--- Log opened Tue Oct 29 00:00:06 2013
00:05 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: i'm gonna try sending you a pokemon here ina  sec with a leppa berry.  should help you out to get them early
00:07 <@Dagmar> Okay.  I'll send back one of those Throh's I got
00:07 <@Dagmar> Stupid cave won't let me go
00:07 <@Dagmar> Shit.  A horde of Mime Jr
00:09 <@Dagmar> One down...
00:10 <@Dagmar> The little fuckers are trolling me with Double Slap
00:11 <@Evilpig> tell me when you're free from them and i'll send this
00:12 <@Dagmar> This little shit is coming back with me
00:12 <@Dagmar> I don't really care for the 5-on-1 battles, just because they take ages
00:13 <@Dagmar> OKay.  I'm out
00:16 <@Dagmar> I had hoped that might work like Ventirlo
00:16 <@Evilpig> yeah no joke
00:16 <@Dagmar> wtf.  It said "Turn off game chat when playing with this friend/"
00:16 <@Evilpig> says you aren't available to trade
00:17 <@Dagmar> Apparently I need to get out of the cave or that chat bugged things
00:17 <@Dagmar> Try once more.  Clearly it doesn't like "no"
00:17 <@Evilpig> there it goes
00:18 <@Evilpig> tell me it shows the pokemon name too
00:18 <@Dagmar> LOL
00:18 <@Dagmar> It does
00:18 <@Evilpig> nice!
00:18 <@Evilpig> the migraine pokemon...
00:18 <@Evilpig> seemed appropriate
00:19 <@Evilpig> that berry will restore 10pp
00:21 <@Evilpig> gonna crash now.  have to be up in 6 hours.  fucked up and fell asleep when I got home too
00:41 <@Dagmar> Ah.  Nite then
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02:57 <@Dagmar> AHA!
02:57 <@Dagmar> http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Nintendo_Zone
02:57 < GateKeeper> Title: Nintendo Zone - 3dbrew (at 3dbrew.org)
02:58 <@Dagmar> Research pays off.  Some people have figured out how to read the filesystem on the 3DS to get the actual list of SSIDs it's looking for
03:10 < RangerZ> Simon Malls
03:10 < RangerZ> opryland malls is that
03:10 < RangerZ> well... its a Simon Mall
03:12 <@aestetix> Dagmar: nice
03:20 < RangerZ> http://cdn.funnie.st/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/awkward_family_photos_part_11_640_27.jpg wow....
03:20 < RangerZ> just wow....
03:21 < RangerZ> ...OHIO...
03:35 <@aestetix> ugh
03:35 <@aestetix> I hate people who are biased against those with a night clock
04:02 <@Dagmar> The damn Kwik Sak was closed
04:05 <@Dagmar> I got a scanner hit on West End just west of 24th ave N.
04:06 <@Dagmar> I've no idea what it is because they recently leveled that block and built new stuff, and Google Street View still shows the construction
04:06 <@Dagmar> Pretty sure it's not the Sprint store using 'attwifi'.
04:08 < RangerZ> http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/28/xbox-one-kinect-third-party-sensor-stand-comes-with-privacy-filter/ HAHAHA
04:09 <@Dagmar> Very strange
04:09 <@Dagmar> I literally *just* collected this data so it's not like it could be wrong
04:09 < RangerZ> basically... people STILL don't want the cameras watching them
04:09 <@Dagmar> It didn't get any streetpass hits tho
04:09 < RangerZ> streetpass hits take a minute from what I understand
04:09 < RangerZ> have you timed how long they take?
04:10 <@Dagmar> They take like 20-25 seconds
04:10 <@Dagmar> It's a matter of when the 3DS notices it more than anything else
04:10 <@Dagmar> I'm using tcpdump over here to watch
04:10 <@Dagmar> It goes online, makes some https queries, and then does a dhcp release
04:13 <@Dagmar> EVENTUALLY I will learn to turn off my goddamn wifi scanning app before I do this crap
04:13 <@Dagmar> *sigh*
04:18 <@Dagmar> I *guess* it's a valid location that no one's noticed yet because it's so new
04:19 <@Dagmar> The 3DS certainly seems convinced that the Nintendo Zone service is available there
04:20 <@aestetix> oh jesus
04:20 <@aestetix> http://www.thedrum.com/news/2013/10/29/fury-facebook-login-requests-government-id-users
04:20 < GateKeeper> Title: Fury at Facebook as login requests “Government ID” from users | The Drum (at www.thedrum.com)
04:22 <@Dagmar> Something isn't right there
04:22 <@Dagmar> They put you through a gauntet of "Identify 10 of your friends from some random fucking profile photos of their pets and children" thing when you're trynig to auth on a new phone
04:37 < RangerZ> aestetix: ohh ok... b/c i read that as 'furry at facebook...." and FURY makes a whole lot more sense
04:44 <@aestetix> nice
04:44 <@aestetix> it pays to get a relevant comment in early
04:44 <@aestetix> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6632533
04:44 < GateKeeper> Title: Fury at Facebook as login requests “Government ID” | Hacker News (at news.ycombinator.com)
05:02 < RangerZ> http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/10/goodbye-sticky-hello-ara.html#!
05:02 < GateKeeper> Title: The Official Motorola Blog: Goodbye Sticky. Hello Ara. (at motorola-blog.blogspot.com)
05:02 < RangerZ> poor BLOX
05:10 < RangerZ> ./s/blox/blocks
05:33 <@aestetix> ugh
05:45 <@aestetix> fucking build script
05:45 <@aestetix> place says their script will automatically work. three hours in....
05:46 <@aestetix> that said, ubuntu 12.04 is SOOOO much better than ubuntu 10.04
05:55 < RangerZ> aestetix: you sure about that
05:55 < RangerZ> or is your sarcasm so 'good' that its hard to tell
05:58 <@aestetix> no it is
05:58 <@aestetix> that was not sarcasm
05:58 <@aestetix> well let me put it this way
05:58 <@aestetix> this build is not quite as badly broken on ubuntu 12.04
05:58 < RangerZ> yeah, but as a workstation, it will drive you crazy
05:58 < RangerZ> little things start to add up
05:59 <@aestetix> lol
05:59 <@aestetix> I only use it as servers
05:59 < RangerZ> then yeah, it does
06:02 < RangerZ> i'm 'really' curious about 14.04/10
06:02 < RangerZ> and their new UI crap
06:04 <@aestetix> heh
06:04 <@aestetix> I always strip that shit away
06:04 <@aestetix> if I'm using linux locally, I usually have fluxbox as a window manager
06:30 < RangerZ> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/motorola-announces-project-ara-a-modular-phone-hardware-platform/
06:30 < GateKeeper> Title: Motorola Announces “Project Ara,” a modular phone hardware platform | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
06:30 < RangerZ> aestetix: well, they are gettting rid of X
06:30 < RangerZ> so... it'll be an issue
06:31 <@aestetix> what
06:31 < RangerZ> and it looks like motorola is teaming with phonebloks
06:31 <@aestetix> in favor of what?
06:31 < RangerZ> aestetix: their own new inhouse solution
06:31 <@aestetix> well
06:31 < RangerZ> LOTS of news on it out there, let me look up name
06:31 <@aestetix> thankfully you can still probably apt-get install it
06:32 < RangerZ> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland
06:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Wayland - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
06:32 < RangerZ> wayland/unity bastard child
06:33 <@aestetix> ugh
06:33 <@aestetix> so the big question
06:33 <@aestetix> how bloated will it be
06:34 < RangerZ> I haven't heard of a single person (outside ubuntu) who is in favor of it
06:34 <@aestetix> if it's assuing 3d
06:34 <@aestetix> that means assuming fancy hardware
06:34 <@aestetix> oh they are moving to Mir
06:35 < RangerZ> err... yeah
06:35 < RangerZ> mir
06:35 < RangerZ> << too tired
06:36 <@aestetix> because I totally want unity with linux
06:36 <@aestetix> also re: bad installer
06:36 <@aestetix> 15-20 minutes to compile
06:37 <@aestetix> when they meant over an hour
06:40 <@aestetix> or ssh timed out
06:45 < RangerZ> http://dscout.com/ara?referral_token=ca0e3d if anyone wants to sign up for a chance for a free phoneblocks/motorola phone, since I was already signed up _before_ the site went live, it might be a good link
06:45 < GateKeeper> Title: dscout + Project Ara · dscout (at dscout.com)
06:52 <@aestetix> ok I'm confused
06:52 <@aestetix> "Also in the VIP room are Spiegel's co-founder, Bobby Murphy, his chief operating officer, and Nick Tran, the head of social media for Taco Bell, who led his company into the realm of ephemeral advertising by launching its Beefy Crunch Burrito on Snapchat. They all lean in for a group selfie."
06:52 <@aestetix> http://www.laweekly.com/2013-10-17/news/snapchat-evan-spiegel/full/
06:52 < GateKeeper> Title: Snapchat Went From Frat Boy Dream to Tech World Darling. But Will it Last? - - News - Los Angeles - LA Weekly (at www.laweekly.com)
06:52 <@aestetix> what the fuck is "ephemeral advertising"?
06:53 < RangerZ> "internet" since it 'isn't real'
06:53 < RangerZ> i saw it called that once before.... but i can't remember where
06:54 < RangerZ> fliers are good because even if they fall off people's cars, etc... they 'might' get picked up by a person because they are 'real'
06:54 <@aestetix> I guess I don't understand how a snapchat "ad" works
06:57 < RangerZ> 1) pay someone to send a pic 2) just normal 'mobile ads'
06:58 <@aestetix> ok so
06:59 <@aestetix> has anyone created a flickr or yahoo mail drive yet?
06:59 <@aestetix> I do not like the idea of using yahoo mail
07:00 <@aestetix> I do like the idea of a free terabyte of online storage though
07:00 < RangerZ> why not just use mega?
07:00 < RangerZ> its like 15gb or something
07:00 <@aestetix> mostly because I want to abuse yahoo
07:02 <@aestetix> if I wanted to be really mean
07:02 <@aestetix> I would write malware that infects someone's computer, uses it as a proxy to create a free yahoo email account, and fill the email account with a terabyte of garbage
07:02 <@aestetix> since I'm pretty sure yahoo is betting that nobody will actualy *use* a terabte of storage
07:03 <@aestetix> and suddenly they'd be getting petabytes of data used up
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07:58 <@Evilpig> but aestetix... yahoo! pays me now.  you want to love them and hug them and and and 
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08:05 <@Shadow404> heh
08:05 <@Shadow404> ok, so....
08:05 <@Shadow404> cards?
08:16 <@Evilpig> maybe...
08:17 <@Shadow404> gonna have to hold on that myself....computer is running slooooowww
08:17 <@Shadow404> at 5 minutes and external mouse and keyboard not even recognized yet, i think outlook is eating up all the cpu time
08:18 <@Shadow404> so im cleaning out my deleted items
08:18 <@Shadow404> wish i could just use linux to grab my email
08:19 <@Shadow404> yeah, 20k items in deleted items....
08:23 <@Evilpig> clean that shit out more often.  :P
08:23 <@Evilpig> I had to do it fairly regularly at vandy
08:23 <@Dickie> pffffft
08:23 <@Dickie> make it clean itself
08:23 <@Dickie> it's 2013
08:25  * Dickie never deletes email
08:25 <@Shadow404> 24 minutes and havent recognized any usb devices
08:25  * Shadow404 is ready to bash his work laptop into tiny pieces and say that a server fell on it
08:37 <@Shadow404> reboot and success
08:59 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  I could go see my dad for christmas for $350 that isn't horrible
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10:00 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
10:04 < RangerZ> what about us bastards?
10:12 <@eryc> good morning dickheads
10:18 <@Shadow404> What up sluts.
10:20 < frsilent> ah the love
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10:22  * Shadow404 gives frsilent an Anthony DiNozzo style slap to the back of the head
10:26 < frsilent> SuMo_D: just ordered this & wanted to share but you weren't on the other day: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465046746/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
10:27 < frsilent> mostly because I'm sick of hearing most people I know say things like "I hate math"
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10:28 <@Shadow404> i hate math
10:29 <@eryc> i hate meth
10:30 < RangerZ> i hate calculus
10:30 < RangerZ> set theory I'll do all day though... *shrugs*
10:33 <@Evilpig> eryc: liar
10:36 < frsilent> at least appreciate math
10:48 < RangerZ> aestetix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tlZFpwqBJI Xbox Live, is going to require you to keep your personal info up to date
10:48 < GateKeeper> Title: Xbox Live News- XBLA Terms of Use Update - Requires Updated Personal Information & Details - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:48 < RangerZ> and will require it be public soon
10:49 <@Shadow404> nah, i appreciate math and all, but still hate doing math
10:50 < RangerZ> isn't that the exact quote you said about sleeping with Corydon76-home ?
10:50 <@Shadow404> im confused, how does that work?
10:50 <@Shadow404> i think that was the exact quote tbh
10:50 < RangerZ> Shadow404: nah, i appreciate 'sleeping with Corydon76-home' and all, but still hate 'sleeping with Corydon76-home'
10:51 <@Shadow404> yeah, he hogs the sheets, its annoying
10:51 < RangerZ> ahh, I figured he snored
10:51 < RangerZ> but notlarry dutch ovens
10:52 <@Shadow404> yeah, like a freight train, headphones work well
10:52 <@Shadow404> or if that doesnt work, white noise from a jet engine
10:53 <@Shadow404> which annoys me.....why do people buy houses right next to an active airport and then complain about noise from landing/taking off aircraft?
10:55 <@Mirage> Shadow404: because it's their right?
10:56 <@Shadow404> sigh, they should have to sign a waiver during their house closing regarding living within a 5mi radius
10:57 <@Corydon76-home> I don't hog the sheets or snore.
10:57 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-home: so who was that in our bed?
10:57 <@Corydon76-home> If I slept with you, you'd know it... :-P
10:58 <@Shadow404> a hangover and sore ass?
10:58 <@Corydon76-home> You'd walk with a limp
10:59 <@Evilpig> i'm not limping and I was definitely asleep in your bed
11:00 < RangerZ> pigs have more flexible hips
11:00 < RangerZ> that helps
11:00 < RangerZ> thats why female hips are different than guys
11:00 <@oddball> Shadow404: Because their special snowflakes.
11:00 <@oddball> People do the same thing with gun ranges, then try to get the gun range shut down.
11:02 <@Shadow404> oi, so cards against humanity??????
11:04 <@oddball>  /me is not used to this "Cards Against Humanity when the sun's up and no alcohol" thing.
11:05 <@Shadow404> yeah
11:06 <@Shadow404> oddball: yeah, even your /me is off
11:06 <@oddball> see?!
11:06 <@Shadow404> at least you can fix on of those
11:06 <@Shadow404> *one
11:06 <@Shadow404> and then close the blinds or go into a windowless office and turn off the lights
11:06 <@oddball> Yeah... but people get really upset when you blow up the sun.
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11:46 <@Evilpig> oddball: just for the record i'm all for blacking out the sun, not so sure on outright destroying it
11:47 <@Evilpig> there'd be a shockwave to deal with, gravity implications, etc
11:47 <@oddball> Yeah... but then you're copying an evil scheme of Mr Burns...
11:49 <@Evilpig> I'm all about building a dyson sphere around the earth, so not really a dyson sphere but similar idea
11:50 <@Evilpig> i'm kinda tired.
11:51 <@Dagmar> Wheee
11:56 <@Evilpig> from the fucking obvious department.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24528383
11:56 < GateKeeper> Title: BBC News - Why is broadband more expensive in the US? (at www.bbc.co.uk)
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12:12 <@oddball> Same reason cell phone companies charge us for text messaging... because they can.
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12:38 <@Evilpig> they charge you to not show your number on caller id.... because they can
12:38 <@Dagmar> lack of oversight and competition
12:47 <@Shadow404> yeah, im sick of comcast and att in my area, but they are the only two providers worth using out here
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13:23 <@Shadow404> i wonder if i should trigger the outdoor alarm siren to sound when the doorbell rings on halloween night...should make for some fun, especially if i setup the infared video cam on the front door
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13:40 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: game
13:40 <@Shadow404> ....
13:43 <@Evilpig> working
13:43 <@Shadow404> so am i, but you dont see that stopping me
13:49 <@Evilpig> i;m working above racks without a laptop though
13:50 <@Shadow404> okies....ill let it slide this once then
13:50  * Shadow404 squints his eyes
13:51 <@Evilpig> yes it can happen
13:57  * Evilpig is mocking israeli's for not eating pork, especially bacon
13:58 <@Evilpig> i'm also wearing my "bacon is meat candy" shirt
14:21 <@Evilpig> everytime I see this I have to laugh.  https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/1377993_10151952950575239_16868431_n.jpg
14:22 <@Evilpig> right now at Tumblr HQ.... http://tumblr.jeremyjohnstone.com/post/65446230597/japanese-kitkat-explosion
14:22 < GateKeeper> Title: 19 flavors of Japanese Kit Kats down in 9W… Come... | Jeremy Johnstone (at tumblr.jeremyjohnstone.com)
15:20 <@Shadow404> holy crap.....remember that 850billion bank bailout fund?
15:20 <@Shadow404> thats greater than the running budget over the entire 50year lifespan of nasa
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15:25 <@Dagmar> This is why we there was rioting
15:34 <@SuMo_D> looks cool frsilent :)
15:35 <@SuMo_D> yeah I think a few of the schools have mindstorm teams, but yeah, our program is focusing more on raspi and arduino
15:36 <@SuMo_D> whatever keeps the kids (and adults) interested and is understandable right?
15:37 <@oddball> Shadow404: You mean that bailout that had zero oversight, and doesn't really seem to have done anything other than make the "too big to fail" banks bigger?
15:42 <@Dagmar> If ever such a thing happens again, I'm driving to DC.  I'll pick up a pitchfork and a tiki torch along the way
15:48 <@Shadow404> im finding a way out of this failing country, i need to get my certifications
15:48 <@Shadow404> oddball: yes
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16:21 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: only place that is more desirable is Canada
16:22 <@Corydon76-home> England doesn't have freedom of speech, freedom of press, or guns.
16:23 <@Corydon76-home> In fact, anywhere else in the world other than the 3rd world, and you won't have guns.
16:23 <@Shadow404> Canada is too far cold to most of the year
16:23 <@Shadow404> yeah, well legally
16:23 <@Corydon76-home> That's what keeps me out of Canada, as well
16:23 <@Shadow404> and believe it or not, guns arent a priority
16:24 <@Corydon76-home> And Canada is far too peaceful to consider expanding southward
16:25 <@Evilpig> if they expanded down then they wouldn't be america's hat anymore
16:32 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: balaclava?
16:36 <@Dagmar> @#$@
16:36 <@Dagmar> Apparnetly you can stack fruit in AC:NL
16:37 <@Evilpig> why would you want to?
16:39 <@Dagmar> Because you can sell it
16:40 <@Dagmar> I didn't know you could stack it, so I've been bringing back like 14 fruits per trip
16:40 <@Dagmar> ...as opposed to over 120 fruit.
16:41 <@Dagmar> I can haul back 360 fruit from the island at one go
16:42 <@Evilpig> I still just don't get the point in that game.  it is the sims right?  essentially?
16:44 <@Dagmar> The sims doesn't let you crossbreed flowers
16:44 <@Evilpig> I can't keep my real plants alive. not sure I would want to fail on an electronic one too. lol
16:45 <@Dagmar> For one thing, they don't die unless you run over themat full speed
16:46 <@Dagmar> Basically, it's a _stress-free_ video game
16:47 <@Shadow404> what game is this?
16:47 <@Shadow404> ac:nl?
16:47 <@Evilpig> animal crossing: new leaf
16:48 <@Shadow404> eek, looks like a kids game?
16:48 <@Shadow404> the blockheads is a good port of the minecraft genere for smartphones
16:48 <@Shadow404> thats my stress free entertainment there
16:49 <@Shadow404> and you can que multiple time consuming tasks for the character to complete so you can get work done rather than managing them the whole time
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17:26 <@Mirage> Oh joyous fun!  Just spent yet another wasted ~1h of my life fighting with Comcast Business trying to get them to make everything right.
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17:27 <@Mirage> My fav part was where 'Steve' was trying to convince me that even though I turned in the hardware, moved out of state to an area they don't support, and sold the house that they are in all actuality still providing me services.
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17:28 <@SuMo_D> oh noes... sorry Mirage, that's the worst...
17:29 <@Mirage> That's OK..BoA agrees with me and is quite happy to dispute the additional charges.
17:30 <@Mirage> So..Comcast Business is great..so long as you don't cancel..or, like Wilpig, find out about the horrors of disconnect before you have to do it so that they can't screw you too.
17:35 <@SuMo_D> well where I live we only have ATT - no choices
17:35 <@SuMo_D> but glad BoA is on your side
17:35 <@Mirage> I'm on UVerse now. The service is OK..the hardware is crap.
17:35 <@aestetix> Man I love making the government eat their words
17:36 <@aestetix> http://mail.idecosystem.org/pipermail/taxonomy_idecosystem.org/2013-October/000229.html
17:36 < GateKeeper> Title: [Taxonomy] Anonymous (at mail.idecosystem.org)
17:36 <@Mirage> Whomever came up with the misguided idea that limiting the gateway to one IP per MAC should be shot
17:37 <@Mirage> Of course _everyone_ knows that a computer can only ever have one IP address
17:40 <@SuMo_D> aestetix did you see today's EFF blog? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/online-anonymity-not-only-trolls-and-political-dissidents
17:40 < GateKeeper> Title: Online Anonymity Is Not Only for Trolls and Political Dissidents | Electronic Frontier Foundation (at www.eff.org)
17:41 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: it's Windows; what do you expect?
17:42 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: True.
17:43 <@Corydon76-home> Why the phone company thought it would be a good idea to run a backbone network on Windows, I'll never understand.
17:44 <@Mirage> Aren't the UVerse residential gateway's made by Cisco?
17:44 <@Corydon76-home> The headend is running Windows
17:45 <@Corydon76-home> Coil used to work support for Uverse in San Antonio
17:46 <@Mirage> UVerse in TX/OK added BBC America to the HD line-up on Fri.  That made me very happy.
17:46 <@aestetix> not yet
17:46 <@Mirage> 50th Aniversary Doctor Who 11/23!!!
17:47 <@aestetix> Bazelon clearly does not know what she's talking about.
17:48 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: Have you played with multicast routing lately?  Once upon a time it was working on OpenBSD...but my last attempt was less than optimal.
17:51 <@Corydon76-home> I have not done ANY multicast routing
17:51 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: the stupid in that really hurts
17:53 <@SuMo_D> it starts the discussion though
17:54 <@aestetix> it's just
17:54 <@SuMo_D> the online dater, who wants to meet new people but only reveal her identities after she's determined that potential dates are not creeps.
17:54 <@aestetix> the internet provides this endless stream of idiots who come along spouting that shit
17:54 <@aestetix> it's the online identity version of a fundamentalist christian
17:54 <@SuMo_D> that dumb right?
17:54 <@aestetix> So I've actually run into that example before ;p
17:55 <@SuMo_D> for sure
17:55 <@aestetix> I don't know how it is now, but I've had chats with people on kink websites where as conversation progressed and you trusted them more, you'd reveal more about yourself
17:55 <@aestetix> Like sign a note with an initial, then later expand into a name, etc
17:56 <@SuMo_D> yeah
17:56 <@aestetix> Otherwise you get the creep coming to the fetish party looking for "Rachel" or whatnot
17:56 <@aestetix> way harder to come looking for "that bitch whose name starts with R"
17:56 <@SuMo_D> yep
17:56 <@SuMo_D> for sure
17:57 <@SuMo_D> you had a similar example in one of your powerpoints
17:57 <@aestetix> It works the other way. If you're dating somoene who has a jealous bf, sending them emails under the assumption that their bf will read them....
17:57 <@SuMo_D> I think it was techcrunch banning the trolls?
17:57 <@aestetix> sure
17:59 <@aestetix> or making a statement about sexism without the fauxminists ripping you apart for privilege :p
18:00 <@SuMo_D> yar
18:08 <@Dagmar> Oohhh I like that word
18:08 <@Dagmar> fauxminists...
18:10 <@SuMo_D> he says it several times a day? this is the first you're noticing it?
18:13 <@aestetix> it's better than the word I was using before (harpies(
18:14 <@aestetix> I figure if they can use "mansplain" I can use "fauxminist"
18:15 <@SuMo_D> I think its an apt description
18:15 <@SuMo_D> in some cases
18:16 <@SuMo_D> so what makes a true feminist to you aestetix?
18:16 <@aestetix> penises
18:17 <@SuMo_D> ha
18:17 <@SuMo_D> I <3 you
18:31 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Damn striaght
18:31 <@aestetix> http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/tami-erin-pippi-longstocking-star-releases-sex-tape-article-1.1500117
18:31 < GateKeeper> Title: Tami Erin, former 'Pippi Longstocking' star, releases sex tape to X-rated video market - NY Daily News (at www.nydailynews.com)
18:32 <@Corydon76-home> SuMo_D: For starters, someone who doesn't deny that trans women are really women.
18:32 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: that is a good start
18:32 <@SuMo_D> yes!
18:32 <@SuMo_D> trans women ARE women for sure
18:33 <@aestetix> what about trans-neutral
18:33 <@Dagmar> I couldn't care less
18:33 <@SuMo_D> people who don't get that its hurtful to say they aren't... are jerks
18:33 <@aestetix> I know someone like that, born a woman, and they don't want either gender
18:33 <@SuMo_D> people should be allowed to self identify
18:33 <@Corydon76-home> I'd honestly be in favor of gender-neutral restrooms
18:33 <@Dagmar> The only person whose business gender is, is _that_ person, and probably whoever they're fucking
18:33 <@SuMo_D> yes, I don't get what the big deal is with gendered restrooms... so dumb
18:33 <@Corydon76-home> Get rid of the distinction in public policy and leave it at that.
18:34 <@aestetix> http://jezebel.com/things-to-think-about-that-catfish-vagina-thing-in-the-1453593568
18:34 <@Dagmar> No.
18:34 <@Dagmar> I disagree.
18:34 <@Dagmar> Having had to clean bathrooms at a theatre before, women are fucking savages in there.
18:34 <@Dagmar> Keep the men's room clean
18:34 <@Corydon76-home> SuMo_D: Every argument I've seen in favor of gendered restrooms comes down to the idea that men are uncontrollable animals.
18:34 <@aestetix> I'm in favor of bathrooms where you don't have to hear everyone else's business
18:34 <@Dagmar> You go into the men's room at a theatre, it's clean, because someone cleaned it a few days ago
18:35 <@Dagmar> Women's room?  Toilet paper everywhere.
18:35 <@Dagmar> It was cleaned two hours ago.
18:35 <@SuMo_D> yeah... I'm hoping the myth of the uncontrollable manimal will die this generation...
18:35 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: well, there's also the issue that some folks think rage/aggression needs to go away
18:35 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I wish it were that simple.  In the men's room, there's piss on the floor in front of the urinal.
18:36 <@Corydon76-home> Like, really?  If your aim is that bad, go sit down in a stall
18:36 <@Dagmar> That happens more often in the women's room
18:36 <@SuMo_D> aestetix, I'm not saying that needs to die.. i have a lot of natural aggression... and I think its fine
18:36 <@SuMo_D> its more like the older women telling me I shouldn't hang out with men cause ya know... bad things will happen
18:37 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I think that Erin news item is fake
18:37 <@aestetix> which news item?
18:37 <@aestetix> oh
18:37 <@aestetix> the pipi longstocking thing
18:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah
18:37 <@Dagmar> It should be coming up in Bing searches by now if it were out
18:37 <@SuMo_D> the women's toilet paper everywhere thing int he restrooms is cause of the fear of sitting on public toilets - see... fear again... that people need to get over
18:38 <@Corydon76-home> SuMo_D: mythbusters proved that the toilet seat is typically the cleanest thing in the restroom
18:38 <@Corydon76-home> The doorknob leading out is FAR dirtier
18:39 <@SuMo_D> for sure
18:41 <@Dagmar> aesteix: Nevermind.  It's real
18:41 <@Corydon76-home> But yeah, unisex restrooms.  I think the way to go there is to go with single-person restrooms
18:42 <@aestetix> I'm down with that.
18:42 <@Corydon76-home> If you need a place to reapply makeup, have a lounge adjoining
18:42 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I look at both Bing and Google for these sorts of things, considering that Im waiting for Microsoft to get slammed for retaining links to pirated content while reporting them to Google for removal from the indexes
18:42 <@aestetix> I'm not down with multi-stall unisex restrooms. I don't like multi-stall as it is.
18:43 <@aestetix> I really could do without hearing someone with poo issues.
18:43 <@Corydon76-home> I'm fine with multi-stall if people would learn what their digestive systems will not handle and STOP EATING THOSE THINGS.
18:44 <@Corydon76-home> If you can't handle dairy, stop eating ice cream.
18:44 <@Corydon76-home> Or take a supplement
18:44 <@SuMo_D> lol yeah... I wish it were that easy sometimes
18:44 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... cancer made my GI tract special...
18:44 <@aestetix> A lot of european countries are like that, iirc
18:45 <@aestetix> they are a bunch of single person bathrooms
18:45 <@Corydon76-home> Well, and most European countries also segment the shower/bath away from the toilet
18:45 <@aestetix> Regardless of gender, I do not want to hear someone struggling with a turtlehead.
18:46 <@Corydon76-home> That would be an issue of soundproofing
18:46 <@aestetix> If soundproofing were good, most of my objections would go away.
18:46 <@aestetix> It never is though :/
18:46 <@Corydon76-home> Single stall bathrooms won't get rid of that unless the vents are separately ducted
18:47 <@Dagmar> So what you really wnat is individual, unisex bathrooms, with independent ventilation and noise dampening
18:47 <@aestetix> Because everyone wants to watch their friend go into the toilet and then listen to them drop a row of ducks
18:47 <@aestetix> Dagmar: that would be awesome
18:48 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I don't really care whether it's multi-stall or single-stall.
18:48 <@aestetix> I especially don't want to hear a painful moan followed by a liquid explosion
18:49 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: While I find the topic gross, your descriptions are hilarious
18:49 <@SuMo_D> agreed
18:50 <@aestetix> Or hearing the machine gun announcement bounce off the ceramic bus, followed by the rattle of the toilet paper and the inevitable round of wipes
18:51 <@aestetix> er, porcelain
18:51 <@aestetix> Bathroom experience as a 21 gun salute
18:53 <@aestetix> Then you get out of the stall and your friend greets you with "welcome home, soldier"
19:52 <@Evilpig> interesting...  freenode drop?
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19:54 < Evilpig_> had to secure my open access point a hair
19:54 < Evilpig_> kept seeing an ipod and a blackberry connect to it
19:54 < Evilpig_> who the fuck has a blackberry anymore?
19:54 <@Dagmar> hehe
19:55 < Evilpig_> it's still open, but now it can't get to my private network.  later tonight i'll probably run the webtraffic on it through squid for added entertainment
19:56 <@Dagmar> Just turn on the mac whitelist
19:56 < Evilpig_> running an open AP gives me a certain level of ... deniability
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20:09 <@aestetix> ok so I have a dumb question
20:09 <@aestetix> a bloom filter... is that just taking a value, marking a hash of it, and then calculating a value from that hash somehow?
20:09 <@aestetix> and then turning on a flag in a set where that hash would be?
20:11  * Evilpig_ shrugs
20:15 <@aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947gWqwkhu0
20:15 < GateKeeper> Title: The Bloom filter - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:18 <@aestetix> wow that video is boring
20:21 < Evilpig_> Dagmar: have you started getting my custom messages yet?
20:23 <@SuMo_D> strages I was cleaning up earlier and found a little oragami dinosaur that traveled home with me from PN made me smile :)
20:23 <@SuMo_D> he's set to guarding the cable bin now
20:31 < Evilpig_> clearly the two most abused cats in history. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pz9xf3gsowp667z/2013-10-29%2020.27.52.jpg
20:31 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-10-29 20.27.52.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
20:53 <@SuMo_D> so cute
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20:58 < Evilpig_> http://www.morphsuits-canada.com/haunted-mansion-portrait-digital-dudz-iphone-tshirt  <-- bad ass
20:58 < GateKeeper> Title: Haunted Mansion Portrait Shirt (at www.morphsuits-canada.com)
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21:05 <@SuMo_D> OOoo these could be fun http://us.moo.com/nfc/
21:05 < GateKeeper> Title: NFC Business Cards, new from MOO (at us.moo.com)
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21:22 <@Dagmar> The only problem is by the look of it they're just a fancy way of delivering a URL
21:24 <@SuMo_D> that's just the look of it... need to actually get some in hand... moo usually does really nice print work so at least they'll be purty
21:24 <@SuMo_D> see what they can do and if they can be hacked into something else
21:27 <@Dagmar> NFC chips are a lot stupider than you think
21:28 <@Dagmar> If I'm reading this correctly, these are literally just small buffers for UTF-8 strings.
21:28 <@Dagmar> THe more complex ones are _not_ cheap
21:28 <@Dagmar> http://kimtag.com/s/nfc_tags
21:28 < GateKeeper> Title: NFC Tags Explained (at kimtag.com)
21:29 <@SuMo_D> sweet thx
21:34 <@Dagmar> These fuckers need to get their store up and running  tho http://store.nfcring.com/
21:34 < GateKeeper> Title: NFC Ring (at store.nfcring.com)
21:36 <@Dagmar> Also, this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/20/google_embraces_nfc_security_tokens/
21:36 < GateKeeper> Title: Google tries putting an NFC ring on it: Bonking will keep you SAFE • The Register (at www.theregister.co.uk)
21:53 <@SuMo_D> interesting
22:22 < Evilpig_> nice.  I have a simple web interface working now.  I just need to make sure apache is set to autostart and this portable 3ds streetpass relay should be good to go
22:29 < Evilpig_> hey Dag, any reason why dnsmasq wouldn't be resolving shit I put in /etc/hosts?
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22:53 < strages> SuMo_D: exellent :) that's why I leave them places
22:53 <@SuMo_D> :) yah I think I remember you giving me this one
22:53 <@SuMo_D> but I donno it was PN there was alcohol...
22:53 < strages> these things happen
22:54 < Evilpig_> strages: that's how we explain notlarry or Dickie 
22:55 <@SuMo_D> :)
22:56 < strages> Evilpig_: yeah I know
22:58  * Dickie belches
23:01 <@SuMo_D> strages any cool projects going on?
23:02 < Evilpig_> they're secretly working on genetic cloning so they can make an army of Dickies
23:03 < strages> treadle computer, solar wifi mesh, DIY VR rig (no Occulus Rift)
23:03 <@SuMo_D> OOooo
23:04 <@Dickie> An army of Dickies?
23:04 <@Dickie> s/army/orgy/
23:04 <@Dickie> Let's be serious.
23:04 < strages> you're right
23:04 <@Dickie> you're sexy
23:04 <@Dickie> ;-)
23:05 < strages> we've talked about this
23:05 < Evilpig_> I NEED AN ADULT!
23:07 <@Dickie> I'll get'cha
23:07 < strages> one of these days, yes you will
23:08 <@Dickie> as long as we know the score
23:08 < Evilpig_> i'm over 1000 miles away now.  i feel safe
23:08 <@Dickie> Fool
23:13 <@SuMo_D> you are never safe
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23:31 <@oddball> huh... apparently CenterIM stores your password in plain text.
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