--- Log opened Thu Nov 21 00:00:29 2013
00:07 <@SuMo_D> Did you guys see this? http://tangible.media.mit.edu/project/inform/
00:07 < GateKeeper> Title: Tangible Media Group (at tangible.media.mit.edu)
00:07 < aestetix_> oh right
00:07 < aestetix_> SuMo_D: I'll look into that in a bit ;)
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07:16 <@Shadow404> hoes
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07:34 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:39 <@Shadow404> waz up slacker, guess who showed up at the parking deck this morning?
07:43 < wilpig_> your dealer?
07:43 < wilpig_> you really shouldn't hav your dealer come to work.  I mean it's okay if he's meeting someone else and you can deny but if he was just meeting you that's not good
07:44 < wilpig_> fuckin' mcdonalds.  that's what I get for stopping there.
07:44 < wilpig_> I ordered a steak egg and cheese bagel and got bacon.  damnit.  that thing actually looked good
07:45 <@Shadow404> wilpig_: are you having trouble logging into tapped out
07:45 <@Shadow404> i periodically since last update get timeouts until later in the day
07:46 <@Dolemite> I had my 2 x BEC biscuits for $3 this morning, already.  *burp*
07:46 <@Shadow404> cant login most mornings, even via diferrent connections
07:47 <@Shadow404> wilpig_: on the parking deck thing....a detective came by and i talked with him before and showed him the cars in question, about 6 of them we identified with out tags or plates for handicap parking and it was only 6:59 when we finished searching each floor, he said i should go ahead and head up to work cause he doesnt want me to get involved with security once he questions them about it
07:48 <@Shadow404> so apparently ill get another call form him later today with the prelimanary next steps he is gonna take as he was very unhappy the spots were being mis-used
07:52 <@Shadow404> i dont anything will happen right away, but it was nice for them to send somoene so quickly and i was quite surprised
07:55 < wilpig_> I woke up late this morning and last night I passed out pretty much right when i got home.  so I don't know
07:56 < wilpig_> oh shit.  it'll be tomorrow morning really.  cause i'm headed into the city tonight
07:57 < wilpig_> back in a few.  gotta go check on a machine that isn't responding via iDRAC/ipmi
08:22 < wilpig_> holy fucking shit...
08:22 < wilpig_> ticket from network engineer to me.  "I need ping and traceroutes to your dns servers"
08:22 < wilpig_> okay...
08:22 < wilpig_> tumblr-MacBookAir-0cb07a:Downloads wilbur$ traceroute 172.16.122.10
08:22 < wilpig_> traceroute to 172.16.122.10 (172.16.122.10), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1  192.168.150.1 (192.168.150.1)  1.187 ms  0.901 ms  0.803 ms 2  66.6.34.8 (66.6.34.8)  2.623 ms  5.065 ms  2.110 ms 3  aaa-8c7213cf.ewr01.tumblr.net (172.16.122.10)  1.082 ms  1.073 ms  0.989 ms
08:22 < wilpig_> new ticket from network engineer.  "I need pings as well"
08:22 <@Shadow404> wow, hes smart
08:23  * wilpig_ heads to amazon to buy a flame thrower
08:23 < wilpig_> I don't tolerate stupidity...
08:23 <@Shadow404> so about 1ms average
08:24 <@Shadow404> er, thats hard to read in a terminal, nm
08:24 < wilpig_> I just sent him a nice reply outside of the ticket system that should avoid him some embarassment that said "the pings were included"
08:25 < wilpig_> half tempted to send him a ping to localhost
08:27 <@Shadow404> hehe, hes smart
08:34 < wilpig_> I just have to wonder sometimes
08:43 < wilpig_> http://www.buzzfeed.com/greggdd69/17-horses-that-look-like-miley-cyrus-5v0w
08:43 < GateKeeper> Title: 16 Horses That Look Like Miley Cyrus (at www.buzzfeed.com)
08:50 <@Shadow404> lawl
08:58 < wilpig_> he's asking for a ping still..
08:58 <@Shadow404> is this guy from dell?
08:59 <@Shadow404> hehe, send him an ipv6 ping just to fuck with him
09:03 < wilpig_> no
09:03 <@Dolemite> Send him this instead -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr0JaXfKj68
09:03 < GateKeeper> Title: "One Ping Only" - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
09:03 < wilpig_> hehe
09:08 <@Shadow404> lawl
09:30 < wilpig_> okay people riddle me this.  You have a dell with a raid controller and 10 hotswap bays.  you are not using a large hardware raid volume instead you have setup each disk as a raid0 to itself and then are doing software raid with mdadm.   Why?
09:32 < wilpig_> Mirage, Dagmar, rattle? ^
09:33 <@Shadow404> cause dell
09:33 < wilpig_> My guess is that by doing it like that they can utilize the hotswap ability of the raid controller without using it as a raid controller
09:56 <@Corydon76-work> http://www.zappos.com/shit-product (SFW)
09:58 < wilpig_> lol
10:03 <@Shadow404> lawl, how did they get away with this?
10:05 <@Dolemite> Nothing like spending the entire morning configuring automatic transfer switches for the network
10:05 <@Dolemite> So the people who had my job before me did buy intelligent power strips and ATS's...
10:05 <@Dolemite> but didn't cable up or configure a damn one of them
10:07 <@Dolemite> I knocked out the power strips a long time ago, but never bothered with the ATS's until now....   because at the last outage I found 3 different ones where the feeder cables had been disconnected or had come loose
10:10 <@Shadow404> those asshats
10:11 <@Shadow404> i think you should write an LJ entry about how that makes you feel
10:51 <@Dagmar> lol
10:52 <@Dagmar> Oh look.  Farm fresh idiots.
10:53  * wilpig_ looks
10:53 <@Dagmar> Some jackass in #minecraft running his mouth just used the word "scroogled"
10:53 <@Dagmar> Microsoft's little mud-slinging campaign
10:58 <@Dolemite> Oh, sweet.  Apparently Knoxville has an active locomotive factory.  That would make for an awesome cub scout factory tour.
10:58 < wilpig_> the motion sensative light in here just shut off.  it thinks i'm dead
10:58 <@Dagmar> No, it thinks you
10:58 <@Dagmar> 're not doing anything worth watching.
10:58 < wilpig_> Dolemite: or you could just take them to the strip club. they'd learn more that way
10:58 <@Dolemite> wilpig_: Yet another reason to masturbate at your desk - the constant motion would keep the lights on
10:58 < wilpig_> Dagmar: too true.
11:00 < wilpig_> I was gonna point to http://steamcommunity.com/id/wilpig/ and see what I am doing but apparently I am offline.  I should save this so the achievements can update.  heh
11:00 < GateKeeper> Title: Steam Community :: wilpig (at steamcommunity.com)
11:02 <@Dagmar> Only four more days of this festival of idiocy
11:05 <@Dagmar> Dear god http://blog.marry-plan.com/2013/11/Visit-2.html
11:05 < GateKeeper> Title: 婚禮現場Craig 媲美電玩展的魔獸婚禮 (at blog.marry-plan.com)
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11:15 < wilpig_> ugh.
11:16 <@Shadow404> what's this newb saying now wilpig_?
11:18 <@Dagmar> lol
11:18 <@Dagmar> I'm hearing them talking about taking their storage back from storage and managing it themselves
11:18 <@Dagmar> Like htat will solve the problem of ignorant asshats listening to everyone telling them they're doing it wrong
11:20 < frsilent> shit I wish would stop being committed to master: 61,472 lines of a sql dump
11:21 < frsilent> I feel like this is shit I shouldn't have to deal with coming from my boss as a junior developer
11:24 <@Dagmar> You shoudl try working here.
11:24 < frsilent> no thank you
11:27 < frsilent> you're at Vandy right?
11:29 <@Corydon76-work> Heh, rattle should resurrect tlorah.net and make it a blog on Vandy culture
11:30 <@Dagmar> Hell I nearly jumped down Johnson's throat yesterday
11:30 <@Dagmar> I asked if I'd missed anything important at the 9am meeting, and he laughed about me never showing up for them anywya
11:30 < frsilent> anyone looking for work in statesboro/savannah (Django, ~70k)?
11:30 <@Dagmar> I was thinking "Perhaps if you'd ever let me know about hte fucking things"
11:34 < wilpig_> korn coming to bridgestone
11:39 <@Dolemite> Dagmar : So next week is your last at Vanderbilt?  Or did you get the transfer to EAI?
11:39 <@Dagmar> I got the transfer
11:39 <@Dagmar> because FUCK these idiots
11:39 <@Dolemite> Excellent.  Congratulations on escaping the den of fuckery.
11:40 <@Dagmar> The delay management procedures have just become ridiculous
11:40 <@Dagmar> Some shit that was mentioned in meetings this last week made it obvious that other departments weren't being told that "everything is a change"
11:40 <@Dagmar> So fuck Hogan
11:41 <@Dolemite> Hogan should have been canned years ago.  The SDMs that he used to work with hate him.
11:41 <@Dagmar> I've got a change to Listserv for next week, and if those idiots move it to after business hours again, I will refuse to do it.
11:41 <@rattle> Corydon76-work: I got ownership back of tlorah.net several years ago.
11:41 <@Dagmar> I'm will flat out reschedule the thing for later and let someone else do it.
11:41 <@Dagmar> Because fuck them
11:42 < wilpig_> now that you people are awake.  what say you to my raid question from earlier?
11:42 <@Corydon76-work> rattle: ah, it's not obvious from the whois
11:42 <@Dolemite> Need lunchies.  Later.
11:42 <@Dagmar> Scrolling up is hard work
11:42 <@rattle> Corydon76-work: Yes, as it should be.
11:42 <@rattle> The disgrace that is http://fabric.tlorah.net even still exists.
11:42 < GateKeeper> Title: Fabric Staircase (at fabric.tlorah.net)
11:42 <@Dagmar> But what kind of asshole puts a watchdog on cron jobs to kill them after ten minutes
11:43 <@Dagmar> BT DiamondIP!  That's who!
11:43 <@Dagmar> Fucking motherfucking fuck fucks.
11:44 < wilpig_> 09:30 < wilpig_> okay people riddle me this.  You have a dell with a raid controller and 10 hotswap bays.  you are not using a large hardware raid volume instead you have setup each disk as a raid0 to itself and then are doing software raid with mdadm.   Why?
11:44 < wilpig_> 09:32 < wilpig_> Mirage, Dagmar, rattle? ^
11:44 <@Corydon76-work> rattle: I'm always appropriately amused when somebody attempts to "dox" me
11:45 <@Dagmar> Two possible reasons
11:45 <@Corydon76-work> When nothing about you is hidden, doxing is a useless task
11:45 <@Dagmar> 1. You are mentally deficient
11:46 < wilpig_> Corydon76-work: that reminds me.  I need to update my address on everything.  didn't touch any of the domains when I moved they all still point to nashville
11:46 <@Dagmar> 2. Your controller doesn't actually automatically rebuild arrays when it sees a new drive added, and there are no tools for triggering this available for the Linux distro you're using.
11:46 <@Dagmar> In the case of #2, buy something that's supported
11:47 <@Dagmar> There's generally not a sane reason to not let a hardware raid controller do it's job nowadays
11:47 < wilpig_> Dagmar: I have no idea the rationalization and I am trying to get one.  my only guess was it allows them to use the drive add/remove features of the raid controller without using it to manage the raid
11:47 <@Dagmar> Those vendors finally got the clue that they look like idiots when their arrays don't automatically rebuild themselves when they see a new drive appear in a slot that was previously marked as bad.
11:48 <@Dagmar> wilpig_: Yes but fuck that.  A sane person would simply just make the thing one big-ass volume and slice it up via LVM
11:48 <@Dagmar> ...or if they're looking for increased throughput, they'd just _configure the damn array to do it properly_?)
11:49 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: what, via RAID 10?
11:49 <@Dagmar> s/?//
11:49  * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 
11:50 <@Dagmar> I can't see a controller not supporting 10
11:50 <@Dagmar> Not in this day and age
11:51 < wilpig_> Dagmar: maybe i'll be able to get an answer out of my boss when he gets here.  I am confused by it for sure
11:51 <@rattle> Corydon76-work: I've had instances when someone has tried to "dox" me and it's been funny as hell.  "What, can't Google bro?  It's in wikipedia for fucks sake!"
11:52 < wilpig_> the other thing was if they want the software raid for some reason vs hardware why not just set the controllers to jbod?
11:52 < wilpig_> rattle: you missed the fun when one of skydick's minions went and pulled my info then threatened me with it.
11:53 <@rattle> wilpig_: I'm a bit confused.  A Raid0 on a single disk?  How do you stripe across a single disk?
11:53 <@Dagmar> You don't
11:53 < wilpig_> you can't which is what is so strange about that entire setup.  I can only assume they did it that way to allow for the hot plugging of disks
11:53 <@rattle> Makes no sense.
11:53 <@Dagmar> It seems baffling to involve mdadm
11:54 <@rattle> Having multiple disks on a system w/o an actual raid controller makes a lot of sense if you are doing something like ZFS though.
11:54 <@rattle> But mdam doesn't make any sense.  LVM, sure..  It's always nice to be able to expand a volume, so if you think you might need to, it's worth it.  The overhead of LVM is pretty low.
11:54 < wilpig_> I have creds that I can look at some of these strange boxes but havne't
11:55 <@rattle> My guess is that someone did something with automated build procedures that's wacky..  Like a procedure for a system with multiple disks, that when preformed on one, does unnecessary shit..
11:56 <@Dagmar> Maybe someone was in a hurry and didn't have time to test anything they hadn't done before
11:57 <@rattle> I'll double down on the automated build theory..  I can't picture someone going through all the trouble to do something manually without a reason to do so.
11:57 <@rattle> Or someone simply got mixed up between what software raid does and what logical volume management does..
11:57 <@Shadow404> rattle: which minion?
11:58 <@Shadow404> and how did he threaten you?
11:58 <@Shadow404> er, wilpig_
11:59 <@rattle> Not a story worth sharing in any detail..  Short short, I talked shit on anonymous, skid said he was going to d0x me.
11:59 < wilpig_> uhhh the one that popped in here.  I can't even remember his name.  I think he was threatening to come to my apt and beat my ass or something of htat ilk
11:59 <@Shadow404> why?
12:01 < wilpig_> dont' remember.
12:01 < wilpig_> and my day just went crappy
12:01 < wilpig_> I am about to sned you some instructions on what I would like you to do
12:01 < wilpig_> 12:00 but yeah, basically you will be handling sensitive files that will be given to law enforcement at some point
12:01 < wilpig_> yay! I get to do paperwork
12:03 < aestetix_> hey
12:03 < aestetix_> http://www.idecosystem.org/content/taxonomy-ad-hoc-group-meeting-4
12:03 < GateKeeper> Title: Identity Ecosystem Steering Group | Created to administer the development of policy, standards, and accreditation processes for the Identity Ecosystem Framework. (at www.idecosystem.org)
12:03 < aestetix_> phone meeting in 30 minutes
12:04 < aestetix_> Dagmar: you should join it. We'll be discussing definitions of anonymity and pseudonymity :)
12:04 <@rattle> I get the impression a lot of thought goes into chain-of-custody over there. </sarcarm>
12:05 < aestetix_> rattle: you wanna join too?
12:05 <@Dagmar> I'm at work at the moment and this is a cube farm
12:06 <@Dagmar> Dont' forget to mention the BP shills tho
12:06 < aestetix_> the BP shils?
12:06 <@Dagmar> You didn't see this thing on Slashdot today?
12:06 < aestetix_> nope
12:06 < aestetix_> Oh wait
12:06 < aestetix_> Is that the EFF case?
12:06 <@Dagmar> BP hired a firm to _harass and intimidate_ people saying bad things about their oil spill on Facebook
12:06 < aestetix_> oh wow
12:06 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah.  Caught red-handed at it, too.
12:07 <@rattle> There are times I'd find that interesting?  Right now, it's right up there with having a discussion about Anxiety of Influence with second year liberal arts majors and getting a root canal.
12:07 <@Dagmar> This is an argument that we need persistent identity capability, but highlights _exactly_ why tying it to anything outside the current scope of discussion is dangerous
12:08 <@Dagmar> ABout the best that can be accomplished there is that Person X is a persistent identity on Site Y who has a history with Site Y
12:09 < aestetix_> where is this story? I jsut went three pages deep on slashdot and didn't see it
12:09 < wilpig_> ugh. part of my instruction set for this is "do not goto any of the blogs you are making enrypted copies of"
12:09 <@Dagmar> Maybe it was HNN.  Lemme dig
12:09 < aestetix_> ok
12:09 <@Dagmar> You fail at reading.
12:09 <@Dagmar> Second page
12:09 < aestetix_> that might be
12:09 <@Dagmar> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/11/20/2218252/bp-hired-company-to-troll-users-who-left-critical-comments
12:09 < GateKeeper> Title: BP Hired Company To Troll Users Who Left Critical Comments - Slashdot (at tech.slashdot.org)
12:09 < aestetix_> dur
12:09 < aestetix_> thanks
12:10 < aestetix_> also rattle I will not take that personally :p
12:10 < aestetix_> Especially if Andrea writes a scathing article about the Oakland surveillance ;)
12:11 <@Dagmar> Trying to put roadblocks in the way of people who just want a persistent, limited context nym, in simply going to restrict the ability of individuals to remain private, while enhancing the viability of corporations shilling
12:11 <@Dagmar> derp derp
12:11 <@Dagmar> Let me try that sentence again.
12:11 <@rattle> aestetix_: Yeah, please don't take it personally.
12:12 <@Dagmar> Trying to put roadblocks in the way of people who just want a persistent pseudonym of limited scope, is only going to harm an individuals ability to maintain their privacy, while enhancing both the viability and the marketability of corporate shillery as a service.
12:12 <@Dagmar> ...which this BP incident rather handily illustrates.
12:14 <@Dagmar> Frankly, a troll I'd ignore, but if a _corporation_ started harassing me, I would be rather likely to go buy a taser and make a little road trip to penetration test someone's internet connectivity
12:14 <@Dagmar> ...with large amounts of voltage applied directly to sensitive shit.
12:14 < aestetix_> Well
12:14 < aestetix_> I think this is particularly interesting because of the perception we normally have of trolls as basement dwellers
12:14 <@Dagmar> Most places, it doesn't take ten minutes of looking about to find an appropriately sensitive ingress point for Large Amounts of Hostile Electricity
12:15 < aestetix_> Whereas in this case it was a massive corporation
12:15 <@Dagmar> This isn't the first time a corporation has done it.  It's just hte first time one has gotten caught red-handed at it.
12:15  * aestetix_ nods
12:15 < aestetix_> AT&T comes to mind
12:15 <@Dagmar> Remember, Facebook was paying a PR firm money to make people angry at Google and keep politicians going after them over the wifi sniffing bullshit.
12:16  * aestetix_ nods
12:16 <@Dagmar> Trying to destroy anonymity on the internet only makes corporate shillery more effective
12:16  * aestetix_ nods
12:17 <@Dagmar> ...because corporations face no such roadblocks to hiding their identity.
12:17 < aestetix_> well
12:17 < aestetix_> there's a power struggle here
12:17 <@Dagmar> They are treated as persons, but do not as such have an identity.  They _always_ have to fabricate one.
12:17 < aestetix_> If power is money or law, large corporations have a lot more of it
12:17 <@Dagmar> No, I have power.
12:18 <@Dagmar> What I have that corporations _don't_ is a moral compass.
12:18 < aestetix_> I never said you didn't.
12:18 < aestetix_> And yes, absolutely.
12:18 <@Dagmar> No, I mean that's rather the point.
12:18 < aestetix_> Well, that was a big IF I stated. Power takes many forms.
12:18 <@Dagmar> iwthout hiring a shitton of people, on the internet, *I* have about as much power as any corporation, if not more, just because I know how this shit works.
12:19 < aestetix_> And all the laws in the world go out the window if everyone sees something fucked up happen under them.
12:19 <@Dagmar> The difference is that people tend to have morals, even if they're assholes.
12:19 <@Dagmar> Corporations do not have morals.  Ever.
12:19 < aestetix_> Unless they are a sociopath :p
12:19 <@Dagmar> Sociopaths are an anomaly for humans.  They are normal state for a corporation.
12:19  * aestetix_ nods
12:20 <@Dagmar> I suspect a powerful argument can be made against trying to enforce "real human idenity" rules once corporations-as-people come into play
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12:31 < wilpig_> ugh.  1.7G of NSFL content
12:32 <@rattle> http://www.sadanduseless.com/2013/11/inspirational-fitness-quotes/
12:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Inspirational Fitness Quotes Over Pictures of Drunks (at www.sadanduseless.com)
12:35 <@rattle> WOAH!
12:35 <@rattle> Senate went nuclear.
12:41 < wilpig_> hrmmm.  interesting.  five finger deathpunch cover of house of the rising sun
12:49 <@SuMo_D> hmmmm.... that would be errr interesting?
12:49 <@SuMo_D> Their first album was good.... then just yeah... got more and more redecky
12:50 <@Shadow404> .-.. --- .-..
13:01 <@Dagmar> rattle: Do tell?
13:02 <@rattle> They changed Senate rules to allow majority cloture for presidential nominees.
13:02 <@rattle> Nominees can no longer be minority filibustered.
13:03 <@rattle> Bills still can though?  So it's not completely nuclear.
13:04 <@Dagmar> Wow there's lots of flagrant bullshit being spewed to CNN
13:06 <@Dagmar> They're trying to declare a lack of parity because of past events, but those past events involved Democrats actually having a legit gripe and being open to negotiation, rather than the present Republican tactic of just gumming up the works endlessly.
13:14 <@Corydon76-work> Ah, the change also doesn't apply to SCOTUS nominees
13:44 < aestetix_> wow that was fun
13:44 < aestetix_> an hour of debate over the definition of the phrase "digital identity"
14:08 <@SuMo_D> maybe its just me... cause I"m from Nevada... but yeah Harry Reid calling a nuclear option is kinda funny... I guess that he's been playing with the waste out there in Yucca Mountain
14:09 <@SuMo_D> sounds like it'll be a good change though if he can get it through
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15:12 <@Corydon76-work> SuMo_D: Yep, he already got it through
15:12 <@Corydon76-work> He's had the votes for the longest time; he just didn't want to have to go through with it
15:18 <@Mirage> Anyone know how to convert size to extents off the top of their head?
16:08 <@Corydon76-work> Mirage: last time I did it, I just gave the utility some outrageously large number, and it told me, it only had N extents available.
16:11 <@Corydon76-work> and then I just used that number, because that was the size I wanted anyway
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16:52 < aestetix_> so
16:52 < aestetix_> Does the filibuster thing require a constitutional amendment?
16:53 < aestetix_> I'm kind of confused at how they think they can just vote it away.
16:53 <@Corydon76-work> No, because the filibuster itself is not guaranteed by the Constitution
16:53 < aestetix_> Ah, got it. So they just closed the loophole?
16:54 < aestetix_> IE I thought the senate's ability to filibuster was due to a loophole
16:55 <@Corydon76-work> No, the Senate's ability to filibuster is due to their rules
16:55 <@oddball> I believe it's an part of standard parlimentary procedure that predates the constitution.
16:56  * aestetix_ nods
16:56 < aestetix_> There is a precedent in english common law about it
16:56 <@oddball> But both the Senate and the House agree on the rules every regular interval (every year?)
16:56 < aestetix_> (it covers this in "Master of the Senate" I just can't rememeber the details)
16:59 <@Corydon76-work> The rules are separate for each chamber
16:59 <@Corydon76-work> I thought there was a clause of "Unlimited debate" for the Senate, but I can't find it in the Constitution
17:00 <@Corydon76-work> Apparently it was only ever in the rules
17:10 < aestetix_> From what i recall, there are time limits for an item on the floor, but no time limits for moving an item to the floor
17:12 <@Corydon76-work> Well, there is definitely a time limit for any bill of 2 years.
17:12 <@Corydon76-work> If it takes longer than that to move a bill, it dies with the end of that session of Congress.
17:13 <@Corydon76-work> Or rather, a maximum of 2 years, assuming it was originally introduced on the first day of a new session
17:26 < aestetix_> vagina
17:44 < aestetix_> man where did the week go
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18:17 <@SuMo_D> I don't know... how is it Thursday already
18:19 <@Corydon76-work> I've been managing a crisis for the last 3 weeks, so my week has been fun
18:20 <@Corydon76-work> At the beginning of November, we upgraded our Enterprise platform and broke one of the features, which had to be advanced to the vendor development team, and their track record is getting back to us after several months
18:20 < aestetix_> I've been managing several crises, so I know the feeling.
18:20 < aestetix_> You didn't test it first?
18:21 <@Corydon76-work> As a result, I've had to recode the modules for several customers
18:21 <@Corydon76-work> This is a batch system.  We don't have an alternate system on which testing can occur
18:21 < aestetix_> Ahh.
18:21 <@Corydon76-work> At least, not yet
18:23 <@Corydon76-work> And after breakage that bad, getting ANYTHING into production is better than complete breakage
18:23 <@Corydon76-work> As a result, I'm dealing with various bugs after deploying the recoded modules
18:25 < aestetix_> http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2013/11/kayla_mendoza_accident_drunk.php
18:25 < GateKeeper> Title: Alleged Killer Kayla Mendoza Tweets "2 Drunk 2 Care" Before Causing Horrific Accident (at blogs.miaminewtimes.com)
18:26 <@Corydon76-work> and even better, the vendor changed the terminology for charging credit cards, and everybody is confused
18:26 <@Corydon76-work> Y'know, instead of using industry standard terms, they tried to dumb it down
18:27 < aestetix_> You know
18:27 < aestetix_> If the standards are confusing, at least *someone* knows what they mean
18:28 <@Corydon76-work> The words are "Pre-auth" and "Auth", and they changed them, respectively, to "Auth" and "Sale"
18:28 < aestetix_> what
18:28 <@Corydon76-work> Yeah, exactly
18:29 <@Corydon76-work> Using the same word in two different versions to mean two different things, is just plain stupid
18:30 < eryc_> shoulda used pre-auth and sale
18:30 <@Corydon76-work> ESPECIALLY when the word you're using has a COMPLETELY different meaning to the industry
18:30 -!- eryc_ is now known as eryc
18:31 <@Corydon76-work> I'm going to leave it the way I think it ought to be, because at least we'll ensure we get paid that way
18:39 < aestetix_> ok stupid question
18:39 < aestetix_> Does innodb use a key_buffer?
18:39 < aestetix_> or does it only use the innodb_buffer_pool?
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18:43 < eryc> http://photos.denverpost.com/2013/11/21/photos-feds-raid-denver-area-medical-marijuana-facilities/#5
18:43 < GateKeeper> Title: Photos: Feds raid Denver-area medical marijuana facilities (at photos.denverpost.com)
18:44 < RangerZ> good, maybe those hippies will go get jobs now doing something legal in their state
18:50 < aestetix_> lol
18:50 < aestetix_> wait a second
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18:59 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtHt_4ls05k Corydon76-work just bought a xbox one for some reason...
18:59 < GateKeeper> Title: XBox One can see your PENIS?! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
19:10 <@Corydon76-work> I actually tend to stay away from Microsoft products
19:11 < RangerZ> so I stayed up late last night, started around 11pm , got like 2hrs sleep, and my project was the farthest along in class
19:11 < RangerZ> and i'm working solo
19:11 < RangerZ> lulz
19:11 < aestetix_> what project?
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19:27 < RangerZ> software development final project
19:27 < RangerZ> today was initial demo day
19:27 < aestetix_> fun
19:28 < aestetix_> does that say more about you or your classmates?
19:28 < RangerZ> nah, we're all just busy as fuck
19:29 < RangerZ> my class has some of the best coders i know of, both in and out of acedemia
19:29 < RangerZ> academia*
19:32 < RangerZ> but that just means we procrastinate more, lol
19:53 <@SuMo_D> Ok... so this is creepy... a bit... I got a "send this to _friends name__" from yahoo about kickstarter... this is the same person I help run the kids program with and has a kickstarter up right now. So..... there you go... for the record I don't usually give a crap about personal privacy, but yeah this one is just weird
20:04 < aestetix_> from yahoo?
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20:28 <@SuMo_D> yeah from yahoo
20:28 <@SuMo_D> Oooooooh
20:28 <@SuMo_D> Nevermind... I see it now
20:29 <@SuMo_D> it said it was from yahoo, but it was from one of the mom's in the program that showed up as Yahoo as the sender for some reason
20:29 <@SuMo_D> I thought that was way too convoluted and weird
20:32 < eryc> http://textastrophe.com/post/67676685812/the-painting
20:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Textastrophe | The Painting (at textastrophe.com)
20:37 < eryc> RangerZ: when do you graduate?
20:38 < RangerZ> hopefully in 2 weeks
20:38 < RangerZ> or so
20:38 < eryc> i need to hire a coder
20:38 < eryc> you need a job?
20:38 < RangerZ> I'm definitely looking
20:39 < eryc> we're mostly doing python and javascript now
20:39 < RangerZ> PM
21:09 <@sasquatc4> anyone know of any sites that list tech seminars?
21:28 < aestetix_> heh
21:28 < aestetix_> my goal is to eventually get an honorary degree from somewhere :p
22:38 < RangerZ> sasquatc4: acm.org
22:38 < RangerZ> sasquatc4: ieee.org
22:38 < RangerZ> for conferences atleast
22:38 < RangerZ> good reading in the journals (can get a bit math heavy)
22:38 < RangerZ> i STILL see math symbols i've never seen before popping up every once in a while
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23:29 <@sasquatc4> yea, was just tryin to find some smaller ones, not big conferences
23:30 <@sasquatc4> apparently the office implemented some policy where we have to do some sort of course, training, development etc. each year, and in their all team meeting today which had been postponed 4 times since this summer they decided to remind us, with one month left to do anything
23:31 <@sasquatc4> of course all the managers, and alot of senior engrs already completed it cause they had a code complete guy from MS come to the office and forced them to take it, and said the rest of us would take it later, 7 months later and no course yet, and the one training course they were going to offer that i was interested in never happened, after saying it would for 6 months
23:31 <@sasquatc4> so now i gotta figure out somethin to do
23:31 <@SuMo_D> most of the resources I know are for kids :/
23:32 <@SuMo_D> but a lot of times if there is a vendor or something, like I know MAC-on-Campus and Adobe do excellent education for graphics for educators and students
23:33 <@sasquatc4> i did talk to our head architect though who has some input in to the learning crap, and he said i could read linux device drivers and that would be good
23:33 <@sasquatc4> just figured if there was a seminar around i could knock it out in one day instead of reading a 500 page book
23:34 <@SuMo_D> They just had Upstate Linux Users Fest
23:35 <@SuMo_D> I think that's what it was....
23:36 <@SuMo_D> sasquat4 what area are you in? Nashville?
23:36 <@sasquatc4> denver now, originally from nashville, went to a few pn's
23:39 <@SuMo_D> Sparkfun is in Denver I know they do seminars and hackers in residence and whatnot
23:39 <@SuMo_D> Not sure if they can help you with linux though :/
23:40 <@sasquatc4> true, well it doesnt have to be linux explicitly, i do embedded development based on linux, so its just related
23:42 <@SuMo_D> hmmm
23:43 <@SuMo_D> well maybe do something with the piduino?
23:43 <@sasquatc4> naw, should probably be related, ill probably just have to read device drivers, or find a book on arm architecture since we are moving to that soon
23:44 <@SuMo_D> k
23:44 <@SuMo_D> I"m learning everything right now... but yeah I tend to be like OOoOOOOo hardware :D
23:45 <@sasquatc4> thats why i like the embedded stuff, you get a mix of the hardware and software
23:48 <@SuMo_D> :)
23:53 < aestetix_> penis
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