--- Log opened Tue Nov 12 00:00:19 2013
00:01 < RangerZ> yeah
00:01 < RangerZ> and you can LINK to stuff
00:01 < RangerZ> so people linking to malware
00:01 < RangerZ> viruses, porn
00:01 < RangerZ> openDCIM
00:01 <@aestetix> oh fuck
00:01 < RangerZ> and even worse things
00:01 <@aestetix> ugh
00:01 < RangerZ> ohh
00:01 < RangerZ> and ASCII ART
00:01 < RangerZ> for fucks sake
00:01 <@aestetix> they really didn't think this through
00:02 <@SuMo_D> Ascii penis!
00:02 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: there are some on boogie's video if you want
00:03 <@SuMo_D> aestetix I agree with that guy that there isn't enough exposure or resources for male victims of sexual assault
00:03 <@aestetix> with what guy?
00:03 <@SuMo_D> and yeah... the rest of it is just frustation
00:04 <@SuMo_D> the video you posted up earlier
00:04 < RangerZ> i posted it
00:04 < RangerZ> lol
00:04 <@aestetix> uhhh which video did I posT?
00:04 <@aestetix> oh
00:04 <@SuMo_D> oh whoops
00:04 <@aestetix> heh
00:04 <@SuMo_D> sorry dude
00:04 <@aestetix> no wonder I'm confused
00:04 <@SuMo_D> ha
00:04 < RangerZ> saying he should stop trolling
00:04 < RangerZ> being "Anti feminist"
00:04 < RangerZ> etc
00:04 <@aestetix> you know
00:04 < RangerZ> then i posted this youtube stuff
00:04 <@aestetix> nobody's anti-feminist, at least I'm not
00:04 <@aestetix> I'm very much anti-fauxminist though
00:05 <@SuMo_D> yeah
00:06 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: I'm too much of a george calin and lenny bruce fan to swallow any of the garbage about sexual language and imagery
00:06 <@aestetix> *inappropriate* language and imagery, on the other hand....
00:07 <@SuMo_D> yeah, I think the issue is that for some women its a big trigger
00:07 <@SuMo_D> especially if they've been through abuse or assault
00:07 <@aestetix> well, being gay is a trigger for fundamentalist christians
00:08 <@SuMo_D> can be, for sure
00:08 <@aestetix> so does that mean you need to stop "being gay"?
00:08 <@SuMo_D> that's why they hold kiss ins at chick-fillas
00:08 <@aestetix> right
00:09 <@aestetix> I mean, I'm also not advocating someone have gay sex in front of the christians
00:09 <@aestetix> (unless it's fred phelps)
00:09 <@SuMo_D> no, and I'm with you, we need more sex positive things and less fear revolving around VAGINA or PENIS
00:09 <@aestetix> I was actually debating putting together a talk called "History of sex" and submitting it to one of those conferences
00:10 <@aestetix> And making ssure to have a penis and a vagina on every slide
00:11 <@SuMo_D> but just sayin, it can be actively harmful sometimes when you push people too far too fast... instead of making blanket statements need to go back to the don't be a dick policy
00:11 <@aestetix> well yes
00:11 <@SuMo_D> yeah Foucault wrote a history of sex - I've not gotten around to it, but I'm sure its something
00:12 <@aestetix> that's why context is important
00:12 <@SuMo_D> Exactly
00:12 <@SuMo_D> context is key
00:12 <@aestetix> Notice that ada initiative doesn't care about context
00:13 <@SuMo_D> I haven't looked at them too closely
00:13 <@SuMo_D> I saw some stuff they were doing that looked cool
00:13 <@SuMo_D> but yeah the code of conduct thing... errr
00:13 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: look up bsidessf
00:13 <@SuMo_D> hey did you see I asked your opinion on Double Union earlier?
00:13 <@aestetix> http://www.securitybsides.com/w/page/35868077/BSidesSanFrancisco
00:13 < GateKeeper> Title: Security B-Sides / BSidesSanFrancisco (at www.securitybsides.com)
00:13 <@aestetix> yes
00:14 <@SuMo_D> I didn't see your response
00:14 <@SuMo_D> but can probably guess?
00:14 <@aestetix> I also disagree with their approach. It's similar to AI :)
00:15 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: basically I'm opposed to any org that censors things without reason
00:15 <@aestetix> (reason being... censoring things from children, etc)
00:16 <@aestetix> And yeah, the whole discussion about makign a space "safe" is kind of disgusting to me
00:16 <@aestetix> because they usually mean "puritan"
00:17 <@aestetix> (I consider a safe place somewhere that I can push boundaries without getting hurt)
00:17 <@aestetix> well, respectfully push*
00:17 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: do you do a lot of work 'fixing' 3d models?
00:17 <@SuMo_D> yeah... I donno the whole "you don't even know how to make a safe space" and "you are not qualified to run a gender conference" tweets were among the wort
00:17 <@SuMo_D> worst
00:17 <@SuMo_D> yes I agree aestetix
00:18 <@SuMo_D> I don't understand why people can't be adults
00:18 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: which is hilarious because .... what qualifications do the ada initiative have?
00:18 <@SuMo_D> EXACTLY
00:18 <@SuMo_D> I don't really need a group to say hey... let me make a safe space for you
00:18 <@SuMo_D> it takes away my choice
00:18 <@aestetix> yep
00:19 <@SuMo_D> to deal with situations and people and just infantalizes the people in the situation
00:19 <@aestetix> yep
00:19 <@aestetix> it's a wierd sort of fascism meets communism
00:19 <@SuMo_D> we want people to grow up and not be rapey jerks
00:19 <@aestetix> I wouldn't say "grow up"
00:19 <@aestetix> but I would say "be respectful"
00:19 <@SuMo_D> don't treat them like 12 year olds that need to be scolded
00:19 < RangerZ> ok... how the fuck do parents not teach their boys not to FUCKING RAPE
00:19 <@SuMo_D> you know what I mean
00:20 <@aestetix> RangerZ: by talking to them about sex
00:20 <@SuMo_D> beats me Rangerz
00:20 <@aestetix> and not freaking out when kids play doctor
00:20 < RangerZ> 1) SuMo_D: no I won't beat you, that wouldn't be nice 2) aestetix by 'not'
00:20 <@aestetix> wait what?
00:20 <@SuMo_D> RangerZ... you wouldn't want to fight me... trust me on that one
00:20 <@aestetix> not talking to kids about sex is the worst thing you can do
00:21 <@aestetix> because then they have all these urges and feelings and don't know what to do about them
00:21 < RangerZ> ohh i thought you meant, thats how they don't
00:21 < RangerZ> nvm
00:21 <@aestetix> oh heh
00:22 <@oddball> RangerZ: Parents clearly aren't teaching them shit.  I don't remember my parents ever telling me specifically that I shouldn't rape women.  I pretty much figured that that was part of the "don't be a flaming asshole."
00:22 < RangerZ> yeah, but your parents taught you not to be one of those
00:23 <@SuMo_D> look, I went through puberty while living in Saudi Arabia... and I lived in Las Vegas for HS - I've seen all extremes of the spectrum in regards to sexuality...
00:23 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: oh fuck
00:23 <@SuMo_D> the key to dealing with it is knowing yourself, and knowing your context
00:23 <@aestetix> that must have been insane
00:23 <@SuMo_D> ya know... not really
00:23 <@aestetix> I'm glad you got out of there
00:23 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: were you on a US base?
00:23 <@SuMo_D> no
00:24 <@SuMo_D> but an ex-pat compound, so close
00:24 <@aestetix> heh
00:24 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: I've read about saudi laws regarding women
00:24 <@oddball> And now we have kids having parties where the football team rapes a girl and, instead of stopping it or reporting it, the rest of the party goers fucking chear them on and whip out the camera phones.
00:24 <@aestetix> it's fucked up
00:25 <@SuMo_D> yeah, but that's the difference between the published laws and people's reality
00:25 <@SuMo_D> also the reality of ex-pats living in the country is different than the Saudi females
00:26 <@SuMo_D> I was chased by a matawha once when I was at the safeway with my mom telling me to go home and put on a dress and it scared the shit out of her
00:26 <@SuMo_D> we went and hid in the women's section at the doughnut shop
00:26 <@SuMo_D> there was another woman in there with her little son who was like yeah, he saw me smoking.... so she ran too
00:27 < RangerZ> aestetix: there is a really interesting youtube documentary where one of the saudi princes and gov. of one of the states talks about modernization
00:27 < RangerZ> but he's the gov. of one of the most hard line areas, so its funky
00:27 < RangerZ> but his wife/kids don't wear any garb when in private
00:27 < RangerZ> or out in the desert
00:27 <@SuMo_D> none of them do...
00:28 < RangerZ> apparently in his area, they do
00:28 <@SuMo_D> in private?
00:28 <@SuMo_D> no
00:28 < RangerZ> i meant "non public" not 'private'
00:28 < RangerZ> hold on
00:28 <@SuMo_D> mom lived there in the mid '70s right after she got married to dad out in the desert... that was craziness
00:29 < RangerZ> lol
00:30 < RangerZ> i meant 'not in the public view' , but still not 'in private', so the film crew was recording them, etc (I have no idea how 'common' that is, or how often it happens or anything
00:30 < RangerZ> just what i saw on the film
00:31 < RangerZ> but my idea of 'private' is bedroom/home only , but ehh
00:31 < RangerZ> i could see the confusion in my statements
00:31 <@SuMo_D> When we left in I think... '95 they had just finished building the mall, that looked like any other mall... and yeah it varies
00:31 <@SuMo_D> usually depends on how many pissed of matawah are roaming around
00:32 < RangerZ> this prince said he wishes they didn't exist
00:32 < RangerZ> which is BIG for a prince to say that
00:32 <@SuMo_D> yep
00:40 <@SuMo_D> so... is women being raped at technical conferences really a thing?
00:41 <@aestetix> yes
00:41 <@SuMo_D> that sucks
00:41 <@SuMo_D> really really sucks
00:41 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: http://georgiaweidman.com/wordpress/guess-you-thought-i-was-someone-to-mess-with/
00:41 <@oddball> Sadly, it has happened.  Not sure how common it is.
00:41 <@aestetix> I will warn you, that's a bit graphic to read
00:44 <@oddball> Similarly, there's been a lot of discussion about sexual harassment at scifi cons, 'cause there's apparently a number of dumb asses that think that a girl dressed up in a revealing/flattering costume means "game on!"
00:44 <@SuMo_D> yeah aestetix I'm skipping through parts of it
00:44 <@SuMo_D> man... that sucks
00:44 <@SuMo_D> and yeah I've heard that from my cosplay friends
00:50 <@oddball> It's been a major discussion in a couple Dragoncon communities for a couple years.  My favorite are the people that say that Dragoncon is at least partially to blame since they haven't spelled it out that they don't want specifically that behavior in their terms on your badge.  I thought it was covered under the section that says "we have the right to pull your badge if you're behaving, technically speaking, like a jerk."
00:51 <@oddball> Although, I believe the number of instances have dropped significantly since you now have to either have a badge or a hotel room keycard to get into the host hotels (meaning a significant drop in the number of drunk college football fans).
00:52 <@aestetix> ugh
00:52 <@aestetix> you know
00:52 <@aestetix> at burning man, a large number of the instances of douchebaggery were from people wearing baseball hats
00:52 <@aestetix> I wonder what the hell it is about frats/sports that makes guys act like douchebags
00:53 <@oddball> For the most part, it's socially acceptable/expected.
00:54 <@aestetix> I will nver understand that
00:54 <@Corydon76-home> That link right there is the reason why I don't possess firearms.  Because honestly, I don't think I could stop myself from pulling the trigger and murdering that guy.
00:55 <@oddball> I've had this theory for a while.  Talk to anyone that has worked a geek con (be it scifi, hacker, whatever), the activity already has a strike against it in the eyes of many venue management folks.  We know this, so we run fairly tight ships and clean up after ourselves.
00:55 <@aestetix> oddball: why does DragonCon require a legal ID? I ran into a number of issues over that :p
00:56 <@aestetix> actually, it's less the requiring ID, and more the plastering it on your badge
00:56 <@oddball> Get a hotel manager drunk sometime and ask them about religious groups.  They're some of the worst group you can get because they assume they can get away with damn near anything.
00:56 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: because not everybody is as responsible as you in protecting the reputation of their nom de plume
00:57 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: you'd think a conference based on scifi and fantasty would have a better degree of understanding about that stuff
00:57 <@oddball> aestetix: I know.  It's been an issue with a lot of people.  At least they had the "name to appear on badge" vaugely the same size as your real name.
00:58 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: it's also a conference founded by a well known pedophile, who if he thought it would net him another teenage boy, would don a fake name badge in a heartbeat.
00:58 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: do you think a name on a badge will do much there?
00:59 <@SuMo_D> that girl is awesome... but yeah that is horrible...
00:59 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: if kids have been told "watch out for X" and "X" is not on his badge, yes.
00:59 <@SuMo_D> what's more horrible is it sounds very similar to stories I've heard before
00:59 <@oddball> jonnyX can probably talk about this better than I can (or maybe not, since he's still involved with that con), but the guys on the top end of running that thing can have strange ideas and don't seem to be willing to listen to anyone when those ideas are stupid.
00:59 <@Corydon76-home> I've also heard "Watch out for John Draper" a few times.
01:00 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: there are other ways than names to identify someone.
01:00 <@aestetix> That also assumes he'll have his badge out at all times.
01:00 <@aestetix> He could easily tuck it away when he's moving in on the laddie.
01:00 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: He has not been involved since close to the very beginning, and the con has made it no secret that he's been banned for life.
01:00 <@aestetix> wow that sounded wrong
01:01 <@Corydon76-home> Well, and there's also deplorable situations like the rape, and it's better to be able to track someone down if everybody who saw him knows him by his real name
01:01 <@aestetix> oddball: it's incredibly violating. What if I were a sex worker giving a talk about sex in the fantasy realm?
01:01 <@aestetix> And I used a nym to keep contexts separate?
01:02 <@oddball> Oh, I'm agreeing with you.  The "name to appear on the badge" should be the name that fucking appears on the badge... and that's it.
01:02 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: I don't agree with that at all.
01:02 <@aestetix> It might be easier to track someone down *outside* the conference via police records or something
01:03 <@oddball> Maybe... Maybe have your legal name in small print somewhere on it if you're worried about badge sharing/lost and found/whatever.
01:03 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: I'm not saying it's a sufficient reason, just trying to understand the policy
01:03 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: I can see all kinds of reasons they'd adopt such a policy. I've also spent the last few years working to debunk each of those reasons :)
01:03 <@Corydon76-home> When it comes time to prosecute, it's also helpful if the witnesses refer to the accused using the same name as is on his ID
01:04 <@oddball> There was one year that they had the legal name in big bold letters, and the name you stated you wanted on the badge in significantly smaller, non-bold letters.
01:04 <@aestetix> oddball: that's fucked up
01:04 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: I would think it ought to be the opposite
01:05 <@oddball> That was the general consensus of most people attending.
01:05 <@Corydon76-home> Legal name at the bottom of every badge, in smaller text
01:05 <@aestetix> you know
01:05 <@aestetix> doesn't that whole system break down if you have a fake ID?
01:05 <@oddball> Oh, and the hometown was in bigger letters as well.  I don't understand why the hometown should be there at all.
01:06 <@oddball> aestetix: Pretty much.
01:06 <@aestetix> Since it's an identity token dependent on another identity token
01:07 < RangerZ> oddball: which con was this?
01:07 <@aestetix> Although incidentally, none of the things I was interested needed a badge
01:07 <@aestetix> (mostly the EFF track))
01:07 <@oddball> I understand them wanting the real name for purposes of pre-reg... and the hometown being on there from back when they had the badges pre-printed (oh, you're the John Smith from St. Lewis), but they now print out the labels when you pick up your badge.
01:07 <@oddball> RangerZ: Dragoncon.
01:08 < RangerZ> ahh
01:08 <@aestetix> The only reason I see it being on the badge is to compare the ID to the badge for entry to a 21+ event
01:08 <@SuMo_D> ok, I need to get some rest - This is pretty fun http://imgmoo.com/index.php/896/recreating-childhood-photos/ night you guys
01:08 <@oddball> aestetix: They didn't have someone checking at the door?  Or hell, at night to get into the hotel?
01:09 <@aestetix> oddball: meh, just go in with a large crowd, they don't care
01:09 <@aestetix> On the EFF track, maybe I got away with it becaues I was a speaker and therefore knew all the "bouncers"
01:10 <@aestetix> But yeah. That policy has serious issues.
01:10 <@aestetix> I really hope nobody gets stalked because someone saw their legal name on their badge.
01:10 <@oddball> Not saying you couldn't sneak in, but there's usually a guy at the door of all the panels to check badges.
01:14 <@aestetix> also, vagina
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07:30 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:44 <@Shadow404> whats up slut
07:45 <@Shadow404> i dont know why time reporting for IT has to be any different than any other business unit...just because i play call of duty and battlefield 4 while im waiting for a database to finish backing up, doesnt mean im not being productive
07:59 <@Dolemite> wilpig: ping
08:06 <@wilpig> Dolemite: pong
08:06 <@Dolemite> wilpig: Have you tried your installer on a completely empty database?
08:06 <@wilpig> fuckin' snow.  man.... that shit added 20 minutes to my drive and not cause the roads were shitty
08:06 <@wilpig> no
08:06 <@Dolemite> That's what I'm working on this morning.
08:07 <@Dolemite> Just wanted to see if you knew about it
08:07 <@wilpig> ummm... it should just use the create.sql
08:07 <@Dolemite> No, it fatal errors out when you try to check user rights
08:07 <@Dolemite> because your query before that of $users=$dbh->query($sql)->fetchColumn(); isn't returning a zero, which is the condition you're checking for
08:08 <@Dolemite> So I'm fissin' it
08:08 <@Dolemite> query on a nonexistent table returns an error, not a zero
08:08 <@wilpig> th table check is above that
08:09 <@wilpig>     $result=$dbh->prepare("SHOW TABLES;");
08:09 <@wilpig>     $result->execute();
08:09 <@wilpig> if that returns 0 rows then it uses create.sql
08:09 <@Dolemite> well it's bombing out elsewhere.  I just added some print statements for debugging, and they never make it
08:09 <@wilpig> if it is getting ot that next check and failing then look higher
08:09 <@Dolemite> I'm checking
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08:09 <@Dolemite> The area it fails on is the call to User::GetUserRights()
08:10 <@Dolemite> But that was the first occurrence in the file I found
08:10 <@Dolemite> So something else is apparently calling it
08:10 <@wilpig> check db.inc.php
08:10 <@wilpig> that's the only include above that
08:11 <@wilpig> the installer goes check pre-req -> include db creds -> check for tables -> if no tables then install otherwise figure out the version -> upgrade
08:13 <@wilpig> getting caffeine then i'll look as well
08:17 <@wilpig> you have debug set in db.inc.php
08:19 <@wilpig> nm that's what got me around it.  if devmode is set to true it is installing fine
08:20 <@Dolemite> No, I have a completely fresh install, with the db.inc.php-dist copied over to db.inc.php
08:21 <@wilpig> thats what it is.  i'm looking for a work around now
08:21 <@Dolemite> I'm trying to simulate a totally "I have no clue what I'm doing" install
08:21 <@Dolemite> I'm already knee deep in it
08:25 <@wilpig> done.  submitting fix now
08:26 <@wilpig> just an OOP problem
08:33 <@Dolemite> trying again
08:34 <@Dolemite> damn the mysql on dreamhost sure is slow
08:44 <@wilpig> damn tanya for buying string cheese
08:44 <@wilpig> I can't stop eating this shit
09:19 <@Dolemite> wilpig : Wake up!
09:44 <@aestetix> ok
09:44 <@aestetix> https://medium.com/p/cb9093d92719
09:44 < GateKeeper> Title: YoutubeG+ate — Medium (at medium.com)
09:44 <@aestetix> do you guys think that's too rambly?
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09:52 <@aestetix> oh good here's someone who will actually read it
09:52 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: https://medium.com/p/cb9093d92719
09:52 < GateKeeper> Title: YoutubeG+ate — Medium (at medium.com)
09:53 <@wilpig> WHOA!  I can get shit from newegg even faster now than I could in nashville
09:53 <@SuMo_D> I'll read it when I get back hun, trying to get out the door - wish me luck and send good vibes that they'll give us money to keep the program going!
09:53 <@wilpig> and then it was overnight
09:58 <@wilpig> hrmm.  4TB drives after coupon from newegg are $167 today
09:59 <@opticron> yeah, but it's a 5900RPM drive
09:59  * opticron is betting, anyway
10:00  * opticron still doesn't trust "green" drives
10:00 <@wilpig> I look at it as long term storage not for my desktop
10:00 <@wilpig> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178338
10:02 <@wilpig> I'm considering updating most of my media collection from SD to 720p which would inflate the size in a big way
10:02 <@wilpig> 3-4 times larger in most cases
10:03 <@wilpig> currently used space.  3.4TB which would inflate to a minimum of 9TB
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10:09 <@wilpig> thinking I might do this.  would be nice to have more storage available
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10:17 <@Shadow404> how much would 9tb cost?
10:17 <@Shadow404> gonna go the ssd route?
10:18 <@wilpig> why would I go ssd for a storage raid?
10:19 <@wilpig> I could replace my currect array with a new one that is twice as big for $877
10:20 < RangerZ1> 'maybe' go hybrid, if you are doing data crunching on it
10:20 < RangerZ1> otherwise you should go memcache or something if you are doing REAL processing
10:21 <@wilpig> it's storage.  all storage.
10:21 <@wilpig> no crunching, no processing, all storage
10:21 < RangerZ1> but for storage, i'd be with wilpig, and just go disc based
10:21 <@Shadow404> i was just curious
10:22 <@Shadow404> how marketable is putting "Sql and Obiee" on a resume?
10:22 < RangerZ1> wtf is obiee?
10:22 < RangerZ1> lol
10:22 < RangerZ1> ahh
10:22 <@Shadow404> its a database parsing program
10:22 < RangerZ1> i'd put them, a lot of companies want SQL junkies
10:23 <@Shadow404> and oyu can run advanced sql through it
10:23 <@Shadow404> yeah, i was thinking that
10:23 < RangerZ1> but i'd put them separate
10:23 <@Shadow404> which is about 1/4th of my job right now
10:23 < RangerZ1> so "sql", "obiee"
10:23 < RangerZ1> not "sql and obiee"
10:23 <@Shadow404> yeah
10:26 <@aestetix> penis
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10:26 <@aestetix> heh I was about to ask the same question about obiee
10:27 <@aestetix> Shadow404: depends who is reading it
10:27 <@aestetix> you might want to specify mysql or ms sql or whatever
10:28 <@aestetix> RangerZ1: did you read my thing on youtubeg+ate
10:28 < RangerZ1> no
10:28 < RangerZ1> didn't see it posted
10:28 <@aestetix> https://medium.com/p/cb9093d92719
10:28 < GateKeeper> Title: YoutubeG+ate — Medium (at medium.com)
10:30 < RangerZ1> tldr;
10:30 < RangerZ1> lol
10:30 < RangerZ1> i will later
10:30 <@aestetix> heh
10:32 < RangerZ1> too 'meta' for the issue
10:32 <@aestetix> heh
10:32 <@aestetix> I figured
10:32 < RangerZ1> i think the issue is more about how youtube comments just are broken right now
10:32 < RangerZ1> and YT needs to fix it
10:33 < RangerZ1> hell, i can't even MAKE a comment on a video
10:33 < RangerZ1> weird APIs issue
10:33 <@aestetix> well
10:33 < RangerZ1> i get a popup saying to login, and it never works *shrugs*
10:33 <@aestetix> that's one issue
10:33 < RangerZ1> but bookie's points are the most valid IMHO
10:34 < RangerZ1> people linking is just stupid
10:34 < RangerZ1> most people don't know not to follow links to wilpig's private clown pr0n collection
10:34 < RangerZ1> let alone "bad"-ware
10:35 < RangerZ1> boogie*'s
10:35 < RangerZ1> but yeah... I think they needed to add some kind of forum system, and let people JOIN a network , and have moderators, etc
10:35 < RangerZ1> where the channel creator is the admin, etc
10:37 <@wilpig> just got an email back from a techsupport for a pci-e storage card we use here and the response is "Some dies are gone bad on the card. 
10:37 <@wilpig> I will update you on the next process.  "
10:38 <@aestetix> RangerZ1: yeah, I don't care about that stuff as much :)
10:38 <@aestetix> maybe if I actually used G+ I would :p
10:38 < RangerZ1> ohh i don't care about g+ as MUCH
10:39 < RangerZ1> but it really is better than facebook
10:39 < RangerZ1> allows you to add people TO posts, defaults private
10:39 <@aestetix> http://i.imgur.com/IaMo02b.gif nsfw how the hell is this possible
10:39 <@wilpig> I want to click that, but tanya is sitting right there
10:40 <@aestetix> who is tanya
10:44 <@wilpig> coworker
10:44 <@wilpig> she's my new pat
10:45 < RangerZ1> pat?
10:46 <@wilpig> pat was my coworker at vandy
10:47 < RangerZ1> ahh
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10:54 <@aestetix> http://i.imgur.com/d3FeeVv.gif
10:54 <@aestetix> hahaha
11:06 <@wilpig> that's disgusting.  blech
11:15 <@Mirage> wilpig: what does being the new Pat have to do with not clicking on something?
11:16 <@Mirage> wilpig: when I worked with her she used to watch 'Real Sex' on HBO or Showtime whenever it was on.  And that show could get fairly graphic at times.
11:16 <@wilpig> Mirage: I don't really want to click on something that was labeled NSFW with a woman sitting right here
11:16 <@wilpig> was she actually watching it, or was it just on
11:16 <@Mirage> wilpig: she would change the channel to watch it
11:18 <@wilpig> lol
11:20 <@wilpig> the boss is out today,  we have no tickets or email.
11:20 <@wilpig> I'm resisting the urge to play the new xcom update
11:24 <@Shadow404> is that the x trilogy space game?
11:24 <@Shadow404> so i figured out my vnc will work on games that use directx7 or below, anything newer it just blanks screen remotely
11:27 <@wilpig> no.  it's a remake of hte old xcom: ufo defense game
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11:28 <@Shadow404> ah, ok
11:32 <@wilpig> http://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/200510/
11:32 < GateKeeper> Title: XCOM: Enemy Unknown on Steam (at store.steampowered.com)
11:32 <@wilpig> enemy within came out today
11:50 <@wilpig> lol aestetix...  rofl.  http://31.media.tumblr.com/ab1672f6e5f48c51e23a9c124b919725/tumblr_mv9py2UAGk1s71q1zo1_1280.png
12:01 <@aestetix> hahahah
12:02 <@wilpig> That is gonn ahave to be used at some point to finish an argument
12:05 <@aestetix> no they didn't
12:05 <@aestetix> my fucking god
12:06 <@aestetix> www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVGp8Z8Yb28
12:06 <@aestetix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVGp8Z8Yb28
12:06 < GateKeeper> Title: Meet the new YouTube comments - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:06 <@aestetix> that promo video
12:06 <@aestetix> the background music is the theme song to Midnight Cowboy
12:07 <@aestetix> .... that's funny if any of you have seen Midnight Cowboy
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12:55 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: have you settled on a quit date?
12:58 <@Dolemite> wilpig: I see that tech support for the 3.1 release has already begun...    with someone not realizing that their web browser was caching the web page
12:59 <@wilpig> yup
12:59 <@wilpig> did you check that the create.sql matched the db-3.0-3.1?
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13:01 <@Shadow404> hit the refresh button?
13:02 <@Dolemite> wilpig: It did.  I had already updated it.
13:02 <@Dolemite> I have gotten into the habit of bumping up create.sql on GitHub as soon as I touch the database after a release
13:04 <@Dolemite> So here's some fucked up news...
13:04 <@Dolemite> A woman up here was killed over the weekend when a car going the opposite direction hit a deer so hard that the deer flew backwards, into and out of her truck
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13:05 <@Mirage> Ouch
13:09 <@Shadow404> did the deer get charged for not crossing at a crosswalk?
13:10 <@Dolemite> Due to the new legal roadkill law, the deer could not be found for questioning.  Rumor has it that it made a tasty stew.
13:11 <@Shadow404> ah, ok
13:14 <@Shadow404> damn socialist deer
13:30 <@sasquatc3> hmmm, that was a blatant mis-representation in a daily show segment, was about the recall election in colorado for a guy who enacted gun law changes
13:30 <@sasquatc3> they interviewed all these people saying they would have voted for the new gun laws, and then went on to ask if they voted in the election, to which they all said no
13:30 <@sasquatc3> but everyone they interviewed was in downtown denver, the guys election was in colorado springs, so no shit they didnt vote
13:32 <@wilpig> it was the daily show?
13:32 <@wilpig> I'm surprised they weren't interviewing people in florida then for a colorado election
13:32 <@sasquatc3> yea
13:36 <@wilpig> so my boss sent an email out to the networking and datacenter groups saying he was sick and wouldn't be in today.  was it wise of me to reply with "the lunatics are running the asylum.  it's chaos here!"  and this image attached.  http://chaoticsignal.com/image/animated/HomerRunningGif.gif
13:36 <@Dolemite> I see no problem with that
13:41 <@wilpig> oh and I did a reply to all
13:43 <@aestetix> wiggle
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13:46 <@oddball> Oh hey!  Found a mouse that's perfect for aestetix: http://www.andykurovets.com/mouses/mouses.html
13:46 < GateKeeper> Title: mouses (at www.andykurovets.com)
13:46 <@oddball> (I'd say it's sfw)
13:50 <@wilpig> wow. lol.  
13:50 <@Dolemite> love it
13:50 <@wilpig> if that were real I might buy one
13:54 <@aestetix> what
13:54 <@aestetix> oh wow
13:54 <@aestetix> that's not real?
13:54 <@aestetix> god damnit
14:05 <@brimstone> aestetix: how many hope x tickets were for sale just now?
14:05 <@brimstone> and how fast did they sell out?
14:10 <@aestetix> I'm not sure, need to check
14:10 <@aestetix> I know they sold out in under 2 minutes
14:10 <@aestetix> I think 100 tickets? I could be wrong
14:11 <@brimstone> they did 100 in 2011
14:26 <@Shadow404> vlookup is just about the greatest invention for parsing sheets of data in excel
14:27 <@Shadow404> saved a bunch of processing time on a server by having it build and excel file delimited correctly and processing the query via vlookup instead of checking it line by line against another database
14:43 <@aestetix> why does it need excel at all?
14:43 <@aestetix> or is vlookup part of excel
14:47 < dc0de> vlookup and hlookup are part of excel.
14:47 < dc0de> it's simply a table lookup.
14:48 <@aestetix> oh
14:48 <@aestetix> like a hash table?
14:54 <@Shadow404> sorta, it compares values from one sheet to another and can build an output based on a comparison of the two
14:55 <@Shadow404> using the automation i can do in excel to dramatically speed up a process that the server was doing
14:56 <@Shadow404> makes parsing huge logs more manageable and quicker to get useful data to do other stuff with
14:58 <@aestetix> ohhhh
14:58 <@aestetix> more like a diff?
15:17 <@Dolemite> Damn.  I keep getting surprised at how low LCD prices will go.  50" 1080p LCD TV for $399.
15:23 <@Dolemite> Jeebus.  Target will have a 50" for $229 on Black Friday.
15:23 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: hell yeah, im thinking about getting another tv for the office and a small hd one for the bedroom
15:23 <@Dolemite> I emphasize the word "a" in that last sentence
15:27 <@wilpig> haha
15:27 <@wilpig> so one of the employees is getting a 50" tv cheap
15:27 <@aestetix> wilpig: get your HOPE ticket?
15:28 <@oddball> Dolemite: Yeah... when it comes time to replace my plasma TV, I'm going to spend a hell of a lot less than the $1k I bought it for (which was a hell of a deal at the time)
15:31 <@wilpig> nope
15:36 <@Shadow404> oddball: same, i went the plasma route
15:36 <@Shadow404> when that burns out, lcd will be super cheap
15:43 <@wilpig> aestetix: did you get my hope ticket?
15:43 <@Dolemite> I bought a 42" plasma years ago, and actually bought the extended warranty.  The control board burned out about 30 days before the warranty expiration, and I exercised my option to get a full refund of the original price, rather than a comparable replacement.  I was then able to buy a 72' rear projection HDTV and have enough money left over to buy some camera accessories for my wife's Christmas present.  It's crazy how fast the pric
15:43 < RangerZ1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3S-82eGJE4 LOL
15:43 < GateKeeper> Title: Gun Ownership and Racism Linked In Study - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:44 <@Dolemite> er, 72"
15:44 <@Dolemite> not 72'
15:44 <@Dolemite> But now the 72" is starting to have issues.  It will occasionally just turn itself off, or blank the screen.
15:45 <@Dolemite> It gave me 8 good years, though.  With the amount of Dora the Explorer that has been played on it, I'm surprised it didn't commit suicide earlier.
15:47 <@aestetix> wilpig: I have no hope
15:47 <@aestetix> ticket
15:48 <@wilpig> Dolemite: lol
15:52 <@Mirage> Dolemite: um..lamp?
15:53 <@Dolemite> Mirage: I think it's more likely a control board, because sometimes it will roll the picture.  Turning it off and back on will usually fix it.
15:57 <@Corydon76-home> Shame, I really like those 72' rear projection TVs... especially if you have a home theater to fit it in
16:06 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Yeah... I read that study.  If you read the questions they asked, it's more along the lines of "believes that racisms doesn't affect people as much" than "are racist."
16:07 < RangerZ1> yeah, the video discusses that
16:07 <@oddball> Ah, didn't actually watch the video, but new about the source.
16:09 <@oddball> Oh, and it's the young turk.... so I can guess what his opinion is.
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16:15 < RangerZ> actually you probalby can't, since he agrees with you probably
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16:19 <@oddball> Oh really?  that's a change.
16:20  * oddball actually watches the video
16:23 <@oddball> Ok, for once, dealing with guns, the Young Turk is intelligent.
16:30 < RangerZ> I'm still looking to see where the Constitution says you have the right to sell guns
16:30 < RangerZ> *shrugs*
16:35 <@oddball> It's reasonable to assume that if the constitution says you have the right to own a gun, that you have the right to buy/sell one.
16:36 <@oddball> And I would say it's unreasonable to say that you can own a gun, but not buy/sell one.
16:37 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/frxhqu4pe4x2kgn/2013-11-12%2016.32.37.mp4
16:37 <@Shadow404> whats that pig?
16:38 <@wilpig> coworker's birthday.  we just told her one of our other coworkers was passed out on the floor and to come up now
17:28 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: That rape incident involved Gont?
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17:28 <@Bahhumbug> Really?
17:28 <@Bahhumbug> I've corresponded with him in the past :/
17:28 <@aestetix> Bahhumbug: what?
17:29 <@Bahhumbug> (No, I didn't read the entire article.  Such articles just piss me off.)
17:29 <@aestetix> I don't know the guy involved.
17:29 <@Bahhumbug> The stor from this link: http://georgiaweidman.com/wordpress/guess-you-thought-i-was-someone-to-mess-with/
17:29 <@Bahhumbug> He's pretty well known in the v6 / security arena.
17:30 <@aestetix> ahh ok
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17:59 <@SuMo_D> sup?
17:59 < frsilent> Bahhumbug: I just read the whole blog post
18:01 < frsilent> pretty crazy story & I have to admire the way she's handled it
18:01 < frsilent> all assuming that's the full story, not somebody I know so I can't really have a strong opinion based on just her testimony
18:03 <@Corydon76-home> It's too bad the perpetrator can't fall off a balcony and be permanently paralyzed from the waist down
18:04 <@Corydon76-home> The world continues to benefit from his intellect, and the women of the world can avoid being attacked by yet another predator
18:08 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: I really don't understand why someone would think it's ok to do that shit.
18:09 < frsilent> I doubt he thought it was okay...just that he could get away with it & was an asshole
18:09 < frsilent> also....hard for me to condemn that guy without knowing the whole story
18:09 <@aestetix> oh
18:09 <@aestetix> "It's ok because I can get away with it
18:14 < frsilent> those were two separate statements....lol
18:14 < frsilent> I wasn't defending a rapist douchebag by any means
18:14 <@aestetix> oh yeah I know
18:15 < frsilent> okay good, just making sure hah
18:15 <@aestetix> I mean even if that guy didn't commit rape, it was attempted rape
18:15 <@aestetix> which IMHO is just as bad
18:15 < frsilent> didn't people thinking like 'dafuq??'
18:16 <@SuMo_D> what's also is bad is how people respond to her, with the oh you wanted it shit... but yeah I don't know what shorts out in a guy's head to think that's ok
18:17 <@aestetix> yep
18:17 < frsilent> I would think the coffe pot to the side of the head would be a pretty good indicator of "no the fuck she didn't"
18:18 <@SuMo_D> you would hope...
18:18 <@aestetix> btw
18:19 <@aestetix> it's worth noting
18:19 <@aestetix> I've never heard anything from Georgia that sounds like the Ada Initiative :)
18:20 < frsilent> yeah even in that post she talks about how she disagrees with it
18:21 < frsilent> & refers to her comment about 'god forbid an actual attack happen...'
18:21 < frsilent> in regards to their crying wolf
18:21 < frsilent> which definitely makes me want to believe her story even more
18:21 < frsilent> I hope this shit doesn't just lose steam & die out
18:22 <@aestetix> well
18:22 <@aestetix> I think what AI and others attacking TruceConf are doing
18:22 <@aestetix> is making things too toxic for people like Georgia to speak up
18:22 <@aestetix> And the moment I say anything about that, I get accused of "mansplaining"
18:22 <@aestetix> And if a woman speaks up, she gets accused of being a traitor
18:23 <@aestetix> The whole thing is just fucked.
18:26 < frsilent> more reasons for me to be grateful that I'm male & white =\
18:26 < frsilent> shit sucks
18:27 < frsilent> just not so much for me
18:28 <@SuMo_D> shit sucks for everyone
18:29 <@SuMo_D> but yeah women have a particular form of shit
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18:31 <@SuMo_D> Also yeah, its a hard balance, I mean my best gf and I talk about it we don't usually use the word feminist cause... it just gets intermingled with so much shit that we don't really support... we're really more pro woman, and why can't we just get some sort of respect going on between everybody kind of people
18:32 <@SuMo_D> well that's one of my gf's the other one kinda reminds me of Shanley.... and there's places for both
18:32 < frsilent> agreed
18:33 <@SuMo_D> the system is fucked... and there do need to be people shouting that from the rooftops.... but the difference is she can also sit down shut up and listen to the other side instead of being on a batshit rage the whole time...
18:35 <@Bahhumbug> frsilent: I can't bring myself to read articles like that in full; I get too enraged and inevitably start throwing things.
18:36 <@Bahhumbug> But Gont comes across as an egotistical asshole in general.
18:36 <@SuMo_D> but yeah, I've been there when this shit goes down and dealing with the aftermath... some women do need tigger warnings and safe spaces... and its good its being talked about, but to impose it on a community of as a whole and the way they're going about it... eh... no....
18:36 <@Bahhumbug> So I don't find it outside the realm of possibility that he was actually involved in this type of garbage.
18:42 <@SuMo_D> So... on a different note
18:42 <@SuMo_D> high quality filament on sale at maker shed for 30$ a spool PLA and ABS, bunch of colors... and tha tis awesome
18:43 <@wilpig> my freakin' head is pounding.  wtf
18:46 < frsilent> exceedrin
18:50 <@wilpig> I just popped a couple of whatever the blue one is
18:55 <@SuMo_D> so... anybody got any cool projects going on?
18:55 <@aestetix> nope
18:55 <@wilpig> not really.  I've got more stuff to fix on opendcim does that count?
18:55 <@aestetix> none at all
18:56 <@wilpig> also working on a heatmap at work
18:56 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: I'm too busy being a squid
18:56 <@wilpig> he makes a good point
18:57 <@SuMo_D> Terror squid!
18:57 <@wilpig> still confused on that whole how you're using a keyboard and not destroying it
18:57 < RangerZ> lies, you're an octopus....sy?
18:57 < RangerZ> lol
18:57 <@SuMo_D> cause he's related to a blue ringed octopus
18:57 <@SuMo_D> small and deadly
18:58 <@SuMo_D> color changing and amazin
18:59 <@SuMo_D> also wilpig those count they're projects of a sort
18:59 <@wilpig> there's always the ongoing project of get pig laid too.
19:01 <@wilpig> guess I should go cook dinner
19:01 <@Bahhumbug> You're in the NYC area surrounded by more people than are in the entire state of TN.
19:01 <@Bahhumbug> You should be able to get laid.
19:01 <@SuMo_D> yes
19:02 <@Bahhumbug> SuMo_D: If I ever happen to say anything that you find offensive would you please be so kind as to point it out.
19:02 <@Bahhumbug> sigh
19:02 <@Bahhumbug> s/\/$/\?/
19:03 <@Bahhumbug> Damn it. I can't even get the correction right :(
19:03  * Bahhumbug goes off to pout in a corner
19:03 <@SuMo_D> ha - sure dude
19:04 <@SuMo_D> but just cause its offensive to me, might not mean its offensive overall, and yeah... I donno depends on how I'm feeling how easily offended I get
19:04 < RangerZ> http://www.gamefront.com/star-citizen-crosses-25m-alpha-expanded/
19:04 < RangerZ> “At this rate, Chris Roberts and the Star Citizen team will have the funds to create real-life starships in a few months.”
19:04 < RangerZ> lol
19:04 <@SuMo_D> I've been having a rough time with pain the last two weeks so... this would be the time I'll be more DUDE! WTF
19:06 <@Bahhumbug> I'm generally an abrasive and uncouth asshole.
19:06 <@SuMo_D> all the truthconf and the georgia article got me pretty tweeked too for a minute
19:06 <@Bahhumbug> But if I am offending you (or anyone) I _will_ tone it down.
19:07 <@Dagmar> Absolutely no one will complain if they expected to get a virtual starship and got a real one instead.
19:07 <@Bahhumbug> s/abrasive and uncouth //
19:07 <@Bahhumbug> That's more like it :)
19:07 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: the problem right now
19:07 <@aestetix> Is a lot of people confuse being offended with being hurt
19:07 <@SuMo_D> ha... well... I am too, and since oh you're a chick! and I live in the south sometimes it is even worse....
19:07 <@SuMo_D> that's true aestetix
19:09 <@SuMo_D> and also there's a lot of weird sociology terms I see popping up through a lot of the rager sentiments... that are kinda being a bit twisted, but I think it shows people who are coming from a different background trying to deal with an already established culture and trying to use oh look I'm educated so bam I'm right to couch a lot of that
19:10 <@SuMo_D> or in their way try to control and change maybe?
19:10 <@aestetix> There's an easy way to fix that, shine a mirror at them
19:10 <@aestetix> "I want to look at this subculture and figure out why they aren't normal."
19:11 <@aestetix> If you want to make normal go away, shine a mirror at it
19:11 <@SuMo_D> well I'm talking more about the ada girls, and some of their mouth pieces
19:11 <@SuMo_D> but yeah
19:13 <@SuMo_D> I'm reading your article right now aestetix, the one you posted this morning...
19:14 <@aestetix> oh boy
19:14 <@aestetix> warning, it's meta :p
19:14 <@SuMo_D> relating it to that, it really boils down to authoritarians trying to force their agenda couched in education
19:15 <@SuMo_D> which... not everyone is able to identify as such
19:15 <@SuMo_D> I need more meta in my life :P
19:15 <@aestetix> well RangerZ didn't like it
19:15 <@aestetix> :p
19:16 < RangerZ> aestetix: you realize i have seen meta-meta-meta-meta programming languages right?
19:16 < RangerZ> can't get much more meta than that
19:16 < RangerZ> and written meta-meta-meta languages
19:16 < RangerZ> (its what vandy does)
19:17 < frsilent> SuMo_D: got a pretty cool coding project =) mostly because I'm nice to everyone I meet
19:17 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: the other issue is that Google is forcing a cleansed white suburbanite narrative on everyone
19:18 < frsilent> decent friends / business partners now with a pro gamer that makes video guides for a profit
19:18 < frsilent> & doing a site to expand that business model
19:18 <@aestetix> I mean fundamentally, one issue is
19:18 <@SuMo_D> that sounds great frsilent
19:19 <@aestetix> A kid grows up in upper middle class suburbs, goes to college for computer science, then goes to google and makes 120k a year
19:19 <@aestetix> All of these things reinforce the narrative, and it's never challenged.
19:21 <@SuMo_D> how would you propose challenging it ?
19:21 <@SuMo_D> and to who?
19:21 <@aestetix> That's easy
19:21 <@aestetix> Put LSD in google's water supply
19:21 <@SuMo_D> ha
19:21 <@SuMo_D> they're not as bad as apple... but yeah that might help
19:21 <@aestetix> Or require all employees to spend one weekend a year working at a soup kitchen
19:23 <@aestetix> God I would love to see that. Google employees actually being forced to help the homeless.
19:24 <@SuMo_D> yeah the forced part... might get awkward on all sides lol
19:25 <@aestetix> or you could force them to spend a weekend at noisebridge
19:25 <@SuMo_D> but would b amazing
19:25 <@Dagmar> Not Google employees..
19:25 <@SuMo_D> ha! even better
19:25 <@Dagmar> Stockbrokers and banksters.
19:25 <@Dagmar> Fund managers.
19:25 <@Dagmar> Anyone who makes a living by not doing anything more than pushing numbers around.
19:25 <@aestetix> That would be so great
19:25 <@aestetix> actually
19:26 <@Dagmar> Particularly any place where remuneration is asynchronous with effort
19:26 <@aestetix> I would make google employees clean the bathroom at soup kitchens
19:26 <@SuMo_D> aestetix, you gotta tell me... how did Dmolnar do it all... he's so straight most of the time or maybe that's just what I see as a little sister
19:26 <@aestetix> Do what all
19:26 <@SuMo_D> everything with Noisebridge
19:26 <@SuMo_D> I know it was different in the beginning...
19:26 <@SuMo_D> but still
19:27 <@aestetix> it was a *lot* different
19:28 <@SuMo_D> yeah
19:29 <@SuMo_D> I wonder if he had stayed in the Bay if he'd have stuck with it
19:30 <@aestetix> well
19:30 <@aestetix> from what I understand, Occupy destroyed noisebridge
19:31 <@SuMo_D> yeah I heard that from you and a few others
19:31 <@aestetix> well
19:31 <@aestetix> I stopped being involved around when occupy started
19:31 <@aestetix> so I don't know for sure
19:32 <@SuMo_D> Oh Occupy....
19:47 < RangerZ> best thing about occupy
19:47 < RangerZ> they cost romney the election
19:47 < RangerZ> that introduced the "1%" into common lexicon, then his "47%" video just sealed the deal
19:49 <@Bahhumbug> Um..  sure.
19:49 <@Bahhumbug> Pretty sure Romney lost it _all_ on his own, but *shrug*.
19:50 < RangerZ> nah, think about how much of it was "he's rich", he has an elevator for his cars
19:50 < RangerZ> etc
19:50 < RangerZ> then his taxes
19:50 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.  All on his own.
19:50 <@Bahhumbug> With out without Occupy he was never going to sit in the Oval.
19:50 <@Bahhumbug> sigh,  With or without.
19:50 <@Bahhumbug> I swear, I am stroking out or something today.
19:50 < RangerZ> I don't know, I think it had a bigger, 'less direct' impact than that
19:51 < RangerZ> why?
19:51 < RangerZ> seeing black spots?
19:51 <@Bahhumbug> My typing and grammer is so much worse than normal.
19:52 < RangerZ> ahh, just go get some sleep
19:52 <@Bahhumbug> I got 8.5 hours last night.
19:53 < RangerZ> go get laid?
19:53 <@Bahhumbug> I'm married.
19:53 < RangerZ> or eat a banana
19:53 <@Bahhumbug> Make of that what you will :)
19:53 < RangerZ> did you take out the trash? lol
19:53 <@Bahhumbug> Hmm, potassium.
19:53 <@Bahhumbug> Actually, that's not a bad idea.  I think we have fresh bananas.
19:53  * Bahhumbug goes looking
19:54 <@wilpig> mmm taco salad
19:55 <@wilpig> I should buy some bananas though
19:55  * RangerZ mmm potato stroganoff
19:56 <@wilpig> think i'm gonna make one more bowl of this then chill for the night.
19:57 <@wilpig> there were no tickets and no emails today
19:57 <@wilpig> what a boring day
19:58 <@Bahhumbug> Go break something.
19:58 <@SuMo_D> wilpig didn't you need some boring after your last job?
20:02 <@aestetix> vagina
20:03 <@wilpig> my last job was boring too
20:03 <@wilpig> it was made miserable boring from shitbags like the houseplant
20:06 <@Bahhumbug> I wonder how the houseplant is doing these days.
20:06 <@Bahhumbug> Is anyone remembering to water it?
20:06 <@Bahhumbug> (Preferably by pissing on its leg)
20:07 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: i'm trying to recommend he apply to be Dagmar's shift partner
20:07 <@Bahhumbug> Are you insane?
20:07 <@Bahhumbug> I mean, I get the idea of fomenting unrest and shit.
20:08 <@Bahhumbug> But... are you nuts?
20:08 <@Bahhumbug> Do you _really_ want to be an accessory before the fact?
20:08 < RangerZ> i figure I don't have to go to work for a week or two if a couple buildings are burnt down
20:09 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not sure the damage would be that limited, to be honest.
20:14 <@SuMo_D> Nashville leveled... I can see the headline now
20:14 <@Bahhumbug> Again, I think you're greatly underestimating the scope of damage.
20:15 <@Bahhumbug> Think more of a coast-to-coast event.
20:15 <@Bahhumbug> And by event I mean "life extinction event".
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20:29 <@SuMo_D> lol
20:47 <@Shadow404> wilpig: did you enjoy dune 1984 or 2000 better, my preference has got to be 1984
20:47 <@SuMo_D> Ok... this is offensive to me... http://www.glantz.net/blog/the-anatomy-of-a-graphic-designer#sthash.144KSegz.dpbs
20:47 <@SuMo_D> Helvetica? Really?
20:52 <@SuMo_D> These however are pretty awesome http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1rYyFX/www.thisiscolossal.com/2013/02/the-flexible-paper-sculptures-of-li-hongbo/?_notoolbar
20:52 < GateKeeper> Title: The Bizarre Flexible Paper Sculptures of Li Hongbo - StumbleUpon (at www.stumbleupon.com)
20:53 <@wilpig> Shadow404: I actually liked the reboot that scifi did of it.
20:53 <@SuMo_D> and did you guys see the paper CNC machines they were going to be trying out at staples in the Netherlands awhile back? They were calling them 3D printers, but it was a subtractive not additive process and they were full color
20:54 <@Shadow404> wilpig: ok
20:59 <@Shadow404> wilpig: BUT picard!
21:07 <@Dickie> I received a Starfleet lapel pin in the mail today
21:08 <@Dickie> So I've got that going for me
21:08 <@SuMo_D> aestetix I found a picture for your fauxmanists http://www.designincstudios.com/cinemagraphs/21.gif
21:14 <@Shadow404> Dickie: no shit, i found a decoder ring in my cereal box
21:17 <@Dickie> Check the expiration date on that cereal
21:18 <@Shadow404> i didnt say i ate the cereal did i?
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22:37 < RangerZ> *walks into wilpig's house says "Xbox, display clown porn gallery"*
22:37 < RangerZ> apparently... if he has named it that.... it would work....
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23:46 <@aestetix> you know
23:47 <@SuMo_D> I know nothing
23:47 < northrup> ... that you know
23:47 <@aestetix> at noisebridge, we had a variety show called five minutes of fame
23:47 <@SuMo_D> ok I do know about that
23:47 <@aestetix> I once trolled the audience by getting two sex worker friends of mine to dress as clowns and give a talk on "klowning"
23:47 < northrup> Hah
23:48 <@aestetix> they literally spent five minutes teaching the crowd about the sexual fetish for clowns
23:48 <@aestetix> this included a spanking with a rubber chicken
23:49 < northrup> hahahaha
23:49 <@aestetix> and like
23:49 <@aestetix> these were actual sex workers
23:49 < northrup> when you think about it, why not - it makes as much sense as the furries fetish
23:49 <@aestetix> half the audience thought it was hilarious, the other half kind of shut down
23:50 < northrup> sweet jebus, don't ever talk the half that shut down to a plushies event
23:56 <@SuMo_D> I wonder if you could still get away with that with their new code of conduct
23:58 <@aestetix> I doubt it
23:58 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: that were also at least two occasions in which we played porn at 5mof
23:58 <@SuMo_D> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1381205_10151840876749145_1409323756_n.jpg
23:58 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: their policy was poorly thought through, pushed in, and made several people leave
23:59 <@SuMo_D> you could run around like that
23:59 <@SuMo_D> I"m not sure what the story is behind it, but that was one of my teacher's at art school...
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