2013-07-10T00:12:22 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/photoshop-cc-modest-upgrades-shackled-to-terrible-rental-model/4/ 2013-07-10T00:12:23 Title: Photoshop CC: modest upgrades shackled to terrible rental model | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) 2013-07-10T00:22:28 ***HOLY MOTHER OF GOD MEME FACE*** http://hothardware.com/News/Nintendo-CEO-90-of-New-Gamers-Unable-to-Finish-Level-11-in-Original-Super-Mario-Bros/default.aspx 2013-07-10T00:22:29 Title: Nintendo CEO: 90% of New Gamers Unable to Finish Level 1-1 in Original Super Mario Bros - HotHardware (at hothardware.com) 2013-07-10T00:25:43 RangerZ: Doesn't suprise me. 2013-07-10T00:26:16 many didn't even know it was a real game...... 2013-07-10T00:26:23 I have a twitch right now... 2013-07-10T00:26:49 I remember a side scrolling shooter came out a few years back. All of the critics panned it hard because it was "stupidly hard." One of my buddies got a copy, and we all agreed "oh, shit... it's an old twitch game!" 2013-07-10T00:27:37 Hell, the Contra game that came out for the DS stated several times in the manual "yes... this game is hard. Yes... you will die a lot. Yes... we will mock you." 2013-07-10T00:29:38 And yet fucking developers keep putting out games that require you to hit a random button in the middle of a cut scene or die, because... you know... when I harken back to the classic games, I yern for more Dragon's Lair or Space Ace. 2013-07-10T00:33:56 lol 2013-07-10T00:34:16 meh.. i enjoy the older games 2013-07-10T00:35:00 As do I, but those two games were fucking brutal. 2013-07-10T00:35:20 "oops, you didn't twitch exactly the right way at the right time. You die." 2013-07-10T00:35:20 mario bros was brutal? 2013-07-10T00:35:33 No... Dragon's Liar and Space Ace. 2013-07-10T00:35:43 ah 2013-07-10T00:36:07 "now you get to watch this cut scene again and hopefully twitch the exact right way at exactly the right time." 2013-07-10T00:36:38 never was a big fan of those games 2013-07-10T00:36:55 exactly. 2013-07-10T00:37:02 No one was. 2013-07-10T00:37:24 oh oddball 2013-07-10T00:37:28 msg 2013-07-10T00:37:47 We played them because of the damn good animation and the hopes to see the story until we rage quitted on the first... maybe second screen. 2013-07-10T00:38:20 aestetix_: Huh... it didn't light up. I got the message, but no notification. Random. 2013-07-10T00:38:38 uhhh 2013-07-10T00:38:42 *** aestetix_ is now known as aestetix 2013-07-10T00:38:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o aestetix 2013-07-10T00:39:07 ok tried again 2013-07-10T00:45:40 ugh 2013-07-10T00:46:05 I hate screwballs who sit in their basement and design what they think is the best doohickey ever, and then refuse to show it to anyone unless they sign an NDA 2013-07-10T00:46:24 and even better, they slap patent pending all over it, and then say they are saving up money to apply for a patent 2013-07-10T00:46:38 We have this thing called "peer review" for a reason. 2013-07-10T00:55:21 *** rattle has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-10T01:02:01 *** rattle has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T01:02:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rattle 2013-07-10T01:15:13 aestetix: you can peer review AND... patent 2013-07-10T01:15:22 fucking Stanford does it all day long 2013-07-10T01:15:28 same with MIT 2013-07-10T01:15:40 http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/09/maddow-does-the-gop-want-to-be-more-than-a-party-of-aggrieved-white-people/ watched this today 2013-07-10T01:15:42 Title: Maddow: Does the GOP want to be more than a party of aggrieved white people? | The Raw Story (at www.rawstory.com) 2013-07-10T01:15:47 and it was really sad.... sadly 2013-07-10T01:23:52 wait... wait... Maddow? bashing the GOP? shocking! 2013-07-10T01:25:39 and after the third video ad with noise... I close the window without reading the story. 2013-07-10T01:35:52 Dagmar: ping 2013-07-10T01:36:53 actually i'll just open it up to anyone. does anyone know where I can find graphics like this switch image here just higher res, preferrably free. http://maishsk.com/blog/images/The-VMware-Visio-Stencils_13381/image_9.png 2013-07-10T01:37:12 it's a simple part for visio but damned if I can figure out where to find similar for shit that isn't visio 2013-07-10T01:42:41 RangerZ: yes 2013-07-10T01:42:55 but to JUST patent with no peer review is annoying 2013-07-10T01:43:08 also, fuck you id_rsa.pub 2013-07-10T01:43:27 I just finished 30 minutes ot troubleshooting an ssh failure before I realized the id_rsa.pub key was wrong 2013-07-10T01:44:34 http://www.vectoropenstock.com/2264-Ethernet-Gigabit-Switch--vector 2013-07-10T01:44:35 Title: Ethernet Gigabit Switch :: Vector Open Stock | vector graphics and vector art to download for free! (at www.vectoropenstock.com) 2013-07-10T01:44:44 aestetix: I would hazard to guess that a large percentage, if not a majority, of things that are patented are done so before peer review. 2013-07-10T01:44:52 a nice vector graphic with no attribution info. perfect! 2013-07-10T01:45:17 There are a shit ton of patents that end up not going anywhere because the inventor can't get it to quite work. 2013-07-10T01:46:05 *** rattle has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-07-10T01:46:48 speaking of fail 2013-07-10T01:46:52 http://i.imgur.com/LvhATUg.jpg 2013-07-10T01:47:48 oddball: how many of them proclaim their invention is the savior of mankind? 2013-07-10T01:48:28 Oh, the ones that I'm thinking of that ended up not going anywhere are specifically gun designs, so... :p 2013-07-10T01:48:55 *** rattle has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T01:48:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rattle 2013-07-10T01:49:11 People came up with really wierd shit around the turn of the 20th century. 2013-07-10T01:55:37 http://www.mainpump.com/news/nocomments/5098.htm 2013-07-10T01:55:39 Title: MainPump: Valeria Levitina - another 25-kg victim of anorexia (at www.mainpump.com) 2013-07-10T01:55:42 I am not sure why anyone thinks this is hot 2013-07-10T01:59:24 because they're broken. 2013-07-10T02:02:35 Evilpig: So, apparently Gnomoria differs from Dwarf Fortress in one important way... You can stop enemy spawns by just building walls right up against the edge of the map. There's no 10u space for things to spawn in. 2013-07-10T02:02:53 heh 2013-07-10T02:03:38 I am just about done eliminating all the spawnable area except one that's small enough for my two squads to just murder anything that comes in 2013-07-10T02:03:45 Dagmar: so... mongo hasn't shown up tonight. think I should call and let peter know? this would be the second time that he's just not shown up then find out later he cleared it with peter and just never notified teh noc 2013-07-10T02:04:15 Evilpig: You can probably just email him, unless he's told you to call him when there's an unexpected no-show 2013-07-10T02:05:08 It's more an inconvenience kinda thing seeing as how i'd like to go get lunch. gonna have to forward the phones up to the operators in a bit and go grab something 2013-07-10T02:09:08 Evilpig: http://i.imgur.com/jgS6ccb.jpg you should call that number 2013-07-10T02:09:12 in case you have a lonely night 2013-07-10T02:31:15 "-1 Gnomads have arrived." *blinkblink* 2013-07-10T02:39:17 what? 2013-07-10T02:39:19 hehe 2013-07-10T02:39:31 that's a screenshot and bug submission 2013-07-10T03:09:13 *** brimstone has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-10T03:09:59 *** brimstone has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T03:09:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o brimstone 2013-07-10T03:35:38 *** RangerZ2 has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T03:36:37 *** RangerZ1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-10T04:12:56 *** brimstone has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-07-10T04:21:50 *** brimstone has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T04:21:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o brimstone 2013-07-10T04:25:49 *** RangerZ2 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-07-10T05:47:51 *** sasquatc3 has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T05:47:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc3 2013-07-10T05:52:48 *** opticron_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T05:52:57 *** Feltenix_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T05:57:54 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T05:57:54 *** Feltenix has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T05:57:54 *** opticron has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T07:36:50 *** Dolemite has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T07:36:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dolemite 2013-07-10T07:36:56 mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 2013-07-10T07:47:05 shut your filthy mouf 2013-07-10T07:47:26 btw I prettied up the UI a bit last night. working on more conversions now. 2013-07-10T07:51:49 I will have to take a look in a bit 2013-07-10T07:52:02 Quiet time at work has ended. It is now the season of End of FY Mad Money. 2013-07-10T07:56:28 heh 2013-07-10T07:56:32 I made graphics last night 2013-07-10T08:10:53 Dolemite: alright i'm out for the morning. 2013-07-10T08:11:02 well out of opendcim at least 2013-07-10T08:11:07 i'll bounce outta here shortly 2013-07-10T08:28:13 *** opticron_ is now known as opticron 2013-07-10T08:28:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o opticron 2013-07-10T08:30:20 aestetix: I'm thinking about calling that guy...have him give me a pedi for $8/hr? I've never had one but with savings like that.. 2013-07-10T08:41:41 *** Synx|hm has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T08:41:51 *** Synx|hm is now known as Syconious 2013-07-10T09:21:53 *** vyrus001_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T09:29:39 *** vyrus001 has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T11:05:20 *** GateKeeper has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T11:05:53 Evilpig_: yeah, right. everything's good now 2013-07-10T11:06:03 co-worker popped in to chat about something else 2013-07-10T11:06:12 thanks! 2013-07-10T11:10:36 my parents were looking to see if I had any mail there and for whatever reason my mom got into the safe and found the title to one of my trucks. along with that title they found a bond I got during senior night just before I graduated. she told me I need to come get it and deposit it because it has long since matured 2013-07-10T11:11:30 All, I have been working on a way to test egress firewall rules using a web browser. Would some of you mind testing it for me? 2013-07-10T11:11:55 It is flash based 2013-07-10T11:12:07 gimme a link and i'll abuse it 2013-07-10T11:12:11 but then i'm sleeping 2013-07-10T11:12:14 :) 2013-07-10T11:12:17 there better be boobs 2013-07-10T11:12:27 no boobs... 2013-07-10T11:12:28 not man boobs either 2013-07-10T11:12:31 lol 2013-07-10T11:12:37 especially none of those! 2013-07-10T11:13:02 Ok, once you click on the link, it will load a blank page (the goal is to insert this as an iframe on another page) 2013-07-10T11:13:07 wait for about 10 seconds 2013-07-10T11:13:11 then visit the next URL 2013-07-10T11:13:14 http://ninjalinux.com/egressbuster/ 2013-07-10T11:13:17 Title: Haxe Flash (at ninjalinux.com) 2013-07-10T11:13:29 Here are the results: 2013-07-10T11:13:31 http://ninjalinux.com/temp.txt 2013-07-10T11:14:38 godisawesome? wtf 2013-07-10T11:14:55 lol 2013-07-10T11:14:57 yep 2013-07-10T11:15:04 *** benthemeek has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T11:15:33 that is loading so many stinking requests it isn't even funny 2013-07-10T11:15:39 336 requestrs 2013-07-10T11:15:43 it should be about 1024 of them 2013-07-10T11:15:51 like I said, it is a port scan 2013-07-10T11:16:03 well, kind of 2013-07-10T11:16:08 *** Bahhumbug has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T11:16:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bahhumbug 2013-07-10T11:16:13 it checks which ports are allowed out by your firewall 2013-07-10T11:16:24 chrome isn't happy about it for sure 2013-07-10T11:16:28 * peacebyfire waves at moj0e 2013-07-10T11:17:02 * moj0e waves back at peacebyfire 2013-07-10T11:18:09 yeah you might want to rethink your process a bit. 2013-07-10T11:18:31 my only fear is that it will set off IDS alarms accusing the web client of having some malware to cause it to have a port scan 2013-07-10T11:18:47 so are you suggesting less ports or what? 2013-07-10T11:19:06 that or spread out the timing so it doesn't kill the browser 2013-07-10T11:19:15 did it really kill your browser? 2013-07-10T11:19:39 devtools is telling me it's gonna be 12 min before it finishes running all the queries 2013-07-10T11:19:53 that is wierd 2013-07-10T11:20:13 with my setup, it takes about 10 seconds total.... 2013-07-10T11:20:26 but, I'm not running devtools either 2013-07-10T11:20:45 I dunno. the tcp/ip stack on xp is kinda tarded to begin with 2013-07-10T11:20:56 yep 2013-07-10T11:21:01 hit f12 in chrome and look at the network tab, then reload 2013-07-10T11:25:53 yep, I should probably filter some of those out 2013-07-10T11:26:06 or lower the number of ports scanned 2013-07-10T11:27:23 Try closing out devtools and try it again 2013-07-10T11:27:49 note, I didn't change the code 2013-07-10T11:28:39 not seeing my ip there in your dump 2013-07-10T11:29:43 I know... that is strange 2013-07-10T11:29:48 do you have flash? 2013-07-10T11:30:59 should 2013-07-10T11:31:14 lemme check the flash site to be sure 2013-07-10T11:31:20 k 2013-07-10T11:31:20 Digging aroudn the cube World forums I see a number of people experiencing bizarre latency but no solutions yet 2013-07-10T11:31:32 I wonder if this is another one of those bizarre-ass IME bugs 2013-07-10T11:33:49 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T11:33:49 flahs demo loaded http://www.adobe.com/products/flash.html 2013-07-10T11:33:49 Dagmar: that was what I was complaining about. get random lag spikes, the world was having some loading issues for me occasionally as well 2013-07-10T11:33:50 Title: Animation software, multimedia programs | Adobe Flash Professional CC (at www.adobe.com) 2013-07-10T11:34:23 Evilping_: :/ 2013-07-10T11:35:02 http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ You have version 11,7,700,225 installed 2013-07-10T11:35:03 Title: Adobe - Flash Player (at www.adobe.com) 2013-07-10T11:37:03 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T11:37:04 slightly out of date but present. dunno. I saw all the network requests in the network tab. 2013-07-10T11:37:11 Someone finally showed up! 2013-07-10T11:37:13 64.139.242.97 2013-07-10T11:37:54 still not me 2013-07-10T11:37:59 *** jonnyx has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T11:38:15 anyone else click on the link? (gatekeeper?) 2013-07-10T11:38:37 gatekeeper doesn't have flash support, to my knowledge 2013-07-10T11:39:07 I didn't figure, but who knows 2013-07-10T11:39:13 *** jonny_X has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-07-10T11:40:04 someone in statesboro, GA 2013-07-10T11:41:07 * Evilpig_ has an idea 2013-07-10T11:41:29 and on that note i'm going to bed. yo shit is busted. fix it 2013-07-10T11:43:49 lol 2013-07-10T11:43:52 nite! 2013-07-10T11:53:42 moj0e: It would be potentially more helpful if the output reordered the ports numerically 2013-07-10T11:54:59 A secondary helpful change would be to not only reorder the ports but to print ranges, i.e. "110-119" instead of "110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119" 2013-07-10T11:55:01 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-10T11:58:21 *** Feltenix_ is now known as Feltenix 2013-07-10T11:59:57 Corydon76-home: that makes sense 2013-07-10T12:01:26 I'll see if I can incorporate that 2013-07-10T12:01:54 *** ChanServ has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T12:01:54 *** calvino.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-07-10T12:03:08 It's going to be a fun problem. :) 2013-07-10T12:03:54 *** Feltenix has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting) 2013-07-10T12:04:09 *** Feltenix has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T12:04:10 yep, especially since it is asynchronous 2013-07-10T12:04:37 I might end up putting it in a database instead and that would make it much easier 2013-07-10T12:05:22 btw, did you all know that chrome and firefox will refuse to connect to certain ports. 2013-07-10T12:07:30 Here is the list for Chrome: http://cubewot.de/node/266 2013-07-10T12:07:31 Title: Google Chrome ERR_UNSAFE_PORT | cubewot.de (at cubewot.de) 2013-07-10T12:12:32 *** Dolemite has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-07-10T12:12:42 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T12:16:10 I haven't said this today... so I thought it was about time. I really dislike Windows... 2013-07-10T12:16:46 well, that is probably not accurate, I really dislike anything microsot 2013-07-10T12:16:53 ^microsoft 2013-07-10T12:31:08 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2013-07-10T12:35:38 that's just silly 2013-07-10T12:35:42 moj0e: Mostly those ports are blocked because they've been used to very sneakily engage in socket exhaustion attacks using (for example) viewers of pornography as the amplification vector. 2013-07-10T12:36:30 They're not ports a server is typically ever going to be run on, but they _are_ ports that are likely to be used by other services which certainly don't speak HTTP 2013-07-10T12:37:11 Some application developers haven't gotten that magic clue 2013-07-10T12:37:17 Exchange for example. 2013-07-10T12:39:09 *** ChanServ has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T12:39:09 *** calvino.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-07-10T12:39:09 Wanna set your buddy icon in Lync? No problem. You're totally allowed to put whatever URL you want in there and every Lync client will connect to it not once, but twice. 2013-07-10T12:39:09 Hilariously, it will send a HEAD request and then no matter what the other end says about the icon image, will then do a GET request on it. 2013-07-10T12:39:09 Dagmar: additionally, someone could build a port scanner for internal resources (similar to what I did) 2013-07-10T12:39:53 That too 2013-07-10T12:39:58 :) 2013-07-10T12:41:28 * moj0e needs to eat lunch 2013-07-10T12:42:49 With some place like Gaia Online that allows users to put whatever URL they want into their sig to include signature graphics inline, one can very cheaply beat the hell out of a given IP/port combination 2013-07-10T12:49:05 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T12:49:40 Dagmar: Very interesting. the challenge that I have is that I would have to control the server that responds to an HTTP request on every port. 2013-07-10T12:49:55 right now, the server that I use was built by someone else 2013-07-10T12:50:07 I just use it to bounce the requests off of them 2013-07-10T12:50:53 i.e. someone looks at my web page, their browser does 1024 GET requests on letmeoutofyour.net 2013-07-10T12:51:04 and if the result is a w00tw00t, then I post it back to my site 2013-07-10T12:51:27 As far as I can tell, only flash can do that (because of cross-domain policies) 2013-07-10T12:54:40 moj0e: you should be able to open a frame and set it's location elsewhere 2013-07-10T12:56:38 critch: thanks for the suggestion! 2013-07-10T12:57:08 I'll see if I can make that happen and make it work with javascript 2013-07-10T13:00:15 http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/10/arizona-man-shoots-father-and-two-kids-after-vomiting-on-his-dog/ 2013-07-10T13:00:16 Title: Arizona man shoots father and two kids after vomiting on his dog | The Raw Story (at www.rawstory.com) 2013-07-10T16:03:32 *** GateKeeper has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T16:05:02 I do believe that's probably a misleading interpretation of events. 2013-07-10T16:05:30 Betcha they include "being slapped on the ass" and "minors cannot give consent" as criteria. 2013-07-10T16:05:47 Either that or they shoudln't have taken the survey at Rapeville High School 2013-07-10T16:06:38 'cuz where I went to school, if ten percent of the males were being homosexually raped, we'd have burned the place to the fucking ground. 2013-07-10T16:07:12 That's not even in question. 2013-07-10T16:07:26 4H would have made a project out of that bonfire. 2013-07-10T16:08:30 What these areas apparently lack is a healthy dose of vigilantism. 2013-07-10T16:10:17 There would be no in-school suspension if that happened to my kid 2013-07-10T16:10:33 I'd start by beating the hell out of the other kid's fathers. 2013-07-10T16:10:40 Then just sort of spread out from there 2013-07-10T16:14:04 Using a fucking broken flag pole? 2013-07-10T16:14:54 yeah what the fuck 2013-07-10T16:16:04 And yet kids are getting thrown out of school for "gun shaped" Pop Tarts. 2013-07-10T16:17:15 If a kid for any reason thinks these things are acceptable behaviour, it's time to beat the _parents_, just as a warm-up act 2013-07-10T16:17:16 Dagmar, have I ever told you I really, really appreciate the way you think? 2013-07-10T16:17:16 Heh 2013-07-10T16:17:17 While I don't personally prefer the redneck way of handling things, it *does* serve as a solid stopgap against sliding into complete and utter savagery 2013-07-10T16:17:30 the worst part is the 'blame the victim' shit that happens 2013-07-10T16:17:37 Those schools are just showing they don't need any tax money 2013-07-10T16:17:51 get upset at the victim for complaining... is such BS 2013-07-10T16:18:17 If ths student body wanted to stop it, they'd just set up a day where _everyone_ brings a gun-shaped pop tart with them to lunch. 2013-07-10T16:18:33 Dagmar: There are times that you must, regretably, speak on a level that they understand... and that level might include a 2x4. 2013-07-10T16:18:40 If you expel the entire school over such empty-headed douchebaggery, the school would have zero attendance for the rest of the year and get no tax money. 2013-07-10T16:19:04 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T16:19:07 No principal in his right mind is going to fuck around with stupidity on that level 2013-07-10T16:19:20 The actual problem is that administrators are not held personally responsible (and therefore personally liable) for their idiocy. 2013-07-10T16:19:46 I guarantee you that a school board would hold that motherfucker accountable for the school's budget money being halved by the state gov't. 2013-07-10T16:19:51 It's based on attendance. 2013-07-10T16:19:58 That, and the ones that are actually trying to do good are told that they can't. 2013-07-10T16:19:59 http://www.thegloss.com/2013/07/09/fashion/vogue-uk-hacked-to-display-dinosaurs-in-hats/ dagmar... what did you do? 2013-07-10T16:20:00 Title: Someone Hacked The Vogue UK Website To Display Dinosaurs In Hats (at www.thegloss.com) 2013-07-10T16:20:23 It wasn't me. I'd use ferrets in hats. 2013-07-10T16:20:30 If an administrator had to pay out of his own pocket when getting sued for idiocy, that would put an end to it PDQ. 2013-07-10T16:20:32 ahh ok 2013-07-10T16:20:37 A motherfucking *excellent* fashion statement, all the same. 2013-07-10T16:21:10 RangerZ: Yeah... as the articly update points out, that was done in house with permission. 2013-07-10T16:21:13 Also, I wouldn't make you type in the konami code to see it 2013-07-10T16:22:48 do people just type komani code on every website? LOL 2013-07-10T16:24:40 pretty much 2013-07-10T16:30:39 *** ChanServ has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T16:30:39 *** morgan.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-07-10T16:31:10 "Alleged Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev pleaded not guilty Wednesday afternoon to 30 charges relating to his supposed involvement in April’s deadly terrorist attack that claimed four lives." 2013-07-10T16:31:14 ...sure... 2013-07-10T16:37:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Feltenix 2013-07-10T16:44:57 LOL 2013-07-10T16:45:13 His reason... 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Well... You're still young--you can always try and have another kid to replace this one." 2013-07-10T17:35:01 yeah tbh I think it's great that valve's pushing linux gaming 2013-07-10T17:35:39 I'm sure that 99% of that traffic will be directed at the Ubuntu forums anyways 2013-07-10T17:36:02 so is crytek 2013-07-10T17:36:11 they are hiring linux devs right now for the cryengine 2013-07-10T17:36:46 mainly b/c of the push by Star Citizen, which has a large % ~10% which list it as one of the top 3 features they want in the game 2013-07-10T17:37:38 nice 2013-07-10T17:38:23 and Chris Roberts said that he can't announce anything yet... but that linux/mac fans will be pleasantly surprised... which means they are getting an openGL version working 2013-07-10T17:38:39 and since the game won't have DRM on it, they can easily make a linux version 2013-07-10T17:39:23 I think valve's showing that their source engine 'still' runs faster in linux than on windows... is something pretty impressive 2013-07-10T17:41:48 I had a buddy intern with AMD last summer and their big project was in making L4D linux compatible; was kind of interesting hearing about it 2013-07-10T17:42:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDrIyOjEYRk&feature=endscreen&NR=1 2013-07-10T17:42:36 Title: Chris Roberts talks up AMD graphics for Star Citizen - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-07-10T17:43:45 AMD and NVidia are both giving CIG (robert's company) dozens of the top video cards for both their offices, lol 2013-07-10T17:44:26 1.3million polygons for a SINGLE ship... 2013-07-10T17:44:28 just insane 2013-07-10T17:45:04 Because... WHO CARES WHY! SHITLOAD OF POLYS PER SECONDS! 2013-07-10T17:45:19 yeah.. if they were using them wrong... 2013-07-10T17:45:42 maybe they can get Virgin to actually fucking build one 2013-07-10T17:46:06 Soo... NotLarry just got a fun call. 2013-07-10T17:46:08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrQ0qMRZ_1Q here is an 'in game' commercial ran in engine with all in game art assets 2013-07-10T17:46:09 Title: The 300 Series: The Next Generation is Now - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-07-10T17:46:27 NetSec just called the NOC to request a campus address be blocked. 2013-07-10T17:46:33 that ship is 350k polygons, lol 2013-07-10T17:46:39 netsec did? lol 2013-07-10T17:46:42 ...because the head of Netsec told whoever it was to call the NOC for it. 2013-07-10T17:46:56 That's um... NetSec's job. 2013-07-10T17:47:04 ...like _entirely_ NetSec's job. 2013-07-10T17:47:15 thats my point, why would they call the noc 2013-07-10T17:47:34 Something has gone horribly off the rails, and I suspect it's the hiring standards in that department. 2013-07-10T17:48:08 I'm used to them doing bizarre-ass things like telling us a nameserver was compromised and was DDoSing parts of China. 2013-07-10T17:48:19 because you know... source, destination... they're easy to get confused. 2013-07-10T17:49:47 Also, maybe I just have more experience with looking at those things seeing as how I see this crap in my logs at home every day 2013-07-10T17:49:48 Jul 10 16:21:47 fw kernel: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:1d:0f:c3:54:e0:00:01:5c:32:b9:01:08:00 SRC=64.38.242.11 DST=98.193.176.32 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x20 TTL=52 ID=1 PROTO=TCP SPT=2088 DPT=53 WINDOW=2048 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 2013-07-10T17:50:34 btw... i like how NES had a 'widespread' power outage at my house this morning 2013-07-10T17:50:47 If it's not CCBill it's OVCGuide, whose only real issues are being in competition with shifty fucks from Russia. 2013-07-10T17:50:55 no thunder storm... no snow storm... no windstorm... lol 2013-07-10T17:51:12 Someone may have dropped a wrench on a transformer 2013-07-10T17:51:23 ...or maybe they hired some people from Plant Ops 2013-07-10T17:52:09 The third time PlantOps caused a power outage to the Hill Center I really think Zafar was planning on having some of them killed. 2013-07-10T17:53:55 I always get excited about these games but get bored quickly; who wants to be Star Citizen guildies? 2013-07-10T17:53:56 nice 2013-07-10T17:54:18 frsilent: you have a pledge already? 2013-07-10T17:54:22 I'm sure I would've loved Eve but don't want to just join some random corporation 2013-07-10T17:54:26 yeah; forget which I did 2013-07-10T17:54:46 I got the ship that's actually worth a shit though 2013-07-10T17:54:56 ok, then I don't have to gift you a LTI (Life Time Insurance) ship 2013-07-10T17:55:00 300I ? 2013-07-10T17:55:05 I believe so 2013-07-10T17:55:12 was $40-$60? 2013-07-10T17:55:14 yeah 2013-07-10T17:55:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrQ0qMRZ_1Q thats the 300i ship 2013-07-10T17:55:31 Title: The 300 Series: The Next Generation is Now - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-07-10T17:55:39 amazing video IMHO, lol 2013-07-10T17:55:51 yeah that polycount is no joke 2013-07-10T17:56:33 this Aug at games' con, in Germany, they are releasing the Hangar module, which will allow you to get into your hangar 2013-07-10T17:56:55 and look at your ship, and get in it, and customize stuff 2013-07-10T17:57:31 I want a coffepot for the cockpit 2013-07-10T17:57:42 you'll be able to have that actually 2013-07-10T17:57:44 lol 2013-07-10T17:57:56 lol, oh go 2013-07-10T17:57:57 *god 2013-07-10T17:58:04 btw have you looked at StarForge? 2013-07-10T17:58:11 its one of the 'flair' things that was a stretch goal back in original kick starter time 2013-07-10T17:58:15 I'm hoping they'll make it good...pretty fun so far 2013-07-10T17:58:38 only briefly 2013-07-10T18:27:09 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-10T18:30:25 is it worth getting yet? had starforge on my wishlist for a while but the forums so far have kept saying its still lacking alot 2013-07-10T18:30:45 seems to be a trend with alot of the space/4x/strategy games on early access and in general as of late 2013-07-10T18:31:07 theres been a few others that once you read up on em seem like they have another years worth of work to be put in them before they are worthwhile 2013-07-10T18:33:12 it's still lacking but it's fun 2013-07-10T18:33:26 honestly I think it'll be 20x better as soon as they make persistent worlds 2013-07-10T18:33:41 no reason for me to build things if I can't save them =X 2013-07-10T18:33:48 definitely 2013-07-10T18:34:16 maybe they'll have a new update ready for tomorrow for the start of the sale :) 2013-07-10T18:34:17 guess I could run in an VM & save state but meh 2013-07-10T18:38:05 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-07-10T19:59:54 protip 2013-07-10T20:00:15 if you're trying to recruit me, don't mentino that former Apple CEO John Sculley is one of the founders 2013-07-10T20:07:21 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T20:29:46 can you believe i'm having yet ANOTHER argument with dolemite about how it is bad practice for him to do any if statements or for loops without using brackets to enclose them? 2013-07-10T20:30:26 Evilpig_: then just fucking tell him to use eclipse to code his PHP 2013-07-10T20:30:38 it will make the full if statement for you, with brackets 2013-07-10T20:30:38 etc 2013-07-10T20:30:42 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/10/1222617/-Washington-DC-city-council-passes-large-retailer-living-wage-bill-despite-Walmart-threats interesting 2013-07-10T20:30:43 Title: Daily Kos: Washington, D.C., city council passes large retailer living wage bill despite Walmart threats (at www.dailykos.com) 2013-07-10T20:30:58 its funny... b/c costco just moved into DC, and had no problem with this, LOL 2013-07-10T20:31:10 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2125066/is-it-bad-practice-to-use-an-if-statement-without-brackets 2013-07-10T20:31:11 Title: source code - Is it bad practice to use an if-statement without brackets? - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com) 2013-07-10T20:32:44 fuck, perosnally I think it just reads better to start 2013-07-10T20:34:02 actually... the compiler DOES care which version you use 2013-07-10T20:34:10 his argument for not using them is in 20 years of programming nobody has ever told him it is best practice to use them and I don't use extra whitespace in variables and functions. 2013-07-10T20:34:11 atleast for c/c++/java/c# 2013-07-10T20:34:40 Evilpig_: tell him to call me 2013-07-10T20:34:41 then 2013-07-10T20:35:08 I don't know if php would care if you use parens... but I'm thinking it would actually matter 2013-07-10T20:36:25 Evilpig_: I find that difficult to believe. 2013-07-10T20:36:45 If that _is_ the case there has been very little peer review of his work. 2013-07-10T20:37:01 yeah 2013-07-10T20:37:05 tell him to learn python 2013-07-10T20:37:27 python shall not be spoken of when talking about real languages 2013-07-10T20:37:32 lulx 2013-07-10T20:37:33 python is for writing homework 2013-07-10T20:37:40 But you're talking about php as if it's a real language? 2013-07-10T20:37:44 Crack, much? 2013-07-10T20:38:00 since you can write 10 lines of code to interact with amazon EC2 instances, etc 2013-07-10T20:38:16 (that was an actual script i wrote in Cloud Computing) 2013-07-10T20:38:48 yeah yeah I know. but it's the medium i'm in and i'd like to it to resemble a real language when looking at the code rather than scribbles on a bathroom wall 2013-07-10T20:39:26 php is a 'nice' language, that has no real leadership 2013-07-10T20:39:34 and has degraded worse and worse over time 2013-07-10T20:40:00 he just agreed to start using brackets after my last argument of what are you going to do when someone saves the file with an editor that is locked to 80 lines and just inserts whitespace wherever the fuck it wants? 2013-07-10T20:40:09 http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ 2013-07-10T20:40:10 Title: PHP: a fractal of bad design - fuzzy notepad (at me.veekun.com) 2013-07-10T20:40:17 proper indentions make me happy too... 2013-07-10T20:40:54 we've got proper indentions. that was an easy argument to settle 2013-07-10T20:41:05 Bahhumbug: linking that is an easy thing to do, but I design languages, and as a 'core' its decent 2013-07-10T20:41:14 it needs cleaned up badly 2013-07-10T20:41:16 Sorry. Don't buy that. 2013-07-10T20:41:17 thats my point 2013-07-10T20:42:05 for a scripted language, it has a lot of strong bases, but it needs to decide if it wasnt to be functional OR object oriented IMHO, trying to do both is where a lot of that crap code comes from 2013-07-10T20:42:19 that and bad API design 2013-07-10T20:43:08 The bad design predates any OO support the language ever had. 2013-07-10T20:43:09 woot woot 2013-07-10T20:43:17 got the coax re-run for the attic antenna 2013-07-10T20:43:26 nice 2013-07-10T20:43:30 The original designers were consuming far too much bath salts. 2013-07-10T20:44:02 just need to borrow dad's 2 story ladder and cable anchors to the side of the house all pretty like and then i can shorten the cable by about ~30 ft and see if i can get all teh stations working 2013-07-10T20:44:56 also need to get a powered splitter/amp so i can do tv's in all the bedrooms 2013-07-10T20:44:58 Shadow404: you're supposed to run the cable in a way that it can be hidden and not just tacked to the side of the house. :P 2013-07-10T20:44:59 but tis getting there 2013-07-10T20:45:24 Evilpig_: ah, yes, its only gonna show for about 4ft at most 2013-07-10T20:45:37 and then it runs down the side with all the other utility cables 2013-07-10T20:45:40 including the power 2013-07-10T20:45:50 so hidden amongst the other shit 2013-07-10T20:48:01 http://stackoverflow.com/a/2125207 2013-07-10T20:51:13 hrmm. it's 8 I could go get sushi or I can cook some noodles and have beef stroganoff 2013-07-10T20:53:39 Evilpig_: for your best friend at work http://cosmotic.newsblur.com/story/hes-late/38e114 2013-07-10T20:53:40 Title: cosmotics blurblog (at cosmotic.newsblur.com) 2013-07-10T20:54:21 Evilpig_: bitch, your supposed to be over here fixing me my dinner 2013-07-10T20:55:31 yeah.. no 2013-07-10T20:56:22 Evilpig: That SO post is the difference between one year of experience with one language and five of each, right there. 2013-07-10T20:56:57 Also... silly noobs. Someone made a DNS change to a record in a zone without looking for the sub-zone... 2013-07-10T20:57:10 I'm going to have to find out who it was tomorrow and go asplain things to tehm 2013-07-10T20:57:16 it just didn't even seem like something that should be questioned let alone have a standing argument over going over months 2013-07-10T20:57:54 Noobs won't have learned the hard way 2013-07-10T20:58:17 It's only after the difference has fucked someone over several times that they finally learn that brackets are not optional. 2013-07-10T21:00:23 food time 2013-07-10T21:01:32 Just tossing this out there. "you" + "are" = "you're" 2013-07-10T21:03:13 nothing to lower the morale of some employees like a mandatory C test that they have to slap their name on, despite being told it affects them in no way 2013-07-10T21:03:19 *** sasquatc3 is now known as sasquatc4 2013-07-10T21:07:09 sasquatc4: i'd just turn it in blank then 2013-07-10T21:07:13 or doodle on it 2013-07-10T21:09:59 Fucking 2013-07-10T21:10:01 Weather 2013-07-10T21:10:02 :/ 2013-07-10T21:10:10 well it was electronic, but one of the managers i work with just didnt answer like 1/3 of em, he'd look at it, figure it was too hard or take too much time, and just skipped it 2013-07-10T21:22:19 Well, they could also try being "subtle" about it. 2013-07-10T21:22:34 You know, get the underperforming coders new mice, and the skilled coders new keyboards. 2013-07-10T21:24:02 Evilpig_: wheres my dinner? 2013-07-10T21:33:47 * Evilpig_ rubs his arm 2013-07-10T21:33:55 nope, the white isn't coming off. 2013-07-10T21:48:54 *** ZombieChicken has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-07-10T21:52:13 *** ZombieChicken has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T21:52:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ZombieChicken 2013-07-10T22:35:34 *** brimston3 has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T22:35:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o brimston3 2013-07-10T22:37:10 *** NotLarry_ has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T22:37:44 *** Evilpig has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T22:37:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Evilpig 2013-07-10T22:38:00 *** brimstone has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) 2013-07-10T22:38:03 *** brimston3 is now known as brimstone 2013-07-10T22:43:45 *** ZombieChicken has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T22:43:45 *** Evilpig_ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T22:43:46 *** NotLarry has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-07-10T22:52:50 *** ZombieChicken has joined #se2600 2013-07-10T22:52:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ZombieChicken 2013-07-10T23:24:02 *** spaceB0x has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)