--- Log opened Tue Oct 22 00:00:01 2013
00:01 <@Dagmar> I may hve to install Ubuntu Server on this damn thing
00:01 <@Dagmar> Gateway Profile 4
00:02 <@Dagmar> One of those weird kiosk machines I bought seven or so years ago
00:02 <@Dagmar> I installed a 2200ABG card in it
00:04 <@Dagmar> Hmm... maybe it'll work
00:06 <@Dagmar> Jesus I think it's still running Ubuntu 9
00:07 <@Evilpig> lol
00:17 < RangerZ> "Proven experience programming in previous and current versions of VB 6.0"
00:17 < RangerZ> jesus... VB still exists
00:17 < RangerZ> and 6 at that
00:25 <@SuMo_D> ideas.... on what to do with a troll that won't die... and likes to pop up periodically?
00:25 < RangerZ> what type of context?
00:25 < RangerZ> website, IRL meeting
00:25 <@SuMo_D> well... we dated like... 3 dates 20+ years ago
00:26 <@SuMo_D> and he pops up every once and awhile and is like hey!
00:26 <@SuMo_D> on IM
00:26 <@SuMo_D> which gets blocked, but then yeah... he keeps changing his IM/emails and doing it...
00:27 <@Dagmar> Start spamming him
00:27 <@SuMo_D> I've already explained... yeah... dude.. you were horrible... and kinda really mean... I don't really like you or ever want to think about you again. Thx bye - but yeah... just got another
00:27 < RangerZ> easy, just say you are your new (boyfrield/girlfriend) and that you're getting married
00:27 <@SuMo_D> yeah... done that
00:27 <@SuMo_D> he doesn't care about the other
00:27 <@SuMo_D> Dagmar might have it better
00:28 < RangerZ> maybe
00:28 < RangerZ> sign him up for necrophiliacs anon
00:28 < RangerZ> etc
00:28 < RangerZ> or nambla
00:29 < RangerZ> or w/e that acronym is
00:29 <@SuMo_D> I got the 12 steps apology email from him at one point.... The sorry I was on so much coke and extacy - which was nice... but yeah... then still told him ok... cool fuck off now
00:29 <@SuMo_D> don't those lists require a verification link?
00:29 < RangerZ> not always
00:29 < RangerZ> worth a shot
00:29 <@SuMo_D> yeah... I think he tried to steal my identity once too
00:30 <@SuMo_D> he's really just a disease
00:30 < RangerZ> for mailing lists, i don't think it does
00:30 < RangerZ> for lots of sites
00:30 <@SuMo_D> good idea
00:31 <@Dagmar> No, I mean go gram some IM library tools like Pidgin has and connect his ass straight to cleverbot
00:31 <@SuMo_D> even better
00:31 <@Dagmar> let him jabber at that fucking thing, call it a day
00:32 <@SuMo_D> that's what I was thinking of what you meant first...
00:34 < RangerZ> yeah, I'd do both probably
00:34 < RangerZ> but the cleverbot idea would be amusing logs to go through later
00:34 <@SuMo_D> he's such a pshyco... he just pops back up randomly and is like TALK TO ME... OH YOU DON'T WAN'T TO YOU'RE A HORRIBLE PERSON.... I get really tired of dealing with other people's mental problems sometimes
00:36 < RangerZ> then yeah... a "sink" would be best for him
00:36 < RangerZ> "sink" as in black hole that eats all his IMs
00:36 <@SuMo_D> Well he's blocked for now....
00:38 < RangerZ> though a nice cleverbot plugin for pidgin might be fun to just have laying around
00:38 < RangerZ> I might look into that myself, lol
00:38 <@SuMo_D> yes
00:40 <@SuMo_D> I had another that wasn't quite as bad... I mean he wasn't a jackass... he just kinda disappeared - but yeah reappeared 2 1/2 years later after the big C and all and just was like... errr I was too scared, now I want you and would send me sappy love songs on IM one after another... to which... I was like... ummm... no... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpwA_ISeZqc over and over
00:40 < GateKeeper> Title: I Ejaculate Fire - Dethklok - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:41 <@SuMo_D> which eventually worked
00:41 < RangerZ> lol
00:42 < RangerZ> i've lucked out, most of my exs have either just broken it off entirely, and even then it was mostly clean breaks, where neither hated each other
00:42 < RangerZ> and no psychos like that nut-case
00:43 <@SuMo_D> yeah... I was barely 18? In a new city, never been asked on a date... was bound to go badly
00:43 <@SuMo_D> I just unblocked him for a minute and posted in that video and reblocked him
00:44 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... the kid seriously is fucked...
00:44 <@SuMo_D> he supposidly never remembers anything but yeah who knows.... this is what happens when Drugs get used badly - don't be that guy guys
00:47 <@SuMo_D> yeah, as far as long term/serious I have one good and one nutty one... nutty one is really more due to his PTSD (at least I like to think so) but yeah... you can't stay with people who drag you back when you want to move forward - Wish him all the best... just yeah... he crossed a line after I bent over backwards to help him (we were friends for about 1 1/2 years after we broke up and yeah... I was like... yeah..
00:47 <@SuMo_D> .. nope.. done
00:48 <@SuMo_D> anyway blah blah blah... thanks guys
00:50 < RangerZ> np
00:51 < RangerZ> but more dagmar than me
00:51 < RangerZ> but he's busy catching pocketMonsters
00:52 < RangerZ> LOL @ LinkedIn , it 'linked' me to the Facebook Recruiter that cold called me like 3 years ago
00:52 < RangerZ> 'sure' whatever, just adds to my number
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00:57 < RangerZ> QUESTION TIME: what is the best crossplatform cross browser password management system? Last Pass?
00:57 < RangerZ> and is there one where you don't need a website account? just a file?
00:58 <@SuMo_D> hmmm... I donno... I know a few people that use kasperkey and they seem to like it
01:00 < RangerZ> yeah... I don't like Kaspersky labs, lol
01:00 < RangerZ> I have no "reason" but I always get a 'weird' feeling whenever I'm reading any of their articles or papers
01:01 < RangerZ> their founder being funded by the KGB to go to college, has always just sat funky with me
01:01 < RangerZ> but i'm not one to talk... DARPA has funded my schooling (grad school at least)
01:09 <@SuMo_D> lol
02:39 < RangerZ> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/release-open-source-community-source-code-healthcaregov-specifically-all-code-written-cgi-federal/XvBXgZWx
02:39 < GateKeeper> Title: Release to the open source community the source code to healthcare.gov, specifically all code written by CGI Federal. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government (at petitions.whitehouse.gov)
02:39 < RangerZ> interesting
02:44 < RangerZ> jason's gotta be pissed http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/isohunt-shuts-down-a-day-early-to-avoid-becoming-part-of-online-archive/
02:44 < GateKeeper> Title: isoHunt shuts down a day early to avoid becoming part of online archive | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
02:44 < RangerZ> he takes that stuff personally
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02:54 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGOCnciYmig
02:54 < GateKeeper> Title: Raging Gamer Chews On Friends Penis Like A Sandwhich - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:54 < RangerZ> WTF
03:27 <@aestetix> vagina
06:18 < RangerZ> http://rt.com/usa/google-uproxy-uncensored-encrypted-internet-524/
06:19 < RangerZ> This would be good for even remoting through your home for web browsing (not media streaming, etc)
06:19 < RangerZ> unless you have google fiber ;)
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07:20 < Shadow404> waz up sluts
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07:22 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:25 < Shadow404> speaking of, hey Dolemite
08:03 < Shadow404> "if the only thing that comes off at the end of a mask party is your mask, then you've done something wrong" -Most Interesting Man
08:03 <@Dolemite> Fuck Citrix with a giant fucking fuck stick.
08:03 < Shadow404> what did it do to you now?
08:04 <@Dolemite> "enterprise grade" my ass.  Appliances with single power supplies and network ports on the front instead of the back.
08:05 <@Dolemite> If something only has a single power supply, it is not enterprise grade.  QED.
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08:14 < Shadow404> that should be a given
08:14 < Shadow404> and yeah, equipment with the network ports only on the front are annoying
08:14 < Shadow404> makes for a messy cabinent
08:16 <@Dolemite> The main problem with front network ports is that you have to waste a U to give them a path to the rear where the switch is.
08:16 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGOCnciYmig just so everyone sees this... reposting, lol
08:16 < GateKeeper> Title: Raging Gamer Chews On Friends Penis Like A Sandwich - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
08:20 <@Dolemite> bah.  reboot required after software upgrade.  bbl.
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09:01 < Shadow404> welcome home.....issues during reboot?
09:02 <@Dolemite> Well I had to go make some hot chocolate
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09:02 <@Dolemite> and then ran into someone that I needed to talk to
09:02 <@Dolemite> then the phone rang
09:02 <@Dolemite> and I needed to enter another work order
09:03 <@Dolemite> So, you know, IRC is not the highest priority
09:03 <@Dolemite> Facebook is!
09:07 < Shadow404> no, twitter
09:12 <@Dolemite> I find twitter about as useful as myspace
09:12 < Shadow404> hey, my band is on myspace, screw you
09:12 < Shadow404> (sarcasm)
09:22 <@Dagmar> It's that time of year again apparently
09:22 <@Dagmar> Sudden attacks of allergies, and http://www.wtvf.com/Global/story.asp?S=7067657
09:22 < GateKeeper> Title: Vandy Student Poses In Playboy - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.wtvf.com)
09:23 < Shadow404> Dagmar: yeah, my gf is getting that alot, it comes and goes for like an hour
09:24 <@Dagmar> My mouth tastes like something died in it this morning
09:25 < Shadow404> thats why you never snuff dive a hooker
09:27 <@Corydon76-home> I hope she has plans to become a housewife.  Doing porn can be a serious career-limiting move.
09:31 <@Dolemite> Playboy != Porn
09:31 < Shadow404> agreed on that
09:31 <@Dolemite> It's not like she had a rapper pee on her while a video camera was recordnig
09:31 < Shadow404> maybe softporn
09:32 <@Corydon76-home> I doubt most places where it's a career-limiting move to do porn would make a distinction for posing in Playboy
09:33 <@Dagmar> Playboy barely even counts as a nudie mag anymore
09:33 <@Dagmar> The places that would get uppity about it would likely never know
09:33 <@Corydon76-home> though I can think of specific areas where it might be an advantage:  any business where you're going head-to-head against competitors, distractions for your competitors are an advantage
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09:39 <@Dagmar> So moving that database server to a different box of disks helped
09:40 <@Dagmar> ..or at least, it _seems_ to have helped.  A full buisness day of performance data should help be sure
09:40 <@Dagmar> Now to get these dipshits to put _back_ the things they were disabling
09:40 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Among other things, Sean disabled the nightly mysqldumps
09:43 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: time to schedule some MySQL corruption for 2 weeks out
09:43 <@Dagmar> Absolutely not
09:43 <@Dagmar> ...although I'll admit they richly deserve such to happen, they're not forcing me to do something unprofessional.
09:43 <@Dagmar> That's the reason I'm quitting
09:44 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, but we're going to miss your daily detailings of FUBAR
09:44 <@Dagmar> I should have gotten a breather mask on last night before going rooting around through boxes looking for wireless cards
09:51 <@Dagmar> I'm going to strangle someone about this iptables shit tho
09:53 <@Dagmar> Someone has been using the tui configurator as far as I can tell
09:53 <@Dagmar> THis is the third machine I've seen where all the comments have been stripped out of the damn things
09:53 <@Dolemite> So did you turn in your notice?
09:53 <@Dolemite> Or you just plan to soon?
09:53 <@Dagmar> It's getting turned in at the end of the month
09:53 <@Dolemite> Got a new gig lined up?
09:55 <@Dagmar> NOt yet
09:56 < Shadow404> i'd line up one first before turning it in
09:56 < Shadow404> this market is so un-predictable
09:56 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: Absolutely not.
09:56 <@Dagmar> FUck this place
09:57 <@Dagmar> THe only thing me staying there will accomplish will give them more time to come up with manufactured reasons for getting rid of m
09:57 <@Dagmar> e
09:57 <@Dagmar> I am fucking done with being on-call all the goddamn time, adn I do mean ALL the goddamn time
09:57 <@Dagmar> I am fucking done with being ignored when I'm the motherfucker responsible for the equipment, just because I don't lick ass
09:58 <@Dagmar> I am done with the bullshit, and I am done with having a boss who lies more often than he breathes.
09:58 <@Dagmar> If I can transfer to EAI, then great.  If I can't then there will be no love lost on my part.
09:58 <@Dagmar> I am not going to be having a money issue for at leat two years.
09:59 <@Dagmar> I shoudl have walked out of there months ago
09:59 <@Dagmar> The only thing that kept me from doing so was that I was their ONLY admin
10:01 <@Mirage> Dagmar: re: 4am mysqldumps...WTF!
10:01 < Shadow404> if you got flexibility with the income loss, then sure
10:02 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Let that slip to Lacy/Melanie.   He should be crucified for that...as well as anyone in management who allowed/approved it.
10:02 <@Dagmar> Mirage: I jsut sent an email to the group list strongly suggessting people put things back
10:02 <@Dagmar> We'll see if that asshole sits on his thumbs, or better yet, tries to order me to do it
10:03 <@Mirage> Dagmar: run screaming from the building and don't look back.
10:03 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Good idea.  If he doesn't put it back I'll just casually mention it to Lacy
10:03 <@Dagmar> Hell man, on Friday Hogan called me and had me turn off the legato backups because idiots were trying to make the argument that it was slowing the machines down
10:03 <@Dagmar> That lasted all of about two hours until Sublett called the NOC to call me to reenable them
10:04 <@rattle> Don't quit without having another gig lined up.  When resumes come across desks, and the person doesn't have a job, it's usually assumed they were fired or asked to leave.
10:04 <@Dagmar> rattle: I don't have a choice here, man
10:04 <@Dagmar> You've no idea how fucked up this place is
10:04 <@Dagmar> I'll be giving a month's notice, which should be time to get something lined up, but either way I just do not care
10:04 <@rattle> Get something lined up now.
10:05 <@Dagmar> This is the reason I'm trying to just transfer the fuck away from these idiots
10:05 <@Dagmar> DID I MENTION I'M ONLY BEING PAID ~$58K FOR PUTTING UP WITH THIS CRAP
10:05 <@rattle> Even if you have to let performance slip.  "The place I'm working right now is killing me" far better narrative than "The place I worked for was killing me, so I left".  People read it as your not a strategic planner.
10:05 <@Dagmar> There is no reason whatsoever for me to stay
10:06 <@Dagmar> Just saying I was only making $58k will be bad enough.  I'll have to freaking *lie* about that one
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10:06 <@Dagmar> rattle: One, I don't let performance slip if I can help it.  Two, the major issue is that my boss is an asshole who won't amke decisions and I am goddamn sick of being on-call ALL THE TIME
10:07 <@rattle> Don't lie about salary.  It's legal for employers to divulge your salary in background checks, so many do ask.  If you get caught in that lie, odds are your opportunity evaporates.
10:07 <@Dagmar> They have no excuse other than being a pack of assholes for me still being the only person on call
10:07 <@aestetix> oh good Dagmar is pissed at work. Now I know things are back to normal
10:07 <@Dagmar> rattle: So what do you think people are going to make of someone with my experience and skillset only making $58k
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10:07 <@rattle> Don't they have tech recruiters out there?  Find one.  Have them do the leg work looking for opportunities.
10:07 <@aestetix> Dagmar: just say "I prefer not to discuss previous salaries"
10:08 <@Dagmar> This is never going to get any better while I'm in this department.
10:08 <@rattle> They are going to take it that you got screwed, and they can hire you for $70k and you'll be happy about it.
10:08 <@Dagmar> ...and I've wasted enough of my life on thises idiots
10:08 <@Dagmar> rattle: Yes, and fuck being paid less than industry averag
10:09 <@Dagmar> The next motherfucker will pay me the midpoint or they can stick with their half-witted, underskilled imports
10:09 <@rattle> Dag, you're not even in the bottom 10% of the pay range for sysadmins.  The upper 10% breaks $100k.  You don't start hitting mid-sixes until director level management usually.
10:10 <@aestetix> rattle: unless you're in the bay area right now.
10:10 <@Dagmar> rattle: Dude the bottom of the salary range for this position at Vandy is $54k
10:10 <@Dagmar> I'm being paid an insult
10:10 <@rattle> If you want to get your income up, you move for $70k, then again in two years..  Probably can pull $95k-115k..
10:12 <@rattle> And please don't take this the wrong way..  I'm not trying to be a dick..  But if you want to break above $100k, you've got to learn how to be more tactful when it comes to political bullshit.
10:12 <@Dagmar> You are speculating.
10:12 <@Dagmar> I've been utterly _avoiding_ the political bullshit.
10:12 <@Dagmar> All my customer-type people love the hell out of me.
10:13 <@rattle> No, not really.  I've got a lot of experience as a hiring manager.  I've worked with several HR departments.  I know the way this goes.
10:13 <@Dagmar> My problem is that my boss is an idiot, and now they've hired people above me because they clearly want someone who talks a lot of shit and never gets anything serious accomplished
10:14 <@Dagmar> rattle: You have zero knowledge of what's gone on here.
10:14 <@rattle> That's kinda the problem.  You can't "avoid" company politics.  If you're not playing a smart game, you're still subject to someone elses.
10:14 <@rattle> I don't know fuck about Vandy, but I do know how to navigate the tech industry successfully.
10:15 <@rattle> And I learned by fucking up for a loooong time.
10:15 <@Dagmar> Then perhaps you should realize that you can't diagnose something you know nothing about
10:15 <@Dagmar> My position has been tossed back and forth like a damn poker chip
10:16 <@Dagmar> I was transferred back into this department under a man who doesn't even understand the point of change management.
10:16 <@Dagmar> I would never have consented to work under him, had I been _given a choice_
10:16 <@Dagmar> You might as well be arguing that I've done something wrong politically when there were mass-layoffs after the place burned to the ground.
10:17 <@Dagmar> Tehre simply is no job here for intelligent, dedicated individuals.
10:17 <@Mirage> And I immediately tried to get a job w/ another department the SAME DAY we were informed we were being kicked back to ITS and would be reporting to Hogan.
10:17 <@Dagmar> The office has completely lost sight of the fact that their first and primary obligation is to be useful to the users.
10:18 <@Mirage> I also bought a pack of cig's that day...after having been quit for ~3 months.
10:18 <@Dagmar> They have fallen into the age-old trap of a college IT department that's gotten the idea that their only obligation is to mark time and generate reports saying they're doing their jobs.
10:19 <@Dagmar> Oh, and they're actively excluding me from any projects that do come about, opting to leave me as the only on-call person.
10:19 <@Dagmar> If I wasted any more time at this place, I seriously would have to seek psychiatric counseling.
10:20 <@Mirage> Dagmar: you are the only person there who's familiar with all the systems...and noone else WANTS to know about them.
10:20 <@Dagmar> The shit's affecting my health.  I don't sleep through the night anymore, ever.
10:22 <@aestetix> Dagmar: here is a way to fight back: http://www.amazon.com/Fart-Spray-Domestic-Version-Novelty/dp/B000GKXYZ2
10:22 <@Dagmar> aestetix: That's juvenile and amateurish.
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10:23 <@Dagmar> I actually still have a vial of some sulfur extract
10:23 <@Dagmar> It's probably more potent than that entire can
10:23 <@Mirage> Dagmar: everyone would just blame Ham
10:23 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Probably so
10:23 <@Dagmar> This one vial would stink the ENTIRE building
10:24 <@aestetix> Dagmar: so leave it in the room of the person you hate
10:24 <@Dagmar> aestetix: No, this is the sort of thing you dump by the buildings HVAC intake
10:24 <@rattle> My point is simply, don't quit your job without having another one lined up.  You wind up with very little leverage in a job search when you don't currently have a job.
10:24 <@aestetix> Maybe do it on "bring your dog to work" day
10:24 <@rattle> That's fact.
10:24 <@Dagmar> rattle: Not really caring.  It woudl be hard for me to be paid less than I am now
10:24 <@rattle> Vandy sucks, and you should get out.  That's clear.  Just do it strategically.
10:24 <@Dagmar> ...and I am NOT waiting for chest pains to tell me it's time to go.
10:24 <@Mirage> Dagmar: We took out my HS our Sr year with home made stink bombs.
10:25 <@rattle> Just find another job, and leave.  Pretty straight forward.
10:25 <@Dagmar> I've already dicked around enough
10:25 <@Dickie> Hi
10:25 <@Dickie> Oh.
10:28 <@rattle> If I was you, I'd aim to find a place that pays in the $70-80k range, and supports professional development.  Then from day one at new place, start thinking about where you want to move from there in 2 years.  Work a strategic career plan to get yourself at least above $95k..
10:29 <@rattle> If you just leave w/o finding another gig first, and eat away at your savings..  That's just dumb.
10:29 <@Dagmar> No, continuing to tolerate this abuse is dumb.
10:29 <@rattle> Dude, you have to find another job anyway.  Why not start BEFORE you leave your current one?  It's dumb not to.
10:30 <@Dagmar> Why not?  Because I'm already basically circling the fucking drain here.
10:30 <@Dagmar> I am a few bad days away from chronic fatigue
10:30 <@eryc> unemployed people aren't hireable
10:30 <@Dagmar> I have been _trying_ to get this shit sorted for a few weeks now
10:30 <@Dagmar> I am one step away from having to fucking sue the place
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10:31 <@rattle> Ok dude, if you want to guarantee your next job isn't making much more than your current one, and you want to eat away your personal savings in the process..  Do whatever you want.  I don't have a horse in your game.
10:31 <@Dagmar> Well, I'm glad I have your blessing then
10:32 <@Dagmar> I can't even realistically go out on a fucking date because I get goddamn calls almost every night from the NOC
10:33 < RangerZ2> just look for another job then
10:33 <@rattle> So find another job and leave!
10:33 < RangerZ2> fuck, wilpig did
10:33 <@Dagmar> I HAVE BEEN DOIJNG THAT MOTHERFUCKERS
10:33 <@Dagmar> For fuck's sake
10:34 <@Dagmar> This place is a complete assfuck festival and the time for trying to work it out is OVER
10:34 <@Dagmar> I have to fucking LEAVE.
10:34 < RangerZ2> then put in your 2 weeks
10:34 < RangerZ2> *shrugs*
10:34 <@Dagmar> Get that through your fucking skulls or at least have the sense to shut the fuck up
10:34 <@rattle> Don't work it out.  Find another job, then leave.  In that order.
10:34 <@Dagmar> No.
10:34 <@Dagmar> Absolutely fucking not.
10:34 < frsilent> it can only be as bad as you let it be man
10:35 <@Dagmar> If I can't find another job before I start having chest pains and blackouts, THEN WHAT MOTHERFUCKER
10:35 < frsilent> their worries are no longer yours
10:35 <@Dagmar> I've already had one near-blackout
10:35 < frsilent> & goose frabba
10:35 <@Dagmar> That's all the further fucking warning I need.
10:35 <@Dagmar> This isn't some casual situation.  this shit is AFFECTING MY HEALTH.
10:35 <@Dagmar> My job status will mean FUCK ALL if I wind up in the goddamn hospital because I didn't leave before I started taking damage.
10:36 <@Dagmar> IS THIS FUCKING CLEAR ENOUGH
10:36 < frsilent> I'm just not sure why you let it stress you out so much
10:36 <@Dolemite> Perhaps once you turn in your notice you can also turn off your 'give a damn'
10:36 <@Dagmar> frsilent: Because strangely, I actually still give a shit if I am doing good work, getting things working correctly, and am generally keeping the systems under control
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10:37 <@Dagmar> I've tried to be a lazy asshole and it just doesn't work
10:37 <@aestetix> You know
10:37 < frsilent> but then you're indebting your health for their benefit
10:37 <@aestetix> It sounds like you should try to get Skydog to take your job
10:37 <@Dagmar> This is the reeason I get calls about bullshit at 3am and I go fix the shit anyway instead of telling the NOC worker to shove the phone up their ass
10:37 < frsilent> you can still "feel productive" and not be lazy...while not helping them out
10:37 <@Dolemite> Normally I'd be saying the same thing as rattle, but I've seen what it has done to you
10:38 <@Dagmar> The blacking out thing was *bad*
10:38 <@aestetix> Dagmar: is there a way you can get laid off?
10:38 <@Dagmar> aestetix: If these people had any respect they would have laid me off instead of putting me under Hogan.
10:39 <@Dagmar> They would have simply admitted that Hogan's plan calls for ignorant, underskilled drones in the admin positions, and that I was too highly-qualified and experienced.
10:39 <@Dagmar> ...but Vanderbilt takes their image seriously, so the last thing they want to ever do is lay someone off without having a good cover story
10:40 <@Dagmar> Remember this is the company that in lieu of actually ever giving a raise that can compete with inflation, gave all their employees a $500 bonus
10:40 <@Dagmar> ...which they told the news media about two days before any of the employees knew.
10:42 <@Dagmar> There are multiple departments I could transfer into
10:42 <@Dagmar> With Chuckles gone, I'm no longer more interested in setting myself on fire than I am working for Network Security
10:42 <@rattle> Are you talking to any recruiters?
10:42 <@Dagmar> I've been at this place for nearly ten years now, but I am unlikely to survive to see the tenth if I don't get the fuck out of this department immediately
10:42 < frsilent> Dagmar: is it necessary that you stay in TN?
10:43 <@Dagmar> rattle: Hell, I'm talking to HR at this place
10:43 <@Dagmar> Even they know this is fucked up
10:43 <@Dagmar> I half suspect Zafar is playing a long game of just giving Hogan as much rope as it takes to get rid of him
10:44 < frsilent> I've got friends at rackspace, macy's, & earthlink that are probably all hiring around atlanta
10:45 <@Dagmar> frsilent: Yeah one of the problems at this point is that I'm pretty sure picking up all my shit and toting it over hill and dale right now would result in my winding up in the hospital
10:45 <@Dagmar> Health > Job
10:46 < Shadow404> i second that
10:46 < Shadow404> i know rackspace is, not sure about the other two
10:47 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Maybe if they'd had an exit interview with me, they could have cinched the noose a bit
10:48 <@Dolemite> So it gets so bad there at times, that one of the email admins from 4 years ago went to the HR rep's office and said, "What do I have to do to get fired around here?  Do I need to call you a cocksucker?  Cocksucker."
10:49 <@Dagmar> Knowing why he did that I can't say I blame him
10:49 <@Dagmar> Someone shoudl have been fired for stacking that many virtual Exchange instances on so few actual cores
10:49 <@Dagmar> That was just irresponsible
10:52 <@Dagmar> I've reached the limit of what the benadryl is going to let me do this morning.  Time to get back into bed
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11:43 <@Corydon76-home> Vandy's MCSE (Medical Center Special Events) division was just dissolved; almost everybody from that department was just laid off
11:45 <@rattle> Sounds like they are really wise about their spending.  I've been seeing commercials on TV for Vandy's medical research stuff..  But they are shutting down departments and laying people off.  Sounds smart.
11:54 <@oddball> I seen reports of hospitals doing similar across the countyr
11:54 <@oddball> er country
11:56 <@rattle> Vandy management will always be shit in my eyes, solely for killing WRVU.
11:59 <@oddball> well, that was the university side, but yeah.
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12:25 <@Dolemite> Wow, a friend of mine worked for the MCSE group until recently when he got a full time gig driving an ambulance for life flight...   sounds like he got out at just the right time
12:29 <@Evilpig> rattle: public perception is everything
12:29 <@Evilpig> if the commercial says they are doing good then the majority of the general public will take that as fact because the tv said so
12:32 < Shadow404> Evilpig: bad pig
12:32 <@Evilpig> ?
12:32 < Shadow404> had a drop there
12:32 <@Evilpig> wasn't me, whore
12:32 < Shadow404> kick your modem for me
12:33 <@Dolemite> I'd rather kick Shadow404
12:33 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZCsU6u74cM
12:33 < Shadow404> actually hang, other people got disconnected too
12:33 < GateKeeper> Title: Sick Puppies - Gunfight (Audio) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:33 < Shadow404> your free this one time
12:33 < Shadow404> Dolemite: ill kick you back to your mom's womb boy!
12:34 <@Dolemite> Well you'd certainly be a subject matter expert on mom's womb
12:34 <@Evilpig> /bin/sh: line 0: kill: (8877) - Operation not permitted
12:34 <@Evilpig> sudo: sorry, you must have a tty to run sudo
12:34 <@Evilpig> lol
12:35 <@Evilpig> I shoudl add a boot shadow script into irssi
12:36 <@Mirage> sed -e 's/RequireTTY\ yes/RequireTTY no/' -i /etc/sudoers
12:36 < Shadow404> Evilpig: pass
12:36 <@Evilpig> oh really now
12:36 < Shadow404> i put a smiley face on th end of it
12:36 < Shadow404> :)
12:37 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: at least that time I was responsible
12:37 <@Evilpig> lol
12:37 < Shadow404> yes you were
12:40 <@Evilpig> and since troy knew of the line that sudoers was blocking without me looking..  muahahaha
12:40 < Shadow404> troy?
12:41 <@Evilpig> mirage
12:41 < Shadow404> ahhh, i did not know that
12:41 <@Evilpig> at least I haven't fucked up and done that on dag
12:41 < Shadow404> how many 2600 peep's have a shell on this server?
12:41 <@Evilpig> just you
12:41 <@Mirage> Evilpig: never seen that error in my life...esp not while running a for loop to run remote commands on all the ITS unix hosts.  Nope..never
12:41 <@Evilpig> and notlarry
12:41 < Shadow404> oh, ok
12:41 <@Evilpig> probably mirage and dolemite too
12:41 < Shadow404> yeah, but i barely use any processor at all
12:42 < Shadow404> at least notlarry knows how to use linux for more than just screen/irssi
12:42 <@Evilpig> Mirage: haha.  I like the machine intake process here.  it's mostly automated
12:44  * Shadow404 is planning to get a little tipsy at the office party tonight and hit on the college interns
12:45 <@Dagmar> ssh -t forces tty allocation
12:45 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: it was an irssi /exec though
12:53 <@Dolemite> Meeting time.  Followed by another meeting.
12:53 <@Dolemite> Oh, and to cap that off, one more after that.
12:54 <@Evilpig> don't wear pants.  they'll stop inviting you
12:54 <@Dolemite> I tried that.  Why do you think I get invited to so many more?
12:54  * Evilpig jumps back 
12:55 <@Dolemite> Ok, later all
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12:55 <@Evilpig> that was close.  I was about to get struck by the lightning coming for him
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13:06 < Shadow404> Evilpig: heh, .1 to .3
13:06 < Shadow404> but it only killed the ssh, not the screen, whew, thats a bitch to reset cause i dont have it scripted yet
13:07 <@Evilpig> I intended to only kill the ssh. :P
13:07 < Shadow404> cool
13:08 <@Evilpig> give me some credit at least.  sheesh
13:08 < Shadow404> yeah, good job pig
13:09  * Shadow404 gives Evilpig an over-enthusiastic pat on the back
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13:10 < Shadow404> so i had that teaming training chat with the tier2's about the newbs not knowing to try to flap the interface on down circuit instead of just telling the telco its still down when they call in for resolution
13:11 < Shadow404> apparently, this wasnt being taught cause it was part of the triage process in the NOC handbook.......gotta love broken business process and people that dont dare think outside the box
13:11 <@Bahhumbug> Did you use a clue x 4 to reinforce the training?
13:11 <@Evilpig> but instead of flap you said fap, and now you have to talk to HR?
13:11 < Shadow404> i wanted too
13:12 < Shadow404> Evilpig: yeah, apparently the female college intern didnt like that joke
13:12 < Shadow404> at least HR was like, nice, and handed me some whiskey and cigar
13:12 <@Evilpig> she should have been in the kitchen anyway.  right Dementia.
13:12 < Shadow404> Dementia: get me some beer
13:12 <@Evilpig> I should probably wear a cup if i'm gonna say stuff like that 
13:13 < Shadow404> na, its fun to see her reaction
13:13 <@Bahhumbug> Why?
13:13 < Shadow404> just make sure you can run faster
13:13 <@Bahhumbug> Last I checked you can't be kicked through fibe.
13:13 <@Bahhumbug> err, fiber.
13:13 <@Evilpig> Bahhumbug: she's magical
13:13 <@Evilpig> don't ask me how
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13:13 <@Bahhumbug> Because I just knew someone would /kick me through fiber.
13:17 <@Evilpig> a little metallica while intaking servers.  this can't go poorly
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13:21 <@Evilpig> I swear james hetfield sounds like Randy Savage at the end of Harvestor of Sorrows
13:26 < Shadow404> listening to front line assembly myself
13:27 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: I think Savage would be a better frontman for the band than Hetfield.
13:27 <@Evilpig> at times, yes
13:27 <@Bahhumbug> Plus it's likely Ulrich would mouth off to him and Savage would be him to within an inch of his life.
13:27 <@Bahhumbug> So... win win.
13:27 <@Bahhumbug> s/be him/beat him/
13:27 <@Evilpig> everytime I see him I think back to that old napster animation.  "FIRE BAD!"
13:31 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS6udST6lbE
13:31 < GateKeeper> Title: Metallica Napster Bad - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:36 <@Evilpig> http://www.qdoba.com
13:36 <@Evilpig> damn site is down
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15:13 <@SuMo_D> so yeah, Dagmar and RangerZ - the issue from last night... he is still a dick... trying to find appropriate spam.... ilovegirlfarts.com seemed like a good start
15:22 < Shadow404> SuMo_D: lies, girls dont fart
15:22 <@SuMo_D> uh huh
15:23 <@Mirage> Shadow404: Do to..I saw it in "Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back".  Everyone knows that if was in a movie, it has to be true..
15:24 < Shadow404> ok, i stand corrected, Mirage is right, and i swear it wasnt my dogs last night afterall
15:25 <@SuMo_D> ok.... got some furry mailing lists... what else
15:25 <@oddball> Oh for fuck's sake.  My sister is still trying to argue that a 768kbs internet connection is ok for her house.
15:25 < RangerZ> nambla
15:25 <@oddball> This is a 5 person household...
15:25 < RangerZ> oddball: HAHA
15:25 <@oddball> and she's sending her 3 kids to private school.
15:25 < RangerZ> ask her if she wants netflix ever
15:26 <@SuMo_D> yeah I looked up nambla, they didn't have a mailing list
15:26 <@Corydon76-home> IIRC, they have a snail mail mailing list
15:26 <@Corydon76-home> Or did at one time
15:26 <@SuMo_D> you can just access their bulletins, and it doesn't look like the site has been really updated since 2002
15:26 <@Corydon76-home> They're probably now all on a darknet, through TOR.
15:27 <@SuMo_D> we're trying to think of annoying mailinglists to sign up a person from my past who won't leave me alone
15:27 <@SuMo_D> and is an agro asshat
15:27 <@Corydon76-home> In some ways, good riddance.  In other ways, fuck, they're not as easy to stop anymore.
15:27 < RangerZ> TrotCon
15:27 <@SuMo_D> circuspie@gmail.com
15:27 < RangerZ> the my little pony con
15:27 <@SuMo_D> is his email if you guys want to help
15:28 <@oddball> SuMo_D: how do they feel about guns?
15:28 <@Corydon76-home> It's difficult nowadays, since most mailing lists are confirmed opt-in
15:28 <@SuMo_D> I donno... I haven't seen the fucker in 20+ years
15:29 <@SuMo_D> he just likes to try to track me down and troll me every once and awhile and I'm pissed this time
15:29 <@oddball> Wait... nevermind... even if he is pro-gun, frontsight.com's "newsletter" emails are still damn annoying.
15:30 <@oddball> caution: website plays sounds on loading.
15:30 <@SuMo_D> he's from Boston... I'm guessing he's anti-gun
15:34 < RangerZ> nah, how else is he going to shoot the italians?
15:35 < RangerZ> my friend owns a massage business in boston, could see if she'd troll him, calling him and telling him that she won't be able to give him 'happy ending' etc
15:35 < RangerZ> lol
15:35 <@SuMo_D> yeah, I don't have a phone #
15:35 < frsilent> a guy you haven't seen in 20 years...but makes sure to hunt you down on forums or something?
15:35 < Shadow404> SuMo_D: probably a little cruel, but send him a newsletter for a pressure cooker company
15:36 < frsilent> that sounds like the makings of a restraining order
15:36 <@SuMo_D> frsilent probably need it... he does this every few years, I think he tried to steal my identity once too...
15:36 < frsilent> why?
15:36 < frsilent> a highschool crush?
15:37 <@SuMo_D> he's like hey remember me... we dated that one time back in 2000
15:37 < frsilent> difference in beliefs?
15:37 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: then send him a flyer on 'how to make gunpowder'
15:37 <@SuMo_D> sorry I was a dick - but yeah let me invade your life now
15:37 < RangerZ> (he was referencing the boston bombing)
15:37 < Shadow404> RangerZ: no shit sherlock
15:37 < RangerZ> jesus
15:38 < RangerZ> i though she said 'why'
15:38 < RangerZ> it was dipshit frsilent
15:38 < RangerZ> i mean... hi frsilent
15:38 < RangerZ> ;)
15:38 < Shadow404> "which was a horrible disaster"
15:38  * Shadow404 quotes that for the record
15:38 <@SuMo_D> I've been through it with him maybe 4 times at this point but he changes his email or his IM or whatever and does it again, and then acts like he has no memory of any of it... and yeah... gets very like DROP EVERYTHING FOR ME NOW.... its really annoying
15:38  * Shadow404 waves to the feds
15:38 < frsilent> lol
15:39 <@SuMo_D> I mean not much he can do from where he's at... but still
15:39 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: just ask him for his address, say you are going to be stopping in boston on a business trip, and would like to hang out
15:39 <@SuMo_D> I did get the sorry I treated you so badly I was on a lot of coke and ex at the time email at one point... but yeah have been pretty clear to say well, thanks, the apology was nice... now go fuck off
15:40 < RangerZ> then call his sherrif, and tell them that he is harrassing you, and you think he is violent and psycho, and you are afraid he is going to hurt someone else
15:40 < frsilent> tell him to go sign up on pof.com if he's lonely
15:40 < RangerZ> or what was it... trekkiedating.com
15:40 < RangerZ> lol
15:41 <@SuMo_D> yeah Rangerz I got the "WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO TELL ME TO FUCK OFF" response last night... I don't think he's giving me addy
15:41 < frsilent> sounds like he never stopped with the coke/ex
15:41 < frsilent> or upgraded to meth
15:41 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: thats why you would have to be nice now
15:41 < RangerZ> and troll him for a while
15:41 < frsilent> "up"graded
15:41 <@SuMo_D> hopefully he enjoys the ilovegirlfarts.com newsletter and goes away for awhile
15:42 < RangerZ> then the county PO can deal with him, lol
15:42 <@SuMo_D> he'd just give me a false address
15:42 < RangerZ> now that he knows you are pissed at him, yeah
15:42 < RangerZ> :/
15:42 <@oddball> SuMo_D: If this is purely email and IM, why not just ignore the fuck?
15:42 < frsilent> I don't normally eat junk food but...why do reeses pieces have to taste so delicious
15:42 <@SuMo_D> stupid thing... I really can't remember going on more than 3 maybe 4 dates with him
15:42 < frsilent> (upvote for oddball)
15:42 < RangerZ> oddball: b/c she is a female, and that makes too much sense ;)
15:43 < RangerZ> *comforts SuMo_D*
15:43 <@SuMo_D> oddball I usually do, and yeah will at this point... but its just fucking annoying that it keeps happening
15:43 <@SuMo_D> thanks Rangerz
15:43 <@SuMo_D> and everyone
15:43 <@oddball> The thing is, everytime you respond to him, you're validating his actions.
15:43 <@SuMo_D> its really not that big a deal
15:43 < frsilent> if you *never* respond he'll probably give up soon enough
15:43 <@SuMo_D> just... arg
15:43 < frsilent> (another upvote for oddball)
15:43 <@SuMo_D> yeah, I usually don't respond at all
15:44  * oddball has had the electronic stalker ex before.
15:44 <@SuMo_D> just was feeling dumb last night I guess
15:44 < Shadow404> yep, i had the electronic ex-wife stalker for almost a year
15:44 <@oddball> Hell, a few of you in here know her.
15:45 < Shadow404> yep
15:45 <@SuMo_D> yeah
15:45 < Shadow404> dont get me wrong, she was CUTE
15:47 <@SuMo_D> crazy ones usually are
15:48 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: https://github.com/jcul/CleverChat-Plugin
15:48 < GateKeeper> Title: jcul/CleverChat-Plugin · GitHub (at github.com)
15:48 < RangerZ> looks like a c plugin there
15:48 < RangerZ> but a good basis on how to just set it up for him
15:48 < RangerZ> lol
15:48 < RangerZ> (don't anyone point at SuMo_D and say she's cute now)
15:49 <@SuMo_D> yeah... well he's blocked for now... hopefully it sinks in this time
15:49 <@oddball> I'm still a fan of something one of my ex's once said to me: "I wish you could date a sane girl just once."
15:49 <@SuMo_D> this stuff doesn't usually get to me... maybe its just cause its so dumb
15:49 <@SuMo_D> lol I feel that way about guys...
15:50 <@SuMo_D> one day... maybe.. if I start dating again
15:50 < RangerZ> http://apple.slashdot.org/story/13/10/22/1825242/apple-announces-ipad-air
15:50 < GateKeeper> Title: Apple Announces iPad Air - Slashdot (at apple.slashdot.org)
15:50 < RangerZ> no its not from The Onion
15:51 <@SuMo_D> 20% thiner.... for a dumb thing that only uses apple aps and no flash or USB ports....
15:51 < Shadow404> oddball: yeah, theres a couple of things the ex's have said that sorta stuck like that
15:52 < Shadow404> funny enough about 80% of it that i rejected, comes true to be real
15:52 < RangerZ> alright, sleep time, later all
15:52 < Shadow404> though, i havent really dated a sane girl, ever.....
15:53 <@SuMo_D> later Rangerz
15:53 < Shadow404> including palindrome, far from sane
15:53 <@SuMo_D> yeah... all the sane girls I know are married
15:53 <@SuMo_D> I wish I knew more, cause I know these decent dudes... but I'm like yeah... sorry you don't want to date me or my friends... really...
15:54 < Shadow404> so heres the problem i find
15:55 < RangerZ> adams apple?
15:55 < Shadow404> sane = dumb as dirt, or crazy = smart as fuck
15:55 <@SuMo_D> I donno I def think I do better on my own... relationship me... gets weird - was worth with BCPs for sure... man those = insanity
15:55 < RangerZ> bcps?
15:55 < Shadow404> yeah, bcps?
15:55 <@SuMo_D> but I don't have to worry about that now... cause I have other health stuff to worry about... but yeah...
15:55 <@SuMo_D> Birth Control Pills
15:55 < Shadow404> oh, hehe
15:56 < Shadow404> yeah, bc methods are GOOOD
15:56 <@SuMo_D> which... you guys know how they work right? they trick a woman's body into thinking its pregnant - which... means it effects her mind that way too
15:56 < Shadow404> had one scare when i was married (near the end), so glad that didnt work
15:56 < dc0de> one word - vasectomy.
15:56 <@SuMo_D> some handle that shit better than others
15:56 < Shadow404> dc0de: im seriosuly considering it
15:56 < dc0de> Shadow404: I've never been happier.
15:57 < Shadow404> as long as it doesnt change anything else
15:57 < dc0de> nope, no change
15:57 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: i lost a G/F over the BC shot
15:57 <@SuMo_D> oh man... the shot
15:57 < RangerZ> apparently it drove her into depression, and back to her ex b/c she felt guilty for leaving him
15:58 <@SuMo_D> yeah... I've heard nothing but horrible stories about the shot
15:58 < RangerZ> which was fine, in the long run, just shitty at the time
15:58 <@SuMo_D> including two girls getting preggers while on it
15:59 < RangerZ> but i'm actually content being single now
15:59 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... I can't have babies anymore... or really do things that lead up to babies for now... and I'm pretty happy I don't have to worry about that
15:59 <@SuMo_D> yeah... being single rocks... more time for projects
15:59 < RangerZ> projects fuck that shit
16:00 < RangerZ> i'm tired of homework
16:00 < RangerZ> and projects
16:00 < RangerZ> lol
16:00 < RangerZ> not as much as Dagmar is of VUIT
16:00 < RangerZ> but.... thats not saying much
16:00 <@SuMo_D> lol - yeah you're in school
16:00 <@SuMo_D> I'm not... I do projects for fun and profit :P
16:00 <@SuMo_D> there's a difference
16:01 <@SuMo_D> well... yeah
16:01 <@SuMo_D> at least you're graduating soon right?
16:02 < RangerZ> plan to
16:02 < RangerZ> never can say for sure
16:02 < RangerZ> lol
16:03 <@SuMo_D> well you do what you can
16:04 <@SuMo_D> Holy crap blick bought out utrecht.... Noooooo!!!!
16:04 <@SuMo_D> (two best and biggest art supply stores that were competitors)
16:05 <@SuMo_D> cause we all know that having only one choice for things is the right choice....
16:05 < RangerZ> yep
16:05 < RangerZ> leads to lower prices
16:05 <@Corydon76-home> SuMo_D: send a comment to USDoJ asking that they review the merger based upon competition
16:05 < RangerZ> just ask the walton family
16:05 <@Mirage> damn..beat me to it
16:05 < RangerZ> the 5 of them don't have more wealth than 40% of americans
16:06 <@SuMo_D> more reasons to move away from paint and into lights and motors....
16:06 <@Mirage> When Sam actually ran the company it wasn't what it's become.  That all really got started when he turned it over to the corporation
16:06 <@Mirage> and then died
16:07 <@SuMo_D> I just really hope they kept the utrecht brand tube paint the same.... cause that stuff was cheap and amazing... if they replace it with the crappy blick stuff that was twice the price for 1/2 the quality that ran our in a quarter the time...
16:07 <@SuMo_D> I will be sad panda
16:08 <@Mirage> On a sep note..Comcrap is _still_ charging me for home internet at the house i moved out of and sold 3 months ago.
16:08 < RangerZ> mirage , that is pitchfork and torches worthy
16:08 < Shadow404> wow, thats messed up, gotta love comcast, they offshore their billing and moves dept.
16:08 <@notlarry> SuMo_D: When I was an art student I had a teacher that made us order watercolor from italy that could not be sold stateside.  Really nice paint, really toxic:)
16:08 <@SuMo_D> I just need to go back to making all my own materials.... just ugh... chemical exposure...
16:09 <@SuMo_D> notlarry I bet it had cadnium reds and yellows in it
16:09 <@Mirage> The woman I just got off the phone with had the audacity to claim that I had never contacted them to cancel my service, but she would be happy to email me the proper forms.  Oh, and since they require 30-days notice..i'll be getting one more bill.
16:09 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pSlu2okpqM
16:09 < GateKeeper> Title: CAKE - The Distance - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:09 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: when notlarry was a student, the titantic was about to be christened
16:09 <@SuMo_D> lol
16:10 <@Mirage> I'll be calling BoA next.  That billing goes to one of my CC's..and the last 3 charges will be disputed.
16:10 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: you, of course, have your itemized phone bills to show when you called to cancel, right?
16:10 <@Corydon76-home> and definitely call soon, because past 90 days, charges can't be disputed
16:11 < frsilent> RangerZ: http://i.imgur.com/EWvXpcg.png
16:11 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: first time i got billed and didn't excpect it, they said it was the final boll for the 30-days.  second time they claimed they didn't even see the charge in their system and to just ignore it.  now they claim i never cancelled.
16:11 <@Corydon76-home> Wow, that's fucked up.
16:11 < RangerZ> frsilent: yep
16:11 <@Evilpig> Mirage: send them the form again, backdated three months
16:11 < Shadow404> were the offshore?
16:12 < RangerZ> i swear to god... my prof gave us a take home midterm once, then laughed as we were walking out the door picking it up
16:12 < RangerZ> fucker
16:12 <@Corydon76-home> I actually had a company tell me on a false charge that their person to refund the charge was out of the office.  I told them my next call would be to the CC company to have the charge reversed, and they figured out how to reverse the charge in a hurry.  Chargebacks kill their CC discount rate.
16:13 < RangerZ> it was computer architecture, and he used the book hennesey and patterson (the standford/berkeley profs who wrote the first book on computer arch) use in their graduate level courses... for our _under_graduate class
16:13 < frsilent> lol
16:14 < frsilent> yeah I don't plan on grad school anytime soon
16:14 <@Mirage> Evilpig: I was never sent a form or told about a form by the Biz Acct manager or the retention department.  they could't have sent it to my email on file anyway because i'd disconnected the service and turned in my equipment the day i called them.
16:14 < frsilent> my favorite professor had his Phd in math & I had him for both graphics & game dev
16:14 < RangerZ> frsilent: grad school is cake
16:14 < RangerZ> MUCH easier than undergra
16:14 < RangerZ> d
16:14 < RangerZ> especially if you only plan on masters
16:15 < frsilent> more than anything it's just a matter of time these days
16:15 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: Heh, yeah, a lack of equipment should be a dead giveaway that the service ought to be cancelled
16:15 < frsilent> & I don't see any significant reward for it
16:15 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: you'd think///
16:16 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: the only reason i got their service in the first place is because DSl wasn't available at the house to keep my butler account
16:17 <@Evilpig> Mirage: they emailed it.  that's what they did to me
16:17 <@Evilpig> I don't know if they ever got the signed shit back from me either
16:17 <@Evilpig> so I am expecting making several angry phone calls
16:17 <@Corydon76-home> This is also why I prefer getting invoices and paying them with online bill pay.
16:18 < Shadow404> yeah, i had to make about 4 of those angry calls to get my service setup and transferred correctly to the new house
16:18 <@Corydon76-home> I don't have to worry about chargebacks if they never got my money in the first place.
16:18 < Shadow404> they tried to charge me two month in a row for the old house when i transferred service
16:18 < Shadow404> then cut off service at new house for 2 days till they got it sorted out
16:18 < Shadow404> i was livid
16:20 <@Corydon76-home> If I had options for Internet that didn't include the two biggest monopolies, I would pay a premium just to ensure that I didn't have to deal with either AT&T or Comcast.
16:20  * SuMo_D runs away for a bit 
16:20 <@Corydon76-home> I'm at least going with the smaller of two monopolists.
16:20  * SuMo_D before she goes writes spam circuspie@gmail.com for a good time on the wall
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16:21 <@Mirage> Shadow404: I was supposed to get TimeWarner Cable out here, but when they called to verify the installation (the 3rd time), the girl noticed that service hadn't been disconnected yet for the previous tennant..so they would have to reschedule until after the service had been disconnected before they could get me hooked up.
16:22 <@Corydon76-home> It's too bad Sumo doesn't have the guy's cellphone number.  I've seen some quite creative Craigslist ads...
16:22 <@Mirage> Shadow404: I told them to go ahead and reschedule for NEVER and that in the unlikely event that i couldn't get servicee from anyone else that I would call back to re-order services from them.
16:23 < Shadow404> Mirage: had the same issue, i had to keep hasseling the seller of the new home to cancel his service or schedule it and he wouldnt do it till a day before closing cause he was afraid comcast would mess up, and now i see why he was so concerened
16:23 < RangerZ> OR ... AIM's "ipphonerelay"
16:24 < RangerZ> a free service AOL offeres to the deaf, to allow them to IM someone's phone, and they have IRL people reading the IMs and saying them, then typing back the replies
16:24 < RangerZ> or 'offered'
16:24 < Shadow404> RangerZ: till it was spammed to death
16:24 < RangerZ> it was up until 2009 atleast
16:25 < RangerZ> so 'way' into spamming
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16:25 < RangerZ> i think it was a tax write off, so they didn't care
16:26 < RangerZ> http://ip-relay.com/
16:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Text Relay Services - Purple Communications (at ip-relay.com)
16:26 < RangerZ> apparently its a spun off company now
16:26 < RangerZ> or something
16:27 < RangerZ> http://ip-relay.com/Products.aspx#aim there we go
16:27 < GateKeeper> Title: Products & Services - Purple Communications (at ip-relay.com)
16:29 < RangerZ> ok
16:29 < RangerZ> napp
16:29 < RangerZ> time
16:33 <@Evilpig> slacker
16:33 < Shadow404> hoe
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18:13 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: ping
18:13 <@Corydon76-home> Evilpig: pong
18:13 <@Evilpig> you use gtakl?
18:13 <@Corydon76-home> I don't even know what that is
18:14 <@Evilpig> trying to get gtalk/hangouts to work with messages on osx
18:14 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, gtalk
18:14 <@Corydon76-home> I have it installed, but I haven't used it
18:14 <@Evilpig> bah.
18:15 <@Evilpig> from what I can tell because we have two factor auth enabled here I have to setup an application specific password for messages but it isn't working
18:16 <@SuMo_D> that sounds overly complicated... boo
18:17 <@Corydon76-home> SuMo_D: btw, for your stalker, if you know the guy's phone number, some Craigslist posts can net you creepy folks texting him
18:18 <@SuMo_D> don't know his number anymore
18:18 <@SuMo_D> haven't... .for errr 20 years...
18:19 <@SuMo_D> last time he did this I tried a directory search but James Yee is too common
18:19 <@Corydon76-home> Find his name on various social sites; some people are stupid enough to post their cell phone numbers
18:19 <@SuMo_D> yeah... tried...
18:19 <@Corydon76-home> Ah...
18:19 <@SuMo_D> he likes to lurk
18:19 <@Corydon76-home> Know his approximate city/state?
18:19 <@SuMo_D> Boston MA
18:20 <@Corydon76-home> Some of the people search sites can sometimes find those records for you
18:20 <@SuMo_D> don't those cost money though?
18:20 <@Corydon76-home> What's his age?
18:21 <@SuMo_D> apx 30
18:21 <@Corydon76-home> 34?
18:21 <@SuMo_D> maybe
18:21 <@SuMo_D> I think more like 32?
18:22 <@SuMo_D> he also goes by Jim
18:22 <@Corydon76-home> Know a middle initial?
18:22 <@SuMo_D> nope
18:23 <@Corydon76-home> Even in Boston, there's more than a few of them
18:23 <@SuMo_D> yep
18:23 <@SuMo_D> Boston has a big Asian community, and it is a pretty common name...
18:23 <@SuMo_D> but whatever... he's blocked for now
18:24 <@SuMo_D> and yeah, not much he can do but be a little jerk from afar... just ugh... probably cause I'm still not feeling well, and it was late just got under my skin a bit more than usual
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18:24 <@Evilpig> oh this is frustrating the hell out of me
18:25 <@SuMo_D> like how does no... go away... leave me alone... seriously... fuck off...  = I should contact you again
18:25 <@Evilpig> fuck!  cause i'm generating the password on the wrong fuckin' google account
18:25 <@notlarry> Wait, you want me to contact you again SuMo_D?
18:25 <@SuMo_D> whoops lol
18:25  * SuMo_D hugs notlarry
18:25 <@SuMo_D> you like raspi
18:25 <@SuMo_D> you're good
18:25 <@Corydon76-home> Restraining orders are just another way of saying "I love you"
18:26 <@notlarry> #youshouldbemorecarefulwithsnapjudgements
18:26 <@SuMo_D> yeah, I've found the problem with those... is that you usually need to engage with the person more to get enough info to actually get one...
18:26 <@SuMo_D> #pointtaken
18:27 <@notlarry> Got to go, just got invited to a new skype call.
18:28 <@SuMo_D> but yeah as oddball was saying earlier... the best way is usually just to not engage
18:28 <@SuMo_D> hope something else sparks their crazy and lures them away
18:29 <@Corydon76-home> Occasionally, people do change, especially given enough time
18:29 <@Corydon76-home> Sometimes, it's Step 9.
18:30 <@SuMo_D> yeah I agree
18:30 <@SuMo_D> but this dude... he's just not right
18:30 <@notlarry> I recently accepted a friend request on fb from the girl next door.  Seems she thinks I may have slighted her in high school and has been holding on to that anger for 35 years.  I am not her friend of facebook now.
18:30 <@SuMo_D> wow
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18:31 <@notlarry> But it is a lot like asking for anal, my wife now lets me have one of my old girl friends as a friend on facebook.
18:31 <@Bahhumbug> ...
18:32 <@SuMo_D> lol
18:32 <@Bahhumbug> I don't get that, nor am I sure I want to.
18:32 <@SuMo_D> yeah I've had people from my past that were assholes get back in touch, and been awesome
18:32 <@notlarry> Bahhumbug: If you want a bj the easiest way is to ask for anal.
18:32 <@Corydon76-home> notlarry: see, that's where you go wrong.  You don't ask; you take, and rely on her to tell you 'stop'
18:32 <@SuMo_D> I had two kids who made my life really rough in HS be like dude! you know that blah blah blah well it changed my life... and I'm like errr... realy?
18:32 <@notlarry> Unless your a chick.
18:33 <@notlarry> If you are a woman and you ask a man for anal you better be ready.
18:33 <@notlarry> Corydon76-home: My first wife liked it in the ear...
18:33 <@notlarry> Every time I tried to put it in her mouth she turned her head.
18:33 <@Corydon76-home> She must've had really big ears
18:33 <@notlarry> Wait, how did we get here?
18:33 <@SuMo_D> ha
18:33 <@SuMo_D> I was just thinking that
18:33 <@SuMo_D> lol
18:34 <@SuMo_D> something about relationship blackmail for sexual favors I donno
18:34 <@notlarry> I thought we were talking about SuMo_D's procivity towards asian people.
18:34 <@notlarry> that is not how I intended to spell that word.
18:35 <@SuMo_D> lol
18:35 <@Corydon76-home> If you're not picky, there're lots of guys who would be quite happy to sit on your cock
18:35 <@notlarry> I just got done with my job interview.  It did not go as well as I had hoped.  Seems they expect you to let the same number of kids get off the school bus as you let get on...
18:36 <@SuMo_D> whoops... left a wormhole open huh?
18:41 <@Evilpig> lol
18:41 <@Evilpig> notlarry: you can't start selling them on the black market until after you're hired
18:43 <@notlarry> Someone pointed out the count the number, not if they are the same ones.  So this is the second time the black market has come up on my irc in the last 3 minutes
18:43 <@notlarry> Not suggesting this might bring up any more red flags...
18:43 <@Evilpig> the other was blackmail, not black market.  time to schedule an eye exam
18:45 <@notlarry> no, I'm getting other messages
18:47 <@Dagmar> Does anyone know of any wifi adapters Best Buy usually carries that support AP mode?
18:50 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck
18:50 <@Dagmar> The Chumbies
18:51 <@Dagmar> Nevermind.  They dont' have a native port for wired ethernet
18:53 <@Dagmar> Oh ho
18:55 <@Dagmar> Okay so apparently the chumby DOES do an AP mode
18:55 <@Dagmar> Let's see
19:04 <@Dagmar> If what I'm reading is correct, I'll be able to use a USB adapter meant for a Wii to do the wired connection
19:04 <@Dagmar> Now to fire up the chumby and test AP soofing
19:04 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: do you happen to know what the lync server is for vandy?  I know that peter has connected to it via pidgin but I don't know the settings
19:16 <@Dagmar> No idea
19:29 <@Evilpig> I just emailed tony.  he knows.  he always knows
19:29 <@Evilpig> I think he also finds it funny my account is still active as well
19:40 <@Dagmar> The bad news: One of my CHumbies and it's power supply are completely dead
19:40 <@Dagmar> THe good news
19:41 <@Dagmar> The wireless adapter is just an internal USB dongle.  :)
19:43 <@Dagmar> Let's plug this fucker in and see what happenes
19:47 <@Evilpig> heh
20:01 <@Evilpig> time to go home
20:01 <@Evilpig> later
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20:49 <@notlarry> this is what real old men look like - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uZinAmZtJg
20:49 < GateKeeper> Title: ZZ Top - Live at Bonnaroo 2013 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
21:21 <@notlarry> Dagmar: ping
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21:35 <@notlarry> *sigh*
21:35 <@notlarry> Seriously, if it is an issue that I could personally resolve for you then there is no need to "demand" that I page the on call for it.
21:40 <@Bahhumbug> jesus, 360p?  Bleah.
21:42 <@Bahhumbug> I need to ping someone and get a real recording of that.  I forgot they were playing this year.
22:09 <@notlarry> you wait till your eyesight goes, 360p will be plenty for you.
22:10 < RangerZ> notlarry: i'd be legally blind if my glasses didn't fix my vision
22:10 < RangerZ> but 20/20 with my glasses
22:10 < RangerZ> even without my glasses 360p is still shit
22:13 <@Evilpig> fuck domain squatters
22:13 <@Evilpig> I swear to god.
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22:20 < RangerZ> Evilpig: what site did you want?
22:20 < RangerZ> phreaknic.com again
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22:22 <@Evilpig> a friend of mine was asking for a few
22:22 <@Evilpig> one of which is lasvegasinsurance.com
22:23 <@Evilpig> they want an opening bid of 15k for that shit.  fuck that
22:23 <@Evilpig> piece of shit cyber squatting fuckbags.
22:23 <@Bahhumbug> That's going to get annoying fast.
22:23 <@Dagmar> Stupid is the new standard.
22:23 <@Dagmar> I jsut saw a change announcement to increase the resources on PAVE
22:23 <@Dagmar> It's a dual-core machine with 1Gb RAM and presently half that is filesystem cache
22:24 <@Evilpig> klol
22:24 <@Dagmar> ...justification being that apparently it "doesn't scale"
22:24 <@Dagmar> FUcking pathetic
22:24 <@Dagmar> Am I the only person left who actually knows how to read this shit?
22:24 <@Bahhumbug> Do your management types have _any_ hands-on experience or do they just regurgitate buzz words?
22:25 <@Dagmar> I'm going to ask "what are the numbers we have on that" tomorrow
22:25 <@Bahhumbug> And they will say "42".
22:25 <@Bahhumbug> Which is probably a more sensible answer anyway.
22:28 < RangerZ> anyone here familiar with 'vagrant' and 'puppet' ?
22:29 <@Evilpig> they use puppet at tumblr
22:29 < RangerZ> its really nice
22:29 <@Dagmar> They're configuration managers, right?>
22:29 < RangerZ> https://github.com/juleswhite/cs27x/tree/master/exercises/dev-ops intro guide on both, if anyone is curious
22:29 < GateKeeper> Title: cs27x/exercises/dev-ops at master · juleswhite/cs27x · GitHub (at github.com)
22:29 < RangerZ> yeah, its a package installation scripting system
22:29 < RangerZ> and setup scripts
22:31 <@SuMo_D> Oooh sounds fun
22:33 <@Bahhumbug> vagrant doesn't impress.
22:33 <@Bahhumbug> All my infra is under puppet.
22:36 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: I actually rather like the idea of vagrant
22:36 < RangerZ> I haven't played with it much yet
22:36 < RangerZ> but something to look into
22:36 < RangerZ> (that was our in class exercise for today's class, and overall I'm impressed so far
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22:41 <@Bahhumbug> It's ruby.  I despise ruby.
22:41 <@Bahhumbug> Besides, I can instrument the same process workflow using other tools.
22:42 <@Bahhumbug> Hey, if you like it and it works for ya, more power.
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22:42 <@Bahhumbug> I stand up boxes using cobbler and configure using puppet; for my needs that works out well.
22:43 <@Bahhumbug> (I also couldn't possibly care any less about "TehCloud!!!111oneoneoen".
22:50 <@Dagmar> Way to go Debian
22:51 <@Dagmar> I just did a netinstall and it fucking set up gnome3
23:07 <@Dagmar> e100 driver doesn't work because of a lack of nonfree driver firmware
23:07 <@Dagmar> @#$@#$
23:32 < RangerZ1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0gZES2pTWk (original is 4K, and 1080p is still really nice)
23:32 < GateKeeper> Title: Star Citizen: Official Anvil Aerospace Hornet Commercial - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:32 < RangerZ1> this is going to shame so many games out there right now
23:33 <@Bahhumbug> or its going to fall flat on its face due to resource requirements.
23:33 <@Bahhumbug> What's the suggested specs for that game?
23:36 < RangerZ1> AMD DX 11 card
23:36 <@Bahhumbug> I do have to admit, it's pretty.
23:36 < RangerZ1> same for NV
23:37 < RangerZ1> 8GB ram, and quad core CPU
23:37 <@Bahhumbug> Is that suggested or minimum?
23:37 < RangerZ1> both basically at this point
23:38 < RangerZ1> nothing is 'out' yet for spec wise, because it isn't optimized at all with LOD, etc
23:38 <@Bahhumbug> I see.
23:38 <@Bahhumbug> I've got a feeling this is going to end up like Crysis when it was first released with new cards being designed just so they could play the damned game at greater than bare mioimum graphical features.
23:39 <@Bahhumbug> But, again...
23:39 < RangerZ1> pretty much
23:39 <@Bahhumbug> Pretty.
23:39 < RangerZ1> honestly, I'm more interested in the Occulus Rift with it
23:40 < RangerZ1> that would be a really cool experience, if they can get the resolution high enough on it
23:40 <@Dagmar> Fuck Debian
23:40 <@oddball> Dagmar: Could be worse.  Could be Unity.
23:41 < RangerZ1> could be 13.04
23:41 < RangerZ1> they got rid of 'terminal' entirely, and replaced it with touch input gestures
23:41 <@Bahhumbug> They all suck :)
23:42 <@Dagmar> They're so full of shit it's insane
23:42 <@Dagmar> I have _never_ had a Debian install that worked out of the box
23:43 <@Bahhumbug> I can't think of a single thing I like about Debian.
23:45 <@oddball> Dagmar: Really?  Huh.  I left Debian because they were glacierly slow with their updates.
23:46 <@oddball> From there, I went to Ubuntu because it fucking worked, and now I'm on Mint being Unity made me want to stab things.
23:47 <@oddball> RangerZ1: That Star Citizen ad is damn pretty.  I wouldn't count on that as an example of game play graphics, thought.
23:47 <@oddball> er though
23:47 <@aestetix> Dagmar: you know, if you want a good place to outlet your anger
23:48 <@aestetix> the IDESG mailing list is full of gullible targets waiting to be ripped apart :)
23:50 <@Dagmar> What I want is for this damn machine to use it's wifi USB dongle properly
23:53 <@Dagmar> Finally getting somewhere
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