--- Log opened Mon Sep 09 00:00:01 2013 01:27 < Evilpig_> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1198199/ This could just about be about my ex 01:27 < GateKeeper> Title: About Sunny (2011) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) 02:09 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-98-211-46-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:31 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-98-211-46-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:33 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-98-211-46-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:38 <@Catonic> CM has it's place... 1) auditing, 2) select * from change where servername = foo; 02:39 <@Catonic> instant reconstitution of a server up to date in time. 02:39 < Evilpig_> exactly 02:39 < Evilpig_> but with CM there are many actions which shouldn't need some type of mgmt approval as well 02:40 < Evilpig_> with so many managers here they have to fill their day somehow, and demanding to approve things does that 02:41 <@Catonic> otoh, the "boss" can quench retardedness before it gets to the admin 02:42 <@Catonic> otoh, that leaves the boss with too much direction and the worker with not enough input 02:42 <@Catonic> after all, what's the point of being the expert if you're never consulted. 04:22 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-19-104.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:35 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-19-104.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 04:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 06:31 -!- Dolemite [80db310d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.219.49.13] has joined #se2600 06:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 06:31 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o critch] by ChanServ 07:57 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@74.10.169.50] has joined #se2600 07:57 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@74.10.169.50] has quit [Changing host] 07:57 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 07:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 08:06 <@Catonic> mornin folks 08:16 <@Shadow404> morning 08:16 < frsilent> gm * 08:18 <@Shadow404> Catonic: depends on the pay, i dont mind being the subject matter expert and not getting consulted and still get paid well, i actually prefer to be left to my own devices rather than sit in on meetings for hours and my only input is about 3 minutes worth when the topic touches my system 08:44 <@aestetix> http://cryptome.org/2013/09/nsa-cowboy.htm 08:44 < GateKeeper> Title: The Cowboy of the NSA Keith Alexander (at cryptome.org) 08:44 <@aestetix> Shadow404: what are you an expert on? 08:47 < Evilpig_> jerking it 08:53 <@Dolemite> Aren't we all? 08:58 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 08:59 -!- critch1 [~Adium@70-88-0-209-nashville-tn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 09:00 -!- critch [~critch@70-88-0-209-nashville-tn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:00 -!- critch1 is now known as critch 09:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o critch] by ChanServ 09:04 < Evilpig_> alright. bedtime for piggie. flight at 6 09:21 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:30 -!- Iyeman [~Iyeman@74.51.97.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 09:37 <@Shadow404> Evilpig_: hence i get paid well and prefer to be left to my own devices 09:38 <@Shadow404> aestetix: a particualary database at work for account cancellations and the script that does the provisioning on the accounting and network side for shut/no shut ports assigned for each customer connection 09:38 <@Shadow404> so any new update or process change requires hours worth of meetings 09:41 <@Shadow404> the network and ports are pretty standardized, but i have a prompt that verifies information that requires a human go ahead, but saves about an hour of work and human error 09:49 -!- Zero-|Work [~zerominus@68.208.149.253] has joined #se2600 09:51 -!- ZeroMinuS|Work [~zerominus@68.208.149.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:58 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: some more than others 10:05 <@aestetix> vagina 10:11 <@Shadow404> aestetix: what are you the subject matter expert in? 10:11 <@Shadow404> at work i mean 10:12 <@aestetix> when systems crash, I get blamed 10:12 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-98-211-46-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:14 <@Dagmar> Fucking idiots. 10:14 <@aestetix> Shadow404: why 10:14 <@Dagmar> As per usual, they're moving all my changes to 8pm and later. 10:14 <@Dagmar> Our policies are fucking moronic. 10:21 <@Shadow404> aestetix: my computer crashed, its your fault 10:30 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: You got OT? 10:30 <@Bahhumbug> s/got/get/ 10:32 <@Dagmar> Nope 10:32 <@Dagmar> I just sent an email to our HR contact making it clear that this place is heading for an implosion, and I've *no* intention of sticking around to take the blame for it. 10:33 <@Dagmar> I don't know if we should be having a meeting about that or not. 10:33 <@Bahhumbug> What would a meeting accomplish? 10:33 <@Dagmar> I *did* tell them months ago that this was where things were headed. 10:33 <@Bahhumbug> Other than to waste your time and irritate you even more. 10:33 <@Dagmar> Bahumbug: Basically, I'm trying to feel out whether or not I'm going to wind up getting a bad reference if I leave in the middle of this shit 10:34 <@Dagmar> ...and ever so delicately pointing out the conditions that could very easily turn into _me having to sue them_ 10:35 <@Dagmar> If I have to quit because they're insane, and it leaves this department *completely* in the lurch, they're probably going to try to give me a bad reference. 10:35 <@Bahhumbug> The feeling I get from listening to you and Wilbur makes it pretty clear that they won't be giving glowing references. 10:35 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure that's not legal. 10:35 <@Bahhumbug> I don't know the legality of it, but it sure wouldn't surprise me if they did. 10:35 <@Dagmar> Well, it's not like they're leaving me any choice. 10:35 <@Bahhumbug> You have _FAR_ too much fucking "management" in the way. You could easily bury half of them and you'd still have too much. 10:36 <@Dagmar> That's a given 10:39 <@Bahhumbug> I feel bad for you, Dagmar. I don't know you from Adam but it's clearly obvious that you know your shit. And you're working for a pittance. _AND_ having to deal with the layer upon layer of stupid^Wpolitics. 10:39 <@Bahhumbug> I don't have that level of patience at my age. 10:39 <@Bahhumbug> I would either blow up and get shitcanned or just walk right the fuck out and never return. 10:41 <@Dolemite> Dagmar: Vanderbilt policy states that they don't give out good *or* bad references - they will simply affirm whether or not you were employed at a specific time, and whether or not you are eligible for rehire. 10:42 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: Good enough for me. Now I just have to worry about the karma 10:42 <@Dolemite> So the only thing you really have to worry about is the last one - which will be a yes as long as you (a) aren't fired and (b) give proper notice and continue to come in for that final period. 10:42 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.149.109.21] has joined #se2600 10:42 <@Dagmar> I actually *like* doing stuff for Lacy Tite and the people in Public Affairs. They come up with problems that are interesting without being wildly insane. 10:43 <@Dagmar> I will actually miss it 10:52 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: The other thing I wanted to make clear to HR is that this is *far* too much work for one person to do, and I now *must* cut back on the amount of after-hours bullshit for health reasons. 10:53 <@Dagmar> There ARE going to be angry users soon, and I'm trying to make sure that no one gets away with blaming me. 10:53 <@Dagmar> I am not the cause of this cock-up, and I'm not taking the rap for it. 10:53 <@Dagmar> I'll go have a sit down with the fucking CIO personally and make some enemies for life first. 10:53 <@Dagmar> Fuck I'm probably more qualified to talk to him than HOgan 10:54 <@Dolemite> Qualified? Definitely. Hogan just knows how to kiss ass infinitely better. 10:55 <@Dolemite> Ok, meeting time 10:55 <@Dagmar> There's still apaprently one of those signs up that state our primary goal is to provide service to the users, up on the wall in the NOC. 10:55 <@Dagmar> I'm going to make sure to take a picture of it today. 10:55 <@Dagmar> This place has lost sight of that. 11:02 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@129.59.115.4] has joined #se2600 11:24 -!- Zero-|Work [~zerominus@68.208.149.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:24 -!- ZeroMinuS|Work [~zerominus@68.208.149.253] has joined #se2600 11:25 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.149.109.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:17 < northrup> Dagmar: This isn't anything new, you're just at the apex of a long rise to it. It started in 2001 when Academic Computing and Information Systems (ACIS) was disolved and merged with telecom to form ITS. 12:17 < northrup> prior to this action, ACIS was under the provost and purely acadmeic in nature. 12:18 < northrup> after this action, ITS sits under the Division of Administration and could give two shits lets about the academic computing efforts on campus 12:18 < northrup> s/lets/less/ 12:19 <@Shadow404> then what DO they give a shit about then? 12:20 < northrup> Welcome to being part of a cog in the machine... the given statement is "Supporting the University's Computing needs" 12:21 < northrup> but this has devolved into running THE MOST corporate and non-academic software sutie, so you get an Org who's sole purpose is to run Active Directory, and Microsoft Exchange 12:21 <@Dolemite> It definitely got all corporatized under Matt Hall, that's for sure 12:21 < northrup> oh yeah, and there's some file servers and storage... but nobody hops to fast on either of those. 12:21 < northrup> Dolemite: Matt Hall was the deth knell for anything good coming out of ITS. 12:22 <@Dolemite> Yet it seems that after he left, the bullshit ratcheted up even higher 12:22 < northrup> I left under Matt Hall the day he sat through a VUmail meeting and at the end of it after the sakeholders had left said "you know what, I know what the problem is. From here on out, I'm going to say it, you're going to do it, and it'll be good" 12:23 < northrup> and in one move, he completely changed ITS from caring about what the stakeholders had to say about our products, and moved ITS into a "we 12:23 <@Shadow404> northrup: so he became god? 12:23 < northrup> "we'll tell you what you need, and you'll like it" 12:23 -!- critch1 [~Adium@70-88-0-209-nashville-tn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 12:23 -!- critch [~Adium@70-88-0-209-nashville-tn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:23 < northrup> Shadow404: In a very real sense, yes. Even to the point that none of his decisions could be questioned. period. 12:24 < northrup> Shadow404: if you questioned a decision or comment made by MH, you were clearly "trying to plot against him" and litterally labeled as "subversive" 12:25 -!- critch1 [~Adium@70-88-0-209-nashville-tn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:25 -!- critch [~Adium@70-88-0-209-nashville-tn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 12:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o critch] by ChanServ 12:25 <@Shadow404> yep, ive been in many work envronments like that 12:25 < northrup> This BS extended down into those of us that had architected services like VUmail, and the VUnet ID from the ground up... and our continued support and maintinance on those services, rather than letting them fail was seen as "unsupportive of a regime change" 12:25 < northrup> because I didnt have Micro$oft tattoed on my ass, like he did. 12:25 <@Dolemite> northrup: The odd thing is, though - he did have a few of us that he kept around to question him, but only on certain things 12:26 <@Shadow404> hows the server catalog'ing scheme going? 12:26 < northrup> Dolemite: I'm willing to bet that the things you were allowed to question him on were the approach, and not the direction. 12:27 <@Dolemite> northrup: It's possible 12:28 < northrup> To Dagmar's current quandry... I left because I came to the opinion that if I was going to be treated like shit my management, I was certainly going to get paid a hell of a lot more for it. 12:28 <@Shadow404> northrup, same reason i left my last job 12:28 < northrup> I've never met a more pompus asshole than that of Matt Hall... 12:28 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I kept getting that "Asst. Director" title dangled in front of me, and when Lucy pulled the football out from in front of my foot again, I left 12:28 -!- critch1 [~Adium@70-88-0-209-nashville-tn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 12:29 <@Shadow404> fortunately the place i went to not only has far better compensation, but far better management 12:29 -!- critch [~Adium@70-88-0-209-nashville-tn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:29 <@Dolemite> northrup: Oh, I've met much worse 12:29 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: your in a much better place now though 12:29 < critch1> sorry for the bouncing, boss decided to upgrade firmware on crappy consumer router. Should be stable now that I plugged in. 12:30 <@Dolemite> Shadow404: True that 12:30 * Shadow404 ties critch1 down so he cant bounce anymore 12:30 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: somethings work out that way 12:30 < northrup> Dolemite: Really? Because I've now spent time in the valley and in nyc and I have yet to find someone like MH. A man that didn't know technology from his anus and was so viciously ignorant that everyone felt it. 12:31 <@Shadow404> if my boss hadn't been such an ass, i would still be stuck in a dead-end contract without benefits 12:31 < northrup> OK, ok... I'll back up... I probably have, I just take the whole MH thing extremely personal 12:31 <@Dolemite> northrup: I worked for a company called Compsee back in the mid-90s. I reported to a jack ass named Billy Graham out of Florida that was a fucking Luddite, yet was the VP of Sales and Support for a barcode equipment distributor. 12:32 <@Shadow404> she also lost 2/3r'ds of her team in less than a week and got demoted because if it after we left 12:32 < northrup> Dolemite: HA!! You're probably right, I just blame MH for the demise of the place that I truely *loved* working at. 12:33 <@Shadow404> anyone that dictates that an environment should be entirely run on m$ is a lunatic 12:33 < northrup> In reality, it was the direction set my Lauren B. and the tone from the top of the Universtiy about the direction that it wanted to go with IT. He was just the tool to fill the spot. 12:33 <@Dolemite> northrup: Kinda like how I blame Jonathan Schwartz for being the death of Sun, even though he was really just the First Mate assigned to the wheel of a sinking ship 12:34 < northrup> Dolemite: I completely agree, I blamed him and resented him for a long time untill I came to the same way of looking at it. 12:34 < northrup> Dolemite: I deeply miss Sun 12:35 <@Dolemite> At this point the only thing that pisses me off about Sun is that I couldn't ever get on the layoff list. I had to outright quit. 12:37 < northrup> The only thing that I like about Ellison is that sort of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" 12:37 < northrup> I loathe RedHat, and his desire to now crush them under his heel makes me happy. 12:38 <@Dolemite> Eh, I got no beef with RedHat, but I do think that Ellison is the Alpha Male of the pompous assholes - it's just that he seems to actually know his shit. 12:40 <@Bahhumbug> Wait a minute. You're picking fucknut Larry "Let me rule the rule with retardedly overpriced and unpatched garbage" Ellison over the likes of Red Hat? 12:40 <@Bahhumbug> Are you on crack? 12:40 <@Dolemite> rule the rule? 12:40 <@Dolemite> heheheh 12:40 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, and he has as much chance of "crushing" redhat as I do of winning the lottery. Something I don't play. 12:40 <@Bahhumbug> Meh, s/rule the rule/rule the world/ 12:40 <@Bahhumbug> It's Monday. 12:41 < northrup> LOL 12:42 < northrup> Well, I don't know... I just see Redhat as the ones that started the charge on the "let's change for linux" in a way that completely hamstrung the open source momvement when it needed momentum the most. 12:43 <@Dolemite> Indian tech support call centers gotta eat, too, ya know 12:44 <@Dolemite> Indian -> DBA -> MySQL -> Oracle -> Ellison's Insatiable Appetite For The World 12:44 <@Dolemite> Damn, it all leads back to him 12:44 <@aestetix> uh 12:44 <@aestetix> how do you charge for linux? 12:44 <@aestetix> oh, change 12:45 <@Bahhumbug> Odd hearing you say that about the company that gives the most, bar none, back to open source. 12:45 < northrup> Bahhumbug: What, WHAT?! because they bought MySQL and SleepyCat? 12:47 < northrup> Oracle's love for Open Source is why we now have Jenkins after Oracle shat all over the sourcing of Hudson? 12:47 <@Bahhumbug> You don't for a second believe I meant oracrap I hope. 12:47 < northrup> OH - you mean Redhat? 12:48 <@Bahhumbug> If you have to think about whom I meant I'm sorry but I can't take this conversation seriously. 12:48 < northrup> Fine 12:49 <@aestetix> Do you mean Ubuntu? 12:49 < northrup> Redhat isn't a bad company, I was expressing my dislike for them in leading the way on charging for linux. 12:49 <@aestetix> Rdhat doesn't charge for linux. They charge for support. 12:50 < northrup> really, because you can't run their update manager if you don't have a support contact. 12:50 < northrup> and a frozen OS with no patching really doesn't do anyone all that much good. 12:51 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 12:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 12:51 <@aestetix> Doesn't redhat have ppas? 12:51 < northrup> I'm not saying it's bad for everyone, good grief, I'm just saying that I don't like their model and have chosen not to support them. 12:52 <@Bahhumbug> Then you must _really_ despise SuSE. 12:52 < northrup> charging for support is a great model, I love that the guys that do things like OpenNMS give the code away as OpenSource and charge for install and support. 12:52 <@Dolemite> Well they had RHEL for paid support, and Fedora-now-CentOS for the community 12:52 < northrup> Bahhumbug: we don't mention their name... 12:52 <@Bahhumbug> Fedora-now-CentOS? 12:52 <@Bahhumbug> That's insulting :/ 12:53 < northrup> Bahhumbug: I'm just kidding! 12:54 <@Bahhumbug> northrup: My fault on lack of attribution, I was still replying to Dolemite :) 12:55 <@Dolemite> meeting time 12:56 < northrup> I'm just waiting on comcast to show up and ((cough, cough)) fix my internet connection. 13:00 <@Bahhumbug> Lock the door when they get there :) 13:01 < northrup> Every time they come out, I cannot help but hearing Yakety Sax play as they bumble around.. 13:04 <@Bahhumbug> heh 13:07 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:12 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.149.109.21] has joined #se2600 13:13 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 13:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 13:18 -!- anarchival [~anatheum@unaffiliated/anarchival] has joined #se2600 13:19 -!- anarchival [~anatheum@unaffiliated/anarchival] has left #se2600 [] 13:37 -!- Iyeman [~Iyeman@74.51.97.254] has joined #se2600 13:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Iyeman] by ChanServ 14:26 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@129.59.115.4] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:47 -!- oddball_ [~oddball@c-98-193-232-23.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:53 <@aestetix> You know what makes people uncomfortable 14:53 <@aestetix> Talking about poop while you're in line for the bathroom 14:58 <@peacebyfire> I have a coworker that likes to bang against the wall while I'm pooping 14:58 <@peacebyfire> thats uncomfortable 14:58 <@peacebyfire> and rude 15:08 <@Bahhumbug> fling it at him; I suspect he'll stop. 15:16 -!- Dolemite [80db310d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.219.49.13] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:17 -!- northrup [~jjn@173-14-101-193-nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #se2600 ["Off to the NOC check on some dead gear... joy..."] 15:46 -!- critch1 [~Adium@70-88-0-209-nashville-tn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:03 -!- RangerZ [~mike@c-98-211-46-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:13 <@aestetix> ok 16:13 <@aestetix> kernel: [ 3794.531052] uwsgi[7195] trap invalid opcode ip:7f0bda2025fc sp:7ffffb6c3f70 error:0 in libm-2.15.so[7f0bda1c0000+f9000] 16:13 <@aestetix> any idea what would be causing that for uwsgi 16:13 <@aestetix> the logs say nothing 16:28 <@Bahhumbug> If it's repeatable with the same offsets it could be a bad on-disk image; if it's repeatable with different offsets it could be a bad on-disk image or also an indicator of bad memory. 16:33 <@Dagmar> hooo boy 16:33 <@Dagmar> "Did you know... that you can buy a butt on the internet?" 16:33 <@aestetix> a butt? 16:33 <@Dagmar> well, yes. 16:35 <@Dagmar> The guy is wanting to booby trap a beer cooler for a football game, because the homeless apparently like to look in the back of people's trucks and raid their coolers for beer 16:36 -!- ZC|Mobile [~weechat@ip70-189-239-148.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:36 <@Dagmar> I've already told him when he winds up on the ten o'clock news being investigated by the DHS for his improvised incindeary ass explosive, I *will* laugh all night long with a clear concience. 16:52 <@Dagmar> "Those darn muslim extremists have done gone and taken all the fun out of terrorism" 17:18 <@Shadow404> gahhh 17:19 <@Shadow404> the insurance plan our company has is so damn weird and confusing 17:19 <@Shadow404> a seperate card for medical/dental/prescriptions 18:01 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: thats not a bad technique (homeless raiding beer after the tailgate is over) 18:01 <@Shadow404> though, i think a better trap would be an ear piercing siren hooked up to the cooler 18:02 < RangerZ> Dagmar: look at what they did to "The Troubles" in northern ireland 18:02 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.149.109.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:04 < RangerZ> took all the fun out of it 18:10 -!- ZC|Mobile [~weechat@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has joined #se2600 18:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ZC|Mobile] by ChanServ 18:17 -!- critch [~Adium@c-68-54-232-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o critch] by ChanServ 18:18 -!- ZC|Mobile [~weechat@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:38 < RangerZ> http://tinyurl.com/razerzone-swiftypc free PC give-away 18:38 < GateKeeper> Title: Swifty PC Giveaway (at tinyurl.com) 18:38 < RangerZ> if anyone is curious 18:38 < RangerZ> its one of those "we want to be viral" competitions 18:39 -!- ZC|Mobile [~weechat@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has joined #se2600 18:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ZC|Mobile] by ChanServ 19:38 -!- anarchival [~anatheum@unaffiliated/anarchival] has joined #se2600 19:41 -!- critch [~Adium@c-68-54-232-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:43 -!- anarchival [~anatheum@unaffiliated/anarchival] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:45 <@aestetix> penis 19:52 <@Shadow404> vagina 19:53 -!- v4mp [~v4mp@unaffiliated/v4mp] has joined #se2600 20:00 -!- v4mp [~v4mp@unaffiliated/v4mp] has quit [Quit: 再见] 20:14 <@aestetix> ok 20:14 <@aestetix> does anyone know what defines an active google plus user? 20:15 <@Shadow404> any recent activity? 20:15 <@aestetix> I guess 20:15 <@aestetix> what does "recent" mean 20:15 <@aestetix> in the last month? 20:16 <@Shadow404> context? 20:17 <@aestetix> that's what I'm trying to figure out 20:21 <@aestetix> http://www.quora.com/Google+/How-does-Google+-define-a-monthly-active-user 20:21 < GateKeeper> Title: Google+: How does Google+ define a monthly active user? - Quora (at www.quora.com) 20:21 <@aestetix> that's the closets I can find 20:22 <@Bahhumbug> Was it a nice closet? 20:22 <@aestetix> lol 20:29 <@Shadow404> ah, ill never miss random aestetix Bahhumbug rambling 20:44 <@Dagmar> Damn Brian's just kinda clicking on things randomly over there tonight 20:45 <@Dagmar> Good thing I got Call Recording working properly again 20:45 <@Dagmar> If anyone gives us any shit about it, I have proof of both those phone conversations 20:46 * Dagmar isn't giving a single fuck 21:04 <@Dagmar> Sweet jesus it's WoW plugin updating time 21:06 <@aestetix> http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/meet-the-family-that-shuns-technologies-introduced-after-1986/279496/ 21:06 < GateKeeper> Title: Meet the Family That Shuns Technologies Introduced After 1986 - Megan Garber - The Atlantic (at www.theatlantic.com) 21:16 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-68-52-194-45.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 ["PING 1378865704"] 21:18 -!- critch [~Adium@c-68-54-232-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o critch] by ChanServ 21:36 <@Dagmar> Silly fuckers playing Amnesia with an HMD 21:36 <@Dagmar> How do people even get scared by a video game? 21:37 <@Dagmar> If anything, collectively we gamers reprent the type of person everything in every video game should instinctively feel panic as we approach 21:37 <@Dagmar> Survival horror games can't even bother me, because I know beyond the shadow of a doubt, that I am the most dangerous murderer in the room. 21:38 <@Dagmar> I've never seen zombies killing their friends just to see what they drop. 21:39 <@Dagmar> I've almost certainly wiped more villages than Joseph Kony, and someday, the Hague may have some questions for me to answer about what I've been doing to kobolds and drolvargs. 21:39 <@Dagmar> I've laid so many dead to rest I should have my own line of signature scythes 21:42 < Evilpig_> doh! 21:42 < Evilpig_> apparently I forgot to reinstall openvpn on my firewall 21:42 <@Dagmar> heh whoops 21:43 < Evilpig_> yeah I guess I should fix that when I get back 21:43 < Evilpig_> popped open my vpn client and it was bitching about the server just dropping the udp sessions. 21:44 < Evilpig_> oh well. luckily I can still tunnel if needed 21:44 <@Dagmar> Goddamn soooo many addons needed updating 21:45 < Evilpig_> I nearly updated wow, then went meh 21:45 <@Dagmar> I'm a little baffled. 5.4 supposedly dropped today, and yet the BattleNet launcher says its' downloading prerelease stuff 21:45 <@Dagmar> My guess is that it's grabbing things the client would otherwise download on the fly 21:45 < Evilpig_> 5.4 drops tomorrow 21:45 <@Dagmar> ...so... not goingt to fuck with it right now. 21:46 <@Dagmar> Really? 21:46 < Evilpig_> patch tuesday 21:46 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck 21:46 <@Dagmar> I can't calendar 21:46 <@Dagmar> I thought it was already Tuesday 21:46 < Evilpig_> nope, this was just monday 21:47 <@Dagmar> Oh wow the battlenet updater has built-in trolling 21:47 <@Dagmar> Bastards 21:48 <@Dagmar> Right click on the system tray icon, and it'll merrily show you D3, Starcraft, WoW, and Hearthstone... which I do not have a beta key for. 21:49 <@Dagmar> I saw that and was like "OOH! NEWNESS*click*" 21:49 <@Dagmar> Nothin'. 21:49 < Evilpig_> I heard they were doing that. I wanted to try hearthstone but after the latest blurb about it from penny arcade, not so sure now 21:50 < Evilpig_> they've dubbed it pay to win ware 21:50 <@Dagmar> It is a card collecting game. 21:50 <@Dagmar> I never noticed anyone being prevented from buying entire boxes of Magic cards 21:51 <@Dagmar> Now, if they let me pay a dollar to pants my opponent, for real. THEN it's pay to win on a new scale 21:52 < Evilpig_> I can see the win factor there, but at the same time you could get yourself lynched for subjecting the other people int he area to that 22:00 -!- critch [~Adium@c-68-54-232-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:03 < Evilpig_> there we go. at least my http(s) traffic is flowing through my tunnel 22:04 * Evilpig_ gags 22:04 < Evilpig_> 89yr old woman, 46yr old man. 22:24 < Evilpig_> think i'm gonna head out and get me a slurpee and figure out where I gotta go in the morning. 22:24 <@aestetix> uh 22:24 <@aestetix> what the hell? 22:25 < Evilpig_> that's just you aestetix . you're looking at a mirror 22:25 <@Dagmar> You know better than to ask that question, aestetix 22:26 < Evilpig_> ^ 22:27 <@Dagmar> POint the first: Do not ask the internet to show you thinkgs that will upset you. It will upset you. 22:27 <@Dagmar> Point the second: This one apparently upset Wilbur. 22:27 < Evilpig_> I was flipping channels and they had a how on about cougars 22:28 <@Dagmar> Ooohkay 22:28 <@Dagmar> That would explain some of the discussions today at the smoking area 22:28 < Evilpig_> These are the things you don't see without cable 22:28 <@Dagmar> More like these are the things I don't see because I only watch the stuff I record on the PVR 22:29 < Evilpig_> son of a bitch. I just realized I havne't eatne today 22:29 < Evilpig_> Dagmar: if you're just watching pvr stuff. drop the cable and just hit the torrents 22:29 <@Dagmar> Because Comcast is snooping on torrents. 22:30 <@Dagmar> Oddly, they don't monitor straight-up HTTP downloads tho 22:30 < Evilpig_> I have some encrypted private trackers if you want 22:30 < Evilpig_> I should have an invite left 22:30 <@aestetix> Evilpig_: is this your gf? http://i.imgur.com/el7rALN.jpg 22:31 <@Dagmar> The other fun fact being dropping cableTV wont' affect my bill very much 22:31 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm going to want Doctor Who in the fall. 22:31 < Evilpig_> dropped mine $90 22:31 < Evilpig_> I get doctor who 6 hours before it airs here 22:31 <@Dagmar> So do I. 22:31 <@Dagmar> :) 22:32 <@Dagmar> ...because mainly they don't monitor anything that's not NBC properites. 22:32 < Evilpig_> aestetix: that looks nothing like my hand 22:32 <@aestetix> wow 22:32 <@aestetix> http://imgur.com/BYqq9Wj King of the Hill meets tentacle porn 22:32 < GateKeeper> Title: imgur: the simple image sharer (at imgur.com) 22:33 < Evilpig_> that is a horrible photoshop 22:33 < Evilpig_> funny though 22:33 < Evilpig_> http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2322516 22:33 < GateKeeper> Title: Evaluating Graduated Response by Rebecca Giblin :: SSRN (at papers.ssrn.com) 22:41 < Evilpig_> alright bbl --- Log closed Tue Sep 10 00:00:02 2013