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02:41 <@wilpig> https://status.github.com/
02:41 < GateKeeper> Title: GitHub System Status (at status.github.com)
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04:35 <@wilpig> https://vanderbilt.taleo.net/careersection/jobdetail.ftl?job=222827
04:35 < GateKeeper> Title: Search Jobs | Work at Vanderbilt | Vanderbilt University (at vanderbilt.taleo.net)
04:36 <@wilpig> RangerZ1: did you see this?  https://vanderbilt.taleo.net/careersection/jobdetail.ftl?job=153847
04:36 < GateKeeper> Title: Search Jobs | Work at Vanderbilt | Vanderbilt University (at vanderbilt.taleo.net)
04:37 < RangerZ1> yeah, i'm actually not good at linux sys admin at all
04:38 < RangerZ1> also analyst 3 are (from my experience, which feel free to correct from vandy's POV) filled inhosue, and only 1 (and maybe 2) positions are filled externally
04:38 < RangerZ1> despite what the applications say
04:38 <@wilpig> that one was a game programmer
04:38 < RangerZ1> flash games though :/
04:39 < RangerZ1> and i have no experience with any of that crap they are talking about
04:39 <@wilpig> well that stinks
04:40 <@wilpig> he seems like someone we should talk to for PN  https://sites.google.com/site/surgeuniverse2/team/developers-1
04:41 < RangerZ1> i got in touch with a guy i know, fellow grad student who would be interested
04:41 < RangerZ1> just waiting on jonny_X to give me a 'good PR blurb', etc
04:42 <@wilpig> PhreakNIC is an annual convention held in Nashville, TN. Originally started as a "hacker convention," it has since grown to include all things of interest to the technology minded individual, such as sci-fi/fantasy, gaming, anime and other areas of tech culture.
04:42 < RangerZ1> so I can send it out to ISIS as a whole and to EECS profs, grads, and post docs I personally know
04:44 <@wilpig> gonna do this scanning work that sat here over the weekend and didn't get touched
04:44 <@wilpig> fuckin' slackers man...
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05:34 < aestetix_> penis
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06:29 <@wilpig> http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2013/08/05/monday-math-mnps-ban-on-grades-of-zero
06:29 <@wilpig> fuckin' moron.
06:30 <@wilpig> a zero hurts the gpa more than a 50... yeah no shit.  as it should for someone that did no work, or was so fucking stupid as to earn no points on an assignment at all.
06:31 <@wilpig> I hate the everybody gets a prize just for participating people.  we all aren't winners, everytime.  deal with it snowflake.
06:32 <@Bahhumbug> ...
06:32 <@Bahhumbug> Wow.
06:32 <@Bahhumbug> Simply... wow
06:33 <@wilpig> some of the comments on that backing the author are just as astounding.  i mean wtf
06:33 <@Shadow404> i agree completely
06:33 <@Shadow404> thats now how the fucking world works
06:33 <@Bahhumbug> My little Bobby got an F.  yusomean?
06:33 <@Shadow404> i dont just get paid for not showing up
06:33 <@Shadow404> i have to work to earn money
06:33 <@Bahhumbug> You made him cry.
06:34 <@Shadow404> this generation is gonna be so fucked up
06:34 <@Bahhumbug> My wife works in a county elementary school out here.
06:34 <@wilpig> when I was in school if I got a zero and went home, my parents would ask me wtf I did that was so wrong to get a zero.  knowing damn well it would take me working my ass off on the rest of the grades to compensate for one colassal fuck up
06:34 <@Bahhumbug> The bullshit she has to put up with from parents is simply astounding.
06:34 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: the answer is more ass whoopin's
06:35 <@Bahhumbug> Yes.
06:35 <@Shadow404> yeah, the ruined eveything
06:35 <@Bahhumbug> Yes it damn well fucking is.
06:35 <@wilpig> beat them at home, so they don't come to school with behavior problems
06:35 <@Bahhumbug> I got spanked when I was a kid.
06:35 <@wilpig> as did I
06:35 <@Bahhumbug> Didn't hurt me any.
06:35 <@Bahhumbug> Everyone my age did.
06:35 <@Bahhumbug> None of us ever thought about bringing a gun to school.
06:36 <@Bahhumbug> None of us ever planned on blowing the building up.
06:36 <@wilpig> we took guns to school. ;)
06:36 <@Bahhumbug> None of us ever thought to talk back to a priest or a nun.
06:36 <@wilpig> could sheet skeet in ag too
06:36 <@Shadow404> yeah, we had skeet as well, use to bring your own shotgun
06:36 <@Bahhumbug> None of us expected to get away scott free if we did something stupid or illegal or just plain wrong and got caught at it.
06:36 <@Shadow404> and its not like we showed it off like some marvel
06:37 <@Bahhumbug> There were repercussions for fucking up.  And we knew it.
06:37 <@wilpig> Shadow404: bullshit.  every redneck that got a new shotgun brought it in to show it off
06:37 <@Bahhumbug> The younger generation are a bunch of entitled little shits that all need to have their asses worn the fuck out.
07:08 <@wilpig> heh http://i.imgur.com/4j1rYzm.jpg
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09:28 < Synx|hm_> yay found my old pgp keys on an old backup drive
09:28 < Synx|hm_> bummer i am still missing 2 years worth of photos :(
09:29 < Synx|hm_> now to rememeber the passphrases
09:29 <@wilpig> donkeypunch
09:29 <@wilpig> 3atsh1t
09:39 <@wilpig> time to go sleep now.
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10:27 <@rattle> Well, that was fun.
11:23 < aestetix_> what up dawg
11:24 < aestetix_> rattle: bringing your kid to phreaknic this year?
11:26 <@rattle> Hell no.
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11:39 < Y_S> Ok what's the best load balancing dual wan router that can handle VPN and is gigabit on the lan? :-) any advice?
11:40 <@eryc> linux
11:40 < Synx|hm_> pfsense
11:40 <@brimstone> gigabit on the lan because you have more than 100mbit on the wans combined?
11:41 < Y_S> Yeah I need a box for a place that has comcast and clear wire as backup
11:41 < Y_S> Yes!
11:41 <@eryc> i think cisco has something for that
11:41 < Y_S> 100mbps comcast and clear wire
11:41 <@brimstone> neat
11:42 <@eryc> http://www.cradlepoint.com/sites/default/files/productdocs/Cisco_WAN_Failover_Configuration_via_IP_SLA.pdf
11:43 <@eryc> oh you want to load balance
11:44 < Y_S> I really want a FatPipe but they won't spend $7900
11:44 < Y_S> Yes load balance would be nice
11:44 <@eryc> maybe this http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080950834.shtml
11:44 < GateKeeper> Title: IOS NAT Load-Balancing for Two ISP Connections - Cisco Systems (at www.cisco.com)
11:45 <@eryc> or use linux or pfsense
11:49 <@brimstone> you could use a $200 linux box to do it, but if it's for a company, get something with support you can call when it goes south
11:50 <@rattle> I believe the baby PAN's have that functionality too.
11:51 < Y_S> It's for Kenny chesney management company and like most if my clients are simple Mac people
11:51 <@brimstone> use a mac mini!
11:51 < Y_S> :-)
11:52 <@rattle> They list the PA-200 saying it only does 100Mbit throughput with App-ID enabled, but that's bullshit because they don't want to draw people away from other models.  It's more like 500-700Mbit depending on traffic complexity.
12:00 <@Dagmar> Holy shit man
12:00 <@Dagmar> Most people, when they set up redundant links, don't pick the most failure-prone ISPs in town
12:01 <@Dagmar> Clearwire is sane people, but if the sun farts you may have problems.
12:01 <@Dagmar> ...because they're wireless last I checked.
12:01 <@Dagmar> Comcast are just fucking clueless.
12:01 < aestetix_> wilpig: are you at help@nashville2600.org?
12:01 <@eryc> its like RAID for ISPs
12:02 < Y_S> Yeah comcast sucks but who else can give 100mbps?
12:02 <@eryc> get a bunch of cheap ISPs and raid them together
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12:02 <@eryc> then you get reliability
12:02 <@rattle> Well?  There right answer is to get an ASN and a /24 out of ARIN before they run out of IPv4 space this month?  Get a real router?  And real ISPs...
12:03 <@Dagmar> Y_S: Talk to Wilbur about their 100mbps
12:04 < Y_S> The vast majority of businesses won't pay for "real"
12:04 <@Dagmar> Comcast makes a lot of promises.
12:04 < Y_S> I've got 100mbps at my house
12:05 < Y_S> Yes they do! Ja ja
12:05 < Y_S> Well only the fiber customers really get treated right
12:05 < Y_S> I just did a fiber install on chickering rd
12:11 < Y_S> Something like a pro safe because it has to be simple I have to install fast these guys would never pay for a day of configuring a Linux box
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12:14 <@rattle> Not to sound like a broken record, but the PaloAlto Networks firewalls are the only firewalls worth buying these days.
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12:16 < aestetix_> God I hate ghetto rap
12:16 < Y_S> I'm gonna check that out
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12:35 <@brimstone> #se2600: Your random tech questions answered.
12:40 <@Catonic> df -h
12:45 <@rattle> OUCH, EYE GOT KICKED IN THE FSCK'ING ADS.  http://blog.sucuri.net/2013/08/openx-org-compromised-and-downloads-injected-with-a-backdoor.html
12:46 <@rattle> haw haw haw
12:51 < Synx|hm_> god damn it
12:51 < Synx|hm_> why the fuck wont my old mobo network boot
12:52 < Synx|hm_> i would really like to get dban started on some old hd's and not waste time fucking around with this box
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13:00 <@Catonic> lol
13:01 <@Catonic> how you doin rattle?
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13:07 <@rattle> Not bad.  A big lagged from a week of Vegas and associated travel..
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13:18 < aestetix_> Catonic: have you joined IDESG yet?
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13:19 < aestetix_> http://www.yourjewishnews.com/2013/07/w7334.html?m=1
13:19 < GateKeeper> Title: Man suspecting girlfriend of cheating checks her phone and finds explicit video of her with 4-year-old (at www.yourjewishnews.com)
13:19 < aestetix_> I don't even know what to say about this
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13:24 < northrup> Man, that's crazy. I'll never figure out what makes some people tick.
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13:39 <@Dagmar> Dude... auth, then joins.
13:41 <@brimstone> or sasl on connect
13:42 < Synx|hm_> god damn it
13:42 < Synx|hm_> cant fucking network book, dban doesn't want to boot from usb yumi multibook (keeps crashing on wipe)
13:42 < Synx|hm_> wtf
13:42 < Synx|hm_> brimstone: i sasl on connect but sometimes the server pool sends me to a server that doesn't support sasl :(
13:43 <@brimstone> you disconnect?
13:44 <@brimstone> what is this "offline" you speak of?
13:47 <@jb7od> Synx|hm_: i know what you mean. does it to me too sometimes.
13:48 < Synx|hm_> yar
13:48 < Synx|hm_> might need to work on my irssi config
13:49 <@jb7od> doesn't seem to do it as much as it used to, hop to non-sasl servers, but once in a while it does.
13:49 <@jb7od> (xchat)
13:50 < aestetix_> wow
13:50 < aestetix_> http://lafayette.craigslist.org/cas/3980975495.html
13:50 < GateKeeper> Title: hemorrhoiding - w4m (at lafayette.craigslist.org)
13:51 <@Dagmar> This is why I tie my joins to on ^notice "NickServ You are now identified for *" {
13:51 < aestetix_> I don't even know what to say about that ad
13:53 <@Dagmar> At least someone's not trying to sell a baby
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13:54 <@Dagmar> Hell, by the way people were acting you'd think he was trying to sell it by the pound and not the whole thing.
13:55 < Synx|hm_> finally dban running
13:55 < Synx|hm_> but had to put a pata cd drive on there so i can only do one pata drive at a time now :(
13:55 < Synx|hm_> i took a HD from a friend months ago as he was tossing his old old old computer, i told him id wipe the drive for him
13:55 < Synx|hm_> i looked in it just to see and it was full of porn haha
14:00 < Synx|hm_> where theres that... baby dropped for the first time
14:01 <@Dagmar> lol
14:02 <@Dagmar> $person was just contacting me about why chmod suddenly doesn't affect subdirectories
14:02 <@Dagmar> I'm like "It needs -R to enable recursion"
14:02 <@Dagmar> Her response "But it's worked that way for the last three years"
14:02 <@Dagmar> My response "No, it's not worked that way in at least the last 19 years."
14:02 <@Dagmar> TRUMPED.
14:19 < aestetix_> heh
14:19 < aestetix_> maybe she was using an alias?
14:23 <@jb7od> dunno, that's a good idea for an chown alias.
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14:40 <@Catonic> Synx|hm_: just PXEboot it
14:41 <@brimstone> "Synx|hm_ │ cant fucking network book"
14:41 <@brimstone> i assume that means pxeboot
14:42 <@Catonic>         kernel dban/dban.bzi
14:42 <@Catonic>         append nuke="dwipe --autonuke --method=gutmann"
14:42 < Synx|hm_> yup no idea why it wouldn't network boot on either NIC
14:42 <@Catonic> Sometimes you can find a way, sometimes it's just easier to swap machines...
14:43 < Synx|hm_> but i have a PXE server for dban, drive imaging, spinrite
14:43 <@Catonic> you can get the bootloader thingy running from something else.
14:43 <@Catonic> I've also found that sometimes you have to enable a compatibility mode for ahci or sata to make it work
14:43 <@brimstone> he couldn't get dban to run from usb
14:44 < Synx|hm_> ya i tried all my usual methods, PXE, USB drive, finally had to burn a cd :(
14:45 < Synx|hm_> its plugging away now, 8hrs to do or so it says
14:49 <@brimstone> you need an iPXE on your desk then
14:51 < Synx|hm_> ?
14:51 <@brimstone> iPXE.org
14:51 < Synx|hm_> ya looking there now, but what do you mean by 'on your desk'
14:51 < Synx|hm_> that looks like replacement firmware?
14:52 <@brimstone> oh, toss in "cd" up there
14:52 <@brimstone> an iPXE cd
14:52 < Synx|hm_> ahh y
14:52 < Synx|hm_> ya
14:52 < Synx|hm_> :) ill add that to my toolkit
14:52 < Synx|hm_> need to figure out why my PXE server doesn't work when its not on my normal VLAN (i have all firewall rules in place and DHCP config pointing to corrent IP)
14:53 < Synx|hm_> damn it dfsdirectsales, get more 2007FP monitors on your site, im running out of my 90day return window to return the second shit one you've sold me
14:54 < Synx|hm_> first was "inspected" and had a huge fucking scratch all the way across the panel
14:54 < Synx|hm_> this one has some connection issues with artifacts and random display cutout
15:33 <@Dagmar> Synx|hm_: Some people would take that as a sign to stop buying from them
15:34 <@Dagmar> As to the PXE boot thing, use tcpdump.
15:36 < Synx|hm_> Dagmar: agree but i need this specific monitor
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16:31 < aestetix_> ok
16:31 < aestetix_> this new rackspace disk partition thing rocks
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16:51 < aestetix_> jonny_X: are you help@? did you get my email? :)
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17:01 < RangerZ1> glad to see dayton is still more like TN than I thought... :/ http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/08/06/2419681/ohio-bus-discrimination/
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17:24 <@wilpig> aestetix_: yeah I get a copy of those
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17:25 <@Bahhumbug> Sigh, here we go with the bouncing again.
17:25 <@wilpig> we can fix that
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17:34 < aestetix_> wilpig: copy of what?
17:37 <@wilpig> email sent to help@
17:38 < aestetix_> ah cool
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19:06 <@wilpig> if this isn't a notlarry joke, then i've never heard a notlarry joke. http://www.explosm.net/comics/3257/
19:06 < GateKeeper> Title: Cyanide & Happiness #3257 - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net)
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20:06 < aestetix_> so
20:06 < aestetix_> Do doing multiple transfers actually save airlines money?
20:06 <@wilpig> weird
20:06 <@wilpig> is that because they can carry more packages that way to different destinations?
20:07 < aestetix_> well
20:07 < aestetix_> all I know is it costs way more to get a direct flight than to have layovers
20:09 <@oddball> Well, two things with that.  Flying to hubs and transfering can save them money (think distribution points).  Also, they know that they can get away with charging more for direct flights due to the convenience.
20:11 < aestetix_> ahh ok
20:11 < aestetix_> so it's less about technical savings and more fucking customers over
20:11 <@oddball> No.  It's both.
20:11 < aestetix_> oh
20:11 < aestetix_> heh
20:13 <@oddball> If every one has to fly to a central distribution point, and then to their destination, there's a higher chance of them being able to fill a plane to/from the distribution point than directly from one point to another.
20:15 < aestetix_> also a higher chance of various shops getting customers
20:15 < aestetix_> I can't tell you how many times I've bought the $4 soda instead of waiting to get to my destination
20:15 <@oddball> heh
20:28 < RangerZ1> aestetix_: take-off/landing is expensive, thats why, flying higher in the atmosphere requires less fuel
20:28 < RangerZ1> how much that 'really' has an effect... *shrug*
20:29 <@oddball> I think the big thing they look at is how to get the most full flights.
20:30 <@oddball> 'cause a 737 carrying only 6 passengers is expensive.
20:39 <@Dagmar> yep
20:54 <@wilpig> holy shit..
20:55 <@wilpig> fucking security morons
20:55 <@Dagmar> No, really?
20:55 <@Dagmar> R U SRS?
20:55 <@wilpig> got a ticket last week requesting two cables be run from firewalls to primary routers
20:55 <@wilpig> I made the cables but had a question on them so it got left for the weekend group to actually run, cables were made and labeled though.
20:55 <@Dagmar> Those utter bastards.
20:55 <@wilpig> weekedn crew failed.
20:56 <@wilpig> we finished it yesterday
20:56 <@wilpig> TODAY.... just got an email "Please remove cable. Cabling was for Change Record #26594, which has been cancelled"
20:56 <@Dagmar> Still not as bad as my monday morning
20:56 <@Dagmar> I had to revert five DNS changes for production systems because it was cancelled at 4am and all they sent was an email
20:56 <@wilpig> at least they've opened the other position in your dept
20:57 <@wilpig> wow.  that's pretty bad
20:57 <@Dagmar> SO, when I came in at 8 and saw that DiamondIP had failed, I said "Lucky break for us" put in the DNS changes that weren't in the zones yet, and kicked DiamondIP back into gear
20:57 <@Dagmar> Not FIVE MINUTES LATER I find out from Sean that the DNS changes were a no-go
20:58 <@Dagmar> I shut down the operation mid-flight, snatched the old zones from ip-srv5, reset the records, kicked off the "update teh everythings" job again
21:02 < RangerZ1> wilpig: http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/08/06/2135207/how-the-leap-second-bug-led-facebook-to-build-dcim-tools you work for Facebook now? ;) hehe
21:02 < GateKeeper> Title: How the Leap Second Bug Led Facebook To Build DCIM Tools - Slashdot (at it.slashdot.org)
21:02 <@Dagmar> FUCK LEAP SECONDS.
21:02 <@Dagmar> Seriously.
21:03 <@Dagmar> That made me so mad
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22:03 < RangerZ1> wilpig: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/999164_660918577271477_1215004733_n.jpg there you go
22:03 < RangerZ1> Dr. Who-ness
22:03 <@Dagmar> lol
22:07 < RangerZ1> http://likes.com/wtfmagazine/what-love-about-superman-vs-batman?page=3 fuck yeah i'd watch that movie
22:07 < GateKeeper> Title: Superman vs Batman, And Other Crossovers We Want! - Likes (at likes.com)
22:07 < RangerZ1> batman vs ironman...
22:11 <@Dagmar> Batman would win because Batman cheats.
22:16 < RangerZ1> maybe, i think it would be a great crossover
22:16 < RangerZ1> plus batman has real combat skills
22:16 < RangerZ1> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/08/06/235236/first-laptop-with-full-sized-solar-panels-will-run-on-ubuntu ....what...
22:16 < GateKeeper> Title: First Laptop With Full-Sized Solar Panels Will Run On Ubuntu - Slashdot (at hardware.slashdot.org)
22:16 < RangerZ1> charges in 2hours... and runs 8~10 hours...
22:17 < RangerZ1> so they invented carbon nano-tube super capaciters and super efficient solar panels that I'm not aware of?
22:17 < RangerZ1> lol
22:17 <@Dagmar> You've not been reading arstechnica, have you
22:18 < RangerZ1> not today
22:18 < RangerZ1> i slept 12+hours
22:18 < RangerZ1> woke up at 5pm
22:18 <@Dagmar> If they discovered that if you fart wearing underwear made of graphene it could recharge your phone, I would not be the least bit surprised
22:19 < RangerZ1> yeah... me neither
22:19 <@Dagmar> The next 20 years is going to be all about carbon, not silicon
22:19 < RangerZ1> just the engineering issues with it, trying to figure out how to make it cheap, etc
22:20 <@Dagmar> Cheap is covered.
22:20 <@Dagmar> graphene+lightscribe
22:21 < RangerZ1> mass producable
22:21 < RangerZ1> then
22:21 <@Dagmar> That covers it
22:21 < RangerZ1> same thing with solar panels
22:21 < RangerZ1> if you could roll-print them, we'd all have them
22:21 <@Dagmar> They've been making graphene super-cap sheets using _lightscribe_ DVD burners.
22:21 <@Dagmar> Like, off-the-shelf $25 burners
22:22 < RangerZ1> yeah, i saw, but the problem is i can't go to the store and buy them in AAA/AA size
22:22 <@Dagmar> I think the holdup is engineers too busy fapping to the specs to get any work done
22:22 < aestetix_> penis
22:23 <@Dagmar> At some point, they're going to hit upon charging the things with raised plates containing a big-ass touchstone chargetr
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22:26 < RangerZ1> hell, they will just charge off of the ambient FM radio signals
22:26 <@Dagmar> A shame they've killed FM radio
22:27 < RangerZ1> ummm...?
22:27 <@Dagmar> Nothing worth listening to on it.  It's only a matter of time now
22:29 < RangerZ1> nah, you're not a teenager, they still listen to it
22:29 < RangerZ1> pop/top 40, etc
22:30 < RangerZ1> if nothing else
22:32 < RangerZ1> but nashville radio sucks worse than most other cities i've been to
22:32 < RangerZ1> like 3 stations even worth checking before deciding there is nothing you want to listen to, etc
22:35 < aestetix_> vagina
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23:38 < aestetix_> http://i.imgur.com/Y2kkdev.png
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23:49 < aestetix_> woah
23:49 < aestetix_> http://nazifeetusa.tumblr.com/
23:49 < aestetix_> gay nazi porn
23:52 < northrup> See - the internet exists for all types ;)
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