2013-07-24T00:02:35 holy fuck 2013-07-24T00:02:43 no wonder I'm sweating just sitting here 2013-07-24T00:02:49 79 degrees in here 2013-07-24T00:03:09 I turned the AC/heater fan off last night while cleaning vents, etc 2013-07-24T00:03:16 and forgot to put it back on 2013-07-24T01:16:06 http://maradydd.livejournal.com/528620.html 2013-07-24T01:16:07 Title: maradydd: You're forgetting one thing, Mr. Obama. (at maradydd.livejournal.com) 2013-07-24T01:16:11 RangerZ: you'll appreciate this 2013-07-24T01:16:37 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/17454123916/irony-alert-obama-opposes-amash-amendment-because-its-blunt-approach-not-product-open-process.shtml 2013-07-24T01:16:38 Title: Irony Alert: Obama Opposes Amash Amendment Because It's A 'Blunt Approach' And Not A Product Of 'Open' Process | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com) 2013-07-24T01:16:59 yeah.... 2013-07-24T01:17:00 saw that 2013-07-24T01:18:14 aestetix_: you seen The Newsroom? 2013-07-24T01:18:17 from HBO? 2013-07-24T01:18:33 actually, I HIGHLY recommend the show to everyone 2013-07-24T01:18:49 its highly intellectual, and the best TV i've seen in years 2013-07-24T01:18:56 (including the dr who I've watched) 2013-07-24T01:19:18 (which for who'ers, isn't all of it, just random eps here and there) 2013-07-24T01:19:24 Nope. 2013-07-24T01:19:27 I've heard it's good 2013-07-24T01:19:29 you should 2013-07-24T01:19:41 it made me think about getting back into politics 2013-07-24T01:19:46 Heh. 2013-07-24T01:19:51 and actually running this time myself 2013-07-24T01:19:53 I'm actually thinking about getting into some of that. 2013-07-24T01:20:02 (I spent last night hanging out with EFF lawyers) 2013-07-24T01:20:22 aestetix_: pm 2013-07-24T01:24:57 so 2013-07-24T01:24:59 silly quesetion 2013-07-24T01:25:15 Does this latest white house statement constitute attempting to influence legislation? 2013-07-24T01:25:31 since i thought the president wasn't allowed to do that 2013-07-24T01:26:20 yes he is 2013-07-24T01:26:39 the fucking 'budget' HAS to be written by the president 2013-07-24T01:26:44 which is a FUCKING STUPID law 2013-07-24T01:26:49 but 'ehh' 2013-07-24T02:01:50 *** spaceB0x_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T02:04:28 *** spaceB0x has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-24T02:04:29 *** eryc has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-07-24T02:07:15 *** eryc has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T02:07:15 *** eryc has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T02:07:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o eryc 2013-07-24T02:29:34 *** eryc has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-07-24T02:29:34 *** eryc has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T02:29:35 *** eryc has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T02:29:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o eryc 2013-07-24T04:06:49 Dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUWqRhReaZk pixelgod 2013-07-24T04:06:49 Title: MS Paint Car - Pixelgod II - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-07-24T04:07:50 the guy draws detailed car shots in mspaint (classic youtube video by now) i'm sure you've seen it, but ms GOOD artists can use any medium, lol 2013-07-24T04:23:02 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/05523623899/final-fantasy-fan-film-kickstarter-project-apparently-with-square-enixs-tacit-approval.shtml holy shit SE doing something right... 2013-07-24T04:23:03 Title: Final Fantasy Fan Film Kickstarter Project, Apparently With Square Enix's Tacit Approval | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com) 2013-07-24T04:23:07 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ffviiwebseries/final-fantasy-vii-the-web-series-unofficial-fan-pr 2013-07-24T04:23:08 Title: Final Fantasy VII: The Web Series (Unofficial Fan Project) by Shinra Productions LLC Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com) 2013-07-24T04:27:26 *** Vyrus001 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-24T04:28:14 *** MinecraftRelay has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-24T04:30:02 *** Vyrus001_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T04:30:30 *** MinecraftRelay has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T06:56:38 Dagmar: I know two of the places handler is spoofing and collecting XM from 2013-07-24T06:57:01 I've seen it too many times now for it to be a coincidence 2013-07-24T07:14:44 Dagmar: note the missing XM in the red box. http://i.imgur.com/4ZKrwjf.jpg The yellow box is the alternate location I see it disappear from randomly at night. always those same two spots though. 2013-07-24T07:29:01 *** Dolemite has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T07:29:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dolemite 2013-07-24T07:29:02 mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 2013-07-24T07:30:39 no u 2013-07-24T07:32:18 dolemite you just missed me pointing out I am onto one of our gps spoofing cheaters. just a matter of time now 2013-07-24T07:32:34 yes, really. u! 2013-07-24T07:32:44 Evilpig: Aha. Damn cheaters. 2013-07-24T07:33:07 http://i.imgur.com/4ZKrwjf.jpg 2013-07-24T07:33:18 see the empty spot that I drew the red box around 2013-07-24T07:34:12 Peabody traffic circle? 2013-07-24T07:34:20 that's the lawn 2013-07-24T07:34:29 fine arts building on the north end of it there 2013-07-24T07:34:39 Well, yeah, right smack in the middle of where they set up a graduation tent 2013-07-24T07:34:43 me in the hill center where I took the screen shot. yeah 2013-07-24T07:34:52 If you're seeing square blocks of XM disappearing, just report it to Niantic as a bug 2013-07-24T07:34:59 ...or do a force sync of the client. 2013-07-24T07:34:59 there was nobody out there. hasn't been for hours. it happens a few times a night 2013-07-24T07:35:09 always that same spot 2013-07-24T07:35:11 That's weird 2013-07-24T07:35:17 For XM to disappear in a _square_ shape sounds like a Maps API failure 2013-07-24T07:35:22 and always a square 2013-07-24T07:35:42 ...but... reporting it as a bug will get Niantic to investigate 2013-07-24T07:35:50 I'm almost willing to bet that yellow one is gonna be the same size I just need to watch it a little longer to be sure 2013-07-24T07:36:03 ...and if some engineer investigates and finds a _client_ is doing that... b-b-b-b-b-anned! 2013-07-24T07:36:14 Your third icon over from the left on the status bar... is that supposed to be Homer Simpson running after a donut? 2013-07-24T07:36:24 it is 2013-07-24T07:36:37 pedometer? 2013-07-24T07:36:45 *** spaceB0x_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-24T07:36:46 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ea.game.simpsons4_na 2013-07-24T07:37:07 nothing that useful. quite the time sink really 2013-07-24T07:38:28 OMG. Must... Resist... 2013-07-24T07:38:43 you've already clicked install. don't lie 2013-07-24T07:44:50 and Dagmar after a force sync that rectangular area is still barren. 2013-07-24T08:03:02 Definitely report it as a bug, then 2013-07-24T08:03:37 I'm going to. Just gonna collect a few more screenshots and times to go with them to fill in the report so it isn't just somethig they'll skip over 2013-07-24T08:07:59 and another class rewritten. what a pita 2013-07-24T08:24:33 which one? 2013-07-24T09:37:07 stuff for the logbook 2013-07-24T09:37:14 cause I have to convert all of that over as well 2013-07-24T09:42:08 btw watching a crazy movie. "Only God Forgives" still not sure what's going on 2013-07-24T09:50:09 *** benthemeek has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T09:50:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o benthemeek 2013-07-24T10:06:20 *** FNG has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T10:06:34 Blahhh... whas my BIOS password? 2013-07-24T10:07:37 Time to disconnect and go do some auditing 2013-07-24T10:07:45 later 2013-07-24T10:07:49 *** Dolemite has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-07-24T10:07:49 o/ 2013-07-24T10:43:00 *** brimstone has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-24T10:51:19 *** brimstone has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T10:51:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o brimstone 2013-07-24T10:57:29 *** K4k has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T11:03:18 *** FNG has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-07-24T11:35:39 All your Macs are belong to me. 2013-07-24T11:50:47 *** RangerZ1 has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T12:26:53 *** RangerZ1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-24T12:43:36 Anybody running a Unix database under vmware in production? 2013-07-24T12:44:49 *** critch1 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-24T12:48:26 *** critch has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T12:48:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o critch 2013-07-24T13:09:17 Corydon76-work: Often. 2013-07-24T13:09:57 rattle: I assume you're using Linux, correct? 2013-07-24T13:17:03 I've done Linux with Postgres and MySQL, as well as MSSQL on W2k8. 2013-07-24T13:17:26 Like anything in the VM world.. It's all about your backend storage speed. 2013-07-24T13:18:21 Yep, and our architecture is screwing us. All filesystem blocks presented to the guest are mounted over NFS 2013-07-24T13:20:01 In many cases, NFS outperforms iSCSI actually.. 2013-07-24T13:20:06 iSCSI has a lot of overhead. 2013-07-24T13:20:37 The bottleneck is usually the speed of whatever the fileserver is and the pipes themselves. 2013-07-24T13:21:13 Like, I was running a Sun/Oracle Unified Storage system, serving VM data stores over NFS and having no problem getting performance comparable to a six-spindle raid6. 2013-07-24T13:22:36 However, I've also had similar things were storage was just on some random linux box with a five-spindle raid5 w/o multi-tiered ram/flash caching.. And well, yeah, that's not so hot. 2013-07-24T13:23:35 The general rule of thumb for databases, is anticipate your load and architect accordingly. If you are going to have a database load that's going to be seriously working the disk, you probably want to go bare metal unless you've got a really good storage arch. 2013-07-24T13:23:52 If it's just your average website doing less than 100 db ops a sec, do whatever. 2013-07-24T13:24:10 In this case, the storage backend is freenas 2013-07-24T13:24:11 Dealing with 2k+ req/sec, well, you gotta play grown up games. 2013-07-24T13:24:58 Yeah, it's not that bad. 2013-07-24T13:25:20 Flash caching is a way out of many holes... 2013-07-24T13:25:55 I don't actually know much about freenas. 2013-07-24T13:25:59 I'm thinking it's the intent log that is screwing us, because we don't have an independent flash disk; it's just writing it to spindles 2013-07-24T13:26:20 Basically, it's FreeBSD running with ZFS filesystems 2013-07-24T13:26:40 Works great for Windows VMs and non-database VMs 2013-07-24T13:26:43 In general, the problem with storage for VMs is the constant mixture of reads all over the place and writes all over the place, occurring at the same time. 2013-07-24T13:27:18 You really need to get into the situation where reads are cached (ideally multi-tier, ram & flash) and filesystem journals go to write optimized flash. 2013-07-24T13:27:50 That way you aren't getting bogged down as spindles are seeking all over the place. If there's some latency between when a write is preformed and when it hits the spindles, big woop. 2013-07-24T13:28:44 The various solaris type solutions that support zfs are a great way to go. 2013-07-24T13:29:05 Plus, solaris's NFS implementation, is well, _the_ NFS implementation. 2013-07-24T13:29:15 Right 2013-07-24T13:30:28 sounds like exactly why I liked the vserver approach to VM(sanboxing) in linux. One kernel to control the IO 2013-07-24T13:30:30 I was doing stuff with this awhile back, and was very happy with it: http://www.nexentastor.org/ 2013-07-24T13:30:31 Title: NexentaStor Project (at www.nexentastor.org) 2013-07-24T13:37:18 I'm fairly certain the community edition supports allocating flash drives for read cache and filesystem journals. 2013-07-24T13:37:44 And the Solaris ZFS implementation is smart enough to consider an operation "done" once it hits the journal, and just worry about getting it to the spindles in the background. 2013-07-24T13:38:00 There's write optimized flash drive, that are very small, but super fast. Perfect for journals. 2013-07-24T13:38:10 And by very small, I mean less than 100G. 2013-07-24T13:38:25 And you really only need like 20G for journals in virtually all cases. 2013-07-24T13:40:28 Take some commodity equipment, slam that on it. Get a 20G write optimized SSD for journals, a nice fast standard SSD for read opt, 16G ram, then as many spindles as you need (but at least 8), bond four giges.. Bam.. You're supporting at least three dozen VMs with good performance. 2013-07-24T13:46:37 *** RangerZ1 has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T13:59:23 *** v4mp has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T14:04:00 Ok, I see someone claim that they vpn to a server on the same network provider as riot games and get a much better gaming experience than from their home because they avoid the "bottleneck." Does their vpn connection not go through the "bottleneck?" Can someone explain this to me like I'm a 5 year old? 2013-07-24T14:08:51 There are situations where you take different AS paths to get to different subnets on the same ASN, but the ASNs internal traffic will always traverse their own links. Unlikely, but possible. 2013-07-24T14:13:03 My understanding is that my packets, (encrypted, plan text, vpn, etc) all take the same route regardless. To the routers they just look like packets. Again, this is my childlike understanding of this. 2013-07-24T14:13:54 QOS, VPN may get higher priority 2013-07-24T14:14:17 Routes on the Internet are determined by announcement out of an ASN. It's possible to take different routes to different subnets on to the same provider. Yet, internal traffic within that provider with (almost) always go over it's own links. 2013-07-24T14:14:27 So it is possible. 2013-07-24T14:14:37 Critch's point is accurate too. 2013-07-24T14:15:36 *** benthemeek1 has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T14:15:36 Typos in my comment and whatnot aside.. It's possible. 2013-07-24T14:16:30 *** benthemeek1 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-24T14:17:43 Also, if the transport protocol for the game is UDP and packet loss is in play.. It's possible the VPN protocol's retransmission would deal with dropped packets better than the game's handling of it's UDP packet drops.. 2013-07-24T14:18:19 *** benthemeek1 has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T14:18:51 *** benthemeek has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-24T14:33:24 Another possibility is that the game developer set a lower QOS on packets that improve the game visuals but aren't necessary for the full game experience, intending for their critical packets to get through with priority. Putting up a VPN ensures that the network can't properly react to those QOS settings 2013-07-24T14:36:49 *** benthemeek has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T14:36:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o benthemeek 2013-07-24T14:36:58 Cool. Thanks. 2013-07-24T14:39:09 *** benthemeek1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-07-24T14:41:37 *** oddball has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-24T14:44:26 *** benthemeek has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-24T14:44:47 *** benthemeek has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T14:44:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o benthemeek 2013-07-24T14:49:00 *** oddball has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T15:01:08 *** the_hugme has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-24T15:13:53 *** benthemeek1 has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T15:17:33 *** benthemeek has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-24T15:19:46 *** benthemeek1 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-24T15:21:12 *** benthemeek has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T15:21:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o benthemeek 2013-07-24T15:21:13 *** benthemeek has left #se2600 2013-07-24T15:26:18 https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1005331_556116627778174_579100532_n.jpg 2013-07-24T15:26:29 despicable me 2 win! 2013-07-24T15:31:48 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57595252/youtube-kicks-off-first-ever-geek-week-in-august/ 2013-07-24T15:31:49 Title: YouTube kicks off first-ever Geek Week in August - CBS News (at www.cbsnews.com) 2013-07-24T15:34:09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTeENEQkBKE hehe 2013-07-24T15:34:10 Title: THE PORN MINISTER | Letter to David Cameron | Dan Bull - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-07-24T16:44:21 yeah 2013-07-24T16:44:30 so ipv6 is fun 2013-07-24T16:45:34 the only thing I have with ipv6 is I don't know how I feel about the other end knowing 'exactly' which device it is transmitting to 2013-07-24T16:48:31 it taks some learning, but once you get the idea and basics you tend to pick it up 2013-07-24T16:48:44 yeah, i haven't looked into it at all really 2013-07-24T16:48:50 the hardest part is learning how routers (home routers) handle it 2013-07-24T16:49:20 cause there seems to be alot of disconnect between the standards and how linksys and netgear route ipv6 through to the lan side 2013-07-24T16:49:44 right now they all seem to have their own internal methods and standards 2013-07-24T16:50:27 well if STANFORD didn't have more ipv4 addresses... than ASIA... 2013-07-24T16:50:31 but nvm... 2013-07-24T16:51:13 actually, I don't know if thats still true or not, probably not 2013-07-24T16:51:43 not with the exhaustion 2013-07-24T16:59:32 so hurricane electric has a great hands on certification course 2013-07-24T17:06:44 *** Vyrus001_ is now known as Vyrus001 2013-07-24T17:31:50 *** v4mp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-07-24T17:35:24 *** sdodson_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-07-24T17:43:17 *** sdodson has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T17:43:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sdodson 2013-07-24T17:58:21 gah, i really need a terminal with ipv6 enabled 2013-07-24T18:31:41 vagina 2013-07-24T18:32:19 btw 2013-07-24T18:32:27 did you all call your reps about the defunding NSA amendment? 2013-07-24T18:32:49 nah 2013-07-24T18:32:56 NSA is actually important 2013-07-24T18:33:03 but the problem is... over-reach 2013-07-24T18:33:35 I've never been a fan of 'de-funding' its a crap way to make something happen 2013-07-24T18:33:44 b/c it doesn't actually change the laws or anything 2013-07-24T18:33:49 just delays things 2013-07-24T18:33:55 it's at least a start 2013-07-24T18:34:11 The problem is, nobody is going to vote to restrict the NSA, because then the media will say they are soft on crime 2013-07-24T18:34:17 crime/terrorism 2013-07-24T18:37:35 well, i just want to make sure they are visibly monitored 2013-07-24T18:37:43 of course they have to stay secret 2013-07-24T18:37:59 but it remains that they have to responsible for what they do 2013-07-24T18:41:35 the asking of google and facebook, etc to spy on us is a bit much 2013-07-24T18:41:52 if they went after exact accounts/suspects thats another story 2013-07-24T18:42:05 but what they had acesss to (imo) was to much 2013-07-24T18:52:33 greg proops: "its a move gradually to the right party",.....(bbc version host): "oh, so its a labor party sort of event", greg proops "you sly racoon" 2013-07-24T19:32:49 fucking red light cameras 2013-07-24T19:42:37 *** RangerZ1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-24T20:08:49 aestetix_: how bad was the fine? 2013-07-24T20:08:57 oh, post the pic (license blurred) 2013-07-24T20:09:00 gotta see that shit 2013-07-24T20:22:47 *** FNG_m has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T21:53:48 *** anarchival has joined #se2600 2013-07-24T22:08:15 wooo! psychostick is coming to nashville 2013-07-24T22:16:46 and to celebrate this fact.... BEER! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-jOEAufDQ4 2013-07-24T22:16:47 Title: Beer! by PSYCHOSTICK [OFFICIAL VIDEO] "Beer is good and stuff" - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-07-24T22:33:28 *** FNG_m has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-07-24T22:53:06 *** anarchival has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-24T23:09:23 ok, this iris thing frow low is so cool 2013-07-24T23:09:54 *lowes 2013-07-24T23:10:03 took about 1 1/2 to get things working out of the box 2013-07-24T23:10:43 and now i got thermostat, 3 doors with sesnsor, movement sensor, keypad and outlet switch all tied to the system 2013-07-24T23:11:03 kinda fun turning off and on my stereo from my mouse click 2013-07-24T23:17:07 1 1/2 hours that is