--- Log opened Mon Dec 02 00:00:41 2013
01:03 <@SuMo_D> woot - 1TB portable drive for 50$ - :D
01:03 <@SuMo_D> Tigerdirect FTW
02:04 < aestetix_> man
02:04 < aestetix_> it seems like the startup world consists of two types of people: douchebags and victims
02:05  * wilpig raises his hand
02:05 < aestetix_> what
02:05 <@wilpig> can I be a douchebag?
02:05 < aestetix_> well
02:06 < aestetix_> your question makes a demand of me, therefore is oppressive
02:06 <@wilpig> gimme your wallet?
02:07 <@wilpig> so I have to be up for work in four and a half hours. brain just isn't shutting down for the night
02:18 <@SuMo_D> dochebags, victims and funders....
02:19 < RangerZ1> aestetix_: startups are just gambling now
02:19 < RangerZ1> its the new 'thing'
02:19 < RangerZ1> since they are less regulated than other stuff now
02:19 < RangerZ1> of course they have always existed
02:27 < aestetix_> So I was thinking
02:27 < aestetix_> The real issue I am seeing with fauxminists
02:27 < aestetix_> It boils down to a question.... humans are hypocritical... that's our nature
02:27 < aestetix_> If you have a choice between having community and being correct, which would you take?
02:28 < aestetix_> It seems like they are willing to destroy community to prove themselves correct.
02:31 <@SuMo_D> that's a lot of people... not just them... but yeah that does seem to be what it boils down to
02:32 <@SuMo_D> you can't have a community of one... and everyobdy is going to have some shit they disagree with unless they are indoctrinated somehow...
02:34 < aestetix_> Well yes
02:34 < aestetix_> I'm just seeing it with the fauxminists because I'm stuck dealing with it
02:34 <@SuMo_D> true
02:35 < aestetix_> But I also see it... both with fundamentalist christians, as well as atheists.
02:35 <@SuMo_D> anybody with really strong beliefs basicly...
02:35 < aestetix_> Either complaining about a single reference to god somewhere, or complaining that god is being left out :)
02:35 <@SuMo_D> it comes up in academia a lot
02:35 < aestetix_> oh?
02:35 <@SuMo_D> oh yeah
02:36 < aestetix_> Politics too, I imagine.
02:36 <@SuMo_D> for sure
02:38 <@SuMo_D> the thing is the fauxminists or whoever... in their asshatary make their own form of anti-community
02:38 <@SuMo_D> you hate what I hate! lets be friends!
02:38 < aestetix_> yep
02:39 <@SuMo_D> I hung out with some of our local punks tonight, and yeah... I told them straight out... yeah you guys are awesome the Boston punks weren't really friendly and kidna scary
02:40 <@SuMo_D> very like... YOU MUST BE VEGAN OR YOU WILL DIE kinda scene
02:40 < aestetix_> yep
02:40 <@SuMo_D> here... its a lot more chill and everyone helps each other...
02:40 <@SuMo_D> they were the first to say yeah... they're a lot rougher up tehre
02:41 <@SuMo_D> but they still all identify with each other... I donno... I guess it comes down to what makes a community and what makes an extremist within a community?
02:41 < aestetix_> Well it's like what Dagmar said about KGB
02:42 < aestetix_> Policing each other to the point where you can't express an opinion unless it's approved by the group
02:42 < aestetix_> That's the kind of hivemind that's going on in the bay area right now
02:42 <@SuMo_D> that's the way its been there since I was in middle school dude...
02:42 <@SuMo_D> I think that's why I hated it there so much
02:42 <@SuMo_D> so so so much....
02:43 < aestetix_> It has?
02:43 < aestetix_> Mmm.
02:43 <@SuMo_D> well... maybe its the gentrification
02:43 <@SuMo_D> the people from the far ends of the BART moving intwards
02:43 <@SuMo_D> inwards
02:44 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... I used to live out in Moraga that shit was horrible... hive mind at its finest... maybe that's just middle school in general too... but fuck... it was like they'd never seen anything or anybody except like what they were... and the'd all know each other from sperm
02:44 < aestetix_> yep!
02:44 <@SuMo_D> and then I come in... moving in from Saudia Arabia and trying to be like Lets play D&D guys!
02:44 <@SuMo_D> yeah... that did not go well
02:45 <@SuMo_D> dmolnar had a better time of it... but yeah not much
02:45 < aestetix_> didn't he at least like noisebridge?
02:45 <@SuMo_D> this is back in like...'95 dude
02:45 < aestetix_> ahhh ok
02:45 <@SuMo_D> no Noisebridge in sight yet
02:46 <@SuMo_D> yeah dmolnar likes the bay area
02:46 <@SuMo_D> a lot
02:46 <@SuMo_D> me... not so much... I did like it the last time I was there when I was with him and Tracy
02:48 <@SuMo_D> we had a lot of fun at DNA lounge and that place that was a car garage and some other shit... + my friend from China just happened to live 2 blocks over from Tracy which was a weird coincidence since we met in France... but yeah - still had bad vibes for me
02:48 <@SuMo_D> Is DNA still there?
02:48 < aestetix_> yep
02:49 <@SuMo_D> cool weren't they trying to shut it down?
02:49 < aestetix_> yeah
02:49 < aestetix_> the whole war on fun thing
02:49 <@SuMo_D> :(
02:49 < aestetix_> http://www.booknotes.org/Watch/12086-1/Robert+Caro.aspx btw interesting stuff
02:49 < GateKeeper> Title: Booknotes :: Watch (at www.booknotes.org)
02:50 <@SuMo_D> cool
02:52 <@SuMo_D> yeah, I think I might like the Bay area more if I was with the right people
02:52 <@SuMo_D> I see some cool shit going on there from time to time
02:52 <@SuMo_D> but I still can't deal with the fog and the cold... and yeah... the hive
02:53 <@SuMo_D> I mean there was a lot of that in Vegas too... but there was more of a space to just be yourself if you weren't in it... I didn't feel any of that in the bay
03:01 < RangerZ1> bay area is great, as long as you are at berkeely
03:01 < RangerZ1> Berkeley*
03:02 < RangerZ1> otherwise... you gotta avoid Oakland, and all that
03:02 < RangerZ1> lol
03:02 <@SuMo_D> meh...
03:03 < RangerZ1> oakland was nice to visit
03:03 < RangerZ1> craptastic baseball stadium, but ehh
03:03 < RangerZ1> lol
03:05 < aestetix_> ugh
03:06 < aestetix_> I avoid berkeley as much as possible
03:16 <@SuMo_D> lol I was thinking that
03:16 <@SuMo_D> I was like... that's the hotbed for everything aestetix_ is bitching about
03:16 <@SuMo_D> it seeps from there and mutates
03:17 <@SuMo_D> and copulates from the far BART areas and makes angry crazy people everywhere
03:21 < aestetix_> http://imgur.com/Ibxniqg
03:21 < GateKeeper> Title: I found this in a box of my Great Grandpas things (slightly NSFW?) - Imgur (at imgur.com)
03:21 < aestetix_> does that count as child porn?
03:23 <@SuMo_D> I don't think so... but it does count as horrible?
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04:06 <@Bahhumbug> DNA Lounge?  Isn't that Jamie Zawinski's place?
04:13 <@Dagmar> saYes/
04:13 <@Dagmar> er yes
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07:34 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:38 <@Shadow404> is it sad that i had a weird dream that included se2600 last night
07:38 <@Shadow404> ?
07:38 <@Shadow404> mostly had something to do with seeing a bunch of cybermonday ads right before i fell asleep
07:39 <@Bahhumbug> You're a freak.
07:39 <@Bahhumbug> Just sayin'
07:43 <@Shadow404> it wasnt anything kinky
07:43 <@Shadow404> it was like a bunch of us, outside of a computer store in the blizzard in line waiting for the store to open so we could get some amazing deal
07:44 <@Shadow404> and then someone pulls out a laptop and realizes we could of purcahsed the deal online
07:45 <@Shadow404> half of us leave, and then he mentions to the half that stayed that it was in-store only and he just said that to ensure we/he got one of the limited quanity
07:48 <@Dolemite> So basically you just described every line at Best Buy
07:53 <@Shadow404> possibly, i just have no clue what store i was trying to imagine
07:53 <@Shadow404> it was a microcenter as i was looking at before i fell asleep
07:53 <@Shadow404> so similar
08:08 <@wilpig> This is going to be a long day
08:08 <@wilpig> I got maybe 3 hours of sleep
08:10 <@wilpig> heh  http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/
08:11 < GateKeeper> Title: Ctrl+Alt+Del - Vocations (2013-12-02) (at www.cad-comic.com)
08:11 <@wilpig> guess I need to pop into the datacenter and replace a dimm really quick.
08:19 <@Shadow404> replacing houseplant?
08:19 <@Shadow404> (dimm)
08:25 <@wilpig> actual dimm.  8g reporting ecc errors
08:25 <@Shadow404> i was being sarcastic, i know you mean ram
08:27 <@wilpig> it's gonna be a literal only kind of day
08:30 <@wilpig> jim breuer is promoting a new christmas song which in itself is pretty shitty but the underlying music bed is actually good.
08:37 <@wilpig> Dolemite: any thoughts on lost girl today?
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08:44 <@wilpig> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343103/
08:44 < GateKeeper> Title: Raptor Ranch (2013) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
08:48 <@Dolemite> wilpig: I find it to be quite entertaining.  There's enough humor added in to keep it from getting anywhere near Twilight-zone.
08:48 <@Dolemite> I especially liked the scene with the banshee being force fed to get the name out of her.
08:52 <@Dolemite> I did a 9 episode binge yesterday
09:18 <@wilpig> okay so i've pretty much finished the newest zelda game
09:18 <@wilpig> a little too easy.
09:19 <@wilpig> I've even maxed out the rupie counter at 9999
09:21 <@Dolemite> wilpig: Also, the scene where Bo and Lauren finally got it on was worthwhile
09:21 <@wilpig> damn straight
09:21 <@Dolemite> No, I'm pretty sure that wasn't straight
09:21 <@wilpig> dr lauren and the new chick in the fourth season too. 
09:22 <@Dolemite> It reminds me a lot of Buffy the Vampire Slayer
09:34 <@Corydon76-work> Heh.  Bad Religion put out a Christmas album
09:36 <@Corydon76-work> When you know their history, the songs sound especially creepy
09:41 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: what games do you play on steam?
09:44 <@Dolemite> Civ V and XCOM
09:45 <@Dolemite> occasionally my young'un plays Portal 2
09:55 <@Shadow404> ah, ok
09:56 <@Shadow404> i like the older civ, the new one is just to overly complicated
09:56 <@Shadow404> sorta like when they tried to expand on red alert
09:56 <@wilpig> personally I love the new religion stuff
09:57 <@wilpig> mainly cause I like to spread the tenants of poon
09:57 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I bought Civ V when it was on sale, but not with the complete expansion pack
09:58 <@Dolemite> Now they keep running the Civ V gold version for the same price that I paid for the original, but I just can't bring myself to buy it again
09:58 <@Dolemite> But after playing XCOM this weekend, I've got other distractions
09:59 <@Shadow404> yeah, they do that alot
09:59 <@Shadow404> especially running sales a week after you buy the game full price
09:59 <@Shadow404> grr
09:59 <@Dolemite> wilpig: How the hell do you do the missions where the Chryssalis aliens keep making zombies, which then turn into more Chryssalis aliens after you kill them?
09:59 <@Shadow404> aim for the head?
09:59 <@Dolemite> I didn't buy mine full price, but still, it's the principle
10:00 <@Shadow404> yep
10:00 <@wilpig> snipers help.  if you have the laser weapons that helps
10:00 <@wilpig> grenades.
10:00 <@wilpig> you can't save every citizen
10:00 <@wilpig> I usually do alot of overwatching
10:01 <@Dolemite> No.  I guess you just have to get them before they get a critical mass of zombies.
10:01 <@wilpig> once your snipers get team view it helps alot too
10:01 <@Dolemite> I lost a whole squad of Sergeants and Captains because I didn't think to save before trying that mission
10:01 <@wilpig> the hacker inside bottle opener has become office equipment.  lol
10:02 <@wilpig> oh.  whenever you start a mission hit F10
10:02 <@Dolemite> Quick Save?
10:02 <@wilpig> like the very first thing before you do your first action.  then you can just reload to that point if something goes south
10:02 <@Dolemite> Good to know
10:02 <@wilpig> and the quicksave is different from the regular game save
10:02 <@wilpig> but it will overite the last quicksave
10:03 <@Dolemite> Oh, and apparently starting with your base in Europe means you don't get enough missions to pay money to launch more satellites...
10:03 <@wilpig> overwrite
10:03 <@wilpig> I usually start inthe US
10:03 <@Dolemite> I did the first time, but decided to try starting in Europe the next time
10:03 <@wilpig> that last play through I managed to keep every country on board to the end.  that was kinda neat
10:03 <@Dolemite> I may start a new game in the US now that I have a lot of the tactics figured out
10:04 <@Dolemite> wow, that's definitely an accomplishmetn
10:04 <@wilpig> you have to order satelites early and start building a new satelite control facility early too.  they take 30 days to get arrive
10:04 <@Dolemite> yeah
10:05 <@Dolemite> I was trying to expand in too many areas too fast
10:05 <@wilpig> the satelites are a priority since that gets you more missions and they cut down on the panic for the country you deploy them on
10:06 <@wilpig> on the early terror missions and stuff I often will go for the one that gives money rather than scientists or engineers.
10:06 <@wilpig> sell off all your excess corpses when you need to complete a project quickly except for 10 of each
10:09 <@Dagmar>  /window balance
10:09 <@Dolemite> You can sell off the corpses before someone requests them?
10:09 <@Dolemite> Apparently I haven't paid enough attention to the options
10:10 <@wilpig> yeah goto the situation room and then there is a "grey market"
10:10 <@wilpig> you can sell off the corpses, alloys, etc
10:10 <@Dolemite> Aha.
10:10 <@wilpig> you don't get much for them but it can be enough to get a satelite ordered or a rifle built, etc
10:10 <@Dolemite> Well that may solve my money problem in Europe.  I'm sitting on dozens of Sectoid and Thin Man corpses.
10:10 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah  This conversation looks tewtelly legit.
10:11 <@wilpig> lol
10:11 <@Dagmar> wilpig: there's a new Doctor Who bejeweled-like on the Play Store
10:12 <@wilpig> I saw where you mentioned that yesterday
10:12 <@wilpig> that bad huh?
10:12 <@Dagmar> k
10:12 <@Dagmar> It's not bad actually.
10:12 <@wilpig> I might check itout after I finish up zelda later today
10:12 <@Dagmar> After they added the other colors into the playfield I stopped brutally trouncing it
10:13 <@Dagmar> The upper window has like super-condensed Reader's Digets ADHD special editions of the TV episodes going on in comic form
10:13 <@wilpig> heh
10:21 <@Dagmar> Soooo glad the goddamn Bluetooth keyboard is finally working properly with VX Connectbot
10:21 <@Dagmar> I can actually type ^W,p again
10:23 <@Dagmar> LOL I'm using Kevin McDonald's old laptop
10:24 <@wilpig> this thing giving me rupies is just pissing me off now.
10:24 <@Dagmar> So that new Zelda is okay, then?
10:24 <@wilpig> yeah I've liked it except for it seems a little on the easy side and maybe a tad short
10:25 <@wilpig> I haven't finished it yet so maybe i'm not seeing some of it but I think this might be it.  I've rescued the 7 sages, recovered this octosquid looking things 100 babies, upgraded everything, maxed out all my rupies, etc
10:25 <@wilpig> all that's left I think is the final boss battle.
10:26 <@wilpig> being able to upgrade the boomerang and stuff this time was kinda neat.  
10:27 <@wilpig> albeit the method to do it was boring as fuck and I would have gotten it done so much faster had I realized I just had to go 2d and pop those little shits off the walls to begin with
10:27 <@Dagmar> *somehow* Kmac's laptop didn't do the Windows activation step
10:28 <@wilpig> okay this part is annoying.  the hand from the original legend of zelda is back
10:28 <@wilpig> it's only appeared in two dungeons so far but both times it's pissed me off
10:33 <@Dagmar> Well, at least it's not rushing out and murdering everyone
10:34 <@Mirage> Dagmar: over at 3401 now?
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11:07 <@Dagmar> Mirage: yep.
11:07 <@Dagmar> I've no idea why KMac's laptop didn't have Windows activation done on it
11:13 <@benthemeek> I too bought xcom over the weekend
11:13 <@wilpig> enterprise windows 7?  uses the key server?
11:13 <@benthemeek> Didnt hear about a new zelda though
11:13 <@wilpig> benthemeek: did you get any of the dlc?
11:14 <@benthemeek> I did not
11:14 <@wilpig> the new zelda is on the ds
11:14 <@benthemeek> is it not worth it?
11:14 <@wilpig> Link between worlds
11:14 <@benthemeek> with out DLC i mean?
11:14 <@wilpig> the new one is most definitely worth it
11:16 <@wilpig> gods and kings is the latest expansion for civ 5 right?
11:16 <@wilpig> or is it brave new world?
11:20 <@Dolemite> I think BNW
11:20 <@wilpig> it's finally on sale.  stupid steam will tell you if you own a game but not any particular dlc
11:26 <@Dolemite> Sweet!  $5 for the Gold Edition upgrade.
11:26 <@Dolemite> Now that I'll do.
11:27 <@wilpig> it will let you do that?
11:27 <@wilpig> nice
11:27 <@Dolemite> But first, it's time for pudding.
11:27 <@wilpig> you mean time for lost girl s04e04
11:27 <@Dolemite> Nah, I'm on s01e10
11:28 <@Dolemite> And it's not exacty SFW
11:28 <@wilpig> i'm in a room with aj.  I don't think he'll object
11:30 <@Dolemite> Yep.  Just paid $5 for the entire DLC bundle for Civ V.
11:31 <@wilpig> everything but brave new world?  cool
11:31 <@wilpig> now you too can celebrate poon
11:32 <@Shadow404> lawl
11:32 <@Dolemite> No, poon was your religion, Wilbur
11:33 <@Dolemite> Mine will be Orthodox Midgetalian
11:34 <@wilpig> poon is superior
11:34 <@Dolemite> We shall see
11:40 <@Dolemite> Gah.  Just spoke to the wife.  Apparently the beer I made on Saturday had a blowout last night.  Kreuzen all over the floor of the basement.
11:41 <@Dolemite> So I've noticed something rather odd.  When I spike wort with dark brown sugar and spices, rather than running the SG up, I end up getting a lower reading.  It's as if the spices in the worth throw the instrument way off.
11:42 <@Dolemite> s/worth/wort
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12:09 <@Corydon76-work> Dolemite: or that the spice particulates collect on the instrument and pull it lower?
12:19 <@wilpig> Dolemite: that support request is all for you.  i'm going to go pickup lunch now
12:20 <@wilpig> I have a feeling this is another "I don't need to let the installer upgrade for me"
12:23 <@Dolemite> I had an issue in whichever version of upgrade removed duplicate entries of device classes...    but that wasn't 2.1
12:31 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: possible the spices are sponging up some of the alcohol enough to throw the readings off
12:32 <@Mirage> anyone ever run into a linux host booting up with the login prompt of "(none) login:"
12:32 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-work: Do you brew?  Because your answer shows some knowledge of the instrument used, while Shadow404's comment shows that he doesn't know a damn thing about a Hydrometer.
12:33 <@Corydon76-work> I do not brew, but I'm familiar with the collectibles my father has obtained that revenuers used during Prohibition to test SG.
12:34 <@Dolemite> Makes sense
12:34 <@Mirage> Dolemite: I wouldn't think there would be enough spices in there to effect the specific gravity in such a way as to throw it off that much
12:34 <@Dolemite> So for your knowledge, Shadow404
12:34 <@Dolemite> Wort does not have any alcohol in it
12:34 <@Dolemite> Hydrometers don't measure alcohol, they measure the amount of dissolved solids
12:35 <@Dolemite> I think the amount of undissolved solids is so high that it's throwing the ratio off
12:35 <@Corydon76-work> If the spice particulates are the issue in throwing off the instrument, then possibly a finer grind to the spices may assist them in dissolving or at least staying in suspension.
12:35 <@Dolemite> So even though there's a shitload of sugar for the yeasties to convert to alcohol, the other particulates in the wort are making it seem like a very low ratio
12:38 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: hehe, i dont tend to use a hydrometer much in my brewing.....
12:38 <@Dolemite> Aha.  I need to make a calibration reading.  Someone on homebrewtalk forums suggested that they've never seen one to read 1.000 in plain water.
12:38 <@Dolemite> But still, I think an overabundance of particulates is throwing it off.
12:39 <@Shadow404> more like at all, im not very scientific wit it, i mix the ingredients, adding or taking away ingredients ratios with diffrent batches until i get the taste/strength i want
12:39 <@Mirage> Dolemite: is yours a refractory type or specific gravity type?
12:40 <@Dolemite> SG
12:41 <@Shadow404> i need to make another batch of white wine, i just finished the last bottle of my 5 gallon batch, and it takes a good 3 months before its ready to even drink
12:42 <@Corydon76-work> Dolemite: on the plain water not reading 1.000, I suspect the issue is that it's hard water with a certain amount of minerals within.  Only distilled water is likely to measure precisely 1.000.
12:42 <@Shadow404> wine is a bitch to make though
12:42 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: yep, i tend to start with distilled from the store
12:42 <@Dolemite> You should never brew with distilled water
12:43 <@Dolemite> Spring water is what you should use
12:43 <@Shadow404> diffrent tastes
12:43 <@Corydon76-work> Only reason to start with distilled is if your local water source contains minerals incompatible with the brew
12:43 <@oddball> Shadow404: Not really.  The bitch is "ok, wait 6 months to see if you screwed up or not."
12:43 <@Shadow404> i noticed quite a difference
12:43 <@Dolemite> I have a water softener at my house, so I have some mineral content, but not calcium
12:43 <@Shadow404> oddball: fermentation of wine is so much more complicated then most beer
12:43 <@Corydon76-work> Water softener typically means you've replace the hard minerals with sodium salts
12:44 <@oddball> Shadow404: What's complicated about "add ingredients to sterile container, stick in the back of your pantry for a few months?"
12:44 <@Corydon76-work> As long as nobody consuming your final product has high blood pressure, that shouldn't be a problem, though.
12:44 <@Shadow404> oddball: ah, thats the method you use
12:45 <@Shadow404> i tried that, once, and had a blow out
12:45 <@Corydon76-work> oddball: I usually don't even bother with sterilization for the few times I've made hooch.
12:45 <@Shadow404> but the method i use...let me see if i can find the link
12:46 <@Dolemite> If you are only doing extract brewing, distilled is ok, but still not recommended.  If you do all grain, you either have to add salts or use some form of mineral water to get the lautering process going.
12:46 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: this is true and i agree with that statement completely
12:46 <@oddball> Shadow404: Ah, so you failed to do anything about the gas build up.  All you need is a a ballon with a couple pin pricks in it and a rubber band.
12:47 <@Shadow404> id say 80% of my batches are indeed extract, and most of the time spring is recommeneded for all grain
12:47 <@Shadow404> oddball: or an airlock, but i had it get gunked up
12:47 <@Shadow404> the method i use, involves camden tablets and pectic enzyme
12:47 <@oddball> Corydon76-work: Sterile is best, but you can get away with merely "clean" (people have for thousands of years).
12:48 <@Shadow404> and i let the bottle sit with a sterile cloth over the neck for a few days for it to breath and release gas, then airlock it
12:48 <@oddball> ah... so equipment malfunction.
12:48 <@Shadow404> but to get the clarity i shoot for, it takes some filteing every few weeks
12:48 <@Shadow404> siphoning to new bottles
12:48 <@Corydon76-work> I'm not sure how a 17-yo is expected to do sterile conditions in a plastic bottle in his dorm room anyway
12:48 <@Shadow404> add more enzyme
12:48 <@Shadow404> continue
12:49 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: easy, baby bottle sterlization tablets
12:49 <@Shadow404> bame
12:49 <@oddball> Of course, I usually just make apple pie using PGA... which I can enjoy the night it's made. :)
12:49 <@Corydon76-work> Ah, never bothered with that
12:49 <@Shadow404> works so well
12:49 <@Shadow404> no residue
12:49 <@Shadow404> all my batches have never had any bacteria issues
12:49 <@oddball> That reminds me... I need to take another crack at making mead.
12:50 <@Corydon76-work> My usual recipe was a cup of sugar, quarter packet of strawberry kool-aid, packet of yeast, fill with tap water.
12:50 <@Shadow404> they dont seel baby bottle tablets, but you can buy camping water tablets nowadays, but havent tested those
12:50 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: what kind of yeast? bread?
12:50 <@Corydon76-work> Yep
12:50 <@Shadow404> oh god
12:50 <@Shadow404> puke
12:50 <@Shadow404> but yeah, good cheap hooch
12:51 <@Corydon76-work> Then cap it and release the pressure once a day by unscrewing the cap, but not removing it
12:51 <@oddball> Not the best, but it works.
12:51 <@Shadow404> agreed, when your in college
12:51 <@Shadow404> good cheap, alcohol
12:51 <@Corydon76-work> This was in high school
12:51 <@Shadow404> or that
12:51 <@Shadow404> did you hide it from the parents?
12:51 <@Corydon76-work> I went to boarding school
12:51 <@Corydon76-work> I hid it from the dorm parent, yes
12:51 <@Shadow404> nice
12:52 <@Shadow404> though that does explain a few things....
12:52  * Shadow404 ducks
12:52 <@Corydon76-work> Then again, I was the goodie-goodie that none of them would have ever bothered searching in the first place.
12:53 <@Shadow404> yeah, that helps, social engineering
12:53 <@Corydon76-work> When the whole dorm got punished for a can of dip in a common area, I got excluded from the punishment
12:54 <@Shadow404> my dad openly got me involved in homebrewing when i was in middle school, and had me learn the science behind how it worked.....but we were never precise in measurements, sorta made it fun to have a degree of change in batches
12:54 <@Corydon76-work> They probably could have stored all their tobacco in my room, and nobody would have ever found it
12:54 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: i bet it was your can too
12:54 <@Corydon76-work> Pffft.  It's a disgusting habit that I would never try.  That was when I first tried pot, though
12:55 <@Corydon76-work> Dip is the disgusting habit, not smoking in general
12:55 <@oddball> Yeah... and it's making a comeback since smoking is now taboo in so many areas.
12:56 <@Corydon76-work> though if you smoke enough that your mouth tastes like an ashtray, you have a problem
12:56 <@Shadow404> agreed, dip is yuck
12:56 <@oddball> true
12:56 <@Shadow404> now pot, on occasion, not habit is ok
12:56 <@oddball> But at least you're not spitting that nasty crap either on the side walk or in a bottle you carry with you.
12:56 <@Shadow404> at least to me
12:58 <@Corydon76-work> I have less of a problem with pot, at least in theory.  That we have insane law enforcement going after people with the slightest trace of it is what makes it nonpalatable to me
12:58 <@Shadow404> yeah, i like the places where its a slap on the wrist fine, not felony, for each infraction
12:58 <@Shadow404> unless you get caught witha  brick or something
12:59 <@Shadow404> but i rather make it legal and tax the hell out of it
12:59 <@Shadow404> its safer than alcohol, biologically speaking
13:12 <@Dolemite> Drug laws are all out of whack, and mostly put that way to support the commercial prison system
13:14 <@Shadow404> strictly biologically speaking, you overdose on pot, well you can, but you have to have so much pure extract, its almost unobtainable
13:14 <@Shadow404> *can't overdose
13:15 <@Shadow404> alchohol, go down to a corner store, grab a litre or two of liquor and cause serious harm, even death if you drink enough quickly
14:00 <@Dolemite> wilpig: Sadly, there's no such thing as a SFW episode of Lost Girl, because the opening credits of every one puts you right into the NSFW category.  Fortunately I have earbuds and a door, though.
14:03 <@Shadow404> and a desk with a solid front portion?
14:03 <@Dolemite> built in kleenex holder
14:04 <@Shadow404> heh
14:06 <@SuMo_D> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQo9DUqQtEg
14:06 < GateKeeper> Title: Mega Man - Cutsman Music Video - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:20 <@benthemeek> This has a web affect I have never seen before as you scroll down. Its pretty cool http://www.polygon.com/features/2013/12/2/5143856/no-girls-allowed
15:20 < GateKeeper> Title: No girls allowed | Polygon (at www.polygon.com)
15:22 < frsilent> parallax scrolling?
15:22 <@Dolemite>  I've seen that on some other sites recently
15:22 < frsilent> yeah it's gotten pretty popular
15:23 <@benthemeek> Just a new one on me.
15:23 < frsilent> http://www.awwwards.com/20-best-websites-with-parallax-scrolling-of-2013.html
15:25 <@benthemeek> From that site you posted this one http://kampanjeweb.apt.no/volkswagen/sommer12/#golf is pretty slick
15:25 < GateKeeper> Title: Volkswagen Sommer 2012 (at kampanjeweb.apt.no)
15:26 < frsilent> hahah yeah
15:26 < frsilent> I'm trying to find a pretty awesome resume using it I found a few months ago
15:32 < frsilent> no luck; it looked like a side-scroller though & had tributes to mario
15:32 < frsilent> ie a player sprite swimming past fish with different technologies on their sides
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15:50 <@Dolemite> time to escape!
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16:41 <@SuMo_D> that is a good article, and yeah the parallax scrolling has a very cool effect
16:42 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgPoHnSar-E
16:42 < GateKeeper> Title: Should TV Be Shown In Cinemas? - IGN Conversation - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:45 <@wilpig> clear
16:45 <@wilpig> doh
16:46 < aestetix_> penis
16:46 < aestetix_> https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1015
16:46 < GateKeeper> Title: Removed use of gendered pronoun by alex · Pull Request #1015 · joyent/libuv · GitHub (at github.com)
16:46 <@SuMo_D> have any of you guys played this ? http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ee4b/
16:47 < aestetix_> github, the gift that keeps on giving
16:47 < GateKeeper> Title: ThinkGeek :: Redshirts Deluxe Edition Card Game (at www.thinkgeek.com)
16:47 <@SuMo_D> is it worth the money? Thinking Christmas presents
16:48 <@SuMo_D> aestetix_ you're still following that?
16:48 < aestetix_> I just glanced at it
16:48 < aestetix_> it's amazing
16:48 <@SuMo_D> I guess its like a text based reality television if you think about it
16:48 <@SuMo_D> sooooo baaaaaad can't turn aways...
16:48 < aestetix_> I think it's a less classy version of les miserables
16:48 <@SuMo_D> but less producers
16:49 < aestetix_> "how bad can it get?"
16:49 <@SuMo_D> lol
17:00 < aestetix_> ugh
17:00 < aestetix_> http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/02/y-combinator-alum-strikingly-launches-its-super-easy-one-click-site-builder/
17:00 < aestetix_> it seems like YC is only funding website widget companies
17:54 < RangerZ> MBLCM10 5% off newegg code for next 10 hours, if anyone cares (12pm PST i think)
17:56 <@Corydon76-work> That would be am, but okay
17:57 < aestetix_> god
17:57 < aestetix_> carl cox is awesome
17:57 < aestetix_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfT-33jimkk
17:57 < GateKeeper> Title: Carl Cox @ The Revolution in Space Ibiza - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:06 <@wilpig> where's my box you assholes!?  http://www.newegg.com/Info/TrackOrder.aspx?TrackingNumber=1ZX799390341925192&Type=1
18:11 <@wilpig> oh and for the record my dad is an evil genius.
18:12 <@wilpig> he said when my ex doesn't pay up, and she won't, instead of taking her to court just get a debt collection company to go after her instead.  they're rabid and will annoy the living piss out of her until she pays or dies
18:14 < aestetix_> wilpig: well soon you'll get it delivered by a drone
18:34 <@Corydon76-work> Oh, thank god.  Ed Kramer is finally a registered sex offender.
18:35 <@Corydon76-work> http://www.ajc.com/news/news/dragon-con-co-founder-pleads-guilty/nb8rN/
18:35 < GateKeeper> Title: Dragon Con co-founder avoids prison | www.ajc.com (at www.ajc.com)
18:53 < RangerZ> aestetix_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1YItVvCXGk
18:53 < GateKeeper> Title: Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag - PS4 / Playstation 4 Version - Opinions On 1080p HD PS4 Version - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:53 < RangerZ> opps, sorry
18:53 < RangerZ> aestetix_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aqrhL0-Ehg&amp;feature=youtube_gdata
18:53 < GateKeeper> Title: Person Shot Dead Over PS4 Sale - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:53 < RangerZ> was shot in bay area over PS4
18:54 < RangerZ> http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_24635565/san-francisco-sale-video-game-system-turns-deadly local link
18:54 < GateKeeper> Title: San Francisco: Sale of Playstation 4 video game system turns deadly - San Jose Mercury News (at www.mercurynews.com)
18:55 < aestetix_> https://twitter.com/Driedfred/status/407063820192858112
18:55 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / Driedfred: My new credit card came in ... (at twitter.com)
19:03 < RangerZ> "On 12/2/13 at approximately 12:15 PM a student contacted VUPD to report that an unknown black male with a thin build, small beard, and short afro style hair exposed himself to the student behind the Sigma Nu House.  The suspect was reportedly sitting in a 4 door black Honda Civic and called the student over to ask for directions to the bookstore. The student noticed he was not wearing pants or underwear.  "
19:21 <@Shadow404> oh shit, they got my description
19:21 <@Shadow404> but at least the disguise worked
19:24 < aestetix_> can someone please tell me why this is worth paying money for? http://hive.org/curriculum/
19:26 <@wilpig> cause you make a shitload of money and need some type of legitimate looking business expense to use a line item to really fund a vacation on your investors money?
19:27 < RangerZ> aestetix_: OBVIOUSLY
19:27 < RangerZ> its to make the HIVE organizers money
19:27 < RangerZ> i mean...
19:29 < aestetix_> haha
19:29 <@wilpig> didn't resident evil center around the hive?
19:30 < aestetix_> wait
19:30 < aestetix_> that whole course is also online
19:31 < aestetix_> http://hive.org/course/entrepreneurship/ceo/ wow
19:35 <@wilpig> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343103/  this is a wtf
19:35 < GateKeeper> Title: Raptor Ranch (2013) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
19:43 < RangerZ> http://www.lolwtfcomics.com/upload/uploads/1337476839.jpg
19:44 < aestetix_> ok so
19:44 < aestetix_> on one hand, undocumented features are annoying
19:45 < aestetix_> on the other hand, documenting features that don't exist yet is satan incarnate
19:45 < RangerZ> what do you mean?
19:45 < RangerZ> i do that all day long, when i write up 'what i did today'
19:45 < RangerZ> lol
19:45 < aestetix_> no I mean
19:46 < aestetix_> you know the list you get when you say "program --help"
19:46 < aestetix_> including a feature in there that isn't actually present in your code
19:46 < aestetix_> and then pushing the fucking thing to github
19:48 <@wilpig> that is kinda funny
19:49 < aestetix_> well it's like
19:49 < aestetix_> I grepped through the source for all the other features
19:49 < aestetix_> and the code is there
19:49 < aestetix_> but not for the feature I need
19:49 <@wilpig> another kinda funny is there hasn't been a reply from the asshat whom dol and I both agree didn't run the upgrade for opendcim and tried to just apply the sql updates and thought it was good to go
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20:04 <@wilpig> damnit aestetix_.  you're pushing this identity shit a little far now.  http://news.sciencemag.org/plants-animals/2013/12/lawsuits-could-turn-chimpanzees-legal-persons
20:05 < GateKeeper> Title: Lawsuits Could Turn Chimpanzees Into Legal Persons | Science/AAAS | News (at news.sciencemag.org)
20:07 < RangerZ> actually i don't know how i feel about that, could be funny to see chips above corps though
20:09 <@SuMo_D> hey guys... my friend is looking for a jacket like this https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/1481925_10201911599504786_1936223131_n.jpg?oh=a31d2f36a5712de2933a92d71c683d5a&oe=529F5250
20:10 <@wilpig> real snake skin?
20:10 <@SuMo_D> size 44, you guys are in Nashville for the most part right? Any thoughts
20:10 <@SuMo_D> faux
20:10 < RangerZ> main st
20:10 < RangerZ> 2nd shop from the corner
20:10 < RangerZ> has a wall of them
20:10 <@wilpig> that would be a good bet
20:10 < RangerZ> next to the cowboy boots
20:10 <@SuMo_D> do you know the name?
20:11 < RangerZ> i'm completely making it up
20:11 <@SuMo_D> my friend lives in NYC
20:11 < RangerZ> but there probably is
20:11 <@SuMo_D> lol
20:11 <@wilpig> roberts western wear, I think
20:11 <@SuMo_D> I would think so
20:11 < RangerZ> yeah, that might be it
20:12 <@wilpig> I can guarantee they'll have snakeskin cowboy hats.  not sure on jackets.  might be better off searching online
20:13 <@SuMo_D> yeah, been trying, found a few nice ones... but they are either 5,000$ or size 2
20:13 <@SuMo_D> who da fak is a size 2...
20:13 < RangerZ> well, thats what you are going to get
20:13 < RangerZ> size 0 is smaller
20:15 < RangerZ> apparently "you want your admirers to be more suave about wanting to bend you into positions that would make gumbi scream" was NOT the right thing for me to say *shrugs*
20:16 < RangerZ> friend of mine was on the female "guys shouldn't look at women like pieces of meat"
20:16 < RangerZ> rant
20:16 < RangerZ> LOL
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20:17 < RangerZ> hehehe @ "RIP Paul Walker | Driving and Racing torrents are freeleech"
20:18 < aestetix_> wilpig: hahaha
20:20 < aestetix_> I wonder how many of these idiots also drive SUVs
20:58 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Tell her "Couldda, wouldda, shoudda.  It's thinking like that what wiped out the Shakers."
20:58 < RangerZ> there are 3 left
20:58 < RangerZ> in VA
21:03 <@Dagmar> I need to find someplace in Nashville that isn't afraid of dumbshits and sells non-suck *FULL LENGTH* black leather trenchcoats
21:04 <@Dagmar> THe one I have now is freakin' peeling a bit
21:04 <@Dagmar> It's find another one and/or see about maybe giving it a coat of plasti-dip
21:10 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTUedWfvQR0 so D3 looks to be acutally fun when they don't want to rape you from AH fees
21:10 < GateKeeper> Title: Treasure Goblin Packs in Nephalim Rifts - Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls Closed Beta - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
21:10 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/afp5fa55gnf658w/2013-12-02%2020.51.31.jpg
21:10 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-12-02 20.51.31.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
21:11 <@Dagmar> Is that a Profile 4?
21:11 <@wilpig> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816856039
21:12 <@Dagmar> No, in the top right.   What is that
21:12 <@Dagmar> It looks a *lot* like my Profile 4
21:12 <@wilpig> kvm?
21:12 <@Dagmar> No, wait.  That's one of those monitors with the parrots on it
21:12 < RangerZ> yeah its the KVM
21:13 <@wilpig> oh yeah the monitor is a viewsonic
21:13 < RangerZ> ohh the monitor
21:14 <@Dagmar> This is the thing I've been doing my homezone spoofing with http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachments/garage-sale/105454d1184184923-two-2-5-ghz-p4-gateway-profile-4-all-one-computer-80gig-hd-512mb-ram-$275-img_5022.jpg
21:14 <@Dagmar> Or at least, that's the model
21:15 <@Dagmar> I've decided to abandon the fucking bash script and just make the fucker in perl, because it's not so fucking nighmarish to handle listening to tcpdump at the same time
21:16 <@Dagmar> Trying to work out the optimal filter rules now so that it can literally just turn up the wifi, wait for the 3DS to do it's thing, and the moment it's done, change to a new MAC.
21:16 <@Dagmar> ...since it's nice enough to do an explicit DHCP release and all
21:16 < RangerZ> how very well behaved of it
21:16 < RangerZ> lol
21:16 <@wilpig> I've noticed that as well
21:16 <@wilpig> http://i.imgur.com/zM0FfrX.png  <-- added the new array 
21:19 <@Dagmar> So this Dookhan case... I'd like to see someone official explain why the prosecutors who clearly knew this woman was falsifying test results for them, are not also looking ata a long jail sentence.
21:19 <@Dagmar> ...because we're talking about *thousands* of bogus evidence reports.
21:20 <@Dagmar> Seems like there should be *plenty* of jail time to go around.
21:22 <@Dagmar> http://filmingcops.com/corrupt-government-chemist-tampered-with-40000-cases-locking-countless-innocent-americans-in-prison/
21:29 < RangerZ> agreed
21:31 <@Dagmar> Very clearly this DA who was leading her to falsify reports knew _exactly_ what he was doing, and all that's happened is he resigned
21:31 <@Dagmar> Their sentence should literally be equal to the amount of time their victims served for falsifying shit
21:35 < RangerZ> why?
21:35 < RangerZ> only the poor go to jail
21:35 < RangerZ> they are REAL citizens
21:35 < RangerZ> or humans
21:35 <@Dagmar> That's like saying only the poor get shot.
21:36 <@Dagmar> ...which is only because people aren't trying hard enough.
21:36 < RangerZ> i'm just trolling, saying what asshats would say
21:36 < RangerZ> but yeah, its sadly full of "truthyness"
21:37 <@Dagmar> Damn.  Forgot to buy more cigarettes.
21:37 < RangerZ> you know
21:37 < RangerZ> you should try to quit
21:37 < RangerZ> vandy unix systems would LOVE that time period
21:39 <@Dagmar> huh?
21:39 < RangerZ> aren't you switching jobs?
21:39 <@Dagmar> Already did
21:39 < RangerZ> ohh ok
21:39 < RangerZ> what you doing 'now' ?
21:40 <@Dagmar> Playing Animal Crossing
21:41 <@wilpig> haha
22:00 < RangerZ> ass
22:11 <@wilpig> damned neighbors phone is jumping on my homepass.  ;)
22:11 <@wilpig> Dec  3 03:08:46 PiRelay dnsmasq-dhcp[4043]: DHCPACK(wlan0) 192.168.23.54 14:10:9f:c2:4d:7d iPhone
22:11 <@Dagmar> Ya gotta whitelist
22:13 <@wilpig> I'm thinking I should just sniff instead
23:38 <@oddball> wilpig: I ordered a RAID enclosure like yours and 4 3TB drives today. :)
23:43 < RangerZ> just sneakernet copy that shit
23:43 < RangerZ> lol
23:49 <@oddball> So... I guess I'll set up a RAID 5, and start ripping DVDs. ::)
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