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00:12 < aestetix> penis
00:18 <@SuMo_D> aestetix what candy crush level are you up to penis monger
00:28 < aestetix> 72
00:35 <@SuMo_D> I just made it to 80... gotta do the 3 day thing
00:35 <@SuMo_D> there's a few real bitchy ones in there
00:36 <@SuMo_D> Dude... I just read a blog about a friend who is trans being told they weren't allowed to take their drivers license picture dressed as a woman... is that legal?
00:40 < aestetix> level 72 is insane
00:42 <@SuMo_D> there's one I think its 76 that is worse
00:43 < aestetix> this is definitely a "are you fucking kidding me?" level
00:43 <@SuMo_D> the one I'm thinking of - there is a bar in the middle
00:43 <@NotLarry> I hate conditioned air
00:44 <@SuMo_D> that you can't get things off of unless you use the special ones, and there are some chocolate creepers
00:44 <@SuMo_D> its nuts
00:45 <@NotLarry> SuMo_D: http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2011/11/transgender-woman-arrested-after-exposing-her-breasts-at-dmv-protest/
00:47 <@SuMo_D> good for her
01:03 < RangerZ> time for deep anti-virus scans, and stuff, bbl
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01:25 <@SuMo_D> aestetix I just went back and looked at 72 - that one is bad... but it gets worse... much worse
01:25 <@SuMo_D> good luck!
01:32 < aestetix> ugh
02:12 < aestetix> Hmmm
02:12 < aestetix> Reading this reddit thread
02:12 < aestetix> I feel like I should get a credit card just for the ability to threaten places with chargebacks
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07:20 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:30 <@Shadow404> what did i miss when i left last night?
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07:59 <@Dolemite> aestetix: I found your Christmas present -> http://doubleclithere.com/
07:59 <@Dolemite> NSFW
07:59 <@Dolemite> Unless you work at Tumblr, that is
08:02 <@Shadow404> yeah, thx for the warning
08:04 < Evilpig_> hey I work there.  lemme look
08:05 < Evilpig_> wow.  just wow.
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08:06 <@Shadow404> thats what mobile internet is for
08:06 <@Shadow404> one sec
08:06 <@Dolemite> wilpig: I think that would look awesome on your work MacBook Air
08:07 <@wilpig> I agree
08:07 <@Shadow404> meh, stupid phone wanting to be restarted....
08:08  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
08:09 <@Shadow404> wait a sec, does it show you how to take the picture??
08:10 <@Shadow404> cause i will totally watch the video then
08:17 <@wilpig> alright.  I've got this as a line in crontab but it didn't run.  anyone spot an error?
08:17 <@wilpig> 55 23 * * * wilbur /usr/bin/pisg/pisg
08:19 <@Dolemite> If it's not standard crontab, 'wilbur' isn't a command
08:20 <@Dolemite> Or rather, if it IS standard crontab
08:20 <@wilpig> bah.  it's in the cronlog too
08:20 <@wilpig> Dec 17 23:55:01 hotbox CROND[18234]: (wilbur) CMD (/usr/bin/pisg/pisg)
08:21 <@wilpig> so it ran.
08:21 <@wilpig> hrmm
08:21 <@wilpig> and the filetimes are correct...
08:22 <@wilpig> the sync didn't run
08:42 <@Bahhumbug> Depends on type of cron entry; that's vaild for /etc/cron.d and /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly} and /etc/crontab entries; invalid for user crontabs (/var/spool/cron/$USER).
09:10 <@wilpig> something failed on the rsync that was in cron.daily
09:14 <@wilpig> bah!
09:14 <@wilpig> Dec 18 04:07:38 hosting run-parts(/etc/cron.daily)[9247]: starting syncirc
09:14 <@wilpig> Dec 18 04:07:39 hosting run-parts(/etc/cron.daily)[10747]: finished syncirc
09:14 <@wilpig> so it ran.  i'll check it tomorrow 
09:14 <@Corydon76-work> wilpig: this is BSD, not Linux, correct?
09:16 <@Corydon76-work> You probably need to feed it a config file, i.e. -co /home/wilbur/pisg.conf
09:16 <@Corydon76-work> On BSD, $HOME is frequently not set from crontab
09:16 <@Corydon76-work> To see what you usually get when running from crontab, try:  env -i /usr/bin/pisg/pisg
09:18 <@wilpig> pisg has the cfg in /usr/bin/pisg/   so I can just run pisg as any user and it will run
09:18 <@wilpig> it was definitely just an issue on the rsync from my irc host to the webserver
09:18 <@wilpig> I'm guessing it had to be a rights problem but I manually ran the rsync and it went fine.  so i'll watch it tonight and if it fails again i'll add in some debugging
09:19 <@Shadow404> what does it sync?
09:19 <@wilpig> logs, the pisg output, the pics, and the pisg_cache
09:20 <@Dickie> wilpig: you have a stat page?
09:21 <@Shadow404> ah, cool
09:21  * wilpig slaps dick
09:21  * wilpig slaps dickie
09:21 <@Dickie> "This Websense category is filtered: Hacking."
09:21 <@Dickie> lol
09:21 <@Dickie> Love that
09:21 <@wilpig> http://www.se2600.org/ircstats/
09:21 < GateKeeper> Title: #se2600 @ Freenode stats by Evilpig (at www.se2600.org)
09:21 <@Dickie> yeah
09:21 <@wilpig> and for whatever reason, i've never added your picture to it, dickie
09:22  * Dickie shrugs
09:22 <@Dickie> Server can't handle the demand, probably
09:22 <@wilpig> that must be it
09:22 <@wilpig> laziness coulnd't be a factor
09:24 <@Dickie> doesn't appear that I'd make it to the chart anyway
09:24 <@wilpig> son of a bitch...  torrent stopped at 99.7%
09:24 <@Dickie> Better amp up the chatter
09:24 <@wilpig> all the seeds disappeared
09:24 <@Dickie> So, airline food. Am... am I right?
09:25 <@wilpig> you're on the year and down lists
09:25 <@wilpig> the over all has nearly 5 years worth of data in it
09:27 <@Corydon76-work> Yesterday, I was in the office, again.  Today, I am reminded why I don't work in the office:  I caught a cold.
09:28 <@rattle> Last night when I returned home, I had to dig a place to park.
09:28 <@Dickie> http://i.imgur.com/7Iy36qJ.jpg
09:28 <@Dickie> there
09:28 <@wilpig> that just scared me.  i peed a little
09:29 <@Shadow404> heh, ware is still #2 most active in the stats
09:29 <@Corydon76-work> That turned me on...a little
09:29 <@Shadow404> and then coil, havent seen those two names for a while
09:30 <@wilpig> skydick is still on there and he hasn't been on channel in over two years
09:30 <@Dickie> pouipoui, too
09:31 <@Dickie> didn't know he was in here before
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09:35 <@Corydon76-work> If the stats could downrank "rants" into a single line... i.e. where somebody sat and spouted for 20 lines, with no responses, I think a few, like Mercster and ware, would drop way the fuck off
09:35 <@Shadow404> but yeah, we really shouldnt make fun of SuMo_D like that
09:35 <@wilpig> ware would come in and talk to himself for hours
09:35 <@SuMo_D> ?
09:35 <@wilpig> ?^
09:35 <@Corydon76-work> Talking about IRC stats
09:36 <@Shadow404> ware used to fill a whole page
09:36 <@Shadow404> it was kind of funny to read through, but he was just messing with the stats on purpose
09:36 <@Dolemite> SuMo_D: Pay no attention to the retard.
09:36  * Shadow404 puts on his bright yellow helmet again
09:37  * SuMo_D isn't used to this thing called morning and barely awake and thoroughly confused
09:37 <@SuMo_D> power metal helps everything though...
09:39 <@Corydon76-work> wilpig: baudburn came in more recently, with a new name, though
09:39 <@wilpig> yeah but I can't remember what he was hiding as 
09:40 <@wilpig> i'm rerunning stats now getting the aliases that I missed in the previous runs
09:40 <@Corydon76-work> _specialk_
09:40 <@wilpig> k  i'll snag it
09:45 <@SuMo_D> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM4CDLmDx_Y
09:45 < GateKeeper> Title: Iced Earth - "Ten Thousand Strong" SPV Records - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
09:46 <@wilpig> fuck a duck...
09:46 <@wilpig> I'm gonna end up having to give the tour today
09:46 <@SuMo_D> make sure you play that as your soundtrack in your head
09:47 <@wilpig> that cleaned up the extra names a hair
09:49 <@wilpig> Shadow404_HateMi ?
09:51 <@Dagmar> just... don't try not to fuck any ducks you come across *during* the tour
09:51 <@Dagmar> er something
09:51 <@Dagmar> I'm still not quite awake yet
09:52 <@Shadow404> wilpig: i think that was part of a running joke one day
09:52 <@wilpig> better advice would be, don't touch the shiny ground rod up on the solar plant
09:52 <@Dagmar> The tour will probably be remarkably improved by a lack of bestiality, I'm sure
09:52 <@SuMo_D> This needs to be an alarm clock... of some sort https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCUnhoe0rpU
09:52 < GateKeeper> Title: Dethklok- Awaken (MustaKrakish) {FULL OFFICAL MUSIC VIDEO} - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
09:52 <@wilpig> heh.  dethklok
09:52 <@wilpig> that's them awakening the beast in the lake right?
09:53 <@wilpig> [wilbur@hosting irclogs]$ grep Shadow404_HateMi Freenode/#se2600.2013-1*
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09:55 <@Shadow404> hrmm, so i did that on join
09:55 <@SuMo_D> yes, which then probably needs some fintroll to follow it up
09:55 <@Shadow404> hrmm, pulll the log for that timestamp
09:55 <@Shadow404> i think it was when i got kicked
09:55 <@Shadow404> during one of those wars
09:56 <@Shadow404> i used alt on my phone app, before i started using screen
09:56 <@wilpig> all cleaned up
09:57 <@Shadow404> also...i need to give you a newer picture, that one is like 7 years old at the gun shoot from like pn 9
09:57 <@wilpig> eryc is stinking up the front page with now picture.  ass.
09:57 <@wilpig> s/now/no/
09:59 <@Shadow404> oh...that ip is my current work
09:59 <@Shadow404> i totally dont remember that
10:02 <@Dagmar> Wow.
10:02 <@Dagmar> That kid is just not Harvard material
10:03 <@benthemeek> aestetix: You read the backlog on the discussion yesterday?
10:05 < aestetix> A bit of it.
10:06 < aestetix> benthemeek: I stopped reading when the Noisebridge stuff came up :)
10:07 <@Shadow404> so i need to get a surge protector for my flat screen, but the clearance between the wall and the back of the tv (wall mounted) is only like 3 1/2 inches, and all i need is one outplug.....I found a few electrical outlets with surge protectors built into them, should i trust this or go with a slimline external surge protector?
10:07 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig: How come I'm listed as Gerdesas_ in the stats?  Next time you're poking around can you drop the tail on that?
10:07 <@wilpig> lemme hit it now.  It has you as that cause you were first in the log as that?
10:08 <@wilpig> it does some basic nick tracking but it isn't perfect
10:08 <@Shadow404> user like script....
10:08 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: Sounds like you're buying cheap.  This is ALWAYS a YMMV scenario.
10:09 <@Bahhumbug> Odd.
10:09 <@Dagmar> If the outlet cost a ton, it might be more than just a GFCI
10:09 <@Dagmar> ...but you should be able to tell how much more than a GFCI from looking at it
10:10 <@Dagmar> Id' start with the outlet-based solution for that reason, actually.  It's hard as fuck to see what's inside the stupid slimline plug things without opening them
10:10 <@Shadow404> ymmv?
10:10 <@Shadow404> i havent bought yet
10:10 <@Shadow404> i need some suggestions
10:11 <@Shadow404> i had to get the control board replaced cause it got fried last strom
10:11 <@Shadow404> cause i didnt get a chance to get a surge protector for it
10:11 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: regenning now
10:11 <@Dagmar> Your MIleage May Vary
10:12 <@Dagmar> ...as in "there's no telling what the fuck will happen"
10:12 <@wilpig> takes a few minutes cause I have to clear the cache after I adjust the aliases
10:12 <@Dagmar> I generally just say "fuck it" and buy an APC UPS which makes various promises about lightning stikes on the box
10:12 <@Shadow404> yeah.....thats what most of them do
10:12 <@Dagmar> On sale, this can be in the neighborhood of $40
10:13 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: i can say, APC was on the same circuit as the tv, but tv wasnt on the ups
10:13 <@Shadow404> and it protected my compter, while the tv got fried
10:13  * Dagmar gives you a look
10:13 <@Dagmar> Well, at least you didn't have the two connected by a USB cable or somethign
10:13 <@Shadow404> nope
10:14 <@Shadow404> fortunately the network cable  from the shared hub was gong through the ups too
10:14 <@Shadow404> whew
10:14 <@Shadow404> cause it fried my router/modem and google box
10:14 <@Shadow404> cause i was still in the process of running wiring behind the wall and mantle
10:14 <@Shadow404> just bad timing
10:15 <@Shadow404> everything except the ps3 was covered by warranty, though was a pain in the ass to do all the rma's and tracking
10:16 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: hate to trouble you further, but mind sending me a link for what i should be looking for?
10:19 <@Dagmar> Honestly, man, I just go to CompUSA (or used to) or Best Buy, walk to the section with the cheap UPSes, and look for something with a picture of lightning on the box
10:19 <@Dagmar> No shit
10:19 <@Dagmar> Once a battery is involved, lightning protection is generally a given
10:20 <@Dagmar> ...cuz riding out needing to ignore the incoming power for 3s is not that hard
10:20 <@Dagmar> ...but there's a lot of shit out there that calls itself a 'surge suppressor' that turns out to just have a little coil in it somewhere, and a GFCI breaker
10:20 <@Dagmar> ...and that's _all_
10:21 <@Dagmar> ...which stops fuck all.
10:21 <@Dagmar> After the surge from lightning or whatever, the little coil inside will be scorched and they'll go "Oh well, looks like it couldn't handle it"
10:22 <@Shadow404> so this is BADDD: http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-5280-W-Suppressor-Receptacle-Industrial/dp/B0006I33Y6/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1387378920&sr=8-9&keywords=wall+outlet+surge+protector
10:22 <@Shadow404> in that case
10:24 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: you're fixed
10:25 <@Dagmar> Hmm... "Four 18-millimeter MOVs provide an energy absorption rating of 720 Joules, making the 5280 powerful and reliable."
10:25 <@Dagmar> 720 joules is not very much
10:26 <@Shadow404> yeah, thats what scared me
10:26 <@Dagmar> You're likely better served by purchasing a UPS that makes a replacement guarantee
10:27 <@wilpig> crap.  I left the ear plugs down in the dc.
10:27 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking if you walked across the room wearing a sweater with a cat in each hand you might be able to overload that one
10:27 <@wilpig> guess i'll take a scooter quickly
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10:30 <@wilpig> where's the fourth scooter?  bah!
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10:34 < aestetix> vagina
10:38 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig: Thanks :)
10:39 <@wilpig> power just went out.  this can't be good
10:40 <@Dagmar> Well, look on the bright side
10:41 <@Dagmar> You're not in NYC, so you don't have to worry about the cannibalism that sets in after the power has been off for eight minutes
10:41 <@Bahhumbug> Shadow404: fuck "surge supressors"; I second what Dagmar is telling you, go get a low-end APC and be sure and register it for warranty coverage.
10:44 <@wilpig> they are apparently doing generator testing at the dc today and the staging area isn't on the interim power
10:50 <@Shadow404> Bahhumbug: yeah, but finding a low end apc that can fit in a 3 1/2 inch space behind the tv and wall, + plug
10:50 <@Shadow404> thats the hard part
10:50 <@wilpig> Please be advised that the NJ1 Datacenter is experiencing electrical utility anomalies and has transferred to generator power. The Critical Load is designed to remain protected and on-line during such outages. However, site lighting, house power and mechanical systems may be temporarily affected.
10:59 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: http://www.amazon.com/Monster-FlatScreen-PowerCenterTM-SuperThinTM-PowerTM/dp/B003X1PIZU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1387382343&sr=8-3&keywords=slim+surge+protector
10:59 <@Shadow404> thoughts?
11:05 <@Dolemite> wilpig: So do you have to go brush the snow off of the solar panels?
11:05 <@wilpig> maybe.  i'll let you know in a sec
11:05 <@Shadow404> nm, it looks like it doesnt have a ground prong
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11:09 <@Shadow404> speaking of carrots...
11:09 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: this has a 100k warranty: http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SPP5025A-37-Theater-Protector/dp/B0052606II/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1387382343&sr=8-5&keywords=slim+surge+protector
11:09 <@Shadow404> 1k joules
11:14 <@Dagmar> Then it'll probably do
11:21 <@wilpig> http://t.co/8zUqc1i7Hk
11:21 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / Wilpig: More cool swag from work. #tumblr ... (at t.co)
11:24 <@Dolemite> That's to wear while you're up on the roof with a shop broom, trying to get the snow off of the solar panels
11:24 <@wilpig> i'll keep that in mind
11:25 <@rattle> I find it incredibly frustrating when you go to download an update for software that costs tens of thousands of dollars from a major software company, and it comes down at less than 100k/sec.  Seriously.  I know you can afford bandwidth.  wtf.
11:25 <@wilpig> but rattle.  you can only get gobs of down pipe, not up.  nobody needs up
11:25 <@Dolemite> Only pirates need upstream
11:25 <@wilpig> that's why comcrap can get away with 100Mb/25Kbs service packages
11:26 <@Dolemite> Heh, my new service at the house is going to be 50 Mbps/20 Mbps
11:26 <@Shadow404> PIRATE!
11:26 <@Dolemite> What's your speed, wilpig?
11:26 <@Shadow404> How long is yours wilpig?
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11:26 <@wilpig> i'm at 50Mb/25Mb
11:27 <@Dolemite> Cool, so roughly the same
11:27 <@Dolemite> But we have enough down to saturate each other's links.  heh.
11:27 <@rattle> Once you're over 25Mbit, it starts to cease mattering unless you've got like ten people living with you.
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11:27 <@wilpig> fuck
11:28 <@wilpig> one of the tour group people doesn't have valid id
11:28 <@Dagmar> THEY'RE A SPY!  QUICK!  HIT THE ALARMS!
11:28 <@wilpig> she is a foreigner
11:28 <@Dolemite> Throw them out!
11:29 <@wilpig> she's kinda cute...
11:29 <@Dolemite> Is she hot?
11:29 <@Dagmar> DEFINITELY A SPY AND A TERRURIST!
11:29 <@Dolemite> Because if so, it's ok
11:29 <@wilpig> at least they got here late so when the lunch dude doesn't show up til 12:30 it'll be cool
11:29 <@Dolemite> I hear those foreign chicks don't mind having sex in uncomfortable places
11:29 <@wilpig> w00t!  I love tour days.  I don't have to make or buy dinner tonight
11:30 <@Dolemite> Like the back of a Volkswagen
11:30 <@wilpig> Dolemite: like the ... son of a bitch!
11:30 <@eryc> whats this tour wilpig?
11:30 <@wilpig> eryc: i'll tell you for a headshot.  you motherfucker...
11:30  * wilpig shakes his fist at eryc 
11:31 <@eryc> lol
11:31 <@wilpig> every two weeks they are bringing up to 10 people from the NYC office down to the DC so they have a better understanding of how the place operates
11:31 <@eryc> ahh
11:32 <@Dagmar> You need a stake with a pig's head on it
11:32 <@eryc> i had pictured random people wanting to get tours.. i'm like who does that
11:32 <@Dagmar> Tell them that when someone there needs to communicate something to everyone else, they take up the pig's head, hold it over their heads, and yell
11:32 <@Dagmar> No one's going to question it
11:33 <@Dagmar> "Why a pig's head?" "It keeps people from yelling all day"
11:34 <@Shadow404> yah, its in he ISO, if "shes" cute, its ok not to have ID
11:34 <@Shadow404> as long as she promises shes over 18
11:36 <@wilpig> well hell
11:36 <@wilpig> out of the 10 people that were supposed to be on the tour we have 4
11:37 <@wilpig> at least this time we have scooters for all of them
11:38 <@Shadow404> do they come with fancy flashing helmets?
11:38 <@Shadow404> and arm and knee pads?
11:38 <@wilpig> neither
11:39 <@Dagmar> Well...
11:39 <@Dagmar> For whatever reason, the old ITS dress policy has been made our dress policy
11:40 <@Dagmar> ...and Steve fell into the same trap the idiots in ITS have done, where they *say* the dress code forbids jeans, but actually they are NOT mentioned at all, with the exception of a mention of "low-hanging jeans"
11:40 <@wilpig> you get to wear a dress now?
11:40 <@Dagmar> I'm just waiting for Ham to notice that, because he'll wear a thong just to demonstrate the principle
11:42 <@Shadow404> id go skyclad to make my point
11:56 <@Dolemite> I could see Ham free balling it in a Catholic school girl skirt.  I just don't want to actually *see* it.
11:57 <@wilpig> that is am image i'm not going to be able to forget easily
11:57  * Shadow404 hands wilpig the brain bleach
11:57 <@wilpig> because ham couldn't leave it at just telling people he was free balling
11:58 <@Dolemite> He'd likely stay up all night stretching them so that they'd hang extra low
11:59 <@Shadow404> they have devices for that
12:00 <@Dolemite> Shadow404: What was it like the first time your partner let you use it on him?
12:00 <@Shadow404> huh?
12:00 <@Shadow404> im confused on your context
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12:02 < ware> huh wat
12:03 <@Shadow404> speak of the devil
12:03 <@wilpig> well fuck.  who summoned it
12:03 <@Shadow404> not me
12:03 <@wilpig> I told y'all to stop mentioning him.  next that other name is gonna show up
12:03 <@Corydon76-work> Dolemite was talking about you stretching ware's balls.  That must've done it.
12:03 <@Shadow404> skydick?
12:03 <@wilpig> nah
12:04 < ware> business as usual i see
12:04 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: the part that confuses is why she knows ware to begin with
12:04 <@wilpig> here you go ware. http://t.co/8zUqc1i7Hk
12:04 <@NotLarry> nothing changes, nothing stays the same
12:04 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / Wilpig: More cool swag from work. #tumblr ... (at t.co)
12:05 < ware> you work at tumblr ?
12:05 < ware> i dont geddit
12:05 <@wilpig> damn right I do
12:05 <@Dagmar> Yes, he works at Tumblr now
12:05 <@Corydon76-work> I found your Tumblr, ware:  http://silvercollection.tumblr.com/
12:05 < GateKeeper> Title: The Silver Collection (at silvercollection.tumblr.com)
12:05 <@wilpig> fuck you.  not falling for that again
12:05 < ware> mom?
12:05 <@wilpig> it's still NSFW even if it is on the work site
12:06 <@NotLarry> you got clarification on that?
12:06 <@Dagmar> It's not something he wants to see in the first place
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12:06 <@NotLarry> wilpig: was the woman from med center ruling the help desk before you left?
12:06 <@wilpig> which one?
12:07 <@Shadow404> ware: we only hear abotu tumblr every day
12:07 <@wilpig> I don't think any of the ones I dealt with were in charge over there when I left
12:08 <@NotLarry> Well, she is getting them a 40" monitor for watching call status, etc and wanted to know how to keep them from hooking an xbox to it or downloading games to it.  We explained how it is university policy to allow people to play games on vanderbilt computers.
12:08 <@wilpig> NotLarry: I dealt with lisa and undretta over there the most
12:09 <@NotLarry> I don't recall her name, but she came from med center side and she is trying to impose med center policy and behaviour on student help de4sk workers.  This does not look like a good idea.
12:09 <@Dagmar> Just tell her to cover the back of it in duct tapae
12:09 <@NotLarry> fm, was running my mouth in here and missed champion select.
12:10 <@Dagmar> ...or stop hiring fucking children
12:10 <@Dolemite> Oh, damn.  I thought you were talking about the 40" monitor going in at the VUH help desk.
12:10 <@NotLarry> I told her a dab of superglue will stop them from plugging anything in.
12:10 <@benthemeek> I was looking over wilpig's stats gathering site... Can I just say it is a sad state of affairs when 2girls1cup is the 9th most popular url on here *smh*
12:10 <@Dolemite> Recess that mother fucker into the wall.  Just pick a brand that will never fail for at least 5 years.
12:11 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: We're not a linkpasting bunch of people really
12:11 <@wilpig> haha
12:11 <@NotLarry> Rafiq is gone for new baby.  I think I will be moving to midnight to noon:|
12:11 <@wilpig> Dagmar: we paste a shitload of links.  just not the same one multiple times over
12:11 <@NotLarry> Dolemite: but we know how expensive that will be, to imbed it.
12:11 <@Dolemite> NotLarry: Not unless you can get that M-F gig
12:12 <@NotLarry> Well, I'm having to work every day (night) for the moment, so still trying to work up a way to approach that.
12:12 <@Dolemite> NotLarry: She could pay for the carpentry work with the tears of all the student helpdesk employees
12:12 <@NotLarry> I guess hanging out here and playing league for a couple of h ours tonight
12:12 <@wilpig> lunch should be here shortly
12:13 <@Dolemite> woohoo!  Performance bonus!
12:13 <@wilpig> Dolemite: what are you performing?
12:13 <@Dolemite> The illusion is still strong with me.  muahahahahaha.
12:13 <@NotLarry> 1 minute 46
12:13 <@Dolemite> wilpig: It's a one man show, pretending to keep a data center from falling apart.
12:14 <@wilpig> that sounds like a really shitty show
12:14 <@Dolemite> You'd think
12:14 <@Dolemite> But there's no accounting for taste with the government
12:14 <@NotLarry> Which part are you pretending?  That it needs to be kept from it or that it isn't falling apart?
12:14 <@wilpig> at least tyson's one man show was funny and he talked about fuckin' bitches
12:15 <@Dolemite> NotLarry: That it's not falling apart faster than it appears to be
12:15 <@NotLarry> ok, in queue
12:16 <@Dolemite> I've adapted to government mindset, though.  I can now make the following pitch with a straight face:  "It's going to cost us at least $2M to fix these problems in the data center, but for only $23M we can build a whole new one!"
12:16 <@Dolemite> "Great idea, Dolemite!  Have a bonus!"
12:17 <@NotLarry> *sigh*
12:18 <@wilpig> NotLarry: can the attitude mr
12:18 <@NotLarry> what?
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12:22 <@Corydon76-work> Christmas just came early:  Justin Bieber just announced his retirement.
12:23 <@Dagmar> I'll believe it when it's not on Snopes
12:23 <@oddball> Oh? Is he still a thing? I have managed to succede in avoiding him.
12:23 <@wilpig> neat idea.  http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/18/avegant-glyph/#continued
12:23 < GateKeeper> Title: Glyph is a high-res wearable display headed to Kickstarter for $499 (at www.engadget.com)
12:23 <@Corydon76-work> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/christmas-comes-early-justin-bieber-announces-retirement-from-music-9012243.html
12:24 <@oddball> Hell... Pretty sure that if it wasn't for the couple bone headed things that he's done that's caused national "outrage," I wouldn't know who the hell he was.
12:24 <@Corydon76-work> Sure, you would, because of that insane earworm a couple years ago: "Baby Baby Baby"
12:25 <@Corydon76-work> Same thing for Hanson and "Mmm Bop"
12:25 <@Dagmar> If you didn't know who he was, how could you have fantasies about killing him and skinning him?
12:25 <@wilpig> i know not of this baby baby baby
12:25 <@wilpig> I know he was fuckin' selina gomez
12:25 <@Corydon76-work> Donny Osmond and "Puppy Love"
12:25 <@Dolemite> Yeah, same here.  Can't even whistle the tune for baby^3
12:26 <@oddball> Corydon76-work: Managed not to hear it.
12:26 <@Corydon76-work> Or you've managed to forget it
12:26 <@Corydon76-work> I won't infect you with it.
12:27 <@oddball> I remember everyone writing about how terrible it was... and then linking to a youtube of it.  Do you know what I do when you say "this is terrible!  listen to how terrible it is?"  I don't listen to it.
12:27 <@Dolemite> The only Bieber nightmare I've ever seen/heard more than 5 seconds of was his Pop-n-Lock Crimmus he did a few years back, mainly because it was such a train wreck it was comical.
12:27 <@Corydon76-work> Weird Al incorporated it into one of his polkas
12:28 <@wilpig> yup uhhh still haven't heard that either
12:28 <@Dagmar> He has no self respect
12:28 <@Corydon76-work> It's a line in "Polka Face"
12:28 <@wilpig> okay I might hvae to call the lunch place
12:28 <@oddball> Ah... then I've heard exactly that much of the song... most probably done by someone with much more talent.
12:28 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: who, Bieber or Weird Al?
12:28 <@wilpig> either?
12:28 <@wilpig> both
12:28 <@Dagmar> Beiber
12:29 <@Corydon76-work> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRJILK3NxSM
12:29 < GateKeeper> Title: "Weird Al" Yankovic - Polka Face - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:36 <@benthemeek> Corydon: that was quite enjoyable
12:37 <@benthemeek> espeacilly since I have heard all those songs ad nausem from the kids bop music that my kids consume
12:43 <@Dagmar> I prefer to think of it as 'ad murderem'.
12:49 <@Dolemite> Isn't Beiber one of those kid stars that originally got famous for letting a rapper pee on him?
12:50 <@Dagmar> Well, not publicly
12:53 <@Dagmar> If some rapper tried to I don't think there's a lot he could really *do* about it
12:53 <@Dagmar> ...other than maybe pout.
12:53 <@Dagmar> I really and truly would like to beat some stoicism into him
12:54 <@Dagmar> I saw a couple of his videos on YouTube and paid attention to the lyrics.
12:54 <@Dagmar> Some of you talk about _girls_ with low self esteem... That Beiber kid has *deep seated* emotional issues
12:55 <@Dagmar> I doubt compulsive white-knighters would be be able to stand him
12:56 <@Dagmar> I mean, take a moment today to close your eyes, picture Justin Beiber and a screwdriver in your hand.  Now picture yourself repeatedly stabbing Justin Beiber deeply in the torso with the screwdriver.
12:56 <@Dagmar> It's *astonishing* how *right* that feels
12:56 <@Dolemite> Oh, man, I think I'm going to come
12:56 <@Dolemite> That feel *so* right
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13:22 <@Dagmar> Not *nearly* as much fun as the feel of a metal shaft stabbing meat
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13:36 <@NotLarry> "If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing"
13:36 <@NotLarry> damn, I got to log onto facebook now.
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13:41 <@Shadow404> thats awesome
13:49 <@Shadow404> and it goes quiet.....
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13:51 <@Shadow404> heh
13:54 <@Dagmar> Mortvert: If these people didn't sell all that already, they definnitely need a shrink for *something*
13:55 <@Dagmar> doh.  Wrong channel.  That was in reference to https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbyLH_iIIAExA7M.png
14:03 <@Dagmar> Anyone need a wireless router for cheap?
14:04 <@Dagmar> that wirelessoemshop.com place I order all my bluetooth toys from has netgear wgr614's for $7.50 right now
14:07 <@Shadow404> reliable, but not many features, i think thats a fair price
14:07 <@Dagmar> heh 10ft apple Lightning cables for $2
14:07 <@Dagmar> That's the model I'm using at home presently.  Works fine
14:14 <@Dagmar> http://www.wirelessoemshop.com/servlet/the-1693/Netgear-Wireless-G-Router/Detail
14:14 < GateKeeper> Title: Netgear Wireless G Router wgr614 (at www.wirelessoemshop.com)
14:14 <@Dagmar> I've bought about a dozen things from them over the past three years, so they're not exactly a fly-by-night
14:14 <@Dagmar> THey just have a pretty featureless website
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14:18 <@Shadow404> sometimes those are the best vendors
14:20 <@Shadow404> so i managed to incur the android equivalant of the bsod when i was running the media wires for the tv wall mount last night and dropped the google box on the floor by accident
14:20 <@Shadow404> it went to a blue safe mode screen with options for reboot normally, reboot without or without networking and reboot to safe mode or restore manufaturer settings
14:20 <@Shadow404> fortunately it booted righ back up on a power cycle
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14:59 <@NotLarry> fk
14:59 <@NotLarry> Just clicked on dickie's link
14:59 <@wilpig> which link was that?
14:59 <@NotLarry> http://i.imgur.com/7Iy36qJ.jpg
14:59 <@NotLarry> it is my new desktop:)
14:59 <@wilpig> damnit
15:05 < v4mp> http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/failing-grade-alleged-harvard-bomb-hoaxer-needed-more-tor-cover-2D11767028
15:05 < GateKeeper> Title: Failing grade: Alleged Harvard bomb hoaxer needed more than Tor to cover his tracks, experts say - NBC News.com (at www.nbcnews.com)
15:14 <@rattle> nelson-haha.com
15:15 <@Dickie> You're welcome
15:15 <@wilpig> dickie where do I send the therapy bills?
15:17 <@opticron> the rapey bills can be sent directly to Dickie's residence
15:21 <@Dagmar> I am a fucking genius.
15:24 <@wilpig> anyone ever seen this before on a dell?
15:24 <@wilpig> SC FW Status: Management Subsystem Health sensor, controller access degraded or unavailable was asserted
15:24 <@Dagmar> So last year I had no clue about christmas gift ideas, so I gave my parents and brother some sizeable gift cards.
15:24 <@Dagmar> They complained this was _too much money_.
15:24 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Nope.
15:24 <@Dagmar> I just talked to PetSmart, and they will actually sell me a couple of the temporary cardboard pet carriers.
15:25 <@Dagmar> Considering my parents already have two dogs, and my brother has two dogs and a cat, whatever I put in those pet carriers that is NOT an animal should be well recieved indeed.
15:25 <@Dolemite> Later, kids
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15:25 <@wilpig> I bet you can fit a small child in one
15:25 <@wilpig> that'd really surprise them
15:28 <@rattle> I wonder when the first person is going to jump out of a window because of bitcoin.
15:29 <@Dagmar> It won't matter if they do because Fox will blame violent video games.
15:31 <@Shadow404> yep, it was the new call of duty
15:31 <@Shadow404> he learned from the advertisement with the atv going out the window
15:32 <@Dagmar> I should fire up GTAV again and see if RockStar has my freakin' money ready yet
15:39 <@Mirage> NotLarry: So, did they get the Nagios sounds fixed?
15:40 <@wilpig> nevar!
15:40 <@Dagmar> Titus is telling me it's something with the machine driving the big display because he's getting sounds on his desktop just fine.
15:41 <@Mirage> Dagmar: so they didn't "accidentally" patch nagios and break it afterall?
15:41 <@Dagmar> No, thankfully
15:42 <@wilpig> Dagmar: you have to use IE for sounds now
15:42 <@wilpig> only IE
15:42 <@wilpig> firefox crashes out the quicktime plugin trying to play the sounds and chrome is just useless with it
15:42 <@wilpig> IE, which is normally useless will use windows media player for the audibles
15:42 <@Dagmar> That's a thing we could probably remedy with some HTML5 widgetry
15:43 <@wilpig> probably
15:43 <@Dagmar> ...but... NOT MY FUCKIN' PROBLEM ANYMORE WHOOHOO
15:43 <@Dagmar> Ya'll could probably install VLC on the machines and tell it to handle that media type
15:43 <@wilpig> nope
15:43 <@wilpig> tried it
15:43 <@Dagmar> The browser *should* be able to handle those audio types directly.  It's just quicktime that's a fucker about it
15:44 <@wilpig> right.  and I removed quicktime and used alternates, etc.  nothign worked it was a kick in the dick
15:45 <@Dagmar> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/Using_HTML5_audio_and_video
15:45 < GateKeeper> Title: Using HTML5 audio and video - Web developer guide | MDN (at developer.mozilla.org)
15:45 <@wilpig> I had even looked at using a userscript to snag the elements then rewrite them on the fly to avoid the error but even then I was getting some stupid issues with it
15:45 <@Dagmar> It would be a relatively simple patch to tac.cgi's source to convert from the old method to a newer, more compatible one.
15:47 <@wilpig> at the same time that we lost the audibles, was when chrome made the change so that it could only display like 12 images simultaneously
15:47 <@wilpig> which broke the camera page
15:48 <@wilpig> or maybe it was 8. it was less than the number of cameras and that was all that mattered
15:48 <@Dagmar> I think using an HTML5 widget instead of the old type would probably work fine
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16:02 <@Dickie> need a media player for android that plays wav
16:02 <@Dickie> suggestions?
16:04 <@wilpig> the regular one doesn't?
16:04 <@wilpig> mxplayer is what I use for most stuff
16:04 <@Dickie> my options are amazon mp3 and google play
16:05 <@wilpig> mx player should.  I think root explorer has a built in one as well
16:05 <@wilpig> err es file explorer
16:05 <@Dickie> thanks
16:05 <@wilpig> that one's free
16:17 <@Dagmar> Apollo
16:22 <@Dagmar> Apollo should be able to do it, and it's the "does everything" player that tries to do the things Google Play does, but for Cyanogenmod
16:28 <@Dagmar> oh dear god
16:28 <@Dagmar> The Winter Steam Sale will soon be here
16:28 <@Shadow404> woot woot
16:31 <@wilpig> http://kotaku.com/motion-controlled-anime-boobs-exist-sigh-1484803234
16:33 <@Dagmar> Yep.
16:56 <@Dagmar> I thought the VR handshake simulator was pretty funny, actually
17:20 <@Dagmar> Woot has been outdone on the descriptions http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/household/miscellaneous/grasshopper-vaporizer-pen.asp
17:20 < GateKeeper> Title: Grasshopper Vaporizer Pen | DudeIWantThat.com (at www.dudeiwantthat.com)
17:29 <@Dagmar> oddball: Despair, for these can render a home inhabitable forever http://www.amazon.com/s?k=Impact+Tornado+Airsoft+Grenade&tag=duiwath-20
17:29 <@Dagmar> er uninhabitable
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18:07 <@sasquatc4> meh, past couple steam sales steam couldnt lay a finger on amazon, gmg, GG
18:07 <@sasquatc4> then again all the free gaben bucks this time around make it a little worthwhile since it reduces the prices further
18:30 <@wilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtelgRzc3IU
18:30 < GateKeeper> Title: Hyrule Warriors (Wii U) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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18:54 <@benthemeek> wilpig: O.o That looks great
18:59 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig: oddball: http://stuff.gerdesas.com/images/bieber_gets_it.gif
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19:36 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.angryduck.com/pics/group_projects7178.htm
19:36 < GateKeeper> Title: group projects (at www.angryduck.com)
19:55 <@wilpig> why do I watch these conspiracy shows?
19:56 <@Bahhumbug> Boredom?
19:56 <@wilpig> probably
19:56 <@wilpig> watching this america declassified show now
20:04 <@wilpig> OMG why can't I go into the room marked "high voltage.  utility tunnel" ?!
20:04 <@wilpig> it's a utility tunnel, bitch.
20:06 < aestetix> penis
20:06 <@wilpig> no aestetix, you don't store penis in a utility tunnel.
20:06 <@wilpig> that's another kind of tunnel
20:06 < aestetix> lol
20:07 <@wilpig> brought my new hoodie home and the assholes just about immediately climbed onto it
20:08 <@wilpig> oh this is great.  now they're going after the "runway like areas" at the white sands weapon testing facility
20:11 <@wilpig> that's kinda neat that they allow the public into the trinity site twice a year and they roll out a replica of little boy
20:13 < aestetix> the assholes?
20:14 <@wilpig> yup
20:14 <@wilpig> the two I live with
20:37 <@wilpig> the theaters are catching on.  http://www.fandango.com/anchorman2superticket
20:38 <@wilpig> this is the second "superticket" i've seen this month
20:38 <@wilpig> they just need to lower the price a hair and drop the drm and BAM, profit
20:39 <@wilpig> but at least thye are realizing they can sell the digital version of the movie with the ticket.  even better they had an ad about upgrading your ticket after the movie to the superticket which makes even more sense.  
20:40 <@wilpig> watch the movie and like it, then go back to the box office and get a digital version of it to watch again for a small fee.  fuck yeah!
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20:56 <@Dagmar> Yes, they're greedy but not *completely* stupid
21:05 <@wilpig> that wouldn't be stupid.
21:05 <@wilpig> that would make legitimate sales go up
21:06 <@wilpig> I would give them $5 for a digital version that was drm restricted.  i'd pay 15 - 20 for no drm
21:06 <@Dagmar> DRM isn't about copyright.
21:06 <@wilpig> nope.  it's about control to the content
21:06 <@Dagmar> DRM is about collecting money from the distribution channel and controlling copyright long after it expires
21:07 <@oddball> mother fucker!  I had two of those brand fucking new drives fail on me.
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21:07 <@Dagmar> 'cuz whether or not it falls into the PUblic Domain doesn't even matter if no one has an unencumbered copy of the work
21:07 <@wilpig> that sucks.
21:07 <@Dagmar> oddball: Seagate?
21:08 <@wilpig> at least they failed right out of the gate
21:08 <@oddball> wait... now it says one is going fine, but I can't access the array.
21:08 <@oddball> Dagmar: yep
21:08 <@Dagmar> EUw.  Go get their diagnostic tool and run it against the drives then
21:08 <@Dagmar> 'cuz _sometimes_ you're looking at a firmware fuckup that can be flashed over
21:09 <@Dagmar> ...and it'll generally say so if that's the case
21:09 <@oddball> Really.... ok... thanks. I'll check that.
21:09 <@Dagmar> You may remember I had *three* of their drives of various sizes, all affected by the same bug
21:09 <@Dagmar> It's SMART log would overwrite the p-list and g-list
21:09 <@Dagmar> ...which would make the firmware think teh disk was just fucking ruined.
21:10 <@Dagmar> ...and if it had already begun overwriting the list, you were fairly fucked.
21:10 <@Dagmar> So, you could actually have it *pass* SMART tests, but since they couldn't trust the p-list and g-list, the diagnostic tool would actually even pass all the tests, but based on the _serial number alone_ issue you an RMA number immediately
21:12 <@Dagmar> A *bunch* of people got pissed off at them for that, because it was going on for over a year, and six months into it their diags tool started immediately and mysteriously calling foul on drives
21:12 <@Dagmar> ...and Seagate was refusing to publicly admit there was a problem
21:12 <@wilpig> I may need to find a chiropractor up here.  damnit
21:12 <@Dagmar> Hey cool I can now stream gameplay from my PC to Twitch like I'm a PS4 user thanks to the latest nVidia drivers
21:13 <@wilpig> I just noticed that
21:13 <@wilpig> but I don't have a video card to do it, and my processor isn't fast enough
21:13 <@oddball> This is one of those that if I call them for an RMA and the give me anything less than "yes sir.  sorry sir.  Here's a label to return it and we'll go ahead and send you another," I'm going to start torching buildings.
21:13 <@Dagmar> heh
21:13 <@Dagmar> Yeah the first one fo the three that started failing for me was the fuckign 500Gb drive that was my _main Linux devel drive_
21:14 <@wilpig> FIRE!!! 
21:14 <@Dagmar> I was backing that shit up over to a 1.5Tb drive (which had the same problem but it hadn't manifested yet) while the  500Gb was making noises like a little kid chewing jawbreakers
21:14 <@wilpig> I ran my drives through a pretty good burnin test after I got them
21:14 <@Dagmar> This wasn't something that would manifest until the drive had done a significant number of self checks
21:15 <@Dagmar> ...cuz it was the SMART log that was eventually writing past it's end and buttfucking the reallocated sectors list
21:15 <@oddball> Fortunately, I didn't delete any of the shit that I copied over to it... so I'm just missing a few bittorrent files.  Naienko on the other hand...
21:15 <@Dagmar> Like, if you were lucky, you would suddenly notice the drive reporting a jillion remapped sectors
21:16 <@Dagmar> Mind you none had *actually* been remapped yet, so the drive would get super quirky about it when it started affecting the allcation map, at which point it would be going "Oh fuck, we can't rewrite there, it's supposed to be bad.  We need to put it somewhere else"
21:17 <@Dagmar> *cylinderswitch*cylinderswitch*cylinderswitch*cylinderswitch*
21:20 <@wilpig> neat.  scan in a skull from an archaeologic dig then use a computer to build the missing bits, finally use a big 3d printer to make a replica that people can study
21:20 <@Dagmar> Yep
21:20 <@Dagmar> Someone made a whole dinosaur skeleton like that awhile back
21:21 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking it's time to email steam
21:22 <@wilpig> que?
21:22 <@Dagmar> This business of having pre-order stuff that's months out show up in the discounts list is annoying
21:22 <@Dagmar> It should say (Pre-order) in the name
21:22 <@wilpig> this is true
21:23 <@Dagmar> I think I can argue that having people (like me) see a title they want, but CAN'T HAVE generates some not-insignificant levels of ill-will
21:24 <@Dagmar> Pestering me to buy things I can't have yet is obnoxious and mean
21:24 <@oddball> What the fuck... the short test from the Seagate tools says "yep... healthy drive!
21:25 <@Dagmar> ..and there's none of this shit about "Well the target audience is 14-year-olds" because it's goddamn Thief, so the target audience is *exactly* us.  ADULTS.
21:25 <@Dagmar> oddball: What's saying the drive is bad?
21:25 <@oddball> The raid array box.
21:25 <@Dagmar> ...and the short test actually doesn't do much.  The long, offline test actually goes and tries to read every sector
21:26 <@oddball> and I've the drives aroundin the trays... The tray is saying good when one of the other drives is in it.
21:27 <@Dagmar> HOw many errors was it throwing?
21:27 <@Dagmar> 'cuz controllers sometimes fuck up and they can't tell if they fucked up or the drive fucked up
21:27 <@Dagmar> ...but they'll report it just the same
21:30 <@oddball> The error message that the manager software is throwing at me is "page 0 damage error"
21:32 <@oddball> Of course, I might have had more info to go on if their linux software fucking worked at all.
21:33 <@Dagmar> Damn.
21:33 <@Dagmar> That sounds like the reason I try to stick with either really intelligent hardware RAID, or I just do the shit with LVM old-school style
21:33 <@oddball> Of course, the fact that there's a light on the front of the box that reads "error rebuild" that I can find literally zero documentation on isn't real comforting either.
21:34 <@oddball> See... I figured when wilpig recommended this enclosure to me...
21:34 <@wilpig> you can email them, they will respond within 24 hours or so
21:34 <@Dagmar> I assume these drives are all fairly similar in manufacture date
21:34 <@oddball> yep.  As in I recieved them, what, two weeks ago?
21:35 <@wilpig> I really havne't had any trouble out of it.  my one complaint is their software is pretty shit in the form of a precompiled 32bit only binary
21:36 <@wilpig> it doesn't help any that it's a x11 application too
21:37 <@Dagmar> ouch
21:37 <@oddball> I'm not really all that upset by that.  The fact that it doesn't fucking work upsets me.
21:38 <@oddball> I guess I'll give them a call in the morning and see if anything can be done to rebuild the raid.
21:39 <@Dagmar> Was it spanned or striped?
21:39 <@wilpig> they're based in california and have been nice everytime i've talked to them
21:39 <@oddball> raid5
21:39 <@Dagmar> Okay, so it probably won't hurt to shove a blank drive in there and see if it will rebuild from that then
21:39 <@Dagmar> ...or BACK THE FUCKER UP that the array doesn't like and zero it, and then try
21:39 <@oddball> Well, it should run in degraded mode now, right?
21:40 <@Dagmar> It *should* if it's RAID5
21:40 <@oddball> Yeah... it's not.
21:40 <@Dagmar> There's not much fucking point in a RAID5 array that can't lose one disk and keep going.
21:40 <@Dagmar> That would be called RAID-bullshit
21:41 <@oddball> (or RAID0 :p)
21:41 <@Dagmar> ...or possibly Redundant Array of Irredeemable Douchebaggery
21:41 <@wilpig> if it initially showed two disks as failed then it could have marked the raid as dead.
21:42 <@wilpig> when I initially got this one a few years back I did pull a drive and run it degraded to make sure it was working right and ti autorebuilt 
21:42 <@oddball> It's currently listing D3 and D4 as part of the raid, and d2 as "spare"
21:42 <@Dagmar> Yeah I pulled a sort of d-bah move on Kenon one night just because I knew exactly what the array would do
21:42 <@Dagmar> He was waffling about _which_ goddamn drive I needed to replace.
21:43 <@Dagmar> So, although I was pretty sure he was telling me the wrong one, I pulled it and reinserted it, knowing it would make the array go 'oh fuck.  Gotta check the hell out of everything now'
21:43 <@Dagmar> ...which gave him the time to actually go and _look up_ which drive I should be swapping
21:43 <@wilpig> damn I feel old.  ready to sleep and it isn't 10 yet
21:44 <@Dagmar> http://www.wtvf.com/story/24256115/police-teen-shot-out-nearly-100-car-windows-after-fight-with-girlfriend
21:44 < GateKeeper> Title: Teen Shot Out Nearly 100 Car Windows After Fight With Girlfriend - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.wtvf.com)
21:45 <@Dagmar> "It could have missed one of the cars and went into one of the houses. Someone could have gotten hurt because someone got upset and was enraged," she said.
21:45 <@Dagmar> I think someone's forgotten they were dealing with a BB gun.
21:45 <@Dagmar> ...cuz maybe if someone were standing near an open window and it hit them on the arm or something, it might break skin a little
21:45 <@wilpig> he could have put someone's eye out
21:45 <@Dagmar> Go *into* a house, on the other hand?  Not bloody likely
21:45 <@wilpig> ralphie
21:46 <@Dagmar> I almost feel for that fictional character
21:47 <@Dagmar> I had exactly one pair of glasses break as a kid, because a damn icicle fell off the house and smashed my glasses right off my face.
21:47 <@oddball> Yeah... it's acting like d2 is just a fucking spare drive and isn't attached to anything.
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23:46 < RangerZ> Dagmar: http://slashdot.org/story/13/12/18/1415215/bitcoin-exchange-value-halves-after-chinese-ban lulz
23:46 < GateKeeper> Title: Bitcoin Exchange Value Halves After Chinese Ban - Slashdot (at slashdot.org)
23:59 <@Corydon76-work> I wonder if Bitcoin hashing units are gathering less income on ebay now
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