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00:20 <@Dagmar> Doesn't come up in Google
00:22 <@Dagmar> s/sword/shroud/
00:24 <@Dagmar> ...and this game will be a double-barrel shotgun blast to a lot of people
00:24 <@Dagmar> I find their $10 pledge level amusing
00:27 < RangerZ> yeah
00:27 < RangerZ> honestly... i don't know how i feel about the game
00:27 < RangerZ> i backed it for 40$ when it was originally up
00:27 <@Dagmar> If there's anyone who can do a meaningful game, it'll be Garriott
00:28 <@Dagmar> He's learned more than most coding houses put together
00:28 < RangerZ> yeah, i'm kinda just going to wait this one out, and look at the final product
00:28 < RangerZ> I'm already involved in Star Citizen's community
00:50 <@Dagmar> Interesting.  The 3DS no longer talks about the special zone being available
01:38 < RangerZ> Duck Vaginasty
01:38 < RangerZ> nice new name
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05:02 <@Catonic> ew
08:28 < aestetix> penis
08:31 < aestetix> ugh I forgot how awesome package managers are
08:31 < aestetix> working with a distro where I have to manually compile everything sucks
08:47 < aestetix> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/13/call-jesus-white-expect-a-fight/
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12:46 <@Evilpig> doh!  well I need to move the printer it seems that wall circuit it overloaded
12:47 < RangerZ> laser?
12:47 <@Evilpig> yup
12:47 < RangerZ> initial warmup can pull a fair amount of power
12:47 <@Evilpig> the bigger concern is the battery backup didn't keep the server stuff up. :/
12:47 < RangerZ> my apt lights dim
12:47 <@Evilpig> and no the laser isn't plugged into the battery
12:48 <@Evilpig> gonna get a shower and get outta here.  got shit to do before it starts snowing and I still have a train to catch
12:49 <@Evilpig> well fuck a duck.  it's already snowing
12:52 <@Corydon76-work> Not to worry.  You know the trains up there have snow plows for the tracks, right?
12:52 <@Evilpig> it's a matter of getting to the train station
12:52 <@Evilpig> I'm not supposed to catch my train for anohter four hours
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13:13 <@SuMo_D> eggbot successfully calibrated and working well!!! Finally :) got it to draw on glitter ornaments... with shiny pens.... so many happy feels right now :D
13:13 <@SuMo_D> anybody need a SE2600 ornament?
13:14 <@eryc> pics please
13:14 <@SuMo_D> the it2pi (the kids programming class I teach in) ones are coming out great
13:16 <@SuMo_D> (loading)
13:17 <@SuMo_D> https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1466299_10152079775575049_1071157555_n.jpg
13:18 <@SuMo_D> not the best photo, I'll try to take some more later... I actually just looked at the time I gotta run
13:18 <@eryc> neat
13:18 <@SuMo_D> as soon as this is done
13:18 <@SuMo_D> I like it when stuff actually works
13:18 <@SuMo_D> always a good thing
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14:18 <@NotLarry> bye
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15:22 < RangerZ> nice... got a refurbished PS Vita w/ 3G , for 90$ from gamestop after trade in of crappy NSF Rivals for ps4 and trade in deals and coupons, lol
15:33 <@Dagmar> I still don't know if I'm going to upgrade to the PS4 yet or not
15:40 < RangerZ> i wouldn't 'yet'
15:40 < RangerZ> this feb/march there are games worth playing, infamous and watchdogs
15:41 < RangerZ> but watchdogs will be just as good, if not better graphics on PC
15:43 < RangerZ> but the PS3 has plenty of good games coming out over the next year(s)
15:43 < RangerZ> including FF13 lightning returns, Persona 5, and some others... but they don't matter as much to me
15:43 < RangerZ> lol
15:44 < RangerZ> aestetix: aestetix: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/12/14/1618239/github-takes-down-satirical-c-plus-equality-language
15:44 < GateKeeper> Title: GitHub Takes Down Satirical 'C Plus Equality' Language - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org)
15:45 < RangerZ> ok... don't know why it did name twice... nice lagging :/
15:46 <@Evilpig> http://www.thebos.co/e/tumblr-holiday-party-2014
15:46 < GateKeeper> Title: Tumblr Holiday Party 2014 | The Bosco | New York City photo booth and video booth rentals (at www.thebos.co)
15:47 <@Evilpig> http://www.thebos.co/p/28NT65  <-- this is the dc crew
15:47 < GateKeeper> Title: Tumblr Holiday Party 2014 | The Bosco | New York City photo booth and video booth rentals (at www.thebos.co)
16:30 < RangerZ> Dagmar: if you have ps+, then vita is nice b/c you get 4 free games a month
16:32 < RangerZ> lots of them are 'pinball' and other junk, but I have, soul sacrifice, oddworld, the brand new raymand legends,  hotline miami , GTA liberty cities and others for free
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16:39 < RangerZ> but the vita+ps4 combo letting me play games on the john... gotta love that, hehe
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17:06 <@shadow404> wilpig: server restart?
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17:27 < Th3Fr1ng3> Aloha amigos
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18:51 < aestetix> hahaha
18:59 < aestetix> RangerZ: yeah that's gonne keep blowing up
18:59 < aestetix> Github got fucked by that.
19:00 < aestetix> If they didn't take it down, they would have been boycotted.
19:00 < aestetix> Now that they did take it down, they are getting hammered for censorship.
19:00 < aestetix> Also, the people saying github is a publishing entity is interesting.
19:35 <@Dagmar> They need a stonefaced adult to answer to it
19:35 <@Dagmar> 1. It was clearly *not* a legitimate attempt at programming.
19:36 <@Dagmar> 2. It was deliberately meant to piss people off, and was therefore toxic to GitHub
19:36 <@Dagmar> Those kind of override the false claim that this was code as speech.
19:42 <@Dagmar> If either of those two things were not true, it could potentially be worth it for GitHub to stick it out
19:43 <@Dagmar> Since they *are* true, someone else can bite the bullet and host that _themselves_ instead of anonymously stirring up shit just to see how it smells.
19:44 <@Dagmar> ...and this isn't even an anonymity issue.  They've deliberately left GitHub holding the bag
19:44 <@Dagmar> They didn't just evade the blowback--they left it pointed at someone else entirely.
19:46 <@Dagmar> firth?
19:46 <@Dagmar> wrong chan
19:47 < aestetix> Dagmar: I'll agree to that. Good satire usually has at least *some* nuance.
19:47 <@Dagmar> I'd give it a 5.
19:47 <@Dagmar> It wasn't half bad
19:48 <@Dagmar> ...but dropping that flaming bag of shit on GitHub's doorstep wasn't exactly cool.
19:50 < aestetix> well
19:50 < aestetix> There is something to be said for maintaining the moral higher ground.
19:50 < aestetix> Which they obviously did not do.
19:52 < aestetix> gettext is taking forever to compile
19:52 < aestetix> This reminds me of one year when we started compiling xorg right before leaving for interz0ne. We arrived 10 hours later, it was still compiling.
19:55 <@Dagmar> -j(no of cpus +1)
19:56 < aestetix> heh
20:29 <@Catonic> cd /usr/ports; make -j12 all
21:13 <@Evilpig> snow.  lots of snow
21:13 <@Evilpig> I opted out of going into the city tonight and that is proving to be wise
21:14 <@Evilpig> this is outside my back door.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/o3ht8vkdxkdijl0/2013-12-14%2021.08.54.jpg
21:14 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-12-14 21.08.54.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
21:16 <@Corydon76-work> So, anybody ever install an engine block (or coolant) heater?
21:18  * Dagmar point at Evilpig and laughs
21:18 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-work: mirage would be the one to hit up
21:18 <@Corydon76-work> We're starting to have an abnormally cold winter, and I'm getting temperature sensor warnings in the morning, before my engine has warmed up, so I'm looking into it
21:18  * Evilpig shakes his fist in anger at Dagmar 
21:18 <@Evilpig> Damn southerners and your snow that melts...
21:19 <@Corydon76-work> Evilpig: uh, I've had snow on the back deck for the past several days.  It's NOT melting.
21:19 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4eec9ppaswy1z0e/2013-12-14%2021.08.00.jpg
21:19 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-12-14 21.08.00.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
21:20 <@Corydon76-work> Granted, it's not as deep as your snow, but it's still friggin' cold here.
21:20 <@Evilpig> I was just out driving around.  dropped off some shit at ups then looked at the weather and opted to not go into the city so I went to see the second part of the asshole's epic telling of the hobbit then came home
21:20 <@Corydon76-work> I moved to the South to get away from that crap.
21:21 <@Corydon76-work> If you go down to central NJ, then head west to Pennsylvania, you'll be approximately where I grew up
21:26 <@Evilpig> wtf?  http://www.facebook.com/WKFLLRegional
21:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Welcome to Facebook (at www.facebook.com)
21:41 <@eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gYM0GqYaVQ
21:41 < GateKeeper> Title: The Google Glass Experience - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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21:43 < NotLarry> ok, the last cpu I seated was a 386.  This processor came with a fan assembly that has a grey square on it where it meets the cpu (a thermal pad?) Does that mean I do not put thermal paste on the cpu before I put the heatsink on it?
21:44 < NotLarry> nvm, damn amd website has instructions, in english:)
21:45 < NotLarry> bbl, wish me luck
22:10 <@Dagmar> Yes, it comes with a pad of thermal paste already on it
22:10 <@Dagmar> ...becase of the people who thought Dell's "JUST BURY IT IN THERMAL PASTE" approach was the right thing to do
22:14 <@Evilpig> lol
22:14 < RangerZ> some people recommend taking the time to clean off 'that' thermal pad
22:14 < RangerZ> and then putting your own on
22:15 < RangerZ> but the stuff there is 'good enough' with a stock cooler
22:21 <@Dagmar> They have a "reasonable" amount
22:21 <@Dagmar> I strip it off and apply my own thermal silver, but I put *far* less on there than AMD does
22:22 <@Dagmar> AMD's amount, you can probably get away with removing and reseating the CPU
22:22 <@Dagmar> The minimalistic amount I use means I'd definitely have to clean and reapply
22:26 <@Dagmar> So apparently I need to stop wearing my rings
22:26 <@Dagmar> I met a girl last night who thought I was married because of all the rings
22:45 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVDsWmYj2Nc
22:45 < GateKeeper> Title: SteamOS - How To Install SteamOS On VirtualBox - Complete Video Guide & Article Walkthrough - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:46 < RangerZ> so the final VM of steam OS looks fairly decent when its installed
22:58 <@Dagmar> I like that they mention very clearly to read the instructions or you could be left with a shiny brick
22:58 <@Dagmar> ...because that's a new thing with UEFI that PC users may not be used to
22:59 <@Dagmar> It won't exactly "brick" but it can get into a state where you have to work very hard to undo the fuckery
23:02 < RangerZ> yeah
23:03 < RangerZ> i haven't touched UEFI at all yet
23:12 < aestetix> what is steamos?
23:13 < aestetix> is that like an OS just for gaming?
23:13 < RangerZ> sorta
23:13 < RangerZ> Steam's take on a Console OS
23:13 < RangerZ> but its just linux
23:14 <@Dagmar> A modified Debian
23:14 < RangerZ> it aught to be interesting to see where it goes, because Valve took the time/effort to port their souce engine to openGL, and it was originally able to get max 1~2 frames a second on their test machine
23:15 < RangerZ> then they found bottlenecks, and optimized it, and got it up to something like 220 frames/second, which was 10% faster than their windows version
23:15 < RangerZ> then they improved their windows code, and got it down to linux being only 5% faster or so
23:16 < RangerZ> but... linux is 'still' faster with openGL, so that was their finally decision to push *nix w/ opengGL , b/c mac uses it too
23:26 < RangerZ> IF gaming moves to linux, windows will lose its last big 'grab' that keeps home users on it
23:30 <@eryc> idk the linux desktop still sucks
23:30 <@eryc> and there are no major apps
23:31 <@eryc> and steam isn't leaving windows
23:33 <@Corydon76-work> LOL.  All of the major business apps still run on batch-based systems, so it's irrelevant whether you're running Linux, Mac, or Windows on the desktop
23:34 <@Corydon76-work> Nobody is running warehousing or shipping on Access or SQL Server
23:35 <@Corydon76-work> Yes, there's Starship on Windows, but it all interfaces into a backend batch-based system
23:42 < aestetix> RangerZ: I'll use that in a heartbeat if I can run the Stanley Parable on it
23:42 < RangerZ> aestetix: yeah, I want it for Star Citizen
23:43 < aestetix> They said they'd release it for Mac soon
23:43 < aestetix> but it's been 3-4 months now
23:44 < aestetix> ok maybe 2-3
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23:50 < RangerZ> aestetix: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/12/14/2329234/under-the-hood-of-steamos
23:50 < GateKeeper> Title: Under the Hood of SteamOS - Slashdot (at linux.slashdot.org)
23:53 <@Dagmar> http://imgur.com/gallery/LImGNvS <-- mind blown
23:53 < GateKeeper> Title: Such skill, much time spent - Imgur (at imgur.com)
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