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02:31 < RangerZ> holy hell... Evilpig_ this needs to change to allow longer passwords
02:31 < RangerZ> http://pastebin.com/b9xvDN78
02:31 < GateKeeper> Title: VU ePassword - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
02:32 < RangerZ> or you know... encryption keys.... *gasp*
02:32 < Evilpig_> I have no control over epassword
02:32 < Evilpig_> I can tell you that the length has to do with how many systems that shit syncs to
02:33 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: If Rube Goldberg saw the map they use for that system, he would be shocked
02:33 <@Dagmar> And I'll be honest
02:34 < RangerZ> i belive it
02:34 <@Dagmar> I occasionally have to go audit the logs on the wordpress servers
02:34 <@Dagmar> The almost universal standard for passwords is *dumb as fuck*
02:35 <@Dagmar> If I were allowed to write some rules I could disallow a third of the passwords on campus easily
02:36 <@Dagmar> They have all that latitude and don't use it
02:36 < Evilpig_> this is a team building exercise I could get behind. http://i.imgur.com/GdxiXxr.jpg
02:37 <@Dagmar> Serves them right for buying Dell
02:46 < Evilpig_> calling this future-notlarry.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13cS7oQwCHc
02:46 < GateKeeper> Title: Hannah Montana Coon Repellent - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:50 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3gqTxMHZzw makes you feel bold, yet sassy
02:50 < GateKeeper> Title: Hannah Montana Coon Repellent Part 2-Bold Yet Sassy. - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:00 < aestetix_> wow
03:00 < aestetix_> "When Google launched #nymwars, I thought it was about access to G+. I never drempt they'd penalize SEARCH visibility for us pseudos & nicks."
03:00 < aestetix_> if that is true, it's a pretty big deal
03:00 < Evilpig_> well they do tie in your G+ circles into your search results now
03:01 < aestetix_> Right, but that's different from pushing "fake looking" names to be flower
03:01 < aestetix_> er, flower
03:01 < aestetix_> fucking
03:01 < aestetix_> lower
03:14 < RangerZ> honestly though... think about it form their perspective
03:14 < RangerZ> how many MrNigerianPrince
03:14 < RangerZ> do you think they gt
03:14 < RangerZ> get*
03:14 < Evilpig_> http://i.imgur.com/ycCw6fz.jpg
03:19 < aestetix_> can anyone access mega.co.nz?
03:19 < aestetix_> http://isup.me/mega.co.nz says it is up
03:19 < GateKeeper> Title: Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up? (at isup.me)
03:21 < Evilpig_> aestetix_: yes,  I see a cloud and some gears loading
03:21 < aestetix_> interesting
03:22 < Evilpig_> "THE PRIVACY COMPANY
03:22 < Evilpig_> BIGGER. BETTER. FASTER. STRONGER. SAFER"
03:22 < aestetix_> it's not loading for me
03:24 < aestetix_> https://mega.co.nz/#!8E4AUZrJ!HjYkeh025GkdS0wnxaRMjnY-4BAuqDOvTxh2SYsQpKM
03:24 < aestetix_> what about that link
03:24 < GateKeeper> Title: MEGA (at mega.co.nz)
03:25 < RangerZ> cool, they are making a sequal to "Now You See Me"
03:25 < RangerZ> hopefully its as good as the first one
03:29 < aestetix_> ok
03:29 < aestetix_> that worked
03:30 < aestetix_> I must have had an issue with a plugin
03:31 < Evilpig_> CodeHeroBetaPreview.zip (246.4 MB)
03:31 < aestetix_> yep
03:31 < aestetix_> I figured out my problem
03:32 < Evilpig_> pebcak?
03:32 < aestetix_> I have my browser configured to send along a FUCK_THE_NSA header with all my http requests
03:32 < aestetix_> mega's website apparently doesn't like that :p
03:32 < aestetix_> There is some serious irony in this.
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06:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:28 <@Dolemite> Evilpig_: Are you still monkeying around with devices.php this morning?
08:36 < frsilent> didn't someone in here used to work at redhat?
08:40 <@Bahhumbug> sdodson and mgalgoci
08:42 < frsilent> remember one of them talking about Dr. J at GSU and how he said going to work at RH was pointless
08:43 < frsilent> as money couldn't be made off of opensource
08:51 <@Corydon76-work> That's pretty hilarious
08:52 <@Dolemite> Doesn't sdodson still work at RH?
08:52 < frsilent> well apparently my current boss was classmates with someone named David who graduated from GSU & went to work for RH for a year
08:53 < frsilent> I figured there couldn't be that many
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10:36 <@Dagmar> Damn.  Looks like my homeip.net DYNDNS address actually expired
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11:07 <@rattle> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/16/did-the-nsa-director-mislead-hackers-about-nsa-compliance-problems/
11:07 < GateKeeper> Title: Did the NSA Director mislead hackers about NSA compliance problems? (at www.washingtonpost.com)
11:07 <@rattle> Short answer, yes.
11:09 < RangerZ> Dagmar: dyndns makes you log into their site every month if you want the free account
11:09 < RangerZ> otherwise you have to pay
11:09 < RangerZ> we were just talking about this the other day at the lab
11:10 <@Dagmar> Yeah and I ignored it like I did all the other announcements.  Honestly it should have expired a couple of months ago becuase I never login there.
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11:47 <@oddball> They did that to me once a while ago, and I lost my .doesntexist.com address.
12:05 <@Dagmar> I find it hilarious that I keep hearing windows admins refering to "houseplant" up here
12:10 < RangerZ> as in wilpig's "houseplant" ? lol
12:20 <@Dagmar> Yep.  The very same.
12:21 <@Dagmar> He's becoming notable for his remarkably persistent vegitative state
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12:42 <@Dolemite> I'd be embarrassed to have one of my employees referred to openly as houseplant
12:43 <@Dagmar> Well, he used to work for Plant Ops
12:44 <@Dagmar> Mainly I'm just glad he is no longer even peripherally involved in the maintenance of our elevators.
12:54 <@Dolemite> Yeah, they kept trying to get me to interview him when I was at the NOC, but I knew something was up if Plant Ops was willing to give him up
12:55 <@Dolemite> Plus I'd already been burned with the Telephone Operators glowing recommendation of Ray
12:59 <@sdodson> frsilent: unaware of any David from GSU that came to RHT.
12:59 <@sdodson> frsilent: who's your boss?
13:01 < frsilent> derek henderson
13:02 <@sdodson> frsilent: dunno him, I worked in computer services while I was there
13:14  * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 
13:14 <@Dolemite> sdodson : Where are you now?
13:20 < frsilent> sdodson: might've been after your time; he graduated ~3ish years ago
13:21 < frsilent> we were talking about long hours & he mentioned that his friend david only stayed at RH for a year because they worked him nearly to death
13:21 < frsilent> flying him somewhere for on-site support & expecting him to work through weekends, nights, etc until it was fixed
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13:53 < aestetix_> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/ripping-off-young-america-the-college-loan-scandal-20130815?print=true
13:53 < GateKeeper> Title: The College-Loan Scandal: Matt Taibbi on the Ripping Off of Young America | Politics News | Rolling Stone (at www.rollingstone.com)
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14:38 < Evilpig_> Dagmar, Dagmar: houseplant is probably the nicer of the terms I use for mongo. 
14:38 <@Dagmar> I give it three weeks before he fails to call IRT about something on those new alarms, claiming "Well, they cleared on their own"
14:39 <@Dagmar> Nevermind that yer supposed to call on criticals, period, and it's only good judgment that should be used in not doing so... not pure-ass laziness
14:39 <@Dagmar> Having been the recipient of a few mutliple-hours-old critical calls, I am sure he'll be the first to fuck up
14:40 < Evilpig_> with the audibles not going off he had at least a partial excuse.
14:41 < Evilpig_> that reminds me I need to call and tell notlarry why IE is running on that machine for nagios
14:49 < RangerZ> an interesting presentation at ISIS about " Identifying Important Student Learning Behaviors:  A Data Mining Approach for Open-Ended Learning Environments" to start at 3:00 if anyone is interested
14:50 < RangerZ> (probably no one can make it.... but throwing it out there, lol)
14:54 <@Dagmar> Evlipig: This was some time ago, and I got hte call at 7am when the alarm started at 5am
14:54 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: It was very obviously a "I didn't wake up" problem
14:55 <@Dagmar> Someone at shift change acutally looked at Nagios
14:58 <@rattle> Sigh..  Somedays I wonder why I quit heavy drinking.
15:04 <@Dagmar> Fuck me running
15:04 <@Dagmar> These idiots are manufacturing a _redirect_ to /errors/403.html instead of just issuing a fucking 403 like they're supposed to
15:07 < Evilpig_> rattle: do you want an honest answer to that?  ;) j/k
15:10 < Evilpig_> http://wilpig.org/temp/skydog/manlove.jpg
15:14 <@Dagmar> You know, I think I'll just hook in something to explicitly require a special user group in order to execute wget, and take Apache the fuck OUT of that group
15:15 < Evilpig_> https://history.google.com/  <-- just about creepy
15:15 < GateKeeper> Title: Google Accounts (at history.google.com)
15:15 <@rattle> Evilpig_: Good answer.
15:18 <@Dagmar> Nevermind that they're keeping track of this shit so they can give you decent search results
15:18 <@Dagmar> Wanna see something even scarier?
15:19 < Evilpig_> probably not
15:20 <@Dagmar> Goto about:cache
15:20 <@Dagmar> They're KEEPING EVIDENCE OF ALL OUR BROWSING ACTIVITY!  OH MY GOD!
15:21 <@Dagmar> Chrome is even worse!  chrome://history/
15:21 <@Dagmar> They keep track of all the sites you've been going to!
15:21 <@Dagmar> STALKY!
15:21 < Evilpig_> the cache doesn't bother me all that much cause I clear that regularly.
15:21 < Evilpig_> the google history is just surprisingly detailed
15:22 < Evilpig_> I've noticed the search shit in the autopopulate from where I searched for something at work and it was there in my choices whenI got home
15:22 <@Dagmar> This is why it can give you search results for WoW things, based on the fact that like 40% of your past searches resulted in you turning around and adding "WoW" to the terms
15:22 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: The bookmark sharing is handy as fuck
15:23 <@Dagmar> ...but rest assured I don't use Chrome for certain things when I'm a home
15:23 <@Dagmar> I use Firefox for that, with those features turned off.
15:23 < Evilpig_> I use chrome on the netbook
15:23 < Evilpig_> so basically it gets searches like movie times, episode guides, and porn
15:23 <@Dagmar> The last thing I need is a bunch of sketchy-ass thumbnails and precached pages happening when I open a new tab in Firefox
15:39 <@rattle> Yeah, Google's just great about protecting your privacy..  Unless the NSA asks..  Or the Chinese happen to be hacking their lawful intercept systems?  Because, like, that never happens.  Really.
15:41 <@rattle> Shit, fan, inbound.  <cheer>
15:41 <@rattle> http://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-udall-statement-on-reports-of-compliance-violations-made-under-nsa-collection-programs
15:41 < GateKeeper> Title: Wyden, Udall Statement on Reports of Compliance Violations Made Under NSA Collection Programs | Press Releases | U.S. Senator Ron Wyden (at www.wyden.senate.gov)
15:47 < aestetix_> rattle: sounds like it's a fun time to be in DC
15:48 <@rattle> Actually, I'm glad I'm no longer in DC.
15:48 < aestetix_> Where are you now?
15:48 <@rattle> Boston
15:48 < aestetix_> woah
15:48 < aestetix_> when did that happen?
15:48 <@rattle> A few months ago.  You know I left CAP, right?
15:48 < aestetix_> nope!
15:49 <@rattle> Yeah.  I took over as CSO at Bit9.
15:49 < aestetix_> I assume this is congrats?
15:49 <@rattle> Oh yeah, I left CAP on good terms and all that.  I'm still on the technical advisory board and all that jazz.
15:49 < aestetix_> cool
15:50 <@rattle> It was just time.  Given that I got a 10mo old kid and everything..  It was time to dive out of the non-profit sector.
15:50 < aestetix_> Wait, center is a nonprofit?
15:50 <@rattle> Um, duh.
15:51 <@rattle> It's a 501c3/501c4 org.
15:51 < aestetix_> Oh, so CAP doesn't support candidates, I guess.
15:51 < aestetix_> I don't remember for a c4, but a c3 can't have political affiliation
15:52 <@rattle> Nope.  Very limited political advocacy, and a fuckton of issue advocacy.
15:52 < aestetix_> got it
15:52 <@rattle> There are _very_ strict rules for political advocacy.
15:53 < aestetix_> also, didn't know Andrea was with the WaPo now
15:53 < aestetix_> I have a few projects I'm working on that might look good there ;)
15:54 <@rattle> Andrea is kicking all kinds of ass.
15:54 <@rattle> I'm proud of her.  She's on her way to becoming one of the best tech journalists out there.
16:05 < frsilent> for some reason I was reading Adria
16:05 < frsilent> lol, as in adria richards
16:05 < frsilent> Congrats on the promotion rattle. Don't know if you saw but I took your advice & love working here now (MenuPad startup).
16:06 < frsilent> everyone's smart, rational, & emotionally stable....blows my mind working with people like this
16:06 < frsilent> ***promotion / lateral move (whichever it was)
16:07 < aestetix_> frsilent: need a tissue?
16:09 <@sdodson> frsilent: any idea what David's last name was?
16:10 <@rattle> frsilent: Werd!  Glad my rambling resulted in something good for once!
16:10 <@sdodson> rattle: what's CAP?
16:12 <@rattle> sdodson: CAP == Center for American Progress ? aka.. americanprogress.org / thinkprogress.org / etc..
16:12 <@sdodson> Ahh, the conservative thinktank?
16:12 <@sdodson> ^_^
16:12 <@rattle> Heh
16:13 <@sdodson> I'm worried about our political situation.
16:13 <@rattle> I bet your awake too.
16:13 <@rattle> And you like music, and eating at least once a day.
16:14 <@rattle> And there are some movies you find entertaining.
16:14 <@sdodson> Are you spying on me?
16:14 <@rattle> Yes
16:14 <@rattle> Actually, no.  I outsource that.
16:14 <@rattle> I get very general reports.
16:15 <@rattle> But yeah.  American politics is basically as fucked as it's ever been, plus a little bit more.
16:16 <@rattle> But, at least even in our current state we are still not doing so bad in the big picture.  I don't see the current situation as an existential threat to American liberty or prosperity..  But we need to vote some mutherfuckers out of office.  Congress is broken.
16:17 <@rattle> Very, very broken.
16:17 <@sdodson> I don't understand why conservatives are so doom and gloom though.
16:19 <@rattle> In short, because it's been working.
16:19 <@rattle> There are several avenues to drill into why.
16:19 <@rattle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cultural_Politics_of_Emotion
16:19 < GateKeeper> Title: The Cultural Politics of Emotion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
16:19 <@sdodson> Yeah, it's a very visceral fear they tap into.
16:20 < aestetix_> so
16:20 < aestetix_> https://twitter.com/jilliancyork/status/368480411485102080
16:20 < GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / jilliancyork: @aestetix Maybe lay off the ... (at twitter.com)
16:20 < aestetix_> can someone explain how that's a rape joke?
16:20 <@rattle> On one level, political parties are out to win.  In some cases, the desire to win trumps the actual idealogical base of the party.  I think that's what's going on with the conservatives.
16:22 <@rattle> I try very hard to be pragmatic about things.  I don't think it's a simple case of one party being right about everything and the other being wrong.  The best solutions are often found through compromise between different viewpoints.  We intellectually all know that..
16:22 <@rattle> But there are ways to "short circuit" the system in some regards, if your interest is only in wining.
16:23 <@sdodson> I don't think we'll make significant progress until there's a viable third party.
16:23 <@rattle> And I think that's a portion of what's going on..  But that's just my opinion.
16:24 <@rattle> For instance, PPACA could have been much better, if our lawmakers were all universally focused on fixing a major problem, rather than just winning points.
16:25 <@rattle> But they were too busy spending their TV time branding it as Obamacare while trying to either demonize or glorify ahead of the election then solving real problems.
16:26 <@rattle> I don't actually think it has shit to do with a need for a third party or anything like that.  It's a deeper social problem, and a serious lack of understanding by most people about how government works.
16:27 <@rattle> In many regards, a third-party actually fucks things up more.
16:27 <@rattle> It's a natural response to the problem of "neither of these fuckwad groups actually represent my concerns".
16:27 <@rattle> What makes you think another party is gonna help with that?
16:28 <@rattle> There are valid arguments both ways as to if multi-party systems make any difference in getting things done..  If there's anything close to a consensus opinion, it's something like "yeah, it's still fucked."
16:29 <@rattle> In any situation, real problems get solved by compromise between opposing viewpoints?  Regardless of how many parties are involved.
16:29 < frsilent> sdodson: tomberlin I believe
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17:05 < aestetix_> sdodson: are you near Beech Mountain, NC?
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17:05 < aestetix_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Oz_%28theme_park%29
17:05 < GateKeeper> Title: Land of Oz (theme park) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
17:06 < aestetix_> http://seriouslyforreal.com/seriously-for-real/the-eerie-abandoned-land-of-oz-theme-park/
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21:26 < RangerZ> sdodson: you might get your "3rd party" soon, it'll be called "the republicans" because only targetting white males (myself being one[as I think most of this room is]) is a suicidal path for a party
21:27 < aestetix_> penis
21:28 < RangerZ> not that I think the democrats having uncontrolled power is good either, but NRC voting unanimously to not allow republican primary debates on NBC b/c NBC entertainment was going to air a FOX made miniseries on Hilary Clinton...
21:28 < RangerZ> is NOT a sign of a strong cohesive ruling party
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22:02 <@Dagmar> Good.  The last thing we need is a ruling party.
22:03 < RangerZ> ruling meaning = they can make and follow rules for themselves
22:03 < RangerZ> not monarchy ruling
22:05 <@Dagmar> I'm going to go catch the 11pm showing of Kick-Ass 2
22:05 <@oddball> If it wasn't for the TKD testing tomorrow, I'd join you.
22:06 < RangerZ> dagmar which theater?
22:06 < RangerZ> i was debating on going myself
22:06 <@Dagmar> Lookin' like the Hollywood 27 at this point
22:07 <@Dagmar> The toughest part will be keeping my mouth shut when Hit-Girl is on the screen
22:07 <@Dagmar> ...cuz that is hawt in a completely non-sexual way
22:08 < RangerZ> lies, she's 16
22:08 < RangerZ> you're fine
22:08 < RangerZ> sorry 17*
22:09 < RangerZ> dagmar, I'll go ahead and meet you there I guess, I was going to hit up oppryland, but 'ehh'
22:09 < RangerZ> parking there always sucks
22:10 <@Dagmar> Opryland's a much longer drive for me
22:10 < RangerZ> not so much for me
22:10 < RangerZ> about 15 for hollywood vs 10 for oppyland
22:19 <@Dagmar> Holy shit three more indicted?  Damn
22:34 <@oddball> huh?
22:38  * oddball looks at wsmv's website
22:38 <@oddball> oh... shit.
22:43 <@Bahhumbug> Good.
22:43 <@Bahhumbug> At least assuming they're guilty.
22:45 <@oddball> Yeah... but so far this doesn't looke like the Duke LaCross team incident.
22:46 <@oddball> So... at least the DA is persuing the case because he's doing his job, not because he thinks it's his big case that will make him famous.
23:01 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed.
23:57 <@Corydon76-work> Vandy football players involved in a scandal?  Next thing you know, they'll be winning division games
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