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00:09 <@aestetix> god damn
00:09 <@aestetix> the last breaking bad was epic
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01:10 < RangerZ> aestetix: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1378192_481932295238497_2111017396_n.jpg
01:45 <@Evilpig> when pointing your mail to a new relay location always be sure that port 25 is open...
01:48 <@Bahhumbug> Heh.  Yeah, it does sorta help.
01:49 <@Evilpig> I was watching the mail log and was just seeing locally generated stuff.  just occured to me that I needed to check the damn port.  doh!
01:58 <@aestetix> RangerZ: hahahaha
02:00 < RangerZ> figured you'd appreciate that
02:01 < RangerZ> and yes... Oracle JDK needs to take 9 hours to download...
02:06 <@aestetix> That's because there is so much quality to download
02:07 <@Bahhumbug> The 1980s called and want their broadband technology back.
02:11 < RangerZ> yes... b/c a torrent backup would KILL their network
02:12 < RangerZ> 7.2KB/s yep
02:12 < RangerZ> wtf
02:17 < RangerZ> ok fuck you oracle
02:17 < RangerZ> the JDK 8 preview is MBs/s
02:23 <@aestetix> so I gotta bite
02:23 <@aestetix> why oracle?
02:23 < RangerZ> b/d they bought sun ?
02:24 < RangerZ> b/c*
02:24 <@aestetix> oh right, you're getting the jdk
02:24 <@aestetix> I was like "why not use a good database"
02:31 < RangerZ> yeah, I'm not going to install any DB other than 1) sqlite 2) postgres 3)whatever the newest mysql fork is
02:38 <@aestetix> Does sqlite actually scale at all?
03:53 <@Dagmar> *eyeroll*
03:59 <@Bahhumbug> heh
06:58 <@Corydon76-work> No, sqlite does NOT scale
07:00 <@Corydon76-work> But then again, it was never designed for scale
07:37 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: one could argue that mysql also does not scale :p
07:53 <@Bahhumbug> facebook would tend to disagree with you on that front.
08:11 <@aestetix> Bahhumbug: because I'm sure they use mysql out of the box. Just like php
09:05 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: I'm not aware of anything you can do to tweak sqlite, other than compromising its data integrity, that will cause it to scale
09:05 <@Bahhumbug> They don't, but the base engine is quite likely very similar to what is shipped I would think.  I suspect their bigging performance boost is from some seriously beefy memcached or similar.  I believe there is a good amount of on-line stats with regards to what they push daily and hourly; it's seriously nuts.
09:05 <@Mirage> aestetix: Isn't facebook supposed to be all on MySQL backend?  I know that facebook is (or was) the largest contributor..especially for clustering
09:05 <@Bahhumbug> err s/bigging/biggest/
09:06 <@Bahhumbug> They announced they're switching to mariadb.
09:06 <@Corydon76-work> Yahoo was a big MySQL user, even before Facebook
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09:07 <@Mirage> I haven't gotten around to playing with MariaDb yet.  How much has it diverged from MySQL?
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09:09 <@aestetix> Mirage: that's a good question. I'm also kind of interested
09:10 <@aestetix> Lately I have found the biggest drawback to mysql is how it handles migrations.
09:10 <@aestetix> Although 5.6 seems to support online indexing that doesn't block the table
09:13 <@Dagmar>  You're using the wrong db format
09:13 <@aestetix> Oh?
09:14 <@Dagmar> Of the two formats, innodb and whatever the fuck the other one is, one blocks entire tables.  The other requires COMMIT; and does row-level locking only
09:14 <@aestetix> InnoDB does block the whole table when it's doing migrations.
09:14 <@Dagmar> If you're seeing stuff block on the whole table you're using the sort of clunky does-not-thread-for-shit one
09:14 <@Mirage> MyISAM?
09:14 <@aestetix> Well, write-locks
09:14 <@Dagmar> Mirage: That's the one
09:14 <@aestetix> And yes, MyISAM is fucking awful for anything that's not heavy on reads
09:15 <@aestetix> Dagmar: I was referring more to if you have to add a field to a table
09:15 <@Dagmar> ah
09:15 <@aestetix> Pre 5.6 mysql also blocked the table from writes if you are adding an index
09:15 <@Mirage> I don't think the clustering format blocks either...but then the overhead and constraints are such that most people can't use it.
09:16 <@aestetix> But yeah, basically everyone uses InnoDB. MyISAM is only useful for things like wordpress blogs
09:17 <@aestetix> From what I understand there are some research table systems that have field and constraint level locking, which would be awesome.
09:19 <@aestetix> also, it is awesome when you've been up all night and discover some leftover adderall from a rave
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09:38 < nachoguy> wilpig: http://www.reddit.com/r/RoomPorn/comments/1nb8ug/david_karps_founder_and_ceo_of_tumblr_living_room/
09:38 < GateKeeper> Title: David Karp's (founder and CEO of tumblr) living room [1024x797] : RoomPorn (at www.reddit.com)
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09:39 < nachoguy> let me do that again
09:39 < nachoguy> wilpig: http://www.reddit.com/r/RoomPorn/comments/1nb8ug/david_karps_founder_and_ceo_of_tumblr_living_room/
09:39 < GateKeeper> Title: David Karp's (founder and CEO of tumblr) living room [1024x797] : RoomPorn (at www.reddit.com)
09:48 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: i have yet to receive this package?
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09:54 <@benthemeek> Evilpig: What was the opensource program you told me to check out for monitoring?
09:54 <@benthemeek> rather than the datacenter one you work on
10:01 <@Mirage> Nagios?
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11:44 <@Shadow404> anybody know any big companies in atlanta that are pro-teleworking?
11:49 < nachoguy> why ATL if they're pro teleworking?
11:49 < nachoguy> if you can telework, HQ shouldn't matter
11:50 <@Corydon76-work> Depends on whether they sometimes require you to come into the office
11:50 <@Corydon76-work> I come into the office once every 3-4 weeks
12:09 <@aestetix> ok anyone here know DNS well?
12:09 <@aestetix> my domain name is hosted in rackspace, I want to set up a subdomain name that uses a record type rackspace doesn't support
12:10 <@aestetix> any easy way to do that?
12:11 <@Mirage> don't use rackspace
12:11 <@Corydon76-work> Sure, do a delegation to another server
12:11 <@Corydon76-work> foo IN NS 1.2.3.4
12:11 <@aestetix> Thank you, that's what I needed.
12:11 <@Corydon76-work> Actually, the NS record may need a name and not an IP address
12:12 <@Mirage> aestetix: what exactly are you needing?  depending on what it is, delegation might not work as intended
12:12 <@aestetix> so basically, trying to set up a subdomain that uses a CERT record type
12:12 <@aestetix> and rackspace doesn't support that
12:12 <@Corydon76-work> What the heck is a CERT record type?
12:13 <@aestetix> it's a certificate served via dns :p
12:13 <@Mirage> NS should be able to use FQDN or IP.  Don't for get the trailing '.' using an FQDN.
12:13 <@aestetix> sort of like dkim
12:13 <@Corydon76-work> Interesting
12:13 <@aestetix> That's what I said.
12:13 <@Corydon76-work> but yeah, you should be able to use a delegation server for that
12:14 <@Mirage> yea, most likely.
12:14 <@aestetix> Ok, so basically I need to set up my own DNS server that serves the CERT record?
12:15  * aestetix grumbles something about hating dns
12:15 <@Mirage> on Rackspace add an entry to the zone:
12:16 <@Mirage> <subdomain_name>     IN     NS      <other_server>
12:16 <@Shadow404> what Corydon76-work mentioned, they sometimes require you to come in
12:16 <@Shadow404> aestetix: dns is my strong point
12:16 <@aestetix> oh cool
12:17 <@Mirage> on the <other_server> you need to setup bind to be authoratative for the subdomain, then add your records as needed.
12:17 <@aestetix> Shadow404: so what do you recommend? spin up a new ubuntu server running bind or something?
12:17 <@aestetix> or that
12:17 <@Shadow404> lemme check something that i use
12:17 <@Shadow404> he.net
12:19 <@Shadow404> aestetix: are you able to administrate the records yourself, and do they allow delegation?
12:19 <@aestetix> looking now
12:20 <@aestetix> I can create an NS record
12:21 <@aestetix> Hmm. It looks like I can only map the domain to an NS record. Would it make sense to set up an NS record to a new system, and have that new system serve the record for the subdomain?
12:22 <@Shadow404> i wonder if you could use a txt record to store the key
12:22 <@aestetix> Apparently not.
12:22 <@Shadow404> yes, i would do a subdomain delegation to a ns server that can do cert records
12:22 <@Shadow404> which not many offer
12:23 <@aestetix> well what I'm asking about is more like
12:23 <@aestetix> <domain_name> NS <other_server>
12:23 <@aestetix> and the subdomain would be listed on the other server
12:23 <@Shadow404> yep
12:23 <@aestetix> ok so that works?
12:23 <@Shadow404> yes, ive done that many times
12:23 <@Shadow404> sub.domain.com ns othernsserver.com
12:24 <@Shadow404> and then on othernsserver.com sub.domain.com is administered there for all those records
12:24 <@Mirage> IIRC..that's how _ALL_ DNS works.
12:25 <@Shadow404> Mirage: most cases, the primary root nameserver usually handles the subdomains too, but hes talking about delegating the sub's out to another nameserver
12:25 <@aestetix> well
12:26 <@Mirage> Shadow404: the root's hand out subs because they've already cached the lookup
12:26 <@aestetix> I'm suggesting delegating one sub to another nameserver
12:26 <@aestetix> I have several other subs that are on the primary nameserver
12:27 <@Mirage> aestetix: you can create as many subs as you want/need and either delegate them to another host or keep them authorative on the local server.  Either way there should be an NS record pointing to whatever server is authoratative.
12:28 <@aestetix> cool
12:28 <@Shadow404> exactly
12:28 <@aestetix> yeah it makes sense
12:29 <@Shadow404> which dns servers support cert?
12:31 <@aestetix> bind apparently
12:37 <@Shadow404> oh joy, bind
12:37 <@Shadow404> as powerful and robust as bind is, i hate doing dns at the command line
12:38 <@Shadow404> now if you have a gui to bind9 translator, so much easier
12:40 <@aestetix> so uh
12:40 <@aestetix> http://www.videntity.com/2013/08/how-to-serve-public-certificates-in-bind-for-the-direct-project/
12:40 <@aestetix> fyi
12:41 <@Shadow404> my old noc was wondering how i was pushing out huge records changes so quickly, until i showed them the gui i was using instead of the old cmd line crap
12:41 <@Mirage> aestetix: http://www.gushi.org/make-dns-cert/HOWTO.html
12:41 < GateKeeper> Title: Publishing PGP Keys in DNS (at www.gushi.org)
12:41 <@Shadow404> thats pretty straight forward
12:42 <@Shadow404> id work on getting the subdomain to serve at least an 'A' record first to make sure its delegating correctly, then setup the cert record
12:42 <@Shadow404> just my 2 copper coins
12:42 <@Mirage> or a TZt record
12:43 <@Mirage> er, TXT
12:43 <@Shadow404> hehe
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12:49 <@aestetix> vagina
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13:01 <@Shadow404> anus
13:02 <@aestetix> Shadow404: have you met Corydon76-work?
13:02 <@Shadow404> not that anus
13:02 <@Shadow404> just all of the no
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15:13 < RangerZ> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130929/15371724695/dojs-insane-argument-against-weev-hes-felon-because-he-broke-rules-we-made-up.shtml
15:13 < GateKeeper> Title: The DOJ's Insane Argument Against Weev: He's A Felon Because He Broke The Rules We Made Up | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com)
15:20 <@Dagmar> Weev will certainly get out if he can just avoid calling the judge a 'nigger' or something
15:22 <@aestetix> If they spell out what GNAA stands for, there goes that
15:23 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: the only thing an appeal is likely to do is change precedent on what the law means.  Facts of the case aren't up for appeal
15:24 <@aestetix> You know
15:25 <@aestetix> If all those userids had been password protected, even with a weak password
15:25 <@aestetix> I would be totally against weev
15:25  * aestetix sighs
15:25 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: No, you wouldn't.  You'd argue that a weak password is as good as none at all.
15:26 <@aestetix> Philosophically, maybe. Legally, no.
15:26 <@aestetix> "He had a crappy lock on his door, it was way too easy to break into."
15:26 <@aestetix> That's still B&E
15:26 <@Corydon76-work> Legally, he broke the law, and worse for him, the documentation shows that he knew he was breaking the law, so there's forethought.
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15:27 <@Dagmar> aestetix: That would not be correct.
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15:27 <@Dagmar> An ID number is not a password.
15:27 <@aestetix> Dagmar: I never said it was.
15:27 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: It's still B&E, even if there's no lock
15:27 <@Dagmar> Whether or not it is easy to get to does not matter.  It wasn't designed to be a password.
15:28 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: there's a clear definition of what constitutes a domicile. It's not as clear cut with a webserver.
15:28 <@Dagmar> This, being a webserver, means that there is an automatic assumption that access is allowed until the user is otherwise notified by a _demand for credentials_
15:28 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: Actually, it's VERY clearcut.  It's about exceeding your authorization.
15:28 <@Dagmar> He didn't exploit any bug in software.  He used the system exactly as it was meant to be used.
15:28 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: the way authorization is handled is not clearcut.
15:28 <@Dagmar> It's generally AT&T's fault that the system was impossibly fucking stupid
15:28 <@Dagmar> aestetix: not so.  HTTPd is very fucking clear
15:29 <@Dagmar> er the HTTP protocol
15:29 <@aestetix> Dagmar: I mean legally.
15:29 <@Dagmar> If it needed authorization, it can ask for such explicitly.
15:29 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: yes, and if he had only done that in terms of 10 or 12 lookups, there'd be no case.
15:29 <@aestetix> The definition of "authorization" in the CFAA is not very clear.
15:29 <@Dagmar> The CFAA doesn't need to be looked to for a definition in this case.  We have the HTTP RFCs.
15:29 <@Dagmar> Lots more fucking clear than the CFAA.
15:29 <@aestetix> Dagmar: I agree, but the law doesn't.
15:30 <@Corydon76-work> But when he does it to the tune of several million lookups, fraud is the evidence
15:30 <@aestetix> Which is the issue here.
15:30 <@Dagmar> ...because it was written by nerds who know their shit, not frat boys.
15:30 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: where's the fraud?
15:30 <@Dagmar> Yeah there was no fraud here either
15:30 <@Dagmar> The dude is in lockup for being a dick.
15:30 <@Dagmar> That's pretty much the length and breadth of it
15:30 <@Dagmar> He's paid the price for being a dick, and now it's time to cut him loose
15:31 <@Corydon76-work> The dude's in lockup because the evidence showed he knew what he was doing was illegal, and he did it anyway
15:31 <@Dagmar> Illegal according to whom
15:31 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: you mean where he said he stole data?
15:31 <@Corydon76-work> Weev, actually
15:31 <@aestetix> The challenge is, that depends on how theft works.
15:31 <@aestetix> I remain skeptical that copying data from a public website constitutes theft.
15:32 <@Dagmar> That's the great thing about law.  It doesn't magically expand in it's scope just because one guy thinks it does
15:32 <@Corydon76-work> If you believe that what you're doing is illegal, and there's at least a plausible case that it actually is, that's forethought of the crime.
15:32 <@Dagmar> That might be forethought but unless a crime actually took place, it's only conspiracy and a very weak case for that
15:32 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: if I walk up to a guy giving away free pencils, take a pencil, and then tell everyone I stole it, that doesn't make it theft.
15:32 <@Dagmar> if you plan a crime and it turns out to not actually be a crime, well...
15:32 <@Dagmar> That just means you suck at crime.
15:32 <@Corydon76-work> and the prosecuting attorney doesn't have to do much more than say to a judge, see, everybody agrees that what he did was illegal...
15:33 <@Corydon76-work> Judges can't adjudicate things that are not in dispute
15:33 <@aestetix> I will admit there's a bit of Dunning-Kruger going on here
15:34 <@aestetix> The thing is, even with admission of a crime, you need evidence.
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15:34 <@Corydon76-work> Once you get to that point, the only thing in dispute is how serious the crime is and what the punishment will be
15:34 <@aestetix> Otherwise you'd have to arrest all the people who turn themselves in for murders they see in the news.
15:34 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: I think several issues are at play, including the lack of technical proficiency of the judge.
15:35 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: actually, the reason they don't arrest those people is that it creates reasonable doubt for the real murderer
15:35 <@aestetix> (because a judge knows the law, not tech)
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15:35 <@Dagmar> Topic change: I need a polite way to say "If you're morbidly obese, don't bother contacting me" for these dating site things
15:36 <@aestetix> Dagmar: "free willy"?
15:36 <@Corydon76-work> We need to face the fact that just because something doesn't feel wrong doesn't mean it's not illegal
15:36 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-work: ...and something feeling wrong doesn't make it illegal.
15:36 <@Dagmar> What Weev did wasn't illegal.
15:36 <@Dagmar> He used a shitty system that was a public webserver.
15:37 <@Corydon76-work> Otherwise, the only claim you can possibly make is possibly a constitutional one.
15:37 <@Dagmar> Someone should probably slap the shit out of Apple for deploying such a crap system, becuase as I recall, California actually has penalties for that kind of shit
15:38 <@Corydon76-work> It's essentially the difference between ringing the doorbell for 4 or 5 residences at an apartment complex and ringing all of the doorbells
15:38 <@Dagmar> Ther'es no difference there.
15:38 <@Dagmar> Both things are legal
15:38 <@Corydon76-work> Weev rang all the doorbells, and he's essentially being prosecuted for being a nuisance
15:39 <@Bahhumbug> s/nuisance/dick/
15:39 <@Dagmar> By now I'm pretty sure he's served the maximum legal sentence for being a dick
15:39 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: if a bar calls the cops once or twice a month, that's different from a bar calling the cops 15 times a month.  For the latter case, the bar will be shut down for being a nuisance
15:39 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: I'm pretty sure being a dick is not illegal under the CFAA
15:40 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-work: ...and yet it's not a felony to be a dick.
15:40 <@aestetix> I mean, sure, disturbing the peace and whatnot.
15:40 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: in this case, it is, because of CFAA
15:40 <@Corydon76-work> You could argue that the law is not fair, and I'm receptive to that argument
15:41 <@Corydon76-work> But it's still the law right now.
15:41 <@Dagmar> He did not violate the CFAA.
15:41 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: or that the law is too vague to apply.
15:41 <@Dagmar> This is not a metaphor about a cheap lock on a door.  There was no lock.
15:41 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: that's another plausible case
15:41 <@aestetix> Dagmar: I wouldn't even suggest bringing a door into it.
15:41 <@aestetix> I've used the sidewalk analogy with people. Since it's a public webserver
15:41 <@Dagmar> Pretty much
15:42 <@aestetix> Also, regarding theft
15:43 <@aestetix> The analogy I have seen is "you enter someone's house and take all their stuff"
15:43 <@Dagmar> Take pictures of all their stuff maybe
15:43 <@Dagmar> Perhaps photocopy the furniture
15:43 <@aestetix> Which is kind of misleading. I returned with "you are on the sidewalk in front of someone's house, and see a bunch of random peoples shit laying around, and take some of it"
15:44 <@aestetix> Which is actually more complex, since it is technically person B's under 3rd party doctrine, but realistically person C will get mad about it
15:44 <@aestetix> Of course, person C will likely never find out
15:44 <@aestetix> (which is yet another issue that needs to be addressed)
15:44 <@Dagmar> Well, a very interesting thing to address is whether or not Apple reported this "breach" properly.
15:45 <@aestetix> you mean AT&T?
15:45 <@Dagmar> Sorry yeah, AT&T
15:45 <@Dagmar> They've got a legal responsibility to notify each and every one of those iPad owners about that breach.
15:45 <@Dagmar> As far as I can tell, they've never done any such thing
15:46 <@Shadow404> why would they until they are ordered too
15:46 <@Dagmar> because it's required by a certain date from the day of discovery
15:46 <@Shadow404> yeah, its required, but they will probably wait till a judge tells them too
15:46 <@Dagmar> That won't work.
15:47 <@aestetix> the weev shit and some other things have also resulted in the unfortunate case of my family begging me to go to law school :/
15:47 <@Dagmar> By that time a judge would be fining them for non-compliance
15:47 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Shit like that would have me in a hardened neoprene suit within five years
15:47 <@Dagmar> Probably a heat-sensitive mask
15:48 <@Dagmar> Rorschach is my kinda guy.
15:49 <@Corydon76-work> Shadow404: In California, the clock starts when they're notified of the breach.  I'm not aware of any other state with the same requirement
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18:48 < SuMo_D> so somebody must have sacrificed a chicken or something last night...
18:49 < SuMo_D> live 3D printer demo on the local morning show went off without a hitch
18:49 < SuMo_D> when does that ever happen?
19:12 <@Evilpig> when you've made a pact with satan?
19:18 <@Evilpig> i'd like to take a minute to point this out.  Once again my headset is unplugged.
19:18 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pcmn0y16vnonvqv/2013-09-30%2019.09.26.jpg
19:18 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-09-30 19.09.26.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
19:19 <@Evilpig> Nobody has logged into my workstation other than me, the cord isn't pulled out enough for someone to have connected it to a laptop that might have been hovering here.  and the cord is still full entangled in other cables so that it was not moved to another desk
19:20 <@Evilpig> Mongo, presumably, has unplugged it again for some insane got a full on oppressed negro complex that should have been dealt with so long ago.... .FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
19:38 <@Dagmar> Install something that makes a high-pitched keening sound when the headset is unplugged
19:40 <@Evilpig> I'm thinking more destructive.  Odds are I am going to belittle that fucktard when he walks in the door tomorrow night in front of pat and see if I can't get the piece of shit to take a swing at me on camera
19:41 <@Dagmar> Peter decided that now people get to call for disk warning conditions if they don't clear
19:41 <@Evilpig> He wants to go off to HR about harassment... this is harassment.  I've ignored it but I shouldn't have
19:41 <@Dagmar> So the new standard is going to be "whatever disk capacity it takes so that I don't get a call"
19:42 <@Evilpig> It's taking a good bit of restraint not to go over to his drawer and superglue them shut
19:42 <@Dagmar> I'd just do it the easy way.  Disconnect all the cables on the machine he uses.
19:43 <@Evilpig> laptop.  but possible.
19:43 <@Evilpig> I could leave the laptop in pieces as well, but that would affect rafiq
19:44 <@Evilpig> it's bullshit I am putting up with it period.
19:44 <@Evilpig> as far as the disk space.  I at least tried not to call you for that shit
19:44 <@Evilpig> email, yes...  call, rarely
19:45 <@Dagmar> Yeah well I got a call at 6:47am on Sunday about a volume at 88%
19:45 <@Evilpig> mongo and brian are not to be looked at like the rest of the noc.  treat them like the stumps that they are
19:46 <@Bahhumbug> I told you how to fix mongo.  It's your own damned fault for not listening.
19:46 <@Bahhumbug> :)
19:47 <@Evilpig> Bahhumbug: there would be a papertrail tied to the bloody wood chipper
19:47 <@Bahhumbug> No wood chipper.  Brake line.
19:47 <@Dagmar> ...not if you carefully spread gore _everywhere_
19:47 <@Bahhumbug> ^ or that
19:47 <@Evilpig> heh Dagmar... if I went that route I'd be walking the quad showering the buildings with entrails
19:48 <@Bahhumbug> Works for me.
19:48 <@Bahhumbug> Just film it for the rest of us to enjoy.
19:48  * Evilpig sings  DECK THE HALLS WITH BOWELS OF MONGO... FALALALALALA
19:48 <@Bahhumbug> hahaha
19:50 <@Bahhumbug> You know what I would find hilarious.  If a few months down the road you walked into you new job and see mongo in the noc there.
19:50 <@Evilpig> I'd murder every last person in this channel just for being remote witness
19:51 <@Bahhumbug> :)
19:51 <@Evilpig> I'd sooner recommend mercster for a job before i'd accept that possibility
19:51 <@Bahhumbug> I think we should invite mercster back.
19:51  * Bahhumbug hides
19:52 <@Dagmar> No.
19:53 <@Evilpig> Dagmar has spoken
19:55 <@Bahhumbug> Party pooper.
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20:08 < SuMo_D> I don't want to be murdered remotely
20:09 < SuMo_D> just sayin'
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20:09 <@Bahhumbug> You'd rather be murdered locally?
20:09 < SuMo_D> possibly
20:10 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: In the event you give a shit... RHEL-5.10 is dropping; it's in RHN now.
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20:15  * Bahhumbug sleeps
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20:20 <@Dagmar> I'd give a shit if I had time to worry about updating anything
20:21 <@Bahhumbug> With that way that place works I am honestly surprised they've not moved some brainiac like mongo to your department to "help" you.
20:21 <@Bahhumbug> That seems to be the way things work there.
20:22 <@Evilpig> I can suggest sucha  thing
20:22 <@Evilpig> I would no sooner make it a step outside of HR before Dagmar would have me gunned down, but I could
20:23 <@Dagmar> No, I'd gleefully proclaim "YOU HAVE ANOTHER UNIX ADMIN.  TRANSFER ME NAO."
20:23 <@Dagmar> I would not be even a little bit shy
20:24 <@Bahhumbug> Can he even _spell_ unix?
20:24 <@Dagmar> I have no intention of waiting around until they try and blame me for the result of their mismanagement.
20:24 <@Dagmar> No, but it doesn't matter.
20:24 <@Dagmar> They have a guy who came from the help desk doing all the F5 LTM stuff now.
20:24 <@Bahhumbug> _Any_ experience/
20:24 <@Bahhumbug> ?
20:25 <@Dagmar> The "architect" taught him how to modify a redirection list
20:25 <@Evilpig> lol
20:25 <@Dagmar> Unfortunately the entire thing is still configured stupidly.
20:25 <@Dagmar> The first level of redirection takes place _without_ considering the Host: header.
20:25 <@Bahhumbug> You have far more patience than I do with this sorta thing, I commend you on that.
20:25 <@Dagmar> Mental retardation is the new ITIL cert
20:26 <@Bahhumbug> hehe
20:26 <@Bahhumbug> And on that note...
20:26  * Bahhumbug Zzzzz
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20:28 < RangerZ> does anyone here have ties to a local HS or anything? I'm looking to get rid of that 42u rack
20:29 <@Evilpig> nerp
20:31 <@Evilpig> when you headed back to ohio?  after this semester or wha?
20:34 < RangerZ> yeah probably
20:34 < RangerZ> not sure when exactly, got to find a job first of all
20:35 < RangerZ> fucking apt contract changed when I renewed, and I didn't realize
20:36 < RangerZ> 2 months rent fee for leaving early now
20:36 < RangerZ> instead of just the $off that I had gotten before that point, apparently they decided that it wasn't 'bad' enough
20:36 <@Evilpig> They're fuckbags like that
20:37 < RangerZ> sublease is only 25$ fee
20:37 < RangerZ> I don't know about 'transfering' lease
20:37 < RangerZ> gotta go ask them
20:44 <@Dagmar> If you can deliver I can take it.  :)
20:44 <@Dagmar> Provided it's enclosed.
20:46 < RangerZ> it has front and back door
20:46 < RangerZ> no sides
20:46 < RangerZ> but could just put plastic or sheetmetal
20:47 < RangerZ> and Evilpig would be your delivery mechanism
20:48 < RangerZ> that or some twine tied to the rack and you pulling it down the road with your bike, riding on the casters
20:48 <@Evilpig> oh god.  can you just imagine the noise complaints stemming from that
20:48 < RangerZ> lol yeah
20:49 <@Dagmar> I have cut sheet metal before.  No thank you.
20:49 < RangerZ> actually, a thin plastic with foam on the inside would actually do better for sound dampening
20:54 < RangerZ> the jullian assange movie should be pretty interesting to see
20:54 < RangerZ> 5th estate, or w/e its called
20:55 < RangerZ> yeah, "The Fifth Estate"
20:57 < RangerZ> HAHAHA
20:57 < RangerZ> 50GB downloads for PS4 games
20:57 < RangerZ> comcrap is going to cry
21:06 <@Evilpig> nerp.  comcrap is laughing to the bank
21:07 <@Evilpig> 50GB seems a little excessive though damn.  but then I have to look at shit like WoW and they're close to that so... meh
21:20 < RangerZ> its all 1080p pre rendered video, and art assets
21:21 < RangerZ> b/c they make 'pretty' games now, not 'good' games, lol
21:22 < SuMo_D> mmmm purty
21:26 <@Evilpig> SuMo_D: you sure got a purty mouf
21:26 < SuMo_D> narwhal
21:27 <@Evilpig> okay js... what is wrong with this statement?
21:27 <@Evilpig> x=(x==cameras.length)?0:x++;
21:28 <@Evilpig> cameras.length evals out to 16 currently
21:28 <@Evilpig> that should be a simple if right?  if x is 16 then set it to 0, else increase by 1?
21:44 < RangerZ> evil, just use regular modular arithmetic
21:44 <@Evilpig> it liked x+1 just not +_
21:44 < RangerZ> if (x % 16) = 0 else ++
21:45 < RangerZ> let me see what the 'syntax' for JS is
21:45 <@Evilpig> I got it workin'.  it was just being retarded and not liking x++
21:45 < RangerZ> but in general, I don't recommend trinary operators
21:45 < RangerZ> a if/then statement is easier to read
21:46 < RangerZ> just put it in a function, and leave it alone like that
21:46 <@Evilpig> for this particular function I don't need itto be easier
21:46 <@Evilpig> x=(x==cameras.length-1)?0:x+1;
21:55 < RangerZ>  x=(x % cameras.length - 1)?0:x+1; is probably more 'accurate' but would be slower
21:55 < RangerZ> so as long as you don't plan on going 'way' outside array bounds
21:55 < RangerZ> == is fine
21:57 <@Evilpig> nah it's gonna be an int that will almost always be less than 32
22:02 < RangerZ> then yeah, I'd use that
22:03 < RangerZ> b/c modulus 'can' be expensive operation
22:27 <@aestetix> vagina
22:32 < SuMo_D> yes... vagina
22:59 < RangerZ> god damn it
22:59 < RangerZ> Panda Cam is down
22:59 < RangerZ> fucking republicans with their shut downs
22:59 < RangerZ> Panda Cam of the newborn Panda at washington zoo :/
23:00 < SuMo_D> awww
23:00 < notlarry> Seriously, it is time to act...
23:08 < RangerZ> HAHAHA
23:08 < RangerZ> google's image is now Yosemite National Park, which is now closed as of today
23:09 < RangerZ> on its 123rd anniversary
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23:39 <@Evilpig> notlarry!!!
23:39 <@Evilpig> I got it!
23:39 <@Evilpig> I am DA MAN!
23:42 <@Evilpig> new camera monitoring layout.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/tcj8585uqi5p274/2013-09-30%2023.41.19.jpg
23:42 < GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2013-09-30 23.41.19.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
23:43 <@aestetix> Shadow404: around?
23:43 <@aestetix> I have a DNS question
23:44 <@Evilpig> and you want to ask shadow?
23:44 <@aestetix> lol
23:44 <@aestetix> well basically
23:44 <@aestetix> I set up the subdomain on delegation
23:44 <@aestetix> and it recognizes the subdomain
23:44 <@aestetix> but the CERT record only shows up if I specify the dns server I set up
23:46 <@Evilpig> You sure your other servers recognize cert as a valid record type?
23:46 <@aestetix> fucked if I know
23:46 <@aestetix> I was hoping they would
23:47 <@aestetix> so I guess DNS servers can reject records from delegated servers?
23:52 <@oddball> http://kate-wisehart.tumblr.com/post/62746173098/sofuckingkatty-rawr-eat-everything
23:52 <@oddball> The Furbinomicon.
23:59 < notlarry> very nice
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