extension
23:58 < RangerZ> that loops back to the back
23:58 <@Evilpig> power cords aren't flush...
23:59 <@Evilpig> thge only way that would work in the front would be if that extension was some crazy flat cable that fit inside the front grill and went to the back
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