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00:26 <@notlarry> Evilpig: ping
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03:04 < RangerZ> aestetix_: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/Gov-action-averts-San-Francisco-transit-strike-4705814.php
03:04 < GateKeeper> Title: Gov. action averts San Francisco transit strike - seattlepi.com (at www.seattlepi.com)
03:05 < RangerZ> for what its worth, problem is you still live in the bay ;)
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06:21 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:32 < Evilpig_> I still have no better understanding of that utility.  but it's at least functional now
06:36 <@Dolemite> heh
06:36 <@Dolemite> I am going to try to start closing out as much as possible for an 8/30 release.  It's been nearly 6 months since 2.1
06:37 < Evilpig_> did you get a chance go look over that change I made to the security stuff?
06:37 <@Dolemite> But given how much has changed, it's really more like 3.0 than 2.2
06:37 < Evilpig_> agreed
06:37 <@Dolemite> No, I'll see about that today
06:37 < Evilpig_> but int he scope of things they are small changes, functionality wise
06:37 <@Dolemite> Despite Oracle's best efforts, we managed to get 2 libraries moved this weekend
06:38 < Evilpig_> if you agree with how I changed that, then we just need to apply the same model to the cabinets and anything else that might be appropriate.
06:38 <@Dolemite> By the way, I'm not going to be able to make it to PN this year
06:38 < Evilpig_> sob
06:38 < Evilpig_> no u, no mirage, rattle might be out
06:38 <@Dolemite> It's the weekend before I have to leave for Data Center World and it's end of fiscal year madness
06:38 < Evilpig_> which datacenter world?
06:38 < Evilpig_> vegas?
06:38 <@Dolemite> Orlando
06:39 <@Dolemite> brb, need to go in the data center
06:39 < Evilpig_> gotcha. redoing my 6TB array right now too.  making it straight ext4, then gonna redo the place where I put things to be nix based
06:46 <@Dolemite> cool
06:46 <@Dolemite> At some point I have to upgrade the drives in my array
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07:04 < Evilpig_> anyone know if continuum got picked up for a third series or did I just watch the finale?
07:04 <@Dolemite> yes
07:05 <@Dolemite> It was on their facebook page a week or two ago
07:05 < Evilpig_> yes to which
07:05 <@Dolemite> It got picked up
07:05 < Evilpig_> cause this would be a fine ending otherwise
07:06 <@Dolemite> Actually, that was the notice that SyFy had signed up for Season 3, which means that Canada had already picked it up before that
07:06 < Evilpig_> Was gonna say cause this is a showcase show not scifi
07:06 < Evilpig_> just like lost girl
07:07 <@Dolemite> haven't had a chance to watch last night's Continuum and Falling Skies, yet
07:07 <@Dolemite> Yes, Showcase produces it, but SyFy airs it about 6 months behind
07:07 < Evilpig_> starting falling skies now.  still waiting on this mkfs to finish
07:07 < Evilpig_> Writing inode tables: 29252/44712
07:07 <@Dolemite> http://www.tvfanatic.com/2013/08/continuum-renewed-for-season-3/
07:07 < GateKeeper> Title: Continuum: Renewed for Season 3 - TV Fanatic (at www.tvfanatic.com)
07:14 <@Shadow404> why cant overseas employees look at teh to/cc field of an email and notice i was already copied before sending me 15 forwards for the same email chain
07:14 <@Shadow404> sigh
07:15 < Evilpig_> they can, they just hate you
07:15 <@Shadow404> that must be it
07:15 <@Shadow404> well, i only have to deal with this group for another 5 days so woot
07:18 < Evilpig_> talked to my old man last night, he's trying to convince me to move to cali
07:18 <@Dagmar> yay gas-powered weedeaters at 7 in the fucking morning
07:18 < Evilpig_> he's making a pretty good argument too
07:18 <@Shadow404> hot girls in bathing suits?
07:21 < Evilpig_> white is now a minority class there, working toward protected status.  heh
07:21 <@Dolemite> Evilpig_: What part of CA is he in?
07:23 < Evilpig_> Fresno right now.  but not much tech work in that area
07:23 <@Dolemite> No, but it's not too far away from areas with work
07:23 < Evilpig_> my uncle lives in the hills above LA and was considering that area
07:23 <@Dolemite> Yeah, but LA is...
07:23 <@Dolemite> LA
07:23 < Evilpig_> indeed
07:24 < Evilpig_> but I have abundant family there
07:24 <@Dolemite> You could date some pr0n stars at least
07:24 <@Dolemite> And go learn to pray to Xenu
07:25 < Evilpig_> all praise lord hubbard for he was wise
07:26 <@Dolemite> What's the big conference room number, again?  Hill 223?
07:27 < Evilpig_> sounds right.  I dunno, doesn't really affect me.  heh
07:27 <@Dolemite> Zafar volunteered Vanderbilt for hosting the next AFCOM meeting
07:27 <@Dolemite> so I'll be there the day before PhreakNIC
07:31 <@Shadow404> are you guys still at the same hotel this year? the stadium?
07:31 <@Dolemite> No, we moved away from that one last year
07:32 <@Dolemite> now it's down in Murfreesboro - so closer to you, Shadow
07:32 < Evilpig_> Clarion Inn and Suites, same as last year
07:32 <@Shadow404> ah, what happened to the old place?
07:32 <@Shadow404> i thought you had an agreement?
07:32 <@Dolemite> They got too big for their britches
07:32 <@Shadow404> after installing their network?
07:32 <@Shadow404> oh, demanded to much?
07:32 < Evilpig_> We did, and they kept changing staff and we kept getting shit on
07:32 <@Shadow404> fuck that shit
07:32 <@Dolemite> Well it seems that a Nashville 2600 leader after me burned the bridge, and it was nearly impossible to rebuild it
07:33 < Evilpig_> Burned it, pissed on the rubble, then still didn't answer its phone calls
07:33 <@Dolemite> Plus what Evilpig said
07:33 <@Shadow404> fuck skyshitter
07:33 <@Dickie> SkyPoop
07:34 <@Dolemite> But even beyond that, they wanted to charge non-crackhotel prices for a crackhotel location
07:34 <@Dolemite> So the new location is in a safe area (other than dodging all of the cars if you are stupid enough to try to jaywalk)
07:34 <@Dolemite> Plus there are plenty of decent restaurants in walking distance
07:34 <@Shadow404> cool, in a safer hotel?
07:34 <@Dolemite> Much
07:35 <@Shadow404> (though i will miss german place to eat)
07:35 <@Dolemite> And while SkypoopCon is next to the airport, there's nowhere to go other than that hotel, either
07:35 <@Dolemite> The Hotel Preston is in a very sketchy neighborhood
07:35 <@Dolemite> Basically 1/2 mile away from the first Days Inn Hotel that PhreakNIC got condemned
07:36 < Evilpig_> nice hotel, the area around is pretty dead though
07:36 <@Shadow404> Heh, love the website this year
07:36 <@Shadow404> and the laughing boy poster
07:36 < Evilpig_> nasty chinese please, two apt complexes, handful of liquor stores
07:36 <@Dolemite> Yeah, the hotel has had money pumped into it, but that doesn't change the fact that if you walk off of the parking lot you're likely to get shanked
07:37 <@Shadow404> yep, i saw many a drug deals from the top of the old hotel
07:37 < Evilpig_> reconfigured array... now getting ~25MB/s writes.  that's about double what I was getting with the old setup
07:38 <@Dolemite> nice
07:38 <@Shadow404> ok, so from my new house to the new pn its 3hr, 11min
07:38 <@Dolemite> Where's your new hizzy?
07:39 <@Shadow404> to the old hotel its 3hr, 39 min
07:39 <@Shadow404> hehe
07:39 <@Shadow404> marietta, near powder springs and east west
07:39 < Evilpig_> Shadow404: we didn't move it far.  still the nashville burbs
07:39 <@Shadow404> Evilpig_: Dolemite was saying it was closer
07:39 <@Shadow404> i was being silly
07:40 <@Dolemite> Yeah, coming from Atlanta you won't have to deal with Nashville traffic at all...   it's the third exit after signs of civilization past Chattanooga
07:42 <@Dolemite> Evilpig_: Even though I won't be there, send me the pudding
07:42 < Evilpig_> the pudding was not for your consumption
07:42 <@Dolemite> I'll put it to better use
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07:47 <@Bahhumbug> Heh, wife's aunt lives in Power Springs.
07:47 <@Bahhumbug> meh, Powder
07:48 < Evilpig_> well that was a twist.  Guess they have M. Night writing for falling skies now
07:48 <@Bahhumbug> Dolemite: I like how you completely ignored the existence of Manchester.
07:48 < Evilpig_> Bahhumbug: manchester only exists one time a year and you know it
07:48 <@Shadow404> Bahhumbug: lived there before, bleh
07:49 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, bullshit.  Manchester is fine.
07:49 <@Shadow404> other than the small shopping strip, its inconvient to about everything
07:50 <@Dolemite> Bahhumbug: That's why I used the word "civilization" rather than "population"
07:51 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, bullshit.
07:52 <@Dolemite> Well, first of all, I'm an old fart.  Old enough to remember that until Wal-Mart, the only sign visible from the interstate that Manchester even existed was the Liquor Store/Racetrack Gas Station, and the fact that you could stop off for a burger at Burger King.
07:53 <@Dolemite> Sure, there are a few more signs visible, now, but for the most part, Manchester's visibility from I-24 is limited to a strip mall, a few fast food joints, and some gas stations.
07:54 <@Bahhumbug> And the 3 in-city exits and the 105 which is, for all purposes, still Manchester.
07:55 <@Bahhumbug> Dolemite: If I might be so bold as to ask, roughly how old are you?
07:55 <@Dolemite> 42
07:55 <@Bahhumbug> Heh, My lawn.  Get off :)
07:56  * Evilpig_ demands use of the button
07:56 <@Dolemite> Now if you live in Manchester, it certainly may seem like civilization to you
07:56 < Evilpig_> There are people that need to be made into holes.  I want a button to remove the stupidity from the planet via an internet vector
07:56 <@Dolemite> But I now live in Knoxville, and it *barely* qualifies as civilization
07:57 <@Bahhumbug> I moved to Manchester in late '00 from Chicago.
07:57 <@Bahhumbug> I also don't live _in_ the town, I live on a farm about 7 miles outside of the northern city limits.
07:57 <@Dolemite> it's all about perspective
08:05 <@Shadow404> anyone in the atlanta area looking for I.T. work or know of anyone?
08:06 <@Dolemite> Evilpig needs a job
08:06 <@Shadow404> he has one you goof
08:06 <@Dolemite> He has one he needs to leave
08:06 <@Shadow404> hrmm, good point
08:07 <@Shadow404> im looking for like newbie I.T. people
08:07 <@Shadow404> just coming into telco
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08:21 < Evilpig_> Good god I hate stupid people
08:21 < Evilpig_> We have a combined google group for both factions of ingress in nashville.  however it's a cesspool of trolls and they think the answer is migrate to a new name with a new set of moderators.
08:21 <@Bahhumbug> Turn them into food.
08:22 < Evilpig_> both groups are closed access, so I mock them and tell them they've learned nothing and they're just moving their problems and not addressing the issues.
08:23 <@Bahhumbug> They'd have to set themselves on fire to address the issues.  People are, for some reason, hesitant to do that.
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08:23 < Evilpig_> they tell me i'm wrong and to let them try.  then they used atlanta as an example of what they want.  so I mock them by linking the open combined community group in atlanta that has no rules displayed and I assume little moderation.  I didn't bother to really look I saw the button to allow me to join and that was enough to know what the deal was
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08:38 < Evilpig_> https://plus.google.com/u/0/106488599060135092837/posts/akKXRnZqCK1  I wish this wasn't a private thread
08:38 < GateKeeper> Title: Google+ (at plus.google.com)
08:38 < Evilpig_> Dagmar: chime in on that shit and mock them
08:40 < Evilpig_> assuming you wanted to play ingress in nashville, you don't have an account, and you want to join the local group to ask for an invite...  would you willingly or even be capable of filling this form out just to get to the group to see if you can even get an invite?  http://goo.gl/qVmRkW  open question to anyone
08:41 < GateKeeper> Title: Middle Tennessee Ingress Players Alliance Entry Form (at goo.gl)
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08:44 <@Dolemite> too much red
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08:45 <@wilpig> peacebyfire: authenticate
08:45 <@Shadow404> wtf is that?
08:45 <@wilpig> wtf is what?
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08:46 <@wilpig> I could easily use this channel as an example of an open group with little to no rules
08:47 <@jonny_X> b00bs
08:48 <@Bahhumbug> "no rules" applies because nearly everyone has ops.
08:48 <@Shadow404> jonny_X: melons
08:48 <@wilpig> exactly.  it's mob rule
08:48 <@Shadow404> i want my cut dammit
08:49 <@wilpig> if you act like an ass, odds are someone will boot you for the annoyance and the event/issue is dealt with.
08:49 <@Bahhumbug> mercster
08:49 <@jonny_X> Nah, gotta be "b00bs" (this was in reference to a discussion at the last 615-2600 meeting).
08:49 <@Bahhumbug> The other loudmouthed moron a couple years back.
08:49 <@wilpig> banned.  and you gotta admit before those few got their bans they had MANY chances to not act like shitbirds
08:49 <@Bahhumbug> cerkit.
08:49 <@Shadow404> jonny_X: ah
08:49 <@Shadow404> yeah, cerkit
08:50 <@Shadow404> that was a fun issue
08:50 <@jonny_X> Cerkit was ok, when he was on his meds.
08:50 <@wilpig> jonny_X: speaking of the last meeting, dolemite wants the pudding
08:50 <@Shadow404> wasnt he also an issue at the con too?
08:50 <@wilpig> he wasn't ever at the con, per my knowledge
08:50 <@Shadow404> ok
08:51 <@jonny_X> Dolemite has to make it to PN if he expects to get any pudding.
08:51 <@Shadow404> i still remember when rattle freaked out running down the halls
08:51 <@jonny_X> Which freakout was that?
08:51 <@wilpig> yeah lindsay, strip you cracked out whore
08:51 <@Shadow404> good point
08:51 <@jonny_X> (There are several from which to choose.)
08:52 <@Shadow404> the one i got to watch
08:52 <@Shadow404> pn 6 i think (my first)
08:52 <@Bahhumbug> I feel I've missed out on so much...
08:52 <@wilpig> you wont' this year
08:52 <@jonny_X> I don't remember him freaking out at that one.
08:52 <@wilpig>  /ban Bahhumbug missed phreaknic
08:53 <@jonny_X> "Strip you cracked out whore"?
08:53 <@Bahhumbug> Might as well get it out of the way now, then.  There isn't a high degree of probability that I will be there.
08:53 <@wilpig> jonny_X: watching something called "the canyons"
08:54 <@jonny_X> Ah.
08:54 <@Dolemite> They already posted stills of all of Linday's boobie shots, why put yourself through the movie?
08:54 <@wilpig> Dolemite: i'm betting on this will be boring enough to make me fall asleep
08:55 <@Dolemite> wilpig : That's a pretty safe bet
08:56 <@wilpig> need a time machine to make a before and after porn with lindsay lohan and tara reid.
08:56 <@Bahhumbug> You worry me.
08:56 <@wilpig> it will be the single greatest PSA in history!
08:57 <@jonny_X> Kinda like those "downward spiral" jpgs from (IIRC) rotten.com, eh?
08:58 <@wilpig> yeah
09:00 <@Bahhumbug> hah
09:02 <@wilpig> anyone ever heard of this?  let alone use it?  http://www.crushftp.com/features.html
09:02 < GateKeeper> Title: CrushFTP (at www.crushftp.com)
09:07 < peacebyfire> wiplig: did you need me for something?
09:09 <@wilpig> authenticate to nickserv
09:09 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig: it's an ftp server.  It should rot in the darkest abyss of the lowest level of the deepest plane in Hell..
09:09 <@Shadow404> or else you dont get your mob cut
09:09 <@Shadow404> Bahhumbug: that bad?
09:09 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: that has more than just ftp.  :P
09:10 <@Shadow404> i use ceaserftp
09:10 <@wilpig> I'm switching from serv-u
09:12 <@Bahhumbug> ftp sucks.
09:12 <@Bahhumbug> ftp sucked in the 80s.
09:12 <@Bahhumbug> It's not gotten any better since.
09:12 <@Shadow404> it still works in a pinch
09:12 <@Shadow404> if its setup right
09:13 <@Bahhumbug> Well, I take that back.
09:13 <@Bahhumbug> It sucks a little less now.
09:13 <@Bahhumbug> They tossed an SSL layed on it.
09:13 <@eryc> oh good, slower downloads
09:13 <@Bahhumbug> But to be fair, it still has its uses.
09:13 <@Bahhumbug> Oh good.  A troll.
09:14 <@eryc> oh good, an idiot
09:14 <@Bahhumbug> Pot?  Kettle?
09:14 <@eryc> complaining about something you don't know about
09:14 <@Bahhumbug> Hey shithead.  You going to Phreaknic this year?
09:14 <@eryc> yep
09:14 <@Bahhumbug> Oh good, then I guess I will go.
09:14 <@eryc> already got my tickets and room
09:14 <@Bahhumbug> I want to see if you have the balls to talk your shit in person.
09:15 <@wilpig> jonny_X: we need a kiddie pool and enough pudding to fill that fucker
09:15 <@Shadow404> meh, i say women and lube for the kiddie pool
09:16 <@Shadow404> but to each his own
09:22 <@Corydon76-home> I saw lube and kiddie in the same sentence and had a visceral reaction
09:22 <@eryc> madonna and child lube wrestling
09:22 <@eryc> get your tickets now folks, this is going to be big
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09:40 <@peacebyfire> wiplig: done. why?
09:41 <@wilpig> -!- mode/#se2600 [+o peacebyfire] by ChanServ
09:42 <@peacebyfire> well, I feel important now
09:42 <@peacebyfire> what did I miss Friday? I was busy getting bamboozled into buying a car
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09:47 <@Catonic> damn.
09:47 <@peacebyfire> good morning to you too
09:50 <@Catonic> I've enjoyed driving the grade at Monteagle on the way up
09:50 <@Catonic> but it was pretty classy going from a machine gun shoot to PN in the same weekend.
10:01 <@Shadow404> heh, monteagle was where i went for summer camp growing up
10:01 < Synx|hm_> i really really want to get a hackrf!
10:02 < Synx|hm_> this may provide the motivation to finally get my ARL
10:02 <@Shadow404> heh, yah, opens a whole new world of possibilities
10:02 <@Shadow404> got my arl 4 years ago
10:03 < Synx|hm_> ya i just need to do it
10:03 <@Shadow404> i passed it (barely) without any real studying
10:03 < Synx|hm_> should i just order a book on amazon or trying to contact my local ham group and get an old one for free?
10:03 <@Shadow404> basic rf concepts and simple reasoning is all thats required
10:03 <@Shadow404> go to a meeting
10:03 <@Shadow404> and ask for a book
10:03 <@Shadow404> they will probably lend one
10:03 < Synx|hm_> im an EE (though have not used my degree since i graduated 10 years ago haha)
10:04 <@Shadow404> yeh, that happens
10:04 < Synx|hm_> so i hope all that info comes back
10:04 <@Shadow404> it should, its not to advanced of a test
10:04 < Synx|hm_> sweet
10:04 <@Shadow404> though the next level up gets considerably harder
10:04 < Synx|hm_> thanks ill find a local group and goto a meeting :)
10:04 <@Shadow404> woot
10:04 <@Shadow404> now, Catonic's level is very complex
10:04 <@Shadow404> antenna concepts and detailed RF theory
10:05 < Synx|hm_> wonder if analbumcover is avail as a callsign
10:05 <@Shadow404> i think your limited to like six characters
10:06 < Synx|hm_> :)
10:06 <@Shadow404> i need to send an adress update still
10:07 <@Shadow404> i think ill do that now and get a new license printed
10:07 <@Shadow404> still has my old place
10:07 <@Catonic> Synx|hm_: you need to get a recent copy of the book, the pool changes ever 4 years
10:07 <@Shadow404> his local group should have it, right?
10:08 <@Shadow404> to borrow for a month or so
10:08 <@Catonic> however, if you have an EE, I'd recommend that you go ahead and study for the Extra test as well as General and Technician
10:08 <@Shadow404> yeah, all you need to get the tech is simple ohms law and rf theory
10:08 <@Catonic> The Extra isn't as hard as the GROL, but it has quite a bit of Electronics on it, X of C and X of L, etc. ELI the ICE man.
10:09 <@Catonic> Basically refreshed me on first year electronics in high school
10:09 <@Shadow404> heh, i had electronics every year of high school
10:11 <@Catonic> Oh lawd, I can't believe I've been in it as long as I have.
10:11 <@Shadow404> u keep saying that
10:12 <@Shadow404> btw, jpole is working great, i just hit a repeater 50+ miles away
10:13 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: thanks for the advice :)
10:15 < Synx|hm_> Catonic: do you have to re-test every so often?
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10:34 <@Shadow404> like 15 years
10:41 < Synx|hm_> ugh how the f can i convert wma to wav so i can use asterisk to convert to g729a
10:41 <@Shadow404> ok, so what do people think of verizon business in terms of sla?
10:42 <@Shadow404> looking at an ethernet ring service in atlanta
10:42 <@Shadow404> 10megs if that makes any differnce
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11:09 < Synx|hm_> Shadow404, Catonic: what books are needed for Tech? just the Q7A?
11:09 < Synx|hm_> Q7A
11:09 < Synx|hm_> ahh Q&A
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11:29 <@Shadow404> yep
11:41 < Synx|hm_> fuck
11:41 < Synx|hm_> baby might have pink eye
11:53 < Nexus__> thats never good, who was the asshole who farted on their pillow?
11:53 < Synx|hm_> it was probably him
11:53 < Synx|hm_> he has explosive farts and loves mashing his fingers/hands in his face
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11:58 < Nexus__> lol
11:58 < Nexus__> well that sucks the baby has pinkeye
11:59 < Synx|hm_> im just google dr'ing it
11:59 < Synx|hm_> but it sure looks like to to me, the wife doesn't think so though
11:59 < Synx|hm_> hes got a dr appt friday anyways (hes 2 weeks old)
12:01 < Nexus__> oh he is just a tiny thing then
12:09 <@Dagmar> So, probably his teeth aren't sharp enough to make it through an adult's skull to get to the brain then.
12:09 < Synx|hm_> not yet
12:09 < Synx|hm_> ;)
12:11 <@Dagmar> I gotta get RangerZ to start scraping Craiglist
12:11 < Nexus__> heh
12:11 <@Dagmar> He was askin me last night baout possibly buyin' a scooter because his commute is shorter than mine
12:12 <@Dagmar> I'm looking at like seven different ones for under $800
12:13 < Nexus__> i can not see RangerZ on a scooter
12:13 <@Dagmar> Perhaps you need to visualize the difference betweeen 25mpg and 80mpg
12:13 < Nexus__> true
12:14 <@critch> Or visualize 50mpg, with enough power to avoid the wreck, and tires that don''t disappear in pot holes
12:14 <@Dagmar> I paid about $2700 for mine.  It paid me back before two years was up
12:14 <@Dagmar> Nveer had a problem with potholes eating my tires
12:15 <@Dagmar> I'm not driving a vespa with roller-skate wheels on it tho
12:18 < Synx|hm_> what do you have?
12:22 < Nexus__> Dagmar: just after knowning RangerZ for so long, him on anything with two wheels is a funny thought
12:31 <@Dagmar> Synx: 2009 Kymco Agility 125
12:32 <@Dagmar> I will probably have it in a driveable state this weekend, otherwise I'm calling JP and throwing money at the problem
12:33 <@Dagmar> I've been dicking around with repainting farings instead of cleaning out the engine like I should have done two months ago
12:33 < Synx|hm_> plasti-dip!
12:33 <@Shadow404> hehe, i just fucked over someone that tried to lie there way out of a traffic accident
12:33 < Synx|hm_> paint it anything you want and remove it later while protecting the orig pain
12:34 <@Shadow404> he had no idea i was gonna be a witness till after i heard him start lying
12:37 <@Dagmar> Synx: I dunno about that.  The adhesive is really annoying
12:37 <@Dagmar> The can LIES
12:37 <@Dagmar> That shit is not sandable
12:38 <@Dagmar> ...but you can roll the edge up with your thumbs if you try and mostly peel it off, except for the damn adhesive
12:38 < Synx|hm_> oh i duno about sanding the stuff
12:38 <@Dagmar> Yeah the cans say it is, but that's crap
12:38 <@Dagmar> I tried.
12:38 <@Shadow404> your wet sanding right?
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12:38 < Synx|hm_> i've read nothing but rave reviews for painting cars/wheels/cycles with it though
12:38 < Synx|hm_> im considering changing color on my Triumph Thruxton
12:38 <@Dagmar> The finish is also slightly uneven
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12:39 <@Dagmar> For things you don't mind be flat-pervy-black-rubber it's great
12:39 <@Dagmar> It fuckin' redefines "one coat does it"
12:39 <@Shadow404> mmm, pervy black rubber
12:39 <@Shadow404> i vote for pervy rubber everything
12:39 <@Dagmar> The instrument-panel side of my scooter's dash is covered in it now
12:40 <@Shadow404> cool
12:40 <@Dagmar> Also, it puts an END to wasps.
12:40 <@Dagmar> Two of the little fuckers came around when I was painting the dash
12:40 <@Shadow404> your first problem is you ride a scooter
12:40 <@Shadow404> just saying
12:41 <@Dagmar> One little squirt and they were writing around on the balcony floor... for about the next ten seconds.
12:41 <@Dagmar> Rubber-coated wasps.
12:41 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: No, my first problem is that Metro doesn't allow mounted guns
12:42 <@Shadow404> you wouldnt be able to balance with mounted guns on a scooter
12:42 <@Shadow404> now a motorcycle, yes
12:42 <@Dagmar> Yes I would
12:42 <@Dagmar> Put one on each side... problem solved.
12:42 <@Dagmar> ...and that's mainly a matter of visual symmetry more than anything else.
12:43 <@Shadow404> heh
12:43 <@Shadow404> now my bike, you could easily mount the guns on
12:43 <@Shadow404> http://www.snsweather.com/motorcycle1.jpg
12:45 <@Dagmar> huh.  Looks like the 2013 model has even larger tires
12:45 <@Shadow404> 2013?
12:46 <@Shadow404> thats a 2001
12:46 <@Dagmar> Not your bike.  Kymco
12:46 <@Dagmar> Note these ain't exactly vespa tires http://www.heeters.com/images/Agility125.jpg
12:47 <@Dagmar> It looks like they went even bigger with the 2013s
12:47 <@Dagmar> Having been on some disposable viet-bikes and 50c Vespas, the bigger tires make a pretty massive difference
12:47 <@Dagmar> ...and note that there's plenty of room to mount guns on that thing
12:48 <@Shadow404> not really
12:48 <@Shadow404> but why a scooter?
12:48 <@Dagmar> 1. Cheap as fuck.
12:48 <@Dagmar> 2. Cheap as fuck.
12:48 <@Dagmar> 3. Gas mileage.
12:48 < Synx|hm_> do you have to insure?
12:48 <@Dagmar> 4. Fuck getting on the interstate with these goddamn hillbillies
12:49 <@Dagmar> I feel like I should be carrying an assault shotgun just going to work in the fucking morning sometimes
12:49 <@Dagmar> Synx: Yes.
12:49 <@Dolemite> It's not like a motorcycle on the interstate in Nashville is any better
12:49 <@Dagmar> Hence why I don't get on the damn interestate without being in a car
12:49 <@Dolemite> So I actually see logic in Dagmar's argument
12:49 < Synx|hm_> i had a jackass in a big lifted turbo diesel think it would be cool to smoke me out a few months back while i was on my bike :(
12:50 <@Dagmar> lol
12:50 <@Dolemite> But I don't think Dagmar is crazy enough to ride his scooter on a road trip, and road trips are the main reason to beef up the ride
12:50 <@Dagmar> Synx: That reminds me I need to re-up my policy
12:50 <@Dagmar> A whole $99 for the year
12:51 <@Dagmar> For some reason, scooter riders aren't known for getting carried away and flipping their bikes over
12:51 < Synx|hm_> ya i need to goto liability only on my moto as its paid off
12:51 <@Dagmar> I made sure I have medical
12:51 <@Dolemite> I do see scooters on the Dragon from time to time, though
12:51 < Synx|hm_> haha
12:51 <@Dagmar> I should consider finding someone with "legal" coverage
12:51 <@Dolemite> But people come camping up here and have the scooter on a trailer
12:52 < Synx|hm_> i've dont the dragon in my car with a subaru club but never on the bike :(
12:52 < Synx|hm_> s/dont/done
12:52 <@Dagmar> You can just about bet your ass if I have a wreck, the other driver is going to be unconcious when the cops arrive
12:52 <@Dolemite> I did the Dragon and Cherohala Skyway last Monday after work
12:52 <@Dolemite> I had a baaaaad case of blue skies fever
12:52 < Synx|hm_> lucky!!!
12:52 <@Dolemite> Cherohala Skyway is probably one of the most enjoyable rides around
12:52 < Synx|hm_> how long of a drive from nashville is the dragon?
12:53 <@Dagmar> dolemite: That depends
12:53 <@Dolemite> The Dragon is just 30 minutes of sheer technical riding
12:53 <@Dagmar> If you like off-roading, 1st Avenue/Lebanon Road towards Donelson was great for awhile
12:53 <@Dagmar> Like riding on the surface of a fucking asteroid
12:53 < Synx|hm_> i grew up in socali though and while the dragon rocks im not sure its that much better than some of the roads around malibu
12:53 <@Dolemite> Synx|hm_: My house to Nashville is 2.75 hours.  It's another 45 minutes to the Smoky Mountain Harley Davidson @ The Dragon.
12:54 < Synx|hm_> k
12:54 < Synx|hm_> i did some offroading in the suby while we were at the dragon too haha
12:54 <@Dolemite> I'm not into the technical so much.  Cherohala Skyway is 30+ miles of riding along a mountain ridge on a very well paved road with wide, sweeping curves and beautiful views.
12:54 < Synx|hm_> lost an undertray that weekend
12:54 <@Dolemite> And I needed my jacket in July.  It was about 58 F above 4,500 ft. elevation.
12:55 <@Shadow404> 1 through 3 is also valid for my motorcycle
12:55 <@Shadow404> 4, well i accept that to get anywhere
12:56 <@Dolemite> But from Deal's Gap there are a ton of great rides through the mountains.  Easy to go out Moonshiner's 28, Cherohala Skyway, Tail of the Dragon, Foothills Parkway, Cades Cove, Little River Road, Wears Valley, etc.
13:01 <@Shadow404> also, scooters are super easy to steal
13:01 <@Dolemite> So you're admitting that scooters are desireable?
13:02 <@Shadow404> for people to pawn yeah
13:03 <@Shadow404> harder to throw a 800+ pound motorcycle in a truck
13:03 <@Shadow404> with the front wheel locked to the side
13:03 <@Shadow404> almost any thief can pick up a scooter
13:04 <@Shadow404> the incident where i didnt like my tire at OZ that year when skydick moved my bike was my dumbassery to think people would respect my belogings
13:04 <@Shadow404> *lock
13:24 <@critch> Dolemite: Have you been on the Devils triangle, Starts in Oliver Springs?
13:25 <@Dolemite> critch: Not on a bike.  If you're not riding dual-sport, you want to stay away from it.  Lots of loose gravel and debris from the logging trucks up that way.
13:25 <@critch> I've done it quite a bit. I know the wisdom is to do it counterclockwise though.
13:28 <@Dolemite> Most of the folks around here that I know avoid the triangle on a cruiser or sport.  If they're going to do that area, they typically go up through Frozen Head State Park and take the back route up to Crossville.
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13:33 <@Dolemite> I need to do a Saturday ride down to Blue Ridge or Ellijay soon, see if I can get some old friends from the ATL to meet up with me
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13:42 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: score
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13:43 <@Shadow404> I would explain it to you, but all I'm all out of puppets and crayons.
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13:47 <@Shadow404> who is y_s and why does his connection keep dropping?
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13:54 <@Dagmar> becaue I haven't done this yet
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13:54 <@Shadow404> heh
13:54 <@Shadow404> so next time he drops
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13:55 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: ...which will probably be in the next ten minutes
13:55 <@Shadow404> or sooner
13:55 <@Dagmar> It's been going on for *most* of the last 24 hours off and on
14:05 <@Dagmar> Well...
14:05 <@Dagmar> https://vanderbilt.taleo.net/careersection/.vu_cs_in/jobsearch.ftl?lang=en&portal=4140492874&SID=16C064657AA8A009CD0039BC4338E89F68683AE9BD940024F082335DD197D566B74EFD3079AAF84D7565C4EEBBFFB44D9E364872433F483052973DA4BE5A9207815D0291425422BE8DD59F0C653474316E70BA69438E8A58A6EDABAB935742828988CC0B31D5CC5ACA99747DB04F1187F37ADE1858DCC98DEB57A096F4F669A6EC0253E1771FF4DC2EAD1D961DEDDB48BC93955E6B05FD00C20C339B849005BB2AEB8CDC00D4D57881A414D366598F0BFF8E75EB
14:05 < GateKeeper> Title: Access DeniedSearch Jobs | Work at Vanderbilt | Vanderbilt University (at vanderbilt.taleo.net)
14:05 <@Dagmar> fuck
14:05 <@Dagmar> THey finally listed Troy's position
14:05 <@Dagmar> ...and I see that EAI has listed a "Senior Linux System Administrator Enterprise" position
14:06 <@Dagmar> fuck it.  I'm going to apply for it.
14:09 <@oddball> Oh, did Troy leave?
14:10 < frsilent> hey fyi it's my first day on the job; ty all for the advice last weekish (dagmar/aestetix/rattle/Corydon/anyone_I_forgot); took the risk & really enjoying the environment so far
14:13 <@Dagmar> oddball: yes
14:15 <@Shadow404> frsilent: just remember, no sex with the boss's daughter, take it from me, bad idea
14:17 < Synx|hm_> fucking yubiradius ovf is so bloated with other rando debian shit
14:17 < Synx|hm_> and they said its 'hardened' haha
14:17 < Synx|hm_> its a fucking debian desktop default install with a few pam modules on top
14:18 <@Shadow404> haha, lazy fuckers
14:18 <@Dolemite> oddball : He's already moved to Dallas, TX
14:20 <@Shadow404> i <3 mind in a box and front line assembly remix's
14:22 < Synx|hm_> as an aside, using my yubikey in concert with activedirectory users to auth against my OpenVPN server is badass!
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14:32  * brimstone slugs Shadow404
14:32 <@brimstone> wilpig: you awake?
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14:33 <@Corydon76-home> I'll get him to start using screen.
14:37 <@Shadow404> no shit, thats annoying
14:37 <@Shadow404> brimstone: what did i do now?
14:37 <@brimstone> you know what you did
14:38 <@Corydon76-home> Fight!  Fight!  Fight!  Fight!
14:40 <@Shadow404> im sorry if she was your sister, well, no im not, that was a good fuck
14:40 <@brimstone> zing!
14:41 <@brimstone> i don't know who you're talking about, but i'm glad you had a good time
14:41 <@Shadow404> read above
14:41 <@Shadow404> 14:10 < frsilent> hey fyi it's my first day on the job; ty all for the advice
14:41 <@Shadow404>                   last weekish
14:41 <@Shadow404>                   (dagmar/aestetix/rattle/Corydon/anyone_I_forgot); took the
14:41 <@Shadow404>                   risk & really enjoying the environment so far
14:41 <@Shadow404> 14:13 <@Dagmar> oddball: yes
14:41 <@Shadow404> 14:15 <@Shadow404> frsilent: just remember, no sex with the boss's daughter,
14:41 <@Shadow404>                    take it from me, bad idea
14:41 <@brimstone> heh
14:42 <@Corydon76-home> So I take it brimstone's your boss, then?
14:42  * brimstone has no daughter
14:42 <@Corydon76-home> I was gonna say, she'd have to be 3 years old or less, Shadow, you sick fuck.
14:43 <@Shadow404> i know, right
14:43 <@Shadow404> brimstone: i said sister
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14:43 <@Shadow404> brimstone will never be my boss
14:44 <@Corydon76-home> brimstone:  good choice, never hiring Shadow
14:44 <@brimstone> yeah, no kidding?
14:44 <@Shadow404> shit speaking f
14:44 <@Shadow404> *of
14:44 <@Shadow404> a co-worker and I got new jobs and put our notice in and now the rest of the team is quitting
14:45 <@Shadow404> so our project will probably get scrapped
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14:46 <@Shadow404> oh shit, this is intriguing, apollo guidance computer explanation
14:46 <@Shadow404> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBhPsyYCiM
14:46 < GateKeeper> Title: Computer for Apollo - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:50 <@Shadow404> wow, actual ferrite memory core wire bundles
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14:57 < Synx|hm_> watching now, neat
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14:58 <@Shadow404> just to think, that all of the stuff you see in this video can all be contained in a single arduino memory
14:58 <@Shadow404> heh
14:58 <@Shadow404> with tons of room to spare
14:58 <@brimstone> just need to harden the arduino against solar baddies
14:58 <@Shadow404> i dont know how far the apollo program went, but yes, now adays yes
14:59 < Synx|hm> oh shit celnav
14:59 < Synx|hm> i guess i should have figured they used celnav
14:59 < Synx|hm> some aircraft still have auto celnav
15:00 <@Shadow404> pretty old, but working technology
15:00 <@Shadow404> loran was the next step for land/water based navigation after celnav
15:00 <@Shadow404> then gps
15:00 < Synx|hm> ya we have a sextant in the B-52 but they stopped teaching it years ago so i never got to learn :(
15:01 < Synx|hm> i keep wanting to talk to the maint folks (we have to keep the origional sextant equipment to send back with the jet when it goes to the boneyard) so i can try and mess with it when ive got some free time
15:01 < Synx|hm> the INS's we had when i first started flying where the same used in the spaceshuttle
15:02 < Synx|hm> we've since been 'upgraded' more reliable but not as accurate, to ring laser INUs
15:02 <@Shadow404> yeah
15:03 <@Shadow404> omg, did you see the assembly line they use to build the modules
15:03 < Synx|hm> not that far in yet
15:03 <@Shadow404> fuck, so many errors prone compared to teh automated system we use now
15:03 <@Shadow404> yeah, you will boggle at that
15:03 <@Shadow404> all by hand
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15:04 <@Corydon76-home> Wow, I didn't think it was possible, but someone found a site that made my skin crawl
15:04 < Y_S> link?
15:04 <@Corydon76-home> You don't want that link
15:05 < Y_S> Jajaaa
15:05 <@Corydon76-home> https://laboutiquebleue.webbleu.net/info.html
15:05 < Y_S> two guys one donkey?
15:05 <@Corydon76-home> Far worse
15:08 < Synx|hm> kinky kelly and the sexy stud
15:10 <@Corydon76-home> Pendants for pedophiles, accompanied by testimonials from "satisfied customers"
15:10 <@brimstone> hey, just because he wanted to know doesn't mean i wanted to know
15:11 < Synx|hm> why the fuck did i click that then :(
15:11 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, made your skin crawl, too, eh?
15:11 < Synx|hm> well i couldn't read it and am not on chrome so didnt bother to translate
15:11 < Synx|hm> i just thought it was some sort of custom wedding ring thing
15:12 <@Corydon76-home> It's a wedding ring, only in a very sick, twisted way
15:12 <@Shadow404> 65k bits on 1 mile of wire
15:12 <@Shadow404> heh
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15:16 < Synx|hm> holy shit haha this is like breadboarding their guidance system
15:16 < Y_S> I'm a sick 22-26yrOldOphile sooo twisted ;-)
15:18 <@Shadow404> Synx|hm: scary, could you imagine trusting your life on this equipment?
15:18 < Synx|hm> yikes
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15:25 <@Shadow404> wire wrap memory cores, wow
15:25 <@Shadow404> thats how we got the moon
15:25 < Synx|hm> ya wirewrap wtf
15:51 < aestetix_> vagina
15:52 < FNG> o/
15:54 <@Shadow404> exactly
15:55 <@Shadow404> vagina is the right term to explain that
15:57 < aestetix_> yep
15:57 < aestetix_> vagina explains a lot of things, actually
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16:11 <@Corydon76-home> Not as much as big hot pulsating cock explains.
16:12 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: I'd like to think they explain the same thing from a different perspective
16:12 <@Corydon76-home> Not at all.  You're discounting the men who only like cock
16:14 < aestetix_> fair enough
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17:08 <@Shadow404> so was watching apollo 13 movie with my gal last night
17:08 <@Shadow404> and thought this was interesting how good of a job they did casting the mission controller
17:08 <@Shadow404> http://www.snsweather.com/genekranz_edharris.jpg
17:18 <@Catonic> Synx|hm: no retest, just the books works.
17:19 <@Shadow404> i passed first time, no real studying, just look at question pool
17:19 <@Shadow404> and got the basics
17:23 <@Shadow404> but you being an EE, the applied math for ohm's law will be a sinch
17:26 <@Catonic> Synx|hm: the question pool is on-line, but most of the bits are explained in several books... Gordon West publishes several of those.
17:26 < Synx|hm> thanks
17:26 <@Catonic> Synx|hm: there are also on-line tests you can take to practice as well
17:26 <@Catonic> 70% pass requirement, no morse code required.
17:27 <@Catonic> I never memorized the bands very well, so naturally, I upgraded to extra as soon as possible.
17:27 <@Shadow404> like i said, i got 84% and no real studying other than refresh some concepts
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17:28 <@Catonic> well, I had a CSCE for General, but the change hadn't come into effect yet, but by the time the hamfest came around, it had and the local club picked up the fee for every test given that day
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17:28 <@Catonic> Paid $6 for the first test; $8 or $10 for the second, and the third was free thanks to that club.
17:28 <@Catonic> Renewals, change of address, etc.... free.
17:29 <@Catonic> my license expires on 4/20... LOL.
17:29 < Synx|hm> ;)
17:29 <@Shadow404> nicew, i still got 5 years
17:30 <@Catonic> Still accepting that I have renewed twice. O_O.
17:30 < Synx|hm> the MARS operators are awesome btw, ive used them a bunch of deployment sorties to do morale calls
17:30 < Synx|hm> HF
17:30 <@Catonic> Ah, I'd heard MARS was still around but I didn't know if they were still doing the morale thing
17:31 < Synx|hm> yup
17:31 < Synx|hm> at least they always did for me
17:31 < Synx|hm> used em a number of times for official DSN calls too
17:31 < Synx|hm> hell i setup 2 hours of morale calls for my entire crew as we were coasting in over westcoast on my last deployment return
17:32 < Synx|hm> haha
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17:32 <@Catonic> yeah, good idea... it does take time...
17:32 <@Catonic> I suppose some travel by commercial flight, but when a B-52 or a C-130 or a C-5 has to go somewhere... it may as well carry something.
17:33 <@Catonic> Shadow404: we have two runways here, 6/24 and 18/36... 5 MPH wind at 360 the other day...
17:33 <@Shadow404> nice
17:34 <@Catonic> my friend called me wondering why the planes kept buzzing the subway...
17:34 < Synx|hm> well we dont cary much in the BUFF, tiny crew compartment and will all our deployment gear and shit its typically about 7-8 people max on those long flights
17:34 <@Shadow404> whats the airport code?
17:34 <@Catonic> KBHM
17:34 <@Shadow404> once i get the 172 up and running ill drop by
17:34 <@Catonic> shoot, we're about a $100 hamburger away.
17:34 <@Shadow404> thats a good size airport
17:34 <@Shadow404> yeah
17:34 < Synx|hm> we have enough seatbelts and oxygen/interphone hookups for 10 max, but only 6 ejection seats
17:35 < Synx|hm> and at 10 it fucking sucks way too crowded
17:35 <@Shadow404> kryy and kbhm is pretty close
17:35 <@Shadow404> you can contact me on the way there on your radio
17:37 <@Catonic> wow
17:37 <@Catonic> ten in one of those would be a bit packed
17:38 <@Catonic> Synx|hm: the though occurred to me that a B-52 going between point A and point B would probably be taking care of "other" storage capacity as required... though ordinance is probably shipped by ship, rather than flown around.
17:39 <@Catonic> wait, what kind of 172?
17:39 <@Shadow404> Catonic: about 1hr 2min per garmin flight computer
17:40 <@Shadow404> cruise of 172
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17:40 < Synx|hm> Catonic: depends, we can ferry ordinance, but anything external adds huge amounts of drag to our already terrible fuel burn (clean jet 20-22Klbs per hour)
17:40 <@Shadow404> theres an app i can load an sd card with the flight plan and weather just before take off
17:41 < Synx|hm> but ya, not saying i haven't seen it happen before
17:41 < aestetix_> man
17:42 < aestetix_> I guess the washington post is going on the wayside
17:44 <@Catonic> Shadow404: so you're flying now?
17:46 <@Catonic> Synx|hm: but yeah, the ARL is a public sort of document, so the question pools, etc. are out there
17:47 <@Catonic> keep copies of your CSCEs; should you let the license expire, you can get it re-instated sometimes just by faxing a copy in.
17:47 <@Shadow404> Catonic: yah, dad bought a cessna 172 and its just finishing overhaul.
17:47 <@Shadow404> he got licensed as an instructor
17:47 <@Shadow404> so gonna start flight school and do my ground once i get into the new job
17:48 <@Catonic> lots of guys did that... dig up an old Element 1 CSCE and bring it in to show competency with Morse code so they didn't have to learn it again or retest
17:48 <@Catonic> Shadow404: I would have thought that your father was an instructor a LONG time ago.
17:48 <@Catonic> nice... you get to spend time with dad, and learn how to fly for cheap or free. ;)
17:49 <@Shadow404> very cheap
17:49 <@Shadow404> but not free
17:49  * Catonic shakes his fist at the IRS
17:49 <@Shadow404> heh
17:49 <@Catonic> If you could fast track from that to the other bird... now that would be an experience.
17:50 <@Catonic> but you probably don't fit the cabin well
17:50 <@Catonic> OTOH, you'd be a shoe-in for Chewbacca at any sci-fi con
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17:51 <@Shadow404> http://www.snsweather.com/cessna172.jpg
17:51 <@Shadow404> in the 172 comfortable
17:51 <@Catonic> or we could paint you brown and make you into Kyle from South Park for that one episode where Gerald became a dolphin.
17:51 <@Shadow404> but not a 152
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17:52 <@Shadow404> just need to check out the engine for a couple of full power runs
17:52 <@Catonic> Ah, so it's in glider mode now. XD
17:52 <@Shadow404> and then we can do the first flight
17:52 <@Shadow404> yeah
17:52 <@Catonic> no, it's there... just the cowling isn't.
17:52 <@Shadow404> ill be on ground with my vx-7r
17:52 <@Shadow404> talking to dad
17:52 <@Shadow404> cowling yes
17:52 <@Shadow404> we re-did the insulation post pic
17:53 <@Catonic> I've looked into flying before, and we're in a decent enough spot for it... cost though.
17:53 <@Catonic> IIRC the VX-7r doesn't transmit am
17:53 <@Shadow404> yeah it does
17:53 <@Shadow404> .....
17:53 <@Catonic> I will share what I learned from another ham...
17:53 <@Shadow404> ....
17:54 <@Shadow404> i had to modify
17:54 <@Catonic> take an inspection panel, drill it out, and put a BNC barrel connector on it. Then you can run coax from the inspection cover to the radio, and put a 19" whip on the underside of the airplane
17:54 <@Shadow404> bleh, yeah, that will work
17:55 <@Shadow404> but i would just use a car antenna
17:55 <@Catonic> 1/4-wave antenna gives you -3dB points between 3 degrees and 87 degrees
17:55 <@Catonic> 10,000 ft gives you line of sight to... everything :)
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17:55 <@Shadow404> and squish the antenna on to the door franme and insulate the antenna from the frame
17:55 <@Shadow404> i used electrical tape
17:55 <@Shadow404> worked well
17:56 <@Shadow404> heard tower from 20 miles away with a quarter wave whip
17:56 <@Catonic> no need to use anything other than a 1/4-wave because you don't want to directionalize and you don't want to contribute to drag
17:56 <@Shadow404> yep, it was streamline hanging out the door
17:56 <@Shadow404> no damage after flight, worked well
17:56 <@Catonic> putting the antenna on the belly also keeps it seperated from the other antennas used for VOR, Comm, etc.
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17:56 <@Shadow404> would, but would require a more permanent install
17:57 <@Shadow404> i want to keep the stock antenna's and holes
17:57 <@Shadow404> so vx-7r will only be a temp add on
17:57 <@Catonic> nah, just buy an extra inspection cover. And since your father owns the aircraft, the coax can be permanetly installed rather than quick-remove.
17:57 <@Shadow404> maybe
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17:58 <@Catonic> he'll probably run across another ham at some point.
17:58 <@Catonic> or it can be used as an RX-only backup antenna.
18:00 <@Catonic> Another cheap radio to look at is some of the Chinese radios..
18:01 <@Catonic> they have a $250 or $300 mobile dual-band radio that does damn near everything, and it's Part 90 accepted, so it CAN be used on commercial frequencies.
18:01 <@Shadow404> dude, yeah, super cheap, super awesome radios
18:01 <@Shadow404> dx.com
18:01 <@Catonic> Baofeng? Something like that.
18:01 <@Catonic> $50 radio..
18:01 <@Shadow404> yeah, but do your research
18:01 <@Catonic> I can buy a nice radio and worry about it... or I can buy a cheap one and not worry about it.
18:01 <@Shadow404> treat it like shit
18:01 <@Shadow404> and move on
18:02 <@Catonic> Of course, I've got more than $50 into my Saber, but my Saber was built in 1995.
18:02 <@Catonic> The usual is some ARES member uses it as a "grab n go" radio, so that when they drop it in mud, leave it somewhere, or run over it, they are just out $50.
18:02 <@Catonic> My first radio, in 1993 was $339.
18:03 <@Shadow404> yeah, screw that
18:03 <@Shadow404> one band?
18:04 <@Catonic> $548.52 today.
18:04 <@Catonic> Alinco DJ-162. I still have it, somewhat disassembled somewhere.
18:05 <@Catonic> I think the Lithium battery went dead in it, and I soldered a replacement on in. I don't think it worked after that.
18:05 <@Shadow404> thermally destroyed it?
18:05 <@Catonic> One of my other projects ... and Synx|hm you'll appreciate this... has been to interface a David Clark H10-76 headset to an Android phone.
18:06 <@Catonic> did NOT know what I was getting myself into when I started that one.
18:06 <@Catonic> I think I blew the project budget about $100.
18:06 < Synx|hm> Catonic: sweet, ya ive been wanting to build an interface to my milstd david clarks for a while so i dont have to pipe my music into the interphone system on the jet
18:07 <@Catonic> the mic is 5-ohms, and the headset speakers are like 10-ohms... so it mates well with the headset side... but the mic side needs transformers and gain.
18:07 <@Shadow404> (i will never overlay music on the interphone)
18:07 <@Shadow404> just safety issue all over the place
18:07 <@Shadow404> rather be focused on all the maths
18:07 <@Catonic> of course, Gen Aviation uses TOTALLY different impedances for both.
18:07 < Synx|hm> Shadow404: its on a selectable hot-talk channel that can be dialed down or toggeled off
18:07 < Synx|hm> what the f'else am i going to do on a 24hr sortie ;)
18:08 <@Catonic> Synx|hm: those interfaces are like $500... because it's a lot of EE time to fix the problem
18:08 <@Shadow404> well, yeah, but a 172 is far less automated
18:08 <@Shadow404> i have to do the fuel maths and nears airport trackign myself
18:08 < Synx|hm> oh i promise you that 172 is far more advanced haha
18:08 <@Shadow404> wtf, than a jet?
18:08 < Synx|hm> than the b-52 interphone panel ya im sure
18:09 <@Catonic> Here's the notes... drive the headset speakers like you normally would for an audio device, and the mic needs an 8-ohm to 1Kohm transformer from Radio Shack, and about 20dB of gain on top of that
18:09 < Synx|hm> this shit is early 50's tech in a jet made early 60
18:09 <@Catonic> If you have a carbon mike, you'll have to go a different direction. Mine is dynamic.
18:09 < Synx|hm> now our weapons stuff ya that gets upgraded but the interphone or steam guages for the engines haha nope
18:10 <@Catonic> Why did I buy it? Well... Ever tried to take a phone call with both hands under a Dell M1000e blade chassis at the back?
18:10 <@Catonic> People did not understand why I was hanging up on them... I did not have enough signal to noise to be able to hear the phone's audio.
18:10 <@Catonic> UG-174 connector?
18:11 < aestetix_> http://i.imgur.com/keYuffp.jpg nsfw
18:11 <@Catonic> "UG-174/U"
18:11 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: disturbed, thx
18:11 <@Catonic> I picked up a NIB milsurp U-94A/U, and started reverse engineering...
18:12 <@Catonic> figured I could put a sealed switch into the headset, use the ground wire for the earphones as a right-channel lead, and jumper from the ground on the mic.
18:13 <@Catonic> Linear makes the LT1028, but it is $10 in single quantities, and the H10-76 doesn't need that sort of precision unless you're selling the product to the military.
18:14 <@Catonic> Trying to mate that to TRRS has been a bitch as well. Because the droid's signalling isn't the same as others and documentation, etc. is bereft
18:15 <@Catonic> and I'd rather tie into the interphone than switch headset..
18:15 <@Catonic> The other part of this project was to be able to switch between the droid and the Motorola Saber... and all of the above have unique requirements.
18:16 <@Catonic> 19-ohm speakers.
18:17 <@Catonic> Synx|hm: easist way to do it is to get that PTT adapter, and just "mono-ize" the output from the MP3 player
18:17 <@Catonic> aestetix_: christ man, when you say NSFW, you MEAN it.
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18:18 < Synx|hm> Catonic: basically what i did and put a 10k ohm on it to keep the jet from trying to imped match... then i leave it on the hottalk input
18:18 <@Catonic> Shadow404: another way is to get a switch box with enough inputs.
18:18 <@Shadow404> ah, ok
18:18 < Synx|hm> drains a bit more battery with the 10k ohm but keeps bass from causing the interphone to go crazy
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18:20 <@Catonic> the headset I'm using, which is apparently ex-military, is commonly used in helos... but the audio is ... well, it leaves a lot to be desired. Everything sounds like the TV traffic guy up in the helo without the beating noise in the background.
18:21 <@Catonic> not familiar with the term "hottalk"
18:21 <@Catonic> so the mic input went to the airframe and you just worried about the earphones?
18:22 < Synx|hm> Catonic: we have a hot talk feature so that you dont have to 'key' the mic to talk, if you toggle up hot talk you are always live over the interphone (it does not go out a radio) and people on the jet can toggle up 'hot listen'
18:22 <@Catonic> Shadow404: http://www.bluefeathertech.com/kc7gr/thevan.html bruce used an aircraft comm panel to route the audio for his radio stack.
18:22 < GateKeeper> Title: The TechMobile, Phases 1-4 (at www.bluefeathertech.com)
18:24 <@Catonic> ah, that makes sense. I wondered how that was done, assumed it was an on-vehicle audio bridge
18:25 <@Catonic> this is going to make a lot more sense as to how the headset was used.
18:25 <@Shadow404> Catonic: old article
18:25 <@Shadow404> still using streetatlas
18:26 <@Catonic> he's got updates, but I don't know if he's reimplementing
18:26 <@Catonic> Everything before Astro is obsolete now, and much of Astro is absolete as well
18:29 <@Catonic> I picked up one of the Nuvi-350s and have it in the car with an OpenTracker+. Of course, I never go far from home these days.
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18:36 <@Catonic> damn, I need not be reading about this at this time in the day
18:36 <@Catonic> my ADD is at peak...
18:42 <@Catonic> oh, but the best part I got on the headset I got... was that it was outfitted with a few covers and what not.
18:43 <@Catonic> Also, I don't remember what I used but something will remove the paint.
18:43 <@Catonic> Benzene?
18:47 < Y_S> http://www.servermania.com/ssd-linux-vps-hosting.htm
18:47 < GateKeeper> Title: SSD Linux VPS Virtual Private Server Web Hosting - Servermania (at www.servermania.com)
18:47 < Y_S> anybody use them?
18:48 <@Catonic> M1/DC kit.
18:53 <@wilpig> bah.  left my thumbdrive at home
18:56 <@Catonic> 24 dB NRR, so my headphones for shooting are better.
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19:41 <@wilpig> LastChild: she wants the d.  LOL
19:41 <@LastChild> bastard
19:41 <@wilpig> it was funny and you know it
19:42 <@LastChild> dependent on where your standing
19:44 <@LastChild> Brought the Darkman trilogy tonight for work.
19:44 <@wilpig> i'm standing here laughing at you squirming at the thought.  lol
19:45 <@LastChild> LALALALALALA
19:48 <@Shadow404> im standing here watching you squirm
19:48 <@Shadow404> you know, im thinking about my last week, and my first day inthe office this week is tomorrow
19:48 <@Shadow404> and i keep reminding myself not to give a fuck, cause my work performance doesnt mean shit since im moving on
20:38 <@wilpig> padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;  <-- makes the baby jesus cry
20:41 <@brimstone> makes me cry
20:42 <@brimstone> wilpig: does openDCIM have a way to view all assets belonging to a department?
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20:42 <@wilpig> yes but not in the version you have probably
20:42 <@wilpig> use the advanced search and pick "by owner"
20:43 <@brimstone> i'm a few weeks behind, i'll update tomorrow then
20:43 <@wilpig> if you have the github from then then you will have it
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20:43 <@brimstone> ok, advanced search by owner then, thanks
20:43 <@wilpig> There is also a report by owner 
20:44 <@wilpig> I wanna say it is under reports -> asset reports
20:45 <@brimstone> but that makes a pdf right?
20:45 <@brimstone> not a web view?
20:45 <@wilpig> for now.
20:45 <@brimstone> k
20:45 <@wilpig> it's gonna get converted over to an exportable version
20:45 <@brimstone> pdfs are for management
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22:27  * Dagmar smacks forehead
22:27  * Dagmar emails co-worker about idempotence
22:29 <@Dagmar> Hes' wanting to direct all the wordpress/drupal/whatever editing queries to one server in the cluster and I keep forgetting to tell him we can probably start by filtering all POST requests to the one node
22:29 <@Dagmar> ...just because GETs are supposed to be idempotent and POSTs aren't required for that
22:29 <@Dagmar> It *should* handle all the _correctly written_ software
22:30  * Catonic drinks
22:30 <@Catonic> Bingo.
22:31 <@Catonic> my brain has just left the building
22:31 <@Catonic> I should follow it.
22:33 <@wilpig> bring back whores
22:38 <@Dagmar> You could probably stand to go easier on Allensworth
22:38 <@Dagmar> I agree with you in that they _will_ fail
22:38 <@Dagmar> However, they're still learning about assholes and audiences
22:39 <@Dagmar> Once they've failed a second time, THEN they're going to be very interested in listening to us
22:39 <@wilpig> My point is they have people with experience in this realm and they aren't tapping that resource.  they're plowing ahead despite evidence contrary to their goal
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22:39 <@Dagmar> Terry and some of the others think they understand the problem that made things come apart
22:40 <@wilpig> I was amused at the realization that their founders don't agree on what they are even wanting as well
22:40 <@Dagmar> I explained it to him in detail, and he's _going_ to see that I knew exactly what I was talking about when those same patterns re-remerge
22:41 <@Dagmar> The rules-lawyering in particular I'm sure he'll see happening immediatley following the first gratuitous trollery festival
22:41 <@wilpig> oh for sure
22:42 <@Dagmar> ...although I'm more and more tempted to just say screw the game and show them what _real_ cheating does
22:42 <@wilpig> heh.  tempting.
22:43 <@Dagmar> Unless they want to get super-sneaky about it and say, risk pissing off packet reassembling routers by sending IO in a manner that looks like random buffering, it's not like I couoldn't perfectly emulate the client in a few day's of poking around
22:45 <@Dagmar> Of course, learning to type like I'm not a fucking walking meme might take longer.
22:45 <@Dagmar> I'm not even going to bother to try to correct all those.
22:45 <@wilpig> I got ya
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22:57 <@wilpig> if you've ever wanted to hear hugh laurie say "Coochie juice" check out the daily show tonight
22:58 <@wilpig> err make that the colbert report
23:08 <@Catonic> lol
23:17 <@Catonic> ok, I got whores. Well, had them.
23:17 <@Catonic> Dagmar: can't you just get a quick scan from the Hoff's company to cause all sorts of havok with the app instead?
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