--- Log opened Sun Aug 25 00:00:44 2013 00:07 -!- spaceB0x [~spaceB0x@c-68-52-126-92.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:16 -!- jonnyx [~jonnyx@adsl-74-179-212-24.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 00:18 -!- jonny_X [~jonnyx@adsl-74-179-241-56.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:21 -!- jonny_X [~jonnyx@adsl-74-179-227-81.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 00:23 -!- jonnyx [~jonnyx@adsl-74-179-212-24.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:34 -!- northrup [~jjn@173-14-101-193-nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 00:47 < aestetix> so 00:48 < aestetix> anyone know how to disable netflix censorship? 00:49 < northrup> in what form are you talking about? 00:50 < aestetix> As in, netflix is blocking out when someone says "fuck", and blurring body parts 00:50 < aestetix> I'm down with them having some kind of censorship option, provided it can be disabled. 00:50 < aestetix> And I don't see a way to disable it. 00:52 < northrup> as a guy who used to help produce media for tv, broadcast, and redistribution I can pretty much promise you that it's not on Netflix end 00:52 < northrup> but whoever they licensed the content from 00:53 < aestetix> Do those places realize that the response is going to be to torrent the uncensored version? 00:53 < northrup> that level of on-the-fly censorship just doesn't happen unless it gets encoded into the source content up-stream 00:53 < northrup> yeah, that's the sad part about it. I agree with you 00:53 * aestetix sighs 00:53 < aestetix> I mean, netflix should just have two copies. One that's censored, and one taht isn't. 00:54 < aestetix> Although censoring the show I'm watching (Breaking Bad) is particularly meaningless 00:54 < northrup> Netflix, IMHO, is struggling to manage it's content libraries and licenses 00:54 < aestetix> Blurring tittes and blocking the word "fuck" while happily showing guys getting blown up and cooking crystal meth.... yep 00:55 < aestetix> Just saying :) 00:55 < northrup> You're also talking about a company that couldn't agree on a price with Starz so they saw over HALF of their streaming library yanked from them. 00:55 < aestetix> I'm not sure of any parents who are going to watch breaking bad with their kids and will get offended by seeing a pair of titties 00:55 < northrup> Starz, over the past several years, decided to make money by buying the rights to a great many tv shows, movies, and events. 00:55 < aestetix> ugh 00:56 < northrup> yeah 00:56 < aestetix> I guess those parents will be proud that their kids don't know the word "fuck" but happily know how to curb someone or how to smoke meth 00:56 < northrup> I'd love to get all of my content in a way that allows the people who produce it to recieve revenue, but the fucking middle men in the middle make it almost impossible 00:57 < northrup> because I can't get my content, the way I want it, when I want it 00:58 < aestetix> right 00:59 < aestetix> I mean, feel free to point out the logic flaws in my argument here :p 00:59 < aestetix> It's beyond whether I want censorship or not. It's just such a total display of hypocrisy. 00:59 < northrup> no, no - I can't understand how they want to censor breaking bad 01:16 < RangerZ> ohh I can, but that requires religious people putting their views on the '7 words' and 'sexuality' into public content 01:16 < RangerZ> and we all know that every religion refuses to do that, so that way we have a functional society 01:16 < northrup> Heh... "welcome to the bible belt" 01:16 < RangerZ> so THAT can't be the problem 01:26 < Evilpig_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1YWWTjDmZQ 01:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Welcome to DeviantArt! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 01:46 < RangerZ> Evilpig_: thats pretty funny 01:47 < RangerZ> not as funny as the script I wrote to randomly make sprintf() calls in openDMIC ... that I gave to someone.. I'm not saying who... 01:48 < RangerZ> or it could be as good as the mongoDB production code that only logs 10% of errors 01:48 < RangerZ> ...yes... production code... uses math.random() to get a 10% random chance to log the value... 01:49 < Evilpig_> please. like he needs a script to make printf statements. 02:20 < aestetix> vagina 02:43 < Evilpig_> http://i.imgur.com/padrhiD.jpg 03:35 < Evilpig_> Dagmar: please tell me you're awake 03:46 < RangerZ> nah 03:46 < RangerZ> he beat Saint's Row 4 03:47 < RangerZ> and VandyIT loves his work to bleed into his "off" time 03:57 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Finally the damn thing started up again. That mess should clear 03:59 < Evilpig_> k 03:59 < Evilpig_> sorry that I had to call and wake you 04:21 < RangerZ> Dagmar: don't know if you'd care at all or not, but Saint's Row 3 for PS3 is free now with Playstation + (if you have either of those and would like a version not PC based *shrugs* probably won't care, but thought it was interesting, so I grabbed it for the hell of it 04:39 < aestetix> man 04:39 < aestetix> breaking bad has.... 04:39 < aestetix> I am now fully convinced the war on drugs needs to end 04:39 < Evilpig_> aestetix: most people would agree with you 04:40 < aestetix> The rest are idiots. 04:48 -!- rattleX [~rattleXx@74.10.169.2] has joined #se2600 04:48 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:13 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-71-79-168-107.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 05:29 <@Bahhumbug> You weren't convinced before? 05:35 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: I was, but BB is a great way to demonstrate that 06:07 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-71-79-168-107.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:44 < aestetix> no 06:44 < aestetix> I worked at an OB/GYN clinic for 7 years. One day a girl called and said she had a broken shot glass up her vagina. Upon asking how it got there, she said she was using it as birth control. Thankfully it worked because no one that stupid should have children. 06:44 < aestetix> that's impressively stupid 06:56 < aestetix> also, vagina 08:29 -!- peacebyfire [~peacebyfi@hercules.bytesized-hosting.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:29 -!- peacebyfire [~peacebyfi@hercules.bytesized-hosting.com] has joined #se2600 08:31 -!- jonnyx [~jonnyx@adsl-74-179-212-106.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 08:31 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-71-79-168-107.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 08:31 -!- jonny_X [~jonnyx@adsl-74-179-227-81.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:44 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: yeah, no guy wants broken glass near his dick 08:45 <@Corydon76-work> but I'm sure it sounded like a good idea when she was drunk 08:55 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@74.194.15.210] has joined #se2600 08:56 -!- Synx|hm is now known as Guest46613 08:58 -!- Synx|hm_ [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:40 < RangerZ> http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/57/31/eac27e38b82a4d073273f43627ca3580.jpg and you all wonder why I'm going for my PhD 10:22 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-71-79-168-107.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:28 -!- spaceB0x [~spaceB0x@c-68-52-126-92.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:43 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNt8UDj2aWE ...no one is surprised about this... lol 13:43 < GateKeeper> Title: LOVEINT - NSA Admits to Spying on Love Interests - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 14:21 <@Shadow404> Kennedy's opening statement - 1960 debate 14:21 <@Shadow404> what would of happened to apollo if nixon won the debate in 1960? 14:21 <@Shadow404> how different would our world be? 15:10 < RangerZ> imagine if bush hadn't been given the presidency by FL Lt. Gov. 15:10 < RangerZ> lots of points like that in history 15:11 < RangerZ> or if Christ had written his own book 15:11 <@Corydon76-work> Or if his disciples had actually written the Gospels 15:12 <@Corydon76-work> Instead of having been attributed to them, 250 years after their deaths 15:12 <@Bahhumbug> Imagine if Christ was real. 15:12 < RangerZ> he was a real human being 15:13 < RangerZ> there are offhand references to him in a couple REAL historical documents 15:13 <@Corydon76-work> RangerZ: actually, there's doubt as to whether he was "a" real human being 15:13 < RangerZ> yeah I know, i've read both sides 15:13 <@Bahhumbug> Until you can go back in time and see for yourself it's nothing more than science fiction. 15:13 <@Corydon76-work> The stories that have been written suggest that he is a compendium of multiple people 15:13 <@Bahhumbug> Without the science. 15:14 < RangerZ> Corydon76-work: 'godman who was crusified, dead three days, 2 women found him, was called the lamb' etc 15:14 < RangerZ> describes like 30 people in that era 15:14 < RangerZ> Horis in particular from Egypt 15:15 < RangerZ> performed miracles, etc 15:15 <@Bahhumbug> Horus. 15:15 < RangerZ> ugh, yeah, lol 15:15 < RangerZ> watching raza aslan talk about it is a really interesting thing 15:15 <@Corydon76-work> Given that Crucifixion was reserved for people who tried to overthrow the Roman Empire, it's unlikely the miracle worker was the one who was crucified 15:16 <@Corydon76-work> and the birth story had been around for at least 300 years before the time that he was alleged to have been born 15:16 < RangerZ> basically the books were meant to "reveal truth, not fact" and the way he explains it is very interesting 15:16 < RangerZ> that people didn't think the bible was suppose to tell a historical document until the scientfic revolution 15:17 < RangerZ> as a counter to science, they started a literal interpretation 15:17 <@Corydon76-work> Well, that the scholars didn't believe that is one thing, but the people are quite another 15:18 <@Corydon76-work> I have little doubt that small town priests never quite got around to instructing people on how to interpret the gospels 15:18 <@Shadow404> (watching and enjoying the convo) 15:19 <@Corydon76-work> and that's generally how the literal interpretations got started. It wasn't really until the advent of layman preachers, such as in the Baptist Church, that this became a problem 15:19 < RangerZ> << having just got rid of cable TV, and hooked up an antenna my mom got me for my HDTV (b/c I was fine with no tv at all, lol) I realize how much of Nashville's OTA tv is religous 15:20 < RangerZ> I always forget that so many people think that the world is about to end 15:20 <@Corydon76-work> Yep 15:20 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: yeah, i got chanel 56-1,2,3,4,5 and 6 15:20 <@Shadow404> jeeez 15:20 <@Shadow404> all relegious 15:20 <@Corydon76-work> and when you realize that, it's clear why they don't want to do anything about global warming. 15:20 <@Corydon76-work> They don't want to forestall the Apocalypse 15:25 <@Corydon76-work> I am perpetually annoyed by the amount of harm done in the name of religion 15:27 <@Corydon76-work> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgc0Y-f8r24 15:27 < GateKeeper> Title: Why I Hate The Prosperity Gospel - John Piper - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 15:54 < RangerZ> THANK GOD for chrome, lol 15:55 < RangerZ> 4 new crapware extensions just got added to it... and chrome notified me so I could remove them 15:55 < RangerZ> .... now... to figure out where they came from... 15:55 < RangerZ> plus time to reformat.. :/ 16:00 < RangerZ> you know what sucks... I have an AM3 socket Motherboard/processor 16:01 < RangerZ> and I basically can't upgrade, b/c they went to AM3+ right after this 16:01 < RangerZ> Better than Intel's dozen socket pin counts in between AMD's 2, lol... but still kinda sucks 16:11 <@Dagmar> I really doubt you can't upgrade 16:12 < RangerZ> I have the Phenom II X4 955 16:12 < RangerZ> best AM3 chip made (that I've found) 16:13 < RangerZ> any better is all AM3+ 16:14 <@Dagmar> Ahhh... I see now 16:15 <@Dagmar> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?259740-AM3-is-backward-compatible-with-the-AM3-but-Bulldozer-is-for-AM3-only 16:15 < GateKeeper> Title: AM3+ is backward compatible with the AM3, but Bulldozer is for AM3+ only (at www.xtremesystems.org) 16:16 < RangerZ> yeah 16:17 < RangerZ> I wouldn't even mind if I put a new AM3+ chip in it and it worked 'gimped' until I got a AM3+ MOBO, but can't 16:17 <@Dagmar> Oh well. Unlike Intel, we have decent competition among motherboard manufactrers at last 16:17 < RangerZ> yeah 16:17 < RangerZ> I'm still usign an old 4870 16:17 < RangerZ> amd 4870 GPU * , so thats really what I need to upgrade first 16:18 < RangerZ> quadcore 3.2 is still 'good' enough for everything but crysis 3 games 16:18 < RangerZ> cryengine* 3 16:18 < RangerZ> which ...unfortunately... the hangar module for Star Citizen comes out thursday 16:18 < RangerZ> and min. reqs. are above my machine... LOL 16:19 < RangerZ> Honestly first time since my mom bought me my first computer that ...that... has happened 16:19 <@Dagmar> Such is the nature of 0-day gaming 16:19 < RangerZ> yeah 16:20 <@Dagmar> You should try playing Bethesda titles 16:21 < RangerZ> yeah, I'm not a fan of their games surprisingly 16:21 < RangerZ> including elder scrolls... I'm more of a JRPG fan than a 'western' RPG fan 16:22 < RangerZ> better stories/experiences most of the time to me, but I appreciate the scale/epicness/graphics of them, thats for SURE 16:22 <@Dagmar> On release day the only people who can play them with a fluid frame rate are spoiled rich kids 16:23 < RangerZ> yeah 16:24 < RangerZ> jesus... i forgot just what was in my system... 1333 ram 16:24 < RangerZ> yeah... I could definitely upgrade, lol 16:25 <@Dagmar> The good news is that you can turn the old CPU over into a fine VM host 16:25 < RangerZ> yeah, pretty much 16:26 < RangerZ> IF... I ever get the time to touch it, this semester is going to kick my ass 16:26 < RangerZ> all fucking undergrad classes, so tons of busy work 16:26 < RangerZ> i thought my undergrad was bad for not offering classes 17:34 -!- northrup [~jjn@173-14-101-193-nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:20 < aestetix> http://www.knowthenetwork.com/2005/08/rackspacecom-illegally-gave-indymedia-servers-to-fbi/ 18:35 <@Corydon76-work> aestetix: something new on that front? 18:36 <@Corydon76-work> Both the page and the URL say 2005, so old news 18:36 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: yes 18:36 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/janehamsher 18:36 < GateKeeper> Title: Jane Hamsher (janehamsher) on Twitter (at twitter.com) 18:36 < aestetix> read her twitter 18:49 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-71-79-168-107.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 20:04 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-71-79-168-107.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:16 <@Dagmar> What's her connection to Rackspace? 20:18 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, indymedia 20:19 <@Dagmar> I have a gruge against the IL folks in that which I intend to exercise 20:19 <@eryc> what is FDL? 20:19 <@sdodson> what is FDL? 20:20 * sdodson face palms having echo'd eryc 20:20 <@eryc> good one bro 20:20 * eryc puts on angry eyebrows 20:20 <@eryc> now we twins! 20:20 <@sdodson> eryc: cool cool 20:21 <@Dagmar> Man, it would be great if there were a thing people could use to perform automated searches of the internet 20:21 <@eryc> !google FDL 20:21 <@eryc> ~google FDL 20:21 <@eryc> how do you work this shit 20:21 < aestetix> google is having issues again 20:21 < aestetix> FDL = firedogake 20:21 <@Dagmar> Add the woman's name to the search 20:21 < aestetix> firdoglake 20:21 <@sdodson> what's firdoglake? 20:21 <@eryc> fur dog bukakke 20:22 <@eryc> got it 20:22 < aestetix> sdodson: an indy news site that's been covering the manning trial really heavily 20:22 <@sdodson> eryc: not surprised aestetix would be into that sort of stuff 20:23 <@sdodson> pushed out some caching infrastructure for a site i support, site still slow as balls 20:24 <@eryc> why didnt we execute that traitor anyway 20:24 <@sdodson> perhaps now they'll look into why a page load requires 11k MySQL calls. 20:24 < aestetix> "that sort of stuff"? 20:24 <@sdodson> aestetix: 21:21 <@eryc> fur dog bukakke 20:24 < aestetix> sdodson: I'm going to guess a for loop 20:24 < aestetix> rephrse: many many for loops 20:24 * sdodson suspects aestetix may be ignoring eryc 20:24 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-71-79-168-107.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 20:25 < aestetix> nope 20:25 <@sdodson> yeah, a lot of their page loads iterate over the same query hundreds of times 20:25 < aestetix> I was just not paying attention 20:25 < aestetix> yep that stuff doesn't scale 20:25 <@Dagmar> You should institute a regimen of weekly developer beatings. 20:25 <@eryc> mysql doesnt scale 20:25 < aestetix> eryc: tell me about it 20:25 <@sdodson> "hey site is slow." "not an infrastructure problem, plz2bhaving developers look" "developers busy on features, what can infra teams do for us?" "Prove it's a developer problem, brb" 20:26 * aestetix is stuck working with a mysql database that's now 150 gigs in size 20:26 <@Dagmar> That'll scale fine 20:26 <@Dagmar> Just throw >64Gb of RAM at it 20:26 <@sdodson> mysql is averaging like 12ms response time for 98% of the queries 20:26 < aestetix> sigh 20:26 <@eryc> mysql sucks at caching 20:26 <@eryc> its horrible at it 20:26 <@sdodson> there's some outliers that take 5+ seconds but they're just ugly queries 20:26 <@eryc> you have to use memcached 20:26 <@Dagmar> Bonus speed if you can get 128Gb of RAM on it 20:26 < aestetix> Dagmar: for both the master and the slave? :p 20:27 <@sdodson> we just pushed out memcached, reduced the queries to mysql by like 10% 20:27 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Shore. Don't forget the dedicated ten giggle sync channel 20:27 < aestetix> heh 20:27 <@sdodson> the whole DB and indexes fit in memory, scaling the hardware isn't an issue 20:27 <@eryc> if you're dataset is 1GB and you have 512GB of ram, mysql will still go to disk every time 20:27 <@sdodson> nah 20:27 < aestetix> actually 20:28 < aestetix> what I've been doing lately is repairing the schema 20:28 <@sdodson> We do need to enable the query cache as there's a lot of query repetition 20:28 <@Dagmar> The thing that projects like memcache and nginx fail to mention is that the majority of the time, their project is only useful if your developers are IGNORANT ASSHOLES 20:28 <@Dagmar> s/are/aren't/ 20:28 <@sdodson> memcache is a scaling tool 20:28 < aestetix> because we have so many things.... like a field where there is a 255 varchar for state, and only two characters are ever used 20:28 <@sdodson> this site is slow with 1 user 20:28 <@eryc> sdodson: that was my experience, i gave it shittons of cache and upped every memory limit and it still was dogballs slow 20:28 <@Dagmar> We have people who install simplepie and don't bother creating a cache directory 20:29 <@eryc> so i just turned it all back off and used memcache 20:29 < aestetix> eryc: what about CPU usage? 20:29 <@eryc> i'll never use mysql for another project 20:29 <@sdodson> eryc: hmm, it's tuned alright other than not having a query cache that's sized appropriately 20:29 <@Dagmar> Also, people who use wget to pull other documents to use in part of a Wordpress theme 20:29 <@sdodson> many of their queries are generating on disk tmp tables which means they're selecting > 256mb of data 20:29 <@Dagmar> ...in their Wordpress theme 20:29 < aestetix> sdodson: god I hate the disk tmp tables 20:29 <@eryc> aestetix: this was with 1 client, me, testing 20:29 < aestetix> those are the bane of my existence right now 20:30 <@Dagmar> Because, you know, ther'es nothing that says "efficiency" like recursively generating pageviews to yourself 20:30 <@eryc> cpu usage non-existant 20:30 <@sdodson> I'm going to throw 512MB of query cache and up the in memory temp table size to 1GB 20:31 <@sdodson> there are about 20 queries that happen on every page load where they can be cached 100% so that'll shave like 100ms off 20:31 < aestetix> So 20:31 < aestetix> should I bring some n-bombs to phreaknic 20:31 < aestetix> they are all over the bay area right now 20:32 < aestetix> sdodson: memcached, also redis is useful 20:32 <@sdodson> i'm using memcache, the stuff they're asking for isn't being put in memcache 20:33 <@sdodson> there's like 30mb of data in memcache after 24 hours 20:34 <@sdodson> 24M mysql queries and about 27M memcache calls over the past 24 hours 20:35 <@sdodson> memcache is about 10x faster than mysql for us, so around 1ms versus 10ms 20:43 <@eryc> http://i.imgur.com/cE758M8.jpg 20:44 -!- sync350 [~sync@adsl-74-190-99-232.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sync350] by ChanServ 21:00 < aestetix> aaand now I wait for breaking bad to be uploaded to bittorrent 21:25 < aestetix> so uh 21:25 < aestetix> not that I condone piracy 21:25 < aestetix> but 21:25 < aestetix> http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8849629/Breaking.Bad.S05E11.720p.HDTV.x264-IMMERSE%5Brartv%5D 21:25 < GateKeeper> Title: Breaking.Bad.S05E11.720p.HDTV.x264-IMMERSE[rartv] (download torrent) - TPB (at thepiratebay.sx) 21:30 * eryc reports aestetix to the BBB 21:32 -!- RangerZ1 [~mwalker@c-98-211-46-74.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:34 <@Dagmar> Yep. Housing market is still terrible 21:34 <@Dagmar> Apparently I have saved enough cash to buy a condo 21:34 < RangerZ1> http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/13/08/25/2254208/google-breaks-chromecasts-ability-to-play-local-content well thats shitty 21:34 < GateKeeper> Title: Google Breaks ChromeCast's Ability To Play Local Content - Slashdot (at entertainment.slashdot.org) 21:34 < RangerZ1> I was actually debating on getting one of these 21:35 < aestetix> Dagmar: in detroit? 21:35 <@eryc> chromecast is stupid anyway 21:35 <@eryc> people are idiots 21:35 < RangerZ1> not really 21:36 <@eryc> IDIOTS 21:36 < RangerZ1> well yes, they are, but chromecast itself 'wasnt' stupid 21:36 < RangerZ1> now... moreso 21:36 < aestetix> oh wiat 21:36 < aestetix> chromecast is that little toy apple tv thing right? 21:37 < RangerZ1> yeah, sorta 21:37 < RangerZ1> 35$ to stream HD signal over HDMI 21:37 < RangerZ1> wirelessly 21:37 < RangerZ1> now... just through google services (maybe others?) 21:38 < aestetix> ..... wow 21:38 < aestetix> fuck Google 21:38 < Evilpig_> wear a rubber, google's bound to have a ton of viruses 21:39 < RangerZ1> we all know it wasn't them who cares 21:39 < RangerZ1> its the movie studios, etc 21:39 < RangerZ1> probably had to agree to do this to even be "allowed" to do it from the start 21:39 < RangerZ1> which just pisses me off at both 21:39 < aestetix> yep 21:40 < aestetix> the same movie studios who have put out quite the shitshow of a terrible movie summer this year? 21:40 <@eryc> if you're not paying enough for the product, the product is you 21:40 < aestetix> eryc: yep! that's why I have started making an active effort to pay for things 21:40 < aestetix> like email hosting, etc 21:42 < aestetix> Although it does seem like things are shifting to favor large corporations lately 21:43 < RangerZ1> 90% of the gains after the crash, went to the top 1% 21:43 < RangerZ1> .... yeah... 'seems' like it 21:43 < RangerZ1> lol 21:43 < aestetix> heh yeah 21:43 <@eryc> thats just a theory 21:44 < aestetix> you mean the bailouts that got earmarked for bonuses for the CEOs? 21:44 < RangerZ1> no 21:45 < RangerZ1> there are a bunch of facts like that... that are just silly 21:45 <@eryc> thats just compensation for everyone else trying to punish the rich 21:45 < RangerZ1> like blacks lost like 70% of their 'wealth' in the crash 21:45 < RangerZ1> b/c a lot had it entirely in houses, that got forclosed on 21:45 < aestetix> ugh 21:46 < RangerZ1> I'm actually doing an assignment right now... due in 2.25 hr, LOL 21:46 < RangerZ1> otherwise I'd find links, but yeah... 21:46 < aestetix> on this? 21:46 < aestetix> oh 21:46 < RangerZ1> Personally, I think the problem is the stock market 21:46 < RangerZ1> stocks shouldn't be allowed to be traded more than once a day 21:47 < RangerZ1> people are not 'investing' they are pulling money out of pentions, etc... to make themselves rich 21:47 < aestetix> why not just require a person to sign off on every stock trade :p 21:47 < aestetix> since at the moment I think a large amount of trading is done by computers 21:48 < RangerZ1> the new 3rd and 4th largest indexes are DESIGNED for HST 21:48 -!- jonny_X [~jonnyx@adsl-74-179-227-221.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 21:48 < aestetix> yep 21:49 <@eryc> that seems to defeat the point of the concept of owning stock in a company 21:49 <@eryc> just a theory, mind you 21:50 < RangerZ1> yeah 21:50 <@eryc> do the computers get to vote? 21:50 -!- jonnyx [~jonnyx@adsl-74-179-212-106.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:50 < RangerZ1> in ohio..... there is evidence they did.... 21:50 < RangerZ1> Diebold 21:50 <@eryc> heh 21:50 < aestetix> hahaah 21:50 < RangerZ1> so much so... that people went to jail for the 2004 election 21:50 < aestetix> so 21:51 < aestetix> while I realize we had election fraud before computers 21:51 < RangerZ1> rather than talk about what they did to/with the voting machines 21:51 < aestetix> it does seem like the computers help 21:53 <@eryc> computers make the world go round 21:53 < aestetix> eryc: just think about it 21:53 < aestetix> if computers didn't exist 21:53 < aestetix> you might have never seen goatse 21:54 <@eryc> my life would be so different 21:54 < RangerZ> i'd be a civil engineer 21:54 <@eryc> i'd be a dishwasher 21:54 <@eryc> thanks to goatse, i've accomplished some things in life 21:54 <@eryc> goatse saved me 21:55 <@eryc> thanks goatse! 21:55 <@eryc> how has goatse touched you? 21:55 < aestetix> goatse opened up my world 21:55 <@eryc> did it make you want to grab life by the anus? 22:00 < RangerZ> with both hands 22:03 -!- Mirage [~mirage@162-200-78-96.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 22:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 22:06 <@Dickie> registered for phreaknic 22:06 <@Dickie> everyone get a pillow and practice biting it 22:06 <@Mirage> Everyone taking room rotations with Corydon? 22:07 <@Dickie> whoa 22:17 -!- jonny_X [~jonnyx@adsl-74-179-227-221.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18 -!- jonnyx [~jonnyx@adsl-74-179-237-32.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 22:28 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-71-79-168-107.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:39 <@Dagmar> Mirage: I got that dyn list thing sorted. The lists which were defined but not being used were what was throwing me off track 22:47 -!- sync350 [~sync@adsl-74-190-99-232.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: wtfsleepomg] 22:51 < Evilpig_> Mirage: how's tx? 23:04 < aestetix> penis --- Log closed Mon Aug 26 00:00:15 2013