--- Log opened Tue Nov 26 00:00:34 2013
00:01 <@Dagmar> That's because Francis deserves to be given shit
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00:15 < RangerZ> well yeah, thats the point of francis
00:15 < RangerZ> but boggie is actually pretty interesting
00:15 < RangerZ> boogie*
00:18 < RangerZ> So.... anyone know a good place/brand of monitor arms? I'm looking to get a 2nd monitor and either a dual mount or 2x single mounts
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00:28 < aestetix_> ok
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00:33 < RangerZ> aestetix_: ok?
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00:34 < aestetix_> that was directed at SuMo_D
00:35 <@SuMo_D> yes ok hello what there no hi hi hi
00:35 <@SuMo_D> If you ever run for Bay area politics that could be your campaign poster?
00:44 < RangerZ> so I've grown to love/hate maven
00:45 < RangerZ> great when someone else builds your pom files
00:45 < RangerZ> fucking bullshit motherfucking GRRRRR when you have to write your own
00:46 < aestetix_> SuMo_D: I never say hi
00:46 < aestetix_> maybe vagina
00:56 < aestetix_> wow
00:56 < aestetix_> the Educreations iPad app rocks
00:57 < aestetix_> RangerZ: my campaign poster would be a vagina
00:59 <@SuMo_D> no.. that was just me saying hi
00:59 <@SuMo_D> but yes
00:59 <@SuMo_D> Vagina!
01:00 <@SuMo_D> Dude... I'm watching one of the resident Evil movies.... and the Zombies are so fast! I got used to the Walking Dead Zombies that just kinda.... meander till they all go... errrrrrrr FOOOOOOOD
01:03 <@SuMo_D> These Resident Evil Zombies are like SPRINT TO THE FOOOOOOD then have some kind of weird take on the Blade II next gen vampires... which that movie still pisses me off cause they ripped off Warriors of Zu Mountain and killed off Donnie Yen way too early...
01:06 < RangerZ> lol
01:06 < RangerZ> i like all the blade movies
01:07 < RangerZ> for what they are, not saying they are oscar worthy, but good action flicks
01:08 < RangerZ> huh.. i forgot about that, there is an anime blade series that came out last year
01:08 < RangerZ> http://www.crackle.com/c/marvel-anime-blade/his-name-is-blade/2487189
01:08 < GateKeeper> Title: Watch Marvel Anime: Blade, His Name is...Blade, Season 1, Episode 1 Online Free - Crackle (at www.crackle.com)
01:08 < RangerZ> the wolverine and iron man ones were good
01:17 < RangerZ> aestetix_: http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a9d1151_700b_v2.jpg half the bay area, lol
01:19 <@SuMo_D> I LOVED the first Blade... the 2nd was horrible... 3rd... meh...
01:19 < aestetix_> wow nice
01:19 < aestetix_> I didn't know nginx could do log write buffering
01:19 <@Dagmar> lol
01:19 < aestetix_> access_log /dev/nginx_access log_format_name buffer=64k flush=10s;
01:19 <@Dagmar> Reading news.y I take it?
01:20 < aestetix_> Dagmar: the "We should ditch nginx" article?
01:20 <@Dagmar> hehe
01:20 <@Dagmar> Yep
01:20 < aestetix_> what's so funny?
01:20 <@Dagmar> The comments
01:21 <@Dagmar> MANY people noted basically "WTF man.  You're clearly making a lot of money with this thing.  You can't be bothered to pay someone a little?"
01:21 < aestetix_> also, the reason to dump apache is because it's fucking slow and a memory hog
01:21 < aestetix_> there is that too
01:21 <@Dagmar> Apache actualyl runs pretty well
01:21 <@Dagmar> It's all the bullshit php that make it a problem
01:21 < aestetix_> I was running apache with django/python, and it was awful
01:22 < aestetix_> that was after disabling modules, etc
01:22 < aestetix_> moved to uwsgi, sooo much better memory use
01:22 <@Dagmar> So, did you even have caching for the python?
01:22 < aestetix_> caching for python?
01:23 <@Dagmar> Yes.  STartup time is a motherfucker to pay over and over again
01:23 < aestetix_> You mean the prefork memory load?
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01:24 <@Dagmar> Perl runs fast as fuck with some things, but if you're doing a very small thing over and over, it will appear to run like shit because just initializing perl itself costs you a lot of cycles
01:24 < aestetix_> right
01:24 <@Dagmar> Hence, mod_perl
01:24 <@Dagmar> Hence, mod_php
01:24 < aestetix_> and mod_wsgi?
01:25 <@Dagmar> Yep
01:25 < aestetix_> so yes, one of the things I did was move us from mod_python to mod_wsgi
01:25 < aestetix_> which helped a lot
01:26 <@Dagmar> So don't blame Apache for mod_python then
01:26 < aestetix_> I think I was in the process of tweaking wsgi when someone tested out a build with uwsgi and nginx, and the performance was so much better that we said "fuck it"
01:26 < aestetix_> fair enough
01:26 < aestetix_> I can't say how much better apache could have been if we'd tweaked mod_wsgi more
01:27 < aestetix_> although running in mpm_prefork mode kind of defeated it
01:27 <@Dagmar> i'm not trying to be a bitch or anything, but lately I begin to suspect that people are _really_ likely to blame the webserver for crappy architecture
01:27 < aestetix_> nah it's ok
01:27 <@Dagmar> ...or for programmers that lack regular beatings.
01:27 < aestetix_> you mean like how we couldn't move to mpm_worker because the code wasn't threadsafe?
01:28 <@Dagmar> I got an alert today from one of our webservers that it's load had spiked to a degree known to mean "THE SERVER IS ABOUT TO SNUFF IT" which now runs ever ten fucking seconds.
01:28 <@Dagmar> I tried to tail access_log to see WTF.  No, that was dumb.  Did the same to error_log... Instant despair.
01:29 <@Dagmar> Whose code might currently be fucking over the webserver?  I'm seeing bullshit spewing to error_log from nine different department's stuff
01:29 < aestetix_> ahhhh
01:29 < aestetix_> I cannot tell you how many times I've been blamed for server issues, until I sent back log files showing bad code timeouts
01:29 <@Dagmar> Simplepie is apparently magic fairy dust now
01:30 <@Dagmar> People just throw it in there and go "Wow everything is so fast"
01:30 < aestetix_> well the other thing
01:30 < aestetix_> a lot of startups have hackathons
01:30 <@Dagmar> Meanwhile, nineteen times a second, simplepie is saying to error_log, "Um... I can't fucking cache anything because I don't know where to write it"
01:30 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: Yeah, I tend to view those as complete shitfests for quality
01:30 < aestetix_> that is, they bring some kid in for a week, let them code up a new feature, and if the feature is good, the kid gets an offer, and the code is moved to production
01:30 < aestetix_> and you already know what happens after that
01:31 <@Dagmar> Yes.  Admins like me plot their early interment.
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01:31 <@Dagmar> You only have to fuck up and forget isset once in the right place to murder a webserver
01:33 <@Dagmar> One of those thing at the office that I'd like to address but have never had the time to is setting some goddam restrictions on the webserver because our users are idiots about that
01:33 <@Dagmar> Hampering efforts is that if you're monitoring the system quickyl enough, you can just shoot apache in the face and so fucking what if someone's broken ass code terminated early
01:34 <@Dagmar> ...but if you're not, the system can try to spool so much shit to error_log so fast that it backs up the writes to disk in the kernel apparently
01:34 <@Dagmar> Then the OOM killer goes apeshit
01:34 < aestetix_> haha
01:35 <@Dagmar> It's SUPER awesome in a VM environment when one thread can run very fast indeed compared to the rest of the system
01:36 <@Dagmar> I suspect vmware might share some of th blame for that, but like I've implied already, fuck these php devs for doing that in the first place
01:38 <@Dagmar> Actually, I can kinda shorten that to a general statement of hatred towards php devs in general.
01:38 <@Dagmar> WAI U USE BAD LANGUAGE
01:38 <@Dagmar> WAI
01:39 < aestetix_> I basically just stopped caring a while ago
01:39 <@Dagmar> I can find reasons for that hate based on pretty much any language tho
01:39 <@Dagmar> Except Haskell coders.
01:40 <@Dagmar> ...which is largely because in my empirical experience, they do not exist and thusly are not a problem at all.
01:40 < aestetix_> hmm. ramdisk... does that create a file system in ram?
01:40 < aestetix_> IE if I have a gig of ramdisk, is that a gig of ext3/4?
01:40 <@Dagmar> Sort of.  Depends on how you do it
01:40 <@Dagmar> There's two ways to do it, and one of which involves half in ram and half in swap
01:40 < aestetix_> hmm
01:41 < aestetix_> ramdisk seems useful provided you use offpeak times to transfer things in ramdisk to actual disk
01:41 <@Dagmar> ...but Minecraft benefits greatly from being given a ramdisk if your users are big on blowing shit up
01:42 <@Dagmar> It's useful if you can manage to keep the amount of shit that needs to be written super-duper fast to within a fixed limit
01:43 <@Dagmar> But... keep in mind that the very nature of this disk means a reboot WILL incur a complete loss of that filesystem.
01:43 <@Dagmar> Yay funs
01:43 <@Dagmar> Many happies
01:44 < aestetix_> true, true
01:46 <@Dagmar> I still chuckle that I caught one kid trying to use a ramdisk with mysql
01:47 < aestetix_> please tell me in the /var/log/mysql directory
01:47 < aestetix_> and not the /var/lib/mysql
01:47 <@Dagmar> Heheheh
01:47 < aestetix_> actually
01:47 < aestetix_> have you seen memsql?
01:47 <@Dagmar> Nope
01:48 < aestetix_> database stored entirely in memory
01:53 <@Dagmar> I was under the impression there's actually a lot of db servers that can *do* that, but most people are fine with something that lets the database server process get the bits it needs into RAM on demand
01:53 <@Dagmar> ...because we've got like 30Gb of mysql databases
01:54 <@Dagmar> The VM has like 4gb of RAM, maybe 6.  I can't remember/
01:54 < aestetix_> well
01:54 <@Dagmar> It's "fast enough" like that
01:55 < aestetix_> hosting /var/lib/mysql in memory makes no sense if you use the buffer pool
01:55 <@Dagmar> Yeah I did just ask him "have you tried telling Mysql 'use all teh rams'?"
01:55 <@Dagmar> It's the shiny new hammer problem
01:56 <@Dagmar> Some people's curriculum appears to lack study of data storage
01:56 <@Dagmar> ...and data storage theory
01:57 <@Dagmar> I kinda think he shoudl not have immediately gone "Hey!  I can use this with mysql" after learning how easy it was to make a ramdisk
02:01 < aestetix_> heh
02:10 < RangerZ> so i noticed Dagmar hasn't been threatening to burn down oak hill
02:11 < RangerZ> and i found out why last night, congrats on new job (lateral shift), lol
02:12 < aestetix_> http://imgur.com/6Azpn5n
02:12 < GateKeeper> Title: And you thought you had to work around assholes all day... - Imgur (at imgur.com)
02:12 < aestetix_> you know, sometimes I question art
02:12 < RangerZ> ok...wtf... 5 ads before each of the 3 parts of colbert report, ugh
02:14 < aestetix_> http://imgur.com/a5MFZDX
02:14 < GateKeeper> Title: He just wanted to get some. - Imgur (at imgur.com)
02:14 < aestetix_> south carolina.... classsy
02:14 <@SuMo_D> you know it...
02:15 <@SuMo_D> aestetitx_ isnt' one of the the points of art to question?
02:15 < aestetix_> yes
02:16 < aestetix_> and it would have been art if "rmutt" had been written on each of the assholes
02:16 <@SuMo_D> ... and its the low country... going to go with that excuse today
02:16 <@SuMo_D> lol
02:16 <@SuMo_D> it would have been awesome if rmutt was here was tattooed inside...
02:17 <@SuMo_D> I'm trying to think of the guy who spoke at the SMFA graduation the year after me... started with a V something...
02:18 <@SuMo_D> anyway his claim to fame is that he built a wonky wooden floor in a gallery, and put himself underneth it in a a very cramped position with a microphone hooked up to a speaker in the corner and mastrabated and yelled at people all day
02:19 <@SuMo_D> apparently... his graduation speech was... and then I became an architect - so fuck you art and all you art people
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02:20 <@SuMo_D> We had Robbie Conal - which was even better...
02:20 <@SuMo_D> :)
02:28 <@SuMo_D> http://www.moma.org/collection/object.php?object_id=109933
02:29 < aestetix_> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/11/22/why-women-still-need-husbands/
02:29 < GateKeeper> Title: Why women still need husbands | Fox News (at www.foxnews.com)
02:33 <@SuMo_D> is it cause they're traumatized by Vito Acconci ?
02:34 < RangerZ> goodnight
02:38 <@SuMo_D> ... " Unlike women, a man’s identity is inextricably linked to his paycheck."
02:38 <@SuMo_D> There's so much stupid in there it hurts... but that one... wow
02:47 <@SuMo_D> I love how there is a button on the Acconi page for the MoMa store... here get merch to remember this wonderful moment in time you spend contemplating this
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06:18 <@Shadow404> heh, 16k of deleted items being emptied, this might take some time
06:56 < wilpig_> Happy Harassment Day!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTVGREJ6YmQ
06:56 < GateKeeper> Title: Patrice ONeal @ Comix 2010 NYC - "Sexual Harassment Day" - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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06:59 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:02 < wilpig_> shut your dirty whore mouf
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07:02 <@Shadow404> shut your filthy whore hole
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07:05 <@wilpig> I can't believe it's been two years now since he died
07:11 <@Shadow404> i cant beleive its not butter
07:24 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRTiAhsXsa8
07:24 < GateKeeper> Title: BÀI CA PHỞ: What does the Pho say [The Fox Vietnamese Parody] - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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07:38 <@Dolemite> Ha!
07:40 <@wilpig> I can't believe I just watched that
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08:21 <@wilpig> Shadow404: you still wanting xcom?
08:21 <@wilpig> it's $10 today
08:25 <@wilpig> http://www.amazon.com/XCOM-Collection-Online-Game-Code/dp/B00ECHYTKY/ref=sr_1_6?s=videogames-download&ie=UTF8&qid=1385475602&sr=1-6
08:30 <@Dolemite> steam needs to price match!
08:30 <@Dolemite> I may have to pick that up for $10
08:32 <@Shadow404> wilpig: not bad
08:33 <@Shadow404> wilpig: is there any multiplayer through steam?
08:33 <@Shadow404> like if i buy it on amazon, does it block me from playhing with you on steam
08:34 <@wilpig> it says the drm is through steam
08:34 <@Shadow404> ah, so it may just end up giving a steam key
08:35 <@Shadow404> sorta like humble bundles
08:35 <@Shadow404> yep
08:35 <@Shadow404> Steam account required for game activation and installation
08:35 <@Shadow404> so its all good then, ill consider it
08:38 <@Dolemite> Wow.  BioShock triple pack for $14.99
08:39 <@Shadow404> i know right, amazon kicks ass
08:44 <@wilpig> we have packages so I gotta head downstairs
08:44 <@wilpig> hrmm.  why is my irc showing 8:44 instead of 9
08:44 <@Shadow404> same
08:44 <@Shadow404> did the server go to another time server?
08:44 <@wilpig> nm never fixed the timezone apparently
08:44 <@Shadow404> no, you did
08:45 <@wilpig> I ran updates yesterday it coul dhave set it back
08:45 <@Shadow404> cause it showed the correct time when u moved, i remember you even saying that
08:45 <@Shadow404> probably
08:45 <@Shadow404> i wanna see if it updates irssi real tim when u make the change
09:48 <@wilpig> alright.  heading downstairs to get this package and take the trash out
09:48 <@Shadow404> damn
09:48 <@Shadow404> that was real time
09:48 <@Shadow404> i watched it change
09:48 <@Shadow404> 08:45 <@Shadow404> i wanna see if it updates irssi real tim when u make the change
09:48 <@Shadow404> 09:48 <@wilpig> alright.  heading downstairs to get this package and take the trash out
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10:04 <@wilpig> Dolemite: did you just sign up for steam?
10:04 <@Shadow404> yeah? whats the username if you did?
10:04 <@Dolemite> No, I've been on steam for ages.  I just finally added you to my friends list.
10:05 <@Dolemite> samilliken
10:05 <@wilpig> I just got a friend request from a "scott"
10:08 <@wilpig> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043024781
10:08 <@wilpig> is that you?
10:08 < GateKeeper> Title: Steam Community :: scott (at steamcommunity.com)
10:16 <@Dolemite> yeah, that'd be me
10:16 <@Dolemite> I guess I need to set up my community profile
10:18 <@wilpig> yeah that jus tpopped up in my invites. no idea why
10:20 <@Dolemite> ok, it's more obvious, now
10:20 <@Dolemite> You can search for Dolemite
10:24 < eryc> http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2013/11/24/nasa-rejection-letter-pic/
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10:33 <@wilpig> where the picture of the letter he sent in?
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11:03 < RangerZ> yeah, steam has allowed 3rd parties to sell steam keys now
11:03 < RangerZ> whoops... guess I wasn't scrolled down
11:04 < RangerZ> and lulz @ MS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_00JGdjq2Ek
11:04 < GateKeeper> Title: Xbox One News - UK Users Currently Unable To Access Multiplayer Or Redeem Xbox Live Sub - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
11:04 < RangerZ> after the xbox one not being able to play PAL properly... LOL
11:06 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: invite sent
11:17 <@opticron> xBone strikes again
12:07 <@Dolemite> Well the Bangers & Mash was not completely inedible at the cafeteria today
12:07 <@Dolemite> The fried okra, on the other hand...
12:10 <@wilpig> was delicious?
12:16 <@wilpig> I knew it.  he's still enjoying it because it was so tasty
12:52 <@brimstone> lol pal
12:55 <@wilpig> damn you sprint!
12:55 <@wilpig> I was about to order lunch and my phone is telling me it can't be validated
12:55 <@wilpig> even when I call 611
12:56 <@wilpig> ARG!  WTF?!
12:56 <@wilpig> Sprint: Thank you for waiting, you're in our Chat queue in position 15. We will connect you to a specialist soon.
12:56 <@wilpig> Sprint: Thank you for waiting, you're in our Chat queue in position 16. We will connect you to a specialist soon.
12:56 <@brimstone> someone bumped you
12:56 <@wilpig> motherfuckers
12:58 <@wilpig> brimstone: I feel that you're somehow behind this
12:58 <@wilpig> or mog.  he's a shady fucker
12:58 <@brimstone> if i was, it would say 42 and you know it
12:59 <@brimstone> or 1337
12:59 <@brimstone> or error in some delightful way
12:59 <@wilpig> I just want to call fridays and order lunch.  how wrong is that?
12:59 <@brimstone> but it's tuesday!
12:59 <@wilpig> jack daniels steak....
13:00 <@Shadow404> But i agree with brimstone, its Tuesday
13:01 <@wilpig> Lucas A.: Thank you for contacting Sprint, my name is Lucas A.. I am happy to help you today.
13:01 <@wilpig> Lucas A.: Hi.
13:01 <@wilpig> You: Lucas, my phone is being an asshole. fix it please
13:02 <@wilpig> Lucas A.: You have a samsung galaxy s3, right?
13:02 <@wilpig> You: correct
13:02 <@wilpig> Lucas A.: Please follow the below steps.
13:02 <@wilpig> Lucas A.: On the phone dial pad press ##72786#.Lucas A.: You have a samsung galaxy s3, right?
13:02 <@wilpig> You: correct
13:02 <@wilpig> Lucas A.: Please follow the below steps.
13:03 <@wilpig> Lucas A.: On the phone dial pad press ##72786#.
13:04 <@Corydon76-work> He instructed you to do a factory reset?
13:04 <@wilpig> apparently
13:05 <@wilpig> it wiped the carrier info
13:05 <@Shadow404> did it work?
13:06 <@wilpig> rebooting
13:06 <@Shadow404> doesnt that mean you lost all your data?
13:06 <@wilpig> it appeared to wipe the carrier info, then it rebooted then set itself back up with the network
13:06 <@wilpig> no all my data is still there
13:06 <@Shadow404> whew, thats good
13:09 <@wilpig> heh
13:09 <@wilpig> Lucas A.: Is there anything else I can assist you with today?
13:09 <@wilpig> Lucas A.: Great.
13:09 <@wilpig> You: nope. unless you want to pay for lunch that I was trying to order when i discovered my phone was being an asshole
13:09 <@wilpig> Lucas A.: I am sorry for your inconvenience.
13:09 <@wilpig> You: That's a no to lunch?
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13:11 <@Corydon76-work> You know English is probably not his first language, right?
13:11 <@Mirage> wilpig: updating PRL on your phone?
13:12 <@wilpig> yeah.
13:12 <@Shadow404> hehe, you should of asked him again
13:13 <@Shadow404> they arent allowed to finish the chat till you end the session or say thats all you need help with
13:15 < aestetix_> wait
13:15 < aestetix_> so if you wanted to be a dick you could call them on google voice or something and just leave it?
13:16 <@Shadow404> im talking about live support chat, not phone support
13:17 <@Shadow404> as long as the question is completely ridiculous, you can keep them going indefinitely
13:18 < aestetix_> oh wow
13:18 < aestetix_> so I could have a script filled with stupid questions
13:18 < aestetix_> and just leave it running?
13:19 < aestetix_> Shadow404: does the question have to be related to tech?
13:19 <@Mirage> I dunno if google could take the extra load of confusing an entire call-center
13:20 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: yeah, once i ran out of tech question related to te product, the session ended
13:21 <@Shadow404> was sorta fun for a few minutes to annoy him, since my product was out of warranty by a week
13:24 <@Shadow404> who the hell does a backup on an active production db server in the middle of a work day, even if it was an emergency, notify us so the scripts dont error out randomly geez
13:28 <@Shadow404> that like hiring Timball to be the manager of a Shoe Store
13:36 < aestetix_> so
13:36 < aestetix_> http://venturebeat.com/2013/11/25/15-of-employees-are-required-to-use-personal-social-accounts-for-work-survey/
13:36 < aestetix_> this is relevant to nymrights
13:39 <@Shadow404> yeah, no, i would dispute using my personal accounts for work
13:39 <@Shadow404> and go right to HR to complain
13:41 <@opticron> and then if forced, tell them you're calling <social network X> to report a violation of ToS and quickly change the password to something else
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13:43 < aestetix_> Shadow404: this is going to hit the millennials hard
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13:45 <@Shadow404> yeah, screw that, not gonna happen to me....
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13:45 <@Shadow404> i will refuse and take that right to the proper authorities
13:46 <@Shadow404> i had a company keep badgering us to "Like" them on facebook
13:46 <@Shadow404> not gonna happen
13:46 < aestetix_> Well
13:46 <@wilpig> haha.  how I met your mother from last night is cracking me up
13:46 < aestetix_> That's easy if you just say "I don't have a facebook"
13:46 < aestetix_> Although more and more I run into people around here who are shocked I don't have one.
13:47 <@Shadow404> none of their business if i do or dont
13:47 < aestetix_> Shadow404: agreed
13:49 < aestetix_> Shadow404: this is also an argument I have with "hackerspace" kids who see no issue with using google for everything, or posting their personal phone numbers and address on the public mailing lists
13:50 < aestetix_> "Why the hell would you put your personal information on the internet like that?"
13:52 <@Shadow404> diffrent mindset for that generation
13:52 <@rattle> There aren't really simple answers though when it comes to protecting your personal privacy.
13:52 < aestetix_> rattle: I agree
13:52 <@Shadow404> i see identify fraud getting worse
13:52 < aestetix_> But there are stupid things that you could avoid doing
13:52 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: what i was gonna say
13:52 < aestetix_> Like posting your home address and phone number on a public list
13:53 < aestetix_> And by public I mean archived by google
13:53 <@wilpig> or on an icann registration?
13:53 < aestetix_> wilpig: that too
13:53 < aestetix_> wilpig: do not even get me started :)
13:53 <@rattle> I maintain really tight personal opsec regarding internet usage, services I trust, etc..  But there is very little you can't find out about me through open sources for a multitude of reasons.
13:54 <@rattle> ..  and that's typical.
13:55 < aestetix_> What do you mean by open sources?
13:55 <@rattle> ..  especially if you've ever owned a home, been an officer in a company, etc..
13:55 < aestetix_> Ahhhh.
13:55 <@rattle> Public records, non-classified databases, etc..
13:56 <@rattle> Reality is, if you want to invest money in it, you can find out a lot about someone.
13:56 <@SuMo_D> rattle.... opsec I haven't heard that term for years... we used to get AFRTS in the gulf and every other commercial was about opsec
13:56 < aestetix_> rattle: are public records able to resell your data?
13:57 <@rattle> Depends..  In most cases, yes.
13:57 <@SuMo_D> aestetix_ I believe so
13:57 < aestetix_> I mean, there is a fundamental access difference here. 10 years ago the technical barriers to this were high. Now we have BigData
13:58 <@SuMo_D> y u no love BigDada aestetix_ ? :P
13:58 <@rattle> I hate that term.
13:58 <@rattle> Almost as much as I hate the term "internet of things".
13:58 <@SuMo_D> BigData loves you
13:58 < aestetix_> hahah
13:58 <@SuMo_D> Big Dada actually is more apt isn't it
13:58 < aestetix_> rattle: I was looking for a catchall phrase :p
13:58 <@rattle> shit..  I just puked up a little in my mouth because I typed it.
13:58 <@wilpig> can't say i've heard an internet of things before
13:58 <@SuMo_D> really? it can get overused really quickly in certain circles
13:58 < aestetix_> Well here's the thing
13:59 <@rattle> wilpig: STOP SAYING IT.  NEVER SAY IT AGAIN.
13:59 < aestetix_> Let's say you have a magazine that gives you hives if you read it.
13:59 <@wilpig> it
13:59 <@wilpig> it 
13:59 <@wilpig> it
13:59 < aestetix_> Now we make sure everyone in the world has a copy of that magazine
13:59 <@wilpig> fuck you i'll say IT all I want
14:00  * SuMo_D walks her lobster around the room on a leash for the celebration of Big Dada! Fork!
14:00 < aestetix_> neep
14:00 < aestetix_> or is it nee
14:00 <@SuMo_D> the knights who say nee!
14:01 <@Dickie> ni
14:01 < aestetix_> phreak-ni-c
14:06 < aestetix_> vagina
14:06 <@SuMo_D> yes
14:07 < aestetix_> that was actually directed at wilpig
14:07 <@SuMo_D> yes
14:10 <@SuMo_D> So I just tried to look up the public records on me... I guess it helps it you have a pretty common name, also I moved a lot... it was funny I went for an interview a few months back at a chain and they asked me to list all the places I'd lived in the last 7 years... I was like... ummm that's a joke right?
14:10 <@SuMo_D> Apparently there are a lot of people with my exact name in Ohio... which isn't surprising...
14:11 <@Corydon76-work> SuMo_D: typically, as long as you have the state, that's enough
14:11 <@SuMo_D> there were a few in the state I used to live in with the same name too
14:12 <@rattle> There's another Nick Levay that lives in Virginia, and he's not so good about keeping his personal contact information out of range of the most basic Google search..
14:12 <@Corydon76-work> When they want that much info, they're usually looking to run a) a credit check, and b) a criminal background check
14:12 <@rattle> Every time I piss some script kiddie off, I feel a little bit worried about him.. :)
14:12 <@SuMo_D> when I lived in Boston there was one lady across town who had the same name and we went to the same bookstore, sometimes I'd forget my card and they'd look it up and get all confused
14:12 <@Corydon76-work> If you want true anonymity on the Internet, your best bet is to use the name of someone who is all over and thus you can hide in the noise
14:14 <@Corydon76-work> Some kid I've talked to in the past used the name "Ender Wiggin".  You couldn't find anything on any services the kid had used.
14:14 <@SuMo_D> cool
14:15 < aestetix_> You know
14:16 < aestetix_> It actually seems worthwhile to get your name changed to "John Smith"
14:16 <@rattle> And there's this guy, who really seems like a douche.  https://www.facebook.com/nick.levay.1?fref=browse_search
14:16 < GateKeeper> Title: Nick Levay (at www.facebook.com)
14:18 <@SuMo_D> awwww he's a baby douche... douche in training
14:19 <@rattle> He even admits to liking Nickelback.
14:22 < aestetix_> what is Nickelback?
14:24 <@wilpig> I didn't think nickelback even admitted to liking nickelback
14:24 <@rattle> Music from Canada that sucks so bad it's only surpassed in it's suck by Justin Beiber.
14:25 <@wilpig> don't bad mouth the canadian christ child like that
14:26 <@SuMo_D> I've seen several of these done but they always make me laughhttp://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/its-thanksgiving-so-we-asked-some-brits-to-label-the-us-stat
14:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Its Thanksgiving So We Asked Brits To Label The United States Were So Sorry, America (at www.buzzfeed.com)
14:27 <@SuMo_D> Apparently they don't know where Utah is... but they know where Nickleback is on a map
14:29 < aestetix_> http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/of-the-best-things-that-have-ever-happened-on-4chan
14:29 < GateKeeper> Title: 26 Of The Greatest Things That Have Ever Happened On 4chan (at www.buzzfeed.com)
14:57 <@Dagmar> I am not clicking that while I'm at work.
14:57 <@Dagmar> No.
14:58 <@Mirage> 4chan..it _has_ to be clicked
14:59 <@Dolemite> It's actually SFW.  This one time.
15:02  * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 
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16:22 <@Mirage> Don't you just love it when the SAN hiccups and 20-30 VMs on a certain lun flag their filesystems as Write Protect/RO
16:23 <@brimstone> always a good time
16:23 <@Mirage> The app servers are easy..the database servers are all hosed. been having to manually fsck the /ora* mounts.
16:24 <@Dagmar> It's the ADMINS SUPER AWESOME HOUR!
16:24 < aestetix_> oh wow the bay area is a small world
16:24 < aestetix_> I have an in person job interview tomorrow
16:24 < aestetix_> one of the people interviewing me was involved in the pycongate thing
16:24 <@Dagmar> Never looked at it on a map have you?
16:24 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: So leave the miniature dildo tie tack at home
16:24 < aestetix_> hahah
16:39 <@brimstone> it's actual size
16:45 <@SuMo_D> aestetix_ looking up pycongate... more gender asshattary?
16:45 < aestetix_> SuMo_D: yep!
16:46 <@SuMo_D> darg...
16:46 < aestetix_> I also just watched one of my mailing lists blow up because someone had "hurt feelings"
16:47 <@SuMo_D> **sig**
16:47 <@SuMo_D> **sigh**
16:47 <@SuMo_D> has everyone forgotten what beer is for?
16:47 < aestetix_> well
16:48 < aestetix_> it just reminds me of a time I had to sit and listen to this guy ramble about the "peace and love revolution"
16:48 <@SuMo_D> :)
16:48 <@SuMo_D> you mean it isn't coming?
16:48 < aestetix_> haha
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16:51 <@SuMo_D> wow... so pycon was a woman sitting in front of some guys, who made a hehehe that was cool Beavis joke about dongles and whatnot and she tweeted about it and they got fired????
16:52 <@oddball> yep
16:52 < aestetix_> so daniel ellsberg just got mugged
16:52 < aestetix_> right outside the eff office
16:53 < aestetix_> It is so tempted to make jokes about this
16:53 <@SuMo_D> Oh, and then she got fried too??? whaaaa... that is insane
16:55 <@oddball> SuMo_D: She got fired because her actions caused a shit ton of negative attention towards both herself and the company she worked for/represented.
16:55 <@oddball> It's been a while, so I forget the specifics.
16:56 < aestetix_> Yeah
16:56 <@SuMo_D> Guess it just goes to show... be careful with social media and work... especially if you're going to say something disparaging
16:57 <@oddball> yep
16:57 < aestetix_> So basically, it's an issue where the lines of public/private are really blurred
16:57 <@SuMo_D> that's what I was thinking
16:58 < aestetix_> man
16:58 < aestetix_> this ellsberg thing is too easy to make jokes about
16:58 < aestetix_> "1972 called, they want their drama back"
16:59 <@oddball> I think her head would have exploded if she had heard some of the comments about the "penetration specialist" class New Horizons offered while I was there.
16:59 < aestetix_> "Ellsberg got a visit from the ghost of Nixon future"
17:02 < aestetix_> i just twittered
17:02 < aestetix_> "I hope someone confirms that the culprit was *not* Gordon Liddy"
17:02 < aestetix_> That will make no sense to anyone under 25
17:03 <@SuMo_D> lol
17:03 <@SuMo_D> OOoooOOOo Bleep Laps having a sale today... Get $5 off any order of $55 or more "5off55yeahcoolthanks" - code
17:07 <@oddball> SuMo_D: REading up on it, it's also important to not that she was holding a PR position at the company that fired her.
17:07 <@SuMo_D> ah... yeah that makes a lot more sense oddball
17:08 <@rattle> aestetix_: btw, you've read this, correct?  http://geer.tinho.net/geer.uncc.9x13.txt
17:08 <@SuMo_D> the synopsis I read just said that she was fired
17:08 <@SuMo_D> and the press releases from the company
17:10 <@oddball> Yeah... it takes some digging to find out what her role at the company was, and the fact that the position was "Developer Evangelist" means that a lot of folks thought she was a developer.
17:12 <@oddball> Of course, there's also the fact that a lot of folks that watched the drama ensue fell into one of two camps: 1. "good for her, that was horrible" or 2. "stupid bitch is over sensitive and deserved firing."  Neither of them really thought that what position she held mattered much.
17:15 <@SuMo_D> yeah I saw the Developer Evangelist, I just figured it meant she was very pro python
17:16 < aestetix_> not yet
17:17 <@Dagmar> She got fired because she blew the whole damn thing out of proportion and it was very clear that her objective wasn't to handle the issue, it was to start drama and attract more twitter/blog followers
17:17 <@SuMo_D> didn't figure it meant she was in PR... but I could see that now... and yeah it was bad that she felt bad, but she wasn't even included in the conversation, it was overheard from behind her... and maybe she was being sensitive but it didn't deserve being fired over... nor the poor other dude
17:17 < aestetix_> oddball: my position was "this thing is totally fucked up, I'm staying in my room until it's over"
17:17 <@Dagmar> It was a conversation she overheard that wasn't very much, and she started a shitstorm over it
17:17 <@SuMo_D> like I said... people forget what beer is for... go get a beer with a friend and bitch about it don't involve the whole fucking internet
17:17 <@Dagmar> She knowingly caused a bunch of shit
17:17 < aestetix_> rattle: not yet, thanks for the link
17:18 <@Dagmar> Those two guys were just having a quiet lulz to themselves
17:18 <@SuMo_D> yeah, so why insert yourself there... ugh... and yeah as a PR professional she should know better
17:18 <@Dagmar> oddball's "beavis and butthead" assessment was dead on.  It was juvenile, but not particularly sexist or harassing
17:18 <@Dagmar> She inserted herself there because she had an agenda.
17:18 < aestetix_> SuMo_D: because twitter has made it seem ok to do public shaming
17:18 <@SuMo_D> Dagmar I actually said that
17:19 <@Dagmar> Well, I say she _did_ deserve firing
17:19 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... so dumb...
17:19 <@Dagmar> Particularly since she was quite fine with those two guys getting fired over what she made the incident into
17:19 < aestetix_> I think it's more important to say the *reason* she deserved firing.
17:20 <@Dagmar> If she was really that upset about it she should have called them out on the spot
17:20 < aestetix_> Because she was at the conference representing her company, and used a twitter account, which represents her company, to do something the company didn't approve of.
17:20 < aestetix_> She basically forced the company's hand.
17:21 <@SuMo_D> Right... I saw it as her personal account at first, but if she was acting as a PR person she has a responsibility to the brand and their image... that's kinda the job
17:21 < aestetix_> So that's where this gets interesting
17:21 <@Dagmar> Screw what her job was.  I think it's apropos because it's no less than she wanted for those two guys
17:21 < aestetix_> If you say what your job/company is in your twitter profile, can it be considered a personal account anymore?
17:22 <@Dagmar> Not really
17:22 < aestetix_> I still really wish twitter allowed protected tweets
17:23 <@SuMo_D> aestetix_ I actually have a hard time with that sometimes... cause I'm an artist/educator locally and people take my classes cause they respect or like me, or my brand SuMo (which is derived from my name) - so I have to be careful especially on public accounts what I post
17:23  * aestetix_ nods
17:23 <@SuMo_D> like Dallas made that really cool video about the history of Phreaknic
17:24 <@SuMo_D> which... included talking about some porn projected on a side of a building.... that could be seen from the airport
17:24 <@Dagmar> No comment.
17:24 <@SuMo_D> I thought it was awesome... and posted a few other things about PN but knew that would probably go a bit far for people following me locally
17:25 <@SuMo_D> gets really annoying sometimes
17:26 <@Dagmar> Ooh time to be a dick
17:27 <@SuMo_D> its timed now?
17:29 <@Dagmar> Shucks.
17:29 <@Dagmar> I kind of lambasted Gamevil for their Spirit Stones app because _it tries to grab superuser privs_
17:29 <@Dagmar> There are people on their forums claiming it's to check for rooted phones.
17:29 <@Dagmar> This is bullshit.
17:30 <@Dagmar> You can just _look_ for the damn binary if you want to know if su is present
17:33 <@oddball> SuMo_D: Yeah... I have the same issue being a gun nut.  I know people that have had the cops show up at their door and their places of work harrassed simply because it became known that they owned guns.
17:33 <@Dagmar> I got a mail that said they sent a response.  The response was boilerplate apology and a link to their support forum.
17:33 <@Dagmar> In exchange for that, I have now elaborated on my review.
17:34 <@oddball> Of course, I never understood the mentality of "gun owners are violent people by nature.  Let's poke them with sticks."
17:34 <@SuMo_D> oddball I feel you, its not like you want to hide it... but at the same time, you don't want to overdo it with certain people or your public personal that people may be in your community/life
17:35 <@SuMo_D> oddball yeah... that is odd lol
17:35 <@Dagmar> THEY WANT TO EAT ALL THE CAEK
17:36 <@oddball> heh... that actually reminds me of something I've been thinking about linking on my FB account, but haven't because 1. job hunt, and 2. not sure I want to stir up that drama there.
17:37 <@SuMo_D> like... I don't really care about porn... porn is porn... whatever... but I know there are people in my life, that is really disturbing... or family, have way too many random family members who friended me when I got cancer that would be like o_O - and it would just probably degenerate into drama of some degree
17:37 <@SuMo_D> exactly
17:37 <@Dagmar> o.O
17:37 <@oddball> http://imgur.com/gallery/RbMFdIr
17:37 < GateKeeper> Title: If Gun Rights were a Cake... - Imgur (at imgur.com)
17:38 <@Dagmar> WTF kinda porn are you looking at?!?
17:38 <@oddball> This explains nicely how many gun folks feel about "being reasonable."
17:38 <@Dagmar> ...or are these two things not related?
17:39 <@Dagmar> Acutally I'm just going to assume it's bad verbiage and that 'cancer' and 'porn' have nothing to do with each other in this context
17:39 <@SuMo_D> mmmmm cake
17:39 <@SuMo_D> Dagmar yes bad verbage
17:40 <@SuMo_D> just saying the idea of porn is very disturbing to some people I know
17:40 <@SuMo_D> and that I don't push it with them
17:40 <@Dagmar> Oh yes.  This is the bible belt.
17:40 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah.... I don't think SuMo_D is looking at "Cancer porn."  And if so, I don't even want to know what that is.
17:40 <@Dagmar> Nevermind that the strip clubs make bank when the Baptist and the Methodists are having their conventions
17:40 <@SuMo_D> Dagmar... I'm from Vegas
17:41 <@Dagmar> Still.
17:41 <@SuMo_D> and I used to work in church circles
17:41 <@SuMo_D> there was one megachurch I knew of that told the strippers it was fine as long as they tithed
17:41 <@Dagmar> Seems reasonable to me
17:41 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... I've also known people that didn't kiss until they were married
17:41 <@oddball> Dagmar: Joke I heard "in the bible belt:" best way to gaurd a 12 pack of beer: have two Baptists watch it.  Worst way: have one Baptist watch it.
17:41 <@SuMo_D> first kiss.. at the alter
17:42 <@Dagmar> oddball++
17:42 <@SuMo_D> after a "courtship" between their families basicly fundie arranged marriage...
17:42 <@Dagmar> euw
17:42 <@SuMo_D> oddball lol
17:42 < aestetix_> so is the church still super strong out there?
17:42 <@SuMo_D> eh... I think it was stronger in Las Vegas
17:42 < aestetix_> since here it seems like nobody under the age of 50 goes to church
17:43 <@oddball> Ok, time for me to head to TKD class.  Later all.
17:43 <@SuMo_D> here it seems, part of the fabric of the community, but people don't really get bothered about it all
17:43 <@SuMo_D> have fun oddball!
17:44 <@Dagmar> probably because they've gotten used to the idea that people occasionally have sex
17:44 < aestetix_> unless they are mormon
17:44 <@SuMo_D> scratch that... its pretty much assumed everyone is a baptist.... and if you aren't well... they just smile and say oh bless your heart, and talk to you like you're in the club anyway - that's pretty much my experience here
17:44 <@rattle> There's a video about the history of phreaknic?
17:44 <@SuMo_D> aestetix_ I haven't seen any Mormans here
17:44 <@SuMo_D> yeah rattle let me find it
17:44 <@SuMo_D> Dallas posted it like the day after we got home
17:46 <@SuMo_D> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGsQsY4zaQ8
17:46 < GateKeeper> Title: Interview with Drew Myers [JohnnyX] at Phreaknic 17 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:46 <@SuMo_D> ok it doesn't really say history... it just says Johnnyx interview
17:46 <@Dagmar> Oh wow this is recent
17:46 <@Dagmar> Let's linkbait this shit
17:46 <@SuMo_D> yeah... like the day after we got home this year
17:47 <@SuMo_D> Basicly so that we can get more people out from the Carolinas next year... cause we had 3-4 more people interested but they couldn't really understand the website or why they should pack up and go with us
17:48 <@rattle> Any video that includes a cardboard cutout of me as a bug is kind of disturbing.
17:49 <@Dagmar> Oh my... So THAT's where the mention of the video comes in
17:49 <@Dagmar> LOL
17:49 <@SuMo_D> yes
17:49 <@SuMo_D> lol
17:49 <@SuMo_D> rattle are you the guy who started it who doesn't show up?
17:50 <@Dagmar> heh
17:51 <@rattle> Something like that.
17:52 <@SuMo_D> When I showed up for registration I was like... ummm... why is there a dude on my badge?
17:52 <@rattle> JonnyX is the guy who started PhreakNIC.  I was simply a member of the inner cabal.
17:53 <@SuMo_D> Dallas also posted this one up with Magnet man... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzMt3PlU2h4
17:53 < GateKeeper> Title: Interview with Michael Snyder of Revolution Labs at Phreaknic 17 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:53 <@rattle> Yeah, imagine my reaction when I saw an image of the badge.
17:53 <@Dagmar> hehe
17:53 <@Dagmar> Wait until you see the condoms
17:53  * rattle facepalms.
17:53 <@Mirage> But I thought that Skydog created Phreaknic!  He said so himself! (lolz_
17:54 <@Dagmar> Mirage: This is why I just linked the video on my G+ feed
17:55 <@SuMo_D> Dagmar I saw the condoms lol - it was more the mekka bondage girl t-shirt I was like... really.....
17:56 <@SuMo_D> I was having a sensitive day... and feeling like oh man... overwhelmed by all the man vibes for a minute
17:56 <@SuMo_D> which... I think I told everyone pretty straight out at some point soon after - but yeah... whatever
17:56 <@Dagmar> I was just kidding about hte condoms
17:56 <@SuMo_D> at least I didn't tweet about it and get everyone fired :P
17:57 <@SuMo_D> I know I know
17:57 <@SuMo_D> ah missed rattle's "imagine my reaction"
17:58 <@SuMo_D> anyway - its good times and everyone's good peoples... looking forward to next year
17:58 <@SuMo_D> Just I want giant dicks on the the shirts this year... (jk... seriously.. don't do that)
18:08 <@SuMo_D> dicks
18:09  * SuMo_D wonders if she's going to get called out for creating a sexualized environment now... runs away
18:22 <@wilpig> I laughed at this way too hard.
18:22 <@wilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6DmHGYy_xk
18:22 < GateKeeper> Title: Miley Cyrus - Wrecking Ball (Chatroulette Version) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:29 <@SuMo_D> He looks really good in the underwear... but then they come off and its like... no
18:30 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... its nice to have a visual laugh track... that's kinda interesting
18:41 <@wilpig> when the rope broke/came untied  I lost my shit and was lol'ing
18:55 < aestetix_> http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1rir7v/news_anchor_pushed_too_far_screams_the_truth/
18:55 < GateKeeper> Title: News Anchor Pushed Too Far: Screams the Truth : videos (at www.reddit.com)
19:23 < aestetix_> http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/nov/25/young-adult-readers-prefer-printed-ebooks
19:23 < GateKeeper> Title: Young adult readers 'prefer printed to ebooks' | Books | theguardian.com (at www.theguardian.com)
19:26 < RangerZ> aestetix_: i watched that live with dylan ratigan
19:29 < aestetix_> live?
19:30 < RangerZ> when it aired a few years ago
19:30 < RangerZ> i remember it
19:32 < aestetix_> ahh
19:32 < RangerZ> he was fired ... i mean... left ... shortly after
19:32 < RangerZ> IIRC
19:39 < aestetix_> yes
19:39 < aestetix_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513362/Man-builds-homemade-gun-items-purchased-airport-terminal-AFTER-security.html
19:39 < GateKeeper> Title: Man builds homemade gun from items that can all be purchased in the airport terminal AFTER you go through security | Mail Online (at www.dailymail.co.uk)
19:43 < RangerZ> guess that means you have to be naked to fly now
19:43 <@brimstone> and have no money
19:43 <@Dagmar> Perhaps they'll just start drugging people and loading them into boxes
19:52 <@wilpig> oh man that sounds like a great way to travel
19:53 <@wilpig> sign me up!  the drugging and crating, not the naked terminal walking
19:53 < RangerZ> http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/11/26/1511238/why-scott-adams-wished-death-on-his-dad
19:53 < GateKeeper> Title: Why Scott Adams Wished Death On His Dad - Slashdot (at science.slashdot.org)
19:53 < RangerZ> completely agree
19:55 < aestetix_> man
19:55 <@wilpig> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/25/article-0-19A3430600000578-559_634x365.jpg
19:55 < aestetix_> I wish I'd invested more money in bitcoin a month ago
19:55 < aestetix_> the $5 I put in is now worth $11
19:55 <@wilpig> please tell me that straw is actually some form of tumblr marketing
19:56 <@wilpig> awww damn.  it's just a straw from starbucks
19:59 <@SuMo_D> well... if vampires ever invade the airport... Umbrella ribs... kinda like a stake
21:01 < RangerZ> aestetix_: did you hear about the IRS's proposed changes to super pacs?
21:01 < RangerZ> basically a RFC
21:10 <@oddball> RFC?
21:11 < RangerZ> request for comments
21:11 <@oddball> ah
21:52 < RangerZ> star citizen got the HUD designer from the iron man movies... to design their HUDs, so it will have 3D holograms, etc NotLarry now that you can think of maybe running it in the future... you can now be forced to upgrade ;)
22:07 < RangerZ> uhh ohh, i think i created a monster, NotLarry got my 2ns gaming PC, and now he's lost in gaming, lol
22:22 <@Dagmar> Oh you are shitting me
22:22 <@Dagmar> The Jarvis interface was pimp!
22:31 <@Dagmar> Some tool has already set up a tent outside the Best Buy
22:31 <@Dagmar> What... the... fuck...
22:33 <@Dagmar> Hopefully one of their Black Friday sales items will be a fucking life.
22:58 < RangerZ> Dagmar: let me find the link
22:59 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3lNjgb_KBE here is the one 65$ ship
22:59 < GateKeeper> Title: Star Citizen - Aegis Dynamics Avenger - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:59 < RangerZ> looks _really_ nice
23:00 < RangerZ> http://www.twitch.tv/roberts_space_ind_ch_1/b/483089794 guess you have to manually skip to 3:07:30
23:00 < GateKeeper> Title: Roberts_Space_Ind_Ch_1 - Star Citizen Livestream - Roberts Space Industries - Cloud Imperium Games - Twitch (at www.twitch.tv)
23:01 < RangerZ> sorry 60$
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23:10 < RangerZ> geeks.com/
23:10 < RangerZ> whoa... wtf happened to geeks.com
23:12 < RangerZ> http://slashdot.org/story/13/08/03/1638203/geekscom-online-shop-has-closed
23:12 < GateKeeper> Title: Geeks.com Online Shop Has Closed - Slashdot (at slashdot.org)
23:12 < RangerZ> apparently its shuttered
23:26 <@Dagmar> They started carrying too much cheap shit that was actually cheap _shit_
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