2013-07-11T00:19:31 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odHEC-nu8nA 2013-07-11T00:19:32 Title: Vandy BME 258-- We Get Knocked Down (Principles of MRI) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-07-11T00:19:42 Vandy Med Center needs some people who can sing... 2013-07-11T00:19:48 lol 2013-07-11T00:20:24 just read the conversation bashing python but praising php 2013-07-11T00:20:34 y u no love my pseudocode? 2013-07-11T00:20:49 I thought that went the other way around. 2013-07-11T00:21:02 I was half asleep though 2013-07-11T00:24:54 I had a php interview the other week that I failed miserably 2013-07-11T00:25:05 granted...I think they did it in a pretty stupid way 2013-07-11T00:25:19 howso? 2013-07-11T00:25:23 had me remote session a windows xp VM, wouldn't let me write the sql to make my DB 2013-07-11T00:25:30 instead they insisted I do it through phpmyadmin 2013-07-11T00:25:48 so I found the tab that let me write sql directly and wrote my query, don't think they liked that 2013-07-11T00:26:13 then it was a browser-based session so none of my OS shortcuts would work 2013-07-11T00:26:57 & about a 300ms delay using the mouse...as I dragged it around to click back and forth between notepad++ and the browser 2013-07-11T00:27:13 couldn't use shift to select text...etc etc 2013-07-11T00:27:58 and not to mention I'd never used php before; had w3schools up on my other monitor 2013-07-11T00:28:20 that seems like the first problem 2013-07-11T00:28:32 lol...honestly it wasn't hard learning it on the fly 2013-07-11T00:28:36 just...the ide...sooo slow 2013-07-11T00:29:03 I didn't get my rejection email until this morning, so about 2 weeks late 2013-07-11T00:29:09 it isn't but having a little experience before you interview on it would be preferred 2013-07-11T00:29:26 and after they said they liked me & had me do some retarded 350+ behavioral questionaire 2013-07-11T00:29:38 so maybe it said I was a sociopath 2013-07-11T00:29:43 lol 2013-07-11T00:29:47 meh, I used django for about a year 2013-07-11T00:29:50 only if it was accurate? 2013-07-11T00:29:54 lol 2013-07-11T00:30:55 tbh I was surprised, the 2 doing the conference with me seemed like they were impressed and sent me an email within 30m saying they wanted to "continue forward" 2013-07-11T00:31:16 so might've been something corporate or some php whiz came along after me 2013-07-11T00:31:33 MECLABS 2013-07-11T00:31:47 http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/deputies-man-grabs-cash-from-register-after-filling-out-job-application/-/11788162/20914328/-/t9dpnnz/-/index.html FLORIDA tag worthy on fark 2013-07-11T00:31:48 Title: Deputies: Man grabs cash from register after filling out job application | Local News - WESH Home (at www.wesh.com) 2013-07-11T00:32:27 ohh nvm... its there already 2013-07-11T00:33:42 I don't think I'd be too happy working with PHP at a job anyways 2013-07-11T00:33:53 I like my python/django/js 2013-07-11T00:34:19 or c/++/asm if I could find something paying well for it (that I'd have a shot in hell of getting an offer) 2013-07-11T01:35:04 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1002814_406532989464165_718463113_n.jpg 2013-07-11T01:40:22 you could look at an embedded place, but it would also depend on your degree, most wont look unless its some sort of compE/EE/sometimes compsci 2013-07-11T01:41:50 but we are a pure C shop, with a tiny tiny bit of asm if your doin kernel work 2013-07-11T01:42:17 well, maybe c++ if your in a certain group, i think we have one that insisted on using c++ in part of the code base 2013-07-11T01:56:07 just read this piece on kryptos that wired ran. from the title I thought someone had finally broken the 4th section but nope. 2013-07-11T02:35:07 http://i.imgur.com/PgW2aZ9.png 2013-07-11T02:35:08 Evilpig: enjoy 2013-07-11T03:21:55 *** v4mp has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T03:28:26 no more feds at defcon 2013-07-11T03:28:29 http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/07/for-first-time-ever-feds-asked-to-sit-out-defcon-hacker-conference/ 2013-07-11T03:28:30 Title: For first time ever, feds asked to sit out Defcon hacker conference | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) 2013-07-11T03:37:29 PROBABLY a good idea seeing as how they've been spying on everyone and now we know about it 2013-07-11T03:44:31 We all knew it before. 2013-07-11T03:45:16 Yeah but we had plausible deniability, and the legislative changes that allowed them to run amok are relatively recent 2013-07-11T03:46:43 Not even. The evidence shows that this has been going on since at least 2000, when Clinton was president, which predates the Patriot Act. 2013-07-11T03:47:14 Corydon76-home: I thought the earliest known instance was Qwest 2013-07-11T03:47:19 What is there from 2000? 2013-07-11T03:47:45 There's a Wall Street Journal article from that time period where it was discussed 2013-07-11T03:47:55 oh interesting 2013-07-11T03:48:11 Do you have a link handy? :) 2013-07-11T03:48:53 *** jonnyx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-11T03:49:53 I'll see if I can find it 2013-07-11T03:49:54 *** jb7od_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-11T03:50:03 *** jonnyx has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T03:50:11 I don't remember if it came across my view via FB or via a mailing list 2013-07-11T03:50:21 *** jb7od_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T03:50:38 http://j.mp/13jmgsk 2013-07-11T03:50:39 Title: Why We Spy on Our Allies - WSJ.com (at j.mp) 2013-07-11T03:51:27 March 17, 2000, was the date of publication 2013-07-11T03:52:29 Heh, the one time I use google to visit a site 2013-07-11T03:52:32 to get around a paywall :p 2013-07-11T03:53:01 I thought Echelon was always foreign? 2013-07-11T03:53:36 No, Echelon sucked up all the data it could find 2013-07-11T03:54:03 I wonder if Echelon morphed into Prism 2013-07-11T03:54:10 It was supposed to be able to analyze the data and only kick out material related to foreign communications 2013-07-11T03:54:10 I remember echelon being this huge thing in 99/2000 2013-07-11T03:54:27 ..... for which everyone called me nuts 2013-07-11T03:55:01 I'm sure it did. Congress defunded it from one branch, and I'm sure it immediately resurfaced in another 2013-07-11T03:55:06 Except it's mostly not particularly effective 2013-07-11T03:55:40 Neither is prism, according to Binney 2013-07-11T03:55:46 There's a great deal of difference between trawling for morons, and the very specific, very nasty targeting of people they were doing on behalf of banks against everyone even remotely resembling someone who might be with Occupy 2013-07-11T03:55:53 Or.... stellar wind? I think? 2013-07-11T03:56:03 I keep telling people that the problem is not that we don't have enough information; the problem is that we haven't been able to analyze it in a timely manner 2013-07-11T03:56:04 I can't remember if he worked on stellar wind or thin thread 2013-07-11T03:56:39 They switched from passively snooping to actively seeking out what amounted to political enemies during the Bush administration 2013-07-11T03:56:42 THAT is some bullshit 2013-07-11T03:57:05 We had ALL of the information beforehand to prevent the 9/11 attacks. We simply were about 5 weeks behind on filtering through the information 2013-07-11T03:57:34 By the time our analysts got to the data which would have prevented the attacks, it was too late. 2013-07-11T03:57:45 Corydon76-home: well, you can always say we have all the information when we're collecting all of it 2013-07-11T03:58:06 I'll note that we have way more processing power now, but the boston bombing still happened 2013-07-11T03:58:16 Well, they managed to be _real_ timely with their investications of everyone going to a protest in the last six years 2013-07-11T03:58:18 Yes, but that's precisely the problem. Signal to noise ratio. 2013-07-11T03:58:42 I imagine that ratio will suck a lot when you're collecting *everything* 2013-07-11T03:59:01 They get to intercept me texting fart jokes to a friend 2013-07-11T03:59:19 Dagmar: that's a little different. They're observing you at the protest, then doing their checks. They know where to look in that case. 2013-07-11T03:59:41 The problem with the 9/11 attacks is knowing where to look beforehand 2013-07-11T04:00:08 Is that the same as the black swan problem? 2013-07-11T04:00:12 Once you have the list of the terrorists, the rest is easy. Finding out who they are is the hard part. 2013-07-11T04:00:21 Once you know the point of incident, it's easy to spot the rest? 2013-07-11T04:01:03 No, it's once you know who the conspirators are, the case can be made fairly easily. 2013-07-11T04:01:58 Even if you knew beforehand that the WTC was the target, that wouldn't have helped you, because the method of attack was from the air, not from the ground. 2013-07-11T04:02:29 but if you have the list of conspirators, you can track down where they are and what they're planning 2013-07-11T04:03:15 Corydon: They were intercepting people _before_ they could get to protests 2013-07-11T04:03:37 They were doing a LOT more than just looking at people's past data trails 2013-07-11T04:03:48 Dagmar: I have little doubt that Occupy was infiltrated fairly early on 2013-07-11T04:04:19 Occupy is not hard to "infiltrate", it's open 2013-07-11T04:04:37 People who were being very quiet about things, on the other hand, were getting proactively popped on a regular basis 2013-07-11T04:05:10 What I meant was, once you're in the stream of communication, you know what the entry points are, so you can interdict before participants get to the protest 2013-07-11T04:05:36 ...and that amounts to both censorship, and some serious orwellian crap 2013-07-11T04:05:44 Not that I think that infiltrating Occupy was the best use of department resources 2013-07-11T04:06:29 Well, but the question is what they thought Occupy might do. 2013-07-11T04:06:56 If they thought it might turn violent, then making people aware they were watching should be enough to prevent the violence 2013-07-11T04:07:26 Bullshit. They had people in jail before they ever could get to that point. 2013-07-11T04:07:42 Who did, though? The feds or the local cops? 2013-07-11T04:07:47 The feds 2013-07-11T04:08:08 Weird 2013-07-11T04:08:24 I'd expect that from the local cops, not the feds 2013-07-11T04:08:35 I kept seeing reports of people who were planning to essentiall crash Bush political shindigs getting popped. People who were going to run around with slogan signs at financial conferences, same thing 2013-07-11T04:09:10 Feds should know better than to do anything other than passively intimidating. 2013-07-11T04:09:19 Evilpig: Somehow Ben has decided that Unix on call is the defacto point of support for the fucking DSL line in the NOC 2013-07-11T04:09:21 Local cops tend to be the ones intruding on civil liberties 2013-07-11T04:10:12 ...and yet they're not really good with suppressing political dissent. 2013-07-11T04:10:13 *** jb7od_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-11T04:10:17 Oh, you're talking Secret Service, now, not FBI. 2013-07-11T04:10:51 DHS and the FBI, on the other hand, just had to make a thin argument they might be a "domestic terrorist" and they could and would go to town on someone's life history 2013-07-11T04:11:08 SS is a whole other ball of wax. They tend to do things like harassing you until POTUS is clear 2013-07-11T04:11:24 FFS no I am not talking about the Secret Service 2013-07-11T04:11:58 Sounds like Bush was abusing the FBI, then 2013-07-11T04:12:06 NOW you get it 2013-07-11T04:12:24 That was very clear 2013-07-11T04:12:50 I wasn't aware Occupy got started until after the Obama inauguration, though 2013-07-11T04:13:05 I'm not sure if they're still doing it (and fuck whoever reads it) but it's the reason I wouldn't go near Occupy Nashville, even though Ava's a friend of mine 2013-07-11T04:13:23 The crash only occurred in September of 2008, less than 60 days before the election 2013-07-11T04:13:38 *** jb7od_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T04:13:56 yes, that's then BofA start pulling in poltiical favors to get the FBI to do their bidding 2013-07-11T04:14:04 ...since they were already being used as tools for oppression. 2013-07-11T04:14:23 Anyway, I need to head to bed. 2013-07-11T04:14:31 vagina 2013-07-11T04:14:51 I prefer a tight ass 2013-07-11T05:02:27 *** RangerZ1 has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T05:02:38 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-11T05:08:03 *** jonnyx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-07-11T05:10:08 *** jonnyx has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T05:37:19 *** MinecraftRelay has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-11T05:38:14 *** Shadow404 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-11T05:38:23 *** Evilpig has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-11T05:50:43 *** Evilpig has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T05:50:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Evilpig 2013-07-11T05:50:52 *** Shadow404 has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T05:54:06 *** MinecraftRelay has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T05:55:50 *** jonnyx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-11T05:55:55 *** jonny_X has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T06:26:57 *** jonnyx has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T06:28:21 *** jonny_X has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-11T06:45:29 *** benthemeek1 has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T06:48:05 *** benthemeek has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-11T06:52:09 *** benthemeek1 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-11T06:53:40 *** benthemeek has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T06:53:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o benthemeek 2013-07-11T07:13:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Shadow404 2013-07-11T07:41:23 *** Dolemite has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T07:41:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dolemite 2013-07-11T07:41:24 mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 2013-07-11T07:48:38 Evilpig: y0 2013-07-11T07:48:52 I see you like error logs, so I put some error logs in your error logs. 2013-07-11T08:00:26 *** benthemeek has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-11T08:01:04 *** benthemeek has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T08:01:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o benthemeek 2013-07-11T08:08:50 Dolemite: yeah yeah. I just pushed up the nights work 2013-07-11T08:08:53 one more down 2013-07-11T08:09:01 two to go, then the hunt for the random one offs 2013-07-11T08:09:33 I looked at the device you showed in the errors and realized - the Refresh button for VM's shouldn't even be active if there's no IP or community - or did you remove those after you ran the tests? 2013-07-11T08:09:54 it has an IP and a community. they just failed 2013-07-11T08:10:03 oh nm it doesn't 2013-07-11T08:10:29 I don't recall taking that check out but anything is possible with the shear amount of stuff i've been doing 2013-07-11T08:10:33 clear; grep -i mysql_query\( ./* -R 2013-07-11T08:10:47 there is the to do list after the other two includes are done 2013-07-11T08:13:03 and now i'm gonna go get me a muffin 2013-07-11T08:14:53 btw this made me lol. rewrite customers.inc.php (64%) 2013-07-11T08:14:58 Do you know the muffin man? 2013-07-11T08:15:22 yeah. it's the fat chick at kroger. ;) 2013-07-11T08:21:10 Evilpig: Does she have a fuller beard than you do? 2013-07-11T08:21:32 no, but she's rockin' that hairnet 2013-07-11T09:47:26 *** Iyeman has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-11T10:28:32 *** polerin has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T10:28:42 WOW LEFT TESTICALAESES. 2013-07-11T10:44:53 *** polerin has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-11T10:47:45 *** polerin has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T10:51:56 Dagmar: you've got an asshat on campus headed for mayborn 2013-07-11T10:54:24 were all the multi-hacks destroyed or did mirage pull them off? 2013-07-11T11:01:16 Dunno. I know Mirage is the one who flipped it. 2013-07-11T11:01:48 Nevermind. Mirage just said he took those off. 2013-07-11T11:01:51 *sigh* 2013-07-11T11:02:07 He apparently decided they were "broken" because he thought you were supposed to be able to hack them multiple times in a row 2013-07-11T11:03:13 Recharge if you can 2013-07-11T11:03:16 yeah and docbrew has been out there for hte last thirty minutes working toward y;all. I can put on clothes and come up there and put multihacks on again 2013-07-11T11:03:40 Don't bother. He's already blown off one of the resonators 2013-07-11T11:03:53 if you have an ada flip it 2013-07-11T11:04:01 Can't. 2013-07-11T11:04:03 He already killed it 2013-07-11T11:04:28 now tell troy why it was blue and shame him 2013-07-11T11:04:42 at least we got four full days of farming out of it 2013-07-11T11:04:47 He must have burned a shitton of stuff recycling because hte zaps should have stopped him cold otherwise 2013-07-11T11:04:55 I poured an additional 10k XM into it 2013-07-11T11:05:01 they have power cubes out the ass 2013-07-11T11:05:07 I'm not suprised 2013-07-11T11:05:14 With having bots farming I'm sure they do 2013-07-11T11:05:40 I do want to do some specific testing to see if the mod drop rate is indeed higher on lower level portals though 2013-07-11T11:08:47 How much has the game changed recently? I haven't had any time whatsoever to play 2013-07-11T11:11:15 quite a bit actually 2013-07-11T11:11:32 but you're still a smurf and we're still outnumbered a good 4:1 so just stay where you are 2013-07-11T11:12:30 heh 2013-07-11T11:13:32 you could be helpful and befriend the floater and get him to show you his modified client or his second account where he's impersonating me so we can get him banned though. ;) we'll forgive your smurfy ways for such a task 2013-07-11T11:21:37 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T11:21:48 why am I still awake? bah. 2013-07-11T11:44:16 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T11:48:12 *** jonny_X has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T11:49:54 *** jonnyx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-11T11:52:25 polerin: To put it bluntly, the state of the game is that the "head" smurfs have been continuing a policy of being bully douchebags, and a number of people (including me) actually quit the Nashville Ingress United forum because it was only serving as a place for them to "troll" anyone who complained about their harassment and intimidation tactics 2013-07-11T11:52:38 polerin: They suffer from only-child syndrome in the worst way. 2013-07-11T11:53:08 polerin: When I quit, I made sure to go post a message on my personal G+ page saying point blank that they should simply _run_ if they see me, and to under no circumstances attempt to talk to me. 2013-07-11T11:53:41 They completely do not realize that if they get in my face and talk shit, or if they get in my face and try to claim their completely toxic behaviour is "only trolling" that I will push a motherfucker into traffic if they don't leave me alone 2013-07-11T11:55:05 polerin: It's also come to light that at least four of the "leaders" are using multiple accounts, some with both R and E extra accounts, and that HandlerExploit is very definitely cheating with a modified client. 2013-07-11T11:55:36 If they keep it up and Niantic refuses to intervene, this will eventually escalate into a professional hack on our part, and that will break the game. 2013-07-11T11:56:47 A good example of the bullshit that's going on is that apparently Tryonnicus lives in a condoplex for entitled bitches down in Franklin, which is "lightly gated" in that they have a largely ornamental guard station at the front 2013-07-11T11:57:06 They submitted a few portals _inside the grounds_, which clearly they themselves consider to be non-public. 2013-07-11T11:57:37 Carsmart rolled over there this weekend to take the portal out, Tyronnicus actually called the police and tried to claim he was trespassing. 2013-07-11T11:58:28 It wasn't a bluff, the police actually came out and apparently circled around the condoplex for a good 20 minutes 2013-07-11T11:58:51 Don't mention this shit to them. 2013-07-11T11:59:13 Niantic really needs to ban about five guys and that will cull the worst of the anti-social behaviour 2013-07-11T11:59:36 ...and if people tell them everything, they're likely to modify their antics temporarily so as to avoid getting the fuck banned. 2013-07-11T11:59:48 ...and then we'll be back to "I will personall ruin this game" 2013-07-11T12:02:48 s/all/ally/ 2013-07-11T12:12:27 yes SKype... Thanks.. I'm aware its my ex's birthday... but I DON'T need you to remind me... 2013-07-11T12:13:22 Did you send her a card? 2013-07-11T12:36:15 nah, lol 2013-07-11T12:37:22 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-07-11T13:23:21 Hmmm... for those not paying attention at home, looks like the prosecution is getting desperate in the Zimmerman trial. http://tinyurl.com/l82egjw 2013-07-11T13:23:42 *** oddball_ is now known as oddball 2013-07-11T13:23:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o oddball 2013-07-11T13:25:41 http://slashdot.org/story/13/07/11/1429257/steve-ballmer-reorganizing-microsoft wow... "The company's product portfolio — from Windows and Xbox to enterprise applications — will be regarded and operated upon in a holistic manner." wow... so they don't want to hold marketshare apparently 2013-07-11T13:25:42 Title: Steve Ballmer Reorganizing Microsoft - Slashdot (at slashdot.org) 2013-07-11T13:25:55 Evilpig and Dagmar: Just so you know, one of the players here in Knoxville has family in Middle TN that plays, and is a smurf, and even they feel like the resistance in Middle TN is a bunch of douche bags. 2013-07-11T13:28:09 RangerZ: Wait wait wait... forcing square, round, and star-shaped pegs through a triangular hole is supposed to create an "engineering culture?" 2013-07-11T13:29:23 `*shrugs* I don't have an MBA ... so "I'm not qualified" to discuss tech people 2013-07-11T13:50:05 Dolemite: Dude, you know I have the patience of Job in a lot of things. I don't need anyone to validate that there are about 6-8 smurfs here who are in need of a major ass-beating 2013-07-11T13:50:28 Yes, but I thought I'd pass along that it's apparent to even people on the same team as the douche bags. 2013-07-11T13:51:13 damn it Dolemite... Dagmar is on a role ranting, don't agree with him ;) 2013-07-11T13:51:21 Dolemite: I tried for *weeks* in the Nashville Ingress United forum to encourage someone, anyone on that side, to demonstrate some "leadership" skills and speak out against the bad behaviour. All I got was little internet tough guys trying to get in my face. 2013-07-11T13:51:37 There are smurfs *here* who I know think these guys are being douchebags. 2013-07-11T13:51:55 It's clear by the fact that they've gone from being some of hte most active to simply nowhere to be seen 2013-07-11T13:52:24 Now it's kinda just which one is going to be stupid enough to try and track me down on the street 2013-07-11T13:53:00 ping Corydon76-home 2013-07-11T13:53:10 pong 2013-07-11T13:54:13 *** NotLarry_ is now known as NotLarry 2013-07-11T13:54:42 Dagmar: am now taking to two people who have been suspended by G+ recently 2013-07-11T13:54:48 As in in the last month 2013-07-11T13:55:03 They probably are using a name they're _only_ using on G+ 2013-07-11T13:55:33 one of them is "Ms Naughty", a sex worker 2013-07-11T13:55:47 The other is a guy named Jamie Sport. That's his legal name, and Google doesn't believe it 2013-07-11T13:55:48 aestetix: have you thought about people who NEED to keep their names/etc unserachable 2013-07-11T13:55:54 *** brimstone has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-11T13:55:57 RangerZ: yep 2013-07-11T13:56:00 aestetix: dafuq? on the second one 2013-07-11T13:56:01 such as lawyers, judges, PO officers 2013-07-11T13:56:29 RangerZ: I talked to a guy who has a fake name on his drivers license because he helped put a criminal in jail, and when the criminal got out, he came after him 2013-07-11T13:56:40 That guy has a long discussion with police every time he gets pulled over 2013-07-11T13:56:50 aestetix: That shit's going to happen occasionally, but he should include in his rebuttal a request to know which pinheaded knobgoblin is trying to stir up shit for him by claiming it's not his name 2013-07-11T13:57:19 aestetix: ...and how do the cops know his name is fake? 2013-07-11T13:57:49 Dagmar: I'd have to ask him for details. I think it's because when they run him in the system, the name is different from the name printed on his ID 2013-07-11T13:58:14 That shoudln't happen. He needs to sort out the name change paperwork 2013-07-11T13:58:27 https://twitter.com/JamieSport/status/354528410602700800 2013-07-11T13:58:28 Title: Twitter / JamieSport: Email from Google+: "After ... (at twitter.com) 2013-07-11T13:58:52 Dagmar: again, I have to ask him for the details. 2013-07-11T13:59:12 Someone failed utterly on the Sport issue 2013-07-11T13:59:23 I have friends of the family who are judges back home, and their home phone #s are very 'secret' info, as is anything with pics of them in it, etc 2013-07-11T13:59:55 anything that might accidentally give away their home address 2013-07-11T14:00:07 aestetix: His G+ profile seems to be working fine tho 2013-07-11T14:00:54 Google his name once and you'll see his Twitter (with pic), his LinkedIn profile, and his G+ feed. All of which seem to contain the same data 2013-07-11T14:01:31 They probably think someone is impersonating himn. 2013-07-11T14:03:17 Interesting. 2013-07-11T14:03:29 Dagmar: I emailed him asking for info. 2013-07-11T14:03:43 *** Synx|hm has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T14:04:09 *** Synx|hm is now known as Guest51315 2013-07-11T14:05:01 *** Guest51315 has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-07-11T14:05:29 *** Synx|hm_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T14:05:35 https://twitter.com/msnaughty/status/355116768886390784 2013-07-11T14:05:36 Title: Twitter / msnaughty: @michaelerard @aestetix Im ... (at twitter.com) 2013-07-11T14:05:38 there's ms naughty 2013-07-11T14:06:55 Dagmar: the actual issue AFAICT is that it's more effective to bitch about a suspension on twitter than to fill out the appeals form 2013-07-11T14:06:57 She's going to have a problem on her hands 2013-07-11T14:07:21 It's really sad when informal procedures work way better than the "official" ones 2013-07-11T14:07:34 I can see right there on the ill-advised background for her Twitter feed "http://www.facebook.com/louise..." 2013-07-11T14:08:04 If she were using MsNaughty on Facebook, she might stand a chance 2013-07-11T14:09:58 Whats a good free distro for securtiy cam monitoring 2013-07-11T14:10:06 ZoneMinder? 2013-07-11T14:10:11 really i only have one cam and i want to use it as a baby monitor 2013-07-11T14:10:26 so maybe i dont need any of this haha 2013-07-11T14:11:20 Dagmar: the best way I could see for Google to improve their policy 2013-07-11T14:11:47 Is if every suspension were backed up by a reason. For example, account impersonation, including the complaint. Or suspected criminal behavior. 2013-07-11T14:11:51 Well, ZoneMinder has a bunch of stuff in it for analyzing hte image in realtime 2013-07-11T14:12:14 Like you can set alarms to trigger only on hotzones in the cameras view, so the kid could do the macarena all night IN THE CRIB. 2013-07-11T14:12:23 If they climb out, KLAXONS AND GUARD DOGS 2013-07-11T14:12:27 sweet 2013-07-11T14:12:29 ill check that out 2013-07-11T14:13:01 i need to find a old link too that had code that could monitor pulse by checking contrast and blood fill in the face 2013-07-11T14:13:07 was really cool think it was MIT 2013-07-11T14:13:35 They made a huge deal out of that technology recently 2013-07-11T14:14:29 im about to have my first kid in about a week so it would be slick to have setup if i could figure it out 2013-07-11T14:14:36 i remember there was some demo code with it 2013-07-11T14:15:08 ...and should the child manage to turn away from the camera, you will have an excellent reason to have night terrors. 2013-07-11T14:15:10 Stick with ZoneMinder. 2013-07-11T14:15:17 well fuck 2013-07-11T14:15:17 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data 2013-07-11T14:15:18 Title: Revealed: how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages | World news | guardian.co.uk (at www.guardian.co.uk) 2013-07-11T14:15:44 Every businessman in the world is now going "uh wtf?" 2013-07-11T14:18:00 What I like is how freely they mention interdepartmental work between the NSA and the FBI 2013-07-11T14:18:16 Someone arguing "Oh that's the FBI not the NSA" doesn't have a fucking leg to stand on 2013-07-11T14:18:54 They're both simply doing whatever the fuck they want, brazenly, knowing full well that if there's ever a problem, someone will scribble up an NSL and make it all go away. 2013-07-11T14:19:50 it doesn't matter which fucking spook agency is up to a particular misdeed. They're all sharing information between them quite willingly. 2013-07-11T14:20:10 ...and this is the engine of damnation they have been using to suppress dissent. 2013-07-11T14:20:35 Microsoft's response in there is a load of shit 2013-07-11T14:20:38 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T14:21:09 Of course they don't need to respond to broad-sweeping requests. They've already given out the fucking keys to their site and an ethertap 2013-07-11T14:21:52 Man I love watching the NSA's grip on things unravel. 2013-07-11T14:22:01 ...and if there was a fucking oversight team actually doing a fucking thing in all this, AND ABLE TO KEEP UP, then how it is a problem these fuckers can' get warrants? 2013-07-11T14:22:27 *** brimstone has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T14:22:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o brimstone 2013-07-11T14:22:42 If an oversight team is supposed to be able to keep up with the shit after the fact, then they shoudl certainly be able to review these sorts of broad sweeping efforts in advance 2013-07-11T14:23:37 "The agency already had pre-encryption stage access to email on Outlook.com, including Hotmail;" 2013-07-11T14:24:00 This means they had access to everything as it came into the system. They didn't need to ask anyone at Microsoft to go ferret anything out. 2013-07-11T14:25:08 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-07-11T14:25:35 is this a new leak? 2013-07-11T14:27:45 Nope. The same stuff no one's actually reading 2013-07-11T14:28:33 Dagmar: it's more details. 2013-07-11T14:29:08 I think we already have enough details. 2013-07-11T14:29:15 No one's going to do a fucking thing. 2013-07-11T14:29:34 For my part, I'm going to start encouraging people to encrypt fucking everything. 2013-07-11T14:29:41 Everything, everywhere, all the fucking time. 2013-07-11T14:29:42 but are these details or someone reading between the lines, i dont see any ref material in this article 2013-07-11T14:29:54 "HTTPS because FUCK FASCISM" 2013-07-11T14:30:54 Synx|hm_: LIke they're going to be able to reference a URL with a site conveniently hosting documents the gov't will immediately declare formally to be purloined state secrets and start throwing webmasters and datacenter managers into underground prison cells. 2013-07-11T14:31:21 haha fine fine, i was just hoping for more slide release from that prism deck 2013-07-11T14:31:40 im tired of reading the same shit over and over thats people reading into the already released slides 2013-07-11T14:32:03 i've seen the slides i can read into them myself i dont need a new article once a fucking week with some "NEW AMAZING FINDINGS" 2013-07-11T14:32:26 all that aside, i know guardian has all the slides so maybe they are releasing a bit more info from other slides 2013-07-11T14:33:30 Just don't use Outlook to encrypt it :p 2013-07-11T14:34:02 Synx|hm_: you realize you are not the target market for this? 2013-07-11T14:34:15 This is much more for the folks who don't care, to show why they should care :) 2013-07-11T14:34:32 ya im just being pissy, been one of those days 2013-07-11T14:36:42 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T14:39:29 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/nsa-director-black-hat-hackers-defcon 2013-07-11T14:39:31 Title: NSA director Keith Alexander to speak at hacker conference in Las Vegas | World news | guardian.co.uk (at www.guardian.co.uk) 2013-07-11T14:39:59 ballsy move 2013-07-11T14:41:22 again? 2013-07-11T14:41:31 ohh 2013 2013-07-11T14:41:48 Synx|hm_: that was already set a while ago 2013-07-11T14:42:04 ahh 2013-07-11T14:42:17 and it would look like running if they cancelled it 2013-07-11T14:42:19 lol 2013-07-11T14:43:07 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-11T14:49:34 https://github.com/thearn/webcam-pulse-detector 2013-07-11T14:49:47 thats what i was looking for 2013-07-11T14:53:54 Dr. Tyson can not attend phreaknic this year because "he is in production of the new Cosmos TV series and his schedule does not permit." 2013-07-11T15:08:41 Also: Who are you freaks? :P 2013-07-11T15:16:57 *** benthemeek1 has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T15:23:21 *** MinecraftRelay2 has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T15:30:58 *** benthemeek has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-11T15:30:59 *** MinecraftRelay has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-11T15:30:59 *** eryc has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-11T15:31:28 Were you actually trying to invite Dr. Tyson or did you just want info on Cosmos II? 2013-07-11T15:33:45 *** Dolemite has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-07-11T15:43:33 *** eryc has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T15:43:36 *** rattleX has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T15:43:43 *** eryc has quit IRC (Changing host) 2013-07-11T15:43:43 *** eryc has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T15:43:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o eryc 2013-07-11T15:46:22 *** frsilent_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T15:47:01 *** Shadow405 has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T15:47:03 *** vaneck_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T15:48:30 *** jim_ec2_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T15:48:51 *** opticron_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T15:48:54 *** Synx|hm_ is now known as Synx|hm 2013-07-11T15:50:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o opticron_ 2013-07-11T15:50:33 *** opticron has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) 2013-07-11T15:50:38 *** opticron_ is now known as opticron 2013-07-11T15:52:42 *** frsilent has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-11T15:52:43 *** rattle has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-11T15:52:43 *** jim_ec2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-11T15:52:43 *** vaneck has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-11T15:52:43 *** Shadow404 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-07-11T15:55:11 jonny_X: I invite everyone... 2013-07-11T15:55:33 You don't think he would be fun to drink wi, er, listen to? 2013-07-11T16:57:21 mod_security is such an evil piece of shit 2013-07-11T17:08:49 *** K4k has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1) 2013-07-11T17:09:49 Dagmar: yes. Yes, it is. 2013-07-11T17:10:51 is mod_security the apahce module that checks for sql injection? 2013-07-11T17:12:35 It's one of them. It's the primary one people use 2013-07-11T17:12:46 The problem is they change the way they parse their shit every release 2013-07-11T17:12:57 ...and they don't necessarily explain *what* those changes were. 2013-07-11T17:13:30 In this instance, we have new websevers that are ignoring out attempts at whitelisting some things, and are loggin each and every fucking rule every time the LTM touches the server to see if it's still up. 2013-07-11T17:13:56 As a result, we have approximately 50 minutes of log retention, because the volume it always over the log rotation threshold. 2013-07-11T17:14:42 Figuring, "Hey, I resolved this the last time without a big mess" I just imported the modsecurity_00_whitelist.conf file, added it to be loaded first, restarted Apache... 2013-07-11T17:14:48 It no longer logged every single rule. 2013-07-11T17:15:02 It instead logged the line I was using to tell it to not log things. 2013-07-11T17:15:13 That was just fucking mean. 2013-07-11T17:15:51 I kid you not it actually logged: 2013-07-11T17:16:02 SecRule "REMOTE_ADDR" "@streq 10.10.10.10" "phase:1,auditlog,nolog,allow,ctl:ruleEngine=Off" 2013-07-11T17:16:49 I'm going to wait until after-hours tonight and get creative with it, but it looks like it either now no longer accepts double-quotes around the list of options, or these rules must come after the crs (core rule set) file. 2013-07-11T17:17:04 In previous releases the whitelist rules had to come first, and before that, they had to come last. 2013-07-11T17:17:29 I fail to see how requiring people to add an id=(######) argument to each line (required in 2.7.x) is going to help a fucking thing 2013-07-11T17:24:27 *** frsilent_ is now known as frsilent 2013-07-11T17:24:57 *** frsilent is now known as Guest17301 2013-07-11T17:27:53 *** benthemeek1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-11T17:48:06 *** rattleX is now known as rattle 2013-07-11T17:48:13 *** rattle has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T17:48:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rattle 2013-07-11T17:48:18 I'm fucking loving the Defcon drama. 2013-07-11T17:48:25 The layers of irony. 2013-07-11T17:48:28 LAYERS 2013-07-11T17:48:36 ?? I haven't paid attention 2013-07-11T17:48:41 the nsa guy again? 2013-07-11T17:48:52 Is Alexander speaking or not? 2013-07-11T17:49:09 (I've not been following it past seeing various "headlines". 2013-07-11T17:49:15 Well? One, in a universe far far away.. Hackers were not welcome in Fed circles because of legally questionable activities. 2013-07-11T17:49:42 Now, in the year of two zero one three, Feds are not welcome in Hacker circles because of legally questionable activities. 2013-07-11T17:50:07 For that alone, I've got reason to giggle for hours and hours. 2013-07-11T17:50:10 heh 2013-07-11T17:51:09 For another layer of irony, this one sadder.. Dark Tangent just gave the feds the cover they needed to not show up and be subject to the rabble pissed at them. 2013-07-11T17:51:31 *** jonnyx has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T17:51:33 The big take away, is simply that everyone should die in a fire. 2013-07-11T17:51:49 Myself included. 2013-07-11T17:52:05 *** jonny_X has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-11T17:53:21 By everyone do you mean the NSA? 2013-07-11T17:54:05 The hacking community for cheering in the idea of shutting out the feds. The feds for their lack of rigor regarding transparency and oversight. And me, simply because I'm tired. 2013-07-11T17:54:14 s/in/on/ 2013-07-11T17:55:27 I'm not cheering on shutting out the feds, so much as ceasing to cater to them. 2013-07-11T17:55:31 Which is what DefCon *was* doing. 2013-07-11T17:58:09 Anyway, I'm enjoying the drama. I suppose I'm one of those men Alfred was talking about. 2013-07-11T17:58:27 Alfred? 2013-07-11T17:58:59 I was trying to make a clever reference to the "Some men just want to watch the world burn" Batman thing. 2013-07-11T17:59:06 ohh 2013-07-11T17:59:31 For fucks sake, it wasn't Shakespeare. :) 2013-07-11T17:59:31 Wait, shouldn't you support wikileaks then? ;) 2013-07-11T18:00:06 Touch? 2013-07-11T18:02:07 Leave it to the man who's trying to look like Guy Fawkes without need of a mask to point out my hypocrisy. 2013-07-11T18:02:49 Hey I just like moustaches. 2013-07-11T18:03:34 That said, I am also enjoying the defcon world kind of burning 2013-07-11T18:03:47 You going to be there this year? 2013-07-11T18:03:58 Nope, I"m speaking at OHM 2013-07-11T18:04:03 Which is having its own set of drama 2013-07-11T18:04:14 And we're already bracing for potential drama at HOPE 2014 2013-07-11T18:04:34 Drama seems to be the one thing everyone has in common this year. 2013-07-11T18:05:19 And it's different from every other year, how? 2013-07-11T18:05:30 *** Guest17301 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2013-07-11T18:05:35 This scene has cycles of drama. 2013-07-11T18:05:50 I would argue that previous years have not had the distributed beehive known as twitter. 2013-07-11T18:05:52 *** frsilent_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T18:06:12 Twitter seems to be making all the drama way worse 2013-07-11T18:06:17 Sometimes the drama happens before the con, during the con, after the con? But the consistent thing appears to be the drama itself. 2013-07-11T18:06:51 so http://nsa.gov does not redirect to http://www.nsa.gov. Dagmar picked up my phone and told them to get the webmaster to fix that. It still does not work. Maybe he didn't use the right fertilizer keyword... 2013-07-11T18:07:14 Title: Welcome to the National Security Agency - NSA/CSS (at www.nsa.gov) 2013-07-11T18:07:20 That said, I'm now working on a firefox plugin to add a FUCK_THE_NSA http header to all web requests I make :) 2013-07-11T18:07:35 actually I can probably just use an existing plugin 2013-07-11T18:07:57 You're better off including a copyright header and a license of implied consent 2013-07-11T18:08:15 No reason I can't do both 2013-07-11T18:08:28 I have a plugin that changes all instances of "the cloud" to "my butt". Makes tech articles readable again. Occasionally really funny. 2013-07-11T18:08:50 Contemplating extending it to turn "Big Data" into "Heavy D". 2013-07-11T18:09:23 Something to the effect of "This copyright entitles me to receive a copy of all requests stored on demand. If you choose not to accept this license, your only recourse is to delete all stored requests with this signature" 2013-07-11T18:11:43 Or: storing this information for any period longer than the time it takes to send this request to its destination and back requires a licensing fee of $5 per request. Kindly remit licensing fees to:
." 2013-07-11T18:14:12 I'm sure you could get a lawyer to proof the language and come up with something fairly binding. And the next time a whistleblower does a dump, and you see those headers in the dump, you can sue the NSA, and subpoena their entire database to examine it for further licensing fees left unpaid. 2013-07-11T18:14:27 Corydon76-home: how does this look 2013-07-11T18:14:29 GET / HTTP/1.1 2013-07-11T18:14:29 Host: localhost:4567 2013-07-11T18:14:29 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 2013-07-11T18:14:32 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 2013-07-11T18:14:35 Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5 2013-07-11T18:14:37 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate 2013-07-11T18:14:39 Use pastebin 2013-07-11T18:14:40 FUCK_THE_NSA: This copyright entitles me to receive a copy of all requests stored on demand. If you choose not to accept this license, your only recourse is to delete all stored requests with this signature 2013-07-11T18:14:44 Connection: keep-alive 2013-07-11T18:14:52 sorry 2013-07-11T18:15:14 I'd go with a header like "Licensing:" 2013-07-11T18:16:29 And your "FUCK_THE_NSA" header should include a body of text that can fairly be represented as expressive text, so you have a work that you can claim copyright over without challenge. 2013-07-11T18:17:10 While licensing text is interesting, I doubt you can claim copyright over it, as the words tend to be functional, not expressive, which can cause a copyright to be invalidated. 2013-07-11T18:17:41 Similarly, since the rest of the headers are functional in nature, you cannot claim copyright over them. 2013-07-11T18:18:37 Your body of expressive text can be as simple as a haiku, since a poem is expressive. 2013-07-11T18:19:35 Or as complex as a rant against the NSA. You just have to make sure that they are your words, not anybody else's, so you can properly claim a copyright. 2013-07-11T18:20:13 * aestetix nods 2013-07-11T18:22:28 Also, check the RFCs to see if anybody else has proposed a licensing header. The more clearly you denote terms of your licensing, the less able they are to claim an innocent mistake. 2013-07-11T18:23:09 If there's a standard and you follow it, then legally, it's more problematic for the NSA at the lawsuit stage. 2013-07-11T18:23:20 good idea 2013-07-11T18:24:04 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-07-11T18:31:46 Hmm. 2013-07-11T18:32:06 Corydon76-home: so if I have a header that says "FUCK_THE_NSA" and the content is a poem I wrote, and then I declare the poem to be copyrighted... 2013-07-11T18:32:30 Would that technically require places to split the poem away from the rest of the header? 2013-07-11T18:32:39 You don't need to declare it copyrighted; it's copyrighted by default 2013-07-11T18:32:43 Because I can dish out a really sappy NSA love poem 2013-07-11T18:32:44 ok 2013-07-11T18:33:46 If you really want to piss them off, lace your poem with words that you know are red-flags 2013-07-11T18:34:06 hahaha 2013-07-11T18:37:25 Roses are red, violets are bomb, iran and syria love echelon 2013-07-11T18:49:52 But wait, can we really sue the nsa and get any result other than states secrets? 2013-07-11T18:50:11 Can't they just say "we can't talk about that, goodby." 2013-07-11T18:52:46 I know when I tried to get my medical records from the military for participation in a class action I was told they were destroyed in a fire. A few years later when the VA lost a hard drive to the wild I got a letter explaining my medical records had been on that drive. I think they can do what they want right? 2013-07-11T19:21:58 The VA is a different story. I don't think they know where half of their records are. 2013-07-11T19:24:02 But in order to work the theory Aestetix has, the NSA would have to suffer another disclosure, first, of records that include his copyrighted work. Then, he has enough evidence to pursue a lawsuit on the basis of copyright infringement 2013-07-11T19:25:48 But the purpose of this isn't to look at what else they may be storing. The purpose it to make it economically non-viable for them to continue to drag such a wide net 2013-07-11T19:32:05 *** frsilent_ is now known as frsilent 2013-07-11T19:32:14 *** frsilent has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T19:34:39 Fuck. Fucking fuckity fuck. After months of back and forth negotiations, I can officially report that Buzz Aldrin is not attending Dragon*Con this year. I'm going to go stomp around the house and swear a bit more. 2013-07-11T19:34:53 lol 2013-07-11T19:35:26 You have no idea how hard we worked on this, and how tough it was to keep my mouth shut. 2013-07-11T19:36:02 what's the issue with him? 2013-07-11T19:38:23 Couldn't say, even if I knew; negotiations between agents / official reps and the DCon owners are kept quiet. 2013-07-11T19:39:21 oh, for some reason I read your profanity as joyous 2013-07-11T19:39:37 like he'd been a pain in the ass or something 2013-07-11T19:41:37 so does anyone do any c/++ on a windows platform? visual studio's lack of intellisense is a pain in the ass but I don't really want to shell out for visual assist or going to slickedit 2013-07-11T19:41:48 Nonononono. Aldrin's a Big Damn Hero! There are a number of people I'd cheerfully murder for a chance to hang out with him (and being a Space Track guest, I would have had a lot of access to the guy). 2013-07-11T19:41:49 & would prefer not to have to pirate anything just yet 2013-07-11T19:42:20 * jonnyx sighs 2013-07-11T19:42:40 jonnyx: Yeah I figured you'd like the guy but just read your text with the wrong emotion (damn ambiguity of vulgarity) 2013-07-11T19:42:43 Sometimes we get the big guests, sometimes we don't. 2013-07-11T19:44:09 I'll probably watch the youtube vid of him decking the UFO/moon-landing-hoax conspiracy nut who wouldn't get out of his face to cheer myself up. 2013-07-11T19:44:58 ...and stomp around the house a bit more. And swear. Wake up the damn lazy cats if nothing else, make 'em move around a bit... 2013-07-11T19:47:26 jonnyx: DCon should kick out all the feds 2013-07-11T19:52:30 =\ http://www.jetbrains.com/resharper/demos/presentation/codingSession/CodingSession.wmv 2013-07-11T19:52:50 most annoying video effect and worst use of a Prodigy bgmusic I've seen yet 2013-07-11T19:58:36 * aestetix starts to read scrollback 2013-07-11T20:00:52 it's always an adventure for me 2013-07-11T20:14:21 *** Iyeman has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T20:14:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Iyeman 2013-07-11T20:18:49 Corydon76-home: there is that. 2013-07-11T20:18:54 Mostly I'm doing it for the lulz. 2013-07-11T20:22:12 You're better off doing it for pure sadistic pleasure of putting the NSA is a tough spot 2013-07-11T20:22:59 *** v4mp has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T20:23:11 If that happens to come along as well, great. 2013-07-11T20:38:35 Hell, might as well blame the cats for being hairy while you're at it. 2013-07-11T20:38:35 hey, does anyone know what happened with regard to that google outage yesterday? 2013-07-11T20:38:45 peering issue? (wasn't able to connect to chan for other reasons) 2013-07-11T20:41:02 I didn't look into it 2013-07-11T20:41:10 I assume they posted something on their dashboard 2013-07-11T20:42:04 negative afaict 2013-07-11T20:49:25 nanog and outages both had long threads on it. 2013-07-11T20:49:31 tl;dr 2013-07-11T20:53:37 *** sasquatc3 has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T20:53:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc3 2013-07-11T20:53:44 k.. thanks.. link off top of your head? or should I just skim their mailing list 2013-07-11T20:53:53 http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en&v=issue&ts=1373605199000&sid=1&iid=96fc551df9323805fe3b69a44f7a6e9a 2013-07-11T20:53:54 Title: Apps Status Dashboard (at www.google.com) 2013-07-11T20:54:21 There's the report. They got the users impacted incorrect, though. 2013-07-11T20:55:55 ok :) 2013-07-11T20:55:58 thanks! really appreciate it 2013-07-11T20:56:02 (^_^) 2013-07-11T20:56:46 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-11T21:04:09 *** v4mp has quit IRC () 2013-07-11T21:06:07 *** sync350 has joined #se2600 2013-07-11T21:06:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sync350 2013-07-11T21:27:20 "In a round about way, one might be able to truthfully say that Defcon is canceled this year." What is this 2013-07-11T21:46:46 the whole idea is stupid 2013-07-11T21:46:51 *** jim_ec2_ is now known as jim_ec2 2013-07-11T21:47:11 like saying no feds is gonna made defcon legit again 2013-07-11T21:47:25 or that there won't be any feds there 2013-07-11T21:47:40 jonnyx: john glenn might just come for hell of it, he came to my school when i was a kid.. but Ohio has 'too many' austronauts, if you ask cracked LOL 2013-07-11T21:48:45 http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/11/technology/security/iris-scanning-school/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 2013-07-11T21:48:46 Title: Iris scans are the new school IDs - Jul. 11, 2013 (at money.cnn.com) 2013-07-11T21:48:51 I bet ALL of you will love this one. 2013-07-11T21:49:34 aestetix: yeah, that is good news, no longer have to carry ID cards 2013-07-11T21:49:47 and hands free, which is the best part 2013-07-11T21:50:11 a biometric password's a static password =( 2013-07-11T21:50:14 unless you join MIB 2013-07-11T21:50:44 RangerZ1: it's only good news if it's opt-in 2013-07-11T21:50:58 Unless you are taunting me :p 2013-07-11T21:51:19 or if you want to stealthly troll aestetix THEN biometrics are awesome 2013-07-11T21:51:29 haha 2013-07-11T21:51:50 It's good news for those companies which are likely making a killing off it 2013-07-11T21:53:31 https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/945684_632239413453707_891379307_n.jpg 2013-07-11T21:55:57 so anyways, whats up with defcon? 2013-07-11T21:56:17 other than asking the nsa to not come, why are people saying 'its over', etc 2013-07-11T21:56:33 I am sure defcon has reasons for why they did that 2013-07-11T21:56:38 I wish I knew what they were 2013-07-11T21:58:23 I know ohio LEO that go and don't tell people they are, since they aren't there to 'catch' anyone, just to learn new techniques, etc {and I'm fine with that b/c they mostly find kiddy porn:( } 2013-07-11T21:59:50 but they are only 'sorta' LEO, they are comptuer forensics people 2013-07-11T22:26:48 Well, it's no fun playing "Spot the Fed" when they're openly attending 2013-07-11T23:20:46 Has anyone here used the WD TV? 2013-07-11T23:20:56 http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=920 2013-07-11T23:21:01 Title: WD TV Play (at www.wdc.com) 2013-07-11T23:38:38 *** n00gums has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)