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00:00 < anarchival> I'm sure I could find a professional to do something at a reasonable price, I'm just so disinterested in branding or marketing I'd rather use Nazi iconography and be done with it.
00:01 < RangerZ> yeah... bad idea
00:01 < RangerZ> you don't want this to come back to bite you in 10~15 years when a jewish manager hates you b/c of it
00:01 < RangerZ> etc
00:02 < RangerZ> or doesn't do business with you b/c of it (more likely), since they _will_ likely know
00:02 < RangerZ> its not as common as "SS" but still
00:05 < anarchival> I'm not being serious, but I do appreciate you're looking out for me in this way.
00:07 < RangerZ> don't worry, I treat all stray animals and children like that
00:07 < RangerZ> ;)
00:08 <@Dagmar> Soeaking of strays, apparently word is getting around among the neighborhood cats that I'm a soft touch
00:08 < RangerZ> they have monthly meetings
00:09 <@Dagmar> There was just another young cat outside freaked out and looking to me for help. A grey tabby this time
00:09 < RangerZ> only 45$ to get them neutered
00:09 < RangerZ> when I get a real job, thats what I'm going to do
00:10 <@Dagmar> This guy is too clean, and I keep seeing him coming from upstairs
00:10 < RangerZ> nice
00:10 <@Dagmar> I think the new people toss him out when there's people over or something
00:12 < RangerZ> my old neighbors above me, did that with the dog at night
00:12 < RangerZ> was pissing me off
00:12 < RangerZ> buy a fucking indoor carrier if you can't leave him out and about when you're asleep
00:14 <@Dagmar> Considering the way this and the other cat have behaved so far, I don't think I'd need to do anything but leave the electric blanket on
00:14 <@Dagmar> Rmemeber that orange tabby managed to sneak in and spent three _hours_ here, unattended
00:15 <@Dagmar> The grey guy snuck in last night and just casually strolled into my lab after I'd been home a half hour
00:15 <@Dagmar> I looked over at the door and see a cat (small, grey). "Meow."
00:15 <@Catonic> lol
00:16 <@Catonic> I think I accidentally adopted the neighbor's cat.
00:17 <@Dagmar> I am actually trying to *avoid* accidentally abducting someone else's cat
00:18 <@Dagmar> If this were a kitten that was running around loose (again) I'd just be off to the store to buy a carrier
00:18 <@Dagmar> He'd be chipped and have a collar by the end of the week
00:18 <@SuMo_D> awwww kitties...
00:19 <@SuMo_D> anarchival - I'm a graphics professional, if you did want to rework that logo at some point... but yeah wouldn't use it as is
00:20 <@Catonic> Cat doesn't have a collar, so I think they adopted it after I did.
00:21 < RangerZ> Dagmar: do you just leave your door open for a long time or something?
00:21 < RangerZ> or a window?
00:21 <@Dagmar> No. Cats are just stealthy
00:21 <@Dagmar> Literally all I have to do is not be watching around my feet and they can tail me
00:22 <@Catonic> cats and women work the same
00:22 <@Dagmar> Umm... no.
00:22 <@Catonic> actively ignore them and they will seek you out... head right for them and they run for shelter or safety
00:25 < RangerZ> in more than one way... find one that likes you... you get 3 at once... then none like you at all, lol
00:26 <@Catonic> anyway, cat shows up unannounced, tails me toward the apartment, meowing the whole time.
00:27 <@Catonic> I give him a can of sardines, figuring he's hungry.
00:27 <@Catonic> Then.. I have to figure out how to pet the cat, because it's his way or the sharp way.. and I'm allergiv.
00:27 <@Catonic> *allergic
00:27 <@Catonic> Now the cat runs up into the window and tries to make contact when he hears me come in... at 7pm, at 3am, whenever.
00:28 <@Dagmar> Um... If there was even an issue about what way, you didn't _need_ to pet the cat
00:28 <@Catonic> which is just pitiful, because he puts the paw up *because* he can't touch me.
00:29 <@Dagmar> Awww
00:29 <@Catonic> it was an exercise in parapsychology.
00:29 < RangerZ> and he won
00:29 < anarchival> Cats carry brain parasites. Death to all cats.
00:30 <@Dagmar> Cats carry unharmful brain parasites
00:30 < anarchival> They make you suicidal!!
00:30 <@Dagmar> Not that I've noticed
00:31 <@Dagmar> Then again, I'm neither a mouse, nor edible by cats
00:32 < anarchival> Sure you are. You're just not dead yet.
00:33 <@Catonic> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/kitty_pet
00:34 <@Catonic> but this cat is all little red riding hood... it's got to be just right... or the sharp ends come out
00:35 < anarchival> "The more pain they deal out, the more they are trying to tell you that they love you." Also like a woman.
00:42 <@Dagmar> OH MY GAWD
00:42 <@Dagmar> Enlightenment had another release
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00:45 < RangerZ> enlighenment?
00:45 < RangerZ> Enlightenment*
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00:48 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: http://www.enlightenment.org/
00:48 < GateKeeper> Title: Enlightenment - Beauty at your fingertips (at www.enlightenment.org)
00:48 < RangerZ> ok...
00:48 < RangerZ> i'm guessing you use it, and like it?
00:49 <@Dagmar> I have used it in the past
00:49 <@Dagmar> So like, the head developer is actually a goddamn genius
00:50 <@Dagmar> He ran into problems with X's speed compositing, so he went off and tweaked the fuck out of XFree and made it capable of using a compositor that didn't suck
00:50 < RangerZ> nice
00:50 < RangerZ> gotta love stuff like that
00:50 <@Dagmar> Most of the shiny you see now is at least in part due to his efforts
00:50 <@Dagmar> ....but it's a given that if E ever hits 1.0, the world will end
00:52 < RangerZ> lol
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00:55 < anarchival> This is glorious.
01:04 < RangerZ> you'd think the train would be cheaper than greyhound
01:04 < RangerZ> or flying
01:04 < RangerZ> ...but no...
01:04 < RangerZ> hell you even have to go to memphis to start the damn train ride
01:05 <@Dagmar> I am very disappointed in Starbound right now
01:05 <@Dagmar> You can buy from NPCs, but apparently you can not yet *sell* to them
01:05 <@Dagmar> I have been stripping alien temples down to the fucking primer
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01:13 <@NotLarry> wow
01:13 <@NotLarry> ok, starting my midnight to noon shifts.
01:17 < RangerZ> so you playing a ton of LoL now?
01:18 < RangerZ> @ NotLarry
01:21 < RangerZ> HA HA HA http://www.se2600.org/ircstats/
01:21 < GateKeeper> Title: #se2600 @ Freenode stats by Evilpig (at www.se2600.org)
01:21 < RangerZ> most reference URLs
01:21 < RangerZ> we're fine... until #9
01:25 <@Dickie> ass
01:25 <@Dickie> titties
01:25 <@Dickie> ass n titties
01:25 <@Dickie> That is all.
01:25 * Dickie quietly bows and leaves
01:26 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxBulp6A644
01:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Ass & Titties (NO WATERMARKS) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:27 <@NotLarry> RangerZ: RangerZ Actually thinking about knitting a puppet. And I brought in a guitar. Plus I'm working on trying to get a r00tw4rz event organized.
01:27 < anarchival> Polerin is on the stats page, but she is not in the channel. :(
01:29 < anarchival> How would you guys like to have a gaming decathlon at PhreakNIC?
01:29 < RangerZ> i like Dagmar's idea of having it next to a strip club
01:32 < anarchival> Are there any hotels in Nashville next to strip clubs, or are we moving to Vegas to compete with DEFCON?
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01:34 < anarchival> But seriously, guys. PhreakNIC is supposed to be *special.* Strippers are what you do every other weekend out of the year.
01:35 < anarchival> Aren't you even the least bit curious what a gamer decathlon is? Dammit, I worked it all out and now you're not even interested.
01:36 < anarchival> Like cats.
01:36 < RangerZ> make a presentation on google docs
01:36 < RangerZ> and share it
01:37 < anarchival> I'm going to make reveal.js about the goddamn gamer decathlon and serve it on node.js
01:37 < anarchival> HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW, NECKBEARDS?!
01:38 < anarchival> Screw it. You stripper watchin' cat lovers aren't good enough for a gamer decathlon.
01:39 < RangerZ> uhhh... ok... *shrugs*, i just don't feel like reading a presentation over IRC, and have been making the 'exact' same things for the entire weekend
01:39 < RangerZ> so i recommended doing the same
01:40 < anarchival> where are your presentations? I don't see them in the minutes folder
01:41 < RangerZ> they are for grad school, not se2600
01:41 < RangerZ> and 'exact' is a bit of a stretch, they are development lifecycle changes
01:41 < RangerZ> but still, to convey meaning and impress the viewers (my advisor)
01:42 < anarchival> Um, okay, sure. That's definitely apples to apples.
01:43 < RangerZ> ok w/e
01:43 < anarchival> I've never heard a grad student invoke tl;dr before. You must be tired.
01:43 < RangerZ> nope, lazy
01:44 < RangerZ> but I admit it
01:54 <@NotLarry> anarchival: strippers? I don't know who you hang out with but the people I hang out with don't "do" strippers every other weekend. Damn. I guess I've been getting the wrong weekends off.
01:55 < anarchival> We're living in Dagmar's imaginary world. Just play along.
01:57 <@NotLarry> 06:29 < anarchival> How would you guys like to have a gaming decathlon at PhreakNIC?
01:57 <@NotLarry> 06:38 < anarchival> Screw it. You stripper watchin' cat lovers aren't good enough for a gamer decathlon.
01:57 <@NotLarry> That escalated quickly.
01:58 <@NotLarry> how about the fact that it sometimes days before I can get back to my irc log to respond to someone? Or that most of us are asleep right now?
01:58 <@Dagmar> Let me make this simple.
01:58 <@Dagmar> If you want to be an asshole, go right ahead.
01:58 <@NotLarry> I probably would be interested, but damn, relax, have some coolaid...
01:58 <@Dagmar> If you're going to continue to try and take things I say out of context and distort them, I WILL make your life hell.
01:59 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: Not yammering at you
01:59 < anarchival> You guys are the ones with your thong up your asses, not me.
01:59 <@Dagmar> Take your fucking meds.
01:59 <@NotLarry> As far as living in Dagmar's imaginary world, you might be right. But I kind of like Dagmar's imagination.
01:59 < anarchival> Bring it, Dagmar. We'll see who can out-crazy who.
01:59 <@NotLarry> what?
01:59 <@NotLarry> are you ware?
01:59 < anarchival> Look who can dish it out, but can't fucking take it...
02:00 < anarchival> Grow a thicker skin, boys.
02:00 <@Dagmar> You seem to be unawware that we _ban_ people from this channel for being abrasive dickbags.
02:00 <@NotLarry> I flip over to this screen to see what has been going on tonight and I see you go from "what to have a gaming decathlon" to "Screw it" in 9 minutes?
02:00 <@Dagmar> I don't "dish it". I don't "take it". I "put a fucking stop to it".
02:00 < anarchival> lol I thought you guys were all about openness and inclusivity and not banning people because they talk trash?
02:01 <@Dagmar> Whatever the fuck you've got going on in your life that's making you behave like a rabid gutter rat, I suggest you regulate on.
02:01 <@NotLarry> I was trying to get my add in check long enough to ask you about this gaming decathalon, but I was not quick enough.
02:01 < anarchival> If getting banned from the channel is the price I pay for not kissing your ass, it's worth it.
02:01 <@NotLarry> First time that has happened to me. My wife says I'm a little too quick.
02:02 <@NotLarry> wtf is this ban shit coming from?
02:02 < anarchival> NotLarry: I was making a joke. Like I said, stop being oversensitive
02:02 <@Dagmar> No, I'm perfectly willing to let you sit and fester until everyone's _quite_ clear as to what happened
02:02 < anarchival> I was trying to make some conversation with the people who were here.
02:03 <@NotLarry> what, you don't want to have a gaming decathlon?
02:03 < anarchival> The room responded by telling me to make a preso. I dropped the topic. Why are you guys trying to make this a thing?
02:03 <@NotLarry> the room?
02:03 < anarchival> Oh, wait. I know...you don't apparently don't want me here and are looking for an excuse to ban me.
02:03 < anarchival> vagina.
02:03 <@NotLarry> hold on, let me check my logs
02:03 <@NotLarry> and your not allowed to use that word in here.
02:04 < anarchival> Poor babies. The woman in the channel makes them so *uncomfortable*
02:04 <@NotLarry> it scares the kiddies
02:04 < RangerZ> I appologize for suggesting you make a presentation, that could be shared with everyone, and 'trying' to be considerate of your work for the group. I didn't realize you would take it as an insult
02:04 < RangerZ> honestly, i didn't
02:04 < anarchival> Tell it to aesthetix, who says it every time I enter the room.
02:04 < anarchival> vagina vagina vagina vagina penis
02:05 < anarchival> I didn't take it as an insult
02:05 <@Dagmar> No, he says it _once_ and only once.
02:05 < anarchival> I took it as a "I don't really want to chat about this right now"
02:05 < anarchival> which was fine, we can chat about it whenever
02:05 <@Dagmar> ...and he's been doing that for fairly close to six months now.
02:05 < RangerZ> that too
02:05 <@Dagmar> It has nothing to do with you, whatsoever.
02:05 < anarchival> God, I can't believe we're talking about not talking about something
02:05 < anarchival> this is like having a fucking boyfriend
02:05 < RangerZ> i fully admit that, i didn't want to get into a long discussion about some proposal for PN
02:06 < RangerZ> but i was trying to be nice about it, *shrugs*
02:06 <@NotLarry> Damn, the shit y'all talk about...
02:06 <@NotLarry> Catonic said cats and women are just alike? Is he suggesting there is more than one way to skin a woman?
02:07 < anarchival> I don't know, but we probably ought to check his basement.
02:07 < anarchival> So hey, NotLarry, are you interested in the gamer decathlon?
02:08 <@NotLarry> Could be. is it safe to google it?
02:09 < anarchival> I don't know, I just came up with the idea today.
02:09 < anarchival> Not to represent that it's an original thing, I imagine other people have had it, too
02:09 < anarchival> Probably ought to research that, see if somebody else has done it better...
02:09 <@NotLarry> what is your idea?
02:10 < anarchival> Ten gamer stations, representing a broad range of game styles. Ex: card game, RPG, backgammon, chess, board game preferrably cooperative, trivia, puzzle, console, mobile, PC such as survive the first night of Minecraft, fencing
02:10 < anarchival> Gamers move in small groups from station to station, probably about ten minutes each
02:11 <@NotLarry> k, got it
02:11 < anarchival> there's a goal to achieve at each station, for example if the card game were poker the goal might be a minimum of five hands, highest chip stack wins
02:11 <@NotLarry> Working it up now
02:12 < anarchival> some stations you're competing against other players, others you're competing purely against game (like Minecraft, which we could do with Arduinos)
02:12 < anarchival> the board game could even be cooperative; that way fewer people will know how to play it, and it fits into the meta game: cooperate and all win together, or if you're ahead, sabotage and lose
02:12 < anarchival> When you win a station, you get a Winner card
02:13 < anarchival> person with ten Winner cards at the end wins the tournament. We could also have second and third. Prizes from sponsors. Sudden death eliminations in an eleventh game for ties.
02:13 < anarchival> That's it.
02:14 <@NotLarry> kk
02:14 < anarchival> (obviously if no one has ten winner cards it will fall to the next most highest number)
02:15 <@SuMo_D> penis
02:16 * NotLarry gently washes SuMo_D's penis, you dirty girl...
02:16 <@SuMo_D> strap on cleanliness for the win!
02:17 <@NotLarry> Anyone in the house got a cricket bat?
02:17 <@SuMo_D> anarchical that sounds like it could be fun
02:17 <@NotLarry> I like it.
02:17 <@SuMo_D> whatever happens this year, more activities that people can join is a good thing
02:18 <@SuMo_D> options for activities I guess
02:18 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: you could probably make some good money with that 'attachment' at PN next year
02:18 < RangerZ> maybe some leather
02:18 < RangerZ> etc
02:18 <@NotLarry> Everyone likes modification...
02:18 <@Dagmar> Track down Speck. She's good with leather.
02:19 <@SuMo_D> well the real equipment is broken... so who knows might have to investigate that as a long term option
02:19 <@NotLarry> my equipment is not broken, I've just got it's sensors turned way down.
02:20 < RangerZ> NotLarry don't worry, this spring your wife is going to tell you that she's pregnant with your next child
02:20 <@NotLarry> I made Icepho3nix and HayDeeZ and I think that is enough.
02:20 < RangerZ> that'll be 'great' news for you
02:20 <@SuMo_D> dude... I wish I could turn the sensors way down... nerve damage is awful
02:20 <@NotLarry> I was talking about getting another child today.
02:20 <@NotLarry> Was in a toy store, then was playing with baby socks at wal-mart.
02:21 <@NotLarry> She said no.
02:21 <@NotLarry> SuMo_D: I got a little on the left side.
02:22 <@SuMo_D> sorry to hear that :(
02:22 <@NotLarry> trivial, surgical damage.
02:22 <@NotLarry> For a few months I was suffering from constant burns on my left hip, realzed I was sleeping on the fking waterbed heater and could not feel it.
02:23 < RangerZ> every so often, i try to read up on nerve damage repair
02:23 < RangerZ> my step dad crushed his hand in a 5000lb press
02:23 <@SuMo_D> yeah mine is from the mid back down, centered in the pelvic region and yeah... its an asshole... it goes from mildly annoying holy fuck I'm getting stabbed... no fun
02:23 < RangerZ> yeah....nerve damage
02:23 < RangerZ> they are 'on the brink' of a lot of nerve repair discoveries, but we'll see which one happen first
02:24 <@SuMo_D> its pretty bad tonight, and I've been getting sick for the last hour or two (stuff I ate today) - suuuuuuuuuucks hope it passes
02:24 <@SuMo_D> I'm supposed to do stuff tomorrow
02:24 <@Dagmar> I'll consider myself lucky to merely have trouble doing a vulcan gtreeting with my left hand
02:24 <@Dagmar> Well, and my right
02:24 <@SuMo_D> B vitamins help
02:24 <@Dagmar> Fucking funny bones
02:24 <@SuMo_D> but not enough
02:24 <@NotLarry> Did everyone in here just do the vulcan greeting with both hands?
02:24 < RangerZ> my hips and knees were starting to wear out... So i had to stop wresting in HS
02:26 < RangerZ> b/c too many people who didn't stop completely wear out their knees... and thats not a pretty sight
02:28 <@Dagmar> Horrible, misshapen knees?
02:29 < RangerZ> mine aren't too bad
02:29 < RangerZ> i quit after 2.5 yrs
02:29 < RangerZ> it was hurting me going down steps
02:32 <@SuMo_D> that sucks, yeah joints are bitchy
02:32 <@SuMo_D> as are backs
02:33 < RangerZ> yeah, thankfully stopping helped
02:33 < RangerZ> but I had already messed up my metabolism
02:33 < RangerZ> i'm 2x my freshman weight now :/
02:35 <@SuMo_D> sucks
02:36 <@Dagmar> OKay. Fright Night 2 is weird
02:36 <@SuMo_D> yeah my ex would always complain about his "ultra fast metabolism" I was like.... stfu dude....
02:37 <@SuMo_D> he was short though, and when he was younger skinny.... so he had a complex about it... made he lift weights, which... that was a good thing but still I'm like dude... you look how hard I work, and you see how much it doesn't show... stfu
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03:03 * RangerZ breathes in fresh air
03:03 < RangerZ> was that mean?
03:03 < RangerZ> lol
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03:39 < RangerZ1> Shadow404: http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/12/23/0148252/spacesuit-problems-delay-iss-repair-spacewalk
03:39 < GateKeeper> Title: Spacesuit Problems Delay ISS Repair Spacewalk - Slashdot (at science.slashdot.org)
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08:17 <@Shadow404> RangerZ1: good article
08:29 <@wilpig> just read the scrollback from last night. wow. that's all I have to say about it. just wow
08:29 <@wilpig> 0 - bitch in three lines. how is that possible?
08:31 <@wilpig> more amazing was there wasn't anyone else in the mix there either. just one person. just bizarre
08:32 <@Shadow404> what happened?
08:32 <@wilpig> someone's crazy switch flipped last night
08:32 <@Shadow404> i saw her join, but i was admisdst a game and didnt pay attention
08:33 -ChanServ:#se2600- wilpig set flags +AORiorstv on anarchival.
08:34 <@wilpig> we'll see if that stops the ban paranoia.
08:34 <@wilpig> seeing as how she clearly didn't look at the ban list before ranting
08:34 <@Shadow404> we cant ban her now?
08:34 <@Shadow404> thats no fun
08:34 <@wilpig> she could unban herself if she has the ability
08:35 <@Shadow404> shall we test this?
08:35 <@wilpig> fine by me
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08:36 <@wilpig> that was what he was wanting right? haha
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08:43 <@Shadow404> dick
08:43 <@wilpig> you asked for it
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08:45 < Shadow404> awww
08:45 * Shadow404 hugs wilpig
08:45 < Shadow404> this reminds me of the ware era
08:46 <@wilpig> alright. I've got a set of nested
's. i'm currently scanning through and if an - has a link in it that matches my search criteria I set a class on the li to "active". is there a simple way in jquery/javascript to tell it to look at the parents... fuck i'm retarded
08:51 < aestetix> vagina
08:55 <@wilpig> stupid css
08:56 < Shadow404> lady bits
09:06 <@wilpig> I hate this vpn
09:07 < Shadow404> i hate your vpn to, cause your using it
09:07 < Shadow404> get off my interwebs
09:07 < Shadow404> wilpig: speaking of, you torrent a bunch of stuff this weekend?
09:07 < Shadow404> video was all over the place
09:10 <@wilpig> Yes and no
09:11 <@wilpig> I wiped my desktop and was reloading shit from steam/blizzard/etc
09:11 < Shadow404> ah ok
09:12 < Shadow404> yeah, i was worried that i messed up on my cable runs from the closet to behind the mantle where the media players were and was checkign for errors on the router port logs
09:13 < Shadow404> then ran a ping to your server and noticed latency, even the plex homepage on your server took 10 secs to fully load to get to the prompt
09:15 <@wilpig> this is gonna paste so poorly but lets see what happens
09:15 <@wilpig> Lunch today will be a sausage bar from Rosamunde Sausage Grill.
09:15 <@wilpig> Beer Sausage Smoked, spicy pork and beef Weisswurst Veal and pork with leeks and herbs Cheddar Bratwurst Savory pork, cheddar Chicken Merguez Sausage Moroccan spiced chicken Duck Sausage Duck and figs Vegan Kielbasa Polish-style vegan sausage Vegan Apple Sage Smoked with potato and ginger French Roll Grilled and buttery Sauerkraut Grilled Onions & More
09:15 <@wilpig> better than I thought
09:15 < Shadow404> yum, send me some
09:21 <@NotLarry> I'm gonna have cold rice.
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09:23 < Shadow404> and you will like it and you wont complain
09:23 <@NotLarry> I'm not complaining, I feel lucky to be able have that.
09:24 * Shadow404 hands NotLarry some moldy bread to wash it down with
09:24 < Shadow404> im feeling charitable today
09:27 < aestetix> Shadow404: what was the ware era
09:27 < Shadow404> trolling (like we saw the other day), kick and ban wars
09:27 < Shadow404> and then he tried to script that shit and was almost successful in kick banning the whole channel
09:29 < aestetix> haha
09:29 < aestetix> I thought ware was reformed now
09:29 < Shadow404> lawl, did you see him come in and try to troll Corydon and wilpig
09:29 < aestetix> no
09:29 < Shadow404> the other day?
09:29 < Shadow404> oh wow
09:29 < aestetix> oh wait
09:29 < aestetix> yes
09:29 < aestetix> that was funny
09:30 < Shadow404> yeah, thats ware.....
09:30 < aestetix> Mr data center job
09:30 < Shadow404> errr, aka, remote hands noob
09:31 <@wilpig> I really don't understand why he always brings up my ex cheating on me as if that was something I did.
09:32 < Shadow404> yeah, alot of us are on the same boat wilpig
09:32 <@NotLarry> Well, I just want to be sure you know it wasn't something I did.
09:32 < Shadow404> fuck bitches
09:32 < Shadow404> NotLarry: haha
09:33 <@NotLarry> Well, I had a brush with crazy on facebook a few months back that was like asking for anal. I can now friend old girlfriends on facebook and my wife doesn't even flinch.
09:34 < Shadow404> who was receiving?
09:43 <@wilpig> alright. I want to export all the style properties of something on a page. is there an easy way to do this?
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09:50 < aestetix> You know what's the scariest thing about ware?
09:50 < aestetix> He is the most likely person to have a bunch of kids
09:50 < Shadow404> we needed to sterilize him
09:51 < aestetix> So
09:51 < aestetix> If ware had a kid, what animal would it most closely resemble?
09:53 < Shadow404> a leumer (sp)?
09:53 < Shadow404> or a donkey
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10:14 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: l-e-m-u-r.
10:18 < Shadow404> ahah, i did say (sp?)
10:21 <@wilpig> and he helped you with that
10:21 <@wilpig> :P
10:22 * Shadow404 kicks wilpig
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11:19 <@benthemeek> demon
11:19 <@benthemeek> or worse angel
11:19 <@benthemeek> (still talking about ware's spawn)
11:20 <@benthemeek> Did he troll us again this weekend?
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11:22 <@NotLarry> http://imgur.com/gallery/w7GHYaL
11:22 < GateKeeper> Title: Well said, brother. - Imgur (at imgur.com)
11:24 <@wilpig> just the once benthemeek
11:24 <@wilpig> one might argue that his continued existence is a troll on all of us though
11:30 < Shadow404> how should we resolve this issue wilpig ?
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11:33 <@wilpig> Shadow404: oh how i'd love to
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11:34 <@Mirage> wilpig: Kenon got a promotion..so I just emailed him congrats and this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcqToQzzGY
11:34 < GateKeeper> Title: The JeffersonsTheme Song - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
11:36 <@Dagmar> Jesus
11:38 <@wilpig> oh damn
11:39 <@wilpig> lol
11:39 <@Mirage> What?!..=)
11:40 < Shadow404> douche
11:40 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiwRkNQzw9k
11:40 < GateKeeper> Title: Elder Scrolls Online News - ESO PvP Developer Talks Details On Map Size, Combat & More - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
11:40 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Doesn't matter
11:40 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: If they're sticking to their current timetable, they're on course for a flop as big as Conan
11:41 < Shadow404> Dagmar: hows the new gig?
11:41 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: Dull as shit
11:41 < RangerZ1> isn't that 'good' ?
11:41 <@Dagmar> ...but at least I'm starting to take up knowing which office I'm heading to
11:41 < RangerZ1> compared to being backstabed all the time
11:41 <@Mirage> Dagmar: not in the same one we were in before?
11:42 <@Dagmar> Yes
11:42 <@Dagmar> Beats the hell out of stayign with the idiot brigade
11:43 < Shadow404> did they ever say that tagline "were sorry to see you go"
11:43 <@Dagmar> Nope
11:43 <@Dagmar> In fact they were very sensibly as quiet as possible about it
11:45 < Shadow404> i bet you were biting your tongue so much
11:49 <@Dagmar> This is why it's good they were quiet about it
11:49 <@Dagmar> I would have merrily told a room full of people exactly why I was leaving
11:51 <@wilpig> they will have more changes to their roster in the coming days
11:51 <@wilpig> speaking of. damnit dagmar. you handing the phone off to shelton just really confused the fuck out of me
11:54 <@Dagmar> It's Shelton. I didn't exactly just "hand" it to him
11:58 <@wilpig> damnit I need an ipad
12:00 <@Dagmar> No you don't.
12:00 <@wilpig> yeah I do. I don't want one, I need one for testing
12:00 <@wilpig> just changed the menu for opendcim out and need one to test with. I can test android on my phone and touchpad.
12:00 <@Dagmar> Just light a $10 bill on fire while you load the page on an Android tablet
12:01 <@wilpig> that'd be just about as effective
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12:49 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: there's an emulator for the device on your Mac, if you install it in the developer tools
12:49 <@Dagmar> Oh nifty. Doge CGI http://dogr.io/
12:49 < GateKeeper> Title: such doge - much generator - wow (at dogr.io)
12:49 <@Corydon76-home> I do the same on a regular basis with Android devices
12:49 <@Dagmar> He has a mac?
12:50 <@wilpig> Dagmar: yes I have a mac
12:50 <@wilpig> I have a spiffy macbook air
12:50 <@wilpig> one of the brand new ones
12:53 <@wilpig> Corydon76-home: xcode?
12:53 <@Dagmar> Perv-o.
12:54 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: yes
12:54 <@wilpig> k. installing it now
12:55 <@Corydon76-home> You have to go into a special area within the tool to download the emulators as add-ons, same place as you install the command line tools
12:56 <@wilpig> k. i'll look here in a sec after it finishes loading
12:56 <@Corydon76-home> While it won't give you the full experience, in terms of the touch-screen, it should be close enough, especially for things like screen size, CSS layout, etc.
12:57 <@wilpig> that's pretty much what I need to test
12:57 <@Corydon76-home> You'll also be able to test with the iPhone screen size, as well as the various iOS releases
13:07 <@wilpig> it works okay. it doesnt like my resize code one bit
13:10 <@NotLarry> *sigh*
13:10 <@NotLarry> the magical shift change time is upon us
13:12 <@NotLarry> I don't want to know.
13:12 <@NotLarry> I need some audio from porn
13:13 <@NotLarry> Something I can stick on the monitoring machine, just playing in a loop, just barely audible.
13:31 <@Mirage> Mudflap used to have his nagios setup play night sounds (crickets) when everything was good.
13:32 <@Mirage> Dagmar: What was that intelligent thermostat you got?
13:32 <@Dagmar> I didn't get it yet. Nest
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13:34 < Shadow404> I recommend IRIS if you also want house security and automation
13:34 < Shadow404> more expensive than x10, but i really do like it
13:35 <@Mirage> Shadow404: I want one that I can tell it that I want the house to be between 68-78 degrees, then it figures out whether to heat or cool the place.
13:36 < Shadow404> yep, my learns the best pattern
13:36 <@Mirage> I'm getting tired of the wife turning the damn thing off, then it either being 85 in the house..or like this morning..62
13:36 < Shadow404> nest does the same thing, but you can tweak the algorithm more
13:36 < Shadow404> heh, you can turn the thermostat on and off
13:36 < Shadow404> graph the temps
13:36 < Shadow404> set limits
13:36 < Shadow404> track filter, etc
13:37 < Shadow404> speaking of, i need to change the filter
13:39 < Shadow404> grabbing a screenshot for you
13:42 <@Dagmar> I like how CyanogenMod releases 10.1.3 then finds out it's bad and pulls it twice...
13:42 <@Dagmar> ...then they do a 10.2.0 RC1 then a 10.2.0 release, and then they pull the release.
13:42 <@benthemeek> He wouldnt be talking about makers 256 would he? https://twitter.com/donttrythis/status/415168323660177408/photo/1
13:42 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / donttrythis: Some local makers set up wares ... (at twitter.com)
13:43 <@wilpig> I would hope so
13:44 <@benthemeek> brimstone: Doest thou knowest?
13:45 < Shadow404> Dagmar: http://www.snsweather.com:81/iris_thermo.jpg
13:45 < Shadow404> does pretty much what you want
13:46 < Shadow404> i can lay in bed and change it manually on a one off basis, if im chilly or to warm, and it will go back to the schedule at the next time section (morning, day, night)
13:46 <@Dagmar> Why does it say 'Lowe's' in the corner?
13:46 < Shadow404> cause its a lowes product
13:47 < Shadow404> i think they financed the R&D and own part of it or something
13:47 <@wilpig> Shadow404: change your filter.
13:48 < Shadow404> yep, im lazy, its actually worse than that, they didnt put the filter portion into th display till a month ago, i been running on the stock filter than came with the house 4 months ago when i purchased it
13:48 < Shadow404> i installed the iris after that
13:49 < Shadow404> it runs on the same software as x10, so you can add x10 devices, not all of them are compatible, but the normal x10 switches, dimmers, locks, etc can be programmed in and accepted by iris
13:49 <@Dagmar> That's not a good selling point
13:49 < Shadow404> so you dont always have to buy expensive iris branded gear
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14:44 <@brimstone> benthemeek: yeah, he was in town last night
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15:04 < RangerZ2> so... shit...
15:05 < RangerZ2> My funding source is drying up... So... either time to find a new prof to pay me to be an indentured servant ... OR off to industry ASAP now
15:06 <@Mirage> So..who's "anarchival"?
15:06 <@benthemeek> New member of the 2600
15:07 <@benthemeek> Went to phreaknic back in the early 00's
15:07 < wilpig_> the chick that wants a code of conduct added to pn
15:07 * RangerZ2 sighs
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15:07 <@Mirage> wilpig_: hehehh...hahahaah....mog!
15:08 * wilpig_ sings the mog's go marching two by two
15:08 < wilpig_> mog mog mog!
15:08 <@benthemeek> Mog wants a code of conduct?
15:08 <@Mirage> bite me
15:08 < Shadow404> lawl, code of conduct and PN.....bhahaahahaha
15:08 < wilpig_> I just like making mog's terminal make noise
15:09 < Shadow404> i thought it was just a 615 thing
15:09 * Mirage only feels safe saying thatbeing in another state
15:09 < Shadow404> thats halarious
15:09 < wilpig_> fuck. it isn't even on channel
15:09 <@Dagmar> You're not trying hard enough.
15:09 < Shadow404> thats like askign skydick to stop praying on shy sensitive women
15:11 <@Mirage> Anyone else on Cyanogenmod 10.2?
15:11 < wilpig_> s/shy\ sensative//
15:12 < wilpig_> s/praying/preying/
15:12 < RangerZ> s/shy/underage
15:12 < RangerZ> which would lead to : s/women/girls
15:14 <@Corydon76-home> I'm actually curious as to the legal liability implications of a code of conduct, because I suspect an official promise to do something brings with it liability both if you fail to do something, as well as if you misapply the rules
15:15 <@Dagmar> I see it as chumming the waters for ADA-types.
15:15 < wilpig_> I still say even considering something liek that which is inherently uninforcable is just a bad idea
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15:16 <@Corydon76-home> I wouldn't say it's necessarily unenforceable, just that it likely requires a lot more manpower than we presently have.
15:16 <@Corydon76-home> Manpower AND specific training
15:17 < RangerZ> and money
15:17 < RangerZ> to get the above two
15:17 <@wilpig> it's not enforcable. this group would sit there and pick at any document we put out about acceptable behavior and would find the loopholes and we'd be constatntly stuck in revision hell
15:17 <@Corydon76-home> Well, not necessarily
15:17 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: and I would agree with that assessment
15:18 <@wilpig> it's a policy that is doomed to failure by it's very nature
15:18 <@Corydon76-home> The essence of all policies is "Don't be a dick" as Wil Wheaton so eloquently put it
15:19 < RangerZ> "PN will tread all persons as adults, and as adults, they will be asked to behave in gracious and courteous manner, but PN holds no responsibility for any actions of any (insert list of all types of people here)"
15:19 <@wilpig> and if we put in any type of policy it should be something worded to that phrasing. nothing stated definitively, and seeing as how that's generally the attitude we take to things anyway it really shouldn't be necessary to put into writing
15:19 < RangerZ> and be done with it
15:19 <@wilpig> RangerZ: we don't treat ware or aestetix_ like adults
15:19 < RangerZ> true
15:20 < RangerZ> then specifically exempt them as 'people'
15:20 < RangerZ> or atleast 'adults' ;)
15:20 <@Corydon76-home> "If you need more specific guidelines, the hotel has guidelines as to the appropriate use of the property."
15:21 <@Corydon76-home> "Piss off the hotel, and there's nothing we can do to help you. In fact, we will assist the hotel in throwing you out, if the need arises."
15:22 <@wilpig> we've smoothed over shit with hotels in the past
15:22 <@Dagmar> I was fond of "We expect you to behave as if you were actually raised by caring adults."
15:22 <@wilpig> various elevator shenanigans, smoke machines, noise compliants, the gun incident.
15:23 <@wilpig> that woman was fucking nuts and the hotel eventually decided she was pulling shenanigans just trying to get a free room
15:24 < Shadow404> hey wilpig, whats that bar down the street you like that has all that goofy shit on the walls and the mozerella sticks?
15:29 < RangerZ> noshville?
15:30 < RangerZ> but hell... there are a 100 place that fit that description in nashville region, lol
15:30 * Shadow404 obviously didnt watchin super troopers
15:30 <@wilpig> ugh. fucking IE. I swear
15:30 < Shadow404> er, RangerZ obviously didnt watch super troopers
15:30 <@wilpig> I saw where you were going and I support RangerZ
15:32 < Shadow404> douche
15:33 < RangerZ> we have any Australians in here? http://i.imgur.com/G5n1VlU.png
15:34 < RangerZ> "my hat money buys research to find a cure for Australia. Over 22 million people are Australian every year. It is a tragedy."
15:34 <@wilpig> anyone want to debug IE for me? you like css, you love css, you love ie. okay not the last one but you love to beat it into submission?
15:37 <@Mirage> I normally just use it to download firefox or something else that works.
15:37 <@wilpig> same
15:38 <@wilpig> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201262085784556&l=137e9c5a8c
15:38 < GateKeeper> Title: Photo (at www.facebook.com)
15:40 < RangerZ> wilpig: I saw a great web-comic about a web designer being a dominatrix to some IE and CSS avatars, making them work together
15:40 <@wilpig> did all the sites end up looking like geocities?
15:41 < RangerZ> more like myspace pabes
15:41 < RangerZ> pages*
15:43 < Shadow404> pages/pubes
15:44 <@wilpig> IE would be easier to fix if it's devtools worked in realtime like ALL THE OTHER FUCKING BROWSERS
15:44 <@wilpig> *sigh*
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16:08 <@wilpig> turns out my ie nonsense was again some ie quirk where they made their own approach to the box model
16:08 <@wilpig> fuckers
16:13 <@Corydon76-home> You don't know pain until you've seen an application that only works in IE, and you have to set the Security Model to Low.
16:14 <@wilpig> been there
16:14 <@wilpig> we called it "Magic"
16:14 <@wilpig> and it liked poopups
16:14 <@Mirage> and timeouts..while in the middle of using it.
16:15 < aestetix_> vagina
16:15 < Shadow404> great example..."siebel"
16:15 <@wilpig> it had this amazing feature where it would pull you out of other apps when it decided it was time for you to sign out. it didnt' want any input from you but it wanted to stop you from whatever you were doing
16:15 < Shadow404> but i swear oracle is in bed with IE
16:21 < RangerZ> both hate Google
16:21 < RangerZ> so its not 'entirely' farfetched
16:34 < aestetix_> penis
16:38 <@wilpig> does everybody know what time it is?!
16:38 <@wilpig> it's time for an ice cold refreshing MEXICAN COKE!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO
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16:41 * Shadow404 notices some what powder on wilpig's nose as he returns
16:41 < Shadow404> *white
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16:47 < aestetix_> you said white
16:47 < aestetix_> racist
16:49 < Shadow404> yep, im a racist, i would never say black powder, ughh
16:50 < aestetix_> just black power
16:50 * wilpig throws his fist in the air
16:51 <@wilpig> sieg heil
16:51 <@wilpig> we're gonna go looting next right?
16:55 < Shadow404> yep and get rid of all the undesireables
16:55 <@Dagmar> Looting what?
16:55 <@Dagmar> The only looting white people generally see is in video games.
16:56 < Shadow404> lol
16:56 < MinecraftRelay> Server appears to have stopped responding
16:56 * Shadow404 just looted minecraft
16:58 <@wilpig> wtf
16:58 <@wilpig> never seen it do that before
16:59 <@wilpig> hrmm. my hosting server is not a happy camper right now
16:59 <@wilpig> time to head home. i'll look at it when I get there
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17:34 * Catonic loots booty
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17:46 <@wilpig> Dec 23 16:03:18 hosting kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 482 (Plex Media Serv) score 776 or sacrifice child
17:46 <@wilpig> Dec 23 16:03:18 hosting kernel: Killed process 2225, UID 488, (Plex Media Scan) total-vm:349904kB, anon-rss:144kB, file-rss:4kB
17:47 <@wilpig> sacrifice the child!
17:49 < Shadow404> oh shiza
17:49 < Shadow404> that could of caused theissue i was seeing
17:50 < Shadow404> gf says no issues now and a big thx
17:50 <@wilpig> tits or gtfo!
17:52 < Shadow404> pm
17:53 <@wilpig> I love these simpsons quests or whatever you call them where you can make pretty much everyone in town goto one place.
17:53 < Shadow404> and they all come flooding out at completion?
17:54 <@wilpig> yup with one button press
17:54 <@wilpig> you haven't logged on in a while and so you haven't seen the new button to find people that aren't on ajob
17:54 < aestetix_> anal sex
17:54 < Shadow404> tehehe, my phone almost choked for like 3 secs on that
17:54 < Shadow404> aestetix_: get your hands out of your pants
17:54 < Shadow404> wilpig: yeah.....i got bored of it
17:57 <@wilpig> is it me or is this site just loading slow? http://nextdc.com/data-centres/data-centre-locations/c1-canberra-data-centre
17:57 < GateKeeper> Title: C1 Canberra data centre : NEXTDC (at nextdc.com)
18:08 < RangerZ3> loading slow
18:09 < RangerZ3> looks like they have twitter and tumblr integration, thats the problem
18:09 < RangerZ3> lol
18:13 < RangerZ3> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/23/2220230/alan-turing-pardoned
18:13 < GateKeeper> Title: Alan Turing Pardoned - Slashdot (at yro.slashdot.org)
18:13 < RangerZ3> thats good
18:13 < RangerZ3> but all gays should have been
18:14 < RangerZ3> sorry Corydon76-home you're still guilty of being gay in the south, a crime punishable by stupidity being around you all the time
18:15 <@Corydon76-home> Hmmm?
18:19 <@wilpig> guess I should go make some dinner. bbl
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20:00 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: Looks like it's time to start a new Starbound world. The patch today apparently added a bunch of content, including plantable trees
20:27 < RangerZ3> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib1YOlM2aNY nvidia mobile graphics cards with 4gb and 8gb in SLI
20:28 < GateKeeper> Title: Nvidia GTX 800 Series Roadmap Leaked Rumor - 8,6 & 4GB Memory Config - Released Early 2013 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:28 < RangerZ3> thats a little ridiculous since it won't have nearly as many cuda cores as a desktop
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21:12 <@benthemeek> sweet!
21:13 <@benthemeek> Dagmar: I had maxed out everything in my other character anyway
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21:54 <@wilpig> holy shit
21:54 <@wilpig> I may have just gotten more life out of this old piece of shit afterall
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21:55 <@wilpig> changed the driver out for the controller from running standard ide to achi and the windows hardware assessment went from a 5.8 to a 7.3
22:04 < RangerZ3> nice
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22:04 <@wilpig> also realized my ram's been running at 667 instead of 800 which isnt' a big difference but combined with the better driver/controller support maybe it will be something
22:23 <@NotLarry> well fuck, awake too early
22:24 < RangerZ> that 'is' a big difference
22:24 < RangerZ> actually
22:24 <@NotLarry> RangerZ: Wait, Corydon76-home is gay?!?
22:24 < RangerZ> ohh no
22:24 < RangerZ> i was mistaken
22:25 <@NotLarry> Whew, don't scare me like that.
22:25 < RangerZ> don't worry, you can still have those sleep overs at his place in peace
22:25 <@NotLarry> I like to keep those things in hand, iykwim
22:26 < RangerZ> i figured you enjoyed stuffing your face , but YMMV
22:26 <@NotLarry> today is my 9th day in a row at work.
22:26 < RangerZ> gods... I feel like i've worked a lot when I've worked 3 days in a row... i mean... anyone hiring ;)
22:27 < RangerZ> lol
22:27 < RangerZ> NotLarry: still understaffed?
22:28 <@NotLarry> Wow, my paystub is on the website.
22:28 <@NotLarry> Yeah, right.
22:28 <@NotLarry> You should just come to the meeting on 12/30
22:28 < RangerZ> huh?
22:29 <@NotLarry> Tell them you are applying for one of the 3 open spots and you would like your interview.
22:29 < RangerZ> ahh
22:29 <@NotLarry> oddball too
22:29 < RangerZ> I might actually be doing that....
22:29 < RangerZ> my funding source ran out :/
22:29 < RangerZ> so I have to find another phd to fund me... or get a job
22:29 <@NotLarry> RangerZ: send me your rl information. I will try to email some one. Did you put in an app?
22:30 < RangerZ> not yet
22:30 < RangerZ> been busy doing paperwork, etc for finishing up masters
22:30 < RangerZ> and just found out today about funding
22:30 <@NotLarry> oh fk
22:31 <@NotLarry> I have a stupid game idea, anyone in here interested in trying to put something together to try and implement it?
22:32 <@Dagmar> Maybe
22:32 < RangerZ> as long as it involves kittens, and presentations ;)
22:32 * RangerZ snickers
22:33 <@NotLarry> It is a mpo, maybe fps, of rock paper scissors.
22:34 <@Dagmar> They already did that.
22:34 <@Dagmar> It was the combat system from The Matrix Online
22:37 < RangerZ> NotLarry: Notacon badge next year , had an idea for that , where each badge would have short range wireless sensor that allows r/p/s @ ~5ft, etc
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22:45 <@NotLarry> well
22:46 <@NotLarry> sweet, the Christmas present the wife got me is in nashville and scheduled to be delivered Tues
22:49 <@NotLarry> ok, anyone use irssi?
22:50 <@oddball> yes
22:51 <@NotLarry> I was using xterm and my alt# keys were giving me something other than i expected, I just putty'd into the client so I fixored it:)
22:51 <@NotLarry> The real solution would be to fix my xterm session right?
22:51 <@oddball> I would think so.
22:51 <@NotLarry> so inside irssi is there a command to switch windows?
22:52 <@oddball> besides alt#?
22:52 <@NotLarry> yeah, sry, should be clearer
22:52 <@oddball> uhhh... I think so...
22:53 <@oddball> yeah... /window #
22:53 <@oddball> also, /window right/left.
22:53 <@NotLarry> thanks
22:54 <@NotLarry> fuck, and hour before I leave for work and I have my lunch made and everything. Got take a shower or go play a game of league?
22:55 <@oddball> I think your coworker would prefer the shower.
22:57 <@NotLarry> Titus is going to be my coworker and he won't be in till 7am
22:58 <@NotLarry> I mean, if I cared enough to shower for him I would probably think about him in the shower, thus motivating me to take a shower, but, alas, ikgaf
22:59 <@oddball> heh
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23:19 <@NotLarry> Wow, my paycheck is showing up. I cleared about half what I put on CC to get moved so I should be able to clear pay off my cc again.
23:38 <@SuMo_D> http://www.citeworld.com/consumerization/22803/iron-maiden-musicmetric
23:38 < GateKeeper> Title: How Iron Maiden found its worst music pirates -- then went and played for them | CITEworld (at www.citeworld.com)
23:46 <@oddball> Speaking of which... Apparently newer bluray discs are using a new key that the hack for VLC doesn't know yet.
23:46 <@oddball> Way to go MPAA... making watching legally owned copies of movies more difficult/annoying that pirated copies.
23:53 < RangerZ> well DUH
23:53 < RangerZ> you don't OWN the movie
23:54 < RangerZ> you only have a license to watch it on APPROVED devices ;)
23:54 < RangerZ> which is the fucking bitch of it
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