--- Log opened Wed Oct 02 00:00:28 2013
00:52 <@SuMo_D> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbo0jFUzX6k
00:52 < GateKeeper> Title: Vargs view on cornflakes and heavy metal guys. - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:52 <@Evilpig> corn flakes aren't metal
00:53 <@SuMo_D> To Varg they are
00:54 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFL6i0mkRgU
00:54 < GateKeeper> Title: Psychostick - Metal? with lyrics - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:54 <@SuMo_D> \m/
00:55 <@SuMo_D> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKml8LwF_0M
00:55 < GateKeeper> Title: Accept - Fast as a Shark (official Video) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:55 <@Evilpig> ***COMMENTS ARE DEACTIVATED BECAUSE OF RETARTED PEOPLE***  <-- O.O
00:56 <@Evilpig> Maybe he meant comments are disable because of retarded posters
00:56 <@SuMo_D> Yeah... some people can't handle the amazingness of FAST AS A SHARK
00:56 <@Dagmar> The troll-happy crowd view the new comment rating system as a challenge
00:56 <@Bahhumbug> Heh, Accept.
00:56 <@Bahhumbug> And the ugliest mother fucker ever to front a band.
00:57 <@Dagmar> I have good rating.  If I post shit it shows right up.
00:57 <@Bahhumbug> It's hard to believe I started listening to that band in... '83?
00:58 <@Evilpig> I was listening to this on my plane ride back from NY.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXVXyZi-fN0   This video is just funny
00:58 < GateKeeper> Title: Psychostick: The Dumb Song - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:58 <@SuMo_D> I just watched a half hour interview with Gaahl I should be sleeps... but no
00:58 <@SuMo_D> can be dumb and headbang... that's alright
01:01 <@Evilpig> you can't help but laugh at that
01:01 <@SuMo_D> you died while in the pit... cause you're dumb
01:01 <@SuMo_D> :)
01:02 <@SuMo_D> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTq1AcjKpCc
01:02 < GateKeeper> Title: HORSE the band- A Million Exploding Suns (HD) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:03 <@Evilpig> damnit.  I need to write that thing for tumblr about myself still
01:03 <@SuMo_D> The song they wrote about cutsman in megaman is better... but this video is better
01:06 <@Evilpig> this is quite bizare
01:06 <@SuMo_D> because your dumb
01:10 <@SuMo_D> This one is even better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCSKti0ilgk
01:10 < GateKeeper> Title: NeFogazz - Szólj Anyádnak - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:11 <@SuMo_D> well... maybe not better... but at least on that same level
01:21 <@Evilpig> jesus....  3.8mil    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/mighty-no-9
01:21 < GateKeeper> Title: Mighty No. 9 by comcept USA, LLC Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com)
01:22 <@aestetix> ugh
01:22 <@aestetix> I hate academics
01:27 <@Bahhumbug> They hate you, too.
01:27 <@aestetix> Bahhumbug: they do.
01:27 <@aestetix> All the structure and rules and shit.
01:27 <@aestetix> I am not a fan.
01:28 <@Evilpig> Shadow404 is a fan of shit.  especially in a box and delivered to him
01:28 <@aestetix> What's his address?
01:28 <@Evilpig> dunno
01:29 <@aestetix> "Toilet clogged? No problem! Mail your poop to Shadow404! Click here to download his special postage paid stamp for free shipping."
01:31 <@Bahhumbug> heh
01:32 <@aestetix> Actually
01:32 <@aestetix> This is 2013. There's an app for that
01:32 <@Evilpig> lol
01:33 <@Evilpig> qr code?
01:33 <@aestetix> "Take a photo of your poop, and upload it to this app. If Shadow404 likes it, you'll recieve a box in the mail with postage included."
01:33 <@Evilpig> Surely there is an app called "log drop" or something for sending picture of poo
01:34 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: we need an android app called Log Drop.  Get on it.
01:35 <@Evilpig> Take a picture of poo -> sends to Shadow404 -> complete
01:37 <@aestetix> hahha
01:37 <@aestetix> new with iOS 7.1?
01:40 <@aestetix> Evilpig: does it integrate with Facebook?
01:40 <@Evilpig> well obviously
01:40 <@Evilpig> need to probably have some twitter action or instagram too
01:40 <@aestetix> hahaha
01:40 <@aestetix> "poo"-r code
01:41 <@Evilpig> vine would be ideal.  but something tells me there would be TOS violations
01:41 <@aestetix> actually
01:41 <@aestetix> can you call it clog?
01:42 <@Evilpig> dont' see why not
01:42 <@Evilpig> have a "call a plumber" feature to call a local plumber?
01:42 <@aestetix> haha
01:42 <@aestetix> well
01:42 <@aestetix> it has a condititional first to make sure you don't like within ten miles of Shadow404
01:43 <@aestetix> hmm
01:44 <@aestetix> Log Drop sounds like Air Drop
01:44 <@aestetix> but you could also do a pun off DropBox
01:50 <@aestetix> he is gonna be really happy to see this chat when he wakes up
02:00 <@Evilpig> heh
02:00 <@Evilpig> indeed
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02:47 <@Bahhumbug> It's always good to share the happiness.
02:54 <@Catonic> PING fries are done
02:54  * Evilpig heats the gravy
02:55  * Catonic holds up a turkey baster
02:55  * Catonic smiles
02:55 <@Catonic> It's pre-warmed!
02:59 <@aestetix> pong
03:09 <@aestetix> ugh
03:10 <@aestetix> I cannot hear the german accent without thinking about scat porn
03:13 <@aestetix> I wonder if Shadow404 is german
03:21 <@Evilpig> fisting scat and leather
03:56 < RangerZ> Evilpig: I could write that app in a few minutes, LOL
03:56 < RangerZ> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-251&nm_mc=EMC-GD100213&cm_mmc=EMC-GD100213-_-index-_-Item-_-20-147-251& and holy hell... 1TB SSD
03:57 < RangerZ> on 'sale' now for 579$
04:07 <@aestetix> that seems like a large ssd drive
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06:40 <@Evilpig> my boss is actually here.  *gasp*
06:51 <@aestetix> masturbating?
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07:30 <@opticron> RangerZ1, wow, the iops and read/write speed are pretty good on that, too
07:35 <@Shadow404> whats up yo?
07:35 <@Shadow404> aestetix: any solution from rackspace? please report
07:37 <@Shadow404> aestetix: you know the backstory to the poop in a box? if not, its because i asked him for an updated sla on his shell access as hes moving and he said he would send a box of poo with the sla included
07:37 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: side note, poop is probably a usps/any carrier violation
07:37 <@Shadow404> being a bio hazard and all
07:46 <@aestetix> Shadow404: I just figured you liked poop.
07:48 <@Shadow404> all of the NO
07:48 <@Shadow404> aestetix: what did rackspace say about the cert record?
07:48 <@aestetix> what's your favorite part about it? the texture? the smell?
07:49 <@Shadow404> all of the NO
07:49 <@aestetix> Shadow404: help ticket is pending.
07:49 <@aestetix> maybe the way it dribbles through your hand
07:49 <@Shadow404> ewww
07:49 <@aestetix> or do you go right to the source
07:50 <@Shadow404> still eww
08:23 <@Shadow404> does this mean any scheduled launches are postponed for nasa?
08:23 <@Shadow404> or do they get exception?
08:41 <@Evilpig> Dementia: I just got a call from the old days inn.  they're gonna email you here in a bit
08:42 <@Evilpig> they are no longer a days inn 
08:45 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: there is no sla.  I only offer a box of poo as a service.
08:45 <@Evilpig> if RangerZ1 will get off his ass we'll all be texting/emailing you poo regularly
09:00 <@Shadow404> NOOOOOO
09:10 < nachoguy> Evilpig: http://i.imgur.com/mH4TtdL.jpg Quasi-nsfw
09:13 <@Corydon76-work> I pity the mailroom clerk who had to open that.
09:20 <@opticron> not *that* traumatizing
09:20 <@Dagmar> Fucking ridiculous
09:21 <@Dagmar> Absolutely fucking ridiculous
09:21 <@opticron> tell us of your hate
09:21 <@Dagmar> The ignorant shitbags actually generated fucking certs with a goddamn blank Subject field
09:22 <@Dagmar> No motherfucking WONDER I can't get anything that requires a validated certificate to connect
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09:29 <@Dagmar> ...and my first email of the day is a shitbag from a different department who can't figure out how to use fucking ssh.
09:29 <@Dagmar> ...because their lead shitbag sent them all directions telling them how to do it, and the directions were hellishly fucking wrong
09:30 <@Dagmar> ...up to and including doing stupid shit like renaming id_dsa to id_rsa
09:30 <@Dagmar> I need a red stapler.
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09:50 <@Shadow404> ok, so im getting a bit annoyed as well
09:50 <@Shadow404> i setup a script to automate records changes on about 3k lines of excel thats sent to us by an exception finder that runs every night
09:51 <@Shadow404> then some $useless_idiot goes in and changes the code to add functionality and breaks it
09:52 <@Shadow404> doesnt tell anyone for a week, then their boss finds out and im brought into fix it in emergency panic mode to roll back his changes and run it on the 3k*5 days it hasnt run
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09:53 <@Shadow404> at least i always keep a backup of the code in another storage medium for cases like these
09:53 < frsilent> no vcs?
09:53 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: i think we may have a blooming flower pot in our office too
09:53 <@Shadow404> vcs?
09:55 < frsilent> version control
09:55 <@Shadow404> heh, na, no ones supposed to touch the script except me, and its just a simple ahk script
09:56 <@Corydon76-work> Shadow404: speaking from experience, it's always good to have multi-versioned backups, and a VCS (like SVN or Git) is the most efficient way of doing that.
09:56 <@Shadow404> and i havent really setup it up to run as a production script, maybe if i get approval, ill setup vcs
09:57 <@Shadow404> i told $useless_idiot if he needs a new functionality, tell me and i can modify the script
09:57 < frsilent> lol
09:58 <@Corydon76-work> Shadow404: sometimes, it's not about protecting your script from someone else, but protecting your changes from your own (bad) memory
09:58 < frsilent> well setup git & github then make him pull request his modifications :P
09:58 <@Shadow404> not a bad plan, if i have time, ill look into it
09:58 <@Shadow404> today is not gonna be one of them, to many migrations to complete
09:59 <@Corydon76-work> Understood.  Your initial import will take you about 5 minutes, once you set up the repository, so keep that in mind.  You don't need to learn everything to get started, just the basics
10:03 <@Shadow404> im gonna ask IT if i can get an old desktop they dont use anymore and just set it up next to my desk as the script computer and ill setup that vcs repository
10:03 <@Shadow404> plenty of more scripts i need to build for reports on the nodes we manage
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10:06 <@Corydon76-work> If you're setting up an old machine, I'd strongly recommend something like Git, so each checkout is a complete copy.  That way, if your repo machine crashes, that's not a crippling blow.
10:11 < frsilent> ^
10:11 < frsilent> (that's an upvote)
10:11 < frsilent> only reason to use a non distributed vcs imo is if you've got a huge repository
10:11 < frsilent> with a bunch of tracked resources
10:15 <@Corydon76-work> Another reason to use a non-distributed VCS is if you have a system that backs up your VCS on a regular basis.
10:19 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-work: What would you say about a CA cert that is not self-signed?
10:20 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: for what purpose?  VPN?
10:21 <@Dagmar> Oh... LDAP over SSL.
10:21 <@Dagmar> Mind you I'm talking about the certificate authority certificate
10:21 <@Dagmar> The thing that is used to sign everything else
10:21 <@Corydon76-work> Come to think of it, I really can't think of anything that self-signing a certificate really buys you in terms of security.
10:21 <@Dagmar> I mean, I was pretty sure they were *supposed* to be self-signed
10:23 <@Corydon76-work> The only real purpose of self-signing might be to suppress a warning, but there's no security aspect of it which is advantageous
10:23 <@Dagmar> I've looked at five different vendors certs now.  They're all self-signed
10:25 <@Corydon76-work> The only reason I can see for having self-signed is that in some early version of the SSL toolkit, it checked for that, but didn't check to ensure the certificate itself was in your WoT.
10:25 <@Dagmar> The shit-for-brains LDAP guys made their own CA because "it's more enterprisey".  Their cert is not self-signed.
10:25 <@Dagmar> LDAP transactions to the AD servers refuse to validate
10:26 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-work: That wouldn't be a root cert
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10:26 <@Corydon76-work> Well, it IS a root cert, just not a common root.
10:26 <@Mirage> Dagmar: They also don't have consistent certs across all hosts using the same name (like the ds.vanderbilt.edu servers)
10:27 <@Dagmar> Mirage: yeah, I'm about to be a dick and dump a bunch of info into Erin's lap
10:27 <@Corydon76-work> Mirage: now THAT right there is fucking stupid.
10:27 <@Mirage> Corydon76-work: don't get us started
10:27 <@Dagmar> The CA cert isn't self-signed.  They left the fucking subject= field blank, which isn't technically incorrect because there's a Subject Alternate Name, but it *is* aggressively stupid
10:28 <@Dagmar> These twelve servers that are supposedly identically configured pretty much all give a different list of acceptable client certs they'll take...
10:29 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty fucking sure the only thing SSL is getting us here is encryption, not authentication
10:30 <@Mirage> Corydon76-work: I was working on a project before I left and got stuck with trying to make the java-based LDAP auth work against the ds.vanderbilt.edu servers.  Because the certs weren't consistent, the auth would sometimes work and sometimes puke out pages of java errors.
10:31 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Remember how I upgraded sclnwb11 to the latest apache trying to get around that AD-LDAP problem and it didn't do any good?
10:31 <@Mirage> Yeah
10:31 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Now that server no longer exhibits the problem, and the HC node still does
10:31 <@Dagmar> I upgraded the HC node to the latest (a few trivial patches ahead)... still no effeect
10:32 <@Dagmar> What I don't get is how the fuck something is managing to tell the difference between the two fucking servers
10:32 <@Dagmar> I'm considering trying firewalling out contact with all but one of the goddamn servers
10:33 <@Dagmar> Mirage: ...but the idea you had to use ldpasearch doesn't work... because ldapsearch can't validate their idiotic excuse for a CA cert
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10:37 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I don't recall what my idea was.
10:38 <@Dagmar> You wanted to throw the authentication queries at the ldap server and see if they ever failed
10:38 <@Dagmar> I finally clued into (sAMAccountName=username) but I'm not really convinced how much sense the reply I get from the server makes
10:39 <@Dagmar> I may crack open the fucking source and see if I cna figure out what the fuck it's asking
10:40 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Ah, yeah..
10:41 <@Dagmar> Fucking hell
10:41 <@Dagmar> 36,684 lines seems a bit much for a response to the query I sent
10:42 <@Dagmar> What the fuck
10:42 <@Mirage> lol.
10:42 <@Mirage> and what was the filter?
10:42 <@Dagmar> The same damn thing apparently in the Apache config.  (objectClass=*)
10:43 <@Mirage> Which grabs most everything..so yeah, probably correct.
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11:21 < frsilent> rip tom clancy =(
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11:43 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-work: awesome, just had a chat with IT and they will have an old desktop they have in storage imaged and setup with GIT by cob today, good suggestion
11:48 < notlarry> Evilpig: you awake?
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12:19 <@Shadow404> woot, 15,345 lines of results, parsed, graphed and reported, fully automated in 2.3 hrs, hehe
12:24 <@Mirage> Maybe if you make Dagmar really angry sometime he'll give you the VU monthly DNS logs to parse, sort, sift, graph and report metrics on.
12:25 <@Shadow404> im sure thats goes against some sort of security policy
12:25 <@Shadow404> but yeah, dns queries were part of my report oddly enough
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17:35 <@Evilpig> I gotta find my allen wrenches to take the desk apart tonight
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19:19 < notlarry> Ok, so, they guy busted for Silk Road called himself the Dread Pirate Roberts.  So, we can assume another will rise and take his place?
19:19 < notlarry> too many so in that poor excuse for a sentance.
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19:53 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I'm a little disappointed.
19:56 <@eryc> https://medium.com/p/d48995e8eb5a
19:56 < GateKeeper> Title: How Dread Pirate Roberts (Silk Road) got caught. — Medium (at medium.com)
20:10 <@eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex1oTPlyQj0
20:10 < GateKeeper> Title: "Good Time" - Paris Hilton Feat. Lil Wayne Extended Teaser - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:13 <@oddball> So... apparently a large partion of the commercial strip down Sam Ridley Pkwy is out of power.  Was kind of wierd.
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20:34 <@Evilpig> how'd I do with this craigslist ad?  http://nashville.craigslist.org/ele/4106052718.html
20:34 < GateKeeper> Title: Toshiba 27" CRT (at nashville.craigslist.org)
20:41 < RangerZ> troll level 38
20:41 <@Evilpig> well damn.  I have another one to list to
20:42 <@Evilpig> too*
20:43  * eryc flags as spam
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21:01  * SuMo_D dances
21:03 <@Evilpig> http://nashville.craigslist.org/ele/4106092716.html
21:03 < GateKeeper> Title: 27" Sony Wega Flat CRT (at nashville.craigslist.org)
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21:49 <@Corydon76-work> Pig:  have you sold the mattress yet?
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21:58 <@Dagmar> Crazy.  I saw my first  Green Treefrog earlier http://www.tn.gov/twra/tamp/frogid.shtml
21:58 < GateKeeper> Title: Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency - Frog ID Guide (at www.tn.gov)
21:59 <@Dagmar> Actually brighter green than that.  I don't see how they dont' get eaten up
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22:23 <@oddball> Dagmar: I believe many frogs use the "we'll produce faster than our predators can eat us" form of survival.
22:24 <@oddball> And it's actually quite suprising how "bright green" can disapear in the grass.
22:39 <@Dagmar> Yes but that's a treefrog that is practically a swamp spawn
22:44 <@Dagmar> He can live on a purple pimp hat for all I care since for once there weren't gnats everywhere around the door he was next to
22:44 <@Dagmar> ...or moths, or mosquitoes.
22:45 <@Dagmar> He was hanging out about a foot and a half below an outdoor light.
22:45 <@Dagmar> Smart frog.  Going to where the snacks live.
22:45 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck me
22:46 <@Dagmar> What was I thinking, expecting 32gb and about a zillion files to rsync in 20 minutes
22:56 <@SuMo_D> Ack... did you guys see this? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/lowering-your-standards
22:56 < GateKeeper> Title: Lowering Your Standards: DRM and the Future of the W3C | Electronic Frontier Foundation (at www.eff.org)
23:02 <@oddball> DRM: because fuck you, consumer!
23:03 <@SuMo_D> basicly...
23:03 <@Dagmar> I'll be patching that out of anything I compile.
23:04 <@SuMo_D> just kinda like.... seriously W3C... really? I am dissapoint...
23:20 < strages> How many of you irc from the bar? Be honest
23:22 <@SuMo_D> its happened...
23:43 < RangerZ> honestly, i would rather the DRM be built into HTML5
23:43 < RangerZ> b/c HTML5 wouldn't really have taken off otherwise
23:44 < RangerZ> look at bluray/hdDVD , betamax/vhs, etc... porn (who wants control, so they get paid) always ends up deciding the format wars
23:44 < RangerZ> well DRM extensability (you'll probably still have to install their plugin, but that would allow decryption on the fly, etc)
23:45 < RangerZ> but I definitely see the EFF's point, and on a moral ground, I agree with them
23:51 <@Corydon76-work> On a practical ground, I agree with the EFF.
23:52 <@Corydon76-work> W3C has already shown that browser companies will work around their standards, if they put something together that is untenable
23:53 < RangerZ> no... browsers adhere to W3C perfectly
23:53 < RangerZ> just ask CSS people with IE ;)
23:53 <@Corydon76-work> Their last attempt of XHTML lies in ruins.  If they adopt a standard that virtually nobody implements, they will be completely ignored in the future
23:53 < RangerZ> yep
23:54 <@SuMo_D> pretty much... but its its the principle
23:54 <@Corydon76-work> The only reason they're even getting a second bite at the apple now is because the inventor of HTML 1.0 and HTTP/1.0 is the head of the organization
23:55 <@Corydon76-work> and people like to at least give him another chance
23:56 <@Corydon76-work> Y'know, before he becomes a running joke, like the inventor of the GIF format.
23:59 < RangerZ> lol
23:59 < RangerZ> yeah, a lot of these "standards" just 'arent'
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