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00:24 <@oddball> Dagmar: As in why she declared him an enemy of the state?  That was explained in an earlier episode.
00:24 <@oddball> I believe it was the one that involved Shakespear.
00:25 <@Dagmar> He's had more than one queen after him
00:26 <@oddball> This is true.
00:26 <@oddball> Hell, I can think of three off the top of my head with the modern series.
00:27 <@oddball> and one that simply thanked him.
00:35 < RangerZ1> i need to get all the new seasons
00:35 < RangerZ1> i watched a season years ago, and liked it
00:35 < RangerZ1> but it always aired when i was busy with HW or some such BS
00:45 <@oddball> Well, do what most American fans have done for years... download it.
00:46 < RangerZ1> thats what I meant
00:47 < RangerZ1> but comcraps's 300GB a month gets eaten up by me streaming the news every night, that and the anime i subscribe to
00:47 < RangerZ1> or 200GB or w/e it is now
01:08 <@Dagmar> Somethign is very wrong there man
01:08 <@Dagmar> 250Gb a month is about 8Gb/night
01:37 < RangerZ1> yeah , but each anime ep is ~.5gb, and it get like 3~4 a night
01:37 < RangerZ1> (i watch as they come out in jpn
01:39 <@Dagmar> So there's a quarter of it
01:40 <@Dagmar> If Comcast is telling you you're getting more than halfway to quota, I'd set up MRTG
01:47 < RangerZ1> i'm just getting my router's 'warning' page
01:47 < RangerZ1> so 'ehh'
01:47 < RangerZ1> https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/76653/star-citizen-pc-ps4-and-consoles/p1
01:47 < GateKeeper> Title: Star Citizen, PC, PS4 and Consoles - RSI Community Forums (at forums.robertsspaceindustries.com)
01:56 <@SuMo_D> So this looks pretty awesome - and they have a breakout board that works with a raspi too http://ninjablocks.com/collections/ninja-blocks/products/ninja-blocks-kit
01:56 < GateKeeper> Title: Ninja Blocks Kit | Ninja Blocks (at ninjablocks.com)
01:58 <@SuMo_D> Oh and the "Ninja block" is a Beagle Bone Black with an Arduino that's awesome
02:00 < RangerZ1> umm... hold on
02:01 < RangerZ1> hmm nvm
02:01 < RangerZ1> i could of sworn that there was a beagleboard with a ra-pi interface
02:01 < RangerZ1> but i guess not
02:03 < RangerZ1> but nothing beat that motoX with arduino bolted onto the back
02:03 < RangerZ1> lol
02:08 <@SuMo_D> yes as you've said lol
02:08 <@SuMo_D> get them come here and donate stuff for us
02:10 < RangerZ1> they are working on project ara now
02:10 < RangerZ1> that 3d printed cell phone 'blox' hybrid thing now
02:12 <@SuMo_D> I saw that
02:12 < RangerZ1> if you get a beagleboard/black/etc
02:13 < RangerZ1> i know a dev who writes drivers for it , and now works at intel doing the same
02:13 < RangerZ1> let me know if you need help
02:14 <@SuMo_D> I know Greg has one, he's one of our main engineer guys
02:14 <@SuMo_D> *software engineer
02:15 <@SuMo_D> but yeah thanks I'll keep that in mind - I need all the help I can get....
02:18 < RangerZ1> i have no problem offering up other people's help
02:18 < RangerZ1> ;)
02:23 <@SuMo_D> ha - exactly
02:23 <@SuMo_D> just make sure those people don't end up hating you in the process
02:29 < RangerZ1> nah, thats his job
02:29 < RangerZ1> he'd probably get a bonus for helping a school or something
02:29 < RangerZ1> lol
02:32 < aestetix_> god I hate hippies
02:35 < aestetix_> I went to a meetup tonight about people trying to organize an anti-DAC action
02:35 < aestetix_> they spent over an hour discussing the subcommittees they wanted to create to do things, and tone-policing each other
02:36 < aestetix_> Oh and the best part was that they refused to have a point of contact for each subcommittee because it was too much structure
02:51 < RangerZ1> lulz
02:54 < aestetix_> oh and I forgot the part where they had a buffet of food set up for everyone
02:54 < aestetix_> including a bunch of bread that was rock hard
02:54 < RangerZ1> DAC?
02:54 < aestetix_> and other things that were obviously picked up out of the dumpster
02:54 < RangerZ1> the airbourne Cameras?
02:54 < aestetix_> domain awareness center, the oakland surveillance system
02:55 < RangerZ1> ahh
02:55 < RangerZ1> fuckers need to learn how to organize
02:55 < RangerZ1> anon type shit doesn't work in the real world
02:55 < aestetix_> I joined one of the mailing lists
02:55 < aestetix_> although somehow I sense it will have more self-congratulations than actual discussion about DAC
02:56 < aestetix_> RangerZ1: it doesn't even work on the internetz
02:56 < RangerZ1> yeah i know
02:56 < RangerZ1> mainly b/c the protocls for it suck
02:56 < aestetix_> I mean
02:57 < aestetix_> Ever since wikileaks made "digital activism" cool, all these idiots have been flooding in
02:57 < RangerZ1> hell, i bet many of them never even ran a college group
02:57 < RangerZ1> let alone anything else
02:58 < RangerZ1> but it really brings out the fact, that many people aren't actually natural leaders
03:09 <@SuMo_D> running things is hard... but keeping people engaged and motivated is even harder
03:09 <@SuMo_D> most people want quick fixes and are like darg... it doesn't work RIGHT NOW... and either get distracted or frustrated...
03:20 <@NotLarry> pulled over on the way home for doing 20 in a 40.
03:20 <@NotLarry> fml
03:21 <@Dagmar> What kind of retard reporters is the NYT hiring nowadays
03:21 < aestetix_> RangerZ1: yep
03:21 <@Dagmar> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/23/study-suggests-link-between-dread-pirate-roberts-and-satoshi-nakamoto/?_r=1&
03:21 < GateKeeper> Title: Log In - The New York Times (at bits.blogs.nytimes.com)
03:22 <@Dagmar> Like, the FBI nabs DPR's wallet.
03:22 <@Dagmar> Why the fuck are they even talking about "freezing" the assets
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09:00 <@Dagmar> BestBuy appears to be having a pretty steep discount on class 10 32Gb micro SDHC (Sandisk) cards for today.  $17.99
09:00 <@Dagmar> Cheap-ass alert!
09:02 <@Dagmar> Ah do b'leev I'll be pickin' up a few of those
09:14 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: in answer to the freezing, it's because if anybody external to DPR had the keys to the wallet, they effectively have control of the wallet
09:14 <@Dagmar> Yes, but they can just cash them the fuck in.
09:15 <@Dagmar> They'd also need a copy of the wallet itself
09:15 <@Dagmar> This is money you can accidentally _delete_
09:17 <@Corydon76-work> I don't think that's true. I think every machine that is part of the Bitcoin network has a copy of every single transaction and what protects  the transactions are merely the wallet keys
09:18 <@Corydon76-work> If that wasn't true, then losing a wallet in a crash and restoring from a backup would make previous transactions effectively disappear
09:19 <@Corydon76-work> The only way you'd "lose" that money is if you lost the keys from all locations, because that would make the wallet inaccessible
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09:20 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: BestBuy has 32Gb microSD cards for $18 today
09:20 < RangerZ> only today?
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09:21 <@Dagmar> It does say "Deal of the Day"
09:21 <@Dagmar> They're usually $25 when they're on sale, or the usual reidiculous price of about $40
09:22 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to decide if I want to buy three or five of them
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09:22 <@Corydon76-work> Why so many?
09:22 <@Dagmar> 1. THey're tiny as fuck
09:23 <@Dagmar> 2. I have at least four devices that can use them
09:23 <@Dagmar> Make that seven
09:23 <@Corydon76-work> Ah, you have multiple devices.
09:24 <@Dagmar> I have a *lot* of devices
09:24 <@Dagmar> Two netbooks and a laptop with SDcard slots... an mk808 stickputer, my phone, my tablet, my desktop machine...
09:24 <@Dagmar> My 3DS XL...
09:25 <@Corydon76-work> Anytime a place like that has what appears to be an amazing deal like that, I tend to look at the next step up, because the deal for that is likely also really good.  In this case, 64gb SDHC
09:25 <@Corydon76-work> It's how I have a 64gb USB stick now
09:26 <@Dagmar> Yeah which is not so spectacular at $43 each but it's within range of being a decent gift price
09:26 <@Corydon76-work> and those deals also usually portend the discontinuation of that device
09:27 <@Dagmar> I don't think microsdhc is going away any time soon
09:27 <@Corydon76-work> Not the form factor, but the size
09:27 <@Dagmar> I dont' even see that size going away soon
09:28 <@Dagmar> 32Gb has actually turned out to be pretty enormous for android devices
09:28 <@Dagmar> Unless you're into storing lots of videos on a tablet, it's quite a lot of spae
09:28 <@Dagmar> er space
09:31 < RangerZ> Dagmar: you know what 'day' we get paid this month?
09:31 < wilpig_> nevar!
09:32 < RangerZ> the holiday and 'day after thanksgiving' are/might mess with it
09:32 < wilpig_> I just saw a text message from my boss from friday that said not to come in today.  doh!  
09:32 < RangerZ> wilpig_: i hope you're at work
09:32 < wilpig_> nope
09:32 < RangerZ> ./s/at/not at
09:32 < wilpig_> I saw the message as I was about to talk out the door
09:33 < wilpig_> s/talk/walk
09:33 < RangerZ> well
09:33 < RangerZ> that means you wore pants for no reason today
09:33 <@Corydon76-work> Lucky you.  I have a continuing crisis, so I've been working all weekend
09:33 < wilpig_> this is true.
09:33 < wilpig_> I just started the laundry.  damn my mother too.
09:34 < wilpig_> I was at peace with the world til last night.
09:34 < RangerZ> Corydon76-work: 30$ for 64GB usb flash drive  on newegg
09:34 < RangerZ> deal of the day  today too
09:38 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah, I figured it was probably about time to start looking at 128GB flash drives
09:39 <@Corydon76-work> My Chapter 13 spidey sense is killing me right now
09:43 < RangerZ> http://www.dorkly.com/comic/56745/the-12-types-of-doctor-who-fans
09:43 < GateKeeper> Title: The 12 Types of Doctor Who Fans - Dorkly Comic (at www.dorkly.com)
10:05 < RangerZ> aestetix_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wutMdQYzgtA
10:05 < GateKeeper> Title: Drone User Club Takes To The Skies - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:24 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: In the past when that's been a conflict, they've just processed the data a day early.  I woudln't worry about it.  HR will send out an email if there's going to be any variation from the usual
10:25 < RangerZ> doesn't really matter, was just curious
10:35 <@Dagmar> Ah, I see the reason for the sale today.  They're calling it "Blue Sunday".  Silly Best Buy.
10:36 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-work: Keep in mind I also have that scooter with it's mp3 player strapped on.  It's considerably easier to swap an SDcard out than it is to screw around with selecting playlists
10:54 < eryc> you get that 64gb sd card?
10:55 <@Dagmar> Thinking about it
10:55 <@Dagmar> It would make a nice TrueCrypt filestore
10:55 < eryc> i'm looking at the 32gb flash drive for $10 at staples
10:56 <@Dagmar> I've gotten to the point with these things that unless they include hard numbers of some kind on read/write rates, I ignore them
10:56 <@Dagmar> ...I had enough of the sandisk u3 drives being SLOW AS BALLS
10:56 <@Dagmar> ...which was all due to asking that tiny little chip to emulate a USB hub
10:57 <@Dagmar> Strip U3 off the things and they run nice and fast
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13:25 < Th3Fr1ng3> Hey yall. How's it going?
13:26 <@SuMo_D> Its going
13:26 <@SuMo_D> how are you Th3Fr1ng3
13:27 < Th3Fr1ng3> I'm good. Just tried to clean my gutters but the leaves were froze together lol
13:31 < eryc> http://i.imgur.com/yWRgEXf.gif
13:38 < aestetix_> poop
13:49 < RangerZ> saddest part is, she would be attractive if she stopped being... the way she is acting...
13:49 < RangerZ> lol
13:49 < wilpig_> money fixes everything.  i'd still do her
13:50 <@NotLarry> You would do the chicken with her head on it...
13:52 < RangerZ> NotLarry: not like it even needs her head on it, for wilpig_ to do it
13:53 <@NotLarry> ikr
15:22 < wilpig_> I should head out and do somethign today
16:05 <@SuMo_D> you should
16:05 <@SuMo_D> do eeeeeeeeeeeeet
16:30 < wilpig_> alright.  well shoes are on and pants so i'm off to gamestop to get somethign for my nephews then off to eat.
16:54 <@NotLarry> Anyone know anyone looking for a digital drum kit?  I brought mine in to work cause someone wanted to buy it seems they don't want to buy a drum kit right now:)
17:02 <@SuMo_D> how much? Could you ship it?
17:02 <@SuMo_D> is it a full kit you're talking about?
17:07 <@SuMo_D> You could try craigslisting it - I mean you do live in Music city right?
17:07 <@NotLarry> I did craigslist it, that is why it is here:)
17:09 <@NotLarry> Not really wanting to even drive it home, shipping it would be out of the question.
17:10 <@NotLarry> I'm lazy like that
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18:20 < aestetix_> Why do hippies eat food out of the dumpster and then wonder why they get sick
18:26 < spaceB0x> Because it's cheaper than WholeFoods?
18:27 <@Dagmar> oh!  I know!
18:27 <@Dagmar> Because someone didn't care enough to spay and neuter their parents.
18:31 < aestetix_> hahaha
18:35 < spaceB0x> lol
18:47 <@SuMo_D> yeah I mean... I get it if its packaged
18:47 <@SuMo_D> the oh look I found this half a sandwich! Want to share...
18:47 <@SuMo_D> ummm
18:48 <@SuMo_D> aestetix_ are there a lot of freegans in the bay area? (I'm guessing yes)
18:48 <@Dagmar> It's because without extreme weather conditions, they have no natural predators and their numbers perpetually increase
18:55 < aestetix_> yes
18:55 <@SuMo_D> Dagmar is it that, or are you just being lazy and not unleashing your true evil on them
19:27 < aestetix_> mman
19:27 < aestetix_> I don't know what I hate more
19:27 < aestetix_> fauxminists or the holidays
19:27 < aestetix_> Albeit the holidays make all the fauxminists go home
19:28 < aestetix_> http://occamstypewriter.org/sylviamclain/2013/11/24/uk-university-debates-when-gender-segregation-ok/
19:30 < aestetix_> (I doubt anyone is stupid enough to actually create a policy like what they are hinting at)
19:35 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: It's too far to drive for a hunting expedition
19:35 < aestetix_> I just spent a good 10 minutes trying to figure out what the hell that policy actually is
19:35 <@SuMo_D> Dagmar, I'm sure they are in Nashville too
19:36 < aestetix_> It looks like someone took a situation, sensationalized it, and now it's flooding all over the place
19:36 <@Dagmar> Not very many.  The main reason being it's presently 31F.
19:36 <@Dagmar> We are just getting started on a long, hard winter
19:38 < aestetix_> Yeah, it looks like there was an Islamic speaker or something who suggested the segregation of an audience to accord with Islamic law. At least, that's my read.
19:39 <@SuMo_D> yeah aestetix, its not clear what she's on about... something about some lectures women are asked to leave?
19:39 < aestetix_> And the university accomodated it so they could get the perspective. And now someone picked up the story and is comparing it to slavery
19:39 < aestetix_> That's the best I can make of it.
19:40 <@SuMo_D> Also Dagmar, the biggest group of freegans I know are in NYC and there are a ton in Detroit too... harder winters in both places than Nashville... but yeah maybe you have just repelled them by your presence
19:41 < aestetix_> I'm finding that the common trend between freegan anarchists and fauxminists is an uncompromising view that they consider their view correct and anything opposing it not only wrong, but oppression.
19:41 <@SuMo_D> ah  yeah I see that now
19:42 < aestetix_> That said, that drinking fountain photo might come in handy for a nymrights talk ;)
19:42 <@Dagmar> That's because the common cast for both those groups is that they aren't really adherents.  They're just assholes who like to say they are.
19:42 <@Dagmar> s/cast/case/;
19:43 < aestetix_> Well
19:43 <@SuMo_D> dude... its cultural...  I mean... it comes down to power and dominace who gets to be the dominate culture... which... yeah is difficult and messy - personally I think if you INVITE the speaker, either they state the terms up front and the speaker can accept or decline, or you make it known that this was to resepct them...
19:43 < aestetix_> What I do know is that when you individuate them, their defense falls apart.
19:43 <@SuMo_D> and yes... that is a common thread
19:43 <@Dagmar> That's because they're just assholes who like to _claim_ they're feminist or anarchist.
19:43 < aestetix_> SuMo_D: sure, absolutely
19:44 <@SuMo_D> I had a friend... music promoter in NYC
19:44 <@Dagmar> They want to be dicks... they justify their behaviour by claiming their dogma made them do it.
19:44 <@SuMo_D> worked with the bigest group of freegans up there... they used to also go under the name wetlands conservation or something like that
19:45 < aestetix_> Well, it's like the group of rowdy anarchists who shout really loudly, but when its their turn to speak to city council, their harsh words turn into an unprocesses "uh ya know um" and worthless blabber
19:46 <@SuMo_D> he helped them organize a fundraiser, with bands and whatnot then when it came time for everyone to get paid it was like... you are all all part of the evil! and refused to pay
19:46 < aestetix_> heh
19:46 <@SuMo_D> My first dealings with them, I was looking for a place to live...
19:46 < aestetix_> well I mean, a barter thing works, but only if you negotiate ahead of time
19:47 <@SuMo_D> and went by this warehouse they were all in... I donno if they own it or what
19:47 < aestetix_> "sure, I'll paint a portrait in exchange for a massage"
19:47 < aestetix_> as opposed to "so I can't actually afford to pay for that portrait, can I give you a massage instead?"
19:47 <@SuMo_D> but yeah they were asking for 800$ for 300sq ft.... and I was like... errr... I thought you guys weren't about the money, it was about the community... also would be sharing with 2 other people
19:48 <@SuMo_D> aestetix_ agreed
19:48 < aestetix_> you know
19:48  * wilpig_ starts checking backpage.com for massages
19:48 < aestetix_> as much as I want to recommend atlas shrugged to those kids
19:48 <@Dagmar> hehe
19:48 < wilpig_> I can totally paint some bad portraits
19:48 < aestetix_> it would just turn them all into assholes
19:48 <@Dagmar> aestetix: They're not smart enough to comprehend it
19:48 <@SuMo_D> yes...
19:48 <@SuMo_D> it would
19:49 < aestetix_> but I mean, that book did make me rethink views on money
19:49 <@Dagmar> The people in Atlas Shrugged who are _getting things done_ don't really exist nowadays
19:49 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... I mean they do some cool things, like the really really free market and the free bike builds/repair... but yeah... freegans.......
19:50 <@Dagmar> The people of today getting things done at that level are all about the money and the power--not getting things done.
19:50 < aestetix_> wow I am totally sounding "get off my lawn" huh
19:50 <@SuMo_D> lol yep
19:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah, that sort of worries me when I'm hearing it coming out of my mouth.
19:50 <@SuMo_D> aestetix_ you're getting old
19:50 <@SuMo_D> :P
19:51 < aestetix_> I prefer "wise" :p
19:51 <@Dagmar> Get yourself a copy of GTAV, go online, and get it out of your system.
19:51 <@NotLarry> I prefer "vagina"
19:51 <@Dagmar> There's plenty of small children you can murder playing on the weekends.
19:51 <@SuMo_D> lol
19:51 <@SuMo_D> gah... this whole conversation is making me think of my ex too much...
19:51 <@NotLarry> and frankly, I typed that in an im to an email admin and almost hit enter before I realized I was not typing in irc...
19:52 <@Dagmar> They have no buisness playing GTAV, and their squeaky little cries of "WHERE MY BITCH NIGGAS AT?" drive me into a proper killing frenzy every time.
19:52 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: HAHAHHA
19:52 <@SuMo_D> he was really into Rand and then never did shit but play video games and be angry about.... pretty much everything
19:52 <@Dagmar> That particular phrase, about half of them would reapond with "Well... Um...  Good for you."
19:53 <@NotLarry> Someone wake up RangerZ.
19:53 < RangerZ> no
19:53 < RangerZ> he's sleeping right now
19:53 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: Oh there's plenty of things to be angry about.  People have to be specific or they're mainly wasting their time.
19:53 < aestetix_> Dagmar: yep!
19:53 <@Dagmar> I keep telling kids that are depressed about the state of the world that they're not broken.
19:53 < aestetix_> One of my "before I die" things I want to do is hellp fix the water problem
19:54 <@Dagmar> The world is really that fucked up.
19:54 <@Dagmar> That they can *see it* actually puts them ahead of the game.
19:54 <@Dagmar> Hopefully none of them will be found with a collection of fingers in decade or two.
19:54 <@NotLarry> My response to the email guy was "I don't know, it is that magic internet email thing you do. Fix it please."
19:55 < aestetix_> heh
19:55 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: Monday will be so much fun
19:55 <@SuMo_D> Dagmar I agree its really that fucked up... but yeah he was a vet... had PTSD issues, escaped into conspiracy theories and video games... pretty much the only thing he cared about was going to the gym so that's one thing but yeah... that was the one thing...
19:55 <@SuMo_D> the rest was just excuses... cause... yeah he couldn't deal with life... but yeah... I hope he's better wherever he's at now
19:56 <@NotLarry> I was raised by a single mother who was born in 1919.  I got your PTSD "right here."
19:56 <@SuMo_D> yep
19:56 <@SuMo_D> I bet
19:57 <@NotLarry> The words "this is going to hurt me more than it is going to hurt you" meant I was gonna get a beating that would prbably throw her shoulder out again...
19:57 < aestetix_> NotLarry: I'm gonna guess she doesn't take shit from anyone
20:07 <@SuMo_D> On a different note... Ninja blocks are going to send us some kits for the kids program Wooo freakin' hoo!
20:07 <@SuMo_D> see... that's how you get free stuff... do awesome shit and find supporters...
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20:20 <@SuMo_D> http://ninjablocks.com/products/ninja-blocks-kit
20:20 < GateKeeper> Title: Ninja Blocks Kit | Ninja Blocks (at ninjablocks.com)
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20:22 <@NotLarry> wtf? - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=613866385343956&set=ms.613866885343906.613866385343956.bps.a.105228686207731.7968.100001617995853&type=1&theater
20:22 < GateKeeper> Title: Content Not Found (at www.facebook.com)
20:22 <@NotLarry> oh, that was longer than I ment
20:22 <@NotLarry> -sp
20:23 <@NotLarry> http://5z8.info/open.exe_sqld
20:37 < Th3Fr1ng3> ninjablocks looks pretty cool
20:39 <@SuMo_D> I thought so Th3Fring3
20:39 <@SuMo_D> Also looks like something I could learn pretty easily... the other teacher was going to some sensor programing with Java... which... I don't know at all
20:40 <@SuMo_D> (one of our teachers had to leave the program recently because of family stuff)
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21:03 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: oh it is about to be a clusterfuck
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21:30 <@Dagmar> what is?
21:45 <@Dagmar> Someone explain to me why all the not-X10 stuff that fills that space is _expensive as fuck_
21:47 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, this stuff isn't
21:48 <@Dagmar> I was looking around the other night and saying "Holy shit, $50 for a remote power switch?"
21:48 <@Dagmar> ...because WeMo is hella overpriced
21:49 <@SuMo_D> yeah I thought the ninja blocks are pretty well priced for what they are
21:49 <@SuMo_D> it is their first run though
21:49 <@Dagmar> Well, $40 for _three_ units isn't great, but it's more like what such things should code
21:50 <@Dagmar> s/code/cost/
21:50 <@SuMo_D> yeah - I think with the simple API its worth it
21:50 <@SuMo_D> yes you can do it cheaper... but takes longer to get working if you're a noob
21:51 <@SuMo_D> I think it'll be good for the younger kids too, it seems simple enough so they can participate too
21:51 <@Dagmar> No, I consider $40 for three units to be reasonable and doable
21:51 <@SuMo_D> I got that
21:52 <@Dagmar> The WeMo people are just insane
21:52 <@Dagmar> They're just waiting for X10 to hire someone to make a non-suck package for the software end of things
21:52 <@Dagmar> ...and X10 will eat them alive
21:52 <@SuMo_D> lol
21:52 <@SuMo_D> yes
21:53 <@Dagmar> For what WeMo charges you can buy X10 _outlets_ thet just go in the damn wall
21:55 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, that's actually fucking *cheaper* than WeMo
21:55 <@Dagmar> http://www.smarthome.com/2040/X10-SR227-or-PA011-X10-Split-Receptacle/p.aspx
21:55 < GateKeeper> Title: X10 SR227 or PA011 X10 Split Receptacle - Smarthome (at www.smarthome.com)
21:58 <@Dagmar> So I wound up buying 4 32Gb micro SDHC cards and 1 64Gb one for my brother as a belated birthday present
22:01 <@Dagmar> Wait... what...
22:01 < RangerZ> http://slashdot.org/story/13/11/24/2352232/cmu-ai-learning-common-sense-by-watching-the-internet
22:01 <@Dagmar> Since when did color controllable light bulbs come out of the OMGPRICEY range
22:01 < GateKeeper> Title: CMU AI Learning Common Sense By Watching the Internet - Slashdot (at slashdot.org)
22:01 < RangerZ> of what NOT to do
22:02 <@Dagmar> RagnerZ: LOL
22:02 <@Dagmar> IBM has some people probably rolling on the floor right now
22:02 <@Dagmar> They had to roll back Watson at one point after doing that
22:04 <@Dagmar> I'm going to say it like this
22:04 <@Dagmar> What if you applied for a government grant, on the basis of your experiemnt would be to raise a child from birth, showing them only videos from YouTube
22:05 < RangerZ> dagmar you read that RFP ?
22:05 < RangerZ> NHS only put it up 2 weeks ago
22:06 <@Dagmar> I don't think they're going to like what they're going to get
22:06 <@Dagmar> If they're LUCKY, they'll get something as coherent as the AI that runs the Illuminatti in The Secret World
22:07 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: It's mentioned in teh news article
22:07 < RangerZ> ohh shit, i was making up the NHS part
22:07 < RangerZ> lol
22:07 <@Dagmar> I feel like I should call up Bucy (a CMU alum) and tell him he needs to warn them
22:07 < RangerZ> i just opened the /. page and read that snippet
22:07 <@Dagmar> "Gupta is pleased with the initial progress. In the future, NEIL will analyze vast numbers of YouTube videos to look for connections between objects."
22:08 <@Dagmar> Someone should have the guys from IBM talk to him about what happened when Watson read Reddit
22:08 < RangerZ> so IBM just held a watson contenst
22:08 <@Dagmar> You have to be picky about what you feed an AI
22:08 < RangerZ> contest* and a vandy grad student got 1st
22:08 <@Dagmar> Coool
22:08 < RangerZ> it was a blind AI machine learning test
22:08 <@Dagmar> Maybe our problem is that we're letting people without children do this
22:09 <@Dagmar> Parents know kids will pick up almost everything, but especially the things you don't want them to pick up on.
22:09 <@Dagmar> So SURE, let's expose AI's to interner bullshit.  What could possibly go wrong?
22:09 < RangerZ> skynet
22:09 < RangerZ> i mean....
22:10 <@Dagmar> You should check out The Secret World.
22:10 <@Dagmar> It's a MMO about conspiracy organizations.
22:10 < RangerZ> i signed up for the beta, but i never played
22:10 <@Dagmar> The Illuminatti are run by an Ai, but none of the humans in the organization appear to know
22:10 < RangerZ> lol
22:10 <@Dagmar> It's been soaking up Internets
22:11 <@Dagmar> Armin Shimmerman does the voice
22:11 <@Dagmar> It's hilarious to hear him deadpan lolcat
22:12 <@Dagmar> I wonder if they took the blowjob out
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22:18 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I just got notification that they did the paycheck thing already
22:18 < RangerZ> yeah i got that email too
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22:25 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_dxmzkwCXU
22:25 < GateKeeper> Title: Ubisoft On PC Gaming - PC Is Key Next Gen Platform - "Our Games Run At 4K On PC" - Thoughts - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:26 < aestetix_> Wow, I learned a new word today
22:26 < aestetix_> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frape
22:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Urban Dictionary: frape (at www.urbandictionary.com)
22:26 < RangerZ> i might need a 4k monitor/card for watchdogs
22:26 < RangerZ> aestetix_: better than i figured what it was "fake rape"
22:26 < RangerZ> i figured some neocon made it up, like rush, etc
22:29 <@Dagmar> *pant* *pant* *pant8
22:31 <@Dagmar> Turns out a six foot bookcase is a litlte heavy
22:31 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Find what's wrong with this page http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/frape
22:31 < GateKeeper> Title: frape - Wiktionary (at en.wiktionary.org)
22:32 < RangerZ> link to "frap (third-person singular simple present fraps, present participle frapping, simple past and past participle frapped)"
22:32 < RangerZ> was pretty amusing
22:32 < RangerZ> 2) frapist
22:32 < RangerZ> 3) french rapper
22:32 < RangerZ> lots of lulz on that page
22:33 <@Dagmar> You've overlooked the most hilarious part.
22:33 <@Dagmar> "Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913 edition of Webster.s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and hence in the public domain. The imported definitions may be significantly out of date, and any more recent senses may be completely missing."
22:33 < RangerZ> nice
22:33 <@Dagmar> 1913...
22:33 <@Dagmar> I thought they only had LiveJournal back then
22:33 < RangerZ> i'm surprised its out of copyright
22:34 < RangerZ> << not entirely kidding
22:34 < RangerZ> steamboat wily is coming out of copyright in a year or so
22:34 < RangerZ> so copyright law will HAVE to be changed
22:34 < aestetix_> Hmm.
22:34 <@Dagmar> No, you have a point.  The difference is that while dictonary publisher may be curmudgeons, _they have some dignity and reason left_
22:34 < RangerZ> why do you think the USA is doing TTIP and T_____whatever the fuck it is
22:35 < aestetix_> You know, it's funny how I read these in-depth history books, and see how smart politicians handle conflict.
22:35 < aestetix_> And then I go to the internet.
22:35 < aestetix_> and facepalm
22:35 <@Dagmar> lol
22:35 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: Is it any wonder I have no respect for "authority"
22:35 <@Dagmar> I paid attention during my history classes
22:35 < aestetix_> Heh indeed.
22:36 < aestetix_> I've been spending time lately trying to figure out when we all turned into idiots.
22:36 <@Dagmar> If we had Andrew Jackson around in this day and age, he'd be declared a terrorist
22:36 < aestetix_> And by "we" I mean the politicians.
22:36 < aestetix_> Yep
22:36 <@Dagmar> aestetix: The decline began the moment they made honor duels illegal
22:36 < aestetix_> Heh.
22:37 < aestetix_> When was that? I assume it was at least after Hamilton/Durr
22:37 < aestetix_> Burr*
22:37 <@Dagmar> Most of those Republicans would *not* talk the kind of shit they talk, if they thought it might mean someone might challenge them to a fair fight with handguns at the ass crack of dawn
22:37 < aestetix_> Screw handguns
22:37 <@Dagmar> THere would be a lot less bullshit
22:37 < aestetix_> I wanna see swordfighting
22:38 <@Dagmar> You have a point there.
22:38 <@Dagmar> We could subsidize a lot of public assistance programs with commercials aired before and after we broadcast the new "dispute resolution procedures"
22:38 < aestetix_> haha
22:38 <@Dagmar> Want to filibuster?  You're going to be needing some Gatorade.
22:39 < aestetix_> You know
22:39 < aestetix_> I'd consider putting in the effort to get to elected office
22:39 < aestetix_> JUST to challenge someone to a duel
22:39 <@Dagmar> A lot of people would.
22:39 < aestetix_> And when they shy away, bring a huge media blitz on about it
22:39 <@SuMo_D> swords!
22:39 <@Dagmar> I could effect some dramatic changes for the better
22:39 <@SuMo_D> There can be only one!
22:40 < aestetix_> I mean sure I might die at the sword
22:40 < aestetix_> But at least I die with honor.
22:40 <@Dagmar> Have you seen our elected officials?
22:40 < aestetix_> Yes, they are fat idiots, it's hard not to see them.
22:40 <@Dagmar> I would put money on practically any of our se2600 guys over those fat fucks
22:41 < aestetix_> I would love a duel.
22:41 < aestetix_> I'm currently sandwiched between idiot politicians and passive aggressive anarchists
22:41 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Luckily, by the usual rules, if you were going to die, you'd have to get yer neck lopped off or pierced through the heart
22:41 <@Dagmar> Everything else modern science can fix
22:41 < aestetix_> heh
22:41 <@Dagmar> UNFORTUNATELY, one of my friends ran his housemate through with a katana last week
22:42 < aestetix_> http://boingboing.net/2013/11/24/man-convicted-of-urinating-on.html
22:42 < GateKeeper> Title: Man convicted of urinating on hotel carpet while shouting racist abuse, while masturbating with a fire-extinguisher hose up his ass - Boing Boing (at boingboing.net)
22:42 <@Dagmar> They were having an argument about money, and he pulled the thing out to menace his housemate with it, and SOMEONE apparently didn't get the memo about not trying to go to close quarters on a guy with a katana when you're unarmed and high.
22:43 <@Dagmar> Three hours in Vandy and he was back out the door
22:43 <@Dagmar> Chad _drove him there_
22:43 <@SuMo_D> wow... that's horrible
22:43 <@SuMo_D> BUT HILARIOUS
22:44 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: THis is why I say we should encourage the kids of the day to JUST SMOKE SOME POT
22:45 <@Dagmar> ...because pot might make you think it's a good idea to eat an entire cake while you're sitting in the bushes, it doesn't give you any of the ideas these other crazy potpourri amokers are getting up to
22:45 <@SuMo_D> something like that :)
22:45 <@SuMo_D> yeah the potpourri shit is crazy
22:45 <@Dagmar> Hell, not even LSD makes people do this kind of shit
22:45 <@SuMo_D> exactly
22:45 < aestetix_> All I can say is
22:45 < aestetix_> Why the fire extinguisher?
22:46 <@Dagmar> Well... um... heh.  Probably because it fit.
22:51 <@Dagmar> Hehe http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/24/three-bear-cubs-compete-in-cutest-dance-off-ever-4199534/
22:51 <@Dagmar> THat entire page reeks of "only the British"
22:59 <@SuMo_D> Oh noes https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/11/beastie-boys-goldieblox-fair-use-lawsuit
22:59 < GateKeeper> Title: Girls Against Boys: Whats Wrong With the (Latest) Beastie Boys Lawsuit | Electronic Frontier Foundation (at www.eff.org)
22:59 <@SuMo_D> dem trolls be trollin'
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23:56 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: where are you going?
23:56 <@NotLarry> IT wise?
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