--- Log opened Thu Oct 17 00:00:56 2013
01:23 < RangerZ> nice to see notepad++ opens a 300MB csv with no problem
01:23 < RangerZ> lol
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01:50 <@aestetix> So
01:50 <@aestetix> Did we just witness the destruction of the GOP?
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01:58 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXzy7z61zs8
01:58 < GateKeeper> Title: Anonymous Forcing Maryville Rape Case Reinvestigation - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:58 < RangerZ> aestetix: not yet, just wait
01:58 < RangerZ> I posted the TYT talk about how Anon was investigating
01:59 < RangerZ> and now, anonymous has now caused the investigation to be re-opened
02:08 <@Dagmar> I fuckin' wish
02:13 <@aestetix> well
02:13 <@aestetix> I actually respect Republicans. But not these stooges who call themselves republicans.
02:14 <@aestetix> I'm a big fan of limited conservative government.
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02:28 < RangerZ> i'm a 1960s republican
02:28 < RangerZ> meaning I'm a "liberal" democrat now
02:29 < RangerZ> aestetix: no you aren't, 'limited' enough to fit inside your bedroom
02:32 < RangerZ> I'm actually NOT in favor of 'limited' government via the "conservative" definition, I do believe that we need the EPA, that voting rights trump states' rights
02:32 < RangerZ> etc
02:39 <@aestetix> RangerZ: do you believe we need DHS?
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02:54 < RangerZ> sorta, but nothing like how it is made now
02:55 < RangerZ> DHS doesn't actually 'do' anything
02:56 <@aestetix> Sure they do.
02:56 < RangerZ> no, they don't
02:56 < RangerZ> its all their children depts
02:56 <@aestetix> Well, it's just like a paper shredder. I put paper into a shredder, and it turns it into garbage.
02:56 <@aestetix> Likewise, I put money into DHS...
03:17 < RangerZ> doesn't matter, inner-US air travel is going to fucking plummet so TSA is going to be a joke , as soon as driverless cars exist
03:18 < RangerZ> avg flight duration is only 2.18 hr, or something like that
03:19 < RangerZ> including TSA, etc, thats like 4hours, I wouldn't doubt most people would rather just have the company car drive them there, that way they have a car, and can sleep the entire way, or do work, or jack off, or whatever
03:19 < RangerZ> I've been thinking about self-driven cars a lot lately, and I think the social/political implications are immense
03:21 < RangerZ> will all depend on the regulations, and how those go, so we'll see
03:21 < RangerZ> but night
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07:35 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:37 <@Dolemite> Happy Anti-furlough Day!
07:37 <@Dolemite> Well, for another 2-3 months, at least
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07:59 < Shadow404> so.....
08:00 < Shadow404> $potential_employer called me this morning for a pre-interview chat and asked me what I preferred more, working from home or in the office.
08:01 < Shadow404> I think i instantly said work at home with a little too much enthusiasm and he was like good, thats what I was hoping
08:01 < Shadow404> Woot woot, i hope this pans out like i want
08:01 < Shadow404> there is still alot of stuff that has to be met
08:09 < Shadow404> Evilpig: I HATE YOU SO MUCH RIGHT NOW
08:11 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: never seen that happen before. I am very amused
08:12 <@Evilpig> I gotta get moving.
08:12 <@Evilpig> cats want food
08:16 < Shadow404> they happen, but very rarely
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08:25 <@Evilpig> Bahhumbug: way to go captain no chin. someone never told him to wrap that shit up apparently
08:35 <@Bahhumbug> I've not yet watched last evening's episode.
08:38 <@Evilpig> I figurted I have just enough time to watch it before work
08:40 <@Dolemite> Watch what?
08:40 <@Evilpig> the adventures of captain no chin
08:42 <@Evilpig> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1297754/
08:42 < GateKeeper> Title: Republic of Doyle (TV Series 2010– ) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
08:42 <@Evilpig> just look at that picture.  you can practically hear the meep meep meep of beaker coming out of it
08:45 <@Dolemite> I see
09:02 < Shadow404> none of the gov sites are back up yet
09:02 < Shadow404> including nasa
09:02 < Shadow404> unless my cache is old
09:03 < Shadow404> at least thats what i'd do
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09:11 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: I bet it was a relief hearing the roar of the servers power up this morning.
09:12 <@Dolemite> They never went down
09:12 <@Dolemite> ORNL didn't close
09:12 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, I figured it would be non-essential spending
09:12 <@Dolemite> We are not a direct federal agency
09:13 <@Dolemite> Our prime contractor had enough carry over funds to last us until the second week of November
09:13 <@Corydon76-home> Ah...
09:13 <@Dolemite> The only shutdown we had was last Saturday for a long planned facility maintenance
09:14 <@Dolemite> Then another one a week from this Saturday
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09:29 < Shadow404> nasa.gov is starting to come back online, slowly
09:37 <@Corydon76-home> Someone is crying... http://www.wsmv.com/story/23712796/spilled-milk-closes-eastbound-i-24-in-rutherford-county
09:38 < GateKeeper> Title: I-24 in Rutherford County back open after spilled milk - WSMV Channel 4 (at www.wsmv.com)
09:47 < Shadow404> lawl
09:48 <@Dagmar> Jesus.  This one web server vm is showing a full cpu's worth of iowait
09:48 <@Dagmar> It's not long for this world
09:48 < Shadow404> Corydon76-home: on another note, i just had to right a 4 page business proposal to get permission to continue using my script once SOC caught wind of the proccess i improved
09:49 < Shadow404> Dagmar: is this a webserver for obamacare, as that would make sense
09:49 < Shadow404> *write
09:49 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: I think your lead is getting desperate
09:51 < Shadow404> na, it actually had nothing to do with him actually....this time
09:52 < Shadow404> since the Lab is in the same office as SOC, they caught wind (overheard) the discussion abotu the script and got all involved and declared I needed an approved business case to proceed
09:52 < Shadow404> lead has basically given up
09:52 <@Corydon76-home> Don't be too sure.  If they were in the right place at the right time, expect that he asked them to be there.
09:53 < Shadow404> doubtful, but ill keep it in mind
09:53 <@Corydon76-home> On the other hand, desperation is the last stage before acceptance of a new reality
09:55 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-home: Kinda like Shadow404 desperately denying that he wants the D
09:55 < Shadow404> D?
09:56 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: he's not denying it anymore.
09:56 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-home: So you've finally won!
09:56 <@Corydon76-home> Well, someone won.
09:57 < Shadow404> what is D?
09:57 <@Dolemite> heh
09:57  * Dickie waves
09:57 <@Dolemite> dick
09:57 < Shadow404> still no to the dick
09:57 < Shadow404> Dickie: nice one
09:57 <@Dickie> Thanks. I keep it clean.
09:57 <@Dickie> Glad someone noticed.
09:57  * Dickie glares at Corydon76-home
09:58 <@Corydon76-home> Dickie: get off my ass.  ;-)
09:58 < Shadow404> interestingly enough i did part time security at a gay club event, if anything was gonna spark an interest, it would of happened then....didnt...just saying
09:59 <@Corydon76-home> Pshht, being on duty is one of the things that ensure you cannot take advantage of an attraction
10:00 < Shadow404> also kinda interesting, the creepers that usually get thrown out at an event like that are the women.....
10:00 < Shadow404> Corydon76-home: uh....none of what i saw did anythning for me
10:00 < Shadow404> neither disgusted or interested
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10:03 < Shadow404> Evilpig: ever had an issue where the bottom line of chat in irssi gets stuck between windows
10:03 < Shadow404> like when i go from one room to another, the last line of text carries over to the next room and persists
10:03 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: does it disappear if you minimize and restore?
10:04 < Shadow404> i tried that, the session resizes and formats the windows, but it still has that stuck line
10:04 <@Corydon76-home> i.e. is it a screen drawing issue, or a window layout cache issue?
10:04 < Shadow404> if when i re-maximize
10:04 <@Corydon76-home> So it's a window layout cache issue
10:04 < Shadow404> yeah, if i re-connect it clears
10:04 < Shadow404> just curious if theres something i can do to clear the cache without restarting my connection
10:05 <@Corydon76-home> The problem is in how the text is sent to the window; it's using the faster method, but when anything goes wrong, it stays stuck.
10:06 <@Corydon76-home> It usually only occurs when you have a font that is incorrectly specified
10:06 <@Corydon76-home> So try changing your font, especially from a rasterized to Truetype.
10:07 <@Corydon76-home> It won't clear an error, but it might prevent it in the future
10:12 < Shadow404> ok, doing so now
10:14 < Shadow404> is cleartype the same thing at truetype, as thats the only similar option?
10:15 <@Corydon76-home> My understanding of "cleartype" was that it was a screen anti-aliasing tech, not a specification for vector fonts
10:21 < Shadow404> hrmm, there is an antiliasing option too
10:36 <@Evilpig> damn jose
10:36 <@Evilpig> damn damn damn
10:37 < nachoguy> mr0nin
10:37 <@Evilpig> but in his defence part of what I changed was slightly annoying on slow PCs so I stepped up my game.
10:38 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I need you to test this for weirdness with IE  http://opendcim.wilpig.com/dc_stats.php?dc=1
10:38 <@Evilpig> i'm at work atm and don't have access to IE
10:38 <@Dolemite> k
10:39 <@Evilpig> the flickering should be completely gone now.  I redid how I was handling the canvas
10:40 <@Dolemite> It's gone, but answer this for me...
10:40 < Shadow404> 42
10:40 <@Evilpig> I dont know why Shadow404 did that.  I think he liked it
10:40 < Shadow404> yeah, it was exhilirating
10:41 <@Dolemite> Yeah, but I'd never seen such a large cucumber before.  I'm surprised he was spitting out pickles all day.
10:41 <@Evilpig> o.O
10:41 <@Dagmar> Yay it's happening
10:41 <@Evilpig> Shadow404's insides contain vinegar?
10:41 <@Dagmar> The entire thing is coming crashing to the ground
10:41 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3fejgrjkh61swkf/2013-10-17%2010.40.21.jpg
10:41 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-10-17 10.40.21.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
10:42 <@Dolemite> Anyway, the zone map - is that auto generated from the  list of what racks are in it?
10:42 <@Corydon76-home> Evilpig: Well, he douches with vinegar
10:42 < Shadow404> Dagmar: what now? the mistake from yesterday?
10:42 <@Evilpig> the zones are generated from the zones on the left side.  IF they have had sections defined on the map
10:42 < Shadow404> Corydon76-home: oww, that would fucking hurt
10:42 <@Evilpig> edit a zone and you can set it's location on the datacenter map
10:43 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Ok, so it's possible to define a zone larger than the footprint of the cabinets?
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10:43 <@Dolemite> I see that your cabinet tooltip are in the right location, too
10:43 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/dzyiu6fgzjtuhrb/2013-10-17%2010.42.06.jpg
10:43 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-10-17 10.42.06.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
10:43 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: yes
10:43 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: hardly.  Your colon doesn't have such nerve endings.  Only pain it can feel is a stretching pain
10:43 <@Evilpig> jose wants me to move the tooltips to be in the middle of the rack but I kinda like them where they are on there now
10:44 <@Evilpig> maybe moved down slightly so the top edges line up
10:44 <@Dolemite> I'd like them to just be back where they were.  I will pull and see.
10:44 <@Dolemite> I also need to add in that report that was sent to the mailing list.
10:44 <@Evilpig> are they not where they were ?  i'm confused
10:44 < Shadow404> its not the colon id worry about
10:45 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: you have a vagina, too?
10:45 <@Evilpig> that code he sent,  need to edit out all the garbage that i'm sure is included with it.  he already said it has a copy of fpdf in it as well
10:45 <@Evilpig> btw those are in the tumblr office at the datacenter facility
10:45 <@Dolemite> He said he changed it to use the path to the fdpdf that we have
10:46 <@Evilpig> right but im sure he left fpdf in it
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10:47 <@Corydon76-home> Evilpig: btw, I'd recommend running VirtualBox, so you can have IE to test with
10:47 <@Dolemite> yeah, I'll take a look
10:48 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: I am still getting familiar with this damnable mac
10:48 <@Corydon76-home> I understand, that's why I recommended it
10:49 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I have several tidying up things that need to be done like everywhere that jose put "real power" i've changed to say "measured power" and anywhere else that just said power where the measured power was at I changed to read "calculated power"
10:51 <@Corydon76-home> Evilpig: What about also using "Peak", as machines will typically use more during their boot-up cycle?
10:52 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: this isn't on reporting.  but that would be a good thing to know. this is on a heat map to show the current state of a rack
10:53 <@Dolemite> We don't do historical tracking.  That's for things like rrdtool/cacti, and they already do that very well.
10:53 <@Dolemite> openDCIM is about capacity planning, not monitoring.
10:53 <@Evilpig> either the power values are those pulled from the db using the values we defined in the template for the device OR it's been configured to poll the realtime data right then from the rack
10:54 <@Corydon76-home> I was thinking more along the lines of power-up planning, i.e. how many racks you can start at once without overwhelming your input power
10:54 < Shadow404> question, what devices report the power realtime and what protocol does it use out of curiosity
10:54 <@Dolemite> We have to look at the worst case scenarios and don't care whether that's during startup or operation.
10:55 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: typically a managed UPS will report the power draw on a port-by-port basis
10:55 <@Dolemite> IPMI can tell you some information
10:55 <@Dolemite> Mostly it's managed power strips
10:55 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, or SNMP
10:56 < Shadow404> ah ok, does it send out the data multicast for a monitor to pickup on, or does it wait to be queried?
10:56 <@Dolemite> The SNMP agent on a server typically knows nothing about power, so you have to talk IPMI to the board level, but still, that's not very accurate as it doesn't account for power factor.
10:56 < Shadow404> never setup monitoring for power
10:56 <@Dolemite> The power strip is the best place, unless you have CTs on the power panel.
10:56 <@Dolemite> They all have to be setup
10:57 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: I meant SNMP in some managed UPS units
10:57 <@Corydon76-home> I have UPS units here that have SNMP support, but not IPMI
10:58  * Evilpig is looking at the snapple tea in the fridge but it's been tainted peach
10:59 <@Dolemite> Yeah, most UPS's will speak Modbus and/or SNMP, but we don't poll them here because they feed out to several panels, and the capacity planning is more important at the cabinet level
11:06 <@Dolemite> Dangit.  Still have the tooltips in the wrong locations.
11:06 <@Evilpig> ?
11:06 <@Evilpig> picture
11:08 <@Dolemite> never mind, that fixed it
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11:08 <@Dolemite> I wiped and copied everything back over
11:08 <@Dolemite> so apparently I had a stale file up there
11:09 <@Dagmar> Yep.  Shit's officially burning to the ground now
11:09  * Dagmar does a merry little jig
11:09 <@Dagmar> I'm going to take my time about getting into the office, becuse fuck these people.
11:14 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: it was probably just stale css
11:14 <@Evilpig> I altered that a bit to make things better
11:15 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Could be.  I'm also adding a locale_number( $str ) function to misc.inc.php so that we can call it for displaying the right separators
11:15 <@Evilpig> we should just use the locale setting for number_format or whatever
11:15 <@Dolemite> I am, but you still have to run it through number_format
11:15 <@Evilpig> that was on my list but i'm finding my time still very contrained right now
11:16 <@Evilpig> my body is refusing to give up being awake in the dark ties
11:16 <@Evilpig> times*
11:16 <@Dolemite> number_format doesn't change based on locale, apparently.  The default is English, no matter what your locale is set to.
11:16 <@Dolemite> You have to tell it what separator to use, which you can get from localeconv()
11:17 <@Evilpig> either friday night after I get back from teh city or saturday i'm gonna finally get that shit done for the mediatypes, colors, now the new port naming stuff
11:18 < RangerZ> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/ubuntu-13-10-review-the-linux-os-of-the-future-remains-a-year-away/
11:18 < GateKeeper> Title: Ubuntu 13.10 review: The Linux OS of the future remains a year away | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
11:18 < RangerZ> oh jesus... it looks even worse...
11:18 <@Evilpig> if I can get time I want to try to goto http://wwww.ninjanewyork.com on friday
11:18 < GateKeeper> Title: 404 Page Not Found (at wwww.ninjanewyork.com)
11:19 <@Evilpig>  http://www.ninjanewyork.com
11:19 < GateKeeper> Title: NINJA NEW YORK Restaurant, Finest Japanese Cuisine (at www.ninjanewyork.com)
11:22 <@Evilpig> if these are what I think.  there are 26 air handlers in here...
11:25 <@Evilpig> oh.  RangerZ, Dagmar, anyone else up on android internals.  I copied some MP3s over to my phone via esFileExplorer from a box on my network.  put them on the externalSD card under /Music/Artist/Album/xx - song title.mpg
11:26 <@Evilpig> if I goto google play music it shows the albums but it says it can't play them
11:26 <@Evilpig> if I go back into esfileexplorer goto the externalsd card I can play any of those tracks via google play music just fine
11:26 <@Evilpig> I have cleared the cache/data for music via app info and made sure it wasn't some type of weird caching problem
11:27 <@Evilpig> what else could it be?
11:28 <@Corydon76-home> Evilpig: verify that the files are, in fact, MPEG-1 Level 3? And perhaps rename them to .mp3?
11:28 <@Evilpig> they are all ended in .mp3
11:28 <@Corydon76-home> Above it says '.mpg'
11:28 <@Evilpig> and they do play if I select the file from es fileexplorer and play it through music directly
11:28 <@Evilpig> my bad.  they are mp3
11:28 <@Evilpig> it was a fat finger
11:29 <@Evilpig> The exact error I am getting "Music playback error.  Couldn't play the track you requested"
11:29 <@Corydon76-home> Did you upload the albums as an m3u file?  The filenames may no longer match
11:30 <@Dolemite> I've had quirky issues with Google Play Music not reading off of the external SD card before - I just use Apollo music player for anything that's local, and only use Google Play Music for streaming.
11:31 <@Evilpig> no.  just individual mp3 files
11:31 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: in fact I used andftp to pull them from my server over to the phone
11:33 <@Evilpig> lemme try moving it from the external to the internal memory then
11:33 <@Evilpig> Not that I dont like psychostick but I'd like a little more variety tomorrow for my long ass train ride where there is no cell server or wifi
11:37 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: New weirdness.  After updating the CSS, my map now starts to repeat itself at the bottom...   like the canvas is trying to force a square geometry.
11:37 <@Evilpig> that can be fixed.  i'll correct that.  the map is actually set as a background on a div that could be larger than expected
11:37 <@Evilpig> i just need to set the background-repeat property to none
11:38 <@Dolemite> But the locale aware number formatting is working, so no more 7,4 kW driving me crazy
11:41 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Found an oddity in your zone code
11:42 <@rattle> The House stenographer's breakdown is one of the strangest things that's ever happened on the floor...
11:42 <@Dickie> You say breakdown
11:42 <@Dickie> I say witnessing
11:42 <@Dolemite> If you define a zone that has a negative coordinate, it won't display the map.  It's also a bit odd that the coordinate picker will return a negative number...
11:43 <@Evilpig> how are you getting negative coords?  but yes I know what might be causing that
11:44 <@Dolemite> I just drew a box starting at the left corner.  For some reason it give Y1 = -1
11:44 <@Dolemite> gave
11:45 <@Dolemite> Once I changed that to a 0 manually, it worked
11:45 <@Dolemite> In Chrome your red box outline isn't moving back and forth between zones most of the time.  It seems to be sticky to the first one you moused over.
11:46 <@Dolemite> correction - to the second one
11:46 <@Dolemite> I'm wondering if that's due to overlapping boundaries
11:47 <@Dolemite> Ok, that's not the case...   no overlap
11:47 <@Dolemite> Oh, well, I'll let you play with that tonight
11:50 <@Evilpig> yes that could cause it
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11:58 <@Evilpig> tumblr is buying lunch again
11:58 <@Evilpig> wooooooo
12:00 <@Dagmar> Man I should have gotten into the office sooner
12:01 <@Dagmar> I've been missing out on Sean making lame excuses and giving people stupid answers
12:01 <@Evilpig> ut the world is ending. you;re supposed to be in hiding
12:01 <@Dagmar> No, I'm just going to sit here and do very little
12:01 <@Dagmar> Actually, that's not true
12:01 <@Dagmar> I'm going to work out why the DNS update mechanism I was beating on last night isn't working, in between rebooting webservers
12:02 <@Dagmar> Sean's going to continue making up shit to tell people and being generally useless
12:02 <@Dagmar> ...and I can't be bothered to give a fuck.
12:03 <@Dagmar> Because fuck these ignorant tools
12:03 <@Dagmar> If they're not going to listne to me, I'm going to just not say anything.
12:03 <@Dagmar> ...and the first person who tries to make the claim that I'm not doing anything about this is going to get a blast of rage between the eyes
12:06 <@Dagmar> A few minutes ago Sean was saying the problem was that there were "too many connections" going to mysql02
12:06 <@Dagmar> For some reason they don't seem to think this has anything to do with the queries taking substantially longer to complete
12:06 <@Mirage> Dagmar: is it still the same issue with the I/O being crap for the mysql server, so all the web servers heavily reliant upon it buried in IO Wait?
12:06 <@Dagmar> Yep
12:07 <@Dagmar> I've got yellow in the CPU utilization graphs like some runaway fungus infestation
12:07 <@Dagmar> ...but since I'm the person who is saying this, and it's not something Sean came up with, they're having a merry chase doing all sorts of stupid things like, increasing the RAM on the www4 servers.
12:08 <@Mirage> until they accept the fact that this is all related to the storage being mis-configured back at implementation and decide to fix it, the problem will just continue to get worse.
12:08 <@Dagmar> I did sent Hogan an email with some printouts-to-PDF of the cacti graphs for mysql02 and used the phrase "flaming webservers falling from the sky" just a couple of days ago
12:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah I'm pretty much expecting to tell someone to go fuck themselves today
12:09 <@Dagmar> Sean wants to stand up there and act like he knows what he's doing, and I'm going to let him
12:09 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: you broked it.  well technically hawson did
12:09 <@Dagmar> ...and when the storage people come back and repeat the smae thing they'e been saying for over a year, I'm going to demand an accounting of why it is they want to side with stupidity.
12:09 <@Mirage> ITS needs to quit being ITS and actually try to work with EAI to get the storage stuff fixed.   Oh..and unfortunately they'll have to throw some money at it or talk EMC into a loaner to use for storage migrations in order to get it all fixed.
12:10 <@Dagmar> They're never going to stop being ITS.
12:10 <@Evilpig> Mirage: EAI has no real storage people left. ;)
12:10 <@Mirage> Nathan
12:10 <@Dagmar> THey're going out of their way right now to be incompatible with normal change management so they can argue Pegasus is a bad fit, now that they've been ordered to use it
12:10 <@Dagmar> Nathan's been sending them reports on a weeklly basis
12:10 <@Dagmar> For months
12:11 <@Dagmar> Sean is now the "technical approver" and he has to formally approve all PASCs
12:11 <@Dagmar> So they introduced *another* layer of bullshit
12:12 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: you know, I fully expect you to start muttering about your stapler before long.
12:14 <@Dagmar> fuck that.  I'm ready to set things on fire
12:14 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I'm still fuzzy on why Sean is back...
12:15 <@Mirage> Other than Hogan, I don't think there's really anyone else in the building that finds him competent for the job.
12:15 <@Dagmar> The Exchange admin (Gossard) was just over here saying "You know, I think this is the NS960... We're seeing really high latency and low throughput on the SAN"
12:15 <@Dagmar> Apaprently Ingram was too terrible to work for
12:15 < dc0de> sounds like Intuit.
12:15 <@Corydon76-home> What, they expected him to be competent at his job or something?
12:17 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: the other admins, project managers, and end users do.   Who cares what management thinks.  Most of them have either never been an admin or been so far removed from technical work that they just assume taht anyone who can blow smoke up their asses is competent and qualified.
12:19 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: yes, but people who know that they're incompetent will typically stay out of the way of real work getting done, both because it makes them look good, and because when the shit breaks down, they won't be exposed
12:19 <@rattle> Just talk about NIST standards, ISO metric schemes, and yammer on about the important of process.  Boom.  Done.  Full acceptance of whatever the hell you want to do.
12:20 <@Corydon76-home> I'm kind of thankful for working at a place where we actually ship shit out the door, because it's a pretty reliable metric of how useful someone is
12:20 <@Dagmar> rattle: No thanks.  I'll stick with simply saying what's wrong.
12:21 <@Dagmar> Sean runs off a litany of things which are symptoms and then talks about how complex it would be to address each of them.
12:21 <@Dagmar> Mirage: warning sign number seventy-three, the mysqldumps are still running right now.
12:21 <@Dagmar> Sean is trying to cite this as a cause.
12:21 <@Dagmar> LOL
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12:25 < Shadow404> oh yeah, first interview went awesome and i think i did a good job explaining how i would handle situations
12:25 < Shadow404> anytime i couldnt handle something i said i would think of the best possible way to blame it on the next guy
12:25 < Shadow404> seems to work at college campus staff positions
12:27 <@Corydon76-home> I think a lot of places aren't yet getting the hint that the recession is over, and the really good people are being attracted away from shitty price points.
12:27 <@Corydon76-home> Didn't Vanderbilt just announce yet more cutbacks?
12:28 <@Mirage> Dagmar: omg..Those dumps were all normally done by 6-6:30..for all 300+ databases
12:29 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I still say the most glaring indication is that w/o any configuration changes, the avg q/s on the server dropped from 500-700 down to 100-200 at the same as the IO Wait increased dramatically.
12:30 < Shadow404> Corydon76-home: yeah, alot of thes companies that kept good people cause they couldnt go anywhere else are starting to lose them to better workplaces with better incentives
12:30 < Shadow404> how many people in your dept at vandy know about irc?
12:30 < Shadow404> or 2600 for that matter?
12:31 < Shadow404> would be funny if one of them snuck in and was monitoring the crap you say
12:33 <@Corydon76-home> My boss knows all about 2600 and IRC.  He uses me partially to keep abreast of tech issues
12:34 <@Mirage> Sean is most likely above something as rudimentary and low-brow as IRC.  I only know one windows admin who might use IRC, but I never saw him w/ an open window.  There's only one of the Security guys that I know who probably uses IRC..of course he attends PN and has done beer/brewing talks w/ Dolemite a few times.
12:35 < Shadow404> im just saying, be  sure they dont ever see the crap about them in the channel
12:36 <@Mirage> Shadow404: I don't work there anymore, so i could care less.
12:37 < Shadow404> yeah, i was basically directing that to Dagmar
12:37 < Shadow404> dont want him getting let go over something said in irc
12:38 < Shadow404> i dont anyone in my small team even knows how to user a terminal
12:38 < Shadow404> *doubt
12:42 <@rattle> I should maintain a blackmail file on folks here, in much the same manor large companies horde patents for defensive purposes.  :)
12:43 < Shadow404> yep, i see it all the time
12:43 < Shadow404> like apple hoarding patents on new techs
12:46 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: One of the nice things about being me is that I don't filter
12:47 < Shadow404> heh, ok
12:47 <@Dagmar> What they'd hear from me in person differs only in the most trivial ways from what I say here
12:47 <@Dagmar> Mainly less swearing.
12:47 < Shadow404> hehe, ok
12:47 < Shadow404> less swearing in irc or less in person?
12:47 <@Dagmar> In person
12:48 < Shadow404> hehe, ok
12:48 <@Dagmar> Right now i'm about to do something very savage
12:49 <@Dagmar> :)
12:49 < Shadow404> oh?
12:50 <@Dagmar> The Sr. Storage guy is very likely in a meeting right now explaining yet again how we're overloading the SAN.
12:50 <@Dagmar> I just sent him an email with the subject line "Pronouncement"
12:50 <@Dagmar> The body?  "AS IT WAS FORETOLD BY THE ELDERS, THE END IS UPON US"
12:51 <@Dagmar> So that'll likely be appearing in the corner of a large projection screen right about now.
12:51 <@Dagmar> muahahahahah
12:51 < Shadow404> lawl, nice
12:51 < Shadow404> cruel
12:51 <@Dagmar> No, we're all on the same page about this
12:52 <@Dagmar> They've been telling our management for a year now that we've outgrown the capabilities of the equipment, and it's going to begin misbehaving.
12:52 <@Dagmar> It's been misbehaving off and on for hte last six months.
12:52 <@Dagmar> Thursday sometime, something or other (likely some LDAP systems) upped the number of iops they're doing dramatically
12:53 <@Dagmar> ...which is showing up in my cacti graphs and our various monitoring systems very clearly.
12:53 <@Dagmar> ...but the "architect" is still wanting to run down a laundry list of symptoms as if they were the cause of the problem.
12:53 <@Dagmar> My next response is going to be literally, "Well, we can try turning it all off and back on again."
12:54 <@Dagmar> ...which actually might work.
12:54 <@Dagmar> It'll break some people's shit, and since those people are likely some idiots whose stuff doesn't recover automatically, they will no longer be driving our stuff insane for awhile
12:54 <@Dagmar> Load will be reduced, and the publicly visible parts of the infrastructure will have some breathing room.
12:57 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: lol.  I was just watching the it crowd last night...
12:57 <@Dagmar> I have to make time to watch that last episode
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12:57 <@Evilpig> you might want to add in a quip about if he knows what a power cord looks like or what the power switch looks like
12:58 <@Evilpig> you've got time right now....
12:58 <@Evilpig> you can even stream it from plex.wilpig.org
12:58 <@Evilpig> no, wait you can't.  it's not in th ecatlog yet
12:59 <@Dagmar> Someone's probably got it on youtube and it not there, I'm sure it's on delishows
12:59 <@Dagmar> I wound up grabbing World's End from solarmovie last night
12:59 <@Dagmar> Never managed to get to a theatre to see it
13:00 <@Evilpig> it was so so 
13:00 <@oddball> Evilpig: I take it Plex finally finished cataloguing your shit?
13:00 <@Evilpig> oddball: yeah.  it took it nearly two weeks
13:00 <@Evilpig> I probably need a more powerful Dom0
13:00 <@Dagmar> If it's decent I'll buy it because I'm a big fan of Pegg
13:00 <@oddball> damn.  I think it took it 30 minutes to do a full scan of my shit.
13:01 <@Evilpig> it was okay.  I think the worst part of it for me was that they kept billing it as part of some trilogy and it clearly wasn't.
13:01 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... same here.  I still need to grab a copy of it.
13:01 <@Dagmar> oddball: Well, you don't have a client trying to download all of the torrents on the internet at once
13:01 <@oddball> There's that.
13:01 <@Dagmar> oddball: Solarmovie.so.  heh
13:01 <@Dagmar> Just beware.  It's fairly fucking popup happy
13:02 <@oddball> Evilpig: Well, it was... just not in the way most people think.
13:03 <@Evilpig> they all three deal with that same area but it isn;t a continuous storyline or even having crossover characters
13:03 <@oddball> It's three movies done by the same people, not three movies that continue a story.
13:04 <@Evilpig> if you put it that when then you could include run fatboy run
13:05 <@oddball> Did that have the rest of them beyond Simon Pegg?
13:05 <@Evilpig> yes
13:05 <@oddball> Ah.
13:06 <@oddball> Then... fuck if I know.
13:06 <@oddball> Also... there's Paul.
13:06 <@Dagmar> I dont' think he really ever does anything significant without the other guy
13:06 <@Evilpig> I really don;t think you can get a movie or a show that has simon pegg without nick frost
13:06 <@oddball> heh
13:06 <@Dagmar> Hell they were both together on a radio show recently doing a cover of 'Get Lucky'.  It's on YouTube
13:06 <@oddball> He was in Mission Impossible III
13:06 <@Dagmar> it's worth checking out
13:06 <@oddball> heh
13:06 < SuMo_D> And the google evil grows... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/how-opt-out-googles-shared-endorsements
13:06 < GateKeeper> Title: How To Opt Out of Googles Shared Endorsements | Electronic Frontier Foundation (at www.eff.org)
13:06 <@Dagmar> They're perfect together
13:07 <@oddball> They are
13:07 <@Dagmar> I'm still blown away that the Star Wars thing they did was ad-lib
13:07 <@oddball> SuMo_D: Yeah... That, frankly, is one of the lesser evil things they've done lately.
13:07 < SuMo_D> true
13:07 <@Dagmar> Just fuckin' around between shoots, in the desert, threw some shit together that looked like half-ass robot costumes, and started acting up
13:07 < SuMo_D> but its its just another sign
13:08 <@oddball> Hell, I rank that just below them replacing google chat with hangouts.
13:09 <@oddball> (and in the process, breaking any third party clients)
13:16 <@Dagmar> In theory they're fixing that soon
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13:28 < Shadow404> yeah, i uninstalled hangout minutes after i tried it
13:28 < Shadow404> and went back to old google chat
13:28 < Shadow404> *talk
13:29 <@Dagmar> I'm waiting for them to tie the SMS hooks into it
13:30 <@Dagmar> That'll simplify my phone icons some more.
13:30 < Shadow404> i HATE hangout with a passion for the phone
13:31 < Shadow404> leave my gtalk alone, sure, add it as an optional feature that i can click on or off in the settings for those that like it, but give me the damn choice, dont force me
13:31 <@Evilpig> I use both gtalk and hangouts on my phone
13:31 <@Evilpig> tumblr uses gchat
13:31 <@Evilpig> everything else uses hangouts
13:36 < Shadow404> hangouts are neat, just wish they kept it seperate with gtalk "integration", not go and say, Hangouts will be the new Gtalk
13:38 <@rattle> I really want to round up Microsoft's UI people and kill them.
13:39 <@Evilpig> rattle: you using outlook365 now?
13:39 <@Evilpig> white glaring screen of hot death?
13:39 <@rattle> Treating the desktop UI like a tablet was one flavor of stupid pain.  Treating the fucking server UI like a tablet should result in getting your own special quadrant of hell.
13:40 <@rattle> O365 itself isn't so much a pile of poo, as ADFS is..
13:41 <@rattle> ADFS is great in that having an MS standard SAML implementation is certainly useful?  But boy oh boy, wouldn't it just be rad (and a no brainer) to have logging that didn't completely fucking suck.
13:41 <@rattle> Instead of the complete lack of visibility ADFS in practice has.
13:42 <@rattle> Complete with allllll the usual dumb stuff MS does with it's logging, and so much more..
13:42 <@rattle> Like logging session IPs for failed authentications, but not successful ones.
13:42 <@rattle> Because we really only care about the sources of failed logins.  Why would we care about ACTUAL ACCESS occurring?
13:42 <@rattle> Dumb.
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13:56 <@rattle> God damn, I'm happy Alexander is stepping down.  http://www.csoonline.com/article/741493/nsa-director-misled-black-hat-attendees-mdash-claims-of-prism-s-value-overstated
13:56 < GateKeeper> Title: NSA director misled Black Hat attendees claims of PRISM's value overstated - CSO Online - Security and Risk (at www.csoonline.com)
13:58 <@Evilpig> I like the new additions to virtualbox
13:58 <@Evilpig> http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/2033376?rssid=rss_ocom_pr
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14:05 <@aestetix> vagina
14:06 <@Evilpig> where?!
14:08 <@aestetix> rattle: the only challenge is, who will replace him?
14:08 <@aestetix> Maybe Ted Cruz
14:10 < RangerZ1> rattle: its not like most people even know what the NSA is NOW, i would be interested in seeing some polling data on that
14:11 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: i'm more interested in seeing x86 versions of android, and emulators other than android's and QEMU running it well
14:12 < RangerZ1> an x86x64 version of Android, would making a fucking GREAT home media server/player
14:20 < RangerZ1> but problem is that the drivers just aren't there
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14:24 <@benthemeek1> I have Android on a usb stick that I can boot to a desktop
14:24 <@benthemeek1> I mean on a desktop
14:24 <@benthemeek1> Friend gave it to me
14:25 <@benthemeek1> Not sure how it is accomplished but its definitely android once it boots up
14:26 < RangerZ1> yeah, it 'works' but it isn't optimized at all
14:27 < RangerZ1> plus I don't think it is 64bit
14:31 <@Evilpig> what is this optimized you speak of?
14:37 <@SuMo_D> http://www.evilmadscientist.com/2006/make-a-cylon-jack-o-lantern/
14:39 < Shadow404> neat, and the light bar can be used for other fun stuff
14:39 <@SuMo_D> yeeeeees
14:39 < Shadow404> making the gf a parking sensor for the garage as its her spot is a bit tight.....if you know what i mean
14:39 <@SuMo_D> that's cool
14:40 <@opticron> dude...leave her ears alone
14:40 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBbS1g9ReE8
14:40 < GateKeeper> Title: UNDERGROUND FIGHT CLUB Top Shelf Official Lyric Video - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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14:45 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: What is houseplant's name?
14:45 <@Evilpig> mongo?
14:46 <@Dolemite> yeah
14:46 <@Evilpig> or you mean the one on his paycheck?
14:46 < Shadow404> looking to hire a scapegoat?
14:46 <@Evilpig> looking for a way to eliminate precious life giving oxygen in your environment?
14:50 <@Evilpig> guessing mongo was the answer?
14:50 <@Dolemite> Name on his paycheck was what I was looking for, but I figured it out via peoplefinder
14:52 <@aestetix> penis
14:52  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
14:58 <@SuMo_D> this cold needs to die....
14:58 <@SuMo_D> die die die
15:03 <@aestetix> die bart, die
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15:07 < Shadow404> aestetix: keep your herpes raver ridden penis far far away form me aestetix
15:08 <@aestetix> Shadow404: what about the children
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15:08 < RangerZ1> http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/house-stenographer-holy-spirit-moved-me-98486.html
15:08 < GateKeeper> Title: House stenographer: Holy Spirit moved me - Jose DelReal - POLITICO.com (at www.politico.com)
15:09 < dc0de> what? people still believe in invisible friends?
15:09 < RangerZ1> shouldn't she be admitted for psychotherapy then? if she is seeing hallucinations
15:10 < Shadow404> aestetix: keep it away from themm too
15:10 < Shadow404> pervert!
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15:29 <@SuMo_D> yeah... mental illness... our country does such a good job with taking care of people with it... truly...
15:31 <@rattle> I'm pretty sure if I had to listen to and write down everything said in the House, I'd go mad too.
15:32 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: ping
15:32 <@Dolemite> pong
15:35 < _specialk_> holy crap.. why is K&R so expensive these days?
15:35 < _specialk_> http://www.amazon.com/C-Programming-Language-2nd-Edition/dp/0131103628/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382038332&sr=8-1&keywords=c+programming+language <-- k&r 2nd edition == $46 ?!
15:40 <@aestetix> http://www.infowars.com/internal-tsa-documents-body-scanners-pat-downs-not-for-terrorists/
15:45 <@Corydon76-home> _specialk_: it's a textbook.  It's always been expensive
15:46 < frsilent> wat
15:46 < frsilent> I got my k&r like 5 years ago for <$5
15:46 <@Corydon76-home> Used?
15:47 < frsilent> yes
15:47 < frsilent> also, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8477965/is-kr-c-still-applicable
15:47 < frsilent> there's a lot of criticism directed towards it since C has been standardized
15:48 <@rattle> aestetix: You just used InfoWars as a news source.  Everytime you do that, Alex Jones kills a kitten.
15:48 <@Corydon76-home> The second edition covers ANSI C
15:49 < _specialk_> yeah i have second edition
15:49 < _specialk_> i just dont remmber it being that expensive
15:49 < _specialk_> for a 200 page book thats like 20 years old
15:49 < _specialk_> heh
15:49 <@Corydon76-home> Do you remember something called inflation?
15:50 < _specialk_> yeah
15:51 < _specialk_> $34.41 (Apr 01, 2009)  - $68.43 (Nov 17, 2011)
15:51 < _specialk_> low and high point
15:51 <@SuMo_D> rattle I was thinking the same thing... but I think its more Alex Jones spawns another kaiju in the depth of the ocean
15:53 <@rattle> SuMo_D: I like yours better.
15:54 <@SuMo_D> I think it looks kinda like this
15:54 <@SuMo_D> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqUk28OwHs
15:54 < GateKeeper> Title: Alex Jones becomes a Super Saiyan - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:57 <@Evilpig> howto screenshot on mac?
15:57 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: you don't
15:57 < RangerZ1> Apple doesn't want you to do that
15:57 <@Evilpig> fuck you, need an answer
15:58 < RangerZ1> there is an app called 'grab'
15:58 < RangerZ1> friend with mac sitting next to me, doesn't know a keyboard shortcut
15:58 <@Evilpig> cmd shift 3
15:58 < RangerZ1> Command-Shift-3
15:59 < RangerZ1> http://guides.macrumors.com/Taking_Screenshots_in_Mac_OS_X
15:59 < GateKeeper> Title: Taking Screenshots in Mac OS X - Mac Guides (at guides.macrumors.com)
15:59 <@SuMo_D> Command+shift+4
15:59 <@SuMo_D> lets you take a portion of the screen
15:59 <@SuMo_D> if you don't need the whole thing... its super helpful
16:00 <@Evilpig> I needed the whole thing
16:00 <@SuMo_D> k - well for future ref
16:01 <@Evilpig> It appears that I am missing some rights in the ticket system here and I needed to screenshot it
16:02 <@Dolemite> Later, kiddos
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16:03 <@Evilpig> damnit aestetix.  you ran him off
16:04 <@Evilpig> btw... I was asked what my favorite tumblr site is so they can announce it? maybe?  tomorrow when I get put on display as the new guy and I told them it was aestetix.tumblr.com
16:04 <@Evilpig> I didn't explain why it was
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16:05 < frsilent> should probably throw up a nsfw on that
16:05 < frsilent> lol
16:05 <@Evilpig> aestetix: so you could possibly save me tomorrow if you would be so kind as to maybe put your mug up on your site.  :D  you know so I don't have to go digging for your pn speaker pic
16:05 < frsilent> good thing my coworkers don't pay attention...
16:06 <@Evilpig> frsilent: I thought everyone knew that?  thats the running joke cause it isn't aestetix's
16:06 < frsilent> lol
16:06 <@aestetix> on what site
16:06 <@Evilpig> your .net
16:06 <@Evilpig> that old thing you haven't touched in god knows when
16:06 <@aestetix> what situation did you get into now
16:06 <@Evilpig> you're my favorite tumblr site
16:07 <@Evilpig> I figure I might have to splainin' to do tomorrow
16:07 <@aestetix> I'm a tumblr site?
16:07 <@SuMo_D> yeah apparently its full of vagina
16:08 <@Evilpig> Welcome! :)
16:08 <@Evilpig> You will be introduced to everyone at our all-team meeting tomorrow (these happen every Friday at 12). Please get back to me with the first thing that comes to mind for the following. You can be serious or funny with your answers. :) 
16:08 <@Evilpig> Hometown
16:08 <@Evilpig> Favorite NYC spot
16:08 <@Evilpig> Hidden talent
16:08 <@Evilpig> Hobbies
16:08 <@Evilpig> Favorite tumblr
16:08 <@Evilpig> Top 3 tracked tags
16:08 <@Evilpig> Favorite app
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16:09 <@aestetix> Oh jesus.
16:09 <@aestetix> This is gonna go on the tumblr website or something?
16:09 <@aestetix> hahha
16:09 <@Evilpig> no no no.  far worse
16:09 <@aestetix> what?
16:09 <@Evilpig> live.  in front of the entire company
16:09 <@Evilpig> noon est tomorrow
16:09 <@Evilpig> I can only pray they don't pull that tumblr up
16:09 <@aestetix> So my photo along with a porn blog?
16:09 <@oddball> Favorite NYC spots: "I just got here, so... uh... the airport?"
16:10 <@aestetix> No. Favorite NYC spot: "Lucky Chang's"
16:10 <@SuMo_D> Brooklyn Women's Rugby Football Club!
16:10 <@Evilpig> shoudl they ask why the hhell that is my favorite.  it would be nice to say "cause it amuses me that it isn't my buddy aestetix (here this is him)"
16:10 <@SuMo_D> Boo yah!
16:10 <@Evilpig> wtf is lucky changs?
16:10 <@aestetix> You can use the PhreakNIC pic :p
16:11 <@aestetix> Evilpig: it's the most famous trans bar in NYC
16:11 <@Evilpig> Yeah I know I can. :P
16:11 <@oddball> hidden talent: "if I told you, it wouldn't be hidden."
16:11 < Shadow404> ok this is pretty funny
16:11 <@aestetix> http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/lucky-chengs/
16:11 < Shadow404> love the simon pegg start wars
16:11 <@aestetix> "Lucky Cheng's is better known for its cross-dressing waitstaff than its cuisine."
16:12 <@aestetix> Evilpig: you should totally put that as your favorite NYC dig
16:13 <@aestetix> Evilpig: alternatively you could use my twitter account
16:14 <@aestetix> man there are some hot photos on my tumblr
16:14 <@SuMo_D> I forget the name of the rugby club that's actually closer to you... they own their own bar, cool chicks... they're in Jersey not sure if that counts at a NYC sport
16:15 <@Evilpig> aestetix: how did you forget coming in here one night before after finding your tumblr and we all ended up looking at it
16:15 <@SuMo_D> http://www.brooklynwomensrugby.org/
16:15 < GateKeeper> Title: Brooklyn Women's Rugby (at www.brooklynwomensrugby.org)
16:16 <@aestetix> I didn't forget it
16:16 <@aestetix> I just haven't looked at it in a while
16:16 <@aestetix> oh wait
16:16 <@aestetix> I have a photo you can use
16:16 <@Evilpig> I just had a sudden flash of paic
16:16 <@Evilpig> panic
16:16 <@aestetix> https://twitter.com/starchy/status/380889103333466113/photo/1
16:16 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / starchy: The signing: @DanielEllsberg, ... (at twitter.com)
16:17 <@aestetix> I'm the one on the right
16:17 <@Evilpig> heh. that'll work
16:17 <@aestetix> sweet
16:17 <@aestetix> Nixon and vagina. What a great combination.
16:18 <@SuMo_D> yes
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16:18 <@aestetix> if anyone asks, I now have that mask framed
16:18 <@Evilpig> and the truth if anyone of consequence asks?
16:18 <@aestetix> Evilpig: I didn't do it.
16:19 < dc0de> aestetix: you've finally gained some weight!
16:20 <@Corydon76-home> dc0de: that disproves the theory that he's a vampire
16:21 < dc0de> well, it could just be "blood weight"...
16:22 <@Corydon76-home> Of course, he does sparkle a little bit in sunlight.
16:25  * SuMo_D throws glitter on everyone and runs away
16:26 <@Evilpig> good thing I don't have a wife/girlfriend to explain the whore glitter to
16:29 <@SuMo_D> but see.... glitter is the herpes of crafting products... it'll never leave you... you'll never escape
16:29 <@SuMo_D> shiny foooooooooooooreeeeeeeevaaaaaaaaaar
16:31 <@Evilpig> and herpes are the glitter of strippers?  you get two kinds of glitter from strippers?
16:32 <@SuMo_D> if you're lucky
16:36 <@Evilpig> http://geekologie.com/2013/10/grody-toilet-themed-restarant-opens-in-l.php    uhhhhh
16:37 < GateKeeper> Title: Grody: Toilet Themed Restarant Opens In Los Angeles | Geekologie (at geekologie.com)
16:37 <@Evilpig> "'bloody number two' (vanilla-strawberry sundae)") is served in little ceramic toilet bowls.
16:37 < Shadow404> named after Corydon76-home's partners
16:38 < Shadow404> ....
16:38 <@Corydon76-home> Uh, no
16:39 <@aestetix> lol
16:40 <@SuMo_D> hmmmm
16:41 <@aestetix> dc0de: have I actually gained weight?
16:41 <@aestetix> I didn't think that was possible
16:41 < dc0de> perhaps 1/2 lb
16:41 <@aestetix> how can you tell
16:42 <@aestetix> ..... do you look at photos of me on a regular basis?
16:48 < Shadow404> that will be part of his new job working as an nsa contractor
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17:27 < dc0de> http://imgur.com/gallery/YlxIU
17:27 < GateKeeper> Title: 4 ways to please your man - Imgur (at imgur.com)
17:27 < dc0de> someone finally wrote down the rules...
17:35 <@SuMo_D> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1QdZgVTIB0
17:35 < GateKeeper> Title: The Evolution of Peggy Olson (Mad Men Supercut) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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18:03 <@Evilpig> really wanting to rebuild my pc.
18:03 <@Evilpig> http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/wishlist/wishlist.asp?WishId=A37B28DC-641D-4C12-B9C0-A0D08790C6CA
18:03 < GateKeeper> Title: Wish List TigerDirect.com (at www.tigerdirect.com)
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18:10 < RangerZ> Sorry, something went wrong.
18:10 < RangerZ> A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation.
18:10 < RangerZ> If you see them, show them this information:
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18:10 < RangerZ> gotta love youtube's error string start
18:10 < RangerZ> lol
18:12 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2-dsxzmbxY
18:12 < GateKeeper> Title: Artist Makes Faces From Strangers DNA Found in Public - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:12 < RangerZ> eww
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19:20 <@aestetix> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/world/snowden-says-he-took-no-secret-files-to-russia.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
20:15 < RangerZ1> why should he, can can still have them on a MEGA or DROPBOX server
20:16 < RangerZ1> and never have to have them physically in .RU
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20:28 <@aestetix> god
20:28 <@aestetix> the fauxminists strike again
20:28 <@aestetix> http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/10/17/if_theres_anyth.html
20:28 < GateKeeper> Title: Advice Goddess Blog (at www.advicegoddess.com)
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21:09 < RangerZ1> https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1378434_677015995644281_1297127080_n.jpg lol
21:09 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: You have POkemon?
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21:11 < RangerZ1> yeah
21:11 < RangerZ1> figured I'd pick it up and check it out
21:11 <@Dagmar> Ahh... X or Y?
21:11 < RangerZ1> X
21:12 <@Dagmar> Okay.  Ill have to get Y then
21:12 <@Dagmar> Jesus I can't math
21:12 <@Dagmar> Filesystem is 2Gb, contains 1.7Gb.  I need to increase size to get it below 70%.
21:12 <@Dagmar> I used a calculator, still came up with 4Gb.
21:12 < RangerZ1> LOL
21:12 <@Dagmar> ...as in that I needed to add 4G.
21:13 < RangerZ1> 1.7 / .7 = 2.42...
21:13 < RangerZ1> meaning you need 2.5 GB of HDD to get 1.7 to be less than 70%
21:13 <@Dagmar> Yah I saw a four and thought gigglebytes
21:14 < RangerZ1> gigglebytes?
21:14 < RangerZ1> you need sleep
21:14 <@Dagmar> No, I need fewer pedants.
21:15 <@Dagmar> If you say Gibibytes someone will invariably claim you're wrong.  If you say gigabytes, someone will still say you're wrong.
21:15 <@Dagmar> Because the fucking linquistics majors don't understand base-2.
21:15 <@Dagmar> Gigglebytes are the about a thousand somethings that I goddamn well say they are, and they're always right
21:15 < RangerZ1> 3DS friend code: 2938, 6503, 4334
21:16 <@Dagmar> I haven't even bought the unit yet
21:16 < RangerZ1> ohh ok
21:17 <@Dagmar> I may be running out for that in a few minutes tho
21:17 < RangerZ1> you'll probably want the black 3DS XL, if you are looking for 'new' device
21:17 <@Dagmar> You should probably examine that sentence carefully for needless fluff.
21:17 < RangerZ1> well, just letting you know that they 'just' came out with a 'black' unit
21:17 <@Dagmar> "you'll probably want the black 3DS XL".  Fixed.
21:18 <@Dagmar> Yeah I have it in my cart
21:18 <@Dagmar> Because _black_
21:21 < RangerZ1> yeah, honestly, I don't know how I feel about the new pokemon, they did a lot of nice things, but its obvious that nintendo needs new blood in their game design depts
21:21 < RangerZ1> the online battles, and online trading is great
21:21 < RangerZ1> I got the lvl 50 Y boxart rare pokemon by trading a common lvl 35
21:21 < RangerZ1> which is nice
21:22 < RangerZ1> I think I'm kinda just spoiled by Fire Emblem, which is probably one of the best games this year
21:25 <@Dagmar> It needs Tactics Ogre stuff
21:25 < RangerZ1> it is bascially
21:25 < RangerZ1> same general play type
21:28 <@Dagmar> It's not isometric
21:28 <@Dagmar> They're finally bringing FFTA to Android in US
21:28 <@Dagmar> Shouold be in the next couple months
21:29 <@Dagmar> It's already out in JP
21:29 < RangerZ1> yeah it is
21:29 < RangerZ1> ohh,
21:29 < RangerZ1> hmm... its close
21:29 < RangerZ1> but yeah, SE is actually doing a lot to bring stuff to android
21:30 < RangerZ1> apparently dragon quest 1 through 8 are coming
21:32 < RangerZ1> http://www6.pcmag.com/media/images/313774-fire-emblem-awakening-gameplay.jpg it is basiclly the same as tactics, just the grid is horizontal/vertical rather than at 45degrees
21:36 <@Dagmar> Doesn't matter much since i'm getting Pokemon Y and that indentured servitude game
21:38 <@Dagmar> Time to get back onna bike
21:45 <@Evilpig> Victory!  
21:47 < RangerZ1> you got a NYC girl's number?
21:47 < RangerZ1> or did you just swipe it off her tumblr account? lol
21:48 <@Evilpig> nah.  got dagmar to go get a 3ds
21:49 < RangerZ1> ahh
21:49 < RangerZ1> lol
21:59 <@eryc> woo $170k in gta
21:59 <@eryc> 1 more day of grinding and i'll have my shiny apt
22:22 <@Dagmar> Hehe.  At this point even _I'm_ waiting for my first quarter-mil apology
22:22 <@Dagmar> I can't really play GTAV this late in the evening anyway if I ever want to sleep
22:23 <@Dagmar> Maybe things'll work a bit diffrently now that I've got my bike back
22:24 <@Dagmar> I *suspect* the guy may have left something a little loose on the engine, because I don't remember it being quite this loud when I really twist it
22:25 <@Dagmar> ...but it still doesn't sound like someone banging soup cans together, and it has sort of been like three years since I've been on it without the stereo going full blast
22:25 <@Dagmar> Heh I could easily be mistaken about the relative loudness
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22:47 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you're gonna need this number later. 5155-3870-3970
22:52 <@Dagmar> got it
22:54 <@Dagmar> I dislike ALL the noses, and my automatic Mii looks like David Duchovny
22:54 <@Dagmar> *grumblegrumble*
22:58 <@Evilpig> let me and rangerz know when you have your code
22:59 <@Dagmar> will do
23:01 < RangerZ1> also, dagmar, you'll want to just carry it around with you in standby mode, because games give you 'things' and you can earn in game 'stuff' by 'walking'
23:01 < RangerZ1> (I don't know if you have a bookbag, but you get the point)
23:03 <@Evilpig> apparently I ran into three people witht he new pokemon game on monday.  
23:07 < RangerZ1> i rode the greyhound back home this weekend, and met like 40 people
23:07 < RangerZ1> 2 were playing pokemon
23:07 < RangerZ1> i remet the same people over and over
23:07 < RangerZ1> kinda gamed the system, but it worked
23:07 < RangerZ1> lol
23:09 <@Dagmar> Finally.  4957-3527-0530
23:10 <@Evilpig> confirmed
23:21 < RangerZ1> added
23:22 <@SuMo_D> Hey besides pronterface what other 3D printer controllers come to mind, printrun... ?
23:23 <@SuMo_D> Repetier host I think has the slicer and controls in one right?
23:26 <@Evilpig> interesting  http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/user/I-272-6389-F/profile
23:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Pokémon Global Link (at 3ds.pokemon-gl.com)
23:27 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: they are going to hold online tournaments, and other things like that
23:28 < RangerZ1> through that site, think of it like wow armory
23:28 <@Dagmar> There'll probably be a thing like BLack/White had as well
23:28 <@Dagmar> Geez I wonder if I can import those guys
23:28 <@Dagmar> Ugh no wait I think Opheria wiped e
23:28 <@Dagmar> m
23:29 <@Evilpig> neat
23:31 < RangerZ1> yes, you can import your white/black white2/black2 pokemon
23:31 < RangerZ1> you send them to your 'boxes'
23:31 < RangerZ1> then use them
23:31 <@SuMo_D> so... no 3D printers in here?
23:31 < RangerZ1> have room for like 700 pokemon now
23:31 < RangerZ1> SuMo_D: sorry, i wish
23:31 <@SuMo_D> the pokemon ate them all didn't they
23:32 < RangerZ1> Catonic has one
23:32 < RangerZ1> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1351910088/3doodler-the-worlds-first-3d-printing-pen/posts/632262
23:33 <@SuMo_D> my friend back home in Nevada wants to try to get one for her classroom but she was like uhhh the driver is only for windows 8... and I'm like... errr nope
23:33 < RangerZ1> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1351910088/3doodler-the-worlds-first-3d-printing-pen/
23:33 < GateKeeper> Title: 3Doodler: The World's First 3D Printing Pen by WobbleWorks LLC. Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com)
23:33 < RangerZ1> hmm, there we go
23:33 <@SuMo_D> yeah I've seen that
23:33 < RangerZ1> I'm getting one of those, next month
23:33 <@Dagmar> I had one of those when I was a kid
23:33 <@Dagmar> It's called a pen knife.
23:33 <@SuMo_D> cool - I hear its like a big glue gun with ABS
23:33 < RangerZ1> gonna be a nice xmas gift for my mom
23:33 < RangerZ1> yeah, pretty much
23:33 <@SuMo_D> :)
23:33 < RangerZ1> she's artsy
23:33 <@Dagmar> I suppose you could probably shove Crayolas into a hot glue gun
23:33 <@SuMo_D> I love my little printrbot jr
23:34 <@SuMo_D> and its been a ton of good PR for the stuff I'm doing around town.... its really nicely portable too - isn't as cranky as CNwaV's Mendel
23:34 < RangerZ1> SuMo_D: you might want to look at their PLA/ABS prices/choices, they have some nice colors, etc
23:35 <@SuMo_D> yeah I just print PLA.... I can't handle the fumes from ABS
23:35 < RangerZ1> hmm, looks like 'bulk' would be cheaper
23:35 < RangerZ1> but i figured that
23:35 <@SuMo_D> we had one guy in our maker space before we died the horrible death that figured out how to cold print nylon
23:35 < RangerZ1> nylon printing has existed 50 years ;)
23:36 <@SuMo_D> I need to make some money... but I think I want to try to build a Reprap Morgan http://reprap.org/wiki/File:DSC0382-682x1024.jpg
23:36 <@SuMo_D> I've also seen it called a Delta
23:36 <@SuMo_D> but yeah... whatever it is - its pretty spiffy and doesn't take too much to actually get it up and going
23:36 <@Dagmar> "You've exited the meny.  When you do this your 3DS can remember to ask you more silly questions later when it's out of Sleep Mode.  Turn this feature on?"
23:36 <@Dagmar> This thing NEEDS a "turn on all the things and stop asking fucking questions" mode
23:36 <@SuMo_D> yeah they usually just sell the ABS/PLA by the kg
23:37 <@SuMo_D> you have to be careful the shit they sell on Amazon from jet filament is kinda shit
23:37 <@SuMo_D> the glow in the dark works well... but yeah I think it has something to do when they do the pigmentation, the "natural" always seems to work best
23:39 <@Dagmar> Okay.  This is interesting.
23:39 <@Dagmar> http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/625899-streetpass-mii-plaza/67241394
23:39 < GateKeeper> Title: At the risk of sounding stupid, whats Homepass? - StreetPass Mii Plaza Message Board for 3DS - GameFAQs (at www.gamefaqs.com)
23:39 <@Dagmar> aperson just opined I might be the type of person to have a homepass set up, and I had to google it
23:39 <@SuMo_D> and yeah nylon printing has existed 50 years... but you don't usually see it in 3D printers... for whatever reason... but its got the strength of ABS without the smell -
23:51 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SSCdKM5o5k
23:51 < GateKeeper> Title: Tales of Xillia 2 Is Looking Mighty Good - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:51 < RangerZ> i'm looking forward to this more than kingdom hearts 3 or anything else
23:53 <@Dagmar> Okay.  This Homepass thing is hilariously slick
23:53 < RangerZ1> I might have to check it out
23:54 <@Dagmar> Do you know about the Streetpass Relay thing/
23:54 < RangerZ1> not really
23:54 <@Dagmar> Okay, so like at Best Buy and Walmart where they sell these things thet have a device set up your 3DS can talk to there, right?
23:55 <@Dagmar> McDonalds, Starbucks, and tons of other places have these things as well.
23:55 <@Dagmar> They all act as Streetpass Relay locations, which is basically a one-person caching streetpass repeater
23:55 < RangerZ1> ahh
23:55 <@Dagmar> You go to the thing, your 3DS sees it, and talks to it as if it were the 3DS of the last person who was there.
23:56 <@Dagmar> They're all apparently being identified by the _mac address_ they show
23:56 < RangerZ1> ohh.....
23:56 < RangerZ1> i see....
23:56 <@Dagmar> You set an essid of 'attwifi' and spoof the mac, and let your DS talk to it
23:57 <@Dagmar> I'm like, Hmm... I could actually spoof a different mac every few minutes
23:57 <@Dagmar> ...but without doing that you could just continue to spoof a location you know the MAC of
23:58 <@Dagmar> So, if you dig around a bti you can find a *list* people have been putting together of the ones they've been spoofing, which lets you all kinda go nuts
23:58 <@Dagmar> because every time you talk to a streetpass relay which has cached 3DS data, yours takes its' place
23:59 <@Dagmar> I'm being told the lower bounds delay is 90s
23:59 <@Dagmar> Don't change the mac more often than that and it's a new streetpass contact every 5-6 minutes
23:59 <@Dagmar> That's hilarious
23:59 < RangerZ1> lol....
23:59 < RangerZ1> yeah... that is
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