--- Log opened Wed Dec 11 00:00:08 2013 --- Day changed Wed Dec 11 2013 00:00 < Synx|hm_> http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/Intermatic/Documentation/Timers/In-Wall/Electronic/ST01/ST01%20Instructions.ashx 00:00 < Synx|hm_> i have the timer on the hot side 00:00 < Synx|hm_> confirmed that just a second ago with my pinky finger ;) 00:05 < Synx|hm_> well here is part of the issue 00:06 < Synx|hm_> what i though was a direct switch to switch 3way line is hooked up somewhere to a lamp, i get 100ish volts across it when it is completely disconnected at both ends at each switch 00:06 < Synx|hm_> WTF 00:07 <@SuMo_D> Fuuuuu wilpig I knew there was a reason that I HATED updating... OSX Mavericks fucks up the serial/TTL shite - they tried to get all fancy and now I need to go install and reinstall things to get the ports to work properly - it has killed my arduino ports... and the arduino IDE isn't loading either... 00:07 <@SuMo_D> blare 00:09 < aestetix> fuck windows so hard 00:12 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: you still up/ 00:12 < Synx|hm_> ? 00:13 <@SuMo_D> aestetix we should let OS X Mavericks and Windows fuck together and blow up the world with their fucking antichrist child 00:13 <@SuMo_D> ok... gotta restart to see if this fix works... 00:13 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 00:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 00:14 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15 <@Catonic> yeah, patching a server 00:16 <@Catonic> Synx|hm_: ^ 00:16 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 00:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 00:16 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: so... i have a terrible feeling i am not dealing with a dedicated traviling pair in this 3way... you any good at code? think its possible they are switching elsewhere? 00:17 < aestetix> I'm getting to enjoy the magical symphony of setting up the cflags, make, wait 20 minutes until there is an error, troubleshoot the error, and repeat 00:18 <@Catonic> ah 00:18 <@Catonic> I see what they are doing 00:18 < aestetix> I think there's a line in here that's "if user==aestetix then sigfault" 00:18 <@Catonic> the code issue on the light is... does the black go into the light box at the ceiling, or does it come into one of the three-way lightswitches. 00:19 <@Catonic> the way I was told is that "by code", the uninterrupted power goes to the light fixture box. Then it's doglegged down to the light switch, then back on the white of that cable (14-2), which has been tagged with black tape. 00:20 <@Catonic> so the wire to the load is white with black tape, goes to where the black wire would on the load/light. 00:20 <@SuMo_D> now what is this bullshit "cannot open this download because it is from an unidentified developer" ...... that is some BULLSHIT 00:21 < aestetix> oh the signed package stuff? 00:21 < aestetix> can't you override that? 00:21 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: ya im not sure that is happening... btw this is controling 4 recessed lights 00:22 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: i found the hot on one side, and i tried to isolate the other two travlers by shorting them and checking resistance at the other end, there is some load between them :( 00:23 <@Catonic> what they are doing is leaking power through the load to power the timer part of the switch 00:23 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: i should clairify here, i am the one installing a timer, before it was two simple 3ways 00:24 <@SuMo_D> yeah... trying to fix it 00:24 <@SuMo_D> this is just the whole reason why I hate updates 00:24 < Synx|hm_> and they worked, but i can only assume because they are switching down to nuteral instead of doing a true 3way if that makes sense 00:24 <@SuMo_D> it worked... worked great... why did I do this... 00:24 <@Catonic> three-ways not so simple 00:25 < Synx|hm_> my wife is waiting for me in bed and is going to be terribly pissed it i go into the attic 00:25 <@Catonic> the 3-way light switch is SPDT... so through the light switch, you should be able to tell which screw is the "switch blade" 00:25 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: it theory it should be, one hot on one side, one netural on the other, and two travleres in between 00:26 < Synx|hm_> yes i have idenitified 100% the hot side common, and i think i have the neutral neutral 00:26 < Synx|hm_> ugh spelling 00:27 < Synx|hm_> well its not common really is it ha 00:27 <@Catonic> yeah, if you cut loose the switches, you should get one hot wire and one load wire between them. 00:28 < Synx|hm_> you see the diagram for this timmer? 00:28 <@Catonic> run a jumper across the room, or put the multimeter on amps and you should get light when you connect "hot" to "load" 00:28 <@Catonic> I've got the diagram in front of me 00:29 < Synx|hm_> so backwards how they want you to jump the one side so the "sense" switch can work 00:29 < Synx|hm_> why the fuck didn't they just do a SPDT 00:30 < Synx|hm_> there a three diagrams on it, and non of them have the load on the A or B wires 00:30 < Synx|hm_> which i think is what ive got 00:30 < Synx|hm_> i have a fucking EE degree why the fuck is this so hard 00:30 <@Catonic> ... and now I'm confused. 00:31 < Synx|hm_> did the jumper part just blow your mind? 00:31 <@Catonic> because we're trying to understand a more simplistic way of describing the same material 00:31 <@Catonic> that's what got me.. 00:31 < Synx|hm_> dude... i have been hooking up these timers about once every two years now for about 8 years 00:31 <@Catonic> oh 00:31 <@Catonic> it's failsafe stupidproof 00:31 < Synx|hm_> and every fucking time my mind gets blown more and bore 00:31 < Synx|hm_> more 00:32 < Synx|hm_> every year i hook up the timer to this circuit i give up after a few days and just say fuck it ill tape the other switch to on 00:32 <@Catonic> they basically have you enrig the circuit so it always is a single-leg circuit, and the timer incorporates the red wire as a sense line for the remote switch 00:32 <@Catonic> i.e.: red = inhibit if red touches blue. 00:32 < Synx|hm_> yup 00:33 < Synx|hm_> except it doesn't fucking work if you have the load inbetween (at least thats my theory of what i have going on) 00:33 < Synx|hm_> i get to a point where, the timmer cycles one and off non stop, my guess is because of the load inbetween 00:33 < Synx|hm_> s/one/on 00:33 <@Catonic> If someone put the load between two three-way switches, they should be hauled out and shot. That's a major safety no-no. 00:34 <@Catonic> OK, that's an indicator.. 00:34 <@Catonic> the reason why the bastardize the circuits is so you always have 120V across the timer, thus allowing it to always be powered 00:34 <@Catonic> Are you controlling lights or fan with the timer? 00:34 < Synx|hm_> ahh right that makes sense now 00:35 < Synx|hm_> lights, 4 recessed ones, and the other 3 way happens to be a dimmer (but even before i put the dimmer in i had the same issues) 00:35 <@Catonic> ... three-way... dimmer? That makes my head hurt. 00:36 -!- upthedose [~upthedose@75-131-121-67.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:36 < Synx|hm_> dimmer is on the neutral side and is current limiting no matter what wire you choose to traverse as hot ;) 00:36 < Synx|hm_> but ya its not helping my brain 00:36 <@Catonic> oh, the neutral side being facing the load 00:37 <@Catonic> and if the dimmer is being used, it's chopping AC at different points in the 60-Hz cycle 00:37 < Synx|hm_> well you would think so but... im guessing not in this case 00:37 < Synx|hm_> probably so i need to ditch the dimmer at least while the timer is in use? 00:38 <@Catonic> Yes, or provide a constant load for the timer. 00:38 <@Catonic> I don't see any "minimum load" listing on it 00:38 < Synx|hm_> i should note i tried this at one point with out the dimmer and ran into the same issues 00:38 < Synx|hm_> but didn't spend as much time figuring out which wire was what 00:38 <@Catonic> Hey... DC loads, 4A @ 12V... 00:39 < Synx|hm_> ya thats printed on the side 00:39 <@Catonic> got any wire-wound resistors handy? 00:39 < Synx|hm_> no sir :( 00:39 < Synx|hm_> what you thinking? 00:40 <@Catonic> hrm 00:40 <@Catonic> I think I just got a better idea 00:40 <@Catonic> I was thinking, put a resistor on the load side of the timer, and before the dimmer. 00:40 < Synx|hm_> i can pull the dimmer for now to figure this fucking circuit out if need by' 00:40 < Synx|hm_> be 00:41 <@Catonic> now I see you just need one across the dimmer. 00:41 < Synx|hm_> how about i just eliminate the dimmer for now to make this "simple" 00:41 <@Catonic> depends, does it want fixed or does it want wife happy? 00:42 <@Catonic> The dimmer is probable a dual-MOSFET or IGBT device, with the "common" side facing the load. 00:42 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43 <@Catonic> that way both can be switched, and if there is power on one side (as there should only be power on one side of the "inputs" to a SPDT switch with the knife blade facing the load) without creating a cross-feed hazard 00:43 <@Catonic> Easiest way to "eliminate" the dimmer? Turn it on full blast and forget about it. 00:44 < Synx|hm_> ya i tried on full to make sure it wasn't part of the issue 00:44 < Synx|hm_> but i just put in a normal 3way ill let you know in a sec if it works 00:44 <@Catonic> as a "short", it will activate the "inhibit" (red) lead of the timer. 00:45 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 00:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 00:46 <@Catonic> I bet you could put a 7W lightbulb across the "load" terminals or the dimmer and get the timer to behave. 00:46 < Synx|hm_> HO-LEE-FOOK 00:46 < Synx|hm_> it works 00:47 < Synx|hm_> so ya, i need a load on the dimmer 00:47 < Synx|hm_> god im glad it makes sense now 00:47 <@Catonic> you need a load ahead of the dimmer 00:48 <@Catonic> OOH 00:48 <@Catonic> relay 00:48 <@Catonic> contactor 00:48 < Synx|hm_> right 00:48 <@Catonic> wait... that might not.. 00:49 <@Catonic> so if you turn the dimmer down, the other three-way switch can be flipped and it turns the light on? 00:49 <@Catonic> and if the dimmer is off, the other switch turns the dimmer on? 00:50 <@Catonic> sounds like a PWM 00:50 < Synx|hm_> nope 00:50 < Synx|hm_> it cycles 00:50 < Synx|hm_> in one position the timer works, if the dimmer is in the other position it cycles the dimmer constantly 00:50 <@Catonic> so flipping the 3-way switch causes the dimmer to turn off? 00:50 <@Catonic> just 3-way to dimmer, without the timer. 00:50 < Synx|hm_> yes 00:51 < Synx|hm_> it cuts the hot side to the dimmer 00:51 <@Catonic> but if the dimmer is off, does the 3-way cause the light to come on? 00:51 <@SuMo_D> Yea!!! problems fixed.... 00:51 < Synx|hm_> yes 00:51 < Synx|hm_> at the dimmer level setting 00:52 <@SuMo_D> but so dumb they were there to begin with... I really really hate that "we made it better!" no wait - we fucked up a lot of shit you really needed and were using happily... but BETTER! 00:52 <@Catonic> so it's not possible to have the dimmer set to "off" and flip the far-side switch and get full-bright? 00:53 <@Catonic> SuMo_D: don't get me started on software tonight. I'm overdue for a drink already. 00:53 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: no 00:53 <@SuMo_D> yeah, I wanted to have 2 awesome light boards for tomorrow... but at least this one is finally friggin' working... as is the wiring... which was also being a bitch 00:53 <@Catonic> cool 00:54 <@SuMo_D> guess I should get some rest - good luck with your project 00:54 <@Catonic> SuMo_D: had a friend who wrote the code for a pyrotechnics controller. Did a reset with the board wired up in "safety". The reset toggled all outputs. Whoops. 00:54 <@SuMo_D> aaaack! 00:55 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: so basically what i think is happening, with the timmer in place and the way they want the jumper for the sense wire, in one pisition the dimmer correctly limits current and dimms the lights, in the other pisition it starts off with enough voltage potential on the red "sense" wire of the timmer but as the timmer trips on the current load changes which then feeds right back into the senese wire due to the dimmer causing a cycle 00:55 <@Catonic> yeah, back to the drawing board, because they had a show in 20 minutes and were wiring up at that moment. 00:56 <@Catonic> Synx|hm_: right, without hystersis. 00:56 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IOupKUIGQ0 wow... looks like DC wants to kill this movie 00:56 < GateKeeper> Title: DEATH of SUPERMAN in Man of Steel 2?! - ETC - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 00:56 <@Catonic> got a 120VAC relay handy? 00:57 <@Catonic> wow, I just thought of something ... pretty wrong, electrically. 00:58 <@Catonic> Synx|hm_: and you need an EE to figure out how to wire up that timer switch AND the dimmer switch... LOL 00:58 <@SuMo_D> oh shit.. thought it was ok... now there's a pixel shift... doh... 00:58 <@SuMo_D> one wire is off somewhere... loves it 01:01 <@Catonic> Synx|hm_: If you run hot over to the dimmer first 01:01 <@Catonic> put a resistor across the dimmer from hot to one leg.. 01:02 <@Catonic> use that leg as the "Black"/Hot connection into the timer. 01:03 <@Catonic> but then you can't inhibit the dimmer because the timer will always be hot 01:03 <@Catonic> the timer HAS to always be hot 01:04 <@Catonic> but the timer expects there to be 0V or 120VAC on the inhibt lead. 01:04 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: i am a fucking EE haha 01:04 <@Catonic> that's the perfect storm 01:05 < Synx|hm_> ok wall plates back on (except where i put this timer in multi gang boxes :( ) and all working 01:06 < Synx|hm_> im going to crawl into bed and pretend i was in bed hours ago so the wire if not pissed in the mornign 01:06 < Synx|hm_> thanks Catonic for all your help!!!! 01:06 <@Catonic> np 01:06 <@Catonic> thank my customer for keeping me up late. ;) 01:06 <@Catonic> hey 01:06 <@Catonic> you got an email? 01:07 < Synx|hm_> ya, i was up till 5am because of a customer 01:07 <@Catonic> I remember we talked something about ham radio last time, damned if I can remember what it was. 01:08 < Synx|hm_> ya 01:08 < Synx|hm_> i have the book 01:08 < Synx|hm_> going to study over the holiday and get my license 01:09 < Synx|hm_> we were talking about antenna design though if i recall 01:09 < Synx|hm_> ok im going to bed 01:09 < Synx|hm_> g'night 01:09 <@Catonic> night, goodluck 01:09 < Synx|hm_> thanks 01:09 -!- Synx|hm_ is now known as Synx|sleepytime 01:09 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44 < aestetix> ugh 01:44 < aestetix> I fixed one thing which broke another 01:47 < RangerZ> aestetix: its obvious that its your fault 01:47 < aestetix> yep 01:47 < RangerZ> I'm actually really hopeful that gradle support for c++ becomes 'real' 01:48 < RangerZ> make needs to die a long over due death 01:54 < RangerZ> << is assuming you're talking about your c++ thing 02:03 < aestetix> yep 02:03 < aestetix> actually 02:03 < aestetix> I've been using scons 02:03 < aestetix> on the plus side 02:03 < aestetix> it's been nice getting a gdb refresher 02:05 < RangerZ> never used a debugger for c++ 02:05 < RangerZ> never found a need, good code can be debugged by logs alone 02:06 < RangerZ> BUT 02:06 < RangerZ> c++ makes logging pretty much fucking impossible with its 'objects can be deconstructed in any order' BS 02:09 < RangerZ> or w/e it was 02:09 < RangerZ> ACE has a 'decent' logger, and boost's is screwy 02:12 < RangerZ> aestetix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERq5F6d8Lxg 02:12 < GateKeeper> Title: YouTube Content ID Claims Run Rampant - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 02:12 < RangerZ> remember me telling you that youtube's content system was going to be ramped up 02:19 < aestetix> yes 02:19 < aestetix> RangerZ: this whole thing is fascinating to me. 02:20 < aestetix> IMHO it all boils down to attribution. 02:20 < RangerZ> nope.... publishers are being greedy 02:20 < aestetix> That's what I mean. 02:20 < RangerZ> they see 'someone else' making money off their game... so they want to stop it 02:21 < RangerZ> mind you they could NEVER make that money themselves, but they feel like they could, if others weren't making it 02:21 < aestetix> Keep in mind, I consider piracy a subset of attribution. 02:21 < RangerZ> rich has the right point, just means youtubers are going to go to Star Citizen and other 'indie' devs 02:21 < aestetix> I guess I should go watch the video. 02:21 < RangerZ> Star Citizen has a 'you can record our game as much as you want, and even make movies, we don't care, its free publicity' 02:22 < RangerZ> I _FULLY_ expect people to use the star citizen engine/private server they are releasing to make their own movies 02:24 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-70-94.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:30 < aestetix> RangerZ: this makes me want to play Doom 02:31 < RangerZ> lol 02:31 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-68-186.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 02:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 02:32 < RangerZ> but yeah, i think the idea of 'theft of my possible future profits' is starting to grate on people 02:32 < RangerZ> people realizing that its more and more BS 02:33 < RangerZ> at least in areas where they don't sell things, I'm not talking about candy bars, etc 02:33 < aestetix> Kind of like monitoring people who might become future terrorists? ;) 02:40 < RangerZ> honestly, i thank gods... that I'm not a terrorist 02:40 < RangerZ> b/c i'd fucking make people cower in their homes 02:41 < RangerZ> all you have to do is read the CIA and DOD survival and 'insurgency' handbooks, etc 02:41 < RangerZ> they tell you how to be a terrorist 02:42 < RangerZ> I've thought a lot about how vulnerable we are to 'real' guerrilla warfare (and how to counter it) 02:42 < RangerZ> (yes, my mind wanders, lol) 02:42 < RangerZ> if you 'really' wanted to cause terror, you'd attack friday night football games across the country 02:53 < RangerZ> which is why I think the entire idea of us going to 'war' against terrorism is a joke, since obviously they aren't attacking us 02:58 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:20 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 03:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 03:27 < aestetix> RangerZ: http://www.kongregate.com/games/mike_id/doom-1 03:27 < GateKeeper> Title: Play Doom 1, a free online game on Kongregate (at www.kongregate.com) 04:03 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-98-211-46-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:08 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-211-46-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:16 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-211-46-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:19 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:19 -!- Synx|sleepytime [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:22 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 05:24 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-98-211-46-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:04 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: thats a good point about the football games, people would go fucking nuts 08:06 <@wilpig> RangerZ: that's also a cultural thing that someone from another country might not understand 08:07 <@wilpig> 2) that would be primarily what? highschool / college games? that is alot of targets without a big payout like hitting something large 08:13 <@Shadow404> its the psychological effect 08:14 <@Shadow404> notice how much the wtc and pentagon effected us 08:15 <@Shadow404> im sure if a terrorist organization is organized enough, they have sleeper cells like that had for 9/11 that would become culturally aware enough to understand what would be good targets 08:16 <@Shadow404> and i think the reason they havent really attacked us recently is that weve been keeping them on the defensive somewhat 08:17 <@Shadow404> im not saying either side is winning, this is a fight that will last on into eternity as most relgious fueds 08:17 <@Shadow404> and use ware for an example, some people are just dicks 08:27 <@wilpig> I want to strangle a german this morning 08:33 <@Shadow404> what they do? 08:34 <@wilpig> just making suggestions for opendcim several of which i've personally already shot down 08:34 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzwogtiegn571gw/2013-12-11%2008.32.59.jpg 08:34 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-12-11 08.32.59.jpg (at www.dropbox.com) 08:35 <@Shadow404> heh, the makers bottle reminds me of Tom Servo 08:35 <@Shadow404> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Tom_Servo.JPG 08:36 <@wilpig> the number 1 request that annoys the hell out of me is wanting us to use markdown for notes and whatnot 08:36 <@wilpig> he suggests shit without looking at the other implications of doing shit. 08:37 <@wilpig> this one is a PERFECT example 08:37 <@wilpig> use this http://datatables.net/release-datatables/examples/api/editable.html to make the network connections table editable 08:37 < GateKeeper> Title: DataTables example (at datatables.net) 08:37 <@Shadow404> short sighted, i get it 08:37 <@wilpig> okay assfuck... how the hell do we do the lookups with that? huh? huh? you can't that's how. 08:38 <@wilpig> it pisses me off because we had this discussion privately as to why it wasn't going to happen and he instead took it to the public list as a wish list to get other people to agree with him. the issue isn't gonna change it's just gonna piss me off 08:39 <@Shadow404> grr, forgot alot of my german from school, i was gonna suggest calling him a swinefucker, but that doesnt work coming from you, now does it 08:39 <@wilpig> there are some bits in there that would be nice. offload the JS to an included file so it can be cached. yeah that would be sweet except for the shit where there are bits of code generated at page load because they have to be 08:41 <@wilpig> and the one that someone in here keeps suggesting. "why don't you use a templating system/framework" because we dont' want to rewrite the whole fucking thing just to support a framework 08:44 <@wilpig> http://windowshighasfuck.tumblr.com/ 08:44 < GateKeeper> Title: w.h.a.f.exe (at windowshighasfuck.tumblr.com) 08:46 < aestetix> penis 08:46 <@Shadow404> vagina 08:46 < aestetix> wait what? 08:46 <@wilpig> okay. not as pissed now. http://cashcats.biz/post/69645171443 08:47 < aestetix> wilpig: accessing a database with javascript seems like a really bad idea 08:47 < aestetix> unless I'm misreading that 08:48 <@wilpig> aestetix: it's a js front end to give access to stuff via whatever api you have. it's ajax 08:48 < aestetix> ok 08:49 <@wilpig> we're dealing with relational data though so it isn't just as simple as "oh throw this front end on it and it will work just fine" 08:49 < aestetix> wilpig: sounds like you have Dagmar's job now 08:49 <@wilpig> nah. this stuff has been going on and dol is usually pretty good about shutting them down. but the german is being extra mouthy right now 08:50 < aestetix> well just tell everyone "remember what happened last time everyone listened to the germans?" 08:50 <@wilpig> we almost had a utopia? 08:50 * wilpig prepares the ovens 08:50 <@wilpig> get in Shadow404 08:50 < aestetix> Oooh! Are you making brownies? 08:51 < aestetix> oh god 08:51 < aestetix> http://storify.com/CCriadoPerez/what-is-the-most-important-issue-in-feminism 08:51 < GateKeeper> Title: What is the most important issue in feminism? (with tweets) · CCriadoPerez · Storify (at storify.com) 08:52 < aestetix> banknotes? please tell me that's not about "only men are on currency" 08:52 < aestetix> on one hand I point to margaret thatcher on the pound, on the other hand that kind of proves their point ;) 08:53 <@wilpig> i'm 7 tweets in and tldr 08:53 <@wilpig> 128 characters is not a format to be making a long argument 08:54 < aestetix> Which explains why they use twitter 08:54 <@Shadow404> dude, they did almost have a utopia, as long as you fit their perfect image you were fine 08:55 <@Shadow404> god forbid you werent sick, old, or the wrong accepted race 08:55 < aestetix> blond hair and blue eyes, just like hitler 08:55 <@Shadow404> or religious beliefs 08:56 <@Shadow404> aestetix: thats a somewhat biased myth....not all germans had blonde hair and blue eyes, but those that did got special priveleges 08:56 < aestetix> Shadow404: do you think the nazis liked butt play? 08:57 <@Shadow404> have you seen germans now? of course they did 08:57 <@Shadow404> but they kept it a lot more secret back then 08:57 < aestetix> you mean secretive, as a double entendre? 08:59 < aestetix> Hitler and Himmler, ass to ass. 08:59 <@Shadow404> a little column a, and a little column b 08:59 <@Shadow404> (archer) 09:01 <@wilpig> NotLarry: the movie you asked for was just added to plex. it should show up in the next 15 minutes or so 09:01 <@Shadow404> not sure about that...hitler had little use for social interactions, he bascially completely ignored his gf to the point that she was so starved for any attention, she attemtpted suicide on many occasions 09:01 <@Shadow404> hummler, well, he was a social freak, so i could expect him being freaky 09:02 <@Shadow404> *himmler 09:02 <@Shadow404> heh 09:05 < aestetix> "honey, would you give me a hummler?" 09:05 <@wilpig> lol 09:07 <@Shadow404> i think i got one of those last night, but i was a little drunk 09:08 <@Shadow404> and wilpig wouldnt dance for me 09:08 <@Shadow404> he'd rather play civilization and rule his poon 09:09 <@wilpig> http://i.imgur.com/c5FT4E7.png 09:09 < aestetix> ugh never making that mistke again 09:10 < aestetix> intalled windows on the slow hdd by accident 09:12 < aestetix> ooor maybe the system was slow because it only had 500 megs of ram 09:12 <@wilpig> lol 09:13 * aestetix wins tonight's award 09:13 <@Shadow404> aestetix: it would be fine on 95 09:13 < aestetix> yeah windows 7 09:14 <@Shadow404> i did manage this last night: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202861137 09:14 < GateKeeper> Title: Steam Community :: Screenshot (at steamcommunity.com) 09:14 <@Shadow404> damn close to my target too: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202861261 09:14 < GateKeeper> Title: Steam Community :: Screenshot (at steamcommunity.com) 09:15 <@Shadow404> only 1 issue with the rover, some kerbal engineer had to be drunk or just wasnt paying attention and put teh front light on backwards, so if i need illumination, i have to drive in reverse....... 09:16 <@Shadow404> i installed the headlamp while i did some quick modifications for the next launch while it was still on the fairing, so i had to guess which side was the front of the rover as they look identical from both sides otherwise and i apparently guessed wrong 09:33 < aestetix> buttler 09:33 < aestetix> that doesn't work nearly as well as bummler 09:33 <@Shadow404> yeah, no 09:33 <@wilpig> someone is not having a good day today 09:33 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhb7070w8hvi885/2013-12-11%2009.31.45.jpg 09:33 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-12-11 09.31.45.jpg (at www.dropbox.com) 09:48 < aestetix> ok I just created a horrible thing 09:50 <@wilpig> great. you just knocked up cerkit? 10:02 <@rattle> There's a name I haven't heard in a long time.. 10:06 <@wilpig> we fear it. treat it like beetlejuice. 10:06 < aestetix> wilpig: wow, I haven't heard that name in years 10:06 < aestetix> rattle: jinx 10:07 < aestetix> where is cerkit now 10:07 * wilpig puts tape over aestetix's mouth 10:07 <@rattle> I'm sure he's somewhere, infuriating someone. 10:08 <@wilpig> that's a given 10:08 <@wilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf1YF_MH1xc 10:08 < GateKeeper> Title: Beastie Boys - Root Down - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 10:09 <@rattle> Last I heard he was day trading penny stocks while working on his multi-volume novel that he hasn't written the first book of yet while doing rap on the side. 10:09 < aestetix> huh 10:09 <@wilpig> thx rattle. i'm already a little pissed now just at the thought of that 10:10 < aestetix> does he even at least shit out an article every now and then? 10:10 < aestetix> or is he trying to craft it to perfection before writing the first word? 10:12 <@rattle> I don't really want to talk shit on the guy, because I don't actually have any ill will toward him (although I probably should).. His general problem is a mixture of ADHD, extreme arrogance, the inability to finish anything he starts, and an insatiable desire to create conflict between individuals. 10:12 <@rattle> Oh, I guess I did talk shit on him. Oops. 10:12 <@wilpig> you left off that stick that's been lodged up his ass since birth, apparently 10:14 <@rattle> Wherever he is, I hope he's doing ok. He's not a bad person, he's just crazy. 10:14 <@rattle> If you saw where he grew up, some of it would make sense. The fact he's still alive is a bit of a success story in and of itself. 10:22 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 10:31 <@wilpig> wtf? 10:30 -!- Topic for #e-support: New Rule: No more Cat death. Bannable offense. 10:32 <@Shadow404> lawl 10:32 <@Shadow404> has to be an inside joke 10:39 <@wilpig> it's referring to someone that works here but they didn't explain. just that #support was the usual channel for support requests. 10:41 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:53 <@wilpig> NotLarry: they said no to reclaiming notlarry.tumblr.com 10:53 <@wilpig> it's currently limited to trademark infringement and impersonation. you showing up as the first two results for a google image search of notlarry wasn't enough to prove identity 10:54 <@Dickie> You can't like, OWN, NotLarry, man 10:54 <@Shadow404> dress up as bruce wayne and tell them your batman 10:58 <@wilpig> i have access to the tool to change the email address on that account but I figured i should go about it the right way even though odds are nobody would have ever noticed 11:08 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.147.252.216] has joined #se2600 11:39 <@wilpig> damnit. dolemite needs to get on irc 11:39 <@wilpig> I wanna bitch and he isn't around 11:57 <@benthemeek> Just sat through a live stream from spiceworks and CDW on the end of XP... 11:57 <@benthemeek> my time could of been better used elsewhere 12:00 <@Shadow404> wilpig: dance piglet, that will make you feel better 12:15 <@Corydon76-work> benthemeek: are those streams really ever anything but a sales presentation? 12:24 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.147.252.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:45 <@rattle> Once the EOL date hits, maaaaaad XP 0day is going to start dropping. 12:46 <@rattle> It's gonna be fun times. 12:49 <@Corydon76-work> Heh, we're already planning for that date 12:50 <@Corydon76-work> We will still have XP machines, but each one will only be able to see the remote desktop server, not even each other. 12:51 <@rattle> We've got a shocking number of customers whom have applications that run on XP that will not be ported to w7 for at least another two years.. 12:51 <@Corydon76-work> It was cheaper to essentially firewall each XP machine separately in the switches than it was to replace each one with Windows 7. 12:52 <@rattle> ATMs, POS terminals, SCADA stuff, etc.. Lots of fixed function applications. 12:52 <@Corydon76-work> Yep, I'm sure... 12:52 <@Corydon76-work> and we're probably one of the more paranoid in deployments 12:53 <@Corydon76-work> The only way to infect these XP machines in the future will be to plug an infected USB drive into them 12:53 <@Corydon76-work> Not impossible, but unlikely. 12:54 <@rattle> We can protect against that.. 12:54 <@Corydon76-work> We protect against that with user training 12:55 <@rattle> You should protect against it by buying my wares. 12:55 <@Corydon76-work> Strangely, the most ingenious folks in the building are the ones in the warehouse 12:56 <@Corydon76-work> The mantra here is that anything that prevents us from shipping is priority one, so the warehouse guys carry USB keys in order to work around printers failing and anything else that prevents us from shipping product 12:56 <@rattle> We can keep full USB functionality, and just forbid non-approved executables from running off USB. 12:57 <@rattle> We can also limit systems to being able to mount only approved USB sticks. 12:58 <@rattle> Several different combinations of things actually.. 12:59 <@rattle> Like, we can prevent unknown executables from executing off USB, but still permit installers and whatnot you approve. So you can still use USB as a means to distribute software updates and what not. 12:59 <@Corydon76-work> Ah, well, once XP goes dark on updates, that won't be a concern anyway 13:00 <@Corydon76-work> We're mainly concerned about moving documents around 13:00 <@rattle> Well, whatever application you're stick running on XP might still need to be updated. shrug 13:00 <@Corydon76-work> All of our LTL shipments only use XP to the extent that it can run a web browser anyway 13:00 <@Corydon76-work> So it could be easily replaced with Linux 13:00 <@rattle> But yeah, that's a thing we could give you good tools for. Retain the ability to move files around with USB, but be able to forbid any executable content from executing off USB or being moved to the system. 13:01 <@Corydon76-work> That might be nice. 13:03 <@Corydon76-work> Oh, goodie. My test script ran into the noon slowdown. 13:09 < NotLarry> wilpig: So, what your telling me is, according to tumblr, I may well be Larry? I can show them my birth certificate to show I'm notlarry. 13:11 -!- NotLarry is now known as Larry 13:11 -!- Larry is now known as Guest56830 13:13 < Guest56830> well shit 13:21 <@Dickie> We don't get our shit from the city 13:21 <@Dickie> We have well shit 13:21 <@wilpig> probably be easier to prove copyright 13:21 <@wilpig> just go copyright your name 13:24 <@Shadow404> hey Guest56830, long time no see 13:26 <@Mirage> Shouldn't that be "Inmate56830" or "Patient56830"? 13:27 <@Shadow404> Condemed56830 13:31 -!- Guest56830 is now known as NOfelonyconvicti 13:36 < NOfelonyconvicti> NoConvictions 13:36 -!- NOfelonyconvicti is now known as NoConvictions 13:36 -!- NoConvictions is now known as NoSpellcheker 13:36 <@Mirage> Isn't NoSpellcheker the same as "Shadow404" >? 13:37 <@Mirage> We need Nox here 13:38 <@wilpig> I've been trying to get ahold of him but he won't respond to any of my messages 13:38 < nachoguy> stop calling him "Skydick Jr". and he might. 13:38 <@wilpig> I've never called him that. hell I don't mention skydick to him at all 13:39 < NoSpellcheker> If you leave out the part about wanting hot man love... 13:39 <@wilpig> he has a much more personal reason to want to kill skydick 13:39 < nachoguy> wilpig: I'm well aware 13:41 <@Mirage> it's probably best not to mention skydog to him with all the rachel drama 13:41 <@wilpig> ya think? 13:43 <@Catonic> I don't think Nox left happy. 13:44 <@Shadow404> Mirage: yes 13:44 <@Shadow404> wait, personal reason? 13:45 <@Shadow404> do tell 13:49 <@wilpig> put your thinking cap on 13:50 <@wilpig> it's not a hard one to figure out 13:50 <@rattle> WOAH! 13:50 <@rattle> http://www.businessinsider.com/china-puts-former-security-chief-under-house-arrest-2013-12 13:50 < GateKeeper> Title: China Puts Former Security Chief Under House Arrest - Business Insider (at www.businessinsider.com) 13:50 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.147.252.216] has joined #se2600 13:51 -!- dc0de [~dc0de@ip68-107-29-232.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #se2600 13:53 <@rattle> That's huge. That's like if Obama suddenly had Michael Hayden thrown in jail, only more so. 13:54 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-50-152-33-148.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 13:56 < aestetix> ugh. 13:56 < aestetix> went to bed at 8am, got a 10am wake up call 13:56 < NoSpellcheker> ok, I don't understand "revenge porn" websites. If I am the type of person that would look at your ex's porn uploads of you then it is pretty clear to me I wouldn't be the type of person you should be hanging out with. 13:56 < NoSpellcheker> wtf make it illegal? 13:58 <@Corydon76-work> The problem is that some revenge porn is photoshopped and people are getting fired from their jobs (e.g. teachers) due to revenge porn 13:59 <@Shadow404> yeah, that crap is messed up 14:00 < NoSpellcheker> Ok, so, who is looking at revenge porn websites that has the power to fire a teacher? I think we are looking at this wrong... 14:00 <@wilpig> anyone 14:01 <@wilpig> teachers have that weird code of ethics 14:01 <@oddball> The same people that get teachers fired when it gets discovered that they worked their way through college by being strippers. 14:01 <@wilpig> they can get fired for any number of things that appear objectionable 14:02 <@oddball> basically, if parents discover that there are racy (not even nude) pictures of teachers on the internet, they start making a scene because said teacher "isn't a good role model." 14:03 <@wilpig> that's bullshit too. 14:03 <@oddball> Well, yes, but it's true. 14:03 < NoSpellcheker> Ok, stop msging me about it and no, I was not fired, I was escorted from the propery. And it was only ONE highschool... 14:03 <@wilpig> it is true. but that's bullshit. how they portray themselves in teh classroom or where they are in direct contact with the students is all that should matter 14:04 < NoSpellcheker> Where as the kindergarden teacher at my kids school was caught talking on the classroom phone about the size of her new boyfriends genetaila and was moved to teaching 6th grade. 14:04 <@wilpig> NoSpellcheker: was she using the correct terms? 14:05 <@oddball> NoSpellcheker: Now, see... that I can understand being a fired (or at least disaplined) over. 14:06 < NoSpellcheker> My kids first day of school was with her and she sent him home with a 2 page letter stressing 8 different reasons he should never return. 14:06 <@oddball> Unfortunately, we now live in a society where everyone loves posting pictures of the random shit that happens at a bar/party on the internet... which can then be used to judge you years later. 14:06 <@wilpig> NoSpellcheker: how many of them were accurate? 14:06 <@oddball> example: that Miss America winner that got stripped of her award after pictures of her acting like a college girl at a bar during college surfaced. 14:07 < NoSpellcheker> It seems that after 5 years of teaching him how to activly resist strange adults he did not know, I neglected to tell him he was supposed to do what his teacher said. 14:07 <@oddball> heh... oops. 14:07 <@wilpig> hehe so.... all of them? 14:08 <@oddball> Of course, my mom decided to get into teaching largely because of her 1st grade teacher... and how horrible said teacher was. 14:08 <@wilpig> NoSpellcheker: why did you go into teaching? 14:09 * wilpig braces for tear jerking inspirational tale 14:09 < NoSpellcheker> I decided to get into teaching for the free access to, well, you know... 14:09 < NoSpellcheker> Crayons. 14:10 <@Shadow404> sharpies..... 14:10 <@oddball> oo! oo! those scented markers they used to give us and then tell us not to sniff them? 14:11 <@Shadow404> its like they wanted us too do it 14:11 <@Shadow404> however...that would explain ALOT 14:13 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.147.252.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:25 < NoSpellcheker> http://i.imgur.com/UwAy7Ub.png 14:29 <@wilpig> NoSpellcheker: here's you some entertainment for work later tonight. http://plex.wilpig.org:32400/web/index.html#!/servers/17d3b7fc78dc5fc851e60e988d761dc981790949/sections/4/details/16074 14:29 < GateKeeper> Title: Plex/Web (at plex.wilpig.org:32400) 14:34 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.147.252.216] has joined #se2600 14:48 <@Mirage> NoSpellcheker: Sure it wasn't easy access to mimeograph printed documents to sniff? 14:52 <@Shadow404> so why is it that the pron video players are so buggy and the audio and video tracks get off sync alot, compared to something like youtube? 14:53 <@Mirage> spyware? 14:55 <@Shadow404> i dont think so, xhamster, pornwall, etc, all get out of sync all the time 15:04 < NoSpellcheker> How do you know it is out of sync? 15:05 < NoSpellcheker> Mirage: Perhaps, oh the good old days of sniffing mimeograph. It was designed give the student a false sense of ease before taking a test... 15:06 -!- benthemeek [~Thunderbi@zixgateway02.nhccare.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:06 <@Shadow404> when you see the action, and then hear the sound like 15 secs later 15:08 -!- benthemeek [~Thunderbi@zixgateway02.nhccare.com] has joined #se2600 15:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o benthemeek] by ChanServ 15:19 < NoSpellcheker> ok, so, this is where notlarry came from - http://www.mudslide.net/TopTen/lnwd1989.html#August8 15:19 < GateKeeper> Title: LNwDL Top Ten Lists for 1989 (at www.mudslide.net) 15:19 <@Mirage> Shadow404: turn the sound off? 15:19 < NoSpellcheker> Shadow404: There is sound on porn? 15:22 * Shadow404 thinks that NoSpellcheker is still watching the silent moving pictures where lifting one's skirt is a scandalous behavoir 15:22 <@Corydon76-work> I dunno, it's not like I can understand the German, anyway. 15:22 <@Shadow404> hehe, german ftw 15:23 <@Corydon76-work> Yep, German gay porn 15:24 < NoSpellcheker> What makes it gay porn? 15:24 <@wilpig> when the pony shows up 15:24 < NoSpellcheker> *cringe* 15:24 <@Corydon76-work> What's funnier are the eastern European guys for whom it is clear they don't speak a lick of English, who are nevertheless belting out English phrases in the oddest accents 15:24 < NoSpellcheker> twitch.tv/notlarry 15:25 <@Corydon76-work> Either the director doesn't speak English, either, or he doesn't care 15:25 < NoSpellcheker> Dickie: ping 15:25 <@brimstone> Dickie: pingaling! 15:25 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah, Dickie, we're talking about gay porn. Where's your input? 15:26 <@wilpig> He's just gonna show up and start talking about pitching 15:27 <@Dickie> Hi 15:27 <@Mirage> for some reason i just had "I/O error" pop into my head 15:28 <@Dickie> I am supportive of any consentual sexual acts among those responsible enough to make those decision, however that is arbitrarily defined. 15:28 <@Dickie> I am even more supportive of consentual sexual acts involving me. 15:29 * Dickie stares at brimstone 15:29 <@Dickie> I don't have much experience with gay porn. 15:29 <@Corydon76-work> Dickie: what if you're only allowed to watch? 15:30 <@wilpig> Dickie: you aren't responsible though. so wouldn't that exclude you from those acts? 15:30 <@Dickie> I'm supportive of that, but not entirely interested. 15:31 <@Dickie> Gay porn doesn't get the ole' bits a-jigglin, and lesbians are more of a tease 15:31 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah, sure, Dickie. We know about you and Sammy 15:32 <@Mirage> for us straight guys, isn'tit a given that lesbians are a tease, no matter what the scenario 15:32 <@wilpig> mmm lesbians 15:32 <@Dickie> Hey, if I never try, how will I know I don't like it? 15:32 <@Corydon76-work> I dunno, ask Wilbur 15:32 <@wilpig> you won't liek it cause I said you won't 15:32 <@wilpig> it's that easy. 15:33 <@Corydon76-work> I will admit, though, to have participated in sexual acts that I did not enjoy and do not plan to ever take part in again. 15:33 <@Corydon76-work> And I'm glad I was wearing a latex glove at the time. 15:33 <@wilpig> o.O 15:33 <@Dickie> It's okay, wilpig. The sheep gave consent. 15:34 <@wilpig> Baaaaa means no 15:34 <@Corydon76-work> I think it might have been more enjoyable if it actually was a sheep. 15:34 <@wilpig> told you... it's gay when the pony shows up 15:35 <@Dickie> I don't really have any regrettable sexual acts, just regrettable sexual partners 15:35 <@wilpig> Dickie: did you sleep with skydick too? 15:36 <@Dickie> I don't even know anymore 15:37 <@Corydon76-work> I doubt it. You would have heard the screams from across town 15:37 <@Dickie> stand in awe of my girth! 15:38 <@Dickie> speaking of which, brimstone, when's my girthday? 15:38 <@Corydon76-work> Dickie: haven't you learned not to brag about that in the company of people who might want to have a look? 15:38 <@Dickie> No. 15:38 <@Dickie> No I have not. 15:38 * Dickie openly adjusts himself 15:39 <@Dickie> Nah, I do okay. No complaints so far. 15:39 <@Shadow404> what did i start? 15:39 <@Corydon76-work> You're lucky, then. On at least one occasion, I've heard, "Um, I don't think it's gonna fit." 15:40 <@Corydon76-work> He was wrong, though 15:40 <@brimstone> Dickie: 10 days 15:41 <@brimstone> updated topic 15:41 <@Dickie> Thanks 15:41 <@wilpig> girthday? in 10 days? wha? 15:41 <@brimstone> Ticket status => Closed 15:41 * Dickie refuses to accept testing 15:42 <@Dickie> Corydon76-work: Humility, my boy. 15:42 <@Dickie> Do you haz it 15:43 <@Corydon76-work> Humility is just another word for anxiety. 15:43 <@Dickie> I call it security. 15:43 <@Dickie> Tomato potato 15:43 <@Corydon76-work> Unfortunately, I have a shit ton of that. 15:43 <@Dickie> I do, too, but literally none of it involves my penis 15:44 <@Dickie> ...yet 15:44 <@wilpig> iterm2 for osx. is there a key sequence to swap tabs/frames/panels whatever it is you call it when you hit cmd-shift-d to split the terminal window? 15:55 < NoSpellcheker> What! Baaaaa means no? wtf? - http://translate.google.com/#auto/hr/Baaaaa 15:55 < GateKeeper> Title: Google Translate (at translate.google.com) 15:56 <@wilpig> http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/baaaaaa-means-nooooo/ 15:56 <@wilpig> smart ass 15:56 < GateKeeper> Title: T-Shirt Hell :: Shirts :: BAAAAAA MEANS NOOOOO (at www.tshirthell.com) 15:57 < NoSpellcheker> Dickie: I never had any regrettable sexual partners. Disapointed, sure, regrettable, na... 15:57 <@Corydon76-work> Who was more disappointed, you or them? 15:57 < NoSpellcheker> Anyone can make a t-shirt. 15:57 < NoSpellcheker> I've never been dissapointed with a sexual encouter. Surprised, sure, dissapointed, na... 16:00 <@Corydon76-work> On a different subject, the bright side of a vendor update massively breaking an interface means you get to discover every single back corner that was using that API 16:01 <@wilpig> I finally got an answer to the raid 0 question 16:02 <@wilpig> the official answer is during the automated setup it switches all the drives to raid 0 so it can get the drive data correctly. if you query a single array of the disks it doens't give back the serials or whatever on how they were polling the hardware for inventory 16:03 <@Corydon76-work> wilpig: isn't the right thing to do, then, to fix their broken method of querying serial numbers? 16:03 <@wilpig> that's being doen 16:03 <@wilpig> done* 16:07 <@Corydon76-work> Using HAL or something like that? 16:07 <@wilpig> combination of tools from dmidecode to ipmi something or other and then the dell raid util 16:09 <@Shadow404> i blame it for being a dell 16:13 <@wilpig> 16:05 you don't get a cookie 16:13 <@wilpig> 16:06 Current tag is: 16:13 <@wilpig> 16:09 shit on me 16:13 <@wilpig> 16:09 seriously? 16:13 <@wilpig> 16:10 < wilbur> aj I hope you ate a good lunch. this request is gonna sound a little odd 16:14 <@Corydon76-work> That was a kinky request from Gabe 16:15 <@Corydon76-work> Make sure he knows you're not into that... unless New Jersey has already changed you... 16:15 <@wilpig> he's in the NY office 16:15 <@wilpig> as is AJ 16:33 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_D@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 16:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 16:38 < NoSpellcheker> So, that makes it all ok? 16:40 <@wilpig> from my buddy brian 16:40 <@wilpig> Lady at whole foods: The ingredients in this are homeopathic. So they are safe to use anytime. Even if ur pregnant. 16:40 <@wilpig> Me: That's good because my period is late. 16:40 <@wilpig> Lady at whole foods : blank stare 16:43 < NoSpellcheker> Wow, feeding my hdadd with commets from imgur and stumbled across a "going to hell for this one" post in the middle. Not even sure anyone really caught it. Might have to sign in just to upvote. 16:44 <@Shadow404> ive said something like that before and got the same blank stare 17:09 < RangerZ> http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/13/12/11/2135204/sci-fi-author-charles-stross-cancels-trilogy-the-nsa-is-already-doing-it 17:09 < GateKeeper> Title: Sci-fi Author Charles Stross Cancels Trilogy: the NSA Is Already Doing It - Slashdot (at entertainment.slashdot.org) 17:09 < RangerZ> I find that amusing, and sad... at the same time 17:20 <@SuMo_D> wilpig - I take back anything good I said about Mavericks 17:20 <@SuMo_D> did you see my rants last night? I think you were already sleeping 17:20 <@SuMo_D> in other news, adbuster's twitter account got hacked... I kinda think that's a little bit hilarious... 17:20 <@SuMo_D> aestetix I bet it was you 17:29 < aestetix> http://valleywag.gawker.com/happy-holidays-startup-ceo-complains-sf-is-full-of-hum-1481067192 17:35 <@SuMo_D> poor yuppie - his love affair with SF dies a little every day 17:39 <@Corydon76-work> If you don't want to see that kind of stuff, don't start up a company in one of the most densely populated cities in the developed world. 17:40 <@Corydon76-work> Start it up in the middle of nowhere, and you won't have to see any of that stuff. 17:40 <@rattle> OMG 17:41 <@rattle> Singapore Air now has SUITES. 17:41 <@rattle> http://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/flying-with-us/suites/ 17:41 <@Corydon76-work> The homeless were there, first. 17:41 <@Corydon76-work> That's the airline for people with more money than sense enough to buy their own airplane, right? 17:42 <@rattle> nod 17:47 <@wilpig> so my sister's husband doesn't want to be called teh wife even though she's the one with the job making money, etc 17:47 <@wilpig> I'm gonna send him an apron and a feather duster for christmas along with the papers to file for changing his last name to hers 17:48 < aestetix> ok ok so it turns out there is something worse than an endless september 17:49 <@Mirage> t-shirt hell used to have a shirt that said "I bring nothing to the table"..that may be a good additon if they still make it. 17:49 < aestetix> and that is when multiple septembers happen in unison and feed off each other 17:49 <@wilpig> hrmm. Mirage: checking now 17:50 <@wilpig> http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/i-bring-nothing-to-the-table/?xid=1f3a5fbb-8746-2c24-212b-339fafe481a5 17:50 < GateKeeper> Title: T-Shirt Hell :: Shirts :: I BRING NOTHING TO THE TABLE (at www.tshirthell.com) 17:50 <@Mirage> There ya go! 17:51 < aestetix> I just watched some newb on the noisebridge listserve use the burning man 10 principles in an argument with someone 17:51 < aestetix> I don't even 17:51 < aestetix> It's like the guy who came to the burning man tech meeting, and when he heard people who have known larry harvey for decades bitching about harvey, piped up and say "well surely there must be a positive approach" 17:52 < aestetix> something something my lawn 17:52 <@Mirage> There's a zombie on my lawn? 17:53 < aestetix> yes 17:53 < aestetix> a zombie named desire 17:53 <@wilpig> is it a children? 17:53 <@Mirage> I thought Desire was a streetcar 17:54 <@wilpig> my cousin is desiree 17:55 < RangerZ> she must have gotten all the family looks then? 17:55 <@wilpig> her and her sisters 17:55 < aestetix> wilpig: I thought your cousin's name was charlotte 18:01 -!- rattleX [~rattleXx@74.10.169.50] has joined #se2600 18:02 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:06 <@wilpig> anyone know if it is possible to mitm silverlight content? 18:08 <@SuMo_D> These are nifty http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/you-vision-video-glasses/ 18:08 < GateKeeper> Title: The Photojojo Store! (at photojojo.com) 18:09 <@SuMo_D> HD vision in my vision... yeeeeeeeeah 18:09 <@SuMo_D> this on the other hand is pretty asinine... who needs a professional lens... for an iPhone... http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/iphone-slr-mount/ 18:09 < GateKeeper> Title: The Photojojo Store! (at photojojo.com) 18:21 < RangerZ> so did anyone in here get a steambox beta? 18:28 <@wilpig> no. but I was trying ot get one 18:29 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 18:47 -!- x86Daddy [~x86Daddy@32.147.252.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:05 -!- Th3Fr1ng3 [~androirc@2600:1004:b108:7d08:48d4:7dbf:f49b:6946] has joined #se2600 19:06 < Th3Fr1ng3> Evening yall 19:10 <@wilpig> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 19:13 < RangerZ> so... wilpig is going to get snowed in at tumblr 19:14 -!- upthedose [~upthedose@75-131-121-67.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 19:14 < Th3Fr1ng3> I hate the snow. It's to cold if it's snowing. 19:14 <@wilpig> dude monday morning was pretty brutal 19:15 <@wilpig> or tuesday. yeah tuesday 19:16 < Th3Fr1ng3> Everyone go start your cars and burn whatever trash that puts off the most pollution! 19:16 < Th3Fr1ng3> Supposed to be 18 in the morning and feel like single digits 19:17 < Th3Fr1ng3> Guess it's better than the -135.8 temp hit in antarctica 19:20 -!- benthemeek [~Thunderbi@zixgateway02.nhccare.com] has quit [Quit: benthemeek] 19:42 < NoSpellcheker> Weird, here it says it will be 48 tomorrow and feel like 55 19:44 < Th3Fr1ng3> That is weird 19:58 < Synx|hm> Fucking steroid injection in my shoulder is killing me right now 19:58 < Synx|hm> its getting worse by the hour 20:26 <@Dagmar> Jesus. Zenimax really means to release ESO on April 4th 20:27 <@SuMo_D> it was in the mid 50s here today I didn't even have to wear a jacket when I was out for a bit 20:27 <@SuMo_D> I think its my recompense for spending so many winters in Boston and walking to classes when it was -13 20:31 < aestetix> ugh 20:31 < aestetix> So I finally got everything to build and mostly run 20:31 < aestetix> But I forgot to document how I created the development environment 20:41 <@SuMo_D> well... that sucks 20:41 <@SuMo_D> but at least its done? 20:57 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt1ubSVMwaw does this play in chrome for anyone? 20:57 < GateKeeper> Title: YouTuber Controversy with TotalBiscuit, FarFromSubtle, itmeJP, Fork Parker and Adam Sessler! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 20:58 < RangerZ> i'm noticing something odd, that youtube videos are messing up in chrome 20:58 < RangerZ> but work in FF and ...IE... for gods sake 21:01 <@SuMo_D> aestetix I got another rabbit hole for you #solidarityisforwhitewomen 21:01 <@SuMo_D> since your build is almost mostly done 21:03 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: personally I'm waiting for Wilpig to find the #WilpigXnotLarryFanFiction tag we started a while back 21:03 -!- Warcop [~zadeaux@96-32-205-123.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com] has joined #se2600 21:03 <@SuMo_D> yeah... that might burn the rest of what I have a brain into a crisp 21:04 * wilpig pours SuMo_D another drink 21:05 <@wilpig> TOMORROW!! 21:05 <@wilpig> There will be a dinner buffet and open bar. Dress is “cocktail attire” so put on something cute. :) 21:05 <@wilpig> After party plans are just to continue taking over the Jane bar at 10pm when the space opens to the public. 21:05 <@SuMo_D> I'd have a drink there... made by professionals ;) 21:05 <@wilpig> I plan on having several 21:05 <@SuMo_D> sounds like fun 21:06 <@wilpig> I've already warned the people I usually drunk dial to be on the lookout 21:06 <@SuMo_D> being drunk on public transportation is like a rite of passage in NYC.... 21:06 <@SuMo_D> lol nice 21:06 <@wilpig> one told me not to send pictures of my... 21:06 <@wilpig> it doesn't happen everytime. but she had a point 21:07 <@SuMo_D> lol 21:08 <@SuMo_D> so this is going viral https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOjNcZvwjxI and kinda liked it... before I realized it was an advertisement for a hair company.... 21:08 < GateKeeper> Title: Pantene #WhipIt | Labels Against Women | @Pantene @PantenePH - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 21:09 <@SuMo_D> what does shampoo have to do with gender politics... I mean really.... its just pretty much pandering to emotions in a weird psychological play so that people (mostly women who are their target customers) will buy their shampoo over another... 21:09 <@SuMo_D> why isn't that obvious to people? 21:09 <@wilpig> sounds like a good plan 21:10 <@SuMo_D> yeah... I guess you could say it is some brilliant marketing in a way... 21:10 <@Catonic> you doing hope? 21:10 < Warcop> So you're saying you need to justify why you are buying womens brand shampoo and deodorant? 21:11 < Warcop> Secret rox 21:11 * SuMo_D wonders if Warcop realizes that she is a woman 21:12 < Warcop> of course not. i'm ignorant 21:12 <@SuMo_D> consider yourself enlightened 21:12 < Warcop> it happens. i only lurk and troll here 21:12 <@SuMo_D> for sure 21:13 <@SuMo_D> you have to be out policing the wars 21:13 < Warcop> :D 21:15 <@SuMo_D> so what's good 21:15 <@Catonic> nah, never... you buy it because it smells nice and gets you compliments elsewhere... 21:15 <@Catonic> but never go generic, because then you'll wind up smelling like Old Lady. 21:16 <@SuMo_D> yeah, but there's other things that smell better and are cheaper than pantene and they support animal testing 21:20 <@SuMo_D> Also... this http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/12/10/the-solution-to-patriarchy-pantene-says-shine/ 21:20 <@SuMo_D> which is what one of my friends just posted when I put it up and asked for thoughts.... 21:20 <@SuMo_D> seriously... letting my hair shine is going to change the wooooooorld - right... 21:20 <@SuMo_D> Wrong... Robots will change the world! 21:23 < RangerZ> wilpig: you had to go into NYC at all lately? 21:24 <@wilpig> going tomorrow 21:24 < RangerZ> apparently washington bridge has had some lane closures at the on ramp that most people use 21:24 < RangerZ> b/c Chris Christie's high school friend told them to do it 21:24 <@wilpig> wouldn't affect me. I take the train. heh 21:24 < RangerZ> (who was in charge of port authority, or was... until he had to resign this week) 21:24 < RangerZ> b/c the mayor of that town didn't back christie 21:25 < RangerZ> glad to see NJ is keeping up its .... NJ'ness 21:26 <@SuMo_D> Jersey isn't all bad... they just keep up the image to keep people out 21:26 < RangerZ> and god... making a portfolio to get my masters is a lot of BS 'little work' 21:26 <@SuMo_D> keep them flocking to the sludge that is NYC proper 21:34 < aestetix> So much clicking and dragging. 21:35 < aestetix> oh wow 21:35 < aestetix> the Google Bus drama made CNN 21:35 < RangerZ> http://nashville.craigslist.org/ele/4239922732.html 21:35 < GateKeeper> Title: Xbox One for sale! (at nashville.craigslist.org) 21:35 < RangerZ> haha , i hope that story is true 21:36 < RangerZ> selling xbox one for 375$ 21:36 < NoSpellcheker> SuMo_D: That is the second time today animal testing has come up in channel... 21:36 < RangerZ> to pay for son's court costs, hehe 21:36 < RangerZ> google bus? 21:36 <@SuMo_D> NoSpellchecker really? I missed the first one... 21:37 < NoSpellcheker> <@wilpig> Baaaaa means no 21:38 < RangerZ> wilpig: Mooo Means no, also 21:44 <@Dickie> hello 21:44 < RangerZ> Dickie: hello 21:45 < RangerZ> so anyone know ANYONE who has gone to "full sail 'university' " 21:48 < aestetix> I have a new personal goal complete all 500 levels of candy crush without paying them a dime 21:49 < RangerZ> aestetix: i'm right there with you, lol 21:49 < RangerZ> not going to put a penny into that game 21:49 < aestetix> RangerZ: have you played it? 21:49 < aestetix> I learned abotu it at thanksgiving. I'm addicted now. 21:49 < RangerZ> yeah, i'm at like lvl 150 or something 21:50 < aestetix> jesus 21:50 < RangerZ> well 100+ i know that 21:50 < aestetix> I'm at like.... level 40 21:50 < aestetix> does it get harder? 21:50 < RangerZ> it starts to become silly 21:50 < RangerZ> its all luck 21:50 < aestetix> oh level 50 21:50 < aestetix> I got really annoyed when they started making me wait 3 days between levels 21:50 < RangerZ> it becomes pretty much impossible, to win, without paying... OR just getting lucky 21:51 < aestetix> at around 150? 21:52 <@Dickie> I've done pretty well 21:52 <@Dickie> But I got bored of it 21:52 <@SuMo_D> yeah I'm level 66 now... and have to wait another 2 days to go on 21:53 <@SuMo_D> it does get kinda boring though, but its mesmerizing 21:54 <@SuMo_D> hey does anybody have a good supplier for coin cell batteries ? 21:55 <@SuMo_D> dx has some good ones but still shopping around 21:58 < RangerZ> honestly I think it was 80 or something 21:58 < RangerZ> then after that like 20 easy ones 21:58 < RangerZ> seems like they put 'bottlenecks' 21:59 < RangerZ> to make people play 21:59 < RangerZ> pay* 21:59 < RangerZ> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/11/1652257/google-fiber-in-austin-hits-a-snag-incumbent-att 21:59 < RangerZ> ahh... poor AT&T 21:59 < RangerZ> having to share its 'privately owned' public utility poles with Google 22:04 <@SuMo_D> ohhhhhh these are neat! http://www.cheap-batteries.com/p/CR2032-P5-1.html 22:04 < GateKeeper> Title: Cheap-Batteries.Com Sanyo CR2032 3 Volt Lithium Coin Battery W/ 2 Pin PC 15mm Pin Spread # CR2032-P5-1 (at www.cheap-batteries.com) 22:04 <@SuMo_D> they have pins already on them - no need for holders... that's so nifty 22:05 < aestetix> SuMo_D: how long have you been playing? 22:05 < aestetix> I must live under a rock 22:05 <@SuMo_D> errr... like a week? 22:05 <@SuMo_D> I was playing tetris blitz 22:06 <@SuMo_D> trying to resist it... but yeah.... got bored and had to switch it up 22:07 <@SuMo_D> aestetix - South Park is taking on feminists tonight - I just can't get away from it! 22:08 <@SuMo_D> well kinda... in South park's way 22:12 < aestetix> oh fuck yes 22:12 <@SuMo_D> and they are taking on photoshop too...lol 22:12 <@SuMo_D> awesome 22:17 <@SuMo_D> and BAM http://www.amazon.com/Brooklyn-Battery-Lithium-Button-Batteries/dp/B00BPYZMHQ/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1386818218&sr=8-9&keywords=coin+cell+battery 22:17 <@Dickie> omg people actually buy all these bus/train/tractor simulators 22:18 <@Dickie> Forklift simulator 2014 22:18 <@SuMo_D> lol 22:18 <@SuMo_D> maybe for training purposes ? 22:18 <@Dickie> Electric Pallet Jack Simulator 3 22:18 <@Dickie> pffffft 22:23 <@SuMo_D> well... yeah... who knows 22:23 <@SuMo_D> there's a fetish for everything 23:12 <@SuMo_D> aestetix - California's got the most - Every business on the coast ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFvtoJrK1Zg 23:12 < GateKeeper> Title: Frank Zappa - Flakes - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 23:25 < aestetix> ok that video is automatically awesome because of Franke Zappa 23:25 < aestetix> er, Frank 23:32 -!- Th3Fr1ng3 [~androirc@2600:1004:b108:7d08:48d4:7dbf:f49b:6946] has quit [Quit: adios amigos!] 23:34 <@SuMo_D> <3 Frank 23:34 <@SuMo_D> he's da man 23:51 -!- dc0de_ [uid20490@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwpzzxidrjjdiceo] has joined #se2600 23:52 -!- dc0de_ [uid20490@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwpzzxidrjjdiceo] has left #se2600 [] --- Log closed Thu Dec 12 00:00:53 2013