--- Log opened Mon Oct 14 00:00:54 2013
00:05 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: http://www.nfib.com/business-resources/business-resources-item?cmsid=55591
00:05 < GateKeeper> Title: 8 Surefire Ways to Demotivate Your Employees | NFIB (at www.nfib.com)
00:05 <@Dagmar> We're actually doing _most_ of those things.
00:05 <@Dagmar> 2, 3, 5, 7 and 8.
00:06 <@SuMo_D> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOtdH5ECJIo&list=RD35WOtdH5ECJIo
00:06 < GateKeeper> Title: Red Button TV: Kinect meets DJ - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:08 <@Dagmar> sadly, that's fake as hell
00:08 <@Dagmar> Dude might as well be lip-synching
00:09 <@Dagmar> It would be awesome if it were real
00:18 <@SuMo_D> makes me want to try
00:19 <@Dagmar> Latency.
00:19 <@Dagmar> It's a bitch
00:19 <@Dagmar> If you used ordinary light-beam interruption sensors you could get away withit
00:19 <@SuMo_D> http://www.custom-logic.com/blog/v-motion-project-the-instrument/
00:21 <@Dagmar> "Unfortunately, this control and flexibility comes at a price. the system has a significant lag."
00:22 <@SuMo_D> yeah I mean its obvious its just a big mixer... but its still o_O
00:22 <@Dagmar> I find it somewhat disingenous that the video talks about Kinect, but the _actual_ wizardry is in what people abused the hardware to do
00:23 <@Dagmar> It doesn't look like they used any of Microsoft's code past the driver level
00:23 <@SuMo_D> true
00:23 <@Dagmar> This is kind of an old problem.  Latency will *fuck you*
00:23 <@SuMo_D> yep
00:24 <@Dagmar> Anyone who's tried to play Guitar Hero on a TV that's doing rescaling can definitely attest to that
00:24 <@SuMo_D> we're struggling with with that with the LED matrix boards
00:25 <@SuMo_D> I think we got it kind of under control at least for now...
00:26 <@SuMo_D> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkhcwXpYy4&list=RD35WOtdH5ECJIo
00:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Tetris Theme on Laser Harp - Theremin Hero LIVE! Finale - Gamecity 5 Nottingham - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:28 <@Dagmar> well... fuck
00:28 <@Dagmar> ps -C process -u user does an _or_ not an _and_ like I expected
00:29 <@Dagmar> Damnit
00:30 <@SuMo_D> :(
00:33 <@Dagmar> Yeah I got some weird results a moment ago so I tried ps -C flarb -u apache -o pid= and actually got values.
00:33 <@Dagmar> blech
00:34 <@SuMo_D> I hate that shit... where it works one min. and not the other
00:34 <@Dagmar> Well, I'm just glad I found this out
00:34 <@SuMo_D> always with some damn . or ' or ; in some wrong place
00:34 <@SuMo_D> or just you know... gremlins
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02:02 <@Dagmar> Okay.  Got the wrangler upgraded...
02:03 <@Dagmar> ...and sent off the one and only one email I'm giving the ESX admin about what the SAN is doing before washing my hands of doing his job for him.
02:22 <@Dagmar> Hmm... maple bacon jerky?
02:22 <@Dagmar> Woulnd't that be "super slow-cooked bacon"?
02:56 < RangerZ> http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_24290808/apple-offers-sneak-peek-at-its-new-headquarters?source=rss queue "largest cock ring to screw over customers ever" jokes
02:56 < GateKeeper> Title: Apple's new headquarters: An exclusive sneak peek - San Jose Mercury News (at www.mercurynews.com)
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06:28 <@Evilpig> I think this is exactly how I described this to lastchild. http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-CjTPdrr/0/950x10000/i-CjTPdrr-950x10000.jpg
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07:44 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:46 < Shadow404> what up freaks
07:47 < Shadow404> Corydon76-home: good news on the script/politics front
07:51 < Shadow404> Evilpig: agreed
08:14 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: sweet
08:16 < Shadow404> Corydon76-home: yeah, apparently another department caught wind of the automated reports i was able to produce each morning and they want me to build something like that to use in the lab
08:16 < Shadow404> completely different data set from gathering router/node statistics, but seems doable
08:17 < Shadow404> but nice to be noticed and requested
08:17 <@Corydon76-home> Router statistics sounds like an SNMP request service, along with RRDtool
08:17 <@Dolemite> Cacti is your friend
08:17 < Shadow404> thats one thing im doing
08:18 < Shadow404> we have another program that builds all the info into an xml and my script parses that and builds the reports
08:18 < Shadow404> but it also logs into the routers that need checking (ping high/latency high) and runs commands to provide output that is also built into the reports
08:18 < Shadow404> so it automatically digs into the ones that need more info
08:20 < Shadow404> then that report gets look at by tier 3 for daily checking, saving a lot of time
08:26 < Shadow404> ill bascially be doing the same thing in the lab, but some extended commands
08:29 <@aestetix> penis
08:30 < Shadow404> vagina
08:57 <@aestetix> man I just wasted a great fart I could have used on the train
09:01 < Shadow404> Evilpig: those gremlins are awesome, just sent 40 or so out and got double return on them 4 hours later
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09:44 <@Dolemite> What is this game you are playing?
09:45 <@Dickie> Lego Clockwork Orange
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10:03 < nachoguy> mr0nin
10:09 <@Dolemite> Hola, senor nacho
10:22 < nachoguy> how goes?
10:29 <@Dolemite> About as well as it can be with the current uncertainty over whether I'm about to be dumped into the job market along with hundreds of thousands of other government contractors
10:38 <@Mirage> y0!
10:39 <@Mirage> Anyone know which port range needs to be tunneled to get ESX remote consoles to work?  I thought it was just 902, but it's not working remotely/
10:49 <@Dagmar> I've no idea, since they don't let me touch those here unless something's wrong with them.
10:50 <@Dagmar> LOL I emailed itsunixadmins last night explaining what's been going on with the SAN and Sean sends back "Please provide supporting data and configuration details.  There may be more than one thing at work here."
10:50 <@Dagmar> It was hard not to say "Dig that up your damn self."
10:50 <@Dolemite> Is that your 'architect' guy?
10:51 <@Dagmar> Oh yes.
10:51 <@Dagmar> He can damn well look in Cacti and read the emails nagios spewed out all weeked.
10:51 <@Dagmar> I'm not spoon-feeding him this stuff, and I don't think he realizes that if he tries to act like he's my boss, I'll walk out the door.
10:51 <@Dagmar> I will *not* work _for_ him.
10:52 <@Dagmar> He's already tried to give me orders once.
10:59 <@Evilpig> greetings from tumblr... bitches
10:59 <@Mirage> Dagmar: How many f*ing times do they need to be told what the root cause of all the SAN I/O issues?  The EAI Storage Team (Nathan) figured that out and reported it through channels a month or two  before I left.
10:59 <@Mirage> Evilpig: eat it
10:59 <@aestetix> vagina
10:59 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: for the record ssh-keygen on a macbook air does generate rsa keys by default
11:00 <@Evilpig> WOOOOO!  lasik is covered by vision next year!
11:01 < Shadow404> aestetix: in that case its gonna be penis
11:02 <@Evilpig> highest health plan option for me is $62 a month
11:04 <@aestetix> Evilpig: fwiw I always go with the most expensive health care
11:04 <@aestetix> since I don't want to show up at the ER and have them be like "oh sorry you're not covered for ___"
11:04 <@Evilpig> I'm gonna look them over closely but they have a single guy option of $0 for everythig that is pretty enticing
11:08 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Okay, I've no idea what the fuck our idiot DBAs have done to their macbooks then
11:08 <@Dagmar> Ah the joys of breaking in a noob
11:09 <@Evilpig> aestetix: I get up to 5 visits with a lawyer for any issue that comes up.  so when I get tired of you sexually harassing me I can call a lawyer free
11:09 <@Dagmar> "What good does this firewall policy do?  The first rule allows all traffic from anywhere!"
11:09 <@Dagmar> I finally get him to cough up which line he's looking at.
11:09 <@Dagmar> ...he managed to not see the -i lo
11:09 <@Evilpig> I can buy yahoo stock for 10% less than the current price, once a year
11:10 <@Dagmar> evilpig: I like their legal plan
11:11 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: it's supposed to be for sure like buying houses, help with college financial docs, etc.  but it is open for anything
11:12 <@Evilpig> they reimburse $5250 a year for tuition and books as long as it applies to my career
11:12 <@Dagmar> Hehehe
11:12 <@Dagmar> Oh hell
11:12 <@Evilpig> phreaknic will be benefiting
11:12 <@aestetix> Evilpig: like you'll ever get tired of me
11:12 <@Evilpig> yahoo will match up to $1000 that I give to a 501(c)(3) each year
11:12 <@aestetix> nice!
11:13 <@aestetix> You should donate to the EFF
11:13 <@Evilpig> or phreaknic
11:13 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: For consistency, you should instead say, "Grtings from tumblr...   bitchs"
11:13 <@aestetix> lol
11:13 <@Evilpig> I get a 15% discount for something called "task rabbit"
11:13 < Shadow404> Evilpig: same thing with verizon and school, pretty nice deal
11:13 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Is that one of those giant saddle mounted vibrators?
11:15 <@Evilpig> damnit dol.  I can't help but laugh now and derrick the hr guy has no idea why i'm laughing
11:15 <@aestetix> http://toys.usvsth3m.com/realistic-facebook-privacy-simulator/
11:15 < GateKeeper> Title: Realistic Facebook Privacy Simulator - by UsVsTh3m (at toys.usvsth3m.com)
11:15 <@Dagmar> I may need a lawyer if someone pushes their luck with me here just a wee bit more.
11:16 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: LOL
11:17 <@Evilpig> if I work past 7:30p tumblr buys dinner via a company called seamless
11:18 <@Dagmar> Damn.
11:18 <@aestetix> so
11:18 <@Dagmar> It looks like all that money has gone to Google's head.
11:18 <@Dagmar> http://i.imgur.com/txJCLLf.jpg
11:18 <@aestetix> is there someone whose job it is to manage all the porn tumblrs?
11:18 <@Evilpig> aestetix: are you wanting control of aestetix.tumblr.com?  lol
11:18 <@aestetix> hahah
11:18 <@Evilpig> that was mentioned during my interview
11:18 <@aestetix> what was mentioned
11:18 <@aestetix> my tumblr account? :p
11:19 <@Evilpig> yup
11:19 <@aestetix> how did that go :p
11:19 <@Evilpig> cause it was the only tumblr site I knew cause it amuses me
11:19 <@aestetix> hahaha
11:19 <@Dagmar> oh gawd
11:19 <@Evilpig> tumblr has the "fuck yeah" award.  how do you think me mentioning a porn tumblr went?
11:19 <@Dagmar> Well at least they know they don't have to worry about you seeing something terrible and running from the building
11:20 <@Evilpig> something terrible like the saddle mounted vibrator?
11:20 <@Evilpig> or maybe "balls deeps in a squeeling hog while firing a rifle into the air"
11:20 <@Dagmar> That, I would think, would be fairly mild in comparison to some of the shit these people get up to.
11:20 <@Dagmar> ...and that being "some of the shit"
11:21 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I'll bet you could actually play Cards Against Humanity with some of your coworkers
11:21 <@aestetix> Evilpig: I would prefer to get access to the models who are on the aestetix tumblr...
11:21 <@Dolemite> Definitely not so with most of the VU crowd
11:21 <@Dolemite> And not at all so with my ORNL crowd
11:24 <@Mirage> Dolemite: The new Mello Mushroom they just opened near me has Arrogant Bastard on tap....but not Guiness or Newcastle.
11:25 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Heh, I think it's a sign for you.
11:25 <@opticron> is that one of the new ones from stone?
11:25 <@Mirage> new what?
11:25 <@opticron> beer
11:25 <@Mirage> AB is not new
11:25 <@Dolemite> I did finally get my personalized mug, so basically I get the equivalent of 4 beers for the price of 3
11:26 <@Dolemite> And when I go to happy hour on Tue/Thu nights, they're all $2...   so very happy hour
11:26 <@opticron> Mirage, stone *just* started distributing to AL, so...new to me
11:26 <@Mirage> They do have an Oaked AB that is quite tasty, which I think is pretty new
11:26 <@Dolemite> Arrogant Bastard has been around for, gosh, around 10 years, now?
11:26 <@Dolemite> If not longer
11:26 <@opticron> heh
11:27 <@Dolemite> I haven't had a Newcastle in quite a while.  Since I was having to drink unique brews to get my points on the beer club...
11:27 <@Mirage> They had it at the Flying Saucer back when it was a good place to hang out..so it's been awhile.
11:28 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I'm thinking I saw it at the Saucer as early as 2001
11:28 <@Dagmar> This is the ale with the demon on the bottle, right?
11:28 <@Dagmar> If so, it's been around since like 2001 at least
11:29 <@Dolemite> High gravity, 20 oz bottle or so (never seen it in a 12 oz)
11:29 <@Dolemite> and yeah, demon drinking beer on the label
11:30 <@Mirage> I found a really good local beer store which carries a ton of stuff and will special order anything "Available via Distributors in TX".   About the only Left Hand available here is the Milk Stout and Milk Stout Nitro.   Had my heart set on some BlackJack
11:31 <@Dolemite> I've been enjoying releases from Victory, lately, along with the New Belgium seasonals
11:32 <@Evilpig> paychecks are 10 days delayed.  bah.
11:34 <@Evilpig> don't say anything that will get me fired
11:35 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: How was that tranny hooker that you met up with last night?
11:36 <@opticron> "boney"
11:36 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Do you still have any of that computer gear for sale that you stole from your last job?
11:36 < dc0de> Evilpig: does any of it include two laptops?
11:38 <@Dagmar> ....and the architect crosses another line
11:38 <@Dagmar> Now he's making material changes to the changes I propose
11:39 <@Dolemite> Oh, lord, another impromptu tour being given by someone with no clue what a supercomputer is
11:39 <@Dolemite> "This is Jaguar supercomputer.  It takes up the entire room."  -- FYI, Jaguar has been retired for 2 full years at this point
11:40 <@Dolemite> Fortunately for this guys guests he left quickly
11:40 < dc0de> Dolemite: nice...
11:41 <@Dagmar> I requested 10Gb be added to mysql02, he decided it needed a new 30Gb volume.
11:41 <@Dagmar> I'm only allocating 10Gb of it because that's what the change was approved for.
11:41 < Shadow404> playing cards against humanity at a bdsm party is just about the most perverted that game has gotten
11:41 < Shadow404> sereiously creative answers
11:41 <@Dagmar> I requested 2Gb be added to the existing volume of another box, he's having the VMware admin add a 2Gb volume alongside the 20Gb volume
11:42 <@Dagmar> ...which is fucking pointless.
11:42 < dc0de> Shadow404: if you're playing CAH at a BSDM party, you'd "doing it wrong".
11:42 < dc0de> just sayin'
11:42 < Shadow404> it was a house party, so the dungeon was already fully utilized
11:42 < Shadow404> and i was already drinking, so play + alcohol = red
11:43 < Shadow404> brb, food
11:50 <@Dolemite> Meetin' time
12:02 <@Evilpig> i'm gonna hvae to go with dcode on this one
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12:06 < dc0de> Evilpig: right?
12:06 < Shadow404> yeah, w/e, come to the next event with me both of you and then talk
12:07 < dc0de> Shadow404: send me the dates...
12:07 < Shadow404> 25th, just 2 miles north of sixflags at 7pm-2am
12:07 < dc0de> Shadow404: how much?
12:08 < Shadow404> $5
12:08 < dc0de> wow, so it's low rent.
12:08 < Shadow404> its on private property
12:08 < Shadow404> $5 covers food and expenses
12:08 < Shadow404> its a monthly party
12:08 < dc0de> is that the cost for everyone? or couples only?
12:08 < Shadow404> everyone
12:09 < dc0de> yeah, not so much...
12:09 < Shadow404> this isnt a swingers thing
12:09 < _specialk_> some things never change, it seems
12:09 < dc0de> that sounds like a sausage fest
12:09 < Shadow404> nope
12:10 < Shadow404> its about a good 48/48% with 4% other
12:12 < Shadow404> _specialk_: what are you getting at?
12:13 < _specialk_> haven't been here in years, but its all teh same people :)
12:13 <@Evilpig> the cool people stick around.  other losers come in under aliases
12:13 < _specialk_> indeed
12:14 < Shadow404> almost, alot of drama has caused some changes in the pop.
12:14 < _specialk_> now tahts some shit that really never changes..
12:14 < _specialk_> se2600 and drama.. good god
12:14 < _specialk_> heh
12:14 <@Corydon76-home> I wouldn't say a lot of drama anymore
12:14 < _specialk_> hi Corydon76~
12:14 < _specialk_> long time
12:15 <@Corydon76-home> Um, sure.  <scratches head>
12:15 < _specialk_> baud burn :)
12:15 < Shadow404> Corydon76-home: not recently now, but it has affected the lineup
12:15 < _specialk_> i retired that handle.
12:15 <@Corydon76-home> Ohhhh.
12:15 < Shadow404> ah yes, baudburn
12:15 < dc0de> Corydon76-home: I'm gonna start some drama with you dammit... !
12:15 < Shadow404> long time no see
12:15 <@Dolemite> Oh, nice, I was just needing to try to get in touch with you, Mr. Burn
12:15 < _specialk_> hi guys :)
12:15 < dc0de> _specialk_: you are baudburn?
12:15 < _specialk_> lol
12:15 < _specialk_> yeah
12:15 < dc0de> dick
12:15 < _specialk_> hi dol!
12:15 < dc0de> :P
12:15 <@Corydon76-home> dc0de: you're going to claim vaccines cause autism?
12:15 < dc0de> sure, why not.
12:16 < _specialk_> hi dc0de :)
12:16 < Shadow404> so does the gay virus
12:16 < _specialk_> hi Shadow404  :)
12:16 < Shadow404> hi _specialk_
12:16 < dc0de> and using deodorant causes alzheimers.
12:16 < _specialk_> Dolemite: what did you need?
12:16 < dc0de> there's proof, I read it on the interwebs.
12:16 <@Corydon76-home> Nice.
12:17 <@Corydon76-home> Or claim that fluoridation is making our kids stupid.
12:17 <@Evilpig> the internet is making kids stupid
12:17 <@Evilpig> damn you google!
12:18  * Evilpig shakes fist at google
12:18 < dc0de> Corydon76-home: if anyone wants to flaimbate, I will simply claim that wikipedia is true.
12:18 <@Corydon76-home> dc0de: no, no... that Wikipedia is a guide for things that are relevant
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12:20 <@Dolemite> ok, time to go get some grub while I can
12:21 < Shadow404> i doubt a schoolkid knows how to use a card catalog these days
12:21 <@Evilpig> dumb question.  how to lock a mac?
12:21 <@Mirage> Shadow404: I'm sure that's all computerized now.
12:22 <@Corydon76-home> I doubt there are very many libraries left which still use printed card catalogs
12:22 < Shadow404> Mirage: thats my point
12:22 < _specialk_> anwyay, nice to see you all, i'll be probably idling here for a while but not really paying attention..
12:22 < Shadow404> what happens when the computers go down?
12:22 <@Mirage> Evilpig: Hit it with a hammer
12:22 < dc0de> Mirage: shoot it with a large caliber weapon?
12:22 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: along the same vein, do you know how to sort punchcards?
12:22 < _specialk_> Evilpig: its in screensaver, and you can setup a hotkey
12:22 < Shadow404> _specialk_: and thats different from the rest how?
12:22 < _specialk_> or hotcorner
12:22 < Shadow404> Corydon76-home: nope
12:22 < _specialk_> Shadow404: i suppose its not :)
12:22 < dc0de> Corydon76-home: very carefully... :)
12:22 < Shadow404> lawl
12:23 <@Corydon76-home> Kids these days, they don't know how to sort punchcards.  How can you expect to be proficient in operating a computer if you cannot sort punchcards?
12:23 <@Mirage> I'd think most libraries would maintain a card catalog as a backup to the computer system...just in case.
12:24 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: that's what offsite tape backups are for
12:25 <@Mirage> Library books are analog..I'd thnk they would maintain an analog backup as well as a digital.
12:25 <@Corydon76-home> A printout?  Do you have a print out of any of the databases you maintain for a living?
12:26 <@Corydon76-home> Why would librarians be any different?
12:26 <@Mirage> Two totally different things, IMO.
12:26 < dc0de> Corydon76-home: can they boot a system from tape? from a reel-to-reel, or a cassette?
12:26 <@Mirage> The Card Catalog isn't a database..it's an index.
12:26 < dc0de> damned kids... think they know everything
12:26 < dc0de> Mirage: do you have a printed index of every index for every DB that you have?
12:26 <@Corydon76-home> Modern databases are well-indexed
12:27 <@rattle> Microfiche!
12:27 <@Mirage> rattle: tat works too
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12:27 < dc0de> rattle: that's still too new of technology... :)
12:27 <@rattle> Yeah, and it's flammable too, which is awesome.
12:28 < dc0de> and very pretty when it burns... and the smoke will kill you...
12:28 < dc0de> which is also awesome.
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12:29 <@rattle> A long time ago, in a galaxy far away..  I had a summer job operating a microfiche camera.  Most mind numbing job I ever had.
12:30 <@rattle> Hours, snapping pictures of old court documents.  Almost entirely divorces.
12:30 <@rattle> I should have learned something.
12:30 <@rattle> Clearly, didn't.
12:30 < oddball> Ok... that was wierd
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12:31 < dc0de> rattle: been divorced twice, still going to get re-married.
12:31 <@oddball> Sat down at my desk, and my linux box was locked up good and hard like, and the three indicator lights on the keyboard were blinking.
12:32 <@rattle> dc0de: Proof.  Even I'm smarter than you.  :)
12:32 < dc0de> rattle: not yet.
12:32 <@rattle> oddball: I got your data, if you need it.  :)
12:32 <@oddball> rattle: Cool, if you could just send some of my pm data, that would be great.  They had some job leads. :p
12:33 <@rattle> oddball: All I'm seeing is porn and warez..
12:33 <@oddball> Damnit!  You were monitoring the wrong computer!
12:34 <@oddball> I... uh... mean...
12:34 <@rattle> ? and pictures from reddit.
12:34 < dc0de> is anyone here messing around with low power sensor packages for anything?
12:35 <@oddball> dc0de: Oh!  Hey!  Long time no see.
12:35 < dc0de> oddball: hey man!
12:35 < dc0de> how's it going?
12:35 <@oddball> Eh... could be better, could be worse.
12:35 < dc0de> always...
12:37 < dc0de> today is a BIG day in my world... a pitch to investors at 4pm Eastern... determines if I'm going to move back to the Southeast.
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12:38 <@aestetix> you mean because of a job in the SE, or because you're broke? :p
12:38 < dc0de> aestetix: because of a job in the SE.
12:39 < dc0de> I'm not broke... :)  I'm poor.
12:39 < dc0de> or should I say, "I have had two divorces...."
12:40 <@oddball> heh... I guess the big question is "are you wanting the job in the SE, or is that the 'well... fuck' plan?"
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12:42  * dc0de is being asked to be the EVP of Technology at a company that is getting it's first round of funding in 30-60 days.
12:42 <@oddball> Ah, cool!
12:43 <@aestetix> what is an EVP
12:43 <@aestetix> executive vp?
12:45 < dc0de> yes.
12:45 < dc0de> I will be in charge of all technology...
12:45 < dc0de> with an option to move to CTO.
12:46 < NotLarry> dc0de: nice
12:47 < NotLarry> we will prepare the virgin
12:47 < Shadow404> NotLarry: isnt the only virgin aestetix ?
12:47 < Shadow404> hes not exactly clean
12:48 < Shadow404> rattle: what happen to the word "warez", i barely see it anymore, except for torrent search results
12:48 < dc0de> NotLarry: *** What's up ??? ****
12:49 < Shadow404> dc0de: keep us posted on the determination foh'sure dude
12:51 <@eryc> Shadow404: it got replaced by the word torrentz
12:54 < Shadow404> ahhh, ok
12:54 < Shadow404> i remember the old aol chat rooms that hat automated warez bots
12:54 < Shadow404> even compuserve had them
12:56 <@rattle> dc0de: Which company?
12:56 < dc0de> rattle: can't say... NDA and it's not 100% yet.
12:57 < dc0de> it's a startup....
12:57 < dc0de> that's all I can say.
12:57 < dc0de> and they're not a technology company.
12:57 < dc0de> no one here will really care what they do.
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12:59 <@rattle> Cool beans.  Give me a ring a ding ding when you've got budget and want to stop your endpoints from getting owned..  :)
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13:00 < Shadow404> dc0de: so basically its an NSA project and we "shouldn't care" unless we want to get a visit from the feds?
13:00 <@oddball> Shadow404: Eh, standard stuff until they actually open their doors.
13:02 <@oddball> Like my family owns some land that we're going into a commercial venture with someone with.  The details are boring as hell, and I seriously doubt anyone gives a shit outside of the group working out the details, but it's still hush hush.
13:02 < Shadow404> ive only had one fed visit and thats enough for a lifetime
13:03 <@oddball> Well, sorry... except for this asshole that owns half of Green Hills and has been trying to buy the land from my mom for beans literally since the morning my grandfather's death hit the obit's.
13:03 <@aestetix> dc0de: so it's facebook for dogs?
13:03 < dc0de> rattle: endpoints? what endpoints?
13:04 < dc0de> Shadow404: fed visits are easy... after the 5th or 6th one, they really get to know you, and only ask for a scat sample, and go away.
13:05 < Shadow404> heh, like i said, 1 was enough for me, and i wasn't the one they were going after
13:05 < dc0de> *meh*, I just ask them for their warrant... and they usually go away...
13:06 < dc0de> if they come back, I send them to my lawyer. If it's for work, I send them to the work Lawyers.
13:06 < Shadow404> well, what they wanted to know i was more than happy to help with given it was about the rocket engine instructions i posted online
13:07 < Shadow404> and the implications
13:07 < Shadow404> i got a rather interesting email i ignored
13:07 < Shadow404> and thats what they were asking me about
13:07 <@Evilpig> okay where is pgup and pgdn?
13:08 < dc0de> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/10/13/0144226/ucsd-students-test-fire-3d-printed-metal-rocket-engine
13:08 < GateKeeper> Title: UCSD Students Test Fire 3D-Printed Metal Rocket Engine - Slashdot (at hardware.slashdot.org)
13:08 <@Evilpig> need to scroll around in irssi 
13:08 <@Evilpig> n
13:08 <@Evilpig> nm
13:09 < Shadow404> yeah, mines at www.shadow404.com/125 if strick still has it hosted
13:09 < Shadow404> http://www.shadow404.com/125
13:09 < GateKeeper> Title: HomeMade Rocket Motors (at www.shadow404.com)
13:09 < Shadow404> thank you GateKeeper, he does apparently
13:10 < Shadow404> instead of a metal engine, i used cardboard for the motor
13:10 < dc0de> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k15hnT65IfM#t=14
13:10 < GateKeeper> Title: SEDS UCSD Tri-D Hot Fire - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:10 < dc0de> there's the youtube of the testing.
13:10 < dc0de> pretty awesome.
13:10 < dc0de> good burn too
13:11 < Shadow404> very cool, now thats a serious engine
13:11 < dc0de> and for $6800, it's really cheap... 200lbs of thrust...
13:11 < dc0de> lox and kerosene
13:12 < Shadow404> yeah, i dont have that sorta budget
13:12 < dc0de> but, realize, it's only going to get cheaper.
13:12 < Shadow404> ok
13:12 <@Corydon76-home> Unfortunately, 200 lbs of thrust is no longer sufficient to get my lead ass off the ground.
13:12 < Shadow404> hover?
13:13 <@Corydon76-home> I need to lose some weight
13:13 < dc0de> but in space, 200lbs is a LOT of thrust...
13:13 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: I need some of your genes; I hear you have the opposite problem.
13:13 < Shadow404> fuck, i hate when people update their apps to add new wonder features and then they just start crashing all the time, and they re-update the app 2 days later to fix it
13:14 < SuMo_D> Evilpig how was your city excursion?
13:14 < Shadow404> Corydon76-home: yep, im still taking medicine to increase my appetite
13:14 < dc0de> ahh, this explains all the negative people...
13:14 < dc0de> http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/10/13/0254227/gene-variant-can-cause-nattering-nabobs-of-negativity
13:14 < GateKeeper> Title: Gene Variant Can Cause Nattering Nabobs of Negativity - Slashdot (at science.slashdot.org)
13:14 <@aestetix> Shadow404: who needs QA when you have users
13:14 < Shadow404> aestetix: right
13:14 <@oddball> Evilpig: You ssh'ing from a mac?  Hit shift+pgup/pgdown.
13:15 < Shadow404> like, teamviewer was working great, they added a new feature to allow you to hear audio on the remote computer (kinda neat), but now it keeps crashing
13:15 < Shadow404> and all i need is to look at one folder
13:18 <@Evilpig> oddball: I don't have a pgup or pgdn key.  it's fn up arrow and fn down arrow
13:18 <@Evilpig> SuMo_D: still going on
13:18 < SuMo_D> dc0de I wonder if that explains why I'm a positive person... cause I had a weird gene abmonmily with my cancer... maybe it ate the negative one
13:18 < SuMo_D> Evilpig you made it so that's something :D
13:18 < Shadow404> eryc: will this help
13:18 < SuMo_D> fn + arrow on a mac  = page up or page down
13:18 < Shadow404> Evilpig:
13:19 <@oddball> Evilpig: Oh... right.  Sorry, forgot.
13:19 < Shadow404> http://osxdaily.com/2007/10/29/fix-page-up-key-in-terminalapp-to-work-with-irssi/
13:19 < SuMo_D> fn key is the lower left under the shift
13:19 < SuMo_D> you're on a macbook/mbpro right?
13:19 <@oddball> Which is the case with most laptops that don't have full keyboards.
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13:29 <@Evilpig> yeah its a macbook air
13:29 <@Evilpig> it's pretty spiffy for a company laptop
13:31 <@Evilpig> so they use irc for much of their internal communications but the server is private and only available from behind the vpn
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13:34 < SuMo_D> smancy
13:34 < SuMo_D> I have a friend at facebook that said they do that too
13:35 < Shadow404> we use to do that in a large NOC i worked in
13:36 < frsilent> that's actually how some communications worked overseas
13:36 < frsilent> at our COC we could see what all other units in the AO were up to
13:36 < frsilent> running it off sipr net or w/e
13:39 <@aestetix> heh
13:39 <@aestetix> I was listening to music and started doing liquid
13:40 <@aestetix> nobody understood what it was
13:42 < SuMo_D> So I got a question for you guys.... that's rolling in my head all morning... so I'm doing artist day on Wednesday with 5th graders in our small little mountain town...
13:42 < SuMo_D> I'm going to bring in a 3D printer, an eggbot, and some interactive LED things with arduinos stuff like that
13:43 < SuMo_D> and I'm not sure if I should just let them all be like OoOOOooooOOoo and just mess with it all, or if during the presentation put in there ummm so kids.. you learn this stuff you might actually be employable one day... and you get to make cool stuff
13:43 < SuMo_D> this sounds like a dumb question now that I see it typed out
13:44 <@aestetix> are 5th graders driven by what will get them jobs?
13:44 <@aestetix> It's been a while since i was in 5th grade, but the "cool stuff" factor seems more relevant
13:44 < frsilent> I don't think some structure would be bad though
13:44 < frsilent> maybe not "you'll be employable"
13:45 < SuMo_D> no, but they are taking notes to show their folks.... so something more than hey! I want to be an artist that works with robots!
13:45 < frsilent> but a pure-tinker shop would get out of hand fast I would think
13:45 < SuMo_D> might be a good take away
13:45 < frsilent> meh, would be better if you could convey that to the kids; they shouldn't have to justify their eagerness to the parents
13:45 < frsilent> **convey that to the parents
13:46 < Shadow404> you could get a "cool job"
13:46 < frsilent> not the kids
13:46 < Shadow404> like being an astronaut
13:46 < Shadow404> or something along those lines
13:46 < SuMo_D> yeah
13:46 < Shadow404> they dont understand employable yet
13:46 < Shadow404> not at that age
13:46 < SuMo_D> they do around here :/
13:46 < Shadow404> maybe highschool, it starts becoming a reality
13:47 < frsilent> my thoughts in short: sense of wonder for the kids, justification of interest to the parents
13:47 < SuMo_D> I hope they'll get inspired and join our coding/physical computing program - we had a great workshop yesterday
13:48 <@aestetix> so
13:48 <@aestetix> from what I hear, the worst part about being a teacher these days is the parents
13:48 < SuMo_D> I had two 8 year olds doing arduino codes and making messages in lights - wish you guys could have seen them, and yeah... the parent was there and she got into it too just cause they were like WHOA
13:48 < frsilent> that's fucking awesome
13:48 < frsilent> seriously
13:49 < SuMo_D> yeah... made me feel like something was going right :)
13:50 < Shadow404> awesome, wait till the parents make demands
13:50 < frsilent> j/w how are you guys funded?
13:50 < Shadow404> and change the course to fit their image
13:50 < frsilent> or is there a site for your program?
13:51 < SuMo_D> I feel like this is going to be a good op to get more kids involved in our program... so something that makes it relevant to the parents as to why they should get involved I think might help... I donno my partner Malinda is working on developing an internship program for the older kids
13:51 < SuMo_D> www.raspi-greenville.org
13:51 < SuMo_D> our site suuuuucks
13:51 < SuMo_D> but we don't have time/money to fix it right now - we're run by donations
13:52 < SuMo_D> I did get us a grant from the arts council to get more of the LED panels that we are going to be able to use the microcontrollers in other projects as we progress
13:53 < SuMo_D> we have another local grant that we wrote in partnership with another local charity that helps abused/neglected kids and if we get that - it'll fund the program and send us kids (cause we all know how much fun it is to advertise)
13:54 < SuMo_D> and yeah... we've had to deal with some scheduling stuff to accomodate parents but most are pretty supportive cause they see the value and how hard we're working to get it off the ground
13:56 < frsilent> nice
13:56 < Shadow404> yep, awesome work
13:57 < SuMo_D> we've actually moved to a webinar format with periodic workshops so they don't have an issue with spending money on gas and getting around and all and we record them so if kids miss they don't miss out
13:57 < SuMo_D> the goal is an invention convention in April... Malinda wants to grow it into a regional thing
13:58 < SuMo_D> which lately... I've been thinking about... isn't that different from a Maker Faire.... but yeah... if you know anybody in Upstate SC or lower NC send them our way
14:00 < SuMo_D> but yeah... so maybe a line about jobs but mostly LOOK COOL ROBOTS AND SHIT! YEAH KIDS?  - I donno I guess part of it is that being in a small town, not being from here and trying to show them that new media art is art... and that it has value... the easy copout on that is to be like errr... yeah jobs cause that's more quantifiable
14:01 < frsilent> maybe not so much a job perspective but rather an idealistic "change the world" view
14:02 < SuMo_D> yes
14:02 < SuMo_D> that's a good one
14:02 < frsilent> (insert clip of neil degrasse tyson)
14:02 < SuMo_D> hehehe
14:03 < SuMo_D> I'm pretty good at presenting these things, I've lugged my little printr bot jr all over town more times than I can count, I think its that I have to make a slide deck
14:03 < SuMo_D> so I'm like shooooot... yeah... hmmm - that makes it all ral
14:03 < SuMo_D> real
14:04 < SuMo_D> and before I'd just was putting stuff in the context of the maker space... but our maker space just failed... hard
14:04 < SuMo_D> which still kinda stings
14:05 < SuMo_D> I'm probably overtinking it...
14:06 < SuMo_D> I think the girl who recommended me for this is doing pictures of owls and talking about how we live surrounded by forests
14:06 < frsilent> lol
14:07 < SuMo_D> Hey on a different note did you guys see this???? https://pinocc.io/
14:07 < GateKeeper> Title: Pinoccio - Wireless microcontroller for web-enabled DIY projects. (at pinocc.io)
14:07 < SuMo_D> wireless + battery built in Arduino - 2nd run estimated Dec/Jan
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14:13 <@aestetix> hmmm
14:13 <@aestetix> coworker is fat, annoying, and ugly
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14:15 < SuMo_D> so.. tell him needs to be a slim, smart, beautiful princess and let the power of suggestion take hold
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14:30 < Shadow404> so tired of work today, i need a tier 1 newb to come up here and fix their own mess
14:30 < SuMo_D> awww
14:31 < SuMo_D> we were all newbs once...
14:31 < SuMo_D> (some still are more than others)
14:31  * SuMo_D hides
14:32 < Shadow404> yeah, i realize now why the higher tiers always distanced themselves as far as they could from the tier1's
14:32  * Shadow404 has a huge headache
14:33 < SuMo_D> yeah... but if nobody teaches them... they'll just keep doing the same shit
14:34 < Shadow404> oh, we teach them plenty, its their (and i did it to when i was a newb) blatant disregard for the process and procedure which gets them into shit they shouldnt
14:35 < Shadow404> like dont try to parse the Log file yourself, and end up screwing the whole thing up, therefore making RFO's way more difficult to figure out
14:36 < Shadow404> i should ask the engineer in charge of that equipment if we can password protect the log file to read only
14:39 < SuMo_D> yeah...  I used to teach at Parsons school of Design in NYC... and it was so funny I taught mostly people switching careers that'd been through some kind of school or career already... but I had a few feshman classes too straight out of HS
14:39 < SuMo_D> they were the worst!
14:39 < SuMo_D> Like... no... trust me... you need to save your Phostoshop file this way... resolution does matter... your client and the printer will kill you...
14:40 < SuMo_D> and then get the naw! I do what I want!
14:40 < SuMo_D> guess you live and learn...
14:43 < SuMo_D> I did take over one class once, and the lady didn't know how to package InDesgin files, and gave me blank stares when I talked about it and she was doing catalog work, and couldn't understand why her printer hated her so much... I was like wow... yeah...  - I donno I did horrible things too as a design newb... still seems like some things are more horrible than others...
14:48 < Shadow404> hmm, i just had a funny idea, how would i look at "wheres waldo" given my height, with a pair of bukly black bottle cap glasses
14:48 < Shadow404> for a halloween party
14:50 < SuMo_D> make it evil Waldo
14:51 < Shadow404> how would that work?
14:52 < Shadow404> black stripes rather than red?
14:53 < frsilent> maybe orange & black?
14:53 < frsilent> you'd need his cane to make it though
14:54 <@Evilpig> baudburn is my hero
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14:55 < Shadow404> Evilpig: what'd he do this time?
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14:57 <@Evilpig> he hooked me up on the osx goodies
14:59 <@oddball> Oh shit... is he teaching you how to be an apple hipster?
15:00 < _specialk_> yep!
15:00 < _specialk_> s/baudburn/specialk/g
15:01 <@Evilpig> for the record it's 3 in the afternoon and my new boss just asked if I would like a rum and coke.  then followed that up with he is not against drinking on the job. :D
15:02 < SuMo_D> welcome to working with designers :P
15:02 < frsilent> hahah
15:02 < frsilent> I had a guy offer me a beer at an interview once
15:02 < SuMo_D> I actually just ran across this http://en.ilovecoffee.jp/posts/view/79
15:02 < GateKeeper> Title: Your brain on BEER vs. COFFEE - I Love Coffee (at en.ilovecoffee.jp)
15:03 < SuMo_D> so yeah... there you go... the internets tells me that beer = more creative
15:03 < frsilent> unfortunately I declined & then had some indian guy interview me who a) spoke poor english & b) told me my simple recursive algorithm was wrong until I walked him through it
15:03 < SuMo_D> lol
15:04 < SuMo_D> it was a test... to see if you could do that.. WITH BEER
15:05 < Shadow404> hehe, i miss that sorta job, at cbeyond, we use to have afternoon keg parties
15:05 < SuMo_D> my first production job... all the designers had full liters of coke... with rum... around the work stations - as long as we hit deadlines nobody cared
15:06 < NotLarry> Evilpig: in line at comvast now
15:06 <@Evilpig> thx
15:07 < Shadow404> returning hardware?
15:08 < NotLarry> no worries
15:08 < NotLarry> yup
15:08 <@Evilpig> returning my hardware
15:10 <@Dolemite> So is NotLarry your "task rabbit"?
15:11 < Shadow404> does he come with a 15% discount
15:12 < Shadow404> NotLarry: they can be difficult at the service centers sometimes, i always try to get the attendnat that really doesnt want to be there, as they are the least likely to give you any sorta policy pushback
15:14 < NotLarry> you missunderstand why I am jere.
15:14 < NotLarry> s/jere/here
15:14 <@Dolemite> NotLarry: Most everything Shadow404 says falls into that category
15:15 < Shadow404> returning Evilpig's equipment
15:15 < NotLarry> It is my gpal to enhance their customer service experience.
15:16 < NotLarry> damn this type is small
15:18 < Shadow404> heh
15:19 < Shadow404> ssh on the phone is not fun
15:19 < NotLarry> damn.  mistakenly scanning their netqork here
15:22 <@Evilpig> bah.  can't get irssi to connect.  debug... need some debug
15:23 < Shadow404> via your shell?
15:23 <@Evilpig> via a shell, yes
15:24 < Shadow404> ah, heh, that shell
15:24 < Shadow404> just make sure you keep thje work and the freenode windows seperate, i had that problem at the NOC that used IRC
15:24 < Shadow404> made for some interesting copy and paste acidents
15:25 < Shadow404> actually, we used undernet back in the day for se2600 right?
15:25 <@Mirage> yes
15:25 <@Evilpig> in the long long ago
15:25 < Shadow404> before we gave them a big FU for stability
15:26 <@Corydon76-home> EFnet was the most recent network before Freenode, I think
15:26 <@Mirage> netsplits were numerous
15:26  * Evilpig makes airplane noises and "flies" around Mirage 
15:26 < nachoguy> I miss Efnet in the old days, when it was a battle ground
15:28 < Shadow404> heh, i remember the op wars before we had the built in chanserv
15:28 < Shadow404> like when (i forgot who), but he managed to kick/ban everyone out of the room
15:28 <@Corydon76-home> ware or nox?
15:29 < Shadow404> i think it was nox, ware almost did something like that
15:29 <@Evilpig> I will find nox.
15:29 < Shadow404> at least he attempted
15:29 <@Corydon76-home> Yes, ChanServ has gotten rid of a lot of the inconvenience of using IRC
15:29 < Shadow404> makes it super simple
15:29 <@Corydon76-home> I still troll nox on Facebook
15:29 < Shadow404> heh, whats he doing nowadays?
15:30 <@Corydon76-home> Professional comedy.  I believe his usual title is "Waiter!"
15:32 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: I need to start cracking the whip on code monkey.  That'd be you.
15:32 <@Evilpig> i'm busy bitch. :P
15:32 <@Dolemite> Busy playing pokemon and eating sushi
15:33 <@Evilpig> didn't help any that jose submitted that shit two weeks ago that broke all my shit cause he didn't realize he had extended his local db
15:33 <@Evilpig> someone has the catch the pokemon.  all the pokemon
15:33 <@Evilpig> ALL OF THEM
15:33 <@Dolemite> Yeah, that's what I wanted a second opinion on - I don't think his CSS is right
15:33 <@Evilpig> I havent' even seen that latest bit
15:34 <@Evilpig> I was reading the other night on how to draw on canvas and be more efficient with it
15:34 <@Evilpig> if you've noticed I reworked parts of that code to make it more efficient
15:34 <@Dolemite> The cabinet tooltips on the map screen are nice to have, but they aren't aligned correctly on the map - I've copied all the files over more than once, so I don't think it's a stale copy that's getting me
15:34 <@Evilpig> that's jose's doing
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15:34 <@Evilpig> that was my initial problem with it
15:34 <@Dolemite> I've also got to change his display code to localize, since he's using commas where we use decimals
15:35 <@Dolemite> crazy europeans
15:35 < Shadow404> 2,66 euros?
15:35 < Shadow404> thats the correct way
15:36 < Shadow404> we are the ones doing it wrong
15:36 < Shadow404> and beleive it or not, studies have proven driving on the left side of the road is more efficient in most scenarios
15:37 <@Mirage> Oh, speaking of Sushi...found a nice lunch buffet up the street from the office.  Lunch Buffet is $15.99, but it covers the Sushi Bar, Sashimi Bar, Mongolian BBQ/Grill, Salad Bad, Seafood Bar, Desert Bar, and Ice Cream.
15:37 <@Evilpig> 15:37 -!- Irssi: warning SSL handshake failed: Broken pipe
15:37 <@Evilpig> argggggg!
15:38 <@Dolemite> That's too much.  For $12 at Calhoun's on the river I can get smoked meats galore, along with sides, dessert, and a drink.  And I don't have to eat uncooked fish.
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15:42 <@oddball> Dolemite: You forget where he now lives.  Take what you're used to paying, and double it.
15:43 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: I think he's actually willing to triple what he was paying Evilpig.
15:43 <@oddball> Well, that's a different story...
15:44 < SuMo_D> There are cheap good eats in NYC... you just need to find them....
15:45 < SuMo_D> my friend's place... Bistro 33 in Astoria... some of the best Sushi I've ever had and he has a 2 for 10$ Tuesday menu - but yeah... you need to get to it, which is a hike but its near the park, which is pretty
15:47 < SuMo_D> Dojo's down by NYU/Cooper U is also ridiculously cheap... and the Continetal 10 shots for 10$ in pretty much across the street
15:47 < SuMo_D> (if you live in The worst room... chances are you know where the cheap eats are too... just sayin')
15:48 < dc0de> f NYC... just sayin' too many ppl, and not enough clean air.
15:49 < SuMo_D> that is very ture...
15:50 < SuMo_D> I'm racking my brain to think if I can remember any Buffets in NYC... and yeah.... nope... except maybe an Indian one but that was in Jersey City - that was cheap and good
15:50 < SuMo_D> Oh! the Soulfood buffets up on 125th and Malcom X, I used to go there after work, those were good
15:51 < SuMo_D> Oh and of course the Midtown delis... but they're ridiculously expensive
15:52 < SuMo_D> think like 14$ for a salad
15:52 <@Dolemite> My biggest complaint with NYC restaurants is that drink refills seem to be a foreign concept
15:53 <@Evilpig> okay I have the correct server name now.  just to figure out how to get irssi to send a password when connecting and not authenticating to something after connect
15:56 < _specialk_> brb
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15:58 <@Evilpig> winner!  finally
16:04 < Shadow404> sounds like you need an award Evilpig
16:04 < Shadow404> oh wait, thats right
16:07 <@Evilpig> http://i.imgur.com/5eDTUcM.png
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16:08 < SuMo_D> :)
16:10 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: speaking of opendcim did you see pull request 285 from hawson?
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16:11 < Shadow404> Evilpig: that a real work award?
16:11 <@Evilpig> yes
16:12 <@Evilpig> they have two awards.  that one and the "humblr" award for someone that went above and beyond on something putting tumblr first
16:12 < Shadow404> nice
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16:14 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Yep, need to merge that one in, too.  Right now I'm getting ready for a second major planned outage/maintenance in 2 weeks, so haven't had time to even pull and test.
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16:15 < SuMo_D> Fuck yeah awards!
16:15 < SuMo_D> yeah! yeah yeah!
16:15 <@Dolemite> Murrica!
16:15 <@Dolemite> Yay.  Bull Run TVA Steam Plant just dropped a 161kV feeder.
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16:19 <@Evilpig> you agree with his change?  I am still saying it is unecessary and is just adding load time
16:20 <@Evilpig> it's the one changing out a foreach for a while
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16:22 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: We may be thinking about different things.  I was referring to his addition of the 0.1 multiplier for the power strips.
16:22 <@Evilpig> yeah that one I merged
16:22 <@Evilpig> I think
16:22 <@Dolemite> What was the other one, then?
16:23 <@Evilpig> about some spam in the log that shouldn't ever happen unless a query is completely broken
16:23 <@Dolemite> Anyway, we need to tidy up enough to release 3.1 since we've fixed several minor bugs since 3.0
16:23 <@Dolemite> Oh, no, I didn't see the pull request on the logs
16:23 <@Evilpig> I haven't done any of the UI stuff
16:24 <@Evilpig> I will see what I can do tonight
16:24 <@Dolemite> Alright, time to head home.  Wife is sick with walking pneumonia, so if I ever want to get lucky, again, I have to help her get some rest.
16:24 <@Dolemite> later
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16:28 < dc0de> sweet, got my .irssi/config setup.
16:28 < dc0de> I think... :)
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16:39 < Shadow404> i guess not then
16:39 < dc0de> k, it's working now.
16:42 <@Evilpig> dc0de: just finally getting back to a stable shell someplace?
16:43 < dc0de> Evilpig: no,I use my linux box in the apartment... and wanted to add se2600 back to my irssi config, with three split vertical screens..
16:44 < dc0de> so I'm connected to freenode, and efnet, and in a total of three channels.
16:44 < dc0de> using screen...
16:46 <@Evilpig> so just about the same as the rest of us now?  lol
16:47 < dc0de> Evilpig: yea...
16:50 < dc0de> http://pastebin.com/yq6TAfw8
16:50 < GateKeeper> Title: irssi config - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
16:50 < dc0de> for what it's worth.
16:56 <@Evilpig> well... it's 5.  I can officially get out of here.  not like I am doing anything but warming a seat anyhow
16:56 <@Evilpig> time to go navigate the subway again and see if I can make it back home
17:12 < SuMo_D> You can do it!
17:12 < SuMo_D> its not that hard - you just got to get to the Path station
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17:29 <@aestetix> I hope this united glitch works
17:29 <@aestetix> I've already gotten four round trip first class tickets from it
17:31 <@aestetix> This is what you do: go onunited.com, enter your frequent flyer information, choose a miles flight, select both flights you want to book, then open a new window but leave the old one open as well. Select the same flights, booking with dollars this time. Refresh the first window, then refresh the second window. The second window should show that you have enough points to book the flight. Then you enter in your credit card info and just pay the tax/fee. Yo
17:31 <@aestetix> if you're interested
17:34 < SuMo_D> OOooo
17:34 < SuMo_D> that's awesome... I wish I had a united frequent flyer account
17:34 < SuMo_D> I don't think they fly here either... which sucks
17:36 <@aestetix> no no no
17:36 <@aestetix> you creat a new account
17:36 <@aestetix> that's where the bug is
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18:18 < SuMo_D> OOoooo
18:23 <@oddball> aestetix: I see one small issue with your cunning plan:  It requires flying United.
18:24 <@oddball> That's always equaled pain in my experience.
18:25 <@aestetix> haha
18:25 <@oddball> That's the airline I flew that had me in a seat where there was so little space between me and the seat in front of me that I literally couldn't put my feet on the floor because my knees were hitting the seat in front of me.
18:25 < SuMo_D> ouch
18:26 <@oddball> Yeah.  Fuck them.
18:27 <@oddball> Yes, I'm tall, but I'm not basketball player height or anything.
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18:27 < SuMo_D> I think the nearest place to me that United flies out of is Charlotte...and yeah my body's been all messed up again recently... I don't think I'll be able to travel again for a bit :/
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18:30 <@oddball> When I do have to fly, I try to fly Southwest.  Nothing fancy, but they tend to get me where I'm going when they claim with the least amount of stress.
18:31 < SuMo_D> southwest is awesome
18:31 < SuMo_D> I flew them home from PN
18:31 <@oddball> There's a reason why they were making a profit when damn near everyone else was losing money a couple years back.
18:32 <@oddball> I know a number of people that bitch about their no assigned seating thing, but it just really isn't that big of a deal for me.
18:33 < SuMo_D> yeah
18:33 < SuMo_D> now they have boarding zones
18:33 < SuMo_D> I was like whaaaa
18:33 < SuMo_D> I remember back when they started...
18:33 < SuMo_D> that was a bit of madness but wonderful
18:34 <@oddball> And the online check in 24 hours ahead of time.
18:34 < SuMo_D> yeah
18:34 <@oddball> The recognize that the modern airliner is little more than a bus with wings, and treat it as such.
18:35 < SuMo_D> yep greyhound of the sky
18:35 <@oddball> Oh, and they still let you check on a couple bags without charging extra.
18:36 <@oddball> I get... twitchy if I don't have a pocket knife on me, so I tend to check a bag.
18:36 < SuMo_D> lol
18:37 < SuMo_D> seems to be a trend with southern males
18:37 <@oddball> They're just so damn handy to have.
18:37 < SuMo_D> true
18:38 <@oddball> I'm of the firm opinion that every adult that can take care of themselves should at least have a basic swiss army knife on them.
18:39 < frsilent> & a 45 in the glove box
18:39 < SuMo_D> again... both things that seem to be pretty standard in the south
18:39 <@oddball> small blade, scissors, nail file, maybe a screw driver.  Amazing what you can do with just that.
18:40 <@oddball> they .45 in the glove box is useful, but optional.
18:41 < SuMo_D> yep
18:42 <@oddball> And, for the record, the knife thing is something I got from my dad... whose about as northern as it gets. (I'll concede that me being down here since I was 5 makes me southern in non-southerners' eyes)
18:43 < SuMo_D> yeah the southern identity thing is weird...
18:43 < SuMo_D> I'm not from here... and this area where I am is particularly prickly about "transplants" right now
18:44 < SuMo_D> but as soon as I say oh yeah, my grandmother was from here... its a different story...
18:44 <@oddball> South Carolina?
18:44 < SuMo_D> yeah
18:44 < SuMo_D> upstate, Greenville area
18:44 <@oddball> Yeah... I've suprised some folks since my dad's side of the family is from Michigan, but my mom's is from around here.
18:45 <@oddball> Oh, hell... my wife is from that area.
18:45 < SuMo_D> lol
18:46 < SuMo_D> its a great area
18:46 <@oddball> Yeah... it's really pretty.
18:46 < SuMo_D> yeah
18:47 < SuMo_D> did she like it here?
18:47 < SuMo_D> Its changed a lot in the last few years
18:47 <@oddball> Her mom was still there until a year or so ago when her step-father got a promotion that required a move to Miami.  The move was almost a deal breaker.
18:48 < SuMo_D> ah
18:48 <@oddball> The actual areas?  yes.  Some of the population?  They made her feel all stabby.
18:49 < SuMo_D> yeah there's a lot of stabby
18:49 < SuMo_D> but its getting less
18:49 <@oddball> small town... something about getting fired essentially because a few of her coworkers decided she was a witch that was going to place curses on them.
18:49 < SuMo_D> it seems like the tide has turned... less jerks in charge
18:49 < SuMo_D> ah...
18:49 < SuMo_D> that sucks
18:50 < SuMo_D> well... I know a bunch of friends that went to upstate pagan day on Saturday
18:50 < SuMo_D> which was pretty well attended... so its different
18:50 < SuMo_D> but still... that sucks
18:55 < SuMo_D> there is a lot of things that still hit me upside the head and go whaaaaaa this place is INSANE... they hit me less these days... but still there's a lot of o_O moments...
18:56 < SuMo_D> but if you have a different way... or a better idea... people seem ready to pitch in... which I appreciate a lot
19:28 <@oddball> cool
19:55 < SuMo_D> argh that moment where you go crap crap crap why isn't this working! then realize the battery is in backwards... and the timing wire is out
20:15 <@oddball> heh
20:28 <@Evilpig> and someone like aestetix came in and crammed a vagina in it
20:28 <@Evilpig> or a penis, since he swings that way
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20:44 <@aestetix> sigh
20:44 <@aestetix> United is not honoring those tickets
20:44 <@Evilpig> the ones you didn't get to use from PN?
20:44 <@aestetix> no
20:44 <@Dagmar> The nearly free ones?
20:44 <@aestetix> the first class round trip ticket to germany I bought because of the glitch
20:44 <@Dagmar> Wow.  PR nightmare for them after they said they were going to honor those things
20:45 <@Dagmar> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/united-airlines-honor-free-tickets-article-1.1455936
20:45 < GateKeeper> Title: United Airlines to honor free tickets from computer glitch - NY Daily News (at www.nydailynews.com)
20:46 <@Evilpig> well damn.  wish I had known
20:47 <@aestetix> one of my coworkers got a trip to hawaii, peru, and brazil
20:47 <@aestetix> all first class
20:48 <@Evilpig> lol damn.  are they honoring his?
20:48 <@Dagmar> If he gets lucky
20:49 <@Dagmar> You live in North Dakota?
20:49 <@Dagmar> wrong chan
20:49 <@Evilpig> No Dagmar.  That's too far to drive for a booty call.  Just say no.
20:49 <@Dagmar> heheh
20:49 <@Dagmar> WHy would I drive that far when there's so many banner ads telling me about all the hot milfs wanting to have sex RIGHT NOW
20:50 <@Dagmar> In my neighborhood even!
20:50 <@Evilpig> cause you're silly and didn't install adblocker like a good netizen
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20:58 <@Dagmar> I don't use adblocker.  I don't mind people getting money for me ignoring ads.
20:59 <@Dagmar> Ads that piss me off, on the other hand, get a DNS blacklist.
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21:02 <@oddball> Dagmar: See... that's the way I've been for a long time, but I've run into more and more sites that have so many ads that it takes a long ass time to even load the damn page.
21:02 <@Dagmar> Slowing my shit down with complex flash ads == annoying
21:02 <@oddball> Oh... and embedded ad videos that auto play with the sound turned on.
21:02 <@Dagmar> Daring to use a PDF == fucking ban the whole netblock
21:02 <@Dagmar> One instance of an audio ad is plenty for me
21:04 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck!  Run!
21:04 <@Dagmar> @#$@#$
21:04 <@Evilpig> tumblr shwag https://www.dropbox.com/s/5phd3u4jg5qy4r0/2013-10-14%2021.03.23.jpg
21:04 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-10-14 21.03.23.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
21:05 <@Evilpig> and this here is a laptop cover that perfectly fits a macbook air  https://www.dropbox.com/s/l7v4t22v4exm1pu/2013-10-14%2021.03.31.jpg
21:05 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-10-14 21.03.31.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
21:05 <@Evilpig> and there is a macbook air in it
21:05 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... there's a news site that buddies keep citing that does that shit.  I'm not the only one that tells them that we're not following the link.
21:06 <@aestetix> ok
21:06 <@aestetix> anyone here good with Windows on ec2?
21:07 <@oddball> Hell, I think that's the site that often has two video ads that talk over each other.
21:07 <@aestetix> I'm trying to reset a password :/
21:07 < SuMo_D> Evilpig was the commute alright? The Path wasn't that much of a pain right?
21:08 <@Evilpig> it wasn't horrible.  I survived.
21:08 <@Evilpig> got lost on the way home.  stupid penn station
21:08 <@Evilpig> MORE SIGNAGE ASSHOLES!!!
21:08 < SuMo_D> awwww
21:08 <@oddball> As in you're logged into that account and trying to change the password, or the account has been locked out?
21:09 < SuMo_D> yeah signage is good - did you change at Jrn Sq ? - they used to have pretty good signage
21:09 <@oddball> Evilpig: Oh, I'm guessing the assholes that dug up your plant are furry and have four feet?
21:09 < SuMo_D> I'm sure it'll get easier
21:09 <@Evilpig> oddball: correct
21:09 <@Evilpig> I don't know which one either so neither got a beating
21:09 <@Evilpig> mom called and said to wrap the fucker in foil tomorrow
21:10 <@Evilpig> something about they don't like the feeling of it and tey don't like the sound
21:10 <@Evilpig> I already covered it in cayenne pepper yesterday to stop the nomming
21:10 <@Evilpig> fuckers.
21:17 <@Dagmar> Shit.
21:18 <@Dagmar> I am *not* live-resizing this volume while the CPU on the mysql server is showing ~50% IOwait
21:18 <@Dagmar> Nope nope nope nope.
21:18 <@Dagmar> I've got a window that goes until 9pm.  I'll wait until 10pm if I have to.
21:19 <@Dagmar> ...because *fuck* having the machine go into meltdown while I'm resizing a 20Gb partition full of database files
21:19 <@Dagmar> That's some serious rockstar-quality nope right there.
21:21 <@Dagmar> Yep.  Generating a 100M test file ran the system load up to 20.
21:23 <@Evilpig> wow.  that's a big nope
21:23 <@Dagmar> Yeah.
21:23 <@Dagmar> Fuck these people for not listening to me.
21:23 <@Evilpig> okay i'm gonna crawl up into bed now and catch some pokemon.  I don't have to be into work until 10 tomorrow so... heh
21:24 <@Dagmar> If I wanted to be a complete dick I'd go ahead and do it, and when the box eats itself I could just say "Well it can't possibly be my fault because of all the people who signed off on the change."
21:28 < SuMo_D> Holy Crap 3rd Ward shut down :(
21:28 < SuMo_D> that is sad...
21:38 <@oddball> Evilpig: I think I am going to be able to buy GTAV in the next couple days.  Any word on how the PC port is?
21:38 <@Dagmar> other than "nonexistant"?
21:39 <@oddball> Oh... well... I guess that answers that question...
21:39 <@Dagmar> The word is currently _maybe_ in Q1 2014
21:39 <@oddball> I thought I saw ads for it on Steam
21:39 <@Dagmar> That's fun.  I nearly just passed out.
21:40 <@oddball> Ah... I probably saw that GAT V pack for Saints Row 4.
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21:44 <@Dagmar> I was on the toilet thinking I was hearing bells and that I was just too damn high and then realized "HEY WAIT, I DON'T HAVE ANY WEED"
21:45 <@Dagmar> My phone was *not helping* either, because I just called Pat to explain why i was probably going to abort this change and my phone didn't even record it
21:45 <@Dagmar> *whew*
21:45 <@Dagmar> Apparently I at least wasn't saying anything super-weird
21:45 <@Dagmar> No more hanging upside down off the edge of the bed for novetly factor until I get my stress levels down a bit
21:46 <@Dagmar> Jesus
21:51 <@Dickie> You should seek help.
21:57 <@Dagmar> Shit what I really need is the services of a good lawyer.
21:57 <@Dagmar> ...or a recruiter.
21:59 <@Dagmar> I just know if this thing plays up while I'm trying to live resize the 30Gb disk volume full of mysql tables, people will try to blame me for it, as if I never warned them we were having problems all weekend..
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