--- Log opened Tue Sep 03 00:00:53 2013 01:38 <@Bahhumbug> http://allthingsd.com/20130902/microsoft-to-buy-nokias-device-business-for-7-17-billion-euros/ 03:57 < aestetix_> vagina 04:31 <@Catonic> y0 04:33 < Evilpig_> hrmmm? 04:34 < Evilpig_> fuck. it's already 4:30? 04:35 <@Bahhumbug> Does that mean that this day will be over soon? 04:35 < Evilpig_> yup 04:36 < Evilpig_> at 7 I have to run across campus with rafiq and pull out a 4U server. not looking forward to it 04:37 <@Bahhumbug> The running or the pulling? 04:38 < Evilpig_> both 04:38 <@Bahhumbug> :) 04:46 <@Catonic> im looking to finishing breakfast and going for a run. 04:47 <@Catonic> my crazy white ass ran over from the Sheraton to Family Dollar 1.3 miles away and back. 04:48 <@Catonic> figured out where to get a lay, a rock, and sleep like a bum. 04:51 < Evilpig_> obby was clearly playing some game with aestetix_ . http://thedevilspanties.com/archives/9216 05:04 < aestetix_> what 05:05 < aestetix_> hahaha 05:05 < Evilpig_> is that a confirmation? 06:15 <@Catonic> LMFAO 06:16 <@Catonic> I heard a word I never want to hear again: "DragonWhore". 06:33 < aestetix_> What about DragonDong 06:46 -!- Dolemite [80db310d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.219.49.13] has joined #se2600 06:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 06:46 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:27 < Evilpig_> no 07:28 * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 07:29 <@Dolemite> Evilpig_: Are you working on the install script or do I need to? 08:01 < Evilpig_> it's done. but I told you that on the phone after you sent that 08:02 < Evilpig_> Do need to add a write permissions check ont he install.err file though 08:02 < Evilpig_> I noticed I had a few errors barfed into error_log when I had the mode set wrong on it 08:35 <@Dagmar> Well, I see looking throught my mail spool that not one single problem of significance was resolved by the bootlick crew 08:36 <@Dagmar> Something's been jacked with Listserv mails, and the people who've been pretending to be admins can't seem to find anything 08:36 <@Dagmar> Gosh 08:41 <@Bahhumbug> You sound surprised. 08:42 <@Catonic> people who have been pretending to be admins... 08:42 <@Dagmar> Oh I'm not surprised 08:42 <@Bahhumbug> I misplaced my tag. 08:42 <@Dagmar> It's going to be hilarious when I leave that department 08:42 < Evilpig_> I'm no bootlicker, motherfucker 08:43 <@Catonic> people suck. 08:43 <@Dolemite> It will be interesting when both Dagmar and Evilpig are gone 08:44 < Evilpig_> not like I do anytihng anyway 08:44 <@Catonic> it will degenerate into the suck that existed before. 08:45 <@Dolemite> Except that over the past several years, the level of expectation in service quality has increased 08:45 <@Dagmar> I may use the listserv problem as a test case... Just see how long they'll run in circles without verifying that the mails are actually reaching listserv 08:45 < Evilpig_> btw wish me luck. i've got an interview this afternoon at 5 08:45 <@Dolemite> So going back to what it was before will seem like double suckathon 08:46 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: With who? 08:46 < Evilpig_> tumblr 08:46 <@Dagmar> Cool 08:46 < Evilpig_> btw did chad wigal quit? 08:46 <@Dagmar> Yes. 08:46 < Evilpig_> thought so 08:46 <@Dagmar> I'm going to put my resume in for that EAI position toda 08:46 <@Dagmar> y 08:46 < Evilpig_> I saw the eai linux spot open so I was gonna see if he was still the hiring manager and he was gone. lol 08:46 <@Dolemite> Evilpig_: You should have sent them a resume with all of the e's removed. 08:46 <@Dolemite> Where did Wigal go? 08:46 <@Dagmar> Virginia 08:47 <@Dagmar> ...which is a bitch because he was a boss with a clue 08:47 <@Dolemite> Wow. What the hell is going on over in EAI? Wigal and K-Mac both gone. 08:47 <@Catonic> poorly made copies of copies... like cloning aged clones, until the DNA sufferes from uch great bitrot that nothing remains. 08:48 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: did you ever apply for that position that Kevin Hart keeps posting to the nlug list? 08:49 <@Bahhumbug> That seems a mid-level, at best, job. 08:49 <@Bahhumbug> Or he's purposely not listing the real requirements. 08:49 <@Corydon76-work> It starts at $70k 08:49 * Bahhumbug shrugs 08:50 <@Bahhumbug> Then I suspect that there are indeed requirements not being listed. 08:50 <@Bahhumbug> The only thing in that listing that stands out as anything beyond mid-level is splunk. 09:10 <@Catonic> what? 09:10 <@Catonic> how dumbed down has the field gotten? 09:10 <@Catonic> Is everyone apps these days? 09:10 <@Catonic> or just lazy? 09:11 <@Catonic> or is the lazy encouraging stupidity? 09:14 <@rattle> Wa? When did Splunk become a beyond mid-level tool? 09:39 < aestetix_> rattle: after they IPOed? 09:39 -!- aestetix_ is now known as aestetix 09:39 <@Catonic> after they added data mining? 09:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o aestetix] by ChanServ 09:43 <@aestetix> Catonic: hello there, Hunter S 09:44 <@aestetix> Digestion issues + monday morning at work = fun for everyone 09:45 <@aestetix> er, tuesday 09:57 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07 <@Catonic> aestetix: guten tag. Have you seen my attorney? 10:07 <@Catonic> aestetix: it does feel like a monday... 10:11 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@74.10.169.50] has joined #se2600 10:11 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@74.10.169.50] has quit [Changing host] 10:11 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 10:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 10:13 <@rattle> OSX and VMWare Fusion work well together addressing multiple VLANs. This means I can run run VMs on my workstation in different networks with different security contexts.. And this makes me happy. 10:20 <@Dagmar> At this point, any VM manager will do that, except for My First Virtualbox 10:24 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.150.48.249] has joined #se2600 10:26 <@Dagmar> Fucking ridiculous 10:27 <@Catonic> lol 10:28 <@Dagmar> I go tell the mail guys, "Hey I just opened port 25 on the listserv box to all our internal networks" 10:28 <@Dagmar> They get upset. 10:28 <@Dagmar> They changed the fucking MX to point at it on Thursday 10:29 <@Dagmar> I have two emails in my inbox from people who suddenly couldn't send their list mails as a resul 10:29 <@Dagmar> THERE'S A FUCKING MX RECORD POINTING AT THE GODDAMN HOST. 10:29 <@Dagmar> This is insane-o bullshit 10:33 <@Catonic> what? 10:33 <@Catonic> So they aren't using DNS? 10:33 <@Dagmar> I'mma climb down someone's throat and start forest fires today, I just know it 10:33 <@Dagmar> We *are* using DNS 10:33 <@Catonic> or is it a smarthost issue? 10:33 <@Dagmar> There's some bizarre smarthost routing going on somewhere 10:33 <@Dagmar> Something is *clearly* not working 10:33 <@Dagmar> Apparently, the idea is to keep it broken or something 10:34 <@Catonic> cat /etc/mail/s*cf | grep ^"DS" 10:34 <@Dagmar> Why would I want to do that? 10:34 <@Dagmar> My shit works. 10:36 <@Dagmar> The problem is that instead of the mail for this box routing through FOPE, they changed the MX so that internal-network hosts see it's MX 10:39 <@Dagmar> CLEARLY this broke some shit 10:39 <@Dagmar> Now... Seeing as they'll just fucking blame me when someone important gets mad about list mail not working, it behooves me to do more than sit with my thumbs up my ass 10:41 <@Dagmar> So... Knowing that sendmail on there is configured correctly and is not an open relay, I opened port 25 on the firewall to our network blocks 10:41 <@Dagmar> I am now monitoring the incoming SYNs 10:42 <@Dagmar> ....plus checking to see when those missing mails went through, if they get resent 10:42 <@Dagmar> But if I hear one more word from them about this like it's breaking their shit, I will be a dick about it 10:42 <@Dagmar> A *large* dick. 10:42 <@Dagmar> It's my fucking box. It's my fucking responsibility. 10:43 <@Dagmar> If it's NOT my fucking responsibility to fix, then they need to stop bothering me about the fucking thing when something isn't working right on it. 10:43 <@Dagmar> See what I'm getting at? 10:43 <@Dagmar> I am getting blame without the ability to fix things. 10:43 <@Dagmar> That will have me going over to HR to file a formal complaint. 10:47 < frsilent> btw still hiring in Tampa here =X one iOS dev & a project manager 10:48 <@rattle> On the topic of hiring.. CAP is still looking for an InfoSec Manager in DC.. http://www.americanprogress.org/about/jobs/67632/manager-information-security-and-systems/ 10:51 <@Dagmar> Not unless I'm allowed to kill people who use 'secr3t' as their password 10:52 <@Dagmar> I'm about to strangle an Exchange admin here just on the basis of functionality alone 10:53 <@Dagmar> Seriously tho, I'm updating my resume to put in for that other position in EAI right now 10:53 <@Dagmar> ...because I want OUT of this fucking monkey house. 11:08 <@Catonic> that's IT in general it seems 11:11 <@aestetix> I can't wait until the baby boomers die 11:11 < frsilent> lol 11:11 < frsilent> that's such a cruel statement but it made me giggle hard 11:12 <@Dagmar> Get me an asshole hunting permit and you won't have to wait much longer 11:15 <@aestetix> Well, the common characteristics of baby boomers: greed, authoritarianism, ignorance 11:22 <@Corydon76-work> Those are the common characteristics of the Tea Party, not the Baby Boomers 11:25 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.150.48.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:02 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: ultimately it doesn't matter what you call them, because they are in control of the 1% 13:03 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: I think you've got the control part reversed 13:03 <@aestetix> let me rephrase that 13:03 <@aestetix> they *are* the 1% 13:03 <@Corydon76-work> No, they aren't 13:04 <@Corydon76-work> Baby Boomers are the generation immediately preceding Generation X. Tea Party is an astroturf project of the Koch brothers 13:06 <@aestetix> Would you say it's accurate that the boomers live to work? 13:07 <@Corydon76-work> No, I really wouldn't 13:07 <@Corydon76-work> I'd say they work to live, or, as they are currently doing, to retire. 13:07 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.150.48.249] has joined #se2600 13:08 <@Corydon76-work> The retirement of the Baby Boomers is one of the reasons why the workforce is shrinking right now 13:11 <@aestetix> You'd think that if the workforce were shrinking, there would be jobs available. 13:12 <@Corydon76-work> There ARE jobs available 13:12 < frsilent> we can't find qualified candidates QQ 13:13 <@Corydon76-work> The question is never whether there are jobs available. The question is how desperate businesses are to fill those positions that they might offer more on-the-job training or not 13:14 <@Corydon76-work> Or if they're willing to pay enough to attract them away from other jobs that people are overqualified for, but for whom changing jobs is a hassle 13:15 <@Corydon76-work> I'm presently wondering if the position Kevin Hart put out there is going to offer me enough of a salary bump for me to consider applying for it. 13:16 <@Corydon76-work> It's already been open for 10 months 13:17 <@Corydon76-work> I had applied for it, but the guy gave me a job offer after I had already accepted my present position 13:20 <@aestetix> Ok so 13:20 <@aestetix> How did we get a huge workforce of shitty employees? 13:23 <@Corydon76-work> Quite simple, actually. Jobs evolve their requirements, for the simple fact of competition breeding advancement, and many employers don't see the value in a better educated workforce, so they don't invest in their employees. This, in turn, breeds a very mobile workforce, as the people who learn on their own, jump ship to pursue better opportunities. 13:23 <@Corydon76-work> Inertia is the biggest reason why people don't jump ship more often. 13:24 <@Corydon76-work> Devil you know vs. the devil you don't know. 13:26 <@Corydon76-work> Plus, I'm fairly anchored now with a house, a mortgage, and a bf whose grandparents are in their final years. Moving away would be a huge PITA. 13:26 <@Corydon76-work> For many others, moving their wife and kids would be a huge PITA. 13:27 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: it also kills any corporate loyalty 13:28 <@Corydon76-work> Loyalty in an At-Will state is simply impractical 13:28 <@aestetix> yep 13:28 <@Corydon76-work> Your loyalty is only as good as your paycheck 13:30 <@Corydon76-work> The keynote speaker at Nashville CoderFaire 2013 made this exact point: the company will lay you off in a heartbeat if it meant they could make more money 13:30 <@Dagmar> Sure enough my horrible renegage firewall change identified three different misconfigured hosts, one of which was relevant to the problem at hand 13:31 <@Corydon76-work> The only reason you're being paid is that they think you're more valuable with them. 13:33 <@Dagmar> The majority of hte "we can't find qualified candidates qq" comes down to one little detail they're leaving out 13:33 <@Dagmar> "We can't find qualified candidates [who will work for a pittance]" 13:34 <@Dagmar> Employers are getting stubborn and stupid by trying to cut costs by basically, not paying anyone more than the least they can get away with 13:34 <@Corydon76-work> Well, I'd modify that to, "we can't find qualified candidates who will work for what we're willing to offer" 13:34 <@Dagmar> Nevermind even attempting to be competitive 13:35 <@Dagmar> Like here... I'm expected to know everything (pretty much do) and fix everything and handle the workload of more than one person (technically 2.5-3 people now) 13:35 <@Dagmar> ...and for this they think it's fine to keep paying me a shade over $55l 13:35 <@Dagmar> er $55k 13:35 <@Dagmar> No. 13:35 <@Corydon76-work> If you're a hiring manager, and you can't find someone at the price point you're offering, it's clear that the price point you're offering is too low. 13:35 <@Dagmar> That's not even a little bit reasonable to expect. 13:36 <@Dagmar> So apparently the unix architect announced today that he's also leaving 13:36 <@Dagmar> ...and I've heard a rumor they've got a replacement for him already lined up/. 13:36 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: it's reasonable if it's the federal government, with awesome benefits, and pretty much impossible for them to fire you 13:37 <@Corydon76-work> but not for a private university 13:37 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-work: This isn't the federal gov't. 13:37 <@Corydon76-work> Exactly 13:37 <@Dagmar> So... They're doing this crap *and* they're going to apparently hire someone _over_ me... 13:37 <@Dagmar> HAHAHAH 13:44 <@Dagmar> I can mostly forgive the promoting someone over me while I'm currently in another departmnet 13:45 <@Dagmar> I'm not going to let that shit slide when my primary problem is that I'm being treated like a goddamn greenhorn with all the layers of managerial approval 13:45 <@Dagmar> FU-U-U-U-UCK a whole bunch of that 13:46 <@Dagmar> If I could build most of this shit from scratch in about two days' time, I do not need to have my every move double-checked by _someone who doesn't know as much_ 13:46 <@Dagmar> I want no more to do with this department as long as it's primary focus is on some manger-type feeling in control over a manager-type being able to say "All the machines are humming along happily" 13:58 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: and they wonder why the quality of work goes down. 13:59 <@aestetix> Treat your employees like robots, get crap products. And keep everyone nervous and on edge. 14:00 <@Dagmar> ...and then complain about a lack of innovation in the market. 14:00 <@aestetix> That too. 14:00 <@aestetix> Dagmar: or prosecute people who do innovate. 14:00 <@Dagmar> Or sue them 14:02 <@aestetix> I wonder how much longer Americans will tolerate it. 14:02 <@aestetix> Europeans seem a lot happier and more relaxed. 14:05 <@Corydon76-work> Americans will tolerate it until someone tells them not to, anymore 14:05 <@Corydon76-work> Most people don't understand that they have a choice. 14:06 <@Corydon76-work> and yes, there are certainly those who don't have a choice. 14:07 <@Corydon76-work> If you're stuck in a life that affords you no time to plan to do anything else, then until some change happens to you, you're not going to have the time to even consider a change 14:08 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: so..... anyone with student debt? 14:09 <@Corydon76-work> Anyone with crippling financial obligations, yes 14:09 <@aestetix> And anyone who's ever been sick? 14:09 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.150.48.249] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:09 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.150.48.249] has joined #se2600 14:09 <@Corydon76-work> Sickness or accident is usually the change that happens to them that allows them to consider something else 14:13 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: so how much longer do you think the country can survive like this? 14:13 <@Corydon76-work> Indefinitely, actually 14:14 <@aestetix> Wouldn't the birthrate eventually start to plummet? 14:14 <@Corydon76-work> You're assuming that it will eventually affect all businesses 14:15 <@Corydon76-work> You're mainly looking at businesses that are on the decline, and better businesses will come along and in time, wipe them out 14:15 <@Corydon76-work> Sometimes faster than other times 14:17 <@Corydon76-work> and sometimes businesses on the decline can see a turnaround. Look at IBM. 14:18 <@aestetix> This isn't about businesses, though, but a business model. 14:18 <@Corydon76-work> Microsoft is presently trying to engineer a turnaround, but it's basically a mortally wounded sea monster, floundering around, still in a death spiral, still able to crush other businesses while it dies 14:19 <@Corydon76-work> Right, and not all businesses are this bad 14:20 <@Dagmar> What kills me is that our new CIO is from IBM. 14:20 <@Corydon76-work> I suspect the Nokia division that they just bought will be spun off in a few years, with mainly the same structure it has now 14:20 <@Dagmar> He hasn't fired any of the jumped-up managers yet 14:20 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar: if he plays golf, it may be time for you to learn golf 14:21 <@Corydon76-work> Just make sure you let him win 14:21 <@Dagmar> A nice open field like that... I'd take my chances with a sniper rifle. 14:22 <@Dagmar> I'm just a little suprised he's allowed the silly-ass politicking to continue 14:23 <@Corydon76-work> What for? You could essentially write the restructure yourself and let him take the credit for making you a manager, with an appropriate salary to match. 14:23 <@Corydon76-work> Learn to play the game; it's the only way to survive 14:25 <@Corydon76-work> I learned a long time ago that it's better to give people the impression that you care about their opinion on completely worthless decisions than to let them trod all over you when it comes to basic functionality. 14:27 <@aestetix> Corydon76-work: that sounds akin to liking someone's baby picture on facebook 14:28 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: If playing politics ensures that people allow me to do my work without substantial interference, then playing politics is what I shall do. 14:30 <@Corydon76-work> I remember doing it at one company in large part with a mid-level manager from another department who was absolutely worthless when it came to getting things done. I went around him to get something done, and he was pissed when he found out, but I got my information, and he never held up my requests again. 14:31 <@Corydon76-work> I basically told my manager what he already knew: my request was in the guy's queue for a month, and it wasn't getting done, so I asked someone else. 14:33 <@aestetix> yep 14:34 <@Corydon76-work> When your manager's boss is the head of the company, and you can prove the request was in the queue for a month, not getting done, and when you ask someone else, it's done in half an hour, there's not much anyone can say. 14:36 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.150.48.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:53 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.144.82.239] has joined #se2600 14:59 -!- Dolemite [80db310d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.219.49.13] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:11 <@aestetix> penis 15:17 < frsilent> Dagmar: the disappointment with us is that we're offering a *very* competitive salary, just not finding people that can code worth a shit 15:17 < frsilent> sorry, just catching up on irc 15:23 < frsilent> (good) programmers it seems are very few and it seems that most of them already have their pair of golden handcuffs firmly attached 15:24 < frsilent> I'm not sure if that's an indicator that we need to raise our already generous offer or rather invest in someone less skilled/competent until they're good enough 15:26 < frsilent> but at that point they may just as easily jump ship as keep working here; it's tough convincing management that someone they hired at $65k/yr is now worth $90k/yr but you don't want to make that kind of initial investment of 90 for somebody who might turn out shitty 15:26 <@Corydon76-work> I wonder how many programmers don't particularly like the Tampa area. I've of the opinion that there are some areas that are just too hot and prone to flooding. 15:28 <@aestetix> Well 15:28 <@aestetix> I will never take a job in atlanta 15:28 <@Corydon76-work> My experience has been that programmers tend to be pasty white and hate the sun. 15:28 <@aestetix> Because fuck humidity :p 15:29 <@Corydon76-work> Sysadmins are a different story when it comes to tanning. 15:32 <@Corydon76-work> My brother is a historian. For the interview for his present job, he had to remove his shoes and socks and roll up his pants to wade through a flooded area to get to the building. 15:33 < frsilent> lol 15:34 < frsilent> well honestly the part I'm at isn't too bad, this is the absolute worst time of the year in regards to rain 15:34 < frsilent> but the rest of the year it's nice 15:35 <@Corydon76-work> I wasn't thinking so much about rain as much as 75 mph winds launching anything that isn't tied down against the side of your house. i.e. hurricanes. 15:36 < frsilent> ah gotcha 15:37 <@Corydon76-work> There really isn't any area of the country that isn't subject to some violent weather. Here, it's tornadoes. Out west, it's earthquakes and forest fires. Up north, it's snowstorms. 15:40 <@Corydon76-work> I'm not certain there's any area which is particularly good, but I'm reasonably satisfied with hunkering down in the face of tornadoes. 15:40 < frsilent> well there's plenty of developers on the west coast and Tampa is supposedly a huge area of technical innovation 15:41 < frsilent> so maybe we're just looking in the wrong places 15:41 <@Corydon76-work> Nashville was just recently publicized as being the #3 boom town in the US 15:42 <@Corydon76-work> Not sure how accurate that is 15:52 <@rattle> There was a study at one point that found the Northern Virginia area around Dulles airport was one of the least likely places for a weather or geological disaster to occur in the united states, which is one of the reasons there are so many datacenters in the Ashburn area (which also has a bigass aquifer under it. 16:11 <@Dagmar> I'm really considering just closing this person's goddamn ticket with the explanation "This is not an LDAP query" 16:28 <@Corydon76-work> Oh, good god. Someone is asking me to predict an NFL team which is likely to win in each of the upcoming 4 weeks. 16:29 <@Corydon76-work> Other than "not the Titans", I haven't the foggiest idea which team gives me the best chances. 16:43 -!- anarchival [~anatheum@unaffiliated/anarchival] has joined #se2600 16:43 -!- anarchival [~anatheum@unaffiliated/anarchival] has left #se2600 [] 16:45 < Evilpig_> well I have another interview coming up. might have to travel to jersey for it 16:47 <@rattle> Evilpig_: Wait.. Am I to read this as you might be moving to my ancestral homeland?! 16:47 <@rattle> Muhaha 16:47 < Evilpig_> yar 16:47 < Evilpig_> interviewing with tumblr 16:48 < Evilpig_> one of the things they require for this position is to sit on irc and answer questions within 10 minutes 16:48 < Evilpig_> "oh that's god, i'm on IRC all day anyway" lol 16:48 < Evilpig_> s/god/good/ 16:49 -!- mog [~mog@fsf/member/mog] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:49 <@aestetix> that's a better response than "what's irc?" 16:49 <@aestetix> Which they have probably gotten 16:49 <@rattle> Where in the great garden state are they located? 16:49 < Evilpig_> he wasn't prepared for "can I use irssi?" 16:49 < Evilpig_> rattle: he said central jersey 16:50 <@Corydon76-work> There's a huge benefit to using IRC. It's stable as hell, and there's a ton of scripts you can use with it 16:50 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-170-105.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:50 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-170-105.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:50 -!- mog [~mog@fsf/member/mog] has joined #se2600 16:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mog] by ChanServ 16:50 < Evilpig_> downside is they aren't offering relocation for this position but that isn't a huge caveat 16:50 <@aestetix> heh 16:50 <@aestetix> Evilpig_: did he know what irssi is? 16:50 <@aestetix> Because you're not a true geek unles you use screen+irssi 16:51 < Evilpig_> yeah he did 16:51 <@aestetix> nice 16:51 -!- mog [~mog@fsf/member/mog] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:51 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-170-105.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:51 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: guess I'm not a true geek, then, since I use Quassel 16:51 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-170-105.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:51 -!- mog [~mog@fsf/member/mog] has joined #se2600 16:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mog] by ChanServ 16:51 <@rattle> Interesting. I thought Tumblr was in NYC. 16:51 < Evilpig_> this is at their datacenter 16:51 <@rattle> Ah. 16:52 < frsilent> lol, huge reason I didn't accept a full-time at my old office? Had on of their fulltimes tell me using irc as an office hub was a terrible idea and would be too much work to configure 16:52 <@aestetix> what 16:52 < frsilent> so he was "going to veto it" until I talked to one of them that could actually code worth a damn 16:53 < frsilent> yeah...emotional, irrational, rude, and entitled 16:53 <@Corydon76-work> frsilent: Wow, someone had no idea how easy they are to configure 16:53 <@Corydon76-work> The only trouble really comes in if you're having to maintain a set of patches 16:54 < frsilent> this guy also could be quoted as saying things like "it's *impossible* to use more than 2 monitors with Linux" and "Ruby is a dialect of Lisp" 16:54 < frsilent> soooo...fuck that 16:54 < frsilent> lol 16:54 <@Corydon76-work> Wow 16:55 < Evilpig_> haha 16:55 < frsilent> talk about someone who thought his 2 years longer at a company was worth more than my being 5+ years older than him and a combat vet working on my *second* profession 16:55 <@Corydon76-work> The first, I might understand, if you've really never seen such an operation, but the second is beyond the pale 16:55 <@Corydon76-work> There is utterly no way that you could see Ruby as being even slightly Lisp-like. 16:56 <@aestetix> uhhhh 16:56 <@aestetix> frsilent: it's a pain to set up dual monitor.... if you don't know how xorg works 16:56 <@aestetix> although that's probably way easier now 16:56 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: it's about the same difficulty now 16:56 < frsilent> oh I completely understand...but why the fuck would you use the word "impossible" to describe something like that? 16:57 < frsilent> like...polarizing yourself so much is just asking to be proven wrong 16:57 <@Corydon76-work> The issue is in knowing how to address the various ports on the graphical card. Everything beyond that is utterly simple 16:58 <@Corydon76-work> A few distros have nice detection tools that help you automate the process, but the idiosyncrasies of graphics cards have sometimes made that a PITA 16:59 <@Corydon76-work> And the fact that there are possible screen holes when dealing with multiple monitors of varying sizes... 17:00 <@Corydon76-work> So the offsets can be a PITA to prevent that from occurring 17:12 <@aestetix> So 17:12 <@aestetix> I've come to the conclusion that the only way for feminism (the good kind) to succeed is to destroy the nuclear family 17:12 <@aestetix> And I'm ok with this 17:14 <@Corydon76-work> That won't ever happen. However, a mutation of the nuclear family is certainly possible. 17:14 <@aestetix> I'm simply saying... 17:14 <@Corydon76-work> You're suggesting destroying expectations? 17:15 <@aestetix> hehe 17:15 <@aestetix> Right now, couples get married, both have careers, and dump their kids off at the daycare. 17:15 <@aestetix> And then they scramble to get household stuff done on the weekends 17:15 <@aestetix> It's a miserable existence. 17:16 <@Corydon76-work> I think you're projecting a bit much 17:16 <@aestetix> Oh? 17:16 <@aestetix> I'm not projecting, I've just observed this. 17:16 <@Corydon76-work> It might seem miserable to you, but I think many people find great joy in it. 17:17 <@aestetix> Fair enough. 17:17 <@aestetix> How about: it's not a lifestyle I would choose 17:17 <@Corydon76-work> You're perceiving their complaints and extrapolating unhappiness 17:17 <@Corydon76-work> Sometimes, complaining is their release valve to get rid of the negative emotions and return to happiness 17:18 <@aestetix> What do you mean, their complaints? 17:18 <@Corydon76-work> I'd talk more, but I need to go take care of a client 17:18 <@aestetix> heh 17:18 <@aestetix> have fun 17:18 <@Corydon76-work> Not really. He's wanting me to fix his Tripwire install 17:18 < Evilpig_> woot! 17:18 < Evilpig_> Hey Wilbur! 17:18 < Evilpig_> You interviewed very well with Dan O'Hanlon on the phone and we'd love to invite you into our NYC office for a final interview. 17:19 <@aestetix> Evilpig_: is that for tumblr? 17:19 <@aestetix> wow, they're flying you to nyc? 17:19 <@Corydon76-work> Evilpig_: sweet 17:19 < Evilpig_> yeah that's for tumblr 17:19 < Evilpig_> they want to fly me out next week 17:20 < Evilpig_> just amazing that they're willing to fly me out after one little interview and yet I can't seem to budge at fucking vandy. 17:31 -!- x86Daddy [~z@32.144.82.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:35 < Evilpig_> oh Catonic you make me lol 17:50 <@Dagmar> That's because Vanderbilt is staffed with fucking idiots 17:50 <@Dagmar> It's exactly why I keep having to put on so many other goddamn hats to fix people's shit all day long 17:51 <@Dagmar> Hell, today I learned what the fuck the SUPER priv is for, why it's used, and how to avoid it 17:51 <@Dagmar> I still have no idea why the fuck I'm pinch-hitting as a goddamn DBA tho 18:02 <@Bahhumbug> Because they know you will would be my guess. 18:24 <@aestetix> vagina 18:56 -!- sdodson_ [~sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:59 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has joined #se2600 18:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 19:03 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:06 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@204.13.164.133] has joined #se2600 19:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 19:13 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@204.13.164.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:15 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@204.13.164.133] has joined #se2600 19:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 19:21 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@204.13.164.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:23 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@204.13.164.133] has joined #se2600 19:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 19:30 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@204.13.164.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:31 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has joined #se2600 19:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 19:35 < Evilpig_> LOL. Only where i'm from could this happen. http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Cemetery-could-be-on-new-community-center-property-crews-working-carefully-222235621.html 19:35 < GateKeeper> Title: Cemetery could be on new community center property; crews working carefully (at www.wpsdlocal6.com) 19:36 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:42 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has joined #se2600 19:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 19:47 < Evilpig_> http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185638_10100604144616528_420906455_n.jpg WTF? 20:19 -!- anarchival [~anatheum@unaffiliated/anarchival] has joined #se2600 20:22 -!- anarchival [~anatheum@unaffiliated/anarchival] has quit [Client Quit] 21:08 <@Dagmar> Looks like they're releasing deets on EQNext 21:08 <@Dagmar> Lionbears, saberbears, and two-heded jackal-hawks! awesome! 21:08 <@Dagmar> They've even got dinosaurs! 21:16 < Evilpig_> haha. I had to look at that twice 21:17 <@Dagmar> An even bigger WTF on my G+ feed. 21:17 <@Dagmar> I saw a *crashed* Linux box 21:19 < Evilpig_> crashed or rebooting? 21:19 <@Dagmar> Just plain crashed 21:19 <@Dagmar> Looked like Debian, too 21:57 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-71-79-168-107.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 22:26 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-71-79-168-107.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:58 < Evilpig_> !weather hell 23:58 < Evilpig_> Can I get a weather check on hell? Mongo is here before midnight --- Log closed Wed Sep 04 00:00:55 2013