--- Log opened Fri Dec 06 00:00:46 2013
00:00 < RangerZ> i'm a social libertarian, federalist
00:01 < RangerZ> meaning I don't believe in states being allowed to have subpar laws, etc, but I think that social aspects should be left alone
00:01 < RangerZ> kinda complex POV, but ehh
00:01 < RangerZ> but I do agree with local management in a lot of areas
00:02 < RangerZ> like I wish the ACA had forced each state to run their own healthcare exchange
00:02 < RangerZ> not given them the option
00:02 < RangerZ> b/c 50 different state ones would show which states do it better, and others could follow
00:02 < RangerZ> so Fed. govt sets min. reqs. for all the states, then each state is able to extend them
00:03 < RangerZ> if that makes sense
00:03 < RangerZ> plus we ban handguns
00:03 < RangerZ> just to piss off and troll oddball
00:03 < RangerZ> ;)
00:05 <@oddball> grrrrr
00:05 <@oddball> cold dead hands
00:06 < RangerZ> promises promises
00:06 < RangerZ> lol
00:07 <@oddball> And I don't believe that there's anything stopping the states from expanding things now.
00:09 < RangerZ> yes/no
00:10 < RangerZ> there is
00:10 < RangerZ> depending on what the 'area' is
00:10 < RangerZ> like banking rules
00:10 < RangerZ> states can't regulate banks
00:10 < RangerZ> b/c thats fed. law only
00:10 < RangerZ> same with michigan's state consitition saying that pensions can't be disregarded in bankruptcy
00:11 < RangerZ> basically I think we need to chage the 10th and 14th ammendments, to make them work better
00:11 < RangerZ> but neocons/tea partiers would gut it, so no one else wants to even touch the topic
00:27 <@oddball> I doubt anyone at the federal level would like to re-enforce the 10th
00:30 <@oddball> I would also say that the folks on the left would not like that re-enforced/actually paid attention to.  There's a lot of federal laws that have liberal ideals that have snuck by using a lot of hand waving and screaming "interstate comerce!:
00:30 <@oddball> "
00:37 < RangerZ> who said anything about 're-enforce' ?
00:38 < RangerZ> i said change
00:38 < RangerZ> 10th is what holds back our country in a lot of ways
00:38 < RangerZ> b/c we can't afford to be 50 nation states anymore
00:38 < RangerZ> world economy doesn't allow it
00:38 < RangerZ> etc
00:46 < aestetix> FUCKING FAUXMINISTS!
00:46 < aestetix> they just won't go away
00:53 <@oddball> RangerZ: Ah, sorry, misunderstood what you meant by "change the 10th to make it work better."
01:12 <@Catonic> lol
01:18 < RangerZ> its weird
01:18 < RangerZ> NOT having some homework or somthing to do
01:19 < RangerZ> https://github.com/mawalker/torrentCDN
01:19 < GateKeeper> Title: mawalker/torrentCDN · GitHub (at github.com)
01:19 < RangerZ> also, my bit torrent based CDN seems to work pretty good
01:19 < RangerZ> i think the problem is the torrent files being created, so if someone has experience with that, this would be a nice way to share files with others
01:26 < aestetix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bY43Xr3KuvE
01:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Crazy Japanese TV Show Gay vs Straight Blow Job Challenge - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:29 <@Catonic> LOL
01:29 <@SuMo_D> http://www.slowempty.com/
01:29 <@Catonic> RangerZ: no one wants to touch anything legally any more because the neocons and liberals are too dangerous
01:30 < RangerZ> Catonic: pretty much
01:30 < RangerZ> thats why the ACA hasn't had any adjustments that everyone agrees are needed
01:31 <@Catonic> I got involved in a gun rights group, and I burned out of it
01:31 <@Catonic> It was like Charlie Rose's War...
01:32 <@Catonic> Next thing you know, I, a respected researcher, was told by someone "politically connected" that I didn't know what I was talking about.
01:32 <@Catonic> Then they started arguing over implied consent.
01:34 <@Catonic> Then the NRA stepped in and colluded with the sheriff's association (which is a lobbying organization that is paid for by taxpayers to represent the sheriffs of the state) and the resulting bill was one of the largest challenges to actual rights this century.
01:34 <@SuMo_D> aestetix what are the crazy women up to up to now or do I not want to know
01:34 <@Catonic> Why? Because the NRA's message is that everyone should have a license, and guns are to be concealed, not seen.
01:35 < aestetix> wow that was amazing
01:35 <@Catonic> Oh, and if you have a permit, you should be able to carry anywhere _allowed_ by law
01:37 <@Catonic> In other words, "mother may I?"
01:38 <@Catonic> Come to find out, 90% of the sheriffs of the state are Democrats.
01:38 <@Catonic> And the bill passed the legislature and governor in a republican administration.
01:38 <@Catonic> The only place where it wound up in committee over was because of a belief that it would interfere with the rights of business owners.
01:39 <@Catonic> No warning from Gus... "Hey, the crazies are on the way in...."
01:40 <@Catonic> So finally the second gun rights group got booted up, and they are taking a two-pronged approach...
01:40 < RangerZ> i pissed off a lady at gamestop , b/c she got pissy about how she doesn't go to ... <insert some random store here> because they don't allow you to bring your gun into the store
01:40 <@Catonic> Fight them in court, and fight then in the legislature.
01:40 < RangerZ> and i was like... well WTF... the store owner doesn't have the right to decide WHO has a gun on their property
01:40 <@Catonic> I can only speak for the way it works in my state.
01:41 < RangerZ> lets just say, logic is the enemy of rabid beasts
01:41 <@Catonic> But if you open your property to the unqualified public... the public has a right to be armed in a place where the public can occupy.
01:42 <@Catonic> The assumption is that there are people there who follow rules. The criminal never ceeded the right to bear arms; he invokes his own rights to sovereignity, and takes what he wants.
01:43 < RangerZ> thankfully AFAIK any business _CAN_ still deny entry to anyone with a gun, anywhere in the US
01:43 <@Catonic> It works well for me because I'm literate, I'm logical, and I have been able to get a clue from my reasonable friends...
01:43 <@Catonic> Dude, you totally missed what I just said.
01:44 <@Catonic> People don't follow rules.
01:44 <@Catonic> I would think you would understand that in this particular place.
01:45 <@Catonic> Ma Bell charged money for phone calls. Someone found a bug in Ma Bell's implementation. Phone phreaking was born.
01:45 <@Catonic> We have RFCs. People still don't honor them.
01:46 <@Catonic> We have IEEE 802. People still fucked up implementing 10/100 autonegotiation until gigabit was in draft.
01:46 <@Catonic> ADSL Annex A and Annex B are EIA standards... and they still fucked it up where one manufacturer couldn't talk to the other.
01:48 < RangerZ> i completely ignored what you s aid, not missed it
01:48 < RangerZ> complete difference
01:48 < RangerZ> ;) lol
01:48 < RangerZ> i get what you trying to say, and thats all fine and dandy
01:49 < RangerZ> but 'legal' and 'smart' are two different things
01:49 < RangerZ> if a business wants to not allow guns, it should be their right
01:49 < RangerZ> thats all my point is
01:50 < RangerZ> you can disagree on if its smart, or better yet, not shop there if thats your choice "free market" and all that nonsense
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02:55 <@Catonic> smart is people taking responsibility for thier own safety and security. It's why we have fire extenguishers and require fire escapes.
02:56 <@Catonic> but sure, 99% of the time, it's not necessary... but in that 1% of time, it can be very necessary.
02:56 <@Catonic> but I live in a rough world.
03:06 < RangerZ> actually i'd agree with you
03:07 < RangerZ> if i hadn't read the studies, and what not , about how unless you train hours a week, you will be more likely to harm yourself than do any good
03:07 < RangerZ> and honestly, think about the "average" amercian
03:07 < RangerZ> now think about 150million people stupider than them having a gun
03:07 < RangerZ> i'd rather they be illegal than THAT
03:07 < RangerZ> lol
03:21 < aestetix> vagina
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04:33 < aestetix> How many Occupy Wall Street protesters does it take to change a light bulb?
04:33 < aestetix> ... None, because they'll never change anything.
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08:31 <@Shadow404> aestetix: lawl
08:53 <@Shadow404> i found it sad that windows messed up so bad, that most computer manufactueres are selling their computers with windows 7 installed, but it comes with the serial and option to upgrade to windows 8....
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09:05 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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09:57 < Synx|hm> morning
10:00 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: It's probably time to change your Lync buddy icon.  It's still showing up.
10:01 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Preferably something involving no NSFW-# classifications at all.
10:01 <@Dagmar> A road-runner dust cloud would probably be pretty good
10:04 <@Dagmar> Fucking windows....
10:05 <@Dagmar> I leave the damn laptop doing C: up with Bitlocker on Wednesday... is it finished now?  NO.  It decided to fucking hibernate at 14%.
10:05 <@Dagmar> Mother.  Fuckers.
10:08 <@Shadow404> is there a way to check if someone made a flight if you are their emergency contact or is it still not provided?
10:08 <@Dagmar> You can try calling the NSA
10:09 <@Dagmar> They probably know
10:10 <@Shadow404> probably
10:42 <@wilpig> Dagmar: that's because i'm still on lync
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10:44 <@Dagmar> wilpig: yes but didn't you set your buddy icon to point to a URL that you control?
10:46 <@wilpig> yes it's pointed to my webserver here
10:46 <@wilpig> to a picture of a taco
10:46 <@Dagmar> Okay.  Looked like some kind of Pokemon screen to me
10:47 <@wilpig> it's the taco you got from plants vs zombies
10:47 <@Dagmar> Yeah okay.  My experience with that is basically limited to WoW's version
10:50 <@wilpig> I should get up and get moving
10:50 <@wilpig> got shit to accomplish today. find a barber is #1
10:51 <@Dolemite> Just shave your head
10:51 <@Dagmar> !topic 615 meeting still on.  Don't be a pussy.
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10:54 <@Dagmar> The only thing bad I can say about www.glidergloves.com is that being soft, they'll be perfectly useless if I have to punch someone in the face for being stupid.
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11:11 <@benthemeek> Never thought about this vector before... Rights to sudo vi on a box. sudo vi, then run !/bin/bash  ..... $$$$
11:34 <@benthemeek> This may have been discussed but I am too lazy to re read everything since yesterday. Show of hands who is showing up tonight at JJ's?
11:35 <@benthemeek> I dont want to drive all the way to nashville if people wont be there
11:36 <@benthemeek> its not supposed to be below freezing until 11pm but if that worry is stopping anyone lets call it and save the time and gas :P
11:37 <@oddball> I'll be there
11:37 < RangerZ> i'll say i'll be there
11:37 < RangerZ> just to sit across the street and watch you get pissed at being the only one there
11:37 <@benthemeek> LOL
11:37 <@benthemeek> fari enough
11:38 <@oddball> Dagmar: There are a lot of gloves out there now that are touch screen friendly.
11:38 < RangerZ> but, I'll be there, since I _only_ have work today, no homework/project due at midnight, etc
11:38 <@oddball> yay!
11:41 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: on a side note, most gloves will work with touchscreen aside from bulky ones
11:42 <@oddball> Ummm... no?
11:45 <@oddball> Shadow404: The ones that I have that don't specifically have special finger tips sewn in don't work on a capacitive screen.  They work on resistive screens like my GPS unit, but that's to be expected.
11:49 <@Dolemite> Shadow404: I think your touchscreen is resistive, because I was able to play fruit ninja on it with my penis wrapped in a PhreakNIC condom as the stylus.
11:49 <@Dolemite> Shadow404: Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention.  You might want to wash your phone screen.
11:55 <@Dagmar> I'm rather glad it's still just above freezing out there.
11:55 <@Dagmar> If this were snow, we'd be getting a ton of it right now
11:58 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: glad i got rid of the phone i last atteneed phreaknic at
12:03 <@wilpig> http://i.imgur.com/y1nG4qG.png  wtf?
12:04 <@Dolemite> 200 dead customers?
12:07 <@wilpig> if it wasn't a giant pain in the ass i'd almost be tempted to reflect this all team meeting one time so y'all could see
12:08 <@rattle> One of the greatest flash mobs ever:  http://www.cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/eric-scheiner/air-force-musical-flash-mob-soars-smithsonian
12:08 < GateKeeper> Title: Air Force Musical Flash Mob Soars in Smithsonian | CNS News (at www.cnsnews.com)
12:14 <@Shadow404> thats awesome
12:20 < RangerZ> that would have been awesome to see
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13:06 < aestetix> why is it that every time the kitty is all nice and soft and fuzzy and purring
13:06 < aestetix> she is also covered with litter box crumbs
13:07 < Synx|hm> i hate parking garages
13:08 < Synx|hm> have a roofbox on my car and i dont think its going to fit at the hotel im staying at on friday
13:08 < Synx|hm> they charge an extra 10 ($35 total) to park it for me elsewhere
13:08 < Synx|hm> ugh
13:21 <@wilpig> this is some good news
13:22 <@wilpig> starting in 2014 I get free admission to moma for myself and a guest
13:22 <@wilpig> if I have more than one guest they can get in for $5 intead of the usual 25 or 30
13:26 <@wilpig> time to venture out
13:51 <@Shadow404> woot, ill be up in nyc around january for a meeting, lets go
13:51 <@Shadow404> we can bring a bottle of wine and make it all romantic
14:06 <@wilpig> http://www.trimmasterbarbershop.com/TRIM_MASTER/Gallery/Gallery.html
14:06 < GateKeeper> Title: Gallery (at www.trimmasterbarbershop.com)
14:06 <@wilpig> okay this is a horrible website with a wtf on the pictures
14:06 < Synx|hm> well shit
14:06 < Synx|hm> im in a customer webex trying to access about 15 servers and i didn't know i had capslock on
14:06 < Synx|hm> i locked out the service domain account so i cant get to shit now
14:07 <@wilpig> doh!
14:07 < Synx|hm> oh well cant do any work, and i dont have the credentials to be able to call the helpdesk and get the password reset
14:07 < Synx|hm> so... early weekend for me w00t
14:07 < Synx|hm> i should do this more often
14:10 <@wilpig> I should get off my ass and go get my haircut now.
14:12 <@wilpig> also need to goto lowes and see about getting a grow light and moving my plant into the bathroom away from the assholes
14:12 <@Shadow404> meh, i acually had to shave, been like 10 days cause i had the house to myself
14:12 <@Shadow404> wilpig: pot?
14:12 <@wilpig> no just a houseplant
14:12 <@wilpig> the fuckers have eaten all the leaves off it
14:14 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vobgb5cqjqczbpk/2013-12-06%2014.13.36.jpg
14:14 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-12-06 14.13.36.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
14:14 <@wilpig> the foil was keeping them off it.  but as you can see from the dirt around it they just tore through it and dug all the dirt out
14:14 <@wilpig> then ate all the leaves
14:15 <@wilpig> the christmas cactus got too much water or something it's just not happy.
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15:11 < aestetix> man
15:11 < aestetix> massages make everything better
15:12 <@Shadow404> happy ending?
15:13 < aestetix> they are always happy ending
15:14 < aestetix> although now that I think of it
15:14 < aestetix> I wonder how many people relax and let out a skunky fart when getting a massage
15:17 < RangerZ> aestetix: a fair amount
15:17 < RangerZ> had an ex who was a masseuse
15:17 < RangerZ> which was... interesting... ;)
15:18 < RangerZ> her stories alone were hilarious
15:19 <@Shadow404> i know i have
15:19 <@Shadow404> masseuse, well i know im doing a good job then
15:20 < RangerZ> aslong as you don't pitch a tent
15:20 < RangerZ> apparently thats fairly common, lol
15:21 <@Shadow404> heh
15:21  * Shadow404 whistles
15:21 < RangerZ> actually, the best was giving the ex a massage on her portable table
15:22 < RangerZ> she was kinda pissed that I gave a good massage without training
15:22 < RangerZ> lol
15:23 <@Shadow404> some people are born with it
15:23 < RangerZ> then starting a female's happy ending on her, when she wasn't expecting it, was amusing
15:24 < RangerZ> she was like... I thought you were just going to give me a massage
15:24 < RangerZ> i was like... are you stupid... you mostly naked with me with oils... and you're relaxed... tsk tsk tsk
15:32 < aestetix> which is common?
15:32 < aestetix> skunky farts, or boneres?
15:41 <@Shadow404> woot woot, my womens home
15:41 <@Shadow404> probably both
15:42 < aestetix> Shadow404: do you ever fart in front of her?
15:42 <@Shadow404> not on purpose
15:42 <@Shadow404> but yeah, im a man
15:42 < aestetix> how does she respond when you do?
15:42 <@Shadow404> girl farts are just funny
15:43 <@Shadow404> rolls her eyes
15:43 < aestetix> girls don't fart
15:43 <@Shadow404> yeah they do
15:44 <@Corydon76-work> He means after he's cleaned them out with his tongue
15:44 <@Shadow404> na, usually enema, but whatever floats your own boat Corydon76-work
15:45 <@Shadow404> if you need that tounge-on approach
15:46 <@wilpig> http://www.eaststarsomerville.com/location.aspx
15:46 < GateKeeper> Title: East Star Buffet - Somerville - NJ - 08876 - Location (at www.eaststarsomerville.com)
15:46 <@wilpig> Order online....  No Delivery!
15:48 <@Shadow404> wilpig: nice segway, thx
15:48 < RangerZ> too bad it wasn't a sausage house or something
15:49 < RangerZ> that would have made it even better
16:07 < nachoguy> http://i.imgur.com/eo999FM.jpg
16:09 < nachoguy> Also, sfw goatse hair: http://i.imgur.com/8snewVH.jpg
16:15 <@Catonic> poo
16:16 <@Catonic> oh yeah... so ... ah... if you alter your diet, you can pretty much end flatulence.
16:17 <@Dickie> false
16:18 <@Dickie> I've been farting non-stop since 1987
16:24 <@brimstone> i started eating better and farting more :(
16:24 <@Corydon76-work> Dickie:  eat more rice, less wheat
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16:38 < aestetix> http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Guardian
16:38 < GateKeeper> Title: British Security and National Security Agency Surveillance - C-SPAN Video Library (at www.c-spanvideo.org)
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18:10 < NotLarry> oh fuck, meeting tonight?  I do not want to go out in the cold...
18:10 < RangerZ> cold?
18:10 < RangerZ> its only in the 40s
18:10 < RangerZ> it'll get down to the 20s by tonight
18:11 < RangerZ> see, its still 34 degrees out
18:11 < RangerZ> it'll get down to 28 tonight
18:11 < RangerZ> still whole degrees
18:11 < RangerZ> 6*
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18:28 < aestetix> penis
18:30 < NotLarry> Well, having already been broken down on the side of the road once today, in the sleet...
18:53 < NotLarry> anyone at the meeting on on?
18:54 < NotLarry> and on, doh
18:58 < aestetix> Hmm
18:58 < aestetix> I'm slowly debating getting a credit card.
19:03 < NotLarry> go for it.  I want to hear how you got Capitalone to accept aestetix as your real name:)
19:03 < NotLarry> I double dare you!
19:05 < aestetix> hahaha
19:05 < aestetix> ok how the hell do I check a credit score without giving anyone money?
19:05 < aestetix> I just tried two sites, both of them wanted a CC number
19:05 < aestetix> to which I say "fuck you"
19:08 < NotLarry> karma didn't ask me for a cc
19:09 < NotLarry> creditkarma.com
19:09 < NotLarry> There may have been a dna sample, I don't recall, I was drinking when I signed up with them:)
19:09 < aestetix> Ok. I had just tried experion and such
19:10 < NotLarry> You get a free credit report once a year, this you know.
19:11 < NotLarry> https://www.annualcreditreport.com/index.action ?
19:11 < GateKeeper> Title: Annual Credit Report.com - Home Page (at www.annualcreditreport.com)
19:11 < NotLarry> but I don't think that site gets you a credit score, just your credit reports
19:12 < NotLarry> God, that video you linked...
19:13 < aestetix> which video?
19:15 < NotLarry> do you not look at the links you post?
19:17 < aestetix> Do you mean the Guardian video?
19:17 < aestetix> Or the one about the japanese blowjob contest?
19:19 < NotLarry> Wait, watching the second video now...
19:19 < NotLarry> holy fuck, you could have marked that one nsfw
19:20 < NotLarry> where in "japanese blowjob contest" was there any indication that that would not be safe for work?
19:22 < aestetix> actually
19:22 < aestetix> I don't think that video actually *was* nsfw
19:23 < aestetix> Of course, if the concept alone is nsfw, I mean... it did have the word "blowjob" in it.
19:25 < NotLarry> oh, fm, I missread that.  I thought it said "air head"
19:25 < NotLarry> you may be right about this whole name thing...
19:26 < aestetix> name thing?
19:28 < aestetix> btw did you like the blowjob video?
19:36 < NotLarry> can't find the blowjob video
19:37 < NotLarry> allthough the c-span video is pretty satisfying
19:37 < NotLarry> wtf is wrong with these people?
19:42 < aestetix> oh sweet
19:42 < aestetix> I finally got the sound clip from being on NPR
19:48 < aestetix> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2eq2b7nao5s7eqk/aestetix-dac-kqed.mp3
19:48 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - aestetix-dac-kqed.mp3 (at www.dropbox.com)
19:56 < aestetix> now to use it to troll IDESG
20:03 < aestetix> oh man this is funny
20:34 < aestetix> there we go
20:34 < aestetix> http://mail.idecosystem.org/pipermail/taxonomy_idecosystem.org/2013-December/000446.html
20:34 < GateKeeper> Title: [Taxonomy] Definition of pseudonym (at mail.idecosystem.org)
20:37 < aestetix> Dagmar: read that
20:47 < NotLarry> aestetix: When I first moved to Alabama to Tuscaloosa I saw a official accept a University of Alabama student ID as a valid photo ID for getting a local drivers license.  However, to get a valid student ID required going into Clark Hall and tell them your name.  They would look you up on the "computer" take your photo, print you a new ID, and charge it to your bursar account.
20:48 < NotLarry> And I could swear your student ID number was your ssn
21:16 < aestetix> why does windows need to reboot to update IE
21:16 < aestetix> are computers really that hard?
22:44 <@Dagmar> It's because IE is a part of the operating system, of course
22:44 <@Dagmar> ...or it could be another stealth patch to the kernel.
23:00 < NotLarry> wtf?  I install windows two days ago, with a valid activation key, it accepts the key and activates windows, this morning I wake up and windows needs me to call microsoft for a new activation key.
23:07  * oddball has arrived home
23:07 <@oddball> Ok... I can officially say that cancelling the board/card gaming event tomorrow due to weather was stupid.
23:11 < NotLarry> So, the sun has come out?
23:15 <@oddball> not yet... no
23:15 <@oddball> But the roads are pretty dry.
23:25 < aestetix> how does anyone do dev in windows
23:27 < RangerZ1> << has in past
23:28 < aestetix> I'm trying to set something up to build in windows
23:28 < aestetix> I'm used to doing it in ubuntu
23:28 < RangerZ1> 'build' ?
23:28 < RangerZ1> c++ ?
23:28 < aestetix> yes
23:28 < RangerZ1> i'm sorry
23:28 < aestetix> that bad?
23:29 < RangerZ1> i've always thought so
23:29 < RangerZ1> windows has .... cygwin.... or Visual Studio
23:29 <@oddball> ...do you have a C++ compiler for Windows?
23:30 < aestetix> mingw is what I'm working with
23:30 < aestetix> which has gcc
23:30 < RangerZ1> i'd just use linux then
23:30 <@wilpig> hahaa
23:30 <@wilpig> larry byrd is using tumblr on the neighbors tonight
23:31 < RangerZ1> c++ needs gradle to build in support for it
23:31 < aestetix> RangerZ1: I'm porting code to windows for someone
23:31 < RangerZ1> b/c 'make' is still the biggest problem
23:31 < RangerZ1> 'porting' to
23:31 <@wilpig> http://supremelikeme.tumblr.com/
23:31 < aestetix> right now I"m trying to get scons working
23:31 < GateKeeper> Title: SUPREME LIKE ME Page 1 (at supremelikeme.tumblr.com)
23:31 < aestetix> and let me tell you
23:31 < RangerZ1> as a 'target' or as a 'built target'
23:32 < aestetix> basically I just want to make a dll
23:32 < aestetix> after that I'm peachy
23:32 < RangerZ1> i'd personally look to just cross compile 'to' windows
23:32 < RangerZ1> and not compile 'on' it
23:32 < aestetix> hmm
23:32 < RangerZ1> but I _fully_ admit, I don't how _how_ to do that
23:33 < RangerZ1> just that, that would be my target
23:36 < RangerZ1> http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/~paulm/Cross/ looks like its possible
23:36 < GateKeeper> Title: Cross compiling Windows applications under GNU/Linux (at www.astro.gla.ac.uk)
23:36 < RangerZ1> but not 'easy'
23:36 < aestetix> which would be why they delegated this to me
23:37 < aestetix> (they didn't want to do it)
23:37 < RangerZ1> pretty much
23:37 < RangerZ1> everything in regards to windows or c++ is a PITA to me
23:38 < RangerZ1> unless you are using visual studio, and then it becomes a lot easier, but then your code can become platform specific too easily
23:48 < RangerZ1> i _really_ don't like c++'s lack of build system, now that I'm getting familiar with maven , and other tools, it is becoming ever more obvious how bad make is
23:51 < RangerZ1> we actively talk about this in the lab
23:57 < RangerZ1> i need to re-watch the talk the gradle maintainer gave, to make sure he said he was adding c++
23:57 < RangerZ1> b/c dependency mang. in c++ would be a godsend
23:58 < aestetix> ugh
23:58 < aestetix> just spent the last 30 minutes trying to figure out why scons couldn't find python
23:58 < aestetix> "no python found"
23:58 < aestetix> It was because I had python 2.7 installed and it was looking for python 2.6
23:58 < aestetix> worst error message ever
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