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01:12 <@aestetix> http://i.imgur.com/cibBFQ7.jpg wow just wow
01:12 <@aestetix> and nsfw
01:26 <@aestetix> http://www.cakefarter.com/
01:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Cake Farter Cakefarts Cake Farts (at www.cakefarter.com)
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02:51 < RangerZ> hmm oddd... it was trying to connect all day, but finally did
05:00 <@aestetix> man
05:00 <@aestetix> government shutdown on the way :p
05:20 <@Catonic> yay!
05:35 <@aestetix> man
05:35 <@aestetix> everyone seems to agree that the US is fucked up
05:35 <@aestetix> nobody seems to agree on why though
05:51 <@Bahhumbug> Republicans
06:17 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: do you have a tracking number for that package? i still havent received it.
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06:40 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:40 <@Shadow404>  what do you want?
06:41 <@Dolemite> Your head on a stick
06:41 <@Shadow404> you just need to go back to the rock you crawled out from under
06:41 <@Shadow404> ouch
07:34 <@Shadow404> how hard is it for people to get to work on time???? if it's raining outside, of course traffic will be worse, leave EARLIER!
07:34 <@opticron> I just plan to be at work 20 minutes early
07:35 <@Shadow404> yeah, same here, if i dont get to work +30 min early, i start stressing
07:35 <@Shadow404> but +30 min allows me to re-route side roads if need be
08:06 < frsilent> Shadow404: I don't get it either but at least my job doesn't really rely on being punctual
08:11 <@Shadow404> yeah, it doesnt here either, but then they leave at the same time i do
08:11 <@Shadow404> sorta makes me pissy when there 40mins late
08:12 < frsilent> oh lol, yeah my boss gets here 40mins late....he also stays for at least an extra hour or 2
08:12 < frsilent> one of those coders that operates best on monster at like 9pm & later
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08:27 <@brimstone> is he 40 minutes late, or 20 minutes early?
08:29 <@Shadow404> 40 minutes late, im 20 mins early
08:29 <@Shadow404> even on a bad weather morning
08:29 < frsilent> ^same
08:29 <@Shadow404> but leaves at the same time i do
08:29 <@Shadow404> hence -> pissy
08:29 < frsilent> then again...I've come to accept I'm an oddity & like being in the office early by myself
08:30 <@Shadow404> ^same
08:30 < frsilent> and a lot of mornings spend it on /r/programmerhumor
08:30 <@Shadow404> mines spent on nasa and youtube
08:30 < frsilent> lol
08:30 <@Shadow404> got my nigahiga and launches to keep track of
08:30 <@Shadow404> very important
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08:45 < frsilent> *sigh*
08:45 < frsilent> 09:42 < xxx > im looking for dict but i guess that is just a list of tuples isn't it
08:45 < frsilent> former coworker....wondering about the primitives of python...after having worked as a "django dev" for like 4 years
08:46 <@brimstone> it sounds like django devs have the same problem as most rails devs
08:47 < frsilent> lol, well with that job the absolute highest I negotiated with them to in order to keep me around was $30k/yr less than this job....
08:47 < frsilent> so at least in this case you get what you pay for
08:47 <@Shadow404> hehe
08:48 < frsilent> not that I'm some good programmer...I'm decent...and I guess my most important trait is that I'm not a fucking moron who doesn't know about google
08:50 < frsilent> and I say that with absolute sensitivity
08:59 <@Dolemite> Heh, just gave a data center tour to the wealthiest person I've ever met
08:59 <@Shadow404> i didnt drop by today
09:05 <@Mirage> Dolemite: and that was who?
09:05 <@Dolemite> Someone who measures their net worth in billions of dollars
09:06 < frsilent> Dolemite: that's my boss, one of the founders of bloomin' brands
09:07 < frsilent> comes by once a month to throw more shit on our plates that is "of absolute importance"
09:17 <@Dolemite> This guy was head of a very old and large private equity firm.  Pretty much on par with Bain Capital.
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09:25 < nachoguy> mr0nin
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09:30 <@Dolemite> howdy ho na cho
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09:58 < nachoguy> howdy doody pimp-a-re-no
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10:14 <@Dickie> sup poop-a-dildo
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10:18 <@Shadow404> what happening Dol'Nachokie
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10:43 <@Dagmar> fucking fuck fuck
10:43 <@Dagmar> "I figured it out. I needed a id_dsa file, which is a copy of the id_rsa file"
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10:51 <@eryc> lol
10:52 <@eryc> i'm surprised that works
10:57 <@Dagmar> It's part of a longer document, virtually every line of which is wrong in some way or another.
10:57 <@Dagmar> Up to and including using sudo to edit /etc/ssh/ssh_config
10:57 <@Dagmar> The reason this person came to my attention is that they apparently somehow lost the passphrase for their ssh key?
10:58 <@Dagmar> I think it's more a matter of they completely fucked it up, myself.
10:58 <@Dagmar> To add insult to injury, they also cc'd half their dept on this email
10:59 <@Dagmar> ...so I just had to write an email explaining to them how they were literally wrong about everything.
10:59 <@Dagmar> HOPEFULLY they will be able to discretely counter their own bogons.
10:59 <@Dagmar> Otherwise I'm going to see that shit coming back up for a long time
11:01 <@Dagmar> I don't even know why they came up with some of it, because like, ssh-keygen?  They specify -t rsa, but that's the freakin' default and has been forever
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11:23 <@Shadow404> keygen is simple to use
11:47 <@Dagmar> Yes it is.  These people have managed to use it wrong just the same.
11:47 <@Dagmar> I don't even...
11:47 <@Dagmar> *sigh*
12:12 <@Shadow404> there special and should wear caution helmets
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12:59 < SuMo_D> Has anybody in here used http://codebender.cc/
12:59 < GateKeeper> Title: codebender (at codebender.cc)
13:01 < SuMo_D> we are doing a kids class via webinar on programming those adafruit 16x32 panels - which some of you may have seen me bust out at PN - I think this might be a good option? thoughts? We're basicly all noobs who are like YEAH SCIENCE AND SHIT trying to make it work... so any help is helpful...
13:02 < SuMo_D> (like I've previsously... I'm more maker than hacker when it comes down to it... but you all may be turning me)
13:09 <@Dolemite> I am looking at doing a similar thing with the Boy Scouts STEM program.  Let me know how it works out for your project.
13:11 < SuMo_D> Sure thing
13:11 < SuMo_D> we've been going since April
13:12 < SuMo_D> I am kind of transitioning out of GMG - Greenville Makers Group - with CNwaV and Zero- its a lot easier to run a program... especially with kids than try to cultivate a community
13:12 <@Dolemite> The Boy Scouts STEM program is just starting up, and Knoxville is a pilot city for it.  I've already taught a group how to make Cat5 patch cables and explained why the pairs are twisted, etc.  They actually kept interest in such a dry topic.
13:12 < SuMo_D> we had some really good workshops on scratch and raspi programming and we're working on trying to build up to doing an invention expo in April
13:12 <@Dolemite> Of course, these are the Venturers, so we're talking 14-18 years old.
13:13 < SuMo_D> I just got booked to do the local morning show on Monday to spread the word... and they may want to do a reocurring thing so yeah... \M/
13:13 < SuMo_D> that's great
13:13 < SuMo_D> yeah... I kinda stepped into this program that was just a big bunch of ideas... with what's become one of my best friends... she gets super excited
13:14 < SuMo_D> and is like lets do this and this and this and this!!! in 10 different directions... with ages 8-18 which makes the teacher in me go whaaa
13:14 <@Dolemite> Two of the national committee members for the STEM initiative work here at the lab with me, so I've now become their contact for getting behind the scenes tours in the data center
13:14 < SuMo_D> but we've been pulling it off and making it work
13:15 <@Dolemite> Had one of the big anonymous benefactors of the STEM program in here this morning
13:15 < SuMo_D> she looked at the young engineers program in Charlotte to start with and then we were like pfft... we can do way better
13:15 < SuMo_D> that's awesome
13:15 <@Dolemite> Where are you based, Sumo?
13:16 <@Dolemite> Oh, Greeneville
13:16 < SuMo_D> Greenville South Carolina
13:16 < SuMo_D> yeah there's like... so many G-villes though :P
13:16 <@Dolemite> Yeah, there's on in East TN, too
13:17 < SuMo_D> but yeah we have a few engineers that are really committed to STEAM education and are helping us pull it all off
13:17 < SuMo_D> one guy is getting his GPS rocket program integrated into the elementry schools I think in Anderson?
13:17 <@Dolemite> I'll be driving near that area on Friday early AM on the way to Disney
13:17 <@Dolemite> though the closest I get will be Spartanburg
13:17 < SuMo_D> yeah I actually live on the NC/SC border
13:18 < SuMo_D> Spartanburg isn't too too far
13:18 < SuMo_D> I'll be there monday for the TV thing
13:18 < SuMo_D> This is what we'll be doing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu9ytaEg6q0&feature=c4-overview&list=UUv7puo0jf0Q4KS4ZFkhj5Ng
13:18 < GateKeeper> Title: Light Blocks Project with iT2pi - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:19 < SuMo_D> I got 850$ from the arts council for them...
13:19 < SuMo_D> but now we gotta get them programmed...
13:19 < SuMo_D> we did a soldering workshop 2 weeks ago so they'll be set to put together the Diavolinos themselves at the next one
13:21 < SuMo_D> but yeah... I've got the code down to turn on individual pixels... still working on the rest of it -
13:22 < SuMo_D> I'd love to do something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nnqw7U5EKw - I downloaded the files but didn't fully get it.....
13:22 < GateKeeper> Title: RGB Matrix Backpack for Adafruit 16x32 RGB LED Matrix Panel - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:22 < SuMo_D> I guess I have till Tuesday...
13:23 <@Dolemite> I'm trying to come up with like a 6-8 session workshop that would teach them the basics of a very simple programming language for RasPI or Arduino, and then a basic utility project for them to code.  I was thinking a good one would be a contact switch on a mailbox, a reset swtich, and two LEDs.  That way gramps would know whether or not he has mail without having to take his walker all the way out to the mailbox.
13:24 <@Dolemite> That seems like a universal enough project for everybody to understand the applicability of it, but also simple enough to teach while providing a good building block for more.
13:28 <@Shadow404> yes, if/then/reset case, with variables and physical input and outputs
13:28 <@Shadow404> nice idea
13:33 < SuMo_D> yeah
13:33 < SuMo_D> we're doing a home automation thing...
13:34 < SuMo_D> I'm not leading that one, so I'm not sure exactly how they're working it
13:34 < SuMo_D> I know there is a raspi involved... and yeah... walkers to the mailbox... been there... tools are helpful in those situations
13:35 < SuMo_D> Dolemite we've been doing python
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13:35 < SuMo_D> very basic python
13:35 <@Dolemite> codebender might be a good one for what I'm looking at, so we'll see
13:35 <@Dolemite> but python is also fairly easy
13:37 < frsilent> I don't know if it'd be too advanced but have you considered extempore?
13:37 < SuMo_D> Either way... starting with Scratch has been great
13:37 < SuMo_D> it helps visualize things
13:37 < SuMo_D> so then when you take it to a more complicated sytanax it clicks better
13:37 < frsilent> (not sure if that's a good choice in the context of arduino but I have very little experience)
13:38 < frsilent> I've been considering getting Robot Turtles for my CEO as a joke but I'm not sure if he'd find it funny or not
13:40 < SuMo_D> :)
13:41 < SuMo_D> make some brush bots...
13:41 < SuMo_D> paint them to be turtles
13:43 <@Mirage> Dolemite: wasn't there an article or something on /. a couple years ago for doing the mailbox monitoring?
13:43 <@Dolemite> I dunno
13:43 <@Dolemite> It's a common teaching example
13:44 < SuMo_D> www.instructables.com is a great place to look for projects like that
13:45 < SuMo_D> This one too... http://www.code.org/ for da Children!
13:45 < GateKeeper> Title: Code.org | Anybody can learn (at www.code.org)
13:45 < SuMo_D> I think it was last quarter's make? They had a whole list of great resources....
13:45 < SuMo_D> <<< is an artist/educator by profession if you couldn't tell
13:48 < SuMo_D> Sparkfun has a full curriculum too... and they'll come and do workshops, the Sparkfun Inventors kit is CC download... and worth looking into.
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14:05 < SuMo_D> Dolemite one thing we try emphasis in our program too is critical thinking skills.... we use the "design thinking" method - so that we're getting kids actually to become coders and not code monkeys - Notations in code are also pressed, as we are moving into group projects...
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14:06 < mikep> a program which actually teaches and allows a dynamic thought process.....thats ....actually pretty awesome
14:06 < mikep> esp when it comes to coding....
14:06 < SuMo_D> we're trying
14:07 < SuMo_D> its what happens when you get people from different backgrounds coming together I guess?
14:07 < mikep> better to say one has tried and failed (or hopefully in your case succeeds ) then to say one never tried at all
14:07 < SuMo_D> yarp
14:08 < frsilent> agreed
14:08 < mikep> well different background of those involved does certainly help, that was you are not producing cookie cutter coders who all know the same coding options, have the same thought process and more or less produce the same code
14:08 < frsilent> SuMo_D: where the hell were you when I was 12yrs old
14:09 < SuMo_D> that's part of why scratch is a great starter... since its drag and drop snips you can then focus on more what they are THINKING and then get them into harder stuff
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14:09 < SuMo_D> frsilent I was probably watching my brother mess with PGP shit
14:09 < SuMo_D> and going OooooOooo
14:09 < frsilent> it absolutely amazes me how many people lack those critical thinking / engineering / attention to detail skills
14:09 < SuMo_D> what?
14:09 < frsilent> even people I graduated with
14:09 < SuMo_D> well... that's the problem
14:09 < SuMo_D> that damn modernist mentality that plauges America
14:09 < SuMo_D> boxes
14:10 < SuMo_D> without overlap... fuck that
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14:10 < frsilent> like....seeing spelling/grammer mistakes in resumes/documention; copy-pastaed code from stackoverflow which contains variable names *nowhere* in the project it was pasted to...etc etc
14:11 < SuMo_D> we need all da shit all the time... yes we have our home cultures... and backgrounds... and people we identify connect with but especially when it comes to things that never should have been separated in the first place
14:11 < frsilent> mhmm
14:11 < SuMo_D> Oh science is one thing! Art is another! Art is only painting barns... watch me pull my hair out
14:11 < frsilent> just thought of this but since you mentioned python earlier that's pretty frigging cool
14:11 < SuMo_D> yes
14:11 < frsilent> since it can be integrated with so many languages
14:12 < SuMo_D> we I'm not sure how successful that is going... with the webinars
14:12 < frsilent> ie jpython & ironpython
14:12 < SuMo_D> but we'll see
14:12 < SuMo_D> I was doing my soldering workshop with the older kids
14:12 < SuMo_D> while they were demoing what they actually learned and applying
14:12 < SuMo_D> I saw some sensors doing something when I came back to their area as they were breaking down... so... something?
14:14 < SuMo_D> I know Coder Dojo Greenville... another kids programming course, Anne does the same thing with them... they start in scratch and then they move to esploras... they have to think about what kind of game they want to make and program
14:15 < SuMo_D> then they learn how to program the actual controller for it... its pretty awesome... shes on the other side of town, I'm trying to get stuff started in our little farm town and she's more in the center of the city. They're starting a new tech focused HS there too
14:15 < SuMo_D> I never... ever.... ever... thought I'd end up in the south east... let alone G-ville... but its actually pretty great here
14:15 < SuMo_D> people are so damn helpful too
14:17 < SuMo_D> there's problems, but people seem to be into actually solving them... if they're not too akwardly uncomfortable when you point them out
14:20 < SuMo_D> we have a lot invested in raspis at this point... so... python makes sense for us to work with
14:20 < SuMo_D> that and arduino C
14:21 < frsilent> right; my point with Python is that just by knowing it they can also interface with other languages, C/Java/C#/Ruby/etc
14:22 < frsilent> for instance in JPython you can import and use java libraries
14:22 < frsilent> <--python fanboy if you couldn't tell
14:24 < SuMo_D> sweet
14:24 < SuMo_D> yeah... as I stated earlier... I'm a noob... but got da passion
14:25 < SuMo_D> and other skills
14:25 < SuMo_D> we have two engineers that are helping us
14:25 < SuMo_D> they're great... they help a great deal with the technical aspects...
14:26 < SuMo_D> I'm more of a computer design background.... learned some action script for Flash pretty well once upon a decade ago... and HTML and all
14:26 < SuMo_D> but yeah - python seems pretty cool and versatile from what I've seen
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14:29 < SuMo_D> Dolemite: https://learn.sparkfun.com/curriculum - good place to look at - they have a great resource list for people to bug for funding... but sounds like you have that covered
14:29 < GateKeeper> Title: Curriculum - Learn.SFE (at learn.sparkfun.com)
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17:28 <@aestetix> ok so I'm confused
17:28 <@aestetix> why did Ted Cruz vote for Obamacare after a 21 hour speech against it?
17:44 <@eryc> he did?
17:46 <@aestetix> yep
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18:14 <@brimstone> for it or voting for getting rid of it?
18:14 <@brimstone> link?
18:18 <@aestetix> cnn.com
18:55 <@Evilpig> I need some powershell to adjust the system volume.  Anyone know of it right off hand?
18:56 <@Evilpig> Came into work and my camera is turned and my headset was unplugged, again.  It's time to teach mongo a thing or two about fucking with things that aren't his
19:00 <@Evilpig> http://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/PowerShell-Set-PC-Volume-1737b160
19:00 < GateKeeper> Title: Script PowerShell Set PC Volume Control (at gallery.technet.microsoft.com)
19:00 <@Evilpig> now to find a copy of something fun to play at max volume
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19:10 <@oddball> Camera?  on the desktops at the NOC?
19:11 <@Evilpig> yeah I have a webcam on my pc at work that I use with communicator
19:11 <@Evilpig> paranoid fuck turns it because he sits across the room from it.
19:11 <@oddball> ah
19:12 <@Evilpig> There is a camera right over his shoulder that is watching everything on this fucking screen...  but he fucks with mine.  I so want to use racial slurs and work him into a frothing frenzy
19:13 <@Evilpig> instead.  i'm thinking a little power shell, an annoying mp3, and a random timer to fuck with him for weeks
19:13 <@Evilpig> or no MP3 and just fuck with the volume randomly. yes....  this is good
19:13 <@Evilpig> evil.  random.  He's too stupid to know what to even look for.
19:14 <@Corydon76-work> Evilpig: I'm surprised you aren't just going to get an Eviltron from Thinkgeek and leave it somewhere in the NOC
19:14 <@oddball> See if you can find the random cow moos that Project Bovine used.  It will take him a few times to determine if they're real or not.
19:14 <@Evilpig> That would annoy the other people
19:14 <@Evilpig> I'm targetted with my revenge
19:15 <@Corydon76-work> Evilpig: yes, but think about the same thing... something to play small snippets in his headphones at random intervals
19:15 <@Evilpig> just mucking with the volume would be enough
19:15 <@Corydon76-work> Short enough that he questions whether or not he heard it, but often enough to drive him nuts
19:15 <@Evilpig> randomly lower it or raise it
19:15 <@Evilpig> it won't be safe for him to use headphones, or speakers
19:25 <@aestetix> vagina
19:34 <@Evilpig> LOL  http://www.shocktoberfest.com/attractions/#naked    "*Please note there is an additional cleaning charge if we scare the p*ss out of you!"
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20:48  * Evilpig slaps aestetix with a large trout
21:03 <@Dickie> Give me my trout back
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21:48 <@Evilpig> It appears that catonic is having a lovely night out.  lol "FYI: the dsm-v is not a bingo game for bad dates..."
21:51 <@Dagmar> hahah
21:51 <@Dagmar> You think he's being fitted for a jacket with extra-long sleeves, perhaps?
21:52 <@Dagmar> evilpig: Also, Comcastcares didn't get the hint when I ignored them
21:52 <@Dagmar> A LART has been launched.
21:53 <@Dagmar> I'll be damned if I'll waste my time discussing how their technical support people can't figure out that they should just push a report upstairs and close the call
21:53 <@Dagmar> All it will be is hours of me telling them things and them pretending that they're listning
21:53 <@Dagmar> I can get plenty of that at the office
22:16 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you still on call?
22:16 <@Dagmar> Who else would be?
22:16 <@Evilpig> new dummy?
22:16 <@Evilpig> something is chewing on wb22
22:17 <@Evilpig> Load : 41.49 32.17 13.91 : 41.49 > 30 : CRITICAL 32.17 > 25 : CRITICAL
22:17 <@Dagmar> sheet
22:17 <@Evilpig> hc 
22:17 <@Dagmar> Looks like Mirage's extreme duress measures kicked in and murdered it
22:18 <@Evilpig> good .  cause I hadn't fully gotten a ticket put in yet
22:19 <@Dagmar> Im' seriously considering proposing limiting the number of clockcycles those VMs can have, just to give the machines a better chance of recovering
22:19 <@Dagmar> Probably doesn't hurt that the httpd on most of them are automatically niced down a bit now
22:20 <@Dagmar> That's one of the things I kinda wanted to strangle Sean over
22:20 <@Dagmar> We've got one damn thing it would be useful to renice, and he wants to talk about it starting some kind of never ending tweak-fest
22:34 < SuMo_D> oh... if there weren't a boss who wanted to go start a never ending tweak-fest.. where would all the rage in the world go
22:41 <@Evilpig> http://www.reddit.com/r/nashville/comments/1mz3ks/i_puked_on_someone_i_met_at_the_bar/
22:41 < GateKeeper> Title: I puked on Someone I met at the Bar : nashville (at www.reddit.com)
22:41 <@Evilpig> lol
22:42 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: Oh he wasn't a boss
22:42 < SuMo_D> ah...
22:42 < SuMo_D> even worse
22:43 <@Dagmar> Yeah I couldn't even get him to come to a "consensus" about the enumeration of our UIDs across a hundred plus systems
22:43 <@Dagmar> He wanted to run his mouth about things like "What if a vendor has a product that's tied to a uid below 1024"
22:43 <@Dagmar> Yes, _1024_.
22:44 < SuMo_D> blah
22:44 <@Dagmar> Nevermind that the number to worry about is 1,000, and definitely nevermind that none of that is ever done numerically or you are truly working your way up to amateur hour
22:45 < SuMo_D> yeah... see... I'm not sure if I follow all that... but I'd at least keep my mouth shut about it... a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing
22:45 <@Dagmar> Even Computer Associates, who doesn't see it as a problem to create a non-root mysql account and then grant it * on *.*, was dumb enough to lock things to a numeric UID
22:46 <@Dagmar> er wasn't
22:46 < SuMo_D> lol - ok that one I got
22:46 <@Dagmar> SuMo_D: Well, ports below 1024 are special.  UIDs below 1000 are almost universally role, daemon, service, or elevated privilege accounts
22:47 <@Dagmar> I just wanted to canonicalize what we'd been doing already so that I could go clean up all the one-offs
22:47 <@Dagmar> Dude even wanted to tie sudo access to a group called 'sysadmin'.
22:47 <@Dagmar> That's no better than using 'wheel' alone.
22:47 < SuMo_D> lol
22:47 < SuMo_D> oh no
22:47 <@Dagmar> The moment you have two separate classes of admin, that _breaks_
22:48 <@Dagmar> ...and we have them in the sister environment which will will almost certainly re-merge with within the year
22:48 < SuMo_D> oh gawd
22:48 <@Dagmar> Internal customers who are not our IT division employees who also need sudo elevation
22:49 < SuMo_D> right
22:49 <@Dagmar> I think mainly he hasn't been around long enough to always plan for infinite granularity
22:50 <@Dagmar> ...or to plan for possibly having to turn over control of a server to another group.
22:50 < SuMo_D> probably not... doesn't sound like something you'd know unless you worked in an environment where it was addressed
22:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah but when I'm standing there saying it's needed there's no real excuse for it
22:50 < SuMo_D> exactly
22:50 <@Dagmar> I sort of "just got back" from spending a year in that other sister department
22:51 < SuMo_D> some people need to know when to be quiet
22:51 <@Dagmar> I will take another crack at it next week now that he's gone
22:51 <@Dagmar> We ain't playin the "what if" game anymore
22:52 < SuMo_D> (its pretty funny I'm saying some people should be quiet... I'm pretty loud... most of the time...)
22:52 <@Dagmar> The messes are going to get cleaned up because I'm tired of looking at them and tired of having to work around this, that, and the other thing when I have to apply a change to 100+ servers at once
22:52 < SuMo_D> but maybe its the recognizing hey... some people know stuff - shut the fuck up and learn
22:52 <@Dagmar> I'll spent an hour coding something up, ten minutes running it, and two hours going through and having to deal with all the exceptions.
22:52 <@Evilpig> http://gizmodo.com/scientists-created-a-new-form-of-matter-and-its-like-a-1387420181
22:53 < SuMo_D> yeah... I'm more of an educator - not sure if you saw that whole convo earlier
22:53 < SuMo_D> gotta teach people to think and be actual coders... not just code monkeys
22:53 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Screw lightsabers.  That's a big step closer to being able to fire "little yellow bolts of light"
22:53 <@Evilpig> a molecule made up of light.  now this is cool
22:54 <@Dagmar> ...or maybe some really wicked concert effects.
22:55 < SuMo_D> yeah
22:55 <@Dagmar> ...although it'll probably lead to a form of subatomic computation using photon moleclues like FETs
22:56 <@Evilpig> The last blurb in that was talking about it possibly being used in quantum computing
22:57 < SuMo_D> oh Evilpig my friend who went to Rugters got back to me and wasn't helpful... sorry dude
22:57 <@Evilpig> it's all good.  I got an apt secured yesterday
22:57 < SuMo_D> my other friend who lives in Jersey that I wasn't sure where... said its a nice area with a lot to do
22:57 < SuMo_D> awesome
22:57 <@Evilpig> http://hidden.prospectportal.com/Apartments/module/property_info/property%5Bid%5D/9358/
22:57 < GateKeeper> Title: Kaplan Associates, LLC Apartment Rentals (at hidden.prospectportal.com)
22:57 <@Evilpig> this place here
22:58 <@Evilpig> The paperwork should be here later today.  they were supposed to overnight it.
22:58 < SuMo_D> woo hoo
22:58 < SuMo_D> congrats
22:58 <@Evilpig> thanks.  now just to get the specifics on getting moved set
22:59 < SuMo_D> :D
22:59 <@Evilpig> 900miles of driving is gonna be tiring no matter how you look at it
22:59 < SuMo_D> yeah
22:59 < SuMo_D> are they paying to move you?
22:59 <@Evilpig> yeah.  well partially
22:59 <@Evilpig> they dont' normally offer relocation for this position, but they did for me
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22:59 < SuMo_D> I have had to do the cross country thing a few times
23:00 < SuMo_D> cool!
23:00 < SuMo_D> I can try to look up the shipper I used... they were really reasonable
23:00 < SuMo_D> depends how much you're taking
23:01 <@Evilpig> I've priced several and it's looking like I am gonna end up just getting a truck and trailer
23:01 < SuMo_D> sometimes its best to just hit reset.... I did that with Boston to NYC... just rented a car... and if it didn't fit... it didn't go
23:01 <@Evilpig> I can get people to help unload on that end and just get a uhaul pretty damn cheap
23:01 < SuMo_D> yeah sounds like a plan
23:01 <@Evilpig> I'm cutting down on what is going.  but I love my bed.
23:02 <@Evilpig> plus I paid a small fortune for it as well.
23:02 < SuMo_D> yeah
23:03 <@Dagmar> It's so hard to find a bed frame with enough resistance to torsion to screw in eyebolts, too
23:03 <@Evilpig> lol
23:04 <@Dagmar> I had some in my first waterbed frame
23:04 <@Dagmar> Handy things they are.
23:04 <@Evilpig> http://wdtvhubgen.codeplex.com/   bah.  still no fix
23:04 < GateKeeper> Title: WDTVHubGen - Adds Metadata, thumbnails and subtitles to WDTV Live Hubs - Home (at wdtvhubgen.codeplex.com)
23:04 <@Dagmar> Not quite as entertaining when mom comes to help you move tho
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23:05 <@Dagmar> Branching out into new expressions, I see
23:05 < RangerZ> http://hacknashville.com/
23:05 < GateKeeper> Title: HackNashville (at hacknashville.com)
23:05 < RangerZ> "for info on HackNashville, which is an upcoming 48-hour hackathon for
23:05 < RangerZ> coders and creators in Nashville, TN.  Hacking begins Oct. 18th at
23:05 < RangerZ> 7PM. Demos start Oct. 20th at 7PM.  Food and drink is provided."
23:06 <@Dagmar> WEll, they use the PyCon code of conduct so iStareAtBoobies is out
23:06 < SuMo_D> pilarry I saw you messing with the pi briefly at PN what were you doing?
23:06 < RangerZ> yeah, but 'ehh'
23:06 <@Dagmar> I wonder how they'd feel about a partner app to go with a plastic handle for measurement of light spanking
23:07 <@PiLarry> Just making it into an access point, a bridge, we were trying to get unreal running on it
23:07 < SuMo_D> cool
23:08 <@PiLarry> moj0e had the r00tw4rz score server running on it, but I screwed up the actual virtualization sever:(
23:09 < SuMo_D> well... learn by doing right - mistakes and screw ups count
23:09 <@PiLarry> I want to put together one with an fm tranmiter in it that you can plug into a public place (coffee shop?) and it will log into their open wifi,phone home, and start "broadcasting its pirate signal""
23:09 <@Dagmar> We should go into brokerage to fund the next Phreaknic
23:09 <@PiLarry> I got to go get that server and see if I can't get it running right.
23:09 <@PiLarry> 7milliseconds, wow.
23:09 <@Dagmar> Yeah you saw that
23:09 <@Dagmar> I love how trusting the Fed was there.
23:10 <@PiLarry> Drooled a little over that:)
23:10  * Evilpig feels like he missed something
23:10 <@PiLarry> If only I could be a criminal.
23:10 <@Dagmar> "Now, we might give you this data in advance so it can be distributed quickly, but don't do it too quickly now"
23:10 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: There was a bit of cheating to the tune of 600 million in buy orders
23:10 <@PiLarry> Fed released it's info in New York, seven milliseconds later it is pulbished in chicago
23:10 <@Evilpig> nm.  I gotcha.  I did glance at that earlier
23:11 <@Dagmar> ...involving a press release from the Fed that was supposed to be released exactly at 2pm.
23:11 <@PiLarry> however, 2 milliseconds after new york, 600 million in trades went down based on the feds anouncement:)
23:11 <@Dagmar> I can think of multiple ways to cheat that and one wouldnt' even be technical.  It would only require collusion from one member of the press and two phone numbers.
23:12 <@Dagmar> My thinking is that since the reporters were allowed to see the report ten minutes early, and could esablish a phone line to their editors, it's just a matter of which number they'd dial to the editor
23:12 <@Evilpig> Dolph Lundgren and an MMA fighter.  This is gotta be good. http://kickass.to/ambushed-2013-brrip-xvid-etrg-t7922791.html
23:13 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking one of the low-latency trading outfits probably saw that the fed had poorly defined how the release was supposed to work, and elected to decide that the information shoudl be released to customers at 2pm rather than leave the announcement point at 2pm
23:14 <@Dagmar> ...cuz that wouldn't even be illegal
23:15 <@Dagmar> 'cuz 600 million is a bit more than I think someone would drop on the basis of "well, we can probably sell it back in a few minutes and not lose much"
23:16 <@Dagmar> http://www.wtvf.com/story/23530116/two-suspects-wanted-in-credit-card-fraud lol they turned the transciever dish
23:16 < GateKeeper> Title: Two Suspects Wanted In Credit Card Fraud - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.wtvf.com)
23:17 <@Evilpig> "No one noticed the man on top of the gas station while he was altering to satellites."  lol
23:17 <@Dagmar> Interrrupt the signal and I doubt it will balk on purchases less than $50
23:18 <@Dagmar> I was actually astonished to see the register at Home Depot accept my pin typed incorrectly for a $5 purchase last month
23:18 <@Dagmar> Thats' just kinda lazy
23:18 <@Evilpig> very
23:18 <@Evilpig> I'm still amused by being able to use paypal at homedepot
23:18 < SuMo_D> they don't technically need it for purchases under 15$ or something like that...
23:18 <@Evilpig> or was it lowes?  it's one of the two
23:19 < SuMo_D> depends on the bank...
23:19 < SuMo_D> a lot of them will approve without a pin
23:19 < SuMo_D> for low amounts..
23:24 <@Evilpig> hrmmm.  looks like comcrap is available where I am moving to.  since those assholes set me up as a /30 I should be able to move all my shit up there and keep my IP.
23:39 <@Evilpig> worst website ever.  www.forrent.com
23:39 <@Evilpig> eats ram for breakfast
23:41 < SuMo_D> yum
23:41 <@Evilpig> anyone know what kind of bandwidth cap, if any, exists with verizon fios?
23:43 < SuMo_D> I don't think any...
23:43 < SuMo_D> my friend has Fios up there and he loves it
23:43 < SuMo_D> and he's picky
23:44 <@Evilpig> that would be nice.
23:45 <@Evilpig> hrmmm.  static ip, 50/25Mb  $120/mo
23:50 < frsilent> http://imgur.com/alC23cp
23:50 < GateKeeper> Title: WHAT DOES THE FOX SAY? - Imgur (at imgur.com)
23:50 < frsilent> ^loled
23:51 <@Evilpig> wtf?
23:51 < SuMo_D> do a barrel roll
23:51 < frsilent> latest internet sensation for those who haven't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
23:51 < GateKeeper> Title: Ylvis - The Fox [Official music video HD] - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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