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01:28 <@NotLarry> You want the good news or the bad news first?
01:39 < RangerZ> bad news?
01:43 <@NotLarry> Started to drive away from the house tonight and realized I had forgotten to plug the headlight in while I had the farring off of the bike today
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05:57 < RangerZ> Dagmar's Tree http://cs7003.vk.me/c540107/v540107818/bd24/UPYTgyYRq80.jpg
05:57 < RangerZ> SFW
06:21 <@NotLarry> oh fuck, I feel a migraine coming on
06:24 <@Evilpig> well I have a sore throat now cause I was apparently snoring .  not cool
06:25 <@NotLarry> oh fuck me, and the packet I thought was a migraine pill in my drawer is a damn hand sanitisedr.  who the fuck thagouth that wneeded to be in my desk
06:29 < RangerZ> NotLarry: well... you never know when a univ. vice president will walk by, and you get the urge to wash your junk
06:29 < RangerZ> well... thats what your manager is afraid of
06:30 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.angryduck.com/pics/goatse-humor.htm
06:30 < GateKeeper> Title: goatse humor (at www.angryduck.com)
06:30 <@NotLarry> cant se bbl
06:32 < RangerZ> so.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147247 vs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147192
06:34 < RangerZ> Otherwise pretty much the same
06:34 < RangerZ> 4KB Random Write  Up to 90,000 IOPS   vs   Up to 35,000 IOPS
06:34 < RangerZ> for main OS
06:34 < RangerZ> going from HDD to SSD
06:40 < RangerZ> does random write speed really matter that much for windows boot drive?
07:21 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: woot, much faster
07:21 <@Shadow404> i thought the next season was already airing? she said
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07:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:26 <@Shadow404> whats up Dole_Kitty?
07:27 <@Dolemite> me
07:29 <@Shadow404> how far up are you?
07:33 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: she clearly suggested that without any research
07:33 <@Evilpig> The series has been renewed for a fourth season, to air in 2014.
07:33 <@Evilpig> Exact return date Unknown/TBA.
07:33 <@Evilpig> 4x01 -- TBA
07:33 <@Shadow404> ah, ok....clearly thats the case
07:34 <@Evilpig> so when you go home, beat her
07:34 <@Shadow404> with the exception of one chick, have you met the chicks ive dated?
07:34 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: will do, were going to a party tonight, so ill have the toys handy for that task
07:43 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Which show is this that you're talking about?
07:52 <@Shadow404> Game of thrones
07:57 <@Dolemite> oh
07:57 <@Shadow404> she finished all the available episodes in less then a week
07:58 <@Dolemite> It typically comes back in April timeframe
07:59 <@Dolemite> Who?  Emilia Clark?
07:59 <@Shadow404> Huh?
07:59 <@Dolemite> Who is the 'she' that you are referring to?
08:00 <@Dolemite> Oh, you are talking about someone binge watching GoT
08:00 <@Dolemite> Emilia Clark is the actress that plays Daenarys Targaryan
08:00 <@Shadow404> ah....yeah the gf
08:00 <@Shadow404> is binge watching
08:01 <@Dolemite> They kind of skipped well into the future with her storyline and will either have to backtrack/make up filler for her, or leave her out of several episodes in Season 4
08:02 <@Shadow404> ah,ok
08:02 <@Shadow404> the massacre was mesed up
08:02 <@Shadow404> stab the baby maker, geez that was gruesome
08:03 <@Dolemite> The Red Wedding was indeed
08:11 <@Dolemite> It makes you wonder how much it will change the siege at Riverrun, since in the book, Robb Stark's wife wasn't at the Red Wedding
08:14 <@Dolemite> heh, they've cast the girl from 'The Ring' as a child of the forest for Season 4
08:15 <@Dolemite> So that means they are likely going to sneak just a bit into Book 4's story
08:17 <@Dolemite> oh, my, and they've also cast The Last Greenseer
08:17 <@Dolemite> That's definitely getting into Book 4
08:17 <@Dolemite> Then again, these could be castings for the final episode of Season 4
08:21 <@Shadow404> ok, just emailed my contact in BT or in the U.K. to see if they have any remote jobs available still
08:22 <@Shadow404> but of course: OOO Message -  I am now on annual leave until Monday 6th January 2014
08:55 <@Dolemite> ok, gotta head upstairs....   logging off for a bit
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09:19 < aestetix> vagina
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12:53 <@Evilpig> I should get up and get some lunch made then figure out how to get over to the starland
12:59 < klixa> Evilpig what's starland?
13:02 <@Evilpig> local music venue
13:02 <@Evilpig> starland ballroom
13:03 < nachoguy1> vocal band
13:04 < klixa> ok
13:11 <@Bahhumbug> Ok, can someone provide me with an acceptable reasono that I am not permitted to cleanse the human race of the stupid?  Ie.  culling the herd.
13:12 <@oddball> someone's got to pick up the trash?
13:12 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah... the people I am thinking of are not even useful for that.
13:13  * klixa mumbles something about everyone being stupid and that humans would end up exstinct...
13:13 <@oddball> There's that.
13:13 <@Bahhumbug> I don't see that as a major problem, personally.
13:13 <@Bahhumbug> Let the roaches have the planet back.
13:13 < klixa> no f*** them... tho it's better than the chimps having the planet... i despise chimps :|
13:14 <@Bahhumbug> You prefer roaches over chimps?
13:14 < klixa> well...I guess it depends on the context... a roach chasing me is less dangerous than a baby and face-eating chimp chasing me
13:15 < klixa> but roaches are icky
13:15 <@Shadow404> they are also a good source of protien and crunchy
13:15 <@Shadow404> though i do prefer them fried in peanut oil and chili sauce first
13:15 <@Bahhumbug> You're a good source of protein, but that doesn't mean I want to consume you.
13:15 <@Shadow404> to get rid of that gooey center
13:16 <@Shadow404> if you ever had to survive in an emergency situation, you would think twice about that Bahhumbug
13:16 < klixa> bleh, Donner Party...lol
13:16 <@Shadow404> this was part of a survival training class in boy scouts
13:17 <@Bahhumbug> They taught you how to eat people?
13:17 < klixa> I can't drive through the Sierra Nevadas without thinking about cannibalism
13:17 <@Shadow404> Bahhumbug: roaches, follow along
13:18 <@Bahhumbug> I would rather die slowly from starvation than consume anything with more than 4 legs.
13:18 <@Shadow404> oh, so i also watched how to skin a bunny by watching a documentary on the british commandoes
13:19 < klixa> Bahhumbug: as much as i HATE creepy crawlies... i still woudl rather not die
13:19 <@Shadow404> pretty messed up, but this is a survival thing they had to know
13:19 <@Evilpig> Bahhumbug: there is only one reason you need.  you aren't into gay prison sex.
13:19 < klixa> i hope they killed it first
13:20 <@Evilpig> if that changes, feel free to cleanse
13:20 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: I'm confident that I would get away without prison time.
13:20 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not saying I would get away scott-free, only that I wouldn't serve any time.
13:22 <@Evilpig> okay i'm done with managing media time to get up and make something to eat
13:24 <@Bahhumbug> Hmm...  Food sounds good.
13:24 <@Evilpig> I've got sausage and kraut in there and stuff to make biscuits and gravy
13:28 <@Shadow404> nazi
13:28  * Shadow404 throws the sausage and kraut at Evilpig's eye
13:29 <@Mirage> Shadow404: you're going to make Corydon76-home jealous
13:31 <@Shadow404> i know, right, hes probably having fun under his desk playing soccer as we speak
13:32 <@Mirage> Has anyone attempted to get the Citrix ICAClient installed on linux?
13:37 <@Dagmar> RUN.
13:38 <@Dagmar> IIRC you're better off not using the client and trying to get OpenVPN or FreeS/WAN talking to it
13:39 <@Mirage> Dagmar: My fav bit so far is that the x86_64 install still uses 32-bit everything.
13:39 <@Dagmar> It's been so long I can't be sure about that
13:41 <@Mirage> Dagmar: One of our clients requires Citrix to access all our applications. The managers here are wanting to get a linux VM configuration done that everyone can use to go through our VPN instead of using our normal RDP solution the customer provided.
13:43 <@Dagmar> Oh.  In that case i'd just build the fucker on whatever distro Citrix made packages for that has the best automatic updates for the OS
13:45 <@brimstone> a vm of rhel 4 32bit
13:46 <@Bahhumbug> Heh
13:47 <@Bahhumbug> Which is fine if you want to pay for ridiculous rates for the extended lifetime entitlements for el4 :)
13:47 <@Dagmar> Fuck bothering.  Lock the damn thing down, make most of the file system read-only, treat it like an appliance.
13:47 <@Dagmar> Walk away knowing at the end of the contract, it's someone else's problem
13:48 <@Dagmar> Here's someone I'd like to lash repeatedly
13:48 <@Dagmar> http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/4257526554.html
13:48 < GateKeeper> Title: Yamaha PW50 2003 ages 4 and up (at nashville.craigslist.org)
13:48 <@Dagmar> Not only no, but FUCK NO you don't put a goddamn 4-year-old on a motorbike of any size
13:51 <@Mirage> Shadow404: might need a new bike.  He should be able to pass for 4+
13:51 <@Mirage> Damn auto-complete 'colon' tagging...
13:52 <@Dagmar> Still, WTF.
13:52 <@Shadow404> ah, enluish?
13:52 <@Dagmar> A 4-year old can't reliably run through the house without smacking a doorframe
13:52 <@Dagmar> Putting them on a motorcross bike should be considered reckless endangerment
13:52 <@Dagmar> Can a 4-year old even manage to reach the damn footpegs?
13:53 <@Shadow404> uh...i rode a 50cc when i was 5
13:53 <@Mirage> Dagmar: We need more Darwin back in our culture.  Cull the assholes and 'special' ones out early.
13:53 <@Shadow404> albeit, barely any power at all, as it was a broken down 50cc, more like 30cc
13:53 <@Mirage> It still kills me that some people with teens won't "let" them use a lawnmower because they might hurt themselves.
13:53 <@Shadow404> and then a tuned 80cc when i was 9
13:54 <@Shadow404> and 250 cc when i was 12 and could reeach the pegs
13:54 <@Dagmar> Yes, well, you're a Monty Hall case now
13:54 <@Shadow404> err
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13:54 <@Dagmar> If you weren't lucky/skilled enough to not murder yourself on it, you wouldn't be here talking about it
13:54  * Shadow404 secretly googles that reference
13:54 <@Mirage> Shhh...he;s back
13:54 <@Shadow404> yeah, quit saying that stuff now
13:54 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: Specifically 'the Monty Hall Problem'
13:55 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: Check this out for incredible levels of irresponsible:
13:55 <@Mirage> Dolemite: you missed some sausage tossing between Evilpig and Shadow404 a few minutes ago
13:55 <@Dagmar> http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/4257526554.html
13:55 < GateKeeper> Title: Yamaha PW50 2003 ages 4 and up (at nashville.craigslist.org)
13:55 <@Shadow404> Because of his work on Let's Make a Deal, Hall's name is used in a probability puzzle known as the "Monty Hall problem", which examines the counter-intuitive effect of switching one's choice of doors, one of which hides a prize, if "Monty" reveals an unwanted item behind a door the player did not choose. Hall himself gave an explanation of the solution to that problem in an interview with The New York Times reporter John Tierney in 1991.[12] In the article
13:55 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Nah, I prefer hearing it, too.  Makes me think my life is less boring.  hehe.
13:55 <@Shadow404> im still confused
13:56 <@Shadow404> so the fact i survived is more me wining darwin than a monty hall refernce which is more structured
13:56 <@Shadow404> just saying
13:56 <@Dolemite> Um, no.  I prefer to see my kids reach their teenage years.  I'll pass on the mini bike.
13:57 <@Dagmar> Dude, that's not a minibike
13:58 <@Mirage> Shadow404: 3 choices..someone pics one..then is show what one of the choices would have been.  The problem is the probability that the person will want to change their mind on their selection after seeing the result of one of the options.
13:58 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: The thing that confuses people is that they don't realize that the fact that they've already made a choice is what's affected the outcome from the "obvious" 50% changce
13:59 <@Dagmar> Wait, maybe it *is* a minibike
13:59 <@Dagmar> The picture makes it hard to tell.  Yamaha's sayinig an 19.1 inch seat height
13:59 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: im stil here
13:59 <@Mirage> Speaking of chance and (im)probability... Dolemite, did I ever tell you that I finally got one of those damn Emerald Whelps?
14:00 <@Shadow404> and i moved up to 750 and now 1100cc
14:00 <@Shadow404> though ive had some close calls
14:00 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: yes.  Had it been a bad decision in your case, you wouldn't be here to talk about it
14:00 <@Dolemite> Mirage: After what, 5,000,000 kills?
14:00 <@Dagmar> The average kid?  Fuck no
14:01 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: yeah, good point
14:01 <@Mirage> Dolemite: probably something like 5-6k.  I lost the counter settings when cataclysm came out.  I finally got it in the new spawn area after like 3 more weeks of farming.
14:02 <@Dagmar> Mirage: FINALLY FUCKIN' HOUSING
14:02 <@Dagmar> I just had to say that
14:03 <@Mirage> ?
14:03 <@Dagmar> I have actually not logged in in over two months, except of course I had to get my Winter Veil presents
14:03 <@Dagmar> Mirage: They're adding player & guild housing in the next xpac
14:03 <@Dagmar> That's literally the only thing I know about it, other than possibly it's called 'WOD'
14:03 <@Dagmar> Something of Draenor
14:03 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I cancelled awhile back and haven't been following it.
14:04 <@Dagmar> It's about goddamn time they let us have a place to stash all those knickknacks that isn't bloody void storage
14:04 <@Mirage> World of Re-brand and re-skin old shit, then call it new...plus..now higher max level and less thought required to play!
14:05 <@Mirage> Yes..I got tired of most stuff in the past couple expansions being reguritated old stuff with a twist.
14:07 <@Mirage> They need to get back to vanilla a bit more.  Screw making everything easier..make people work for the shit.  And the schism in armor once you get high up is just insane.  Tanks walking around with ~500k health...wtf
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14:12 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I'm willing to bet that there's 1 guild house and 1 player house that is shared by everyone..just instanced separately.
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14:15 <@oddball> Another thing to miss about City of Heroes: super group bases.  Now, if only they could have gotten the invasion mechanics to work right...
14:16 <@Mirage> SWG had decently working faction bases..most of the time.
14:17 <@oddball> Of course, if I could have just one thing from CoH that other people have ignored, it would be the ability to friend accounts, not just characters.
14:21 <@Mirage> oddball: Blizzard added that
14:23 <@oddball> good!
14:25 <@Shadow404> i would also add a feature where it does ruin relationships in RL
14:26 <@Shadow404> *doesn't
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14:42 <@Dagmar> That would be a needless feature for the client.
14:42 <@Dagmar> Might as well build in a C compiler while you're at it, since it would be equally appropriate.
14:54 <@oddball> I know a few board games that could use that feature.
15:20 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1tzURKYFNs
15:20 < GateKeeper> Title: Miley Cyrus - Adore You - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:23 <@Mirage> Evilpig: Will I want to gouge my eyes out or take a 4-hour long shower if I watch that?
15:25 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Mirage:  http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2013/12/27/raspberry-pi-power-cat-feeder-tutorial-piday-raspberrypi-raspberry_pi/
15:30 <@Evilpig> Mirage: depends.  how do you feel about a nearly naked crazy girl engaging in self pleasure to a background of somethign that might be music
15:31 <@Dolemite> Are you sure it's a girl?
15:31 <@Evilpig> it started as one
15:35 <@Dolemite> Yeah.  Qty of items received from Ingress hacks is increased through New Year's Day.  They ain't kidding.
15:35 <@Dolemite> 15 items on that last hack
15:36 <@Mirage> Dolemite: I have a blue L7 portal that is barely out of range outside the building..drives me crazy.
15:41 <@Dolemite> Does SELinux have the ability to control whether or not a program can open sockets?
15:42 <@brimstone> Dolemite: yes, i think so
15:42 <@Dolemite> Trying to help someone get ESX polling working in opendcim...   everything looks correct, and they can run snmpwalk from the command line and get the data, but when they try from the PHP scripts, they get empty result sets
15:43 <@Dolemite> So at this point I'm grasping at straws
15:43 <@brimstone> sounds like selinux isn't letting the http user connect out
15:43 <@brimstone> i've seen that before
15:43 <@Dolemite> But you would think that it would return a Timeout error in that case
15:44 <@Mirage> setsebool -P http_can_network_connect=1 (i think)
15:44 <@brimstone> but timeout is different than Permission denied
15:46 <@Mirage> er, setsebool -P httpd_can_network_connect=1
15:46 <@Mirage> Missed the "d"
15:48 <@Evilpig> guess I better get up and get ready
15:48 <@Dolemite> The user just replied that they are in Permissive mode, so that shouldn't be it
15:48 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Don't forget the lube this time
15:49 <@Evilpig> I just need to remember to leave my knife here
15:49 <@Mirage> Dolemite: I've seen selinux block things even in permissive..which never made much sense to me.
15:50 <@Dagmar> That only affected some of the older RHEL kernels
15:50 <@Dagmar> I haven't seen it manifest since last year's set of updates
15:50 <@Dagmar> ...but I will support that it was, in fact, happening, and was OBNOXIOUS AS FUCK as bugs go.
15:51 <@Dagmar> ...but I think the issue here is that the PHP script isn't operating in the context of apache, but in some other context
15:52 <@Dagmar> Quick & Dirty check would be to just temporarily disable selinux entirely
15:52 <@Dagmar> ...but since it's already appparently off and the blocks-your-shit-anyway bug was one that happened only intermittently and not all the time, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they've got some dementing PHP setting in place
15:54 <@Dagmar> Unrelated -> http://i.imgur.com/OaKgJiq.png
15:54 <@Dagmar> Yahoo's gotten kinda fuckin' strict
15:55 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: they still got plenty of pron groups
15:55 <@brimstone> exactly 32 characters?
15:56 <@Dolemite> ok, time to head home.  Have fun, kiddos!
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15:56 <@Dagmar> Note that it's *refusing that password* despite the criteria.  lol
15:57 <@Dagmar> I told Neffi that it knows about the screenshot being published.  ;)
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16:08 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar:  I haven't counted.  Is the passwords perhaps too long?
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16:12 <@Dagmar> All green checkmarks.
16:12 <@Dagmar> You know as much as i do.  Don't ask me to fucking count letters
16:13 <@Corydon76-home> I wouldn't be surprised if there's an off-by-one error and it needs to be 31 characters long to be accepted
16:15 <@brimstone> i counted like, 18 hours ago, you have 32 characters
16:15 <@brimstone> try 31
16:22 <@Dagmar> THEY'RE NOT FUCKING MINE, BITCHES
16:22 <@Dagmar> Right.  Maybe you guys can nitpick this for a bit https://plus.google.com/108541235642523883716/posts/N11TuPkRwz7
16:22 <@Dagmar> Someone in Nashville got themselves an octocopter and din't tell us
16:22 <@Dagmar> It's a bit fucking noisy tho
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16:58 <@Dagmar> Also, this is what you get when you record the video from the phone (as opposed to stuffinng a thumbdrive into the parrot) https://plus.google.com/111871911020322579096/posts/1MTbQCrUswk
16:58 <@Dagmar> Real world video conditions, crappy light, pilot doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, etc
17:18 <@Bahhumbug> To top off the selinux thing... there are, roughly, 7834659873465903468598345 rules marked as dontaudit which, no matter what, will not log.  semodule -DB to disable dontaudit functionality (for testing or whatever) and then semodule -B to reenable the functionality.
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17:49 <@oddball> Dagmar: That's actually a pretty damn steady platform.
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17:54 < RangerZ> Dagmar: whatever the box says
17:54 < RangerZ> 15MPH winds is the 'absolute' max
17:54 < RangerZ> it can handle
17:55 < RangerZ> Julie has some really nice bigger drones, and even they can't handle 15 mph
17:55 < RangerZ> Julie Adams (from vandy) its one of her research areas
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18:28 <@Evilpig> open wifi hete but no ingress portal
18:28 <@Evilpig> it os a sold out show supposedly
18:33 < RangerZ> can you plug a sata 3 drive into a sata 2 connector?
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20:02 <@SuMo_D> aestetix: dmolnar finally arrived!
20:03 <@SuMo_D> apparently he's been around Noisebridge some the last few months and his assessment of everything is... Noisebridge has always been filled with odd people and continues to be filled with odd people. He said that at lunch with our folks though, so might need to get more out of him later...
20:04 <@SuMo_D> but after over a day of delays... they've been napping since post food
20:14 <@oddball> Just realized that I was watching American Psycho and sharpening a large knife...
20:15 < RangerZ> oddball: and thats unusual for you how?
20:15 <@oddball> fair enough
20:18 <@SuMo_D> lol
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23:23 < sdodson> lively in here
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23:39 <@Dagmar> I wonder... does hostapd's whitelist take wildcards
23:43 <@Dagmar> Hmm... Looks like I should make a patch for that
23:46 < sdodson> Dagmar, DOOOOO IT!
23:47 <@NotLarry> anyone used the lg tone with their computer?
23:48 <@Dagmar> sdodson: not sure if I should
23:49 <@Dagmar> sdodson: This is mainly for the Nintendo "Home Pass" thing where you use hostapd to spoof a Streetpass location
23:49 <@Dagmar> I just thought it would be easier if I changed my whitelist to simply accept all possible Nintendo devices, since it's only about 15 MAC prefixes
23:50 <@Dagmar> ...but it would be another step towards making an "easy" _permanent_ version of this to just stick in a ba'ang somewhere
23:50 <@Dagmar> ...and Nintendo is kind of using this is a revenue stream for cross-promotion
23:50 <@Dagmar> If I screw with *that* they'd upgrade the system and break Home Pass functionality entirely, I suspect.
23:53 <@Dagmar> There's a bunch of people who might be upset with me for that
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