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00:09 <@SuMo_D> there is a very fine line between being a feminist and being a hater mmmmk
00:09 < aestetix> SuMo_D: uh oh
00:09 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: you tapdance all around the line, don't you?
00:09 <@SuMo_D> lol
00:09 < aestetix> is hat the moral of southpark?
00:09 < aestetix> I have to watch this episode
00:09 <@SuMo_D> that's part of it
00:10 <@SuMo_D> and how Kim Kardashian is a hobbit
00:10 <@SuMo_D> and how photoshop makes people crazy lol
00:10 <@SuMo_D> I love how I've been watching this since season one... and its still so damn good
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01:20 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rWtDMPaRD8 god... this shit just makes my stomach churn
01:20 < GateKeeper> Title: The Hunted and the Hated: An Inside Look at the NYPDs Stop-and-Frisk Policy - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:20 < RangerZ> I KNOW police that aren't like this (but in Ohio,and a rich township, but still) Police shouldn't be fucking acting like this
01:34 < RangerZ> https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/410946586294751232 aestetix ohh he's pissed
01:34 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / AngryJoeShow: ..WHAT THE FUCK @YOUTUBE Nearly ... (at twitter.com)
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02:26 <@Catonic> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/11/hindus-join-satanists-demanding-equal-placement-on-oklahoma-capitol-grounds/
02:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Hindus join Satanists demanding equal placement on Oklahoma capitol grounds | The Raw Story (at www.rawstory.com)
02:29 < RangerZ> Catonic: i fully support the hindus
02:29 < RangerZ> and am waiting for the Muslims to do the same
02:29 < RangerZ> and to see heads explode
02:29 < RangerZ> lol
02:31 <@Dagmar> Bad choise of words.
02:33 < RangerZ> you think?
02:33 < RangerZ> perhaps it was more right than it should have been ;)
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02:34 < RangerZ> maybe we can put a statue of Mohammad up, to celebrate the Islamic religion
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03:39 < RangerZ> you know... weight loss brown sugar flavored oatmeal doesn't do any good if you have to add a fair amount of brown sugar to it to make it stop tasting worse than just plain oatmeal... :(
03:39 < RangerZ> sometimes I hate food companies
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04:54 <@Catonic> lol
04:54 <@Catonic> yeah, the fundies are gonna have kittens. it shall be much ado over nothing.
04:55 <@Catonic> I don't understand what it is about the Nebraska/Oklahoma/Texas area that appeals to religious nutbags
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07:47 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:56  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
08:05  * wilpig kicks Dolemite in the shins
08:06 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: wilpig was pining over you not being in channel yesterday, i think he missed your snuggles
08:07 <@Shadow404> i think you should pay extra special attention to him
08:08 <@Dolemite> I was doing a road trip with my uncle
08:08 <@Dolemite> wilpig: Did you see the picture of the TomTom mapping car that I posted to FB?
08:09 <@wilpig> nope
08:12 <@Shadow404> pics or it didnt happen
08:12 <@Dolemite> We got to the overlook at the beginning of the Tail of the Dragon and there he was.  Chatted with him about 15 minutes, then followed him for 1/4 mile.
08:12 <@Dolemite> Shadow404: You idiot.  I already stated that I posted them on FB.
08:12 <@Shadow404> stalker
08:12 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: 2 points, i dont use facebook and i dotn think your on my fb
08:12 < aestetix> wait
08:13 <@Dolemite> Then that's YOUR problem.
08:13 < aestetix> if you don't use facebook, how would he be on it?
08:13 <@Shadow404> hehe, yeah, thats my problem
08:13 <@Shadow404> aestetix: i had a past account
08:13 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Prezactly
08:13 < aestetix> oh
08:13 <@Dolemite> And I was on your old FB account
08:13 <@Shadow404> better put, i dont use fb anymore
08:13 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: ah, ok
08:13 <@Dolemite> Apparently TomTom does the street view mapping for Bing, which also feeds over to Apple maps
08:14 <@Shadow404> whoever uses yahoo maps nowadays is an idiot
08:14 <@wilpig> me punches Shadow404 in the nuts
08:14 <@Shadow404> that thing is so buggy, its super fail
08:14 <@wilpig> you use yahoo!.  CUNT!
08:14 <@Shadow404> wilpig: well sorry, it is
08:14 <@wilpig> They pay me, you use them
08:14 <@Shadow404> jut because its related to tumbler
08:15 <@Shadow404> i use tumblr, for pron
08:15 <@Shadow404> but not yahoo
08:15 <@Shadow404> well accept the groups
08:15 <@Shadow404> hehe
08:21 <@Dolemite> I used to use my.yahoo.com as my homepage until they decided to redesign it and make it worthless
08:22 < aestetix> penis
08:22 <@Dolemite> And of course, Google had to go and get rid of iGoogle, which had replaced my.yahoo for a while.
08:22 <@Dolemite> So now I just stare at pictures of wilpig's cats for my homepage.
08:23 <@wilpig> so do i
08:28 <@Shadow404> yeah, i dont have any clue while google has cancelled a bunch of useful stuff they had, like the igoogle page, the android developer thing, and some others
08:30 <@wilpig> some people have some lame ass tumblr pages. http://laser30971.tumblr.com/
08:30 < GateKeeper> Title: Untitled (at laser30971.tumblr.com)
08:31 <@Shadow404> well done
08:31 <@Shadow404> how long did that take
08:31 <@wilpig> 2 seconds
08:31 <@brimstone> they probably have a pegboard of Lame Ass Tumblrs
08:32 <@wilpig> busy working on a ticket and filing some media
08:38 <@wilpig> I wonder where tanya is this morning.  she hasn't called and it's nearly 9
08:39 <@Shadow404> are you missing her?
08:42 <@Dolemite> Probably her string cheese
08:42 <@wilpig> just not like her to be so late
08:42 <@wilpig> we've had some shitty traffic and several wrecks the last few weeks in front of the dc
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09:14 <@Dolemite> wilpig: I finally got to the episode where Bo and Lauren break up, and let me tell you, I had gotten quite tired of her whiny ass.  Hopefully if/when he comes back the dynamic will be different.
09:14 <@Dolemite> she, not he
09:14 <@Dolemite> Though I do think she looks a bit trannyesque
09:14 <@wilpig> you still wanna see em scissor
09:15 <@wilpig> I got tpac to refund my jim jeffries tickets yesterday
09:17 <@Shadow404> any update on your co-worker?
09:17 <@wilpig> yeah she's here
09:17 <@Shadow404> whew, ok, bad weather is always a bit nerve racking
09:17 <@wilpig> had a set of bad luck this morning
09:18 <@Shadow404> ah, thats the suck
09:18 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: has wilpig enlisted you in the fight against the german this morning yet?
09:18 <@Dolemite> no
09:21 <@wilpig> you saw he closed the pull request yesterday.  it was a victory for me
09:34 <@Dolemite> Ah, yes, he didn't quite understand what the color code field was
09:34 <@Dolemite> I saw his original email and laughed
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09:36 <@wilpig> did you see my last response toit that had something like "that old red cable that we should have thrown out"
09:38 <@Dolemite> yeah
09:39 < Shug_> Greetings folks...met you all at Phreaknic 17, you rock.  Wondering if anyone wants to come to Asheville June 6-8th to help with a con called GeekOut.  Also curious about starting a 2600 chapter here in Asheville...if it means no/little money, of course
09:40 <@wilpig> I'd love to but I am nowhere near there anymore
09:40 <@wilpig> sumo_d is in that area though and she'd be the best person to hit up
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09:40 <@wilpig> of course she isn't in here atm
09:40 < Shug_> Yeah, I talk to her regularly
09:42 < Shug_> I will put something together soon to blast out better putting the call out
09:42 <@wilpig> just lurk in here and you'll catch people
09:43 < Shug_> mmmm....lurking....
09:43 <@Corydon76-work> Shug_: Yep, more details are definitely required before I can commit, but I'm certainly interested.
09:43 <@wilpig> that reminds me I told ben I would update teh PN site last night
09:43 < Shug_> Is there any hope of getting the video from the talks?
09:44 <@Corydon76-work> There's hope, yes
09:44 <@Corydon76-work> I don't know what the status is, however.
09:44 <@Shadow404> yeah, hit up skydog and wait for hell to freeze over
09:44 <@wilpig> someone's working on it
09:44 < Shug_> There's one that might insight riots and I want to get that one on facebook asap
09:44 <@wilpig> last I heard he was really busy with work and the videos hit the back burner
09:45 < Shug_> Can I volunteer to process the video next year?
09:45 <@wilpig> fine by me
09:46 < Shug_> Well...probably not the best place for it, but I will gladly rock that shit in realtime
09:46 <@brimstone> i only go to conferences where irongeek doesn't do the video
09:46 <@wilpig> brimstone: shhhh.  you go where we tell you to go
09:46 <@Shadow404> hehe
09:46 <@brimstone> rumor has it, next year irongeek will upload the talk videos before the con
09:47 < Shug_> I'm making a kickstarter page to raise funds to buy up all the old t-shirts
09:47 <@Corydon76-work> Um, whose old T-shirts?
09:48 < Shug_> the Phreaknic ones...really wanting more of the 2012 ones to give as gifts
09:49 <@brimstone> kickstarter isn't a store dude
09:49 <@Corydon76-work> I should probably get the credit card site up, then
09:49 <@wilpig> you or me, yes
09:49 <@wilpig> I mentioned that to my boss the other day that we need to redo the store
09:50 < Shug_> I know its not a store, I'm really joking, but I mean that I'm seeking donations to buy them all and give them away
09:50 <@Corydon76-work> Well, it's a new platform to take over the Google checkout stuff
09:50 <@Corydon76-work> Braintree, I think
09:50 <@wilpig> Shug_: we had an actual store site.  but like Corydon76-work said with google shutting down checkout we have to migrate it to something new
09:51 <@Corydon76-work> Yep, and it's hit the back burner due to lack of demand
09:51 <@Corydon76-work> But you have demand, so I'll look into it tonight, perhaps
09:52 < Shug_> gotcha, the 'hacker inside' would be a hit.  Oh yeah, I had an idea for a t-shirt you guys might be able to make some scratch with, "Pentesters Do It Better" What do you think?
09:53 <@wilpig> Shug_: it honestly comes down to getting some good artwork
09:53 <@wilpig> if you can find good art, people will want them
09:53 <@Corydon76-work> Asking what geeks think early in the morning doesn't work
09:53 <@Corydon76-work> It's still before noon.
09:53 <@wilpig> I can get you the hacker inside artwork but you don't really want to make shirts just like phreaknic do you?  
09:54 < Shug_> There's also nobody really around this area doing pentesting if anyone is interested in a completely open market to work.  No, I don't want to make them, just help you guys out.
09:56 <@Dolemite> Meeting time!  Yay for me!
09:57 < Shug_> Is anyone doing anything for Hour of Code this week?
09:57 <@brimstone> what's hour of code?
09:59 < Shug_> This week is national Computer Science Education week and hour of code is an effort to get people exposed to at least an hour of coding throughout the week.
09:59 < Shug_> You might be able to get free labor from it if you time it just right
10:00 < Shug_> kidding
10:01 <@wilpig> I'd say on average most everyone in here already codes at least an hour a week.  lol
10:03 < RangerZ> Dolemite: I want iGoogle and Google Reader back
10:03 < RangerZ> or atleast ONE of them
10:03 < Shug_> very likely, the idea is that schools need people like y'all to blow the kids minds for an hour.  I was in a high school class yesterday showing them arduinos and raspis
10:06 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah... I'm on a limited budget concerning showing kids neat stuff for another 18 months.
10:06 <@wilpig> you sick fuck!  i'm not blowing any kids!
10:06 < Shug_> we have a homeschool event tonight at Asheville Makerspace, bringing in a 3D printer, etc.  Is there something like that with this group?  Like something that works with the community throughout the year to raise exposure/funds?
10:06 <@Corydon76-work> Actually, that includes acquiring neat stuff for myself
10:07 <@Corydon76-work> Nothing like that, yet
10:07 < Shug_> I was thinking about telling all the girls Don't stand so close to me!
10:09 < Shug_> I'm working on creating Asheville Makerspace, trying to use that to raise money for cool toys
10:11 < Shug_> it gets a lot more cool toys than money though
10:13 <@wilpig> alright.  updated like ben asked.  but it's an omg wall of text right now.
10:13 <@wilpig> http://phreaknic.info/pn18/
10:13 < GateKeeper> Title: Sooper srs guise (at phreaknic.info)
10:15 < RangerZ> wilpig: good news
10:16 < RangerZ> don't know if ben told you
10:16 < RangerZ> you got re-elected
10:16 < RangerZ> since you had been to more than two meetings this year, and paid dues
10:18 <@wilpig> dink took over vp
10:18 <@wilpig> and i wasn't an officer last year
10:19 <@wilpig> and i don't meet the officer criteria anymore because of location
10:19 <@wilpig> i can be a director though
10:27 < Shug_> Can I submit a couple of links to video here?
10:28 <@wilpig> sure
10:28 <@wilpig> gonna reach out and touch our network guys soon
10:28 <@wilpig> http://www.ebay.com/itm/UAV-63-Electric-RC-Drone-Airplane-ARF-/331085652769?pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item4d163e2321
10:28 < GateKeeper> Title: UAV 63'' Electric RC Drone Airplane ARF | eBay (at www.ebay.com)
10:32 < Shug_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzMt3PlU2h4
10:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Interview with Michael Snyder of Revolution Labs at Phreaknic 17 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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10:33 < Shug_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGsQsY4zaQ8
10:33 < GateKeeper> Title: Interview with Drew Myers [JohnnyX] at Phreaknic 17 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:33 < Shug_> What up Sumo_D
10:33 <@Shadow404> wait, i gotta see that
10:38 <@wilpig> neteng to us: cross connect port 1 on both of the 4550s to each other
10:38 <@wilpig> us to neteng:  okay.  does that need to be a crossover since it's going between switches
10:38 <@wilpig> neteng to us: no straight through
10:38 <@wilpig> an hour later
10:39 <@wilpig> neteng to us: wilbur hooked it up wrong, you never connect two switches together via copper when they're chained
10:39  * wilpig clicks buy now on the drone
10:39 <@wilpig> fucking israeli.  eat hot drone death!
10:40 <@wilpig> no more plugging up cables for neteng without a ticket.  his dumbass doesn't know what the fuck he wants 
10:45 <@Mirage> Damn pig, ou should know that you're supposed to just hook a cable from port 1 to port 2 on the SAME switch.  That makes the network much faster
10:46 <@wilpig> smartass
10:46 <@wilpig> thinking i need to start connection equipment for him through aset of 10base2 transceivers.
10:46 <@wilpig> fucker
10:47 <@Mirage> Seriously, it works.  Setup a monitor port and plug in a box running wireshark or tcpdump to that, then connect the cable.  You'll see an amazing increase in activity!
10:48 <@Shadow404> how much is that drone?
10:48 <@Shadow404> Shug_: total wilpig photo bomb of that interview with jonnyx @ 3m15sec
10:48 <@Shadow404> er, 3m:50sec
10:49 <@Corydon76-work> wilpig: I'm thinking you just got hazed
10:50 < Shug_> Is there anything worse than hearing yourself talking on a recording...I said um like um 100 times
10:51 <@Corydon76-work> Shug_: that's why you practice interviews before moving on to subjects you want to make public
10:52 <@Corydon76-work> More experience gives you more confidence
10:52 <@Mirage> Shug_: In HS out history teacher was bad about "um, and , um, well...".  Myself and a couple other people in other classes of his started keeping a tally.  He averaged over a week's time ~4 upm (ums/minute)
10:53 <@Mirage> Of course then he found out about it and I got sent to the vice prinicpal's office to recieve a lecture on respecting teachers
10:54 <@Corydon76-work> Also, if you're uncertain, try using "ah" instead of "um".  It tends to blend in better with words, meaning unless there's a large gap, the verbal uncertainty is noticed less in a recording
10:54 < Shug_> nice...I was thinking about doing note counts for instruments, it would cool to do a word count for teachers and institutions...graph it out, put it all into one song or class, etc
10:55 <@Shadow404> Mirage: meh, he was a bad role model for speaking like that
10:55 < Shug_> Yes, or I just try to start agreeing with everything whether or not its even something to agree to or not, like knodding my head constantly and giving a lot of uh huhs
10:58 <@Corydon76-work> If both of you are in frame, try to remain still and silent while your subject is talking, otherwise, it attracts attention to yourself, when full focus should be put on your subject
10:59 <@Shadow404> full focus should never be put onto johnnyx
10:59 <@Mirage> Shadow404: We kind of envied him on some level though..he was also the Girls Soccer and Track coach.
10:59 <@Corydon76-work> Mirage: sounds like the attention of young guys made him nervous
11:00 <@Shadow404> lawl
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11:00 <@Mirage> I think that it was (mostly) universally true that HS girls made all us guys nervous, regardless of age
11:01 <@Shadow404> the funny part of that retort Corydon76-work is i saw your reply coming before you made it
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11:01 <@Corydon76-work> Shadow404: it doesn't actually indicate what you think it does
11:01 <@Dagmar> ...and now we know it's not because they were girls.  It's because they were dangerously unstable.
11:01 <@Shadow404> Mirage: the word jail-bat comes to mind
11:02 <@Corydon76-work> Usually it means that somebody experienced trauma at the hands of a person that age
11:03 <@Mirage> Shadow404: And how many reported incidents are there about Male teachers and female students?
11:03 <@Mirage> Dagmar: yes, one thing I learned to be true in HS is that all women are inherently psychotic
11:03 <@Corydon76-work> Mirage:  and men in high school are neurotic
11:04 <@Mirage> Corydon76-work: because of the damn girls
11:04 <@Corydon76-work> That doesn't explain the troubles I had in high school with boys
11:05 <@Corydon76-work> Trust me, everybody acts that way when they're the object of affection without the lens of experience to guide them
11:06 <@Shadow404> and dont froget puberty hormones
11:06 <@Shadow404> on both sides boys and girls
11:06 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I can't seem to escape shitty CA products.  One f our customers is using spectrum, sysedge, and service now...so we have to use them and support them as well.
11:06 <@oddball> Ok... that was fucking wierd.  Opened up an episode of Arrow in VLC, and all vocals were stripped.  Re-open the same file and it fucking works.
11:07 <@wilpig> Corydon76-work: not hazed. this is just how neteng is here
11:10 < Shug_> I think I remember still being relatively drunk while editing the video and did the full zoom in in post.  Once to hide someone else in the shot...the flashy lights and such where to keep in theme with the website's functionality
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11:12 <@Shadow404> wilpig: we did the same thing when we worked in our first noc, cause were not phsycially at the equipment, sometimes we send vague instructions and realize it was wrong later when the hands on engineers make a change that breaks something
11:12 <@Shadow404> of course, some people are asshats and blame the hands on techs
11:12 <@Shadow404> *we/I
11:13 <@Corydon76-work> I'm currently working on making a web app self-documenting, for PRECISELY that reason
11:13 <@Corydon76-work> You want to upload a spreadsheet, you need to look at the integrated guide at the fields the app expects
11:14 <@Corydon76-work> And tons of shit gets documented on the Wiki
11:16 <@Shadow404> we had a webcam on the mobile work carts that we could use to actually see the equipment we were making changes on, which helped out immensely
11:16 <@Shadow404> emngineering diagrams usually had small discrepancies
11:17 <@wilpig> i'm about to start drinking
11:18 < RangerZ> wilpig: why?
11:18 <@wilpig> cause of israeli engineers
11:18 < RangerZ> did tumblr just give you 25% time to work on openDCIM?
11:18 < RangerZ> ahh
11:18 < RangerZ> yeah... I've heard some great stories about our jewish friends
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11:25 <@Dolemite> Did someone say it's time to start drinking?
11:25  * Dolemite pours a pint for himself
11:28 <@wilpig> bah.  I need a photoshop file that's on my thumbdrive at the house
11:28 <@Shadow404> 615, keep your eyes peeled for this on the roads: @NASA_Orion heads cross country, through VA, TN, AR, TX, NM, AZ & CA. #spotOrion http://instagram.com/p/h074E-oaAP   pic.twitter.com/NKjVeFnEih
11:28 < GateKeeper> Title: Instagram (at instagram.com)
11:29 <@Shadow404> how far is greenville, tn from nashville?
11:30 <@Corydon76-work> 4 hours
11:30 <@Dolemite> Yeah, an hour past Knoxville
11:31 <@Corydon76-work> It's up on I-81, just south of Johnson City
11:31 <@Shadow404> Orion test vehicle is in Greenville, TN until this evening. Send your photos to #SpotOrion https://maps.google.com/maps?q=195+Van+Hill+Road,+Greeneville,+TN&hl=en&ll=36.324392,-82.832923&spn=0.027937,0.034804&sll=36.325846,-82.835076&hnear=195+Van+Hill+Rd,+Greeneville,+Tennessee+37745&t=m&z=15 .
11:31 < GateKeeper> Title: 195 Van Hill Road, Greeneville, TN - Google Maps (at maps.google.com)
11:31 <@Shadow404> apparently its within range of Dolemite
11:31 <@Shadow404> if you wanted to show your kids
11:32 <@Dolemite> Where does it go next?
11:32 <@Corydon76-work> Based upon the listing above, I'd guess west to Arkansas
11:33 <@Shadow404> yeah
11:33 <@Shadow404> i dont know, no further info right now
11:34 <@Dolemite> So it'll be going through Knoxville, Nashville, Memphis
11:34 <@Shadow404> ah, cool
11:35 <@Shadow404> you guys better get me some pictures!
11:36 <@Corydon76-work> Anybody else find it humorous that the photographer has the same name as the ill-fated astronaut on the 2001: Space Odyssey fictional voyage?
11:36 <@Dickie> Was he so ill-fated?
11:38 <@Corydon76-work> Well, after being locked outside of the spacecraft by a malfunctioning AI computer, he took a spacewalk that ended in his obliteration, so... yeah...
11:38 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: not according to the sequel
11:39 <@Shadow404> that was one really akward ending too
11:39 <@Corydon76-work> Shadow404: What part of "I _was_ David Bowman" was at all unclear?
11:39 <@rattle> Not really..  It was a rough ride..  But he wound up becoming transformed into a more highly evolved life form.
11:39 <@Shadow404> rattle: what you said
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11:40 <@Corydon76-work> Replaced, more like it
11:40 <@Corydon76-work> The book is more clear than the movie
11:40 <@rattle> You're just jealous.
11:41 <@SuMo_D> Shug!
11:41 <@SuMo_D> hugs my dude
11:41 <@Corydon76-work> Shadow404: which ending was awkward?
11:41 < aestetix> vagina
11:41 <@Corydon76-work> 2010's ending actually made sense
11:41 <@SuMo_D> this thing logs in automatically... I am actually almost out the the door...
11:41 <@Shadow404> the whole weird music and projector paint effects
11:41 <@rattle> Yeah, stay the fuck away from Europa.  I thought that was pretty clear.
11:42 < aestetix> what's wrong with Europe now?
11:42 <@Shadow404> 2010 was great
11:42 <@SuMo_D> Shug_ I just finished sorting out all the stuff from the GMG remnants we need to hang out I have some power supplies and stuff for you
11:42 <@Corydon76-work> although the "use them together.  use them in peace" was an addition by the movie producers
11:42 <@Shadow404> on that note, just released today: Hubble sees water vapor at Europa; 1st strong evidence of H2O plumes at the Jupiter moon. http://go.nasa.gov/1dtCBfp
11:42 <@rattle> aestetix: Europa, not Europe.
11:42 < GateKeeper> Title: Hubble Sees Evidence of Water Vapor at Jupiter Moon - NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory (at go.nasa.gov)
11:42 < aestetix> oh
11:43 <@Corydon76-work> It's too bad the Soviet Union didn't make it to 2001, let alone 2010.
11:43 < Shug_> Awesome...we are getting a good stock of those
11:43 <@rattle> 2010 was kinda cool..  But I kept expecting Jaws to pop up at some point.
11:43 <@Shadow404> ok, so 615, i expect pictuers of that orion craft as it passes through? get it, got it, good! no excuses
11:44 <@Corydon76-work> Well, plus, of course, Roy Scheider and John Lithgow's acting talents were completely under-utilized.
11:44 < Shug_> I have a lot of old cordless phone guts at 900 mhz...circuit bending maybe?
11:45 <@Shadow404> ROY, that guy rocks
11:45 <@Shadow404> seaquest, jaws
11:45 < aestetix> Oh man too bad
11:45 <@Shadow404> sci-fi legend like Patrick Stewart
11:45 < aestetix> Snapchat just raised a funding round, which values them at only $2 billion
11:45 <@rattle> Did you know Roy Scheider was a boxing champion in New Jersey before becoming an actor?
11:45 <@Corydon76-work> Shadow404: Okay, but I expect photos of your own ass, stretched to goatse proportions, in return
11:46 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: pass
11:46 <@Shadow404> rattle: that i did not know, i could totally see it though
11:46 <@Shadow404> though, by the time he was captain of seaquest, i think he would be to fragile for boxing still
11:46 < RangerZ> i was surprised to find out Harry Reid was a boxer too before politics
11:46 <@SuMo_D> Shug_ did you guys apply to the Moogfest challenge yet?
11:47 <@Corydon76-work> What's weird about Stewart is that, unlike Scheider, he's really only known for a single role
11:47 <@SuMo_D> I think we should do something together
11:47 <@SuMo_D> now that we got the light installation done... I'm stoked to be doing other projects...
11:47 <@rattle> Corydon76-work: More like two..  Picard and Xavier.
11:47 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: patrick has got some amazing british movies under his belt
11:47 < Shug_> We are all up in Moogfest like crabs
11:47 <@Corydon76-work> rattle: Okay, fair enough
11:47 <@Shadow404> some clasiccal pieces too
11:48 <@wilpig> speaking of john lithgow.  i'm watching buckaroo bansai right now
11:48 <@Corydon76-work> I also enjoyed him in his role in "Jeffrey", but most scifi geeks have never seen Stewart play gay.
11:48 <@rattle> And depending on what circles you are in, his early Shakespearian work overshadows everything else.
11:48 <@SuMo_D> I just got some color changing LEDs and coin cells to do stuff with the littlest ones at the maker faire - are you coming down with Tom for that?
11:48 <@SuMo_D> cool everything you are doing for Mr. Moog you better bring down for us too at the end of the week (sucks our events are the same week!!! ack)
11:48 <@rattle> Ahhh!  Buckaroo Bansai.  Awesome movie.
11:48 < Shug_> Tom bailed and now I think I'm the 4th incarnation of the official contact
11:49 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... sooooooooon we're hanging out
11:49 <@rattle> When I was a kid, I wanted to be Buckaroo Bansai.
11:49 <@Corydon76-work> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_(film)
11:50 < Shug_> We have no idea what we are doing for Moogfest, we just extorted our way into it for marketing
11:50  * oddball reads scrollback
11:50 <@Shadow404> yeah and?
11:50 <@oddball> I think I'm one of the few geeks that really liked 2010.
11:51 <@SuMo_D> :) I hear ya
11:51 <@oddball> In some ways, I thought it was better than 2001.
11:51 <@Corydon76-work> oddball: it worked better as a book than a movie.  Everything in the movie is enormously understated.
11:51 <@Shadow404> nah, i agree with you
11:51 <@Shadow404> 2010>2001
11:51 <@rattle> Did you know that Big Trouble in Little China is technically a volume of the Buckaroo Bansai saga?  Jack Burton is one of Buckaroo Bansai's Hong Kong Rangers.
11:52 < aestetix> I never read 2010, but I did read 2001
11:52 < aestetix> ironically, now that I think about it, I read 2001 *in* 2001
11:52 <@SuMo_D> rattle I didn't know that but that's awesome
11:52 <@wilpig> rattle: i didn't but I can see it
11:52 < RangerZ> aestetix: I watched it then
11:52 <@oddball> I knew that Big Trouble in Little China was originally suposed to be a Buckaroo Bansai sequel.
11:52 < RangerZ> I honestly didn't understand it , b/c i 'half' watched it
11:53 < aestetix> RangerZ: I've seen it several times. Including both before and after reading the book.
11:53 <@Corydon76-work> I think a great deal of the 2010 movie loses a lot after the collapse of the Soviet Union.  So much of the plot revolves around the inherent terror of the Cold War.
11:53 < RangerZ> then i had to watch it for 'history of motion pictures' and i fucking hated it
11:53 < aestetix> I saw 2010, probably also in 2001
11:53 <@oddball> Now, I will say that I've watched 2001 a hell of a lot more times than 2010...
11:53 < RangerZ> but EVERYTHING she made us watch... i hated
11:53 <@rattle> Oops.  The Hong Kong Cavaliers, not Rangers.  Sorry Sansei Bansai!
11:54 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: kind of like how remaking Red Dawn didn't work out so well?
11:54 <@oddball> RangerZ: Yeah... that tends to happen when you have to study it for a class.
11:54 <@wilpig> the remake of red dawn was horrid
11:54 < RangerZ> aestetix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JqjDhuPFaQ an actual FAQ about the youtube stuff
11:54 < GateKeeper> Title: YouTube copyright blitz focuses on gameplay videos - Dec. 12th, 2013 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
11:54 <@Corydon76-work> I will never understand that decision, either
11:54 <@oddball> aestetix: ugh... yeah... that was just bad.
11:54 < RangerZ> oddball: i hate citizen kane because of that too
11:54 < aestetix> What was the remake.... an invasion from North Korea or something?
11:55 <@rattle> I haven't watched the Red Dawn remake.  I was fairly certain I was going to hate it when I heard they changed the enemy to China, but then changed it again to North Korea because they were worried about pissing off China.
11:55 <@wilpig> I think so.  it was so bad i've tried to wash it from my brain
11:55 <@rattle> The original is too awesome to match..  After I saw that movie, I had a plan for if the Russians attacked my high school.
11:55 <@Corydon76-work> Now, a decent TV series that revolved around the success of terrorism in exploding nuclear bombs in the US was "Jericho", and that was well-done.
11:55 <@oddball> "yes!  Let's take a movie that deals with people's fears near the end of the Cold War and remake it now!  But without all that Cold War stuff!  Or character development!"
11:56 <@oddball> Corydon76-work: yep
11:56 <@rattle> Too bad the Soviet Union collapsed in my freshman year.
11:57 < aestetix> rattle: did it collapse in 1989 or 1992? I see conflicting reports about that
11:57 <@oddball> Actually, if you want to see a decent movie very much like Red Dawn, try the Australian movie Tomorrow, When the War Began.
11:57 < RangerZ> my first memory that I can 'date' is watching the news when the berlin wall fell
11:57 < aestetix> Since i thought the wall came down in 89
11:57 <@Corydon76-work> I think of the Soviet Union collapsing in 1991...
11:57 <@Mirage> rattle: You're younger than me?  I didn't realise
11:57 <@Corydon76-work> with the coup
11:58 <@oddball> Yeah... 91 or 92 sounds right.  89 was the wall... which a lot of folks point at as the begining of the end.
11:58 <@Mirage> aestetix: 1989, so far as I remember...my Jr year of HS
11:58 < aestetix> oddball: yeah, IIRC there was this slow depressing decline.
11:59 < RangerZ> I started kindergarden in 1989 or so...
11:59  * Mirage looks around for his cane, then remembers Dolemite stole it to chase off some "damned kids"
11:59 < RangerZ> nope... 1990
12:00 <@Shadow404> Greeneville, Tenn.- have you seen @NASA_Orion water recovery test capsule today? #SpotOrion It left here last nite. pic.twitter.com/mMK606BLiQ
12:00  * oddball hands Mirage one of his
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12:01 < aestetix> But yeah, that whole Cold War thing
12:01 < RangerZ> best thing for USA ever
12:01 < aestetix> I still think going to Moscow was one of the most eye-opening experiences I've ever had.
12:02 < RangerZ> we need another cold war with china
12:02 < RangerZ> to spur science
12:02 < RangerZ> lol
12:02 < aestetix> RangerZ: you mean like how we need a bunch of famous non-programmers to tell kids to learn to code?
12:02 < RangerZ> no, i mean people need to think 'them vs us'
12:02 <@Corydon76-work> Dear god, it's a slow news day.  Biggest story is about an amateur sign language interpreter.
12:02 < RangerZ> thats how you get things done
12:02 < aestetix> oh right
12:02 < RangerZ> IE Republicans
12:03 < aestetix> RangerZ: btw, I think the best way I have found to illustrate the difference between western and eastern philosophy....
12:03 < aestetix> Is to compare chess with go
12:04 <@rattle> 89, sorta..  But 91 was really the year that sticks in my memory.
12:04 < aestetix> Since IIRC with go, each piece has the same powers, and strength comes in unity
12:04 < aestetix> Whereas with chess there's individuation
12:05 < RangerZ> aestetix:  you read malcolm gladwell?
12:05 < aestetix> I know the name, probably read some of his articles
12:05 < aestetix> Anything in particular?
12:05 < RangerZ> outliers
12:05 < aestetix> ok
12:05 < RangerZ> that and tipping point
12:05 < RangerZ> his two biggest works
12:06 < RangerZ> VERY important works when comparing east vs west
12:06 < RangerZ> also "germs guns and steel"
12:06 < aestetix> yeah I have that on the sshelf
12:06 < aestetix> I was going to use this metaphor to talk about names too
12:06 < aestetix> because I think there's a massive difference between west/east regarding names.
12:07 < aestetix> and division of power in general
12:07 < RangerZ> well korea and japan are pretty much suicidal as a nation
12:07 < RangerZ> thats why they don't excel to where they should
12:08 < RangerZ> but.... the real issue is India, Brazil, and USA are the only nations with enough land/crop growable land to support their people
12:09 <@Shadow404> what about U.K?
12:09 < RangerZ> India and USA combined have like 50% of worldwide arable land
12:09 < RangerZ> there is a reason why UK was colonist
12:10 <@Shadow404> ah, i thought it was for trade routes
12:10 < aestetix> RangerZ: also, the weather
12:10 <@Shadow404> sugar cane, silk, etc
12:10 < RangerZ> it doesn't have enough good crops lands, let alone other resources
12:10 < RangerZ> yeah, but basic food was the 'start'
12:10 <@Shadow404> got plenty of water....
12:11 <@Shadow404> practically rained our whole honeymoon, that should of been a sign
12:11 < RangerZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arable_land
12:11 < GateKeeper> Title: Arable land - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
12:11 < RangerZ> europe's bread basket (ukraine, etc) , and india are fine
12:11 < aestetix> Shadow404: you got married?
12:11 <@Shadow404> divorced
12:11 < aestetix> oh
12:12 <@Shadow404> remember scotchick?
12:12 < aestetix> yes
12:12 <@Shadow404> ...yeah
12:12 < RangerZ> USA is fine too, b/c Alaska screw's our 'land size' %
12:12 < aestetix> Shadow404: is this the part where I buy the next round?
12:12  * RangerZ comforts Shadow404
12:13  * RangerZ doesn't even know her, but figured it was a good bet you needed comforted
12:13 < RangerZ> lol
12:13 <@Shadow404> aestetix: yes, RangerZ meh, im better off
12:13 < RangerZ> no, comfort that you wasted time with her, etc
12:13 < RangerZ> lol
12:13 < RangerZ> but ehh
12:13 < aestetix> Shadow404: well hey look at it this way, at least you didn't go all emo in here about Electra
12:13 <@Shadow404> meh, i dont regret it, i got some great experience
12:13 <@Shadow404> and most of it was fun
12:13 <@Shadow404> electra?
12:14 < aestetix> That chick Catonic was all obsessed about
12:14 <@Shadow404> oh yeah, the women that was in and out of prison
12:14 < aestetix> she was?
12:14 <@Shadow404> this must be another chick
12:15 <@Shadow404> Catonic: clear to elaborate?
12:15 <@Shadow404> *care
12:15 < aestetix> This is the chick catonic was trying to hook up with, gave her a ride from alabama to phreaknic, and talked to her about cars the entire time
12:15 <@Shadow404> oh yeah, thats a way to impress a chick
12:15 <@Shadow404> but na, i dont rmeember her, maybe this was a pn i didnt get a chance to attend
12:16 < aestetix> I think it was after PN he was in here rambling about her for days
12:16 <@Shadow404> heh, we've all done that about women
12:16 < aestetix> true
12:16 <@Corydon76-work> I remember the year Catonic tried hitting on Joelle, who was married, with her husband there, and just about got decked.
12:16 <@Shadow404> i know i rambled about scotchick during the high points
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12:17 <@Shadow404> meh, i dont know why men get all bent out of shape about that
12:17 <@Shadow404> if you love your women, you trust her
12:17 <@Shadow404> and you should be happy shes getting hit on
12:17 <@Shadow404> cause you know that she wont act upon it
12:18 <@Corydon76-work> I didn't see what occurred, only the aftermath, with Todd screaming at Catonic at the top of his lungs
12:18 < aestetix> Shadow404: I think the key here is it involved Catonic
12:18 <@Shadow404> sigh, todd is insecure
12:18 <@Shadow404> aestetix: also a good point
12:18 <@Corydon76-work> and Catonic in his pre-able-to-interact-with-women stage
12:19 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: it was funny when you'd point out you have slept with more women than him
12:19 <@Shadow404> it was always cute watching him stumble
12:19 < aestetix> Catonic: if you're reading this, we know you're better now :p
12:19 <@Shadow404> i remember when he tried to hit on the waitress at the german restraunt at the old pn hotel
12:20 <@Shadow404> that was  a riot
12:20 < aestetix> Too bad he didn't hook up with Shadowmoss
12:20 <@Shadow404> i think scotchick turned beet red at that
12:20 <@Shadow404> ....
12:20 <@Corydon76-work> I've also slept with more men than all of you combined.  :-P
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12:22 < aestetix> Shadow404: http://imgur.com/otV1Awc
12:22 < GateKeeper> Title: Divorce aint so bad sometimes..... - Imgur (at imgur.com)
12:22 <@Shadow404> sfw?
12:22 < aestetix> yes
12:22 <@Shadow404> hehe, so glad i dont have off spring
12:23 <@Corydon76-work> I still wish I had kids
12:24 <@Shadow404> it was hard enough not having my dogs for 4 months while i got stabilized again
12:24 <@Shadow404> (finding a place to keep them)
12:24 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: I don't think I could have kids. Cats are enough
12:24 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: can't you adopt?
12:24 < aestetix> Or kidnap rattle's kid
12:24 <@Corydon76-work> Adoption is massively expensive
12:24 <@Shadow404> kidnap is cheaper
12:25 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah... the whole 'going to jail' thing just doesn't appeal to me
12:25 <@Shadow404> from what i hear, it would be heaven on earth
12:25 <@Shadow404> for you
12:25 <@Corydon76-work> You are more than welcome to try it and report back
12:26  * Shadow404 could see Corydon76-work purposely dropping the soap all the time
12:26 < aestetix> Shadow404: I think consent is the operating issue there
12:26 <@Shadow404> aestetix: no shit sherlock, you didnt detect the sarcasm?
12:26 <@rattle> Beware, my kid knows kung fu.  He's got an uncanny ability to land blows right in the nuts.
12:26 <@Corydon76-work> Shadow404: you're a bigger bottom than I am
12:27 <@Shadow404> switch
12:27 <@Shadow404> different
12:27 <@wilpig> rattle: that's just your kid trying to sterilize you
12:27 <@Corydon76-work> Clearly he wants to be an only child
12:27 < aestetix> rattle: so do you have a picket fence?
12:27 <@Shadow404> rattle: by all means, i hope hes successful
12:27 < aestetix> http://www.zdnet.com/yahoo-forced-to-acknowledge-yahoo-mail-problems-in-worst-failure-yet-7000024211/
12:28 < GateKeeper> Title: Yahoo forced to acknowledge Yahoo Mail problems in worst failure yet | ZDNet (at www.zdnet.com)
12:28 <@Corydon76-work> Better reproduce again before he succeeds
12:29 <@Corydon76-work> Or worse... I have a friend going under the knife today for testicular cancer
12:29 <@rattle> I have not yet acquired a picket fence.  Going to buy another house and get out of the "temporary" apartment we're in right now, so maybe then.
12:29 <@rattle> More interested in lions at the end of my driveway.
12:30 <@rattle> Going to go with Italian style rather than Chinese for the lions though..
12:30 <@rattle> Very important stuff.
12:30 <@Shadow404> im curious now, whos the lucky lady?
12:30 < aestetix> rattle: are you gonna live in the suburbs and drive an sub?
12:30 < aestetix> suv
12:30 < aestetix> or a minivan
12:30 < aestetix> I'm just curious how cookie-cutter you're gonna go :p
12:31 <@Shadow404> i can totally see rattle in  minivan
12:31 <@rattle> Driving a CT200h these days..
12:31 <@rattle> Some imagination you got there..
12:31 <@Shadow404> i would of gone audi
12:31 <@Shadow404> for that money
12:31 <@wilpig> rattle: you don't want lions. you want jockeys. http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/593/993/06/o_jockey.jpg
12:32 <@rattle> I got a sweetheart deal.  Payed less than I would have to replace my Prius.
12:32 < aestetix> How about putting a few bulging erect penis statues at the front of your driveway?
12:32 <@rattle> Bought a 2012 model in late December.  They were doing anything they could to get them off the lot.
12:32 <@rattle> One of the benefits of the CT is that i only have to service it every 10-15k miles too.
12:33 <@rattle> aesthetix: Not so much on the big dick statues.  Dick is your thing.
12:33 < aestetix> Dick is more Corydon76-work's thing
12:33 <@rattle> True.
12:33 <@rattle> I'm still adjusting to the burbs.
12:34 < aestetix> Heh.
12:34 < aestetix> I've made a personal pact never to live in the suburbs
12:34 < aestetix> I'll either go city or rural
12:34 <@rattle> Quality of the schools matters, now, all of a sudden...
12:35 < aestetix> There's no good solution to that.
12:35 <@eryc> which burb did you move to?
12:35 < aestetix> I'd honestly prefer to homeschool, but then there's the reintegration problem
12:37 <@rattle> Currently in Acton.
12:37 <@rattle> Pondering a number of the communities in the area.
12:38 <@Shadow404> alright, so who is gonna go and take some pics of orion for me?
12:38 <@rattle> I'd really love to get a place in Concord or Carlisle, but I'm not making _that_ kinda money..  Yet..
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12:41 <@Shadow404> OK GUYS: ive done been challenged: NASA_Langley .@NASA_Langley 4mins Hope we get to see them too! #SpotOrion RT @shadow404: @NASA_Langley @NASA_Orion Just told my friends in TN to get some pictures for me.
12:42 <@wilpig> awww how cute.  Shadow404 disappointed someone on the internets
12:43 <@Shadow404> i do that every day on this channel though?
12:46 <@Dagmar> Pictures of what
12:46 <@rattle> Space capsules gonewild.
12:46 <@Shadow404> the orion test capsule driving between greenville, knoxville and nashville
12:46 <@Dagmar> Oh.  Well, I'm not LOS to the interstate
12:46 <@Dagmar> I'm just close to it
12:46 <@Dagmar> They'd probably be taking it 'round 440
12:46 <@Shadow404> damn, you guys got way to many "villes"
12:47 <@Shadow404> then again, we have how many "peachtrees"
12:47 <@Dagmar> Well, the city gets one free with every ghetto
12:50 <@oddball> Shadow404: You do realize that it's ~250 miles between Nashville and Greenville, TN, right?
12:50 <@oddball> And in other news... I honestly didn't know TN had a Greenville.
12:50 <@Dagmar> We have a Paris and a Moscow as well.  Your point?
12:51 <@Shadow404> oddball: yes, so i wish it had gps trackign so you could track it real time to see it
12:51 <@oddball> That TN is a pretty big state?
12:51 <@Shadow404> im sure it has a security escort if that was a concern for the gps
13:03 <@Dagmar> BTC finally looks like it's beginning to fall again.  Let's see
13:13 <@Shadow404> 30.56 in (1035.4 mb) currently for you guys
13:14 <@Shadow404> though its still higher than yesterday at the same time
13:14 <@Shadow404> 30.42
13:16 <@opticron> Shadow404, 17+ peachtrees at last count
13:16 <@Shadow404> theres gotta be more than that
13:16 <@opticron> that's just "peachtree" whatever
13:16 <@opticron> not all the variants
13:17 <@Shadow404> i found it funny that the new judge dredd was centered around "peachtree" apartments
13:18 <@Shadow404> which was basically a futuristic ghetto
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13:24 <@Dagmar> Exactly.
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13:31 <@Corydon76-work> Shadow404: I'm sure work would let you take off some time to look at what is essentially a hunk of metal
13:31 <@Shadow404> oh of course the would, i got plenty of sick days......
13:31 <@Shadow404> *they
13:31 <@Corydon76-work> Given that it's just a model, and not the actual capsule
13:32 <@Shadow404> i just dont think its worth a 4 hour drive to see what is essentially "just" a test capsule
13:32 <@Shadow404> if it was the actual manned capsule, i might of made an overnight trip of it
13:32 <@Shadow404> taken the 172 up there would be even faster, but then i'd have to rent a car at bna
13:36 <@wilpig> tanya was just telling me that yahoo mail suffered an outage and some of their users might be missing up to two weeks worth of mail.   daaaaaaaaaaamn.
13:37 <@Shadow404> hehe, i could fly back from bna to pdk and take a taxi to work friday morning evening, then taxi back to pdk from work and then fly back to my base airport at ryy
13:38 <@Shadow404> wow, thats a mess up
13:38 <@Shadow404> guess who's not getting their bonus this season...
13:38 <@wilpig> you?
13:39 <@Shadow404> i was talking about yahoo
13:40 <@wilpig> I;m still hoping it was you
13:40 <@Shadow404> i already got my bonus approved
13:40 <@Shadow404> so dream on
13:40 <@Dolemite> Bonus?  What's that?
13:40 <@Shadow404> verizon basically has you do your own appraisal and get it approved
13:40 <@Shadow404> i hate that cop out method
13:41 <@Shadow404> manager should be telling you what they think so you can improve in their eyes if needed
13:41 <@Shadow404> and get your input if you dont agree
13:41 <@wilpig> Dolemite: bonus is another word for 10% of your base
13:41 <@Corydon76-work> I think it's funny that my standard bonus instructions talk of "breakage", which it seems would apply to IT quite well, but they mean physical inventory.
13:41 <@Shadow404> right but hes gov now
13:42 < NoSpellcheker> Corydon76-work: I have had physical inventory breakage here:)
13:42 <@Dolemite> I'm just happy that it looks like we're avoiding another shutdown shitfest in January
13:42 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: or fine china shops
13:42 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: they approved the budget?
13:42 <@Shadow404> or almost?
13:42 <@Dolemite> I said looks like, not definitely
13:43 <@Shadow404> hehe, thats what happened last time to, down to the wire
13:43 <@Shadow404> maven launch almost didnt happen
13:43 < NoSpellcheker> 20 1u servers, fanned across the data center floor like a deck of playing cards.  No "video surveillance" on the event:)
13:44 <@Corydon76-work> It's difficult to break physical inventory when you're not even in the warehouse 99% of the time
13:44 <@Shadow404> i guess you could in theory "brick" equipment by bad configurations
13:45 <@Corydon76-work> Not me, no.  I don't touch firmware.
13:45 <@Corydon76-work> It's all software for me
13:46 <@Corydon76-work> In fact, I just had a period in which I fixed shit that got broken by our *vendor*
13:47 <@Corydon76-work> But our bonuses are based upon the amount of time you've been with the company and how well the company is doing, not your base salary
13:48 <@Shadow404> or your own performance?
13:49 <@Corydon76-work> To the degree that it matters is how well the team did overall in getting product out the door
13:51 <@Shadow404> so, there could be 2 slackers on a 10 person team, and the other 8 people have to do their load, plus pick up what they dont get around too, so you can look good?
13:52 <@Shadow404> thats why i prefer a blanced metrics system
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14:17 <@rattle> The thing about the sign language guy at Mandela's funeral signing complete nonsense for four solid hours is totally hilarious.
14:18 <@rattle> No joke, that specific thing, is something I've always wished would happen.  And I feel sasitified now that it finally did.
14:18  * Shadow404 pats rattle on the head
14:18 <@Shadow404> good for you
14:32 < NoSpellcheker> http://5z8.info/launchexe_pkme
14:42 <@Corydon76-work> rattle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4iGv29J-Mo
14:42 < GateKeeper> Title: Jeff Dunham and Peanut (Deaf People) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:44 <@wilpig> NoSpellcheker: is that link gonna be something I am gonna have to see HR about?
14:44 <@Shadow404> yeah, i just went to load that on my phone to be safe
14:59 < aestetix> http://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2013-December/004891.html
14:59 < GateKeeper> Title: [sudo-discuss] Anyone object to Occupy holding our weekly GA meeting at the common space for a few weeks? (at lists.sudoroom.org)
14:59 < aestetix> that right there is everything wrong wit hthe bay area
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15:11 <@wilpig> NoSpellcheker: I need a picture of brown dog asap
15:11 <@wilpig> now.  like 5 minutes ago
15:11 <@wilpig> 15:02 < cpanayides> so...i need an opinion, i'm trying to choose between two tripods -
15:11 <@wilpig> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FKNS2UC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A17MC6HOH9AVE6 and
15:11 <@wilpig> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AZTCHES/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1ULRCAJY2VDL5
15:13 < NoSpellcheker> you there?
15:13 < NoSpellcheker> Was that you?
15:13 <@wilpig> yes
15:13 < NoSpellcheker> k
15:13 <@wilpig> look up three lines
15:14 < Synx|hm_> wilpig: i got this a few months back, no we are not professional photographers but its worked nicely
15:14 < Synx|hm_> and much cheaper with similar features
15:14 < Synx|hm_> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004RBX0GO/
15:14 < NoSpellcheker> http://amazingmissgrace.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/sweetbrowndog_l.jpg
15:15 < NoSpellcheker> not sure
15:15 < Synx|hm_> also... if you spend more than $35 on amazon you can get 5 off if you link facebook somehow... http://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=6525028&sdfpid=108482&sdop=1&sdpid=64197930&sdfid=9&sdfib=1&lno=1&trd=http+www+amazon+com+gp+socialme+&u2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fsocialmedia%2Fpromotions%2Fwishlist2013%3Ftag%3Dhydfbook0e-20%26amp%3Bascsubtag%3DUS-MUPP-1386116242-AWSSD
15:15 < GateKeeper> Title: Amazon.com Wish, Share, and Shop promotion (at slickdeals.net)
15:15 < NoSpellcheker> Na, just free fallout1/2/tactics
15:16 < NoSpellcheker> you get that?
15:18 <@wilpig> NoSpellcheker: that dog has four legs
15:25 <@wilpig> the joke should have been that NoSpellcheker only wants his tripod <picture of dog> but noooooooo
15:26 < Synx|hm_> wilpig: and now i see that it was not infact you looking for a tripod
15:27 <@Shadow404> you guys are slow
15:27 <@Shadow404> i got the tripod/dog thing right away
15:27 < Synx|hm_> *facepalm*
15:27 < Synx|hm_> ill go back to doing work and not paying attention to this window
15:27 <@wilpig> I passed that info on anyway since i dind't have a joke to send
15:27 < Synx|hm_> context, its a bitch
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15:28 <@Shadow404> database server is down at work, so i get time to catch up on reading, woot
15:30 < Synx|hm_> my cat is acting depressed
15:30 < Synx|hm_> she knows we are packing
15:30 < Synx|hm_> ;(
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15:30 <@Shadow404> your taking her with you, right?
15:30 < Synx|hm> i wish
15:31 < Synx|hm> this is a week long driving trip and we are staying at the destination for 1-2 months
15:31 < Synx|hm> too many hotels, long car rides, and families houses to bring here along
15:31 < Synx|hm> not to mention dogs and outdoor adventures
15:32 <@Corydon76-work> You taking your cat to the pet adventure center?
15:32 <@Corydon76-work> aka a kennel?
15:32 < Synx|hm> hell no
15:32 < Synx|hm> that would be worse, lock her in a tiny cage all day, and cost me a kidney
15:33 < Synx|hm> ive got a friend who lives down the street who is going to come visit her twice a week
15:33 < Synx|hm> im just afraid that will not be enough
15:33 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah, here we have a kid who visits the animals daily
15:33 < Synx|hm> shes very affectionate and folows me around the house all day so she can sit with me
15:34 <@Corydon76-work> I just paid him $50 to come in on 4 days over Thanksgiving
15:34 <@Shadow404> that sucks abotu the cat, never easy for a pet
15:34 <@Corydon76-work> Are you sure you have a cat and not a dog?
15:34 < Synx|hm> i had my neighboor kids do that a few years ago, but they moved and the new neighbors are shifty
15:35 < Synx|hm> Corydon76-work: this cat is just like a dog, she sleeps with us, has to be touching us at all times, she even reaches her paw out to touch us while she is lying down
15:35 < Synx|hm> she also plays fetch
15:35 <@Corydon76-work> Every cat I've ever known comes running for food, but otherwise finds their own things to do during the day
15:35 < Synx|hm> and she hates to be held
15:35 < Synx|hm> so basically yup a dog that shits in a box
15:35 < Synx|hm> shes damn smart too, so its obvious when she knows we are leaving
15:36 <@Corydon76-work> My parents have cats that bring them dead (or nearly dead) animals as offerings
15:36 < Synx|hm> oh and she runs to answer the door whenever someone comes over, she hops up and looks out the door at people, the UPS guy cracks up every time
15:36 <@Corydon76-work> My Siberian Husky is the same way, which is why we took him with us at Thanksgiving.
15:36 < Synx|hm> ya
15:37 < Synx|hm> id love to take her with but she is not an ourdoor cat, and there is just too much to worry about having to bring her along as we are driving across half the country
15:38 <@Corydon76-work> The other thing about us taking road trips is our extremely large bird.  There are lots of people who can take care of cats and dogs, but large parrots are another thing entirely.
15:38 <@Corydon76-work> Tiki scares the beejezus out of people
15:38 < Synx|hm> oh shit, that much be a pain too, and i assume the bird gets depressed too?
15:39 <@Corydon76-work> Birds are easier, in that you can simply leave the TV on, and the talking helps
15:40 <@Corydon76-work> The bird is within view right now, and if I disappear for a long stretch (i.e. use the bathroom), he'll call out for attention.
15:40 <@Corydon76-work> but otherwise, he's pretty good.
15:41 < Synx|hm> nice
15:41 <@Corydon76-work> and then are times like earlier when he was screaming for no particular reason
15:41 < Synx|hm> you know i was watching a Xbox One video the other day and though, man if i had that and some type of remote IR control from my VPN i could pop on skype and hang with the kitty
15:42 < Synx|hm> i just setup a 3rd h264 camera though so i can watch in the main rooms she hangs out
15:42 < Synx|hm> over a long weekend in october i tried that and then tried talking over the camera speaker, poor cat didn't know what to do, she just waited by the front door for hours after that
15:42 < Synx|hm> last time ill make that mistake
15:42 <@Corydon76-work> I wonder, though, how much of it is your voice and image and how much of it is your personal odor
15:42 < Synx|hm> thats a good point
15:43 <@Corydon76-work> Some animals are more about the pheremones than about visual and audio cues
15:43 < Synx|hm> ya i didn't think about that
15:43 < Synx|hm> oh well i just hope my friend spends some time with here when he comes over instead of "oh its a cat, food check, water check, wonder where the cat is... f'it going home"
15:44 < Synx|hm> s/here/her
15:44 <@wilpig> NoSpellcheker: Synx|hm: were you watching me checking on Mirage's cats?
15:44 <@Corydon76-work> Does your friend normally interact with the cat?
15:44 < NoSpellcheker> wtf?  Every damn site I try to visit is blocked.
15:45 < NoSpellcheker> don't think so
15:45 < Synx|hm> Corydon76-work: he came over to get the details the other day and picked her up and was playing with her
15:45 < Synx|hm> he loves animals (has two dogs of his own)
15:45 <@Corydon76-work> Well, that's comforting
15:46 < Synx|hm> and the cat doesn't care who it is so long as she gets attention, ofcourse she knows who i am and will miss me i am sure
15:46 < Synx|hm> ive had her since whe was a tiny kitten (rescue) and its obvious that her and my wife are jelious of eachother at times haha
15:47 <@Corydon76-work> Last night, I found out a new thing about my bird.
15:47 <@Corydon76-work> Normally, he gets pissed after about 10 seconds of scratching the back of his neck
15:47 < Synx|hm> both fighting for premo couch seating next to me
15:47 < Synx|hm> haha
15:47 <@Corydon76-work> I realized he was pissed because he was moving his neck, trying to get me to scratch a different area
15:48 <@Corydon76-work> and when I kept scratching the same area, it was a reaction, of "No, idiot, keep your finger in the same place, and I'll move my neck to what needs scratched."
15:48 < Synx|hm> haha
15:50 <@Corydon76-work> Oh, and this parrot, when he thinks you're ignoring him, will meow like a cat to get your attention
15:51 <@Corydon76-work> Turning on the vacuum cleaner is a surefire way to get him to meow.
15:51 < Synx|hm> haha nice
15:52 <@Corydon76-work> So yes, my cat has feathers
15:52 < Synx|hm> ive got a good friend who has/had a parrot, the bird loved him, it would even shower with him, but they just had a child and the bird hates the kid so they are struggling with the decision to give the bird away because it doesn't seem to be happy anymore
15:52 < Synx|hm> its started pulling out its feathers
15:53 <@Corydon76-work> Birds only do that when they feel neglected
15:53 <@Corydon76-work> And once a bird forcibly removes a feather, it will never regrow.
15:53 < Synx|hm> oh duno then, this guy loves his bird so i wasn't thinking it would be that
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15:53 < Synx|hm> oh that sucks
15:54 < Synx|hm> but ya its for sure getting less attention as they have a 4 month old in the house
15:54 < Synx|hm> i also have a 4 month old and the cat is fanally warming up to the little guy
15:54 <@Corydon76-work> Birds are like 3 year old human children.  They get insanely jealous of attention you're giving to another
15:55 <@Corydon76-work> but unlike children, they never grow up mentally
15:55 < Synx|hm> ya
15:55 < Synx|hm> are parrots the smartest breed?
15:56 <@Corydon76-work> Parrots are a class of breeds, not a single breed.
15:56 <@Shadow404> some children never grow up
15:56 < Synx|hm> oh
15:56 < Synx|hm> Shadow404: some? I'd say the vast majority i encounter on the daily basis
15:56 <@Corydon76-work> I have a macaw, and it's only the second most talkative of the parrots
15:57 <@Corydon76-work> African Greys are the most talkative
15:57 <@Corydon76-work> Intelligence is difficult to gauge with birds, since each breed has a different forte.
15:58 < Synx|hm> saw at kid at the dr office yesterday, must have been 18ish by his size, and he refused to fill out any paperwork his dad handed to him, he sat there silent having a little fit because he didn't want to avert his attention from his phone, he dad got so fed up he tossed the paperwork in his face and told the lady at the front desk, hes a grown ass man acting like a child he knows the answeres to the questions and will fill them out, i will retu
15:58 <@wilpig> lol
15:59 < Synx|hm> the dad then proceded to have a melt down on the phone with the ins. company and the woman at the front desk, so i am sure thats where that kid learned to behave
15:59 <@Corydon76-work> As they say, if you gauge your pets on their ability to climb trees, your fish are going to look retarded every time.
15:59 < Synx|hm> i thought about saying something, but then got confused about which one to scold for acking like a child
16:00 <@Corydon76-work> Yep, sometimes the best thing to happen to a child is to leave the care of his/her parents
16:01 <@Corydon76-work> I get along swimmingly with my mother now that I live 3 states away.
16:02 < Synx|hm> ha indeed
16:02 <@Shadow404> same
16:02 <@Shadow404> my dad get along great
16:06 < Synx|hm> Corydon76-work: are there any big enterprise companies using Asterisk in production environments for call centers?
16:07 < Synx|hm> agent logon, control, CTI data, extension and device control etc
16:08 <@Corydon76-work> Yes, there are
16:08 < Synx|hm> few or lots?
16:08 <@Corydon76-work> I don't know
16:08 <@Corydon76-work> I know a few that are clients of min
16:08 <@Corydon76-work> mine
16:09 < Synx|hm> I ask because i work for a company that does a lot of big big enterprise and service providor VOIP testing, from CTI to voice quality to agent control/simulation
16:09 < Synx|hm> and not once have i run into a customer using Asterisk, they all use Avaya Aura, Cisco UCM, or in some cases Genssys SIP systems
16:10 <@Corydon76-work> First exposure I had with a larger test company is one that told us that Asterisk failed their tests and wanted us to pay them to explain how it failed.
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16:10 < Synx|hm> nice
16:10 <@Corydon76-work> and I basically laughed at them
16:10 < Synx|hm> who was it?
16:10 <@Corydon76-work> I don't remember
16:11 < Synx|hm> that doesn't really surprise me though, all involved in this business are always looks for more ways to get money from companies
16:11 < Synx|hm> we have partnerships though with the big three solutions providers so they often end up selling us with their upgrades
16:12 <@Corydon76-work> Also, because our bug tracker showed up pretty high in Google results, I retitled their highly inflammatory titled bug report to ensure it wasn't going to be a problem
16:12 < Synx|hm> wow
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16:13 < Synx|hm> of all the systems ive seen with the crazy licenses requirements for each silly option, and the complexity of deployement for what is an over prised suse box with some c code, asterisk should be killing the market
16:14 < Synx|hm> i guess people are just scared of a system they are going to have to own at the end of the day, instead of falling back on avaya or cisco and saying, it doesn't work deploy your professional services team to fix it
16:16 <@Corydon76-work> Well, there's something to be said for being able to pay someone to blame them, though at the end of the day, blame doesn't solve the problem
16:17 <@Corydon76-work> I know, and my boss knows that our vendor broke our web integration interface, and we have a ticket open with the vendor on it.  But they likely won't fix it for 6 months.
16:17 <@Corydon76-work> We can blame them for the breakage, but that doesn't help us ship product.
16:20 < Synx|hm> that degree of common sense is hard to find up the corporate ladder
16:24 <@wilpig> alright.  i'm dressed up for the tumblr christmas party and i'm already hot.  how do you people regularly wear long sleaves?  I just don't get this shit
16:24 <@wilpig> long sleave, sweat
16:25 < Synx|hm> i had that issue when i started wearing dress shirts again for the first time in about 8 years, it took me about 4 months to stop sweating all over myself
16:25 < Synx|hm> not sure what fixed it though as i did not change deoderant
16:26 < aestetix> hey look
16:26 < aestetix> another meeting of the bay area communist society: http://www.doubleunion.org/blog/67678148055-last-day-of-indiegogo-to-build-out-double-union
16:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Double Union | A hacker/maker space for women in San Francisco (at www.doubleunion.org)
16:28 <@wilpig> double union?  is that scissoring?
16:28 < aestetix> oh wow
16:28 < aestetix> https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-December/041109.html
16:28 < GateKeeper> Title: [Noisebridge-discuss] Anyone have problems with booting out overnight sleepers in the morning? (at www.noisebridge.net)
16:28 < aestetix> Someone made a fake account to parody someone. Someone else just called that fake account out for using potentially hurtful language.
16:29 < aestetix> This is ridiculous
16:29 <@rattle> Good reading.. http://carnegieendowment.org/2013/12/12/u.s.-china-security-perceptions-survey-findings-and-implications/gvqk
16:29 < aestetix> I want to troll them so hard
16:30 < aestetix> "Hi, I take objection to your words. I'm an anti-feminist, I believe women (like me) should stay home, cook and clean for their husbands...."
16:32 <@Shadow404> orion is currently in baileyton, tn
16:32 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: that's not necessarily anti-feminist, as feminism is about having a choice.  You're perfectly welcome to choose to do that if you like.
16:32 < aestetix> ok
16:33 < aestetix> What if I sent it using the name "Phyllis Schlafly"
16:33 < aestetix> ""By getting married, the woman has consented to sex, and I don't think you can call it rape."
16:33 < aestetix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly direct quote
16:33 < GateKeeper> Title: Phyllis Schlafly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
16:34 < aestetix> I guess in that context the choice was getting married
16:45 <@Corydon76-work> At one time, it was the law in some places that a man could not rape his wife, as the wife was effectively his property
16:45 <@Corydon76-work> and schlafly would no doubt like to return to those days
16:46 <@Corydon76-work> though I really don't understand the inclination towards less freedom
16:47 <@Corydon76-work> She is certainly welcome not to press charges when raped by her husband, but I don't understand why she feels the need to restrict other women from doing the same
16:47 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: oh I know.
16:47 < aestetix> I went to highschool with her grandkid.
16:47 < aestetix> I had to deal with that shit a lot.
16:48 <@Corydon76-work> Usually the offspring of those loonies are little less loony
16:48 <@Corydon76-work> Grandson or granddaughter?
16:48 < aestetix> Grandson
16:49 < aestetix> I imagine a granddaughter would be busy making quilts and cooking dinner
16:49 <@Shadow404> she better be in the damn kitchen!
16:49 < Synx|hm> i am really avoiding packing for this long trip, i HATE packing so much
16:49 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah, anybody on the privileged side frequently cannot see what the big deal is
16:49 < Synx|hm> so so much
16:49 < Synx|hm> and i still need to clean the car, vaccume etc, and pack all the child support gear
16:49 <@Corydon76-work> It's why when I hear a guy making the argument against feminism, it's easy to dismiss
16:50 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: most arguments against feminism are.
16:50 < aestetix> That said, most arguments FOR it are also idiotic, depending on the argument.
16:50 < aestetix> Like "Men are not allowed to have input because they are part of the oppressor class"
16:50 <@Corydon76-work> Oh, there are a few winners, no doubt
16:51 < aestetix> This seems to be really common with women who were raised by abusive fathers.
16:52 < aestetix> Although ti strikes me as difficult to understand how, say, a catholic alter boy abused by a priest could be considered an oppressor
16:52 <@Corydon76-work> The problem with such an argument is that in any prospective solution, you need to have buy-in by those who would cede control
16:53 <@Shadow404> as long as the women is in the kitchen fixing me dinner when i get home, i have no problem with feminism
16:53 <@Corydon76-work> Those who advocate taking control, as opposed to having another cede it willingly, often find themselves as having a lot in common with criminals
16:57 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: yep
16:59 <@Corydon76-work> I think the problem is that history remembers the revolutions that succeeded and forget the ones which failed, making revolution seem like a sure thing.
17:00 <@wilpig> Headed into the city.  wish me luck peole
17:00 <@wilpig> people*
17:00 < aestetix> wilpig: remember our chat ;)
17:01 < aestetix> and have fun
17:01 < aestetix> /msg wilpig the discussion about licking soup out of pig anuses
17:01 < aestetix> shit
17:02 <@Dagmar> s/revolution/uprisings/
17:04 < NoSpellcheker> Why are "smart" people so stupid?
17:05 <@Dickie> Common sense is beneath us
17:24 <@Dagmar> ...because we're not allowed to euthanize stupid people, and stupid is contagious.
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17:39 <@rattle> Tomorrow CAP is going to disclose all it's corporate donors.  I never thought that'd ever happen..  Wow.
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18:20 < NoSpellcheker> That was probably the funniest phone call I've had since I started working here.
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18:21 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uCWqTqz18Lo#t=373
18:21 < GateKeeper> Title: RICH KID KILLS 4 PEOPLE. AVOIDS JAIL BECAUSE HES TOO RICH. - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:22 < RangerZ> affluenza..
18:22 < RangerZ> if there was ever a 'disease' that I wanted... thats it
18:23 <@Dickie> I have hipititis
18:23 <@Dickie> Terminal coolness
18:42 <@SuMo_D> Dickie is it catching?
18:57 <@Dickie> If I play my cards right
18:58 < RangerZ> Dickie: did you get those ruffies you ordered off of silk road before it shut down?
19:18 < RangerZ> http://sourcefed.com/amazing-dont-drink-drive-prank/ wow...
19:18 < RangerZ> this is epic
19:19 < RangerZ> SFW
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19:51 < RangerZ> huh
19:51 < RangerZ> http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/12/12/answering-call-cell-phone-unlocking
19:51 < GateKeeper> Title: Answering the Call on Cell Phone Unlocking | The White House (at www.whitehouse.gov)
19:52 < RangerZ> apparently the phone companies are letting you 'unlock' your phone now voluntarily
19:53 < RangerZ> now we need the cell phones to all be compatible on each other's network
19:53 < RangerZ> THEN we'll see real competition
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20:10 <@eryc> http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/12/12/250556545/kim-jong-uns-uncle-formerly-north-koreas-no-2-is-executed
20:10 < GateKeeper> Title: Kim Jong Un's Uncle, Formerly North Korea's No. 2, Is Executed : The Two-Way : NPR (at www.npr.org)
20:10 <@eryc> damn
20:15 < RangerZ> "behaved so arrogantly and insolently as unwillingly standing up from his seat and half-heartedly clapping"
20:15 < RangerZ> .... yeah....
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20:45 < aestetix> vagina
20:50 <@SuMo_D> aestetix did you find last night's south park yet?
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20:57 < aestetix> SuMo_D: yes
20:57 < aestetix> it was fucking hilarious
20:57 <@SuMo_D> One of their best
20:57 <@eryc> oh rly
20:58 <@SuMo_D> nothing beat Mecca Striesand though
20:59 <@SuMo_D> aestetix I think I found my reason to move to the bay area
20:59 <@SuMo_D> so I can wear something like this http://www.dhgate.com/product/dhgate/131683064.html/?utm_source=pla&utm_medium=GMC&utm_campaign=idodress&utm_term=131683064&f=bm%7c131683064%7c002009-SpecialOccasionDresses%7cGMC%7cAdwords%7cpla%7cidodress%7cUS%7c002009008-QuinceaneraDresses%7cc%7cOSHNBM%7c%7c&gclid=CNyH8qSNqrsCFe5j7AodVGoAcw
20:59 < GateKeeper> Title: Wholesale Quinceanera Dresses - Buy Junoesque Ball Gown Strapless Red And Black Rhinestone Beaded Anke Length Quinceanera Dresses A2-60, $170.45 | DHgate (at www.dhgate.com)
20:59 <@SuMo_D> ALL THE TIME
21:00 <@SuMo_D> eryc yeah... it was great... taking on photoshop and feminism... was a wondrous time
21:05 < aestetix> SuMo_D: I thought it was also a brilliant take on picking the right battles
21:07 <@SuMo_D> yep
21:07 < aestetix> http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x25B37ACACC82107B
21:07 < GateKeeper> Title: Search results for '0x25b37acacc82107b' (at pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371)
21:07 < aestetix> trolling the web of trust was never this much fun
21:11 <@SuMo_D> aaaand this new OS kills another ap that I need... why was I so dumb to upgrade when I didn't really need to....
21:11 <@SuMo_D> its a little faster... but not worth this bullshit...
21:12 <@SuMo_D> f'n inkscape... such a jerk anyway... but the eggbot uses the plugin through it
21:19 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: what OS?
21:19 < RangerZ> win7 to 8?
21:23 <@SuMo_D> osx 10.6 to 10.9 for apple
21:23 < RangerZ> or ubuntu aka... the OS that wants to kill baby seals
21:23 < RangerZ> ahh
21:24 <@SuMo_D> I've been an apple user literally my whole life....
21:24 <@SuMo_D> my dad got the first family computer the year I was born.... and it was an early mac
21:24 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... my hatred for them grows....
21:24 <@SuMo_D> but too much invested in software to switch yet
21:24 <@SuMo_D> and 95% of the time... they just work... and work well
21:25 < RangerZ> that 5%
21:25 < RangerZ> bitch slaps you like you went out on a date with R kelly when you were 14
21:27 <@Corydon76-work> SuMo_D: Oh, so you're too young to remember the GOOD Apple computers, then
21:27 < RangerZ> when woz worked on them
21:28 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-J93Uge_Zg
21:28 < GateKeeper> Title: First Amendment Only Protects Christians, Says Bryan Fischer - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
21:29 < RangerZ> about the christian/satanist/hindu statue BS
21:29 <@Corydon76-work> Sometimes you wonder if some of those idiots are just trolling the world
21:29 < RangerZ> i'm pretty sure bill orielly is
21:29 <@Corydon76-work> like Andy Kaufman didn't really die
21:30 < RangerZ> Corydon76-work: the smartest prof i've ever had... is a right winger
21:30 <@Corydon76-work> Nothing prevents right wingers from being smart or of smart people from being right wingers.
21:31 < RangerZ> feels "icky"
21:31 <@Corydon76-work> But if you're an idiot, you're a right winger
21:31 < RangerZ> lol
21:32 <@SuMo_D> they took calendars off of their default widgets... wtf... whhhhhhhhhhy
21:33 <@SuMo_D> I finally figured out where they hid the f'n scroll bars... why would you need to hide scroll bars? why why why....
21:35 <@Corydon76-work> Seems like Apple mucks up the interface "just because it's there" on every release
21:35 <@Corydon76-work> And they keep trying to make the desktop and the tablet converge
21:35 <@SuMo_D> pretty much
21:36 <@SuMo_D> that's why I've been resisting updating for so long
21:36 <@Corydon76-work> Windows 8 is precisely why they shouldn't do that.
21:36 <@SuMo_D> I'll say it too... the iPad is the dumbest thing ever
21:37 <@SuMo_D> I mean... why no USB... why!
21:37 <@SuMo_D> only runs "apps"
21:37 <@SuMo_D> wtf
21:37 <@Corydon76-work> Uh, I like my iPad fine
21:37 <@SuMo_D> well, that's good
21:37 <@SuMo_D> I mean I guess it did pioneer the tablet market
21:37 <@Corydon76-work> It has no USB for the same reason that the iMac got rid of the floppy drive
21:38 <@SuMo_D> well, my brother *who works for Mirosoft got me a Surface Pro
21:38 <@SuMo_D> and I like it better
21:38 <@Corydon76-work> Well, sure the *pro* version
21:38 <@Corydon76-work> In other words, you escaped the worst of the platform decisions
21:39 <@Corydon76-work> Chrome doesn't run on the Surface
21:40 <@SuMo_D> I use firefox on it
21:40 <@SuMo_D> works fine
21:40 <@Corydon76-work> Right, again, on the *Pro*
21:40 <@Corydon76-work> They ditched the "RT" moniker on the other one, but it's still as bad as the RT
21:41 <@Corydon76-work> It won't run anything other than *signed* apps
21:41 <@Corydon76-work> and if MS thinks you're their enemy, they won't let your app run
21:42 <@Corydon76-work> As boneheaded as Apple can be, they will still let anybody create an app
21:42 <@SuMo_D> yeah, he gave us one of the first ones too... but I barely touch it
21:42 <@SuMo_D> its nice for netflix I guess
21:43 <@Corydon76-work> So's the iPad... or a Google Nexus
21:43 <@SuMo_D> hmmm
21:43 <@Corydon76-work> but the Surface Pro is what the RT should have been
21:43 <@SuMo_D> yes
21:44 <@SuMo_D> ok I need to restart I think I found a work around for inkscape, brb
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21:56 < aestetix> ugh
22:00 < aestetix> Doing C development in Windows is like a programmer's version of a Kafka story
22:00 < aestetix> "One day Gregor Samson awoke and discovered he was stuck inside of a Windows development environment."
22:01 <@SuMo_D> lol
22:03 < aestetix> it's so bad
22:09 <@eryc> so uh
22:09 <@eryc> i watched that south park
22:10 <@eryc> it was pretty shitty overall
22:15 < RangerZ> eryc: watch out SuMo_D might sumo you
22:15 < RangerZ> which i'm sure is not the first time thats been said.... but... *shrugs*
22:17 <@SuMo_D> meh... everyone is entitled to their opinion
22:18 <@SuMo_D> I enjoyed it
22:19 <@SuMo_D> eggbot is functioning again :D
22:21 <@eryc> the kim k is a hobbit meme was amusing
22:27 < aestetix> eryc: how so?
22:30 < aestetix> here's soemthing I want to post on twitter
22:30 < aestetix> but fauxminists will attack me
22:30 < aestetix> The Microsoft version of A Modest Proposal, in which, on a budget, they harvest crack-babies, and everyone gets sick.
22:52 < RangerZ> them harvesting crack babies and everyone getting sick... wasn't that called win 98?
22:53 < RangerZ> and 'crack baby' apparently is a bad label, since most babies actually born to crack addicted mothers, are fine after a few months, as long as they are given proper medical treatment, etc (but the media wouldn't scare us with 'war on drugs' false info or anything :/ )
22:54 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDhiXuq6G9E fucking MI
22:54 < GateKeeper> Title: Rape Insurance Law Restricts Abortion Access For Victims - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:09 <@Catonic> ..
23:09 <@Catonic> rape insurance? So do they raise your premium if your skirt gets to short?
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23:24 < notlarry> well fm
23:29 < notlarry> 1 1/2 hour lunch break
23:30 < notlarry> I wish I worked here:|
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