2013-07-19T01:08:10 *** v4mp has quit IRC (Quit: 再见) 2013-07-19T01:34:29 useless god damned mongo 2013-07-19T01:34:45 I just told that motherfucker what he would be doing tonight and he's asking pat what he needs to do 2013-07-19T01:34:58 and you people think I make this shit up 2013-07-19T01:36:12 hey look 2013-07-19T01:36:12 http://i.imgur.com/jy1OS0q.jpg 2013-07-19T01:36:16 it's wilpig and his gf 2013-07-19T01:36:48 those are clearly apes not me and my hand 2013-07-19T01:38:23 ooga booga 2013-07-19T01:41:30 ok so 2013-07-19T01:41:31 https://youtube.googleapis.com/v/oyRv4J5J8i8 2013-07-19T01:41:35 I'm not sure if this is NSFW or not 2013-07-19T01:41:46 then I will not click for mongo is behind me 2013-07-19T01:42:07 I managed to cut myself in the datacenter again too 2013-07-19T01:42:32 nothing quite like looking down to see a big pool of blood on your arm and no clue when it happened or how it happened 2013-07-19T01:57:17 fuckin' a. too much work to do not enough time. three pieces of equipment yet to rack and can't find em 2013-07-19T02:21:46 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-07-19T02:37:05 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T03:19:20 Quote of the night: "how did a pair of my underwear wind up in the litter box?" 2013-07-19T04:01:56 http://slashdot.org/story/13/07/19/0122223/microsoft-is-sitting-on-six-million-unsold-surface-tablets who the ....fuck... thought it would be a good idea to manufacture THAT many.... everyone knows you make 'demand' by limiting supply at the benining by setting a set number of devices available, .... fucking xbox division knows this 2013-07-19T04:01:57 Title: Microsoft Is Sitting On Six Million Unsold Surface Tablets - Slashdot (at slashdot.org) 2013-07-19T04:02:13 THEN you ramp up production to 'meet' demand 2013-07-19T04:11:27 RangerZ1: did you see their commercial? My god man! WHO WOULDN'T WANT THAT?! 2013-07-19T04:11:38 yeah, really 2013-07-19T04:12:01 There was a board room and choreography and uhmmmm a shitload of drugs in the board room when they wrote that! 2013-07-19T04:13:59 http://www.dell.com/support/troubleshooting/us/en/555/servicetag/8VFCSM1 2013-07-19T04:14:01 Title: Product Support for PowerEdge Rack Enclosure 4220 | Dell US (at www.dell.com) 2013-07-19T04:14:04 this is surprising as fuck 2013-07-19T04:14:11 I'm all for hookers and blow... but jesus H christ 2013-07-19T04:14:17 do it AFTER hours 2013-07-19T04:14:21 he had nothing to do with that 2013-07-19T04:14:45 what is? 2013-07-19T04:14:51 click. 2013-07-19T04:15:08 the title says it but i'm just boggled by the fact it had a service id on it. and it actually pulled up something 2013-07-19T04:15:55 ahh 2013-07-19T04:16:11 i thought y ou got a free replacement one or something, by your reaciton 2013-07-19T04:16:13 lol 2013-07-19T04:16:33 I'm just sitting in here wtf mode at a rack having a service id 2013-07-19T04:16:41 well... it 'should' 2013-07-19T04:16:47 *shrugs* 2013-07-19T04:17:12 I put together a blade chassis, complete with blades but #3 is missing. just another int he puzzle that is tonight 2013-07-19T04:17:22 dell's top of the line stuff has always been ran differently than their 'business and school' pc shit, which is different than their 'we buy at walmart' 2013-07-19T04:17:30 oh and mongo just spent about an hour to an hour and a half breaking down boxes and he just left for a break 2013-07-19T04:17:36 this is teh first i've sat down since 8pm 2013-07-19T04:18:06 I believe this is a justified point in my life when I can use the phrase "lazy ....." 2013-07-19T04:18:29 but the NSA is watching and they're gonna report me to HR for using "hate speach" and not an accurate description of a lazy fuck 2013-07-19T04:19:10 I have a tape library that is missing part of the rails. If it isn't then those are the worst designed rails in history 2013-07-19T04:19:26 but i'm willing to put money on they're missing a front and rear plate for the rack 2013-07-19T04:19:44 fuck you google! 2013-07-19T04:19:54 https://www.google.com/logos/2012/birthday12-hp.jpg 2013-07-19T04:19:57 when I went to google 2013-07-19T04:20:07 why? 2013-07-19T04:20:18 ohh 2013-07-19T04:20:20 yeah 2013-07-19T04:20:45 6 more years and then the blowout birthday 2013-07-19T04:21:19 62 ? 2013-07-19T04:21:27 you can start collecting Social Security? 2013-07-19T04:21:46 that's teh shotgun birthday 2013-07-19T04:22:14 jsut nod, i'm not explaining 2013-07-19T04:25:14 shitty rail configuration confirmed. http://downloads.quantum.com/scalar/i40-i80/6-66560-02_CRU_Rack_Scalar_i40_i80.pdfhttp://downloads.quantum.com/scalar/i40-i80/6-66560-02_CRU_Rack_Scalar_i40_i80.pdf 2013-07-19T04:25:40 back in a few gonna go see about running some round pegs through square holes 2013-07-19T04:38:45 *** sdodson_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-07-19T04:44:35 *** sdodson has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T04:44:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sdodson 2013-07-19T04:50:33 okay tape library installed 2013-07-19T07:31:11 *** Dolemite has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T07:31:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dolemite 2013-07-19T07:31:13 mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 2013-07-19T07:31:18 no u 2013-07-19T07:31:18 Happy oinkday, piggie! 2013-07-19T07:31:28 bah humbug 2013-07-19T07:31:48 i'm fuckin' exhausted 2013-07-19T07:31:51 u old FART 2013-07-19T07:32:05 You have any more rows of cabinets rolling towards you last night? 2013-07-19T07:32:28 unracked a procera last night. filled a 42u rack about 75% last night 2013-07-19T07:33:27 You called? 2013-07-19T07:33:33 cannot for the life of me find any info on these blades in the procera 2013-07-19T07:33:36 not you. 2013-07-19T07:33:44 :( 2013-07-19T07:33:51 * Bahhumbug goes slinking away 2013-07-19T07:34:00 unless you're going to deliver me a whore for my birthday, then yes I was paging you 2013-07-19T07:34:10 (By the way, Happy Shorter of Breath and One Day Closer to Death day) 2013-07-19T07:34:25 are you delivering a whore? 2013-07-19T07:34:34 I hear Sarah Sharp is available. 2013-07-19T07:34:48 maybe so but not the question 2013-07-19T07:35:19 No. I am not delivering you a whore. 2013-07-19T07:35:26 then away with you. 2013-07-19T07:35:34 * wilpig shoo's at Bahhumbug 2013-07-19T07:36:04 * Bahhumbug gets the contact information for the houseplant and has him drop by wilpig's apartment around noon. 2013-07-19T07:36:23 Don't make me shit in a box and mail it to you today 2013-07-19T07:36:25 I will... 2013-07-19T07:36:34 partly because I like pooping in boxes 2013-07-19T07:36:41 Address in whois is accurate. 2013-07-19T07:37:10 I wonder if I write a note on top to leave it flaming on the porch if the mailman will follow instructions 2013-07-19T07:37:33 Mailwoman. And no, Bobbi won't :) 2013-07-19T07:37:50 bitch! 2013-07-19T07:38:32 She has a key to one of our cars so she can leave packages in it when we are not here. She's actually really nice. 2013-07-19T07:38:40 You must try harder. 2013-07-19T07:39:08 check. tape c-note to top of box along with instructions to set on fire and leave onthe porch 2013-07-19T07:39:32 Or in the car. 2013-07-19T07:39:39 Personally, I'd have opted for that. 2013-07-19T07:39:55 no. porch. who's gonna come out and stomp on a flaming car, other than maybe mongo 2013-07-19T07:40:50 Ok, there is that. 2013-07-19T07:40:59 You can ask him when you see him at noon. 2013-07-19T07:41:23 Should I see mongo at noon, nobody wil see him again. I'm headed to KY around 3, I think 2013-07-19T07:41:41 Bonus! 2013-07-19T07:41:46 http://www.pattis-settlement.com/pattis_menu_dinner.htm#porkchops 2013-07-19T07:41:48 Title: Patti's Menus (at www.pattis-settlement.com) 2013-07-19T07:42:02 you see that?! HUH? yeah i've got a date with a pork chop tonight 2013-07-19T07:42:19 You need to get out more. 2013-07-19T07:42:33 I'm getting out. I'm gonna go get a 2" thick pork chop 2013-07-19T07:42:57 Yeah, but you sound really excited about it. 2013-07-19T07:43:10 Maybe you DO need a whore. 2013-07-19T07:43:17 I need a whore, more than you know 2013-07-19T07:43:40 wilpig: Have you done any more work on the ports in the past 2 days? I tried on Tuesday to save some connections and it wouldn't let me choose any destination ports. Was wondering if it was related to changing the array index on your getPatchCandidates() method. 2013-07-19T07:43:45 s/know/want to know/ 2013-07-19T07:43:47 no 2013-07-19T07:43:58 I haven't done shit 2013-07-19T07:44:04 Slacker. 2013-07-19T07:44:06 Ok, w 2013-07-19T07:44:07 * Bahhumbug hides 2013-07-19T07:44:09 but it likely could 2013-07-19T07:44:17 well yesterday you said you had a bunch to commit 2013-07-19T07:44:24 so I thought I'd ask 2013-07-19T07:44:25 I committed all of that 2013-07-19T07:44:35 I haven't pulled yet 2013-07-19T07:44:52 just hit F12 then look at the data that gets submitted and see what's up 2013-07-19T07:46:41 yeah, I'll have to do some debuggery 2013-07-19T07:50:35 yes that's exactly what happened 2013-07-19T07:51:33 ok I'll go look through it and try to fiss it 2013-07-19T07:51:40 because it's pulling the value of that dropdown 2013-07-19T07:52:12 I'll just have to populate the id of the dropdown with $a[$n]->DeviceID 2013-07-19T07:52:55 What did you work on last night that you said I'd love 2013-07-19T07:53:09 you can't because it's a json response 2013-07-19T07:53:11 i'm fixing it 2013-07-19T07:53:13 hold on 2013-07-19T07:53:20 I know you twerked on infrastructure.inc 2013-07-19T07:53:31 k 2013-07-19T07:55:45 damnit. I thought that was it but apparently not 2013-07-19T08:00:31 pull 2013-07-19T08:00:55 You found it, or do I need to keep looking while you cannibalize a pr0k chop? 2013-07-19T08:01:00 it's fixed 2013-07-19T08:01:05 what was it? 2013-07-19T08:01:08 this index? 2013-07-19T08:01:11 yes 2013-07-19T08:01:22 but I pulled the number from another spot 2013-07-19T08:01:34 Well that's why I emailed you to tell you what I did and why so that you didn't reverse it 2013-07-19T08:02:06 changed devid to device.DeviceID inside the JS in two places 2013-07-19T08:02:16 I don't remember why I have it in two places but I changed both 2013-07-19T08:02:45 I know there is a reason, just no clue what that reason is right now. OH! one is for patch panels, the other is for everythign else 2013-07-19T08:03:42 that fixed the problem I was having, so now I'll test further 2013-07-19T08:04:18 Did you look to see what brimstone's pull request did, or did you just blindly merge it? 2013-07-19T08:04:28 I told him to submit it 2013-07-19T08:04:31 i hope he's blindly merging it 2013-07-19T08:04:33 then I blindly merged it 2013-07-19T08:04:37 i'd have it no other way 2013-07-19T08:04:46 I redid the stuff he submitted for the installer 2013-07-19T08:05:04 great, now we have a goatse embedded in the code somewhere 2013-07-19T08:05:13 oh yeah, it was a fix for the sorting of racks that would fix the 1,10,11... grouping 2013-07-19T08:05:36 brimstone just found gandalf 2013-07-19T08:05:38 Ah, for people that don't think far enough ahead to zero fill. lol 2013-07-19T08:05:46 ∈)☼(∋ 2013-07-19T08:05:53 ^ 2013-07-19T08:05:54 nice 2013-07-19T08:06:05 goatse'd by text 2013-07-19T08:06:11 OMG, that's the code for "PDO Library Not Installed" 2013-07-19T08:06:36 E{0}3 2013-07-19T08:10:13 Oh, now I remember. I need to make an alternate version of conversion.php for us since we have port numbers higher than the number of ports. 2013-07-19T08:10:37 And since I had recommended that mechanism to some others, it may need to become the actual version 2013-07-19T08:11:00 that was on my list of shit to do but I was busy 2013-07-19T08:11:25 now it's on my list 2013-07-19T08:13:32 I'm half thinking it would be easier to just convert them all over, dumpwhatever portid they currently have set, then justmake any new ports, if it has too many ports leave them. they'll get nuked off at the next device update 2013-07-19T08:14:04 the next device update should make new ports too, but odds are you'd want them to be able to connect to the empties without having to update every device like that 2013-07-19T08:16:43 That's pretty much what I'm planning on doing - keep the ports in the same order, but renumber them as sequential counting numbers, and if the Device->Ports is lower, just up that number. 2013-07-19T08:30:19 Wilbur: FINALLY! http://foaas.com/ 2013-07-19T08:30:20 Title: Fuck Off As A Service (FOAAS) (at foaas.com) 2013-07-19T08:30:39 We have needed that for so long... 2013-07-19T08:31:56 github down for anyone else? 2013-07-19T08:32:28 must be a new version of rails out 2013-07-19T08:32:43 down from sweden, other people are mentioning it too frsilent 2013-07-19T08:33:09 =( 2013-07-19T08:33:35 time to email my recruiter then, supposed to be writing some stoopid tic-tac-toe ai for an application 2013-07-19T08:33:52 btdub cox media is hiring like 7 django devs right now 2013-07-19T08:34:47 frsilent: you in atl? 2013-07-19T08:35:26 yes sir, well close enough 2013-07-19T08:35:40 statesboro, ga finishing my degree (1 more week of physics 2) 2013-07-19T08:36:11 neat 2013-07-19T08:42:47 one of the cox guys plugged those jobs at the recent ATLjavascript presentation 2013-07-19T08:42:52 which is why i ask 2013-07-19T08:45:04 ah neat. I worked for a small media company as an intern/part-time for about 16mo & figured I wouldn't like it again but after talking to some people heard 2013-07-19T08:45:14 that it was a pretty great place to work 2013-07-19T09:06:14 *** Synx|hm has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2013-07-19T09:09:03 *** Synx|hm has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T10:28:18 *** v4mp has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T10:44:44 *** Synx|hm_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T10:47:35 *** Synx|hm has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-19T10:57:38 http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/The-H-is-closing-down-1920027.html 2013-07-19T10:57:40 Title: The H is closing down - The H Open: News and Features (at www.h-online.com) 2013-07-19T10:59:39 Finally, a cloud service I can get excited about! http://foass.com 2013-07-19T11:03:53 Oops, typo. http://foaas.com 2013-07-19T11:03:54 Title: Fuck Off As A Service (FOAAS) (at foaas.com) 2013-07-19T11:04:24 rattle: Oh yeah. I am considering submitting a change to change management on Monday to schedule installing that on some of our webservers 2013-07-19T11:09:16 Hey Dag, what kinda SIEM does Vandy use? 2013-07-19T11:10:49 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T11:12:02 *** Dolemite has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-07-19T11:16:04 What's a SIEM? 2013-07-19T11:19:43 well poop 2013-07-19T11:19:55 just upgraded my unraid install on my ESXi host and now it wont boot 2013-07-19T11:29:23 and we're back yay 2013-07-19T11:35:48 fuck my car reg has been expired for 3 months 2013-07-19T11:35:48 DOH 2013-07-19T11:35:52 cccccccvkecbhiguuhtlbniflkiunvrnihggddvtuhnj 2013-07-19T11:36:10 so theres that 2013-07-19T11:37:34 rattle: you looking at any besides sensage, elsa, and arcsight? 2013-07-19T11:38:09 *** vaneck_ is now known as vaneck 2013-07-19T11:38:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o vaneck 2013-07-19T11:39:47 Dagmar: Security Information and Event Management. It's log management, correlation, alerting, reporting, et cetera.. 2013-07-19T11:39:57 eryc: I'm heavily leaning in the direction of QRadar. 2013-07-19T11:40:37 eryc: ArcSite is cool, but it's super expensive, and the amount of work you have to sink into it to get good value out is crazy. It's only really good for very large enterprise when you've got a 4+ person team _just_ for SIEM. 2013-07-19T11:41:46 I've never been that impressed with SenSage. 2013-07-19T11:42:07 And my impression of elsa is that's it's kludged together hooha. 2013-07-19T11:42:11 Same thing with OSSIM. 2013-07-19T11:42:57 Rather, we've got OSSIM right now, and I'm not thrilled with it. The ratio of work into tweaking vs value out is way out of wack. 2013-07-19T11:43:15 I've had good experience with LogRhythm, but QRadar is blowing it out of the water these days.. 2013-07-19T11:43:54 Interesting. I've looked at OSSEC for HIDS, is OSSIM from the same people? 2013-07-19T11:44:05 AlienVault. 2013-07-19T11:44:19 ah 2013-07-19T11:44:26 OSSIM was open source, but they've created a commercial version and are slowly ripping all the useful functionality of the OSS version into the commercial version. 2013-07-19T11:44:37 It's neat in some ways, but it's not a "Grown Up" SIEM. 2013-07-19T11:45:40 Have you tried a demo of QRadar? 2013-07-19T11:45:42 mother fucker 2013-07-19T11:45:49 $113 late fee for DMV 2013-07-19T11:46:07 for a total of $300 2013-07-19T11:46:32 damn $95k for QRader? 2013-07-19T11:46:53 that's cute how they think anyone would pay for that "online" and "download right away" 2013-07-19T11:48:17 I suppose if you've got that kind of money and there's no one to make you fill out procurement forms, and you're drunk enough, that might actually happen. 2013-07-19T11:50:28 Yeah, I've got an Eval going. You can get into it for less than $95k. 2013-07-19T11:53:30 The public MSRP stuff is in the six-figure range so they can make sure they only get serious inquiries. 2013-07-19T11:55:13 It's hard to do any grown up SIEM for less than $60k. 2013-07-19T11:55:22 Below that, you're in Splunk territory. 2013-07-19T11:56:33 I don't think you can even get into ArcSite for less than $200k at this point. 2013-07-19T11:57:24 Well, I suppose these companies know there's money out there to spend on software since no one wants to pay for skilled and knowledgeable employees. 2013-07-19T11:57:51 $200k CAPEX, another $250k/yr OPEX for staff.. After support and whatnot, you're looking at roughly $1M over 3 years. 2013-07-19T11:58:25 Eh? SIEM doesn't replace staff. Thinking so is a huge mistake. 2013-07-19T11:59:10 ...and yet companies will spend a crapton of money on things like that, but hire their security engineers by promoting up from tier I helpdesk. 2013-07-19T11:59:18 ...or that might just be Vandy. 2013-07-19T12:00:05 IMOH, 2 jr for every sr staffer is about right for the average SOC. 2013-07-19T12:00:11 I am, right at this very moment, having to send an email to two of our "firewall specialists" explaining the reason that three of the checks on one node of a pair of "matched" firewalls don't work, because someone failed to properly configure the bridge that goes between the SplatOS SNMPd and Checkpoint's SNMPD that sits on port 260.; 2013-07-19T12:00:29 Depending on how the SOC interfaces with your IR capacity. If it's one in the same, that might be different. 2013-07-19T12:00:55 But you don't pay someone $120k a year to watch a console and keep a log.. 2013-07-19T12:01:06 I can say this with a ridiculous level of certainty, because their third guy was such an idiot I had to rewrite those checks so that if they were presented with a "No such OID" message from the normal SNMPd on port 161/udp, that they would automatically fall back to a SNMP v1 query to the daemon on port 260. 2013-07-19T12:02:59 Clearly since I am getting responses back from the interface status checks that I wrote, the storage utilization check I wrote, and the system uptime check I wrote, but not the process-specific CPU utilization monitor, the state table limit check, and the firewall policy deployment time check, that the bridge isn't functioning and the box isn't letting us talk to port 260/udp anymore. 2013-07-19T12:04:36 People still use Checkpoint? :) 2013-07-19T12:10:15 yes. 2013-07-19T12:11:27 These people are the reason I couldn't even apply for those positions in network security here. 2013-07-19T12:11:28 I would have wound up killing someone inside of six months. 2013-07-19T12:11:47 Their firewalls are supposed to be matched pairs, but we keep seeing obvious differences in the configuration of them. At one point we spotted them using two boxes which had differing amounts of physical RAM in htem. 2013-07-19T12:12:04 Gosh I can't imagine why failover wasn't working 2013-07-19T12:12:25 I had to deploy Nagios checks explicitly to call them out when the heartbeat cable wasn't actually connected between them. 2013-07-19T12:12:46 Like, WTF guys... Someone paid to send them to classes for this shit and they still fuck it up 2013-07-19T12:13:04 I always find it amazing when people use software based firewalls in enterprise network environments. That just seems insane to me. 2013-07-19T12:13:27 Like, small offices or something, sure.. pfsense and whatnot is all rad and nice. 2013-07-19T12:13:44 They've got some Cisco ASA boxes, but it's not like that's anything more that a slightly *different* hoop to jump throught 2013-07-19T12:14:04 But for fucks sake, who wants to run more than 20Mbit through something that doesn't have a separate plane for data and management? 2013-07-19T12:14:24 Oh they'll do 100Mbit no problem 2013-07-19T12:14:58 ASA's are better from a reliability perspective, but the management sucks.. And they have the zero application visibility for web app problem, like most non ng firewalls. 2013-07-19T12:15:07 Whether or not everything will immediatley go apeshit should a failover event happen is anyone's guess 2013-07-19T12:15:18 *** Synx|hm_ is now known as Synx|hm 2013-07-19T12:15:28 No wait, not a guess. It's almost guaranteed to "fail over he-ere! fail over the-ere!" 2013-07-19T12:15:34 Every software only firewall I've ever seen starts to shows drifting latency when in the 100Mbit range. It's just not always severe enough to be noticed. 2013-07-19T12:17:04 Ruhoh.. http://www.vnsecurity.net/2013/07/exploiting-nginx-chunked-overflow-bug-the-undisclosed-attack-vector-cve-2013-2028/ 2013-07-19T12:17:16 NOT POSSIBLE 2013-07-19T12:17:29 NGINIX IS PERFEFCT AND NO ONE SHOULD EVAR USE SQUID FOR SIMPLE CONFIGURATIONS 2013-07-19T12:17:41 Dude, Squid is crap. 2013-07-19T12:17:44 Varnish for the win! 2013-07-19T12:17:59 The Nginx/Varnish stack _IS_ very good. 2013-07-19T12:18:07 Yeah but it does 90% of the fuckin' work without the repeated "Oh shit you mean there's a limit to the allocation size?" 2013-07-19T12:18:54 At CAP we were regularly running Varnish/Nginx upwards of 2k req/sec. Shit just hums. 2013-07-19T12:18:59 ...and it doesn't take a whole lot of fancy to cause a vast improvement over "LET'S EXECUTE THIS PHP AND BATTER THE DATABASE SERVER EVERY FUCKING TIME" 2013-07-19T12:19:00 Apache and Squid are dead dead dead. 2013-07-19T12:19:29 rattle: ...until you have "users". 2013-07-19T12:20:03 Hell, Nginx/Varnish are easier to configure than Apache/Squid. 2013-07-19T12:20:10 Like, a lot easier. 2013-07-19T12:20:55 I don't really give two shits since I don't have a problem setting up Apache. 2013-07-19T12:21:09 Apache isn't exactly rocket science, but getting a Squid configuration that actually works with consistency under load sometimes is. 2013-07-19T12:21:14 90% of the problems are coming from the moderate-to-incredibly insane things the users are doing 2013-07-19T12:21:22 "Hey, we're under real load now! Woo!" 2013-07-19T12:21:41 They'll "install" simplepie and never bother to actually set the cache location to somewhere writeable 2013-07-19T12:22:02 Caching decisions based on cookie content.. Things like that. Super easy with Varnish. 2013-07-19T12:22:16 Assuming you have users who understand things like that 2013-07-19T12:22:38 We have people who will make Wordpress themes that use wget to grab bits from other servers... 2013-07-19T12:22:56 ...which may or may not be another WordPress-generated document, or it's own damn self 2013-07-19T12:23:00 And having to MANUALLY make decisions about ram vs disk cache sizes and whatnot. There's a thing that's really good at managing virtually memory. It's called the fucking kernel, use it. 2013-07-19T12:23:16 Nope, our users can beat that, too. 2013-07-19T12:23:56 They have demonstrated that they can and will fail at using PHP to parse an HTML document, not bother with silly EOF checks on the read, and involve a variable in the function to do this which was not declared globalls. 2013-07-19T12:24:13 Infinite loop, meet minor PHP error_log message. 2013-07-19T12:24:25 1.2 million lines, twenty seconds. 2013-07-19T12:24:31 "Hey, it's 2013! Let's use a web server that FORKS! Woohoo!" 2013-07-19T12:24:35 Disk overloaded. All RAMS gone-gone. 2013-07-19T12:24:40 Kernel fall down go bewm. 2013-07-19T12:25:12 They'll even run this shit while I AM ON THE PHONE WITH THEM EXPLAINING THAT THE SCRIPT IS FATALLY FLAWED AND KILLING THE SERVER. 2013-07-19T12:25:20 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-07-19T12:25:50 The best part is that it bufus the server so fucking fast, kjournald doesn't even have time to properly journal all that shit into the logs. 2013-07-19T12:26:05 Upon reboot, ext3 just quietly disposes of the evidence. 2013-07-19T12:26:27 I'm not looking forward to explaining nicelevel and why I need to put them into play, to management. 2013-07-19T12:27:46 This is what happens when this shit goes awry on a giant-ass ESX box where the VMs aren't throttled at all 2013-07-19T12:28:27 Loops can run a HOLY MOTHER OF GOD number of times faster than ever before possible 2013-07-19T12:28:53 I just saw the lineup for RiotFest in Chicago and wished I wasn't married with kid. 2013-07-19T12:29:05 If the VMs were running anything more efficient, I swear these people would be able to take down the entire fucking ESK with four lines of PHP 2013-07-19T12:29:16 s/ESk/ESX/ 2013-07-19T12:29:36 They really have no idea how "understanding and accepting" I am being 2013-07-19T12:35:39 posted for your amusement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huHOOrQXh9A 2013-07-19T12:35:40 Title: Tiny Cannon - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-07-19T12:36:48 anyone using bittorrentsync? 2013-07-19T12:37:00 Another reason why I think the CEH is a fucking joke: http://certifiedethicalhackerceh.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-netcat-trojan-works.html 2013-07-19T12:37:01 Title: CEH: Certified Ethical Hacker: How the Netcat Trojan Works (at certifiedethicalhackerceh.blogspot.com) 2013-07-19T12:37:19 HOLY SHIT NETCAT HAS A TROJAN? 2013-07-19T12:37:19 THAT'S RIGHT KIDS, NETCAT IS A TROJAN. TAKE NOTES YOU FUCKS. 2013-07-19T12:37:35 que what now? 2013-07-19T12:38:03 FIRST SENTENCE: "Netcat is a Trojan that uses a command-line interface to open TCP or UDP ports on a target system." 2013-07-19T12:38:12 GOT IT? ANY QUESTIONS? THIS WILL BE ON THE TEST. 2013-07-19T12:39:14 Sigh. 2013-07-19T12:39:24 Reload tat page 2013-07-19T12:39:27 Scroll to the bottom 2013-07-19T12:40:02 I'm so glad they don't filter comments by default. 2013-07-19T12:40:13 Did I just hear that netcat is a condom with hacking abilities? 2013-07-19T12:40:24 It would be more accurate than what they wrote. 2013-07-19T12:42:29 WARNING: DO NOT USE NETCAT WITH A SILICON BASED LUBERCANT 2013-07-19T12:43:08 WARNING: DO NOT STORE NETCAT IN YOUR WALLET 2013-07-19T12:44:02 IF NETCAT BECOMES DISCOLORED, DISCARD IMMEDIATELY 2013-07-19T12:44:16 *** emwav has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T12:46:28 I seriously hope this blog is a hoax. 2013-07-19T12:46:37 It's gotta be a hoax. 2013-07-19T12:46:49 "To defend against session hijack attacks, a network should employ several defenses. The most effective protection is encryption, such as Internet Protocol Security (IPSec)." 2013-07-19T12:46:51 wtf? 2013-07-19T12:47:09 "TCP session hijacking is a dangerous attack: most systems are vulnerable to it, because they use TCP/IP as their primary communication protocol." 2013-07-19T12:47:32 yes this is why I just went straight to asking that they stop internetting. 2013-07-19T12:47:35 you hsould stop reading that before something accidentally sticks 2013-07-19T12:47:51 There is so much wrong in there you'd think it got copied off of eHow 2013-07-19T12:48:33 let me find you some interracial, german fisting, tranny porn. it will leave your brain less damaged 2013-07-19T12:48:41 "A BOT is short for web robot and is an automated software program that behaves intelligently." 2013-07-19T12:49:27 "EtherFlood is used to flood an Ethernet switch with traffic to make it revert to a hub." BECAUSE IT'S 1996 AND THAT STILL WORKS. 2013-07-19T12:51:55 alright getting in the shower. gotta get over to the ups store to ship this microsd back to kingston before heading north for operation pork chop. 2013-07-19T12:56:31 Shit all the modern stuff just gets to a point where it says "FUCK YOU" and disables your port 2013-07-19T13:06:22 *** emwav has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-07-19T13:24:23 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T13:53:43 *** v4mp has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-19T13:54:01 *** v4mp has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T14:11:00 "Please see the email after this one..." 2013-07-19T14:11:05 That was over an hour ago. 2013-07-19T14:11:31 I'm guessing Mr. Firewall "Specialist" noticed that I wasn't kidding when I said "The only logical explanation is that the Checkpoint SNMPd is down." 2013-07-19T14:19:29 *** Synx|hm has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2013-07-19T14:21:18 OTHERWISE... MURDERS. 2013-07-19T14:44:15 *** Bahhumbug has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-19T14:46:23 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) 2013-07-19T14:49:42 *** vaneck has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-19T14:49:46 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T14:55:34 *** anarchival has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T15:05:02 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-19T15:18:53 *** anarchival has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-19T15:32:30 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T15:45:32 *** K4k has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1) 2013-07-19T15:45:56 *** K4k has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T15:47:54 *** Bahhumbug has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T15:47:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bahhumbug 2013-07-19T15:48:07 *** Bahhumbug has quit IRC (Excess Flood) 2013-07-19T15:48:38 *** Bahhumbug has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T15:48:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bahhumbug 2013-07-19T15:52:03 So, if James Eagan Holmes lived in Florida, had a carry permit for his autmatic weapon, and had been startled and "felt threatened" during a showing of _The Dark Knight Rises_ everything would be ok? 2013-07-19T16:01:08 *** K4k has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1) 2013-07-19T16:09:41 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-19T16:11:08 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T16:34:43 URGE TO KILL RISING 2013-07-19T16:34:55 * RangerZ gives Dagmar a cookie 2013-07-19T16:35:02 chocolate chip, too 2013-07-19T16:35:11 HOW DO I SHARPEN THIS 2013-07-19T16:38:35 with your teeth 2013-07-19T16:38:47 you nibble on the cookie 2013-07-19T16:41:17 Who are you wanting to murder today? 2013-07-19T16:41:25 I need entertainment. Entertain me. 2013-07-19T16:42:00 I'm hoping for a 2'fer ... mongo ... please be mongo 2013-07-19T16:42:48 I could use his job... over 2x double my income... and let me take 1 class per semester for free... (i only need like 2 classes left for my PhD coursework to be done... ;) 2013-07-19T16:43:31 Um... 2013-07-19T16:43:39 He gets paid twice your salary? 2013-07-19T16:43:43 ... 2013-07-19T16:43:44 wow 2013-07-19T16:45:03 *** vaneck has joined #se2600 2013-07-19T16:45:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o vaneck 2013-07-19T17:01:00 RangerZ: Bad news. You can't really "take" the class. You're allowed to "audit" one class per-semester. 2013-07-19T17:01:02 Welcome to the world of graduate students 2013-07-19T17:01:08 ...meaning you don't get credit for it. 2013-07-19T17:01:51 This is why I have not even considered bothering. I can do independent study just gine. 2013-07-19T17:01:52 er fine. 2013-07-19T17:03:10 *** v4mp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-07-19T17:15:19 Dagmar: actually, i was told i could strait up 'take' it since i'm transfering in as a grad student 2013-07-19T17:15:30 all of ISIS does it 2013-07-19T17:15:42 well... all who need to take any classes left 2013-07-19T17:16:11 Bahhumbug: you think thats bad... vandy pays the best of any grad school i know of in the country 2013-07-19T17:16:24 my friend got tuition + 10k stipend as a TA 2013-07-19T17:16:33 vandy pays 2.5x that roughly 2013-07-19T17:16:45 but he was at Univ. of Pitt. 2013-07-19T17:30:11 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-19T18:29:34 And yet a plant makes 2 times your salary. 2013-07-19T18:29:44 Something, somewhere, is fucked up. 2013-07-19T18:32:46 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-19T19:19:20 Bahhumbug: yes/no, I make 'just enough' to survive basically 2013-07-19T19:19:31 i'd have more if i had a room mate, obviously 2013-07-19T19:19:54 but I apprecitate my 'alone' space, etc 2013-07-19T19:20:19 and Vandy is paying the 45k/year in tuition, and ~10k in health insurance for me 2013-07-19T19:21:04 if I had to pay THOSE... then ... yeah... I'd need to be making a LOT more than that plant... 2013-07-19T19:23:38