2013-07-05T00:27:46 *** GateKeeper has joined #se2600 2013-07-05T00:32:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Corydon76-home 2013-07-05T01:06:10 what my great uncle just bought. http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/corvette/2004/?sub=z06 2013-07-05T01:06:26 *** Bahhumbug has joined #se2600 2013-07-05T01:06:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bahhumbug 2013-07-05T01:24:22 *** v4mp has joined #se2600 2013-07-05T01:24:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Evilpig 2013-07-05T01:37:21 do I fix bugs or slack off the rest of the night? hrmmm this is a good question 2013-07-05T01:37:47 alas, freedom day is over 2013-07-05T02:03:52 Not on the west coast, Alaska or Hawaii yet. 2013-07-05T02:03:59 Evilpig: Slack. 2013-07-05T02:04:11 Bahhumbug: that's kinda where I'm leaning 2013-07-05T02:04:16 Good man. 2013-07-05T02:04:33 If Dolemite questions it you can just blame me; I'm fine with that. 2013-07-05T02:04:41 lol 2013-07-05T02:05:02 I actually made good progress on that tonight. I think the UI for adding / removing ports is now finished 2013-07-05T02:05:05 it at least works 2013-07-05T02:05:07 (I get blamed for so much I don't have any part of I figure it's gotta balance out somehow) 2013-07-05T02:05:07 *** ZombieChicken has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-07-05T02:05:20 works is a good start :) 2013-07-05T02:05:29 You should try to fix the plant. 2013-07-05T02:05:37 there is no fixing the plant 2013-07-05T02:05:37 Do they make an IDE for that? 2013-07-05T02:05:46 Or is that IED? 2013-07-05T02:07:05 Not sure but I bet it could have been prevented by an IUD 2013-07-05T02:07:27 Indeed. 2013-07-05T02:08:06 ah unawares of the west coasters in se 2013-07-05T02:08:08 Some people really should have just ended up as a stain on their mother's pillow; the plant is one of those. 2013-07-05T02:08:10 *** ZombieChicken has joined #se2600 2013-07-05T02:08:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ZombieChicken 2013-07-05T02:08:49 if she had swallowed instead, that extra protein might have been the spark to an actual idea rather than the waste of genetic material it created 2013-07-05T02:12:47 Perhaps. 2013-07-05T02:12:58 The odds really are against it, however. 2013-07-05T02:13:52 oh the odds are that I'd probably win the lottery first, but someone eventually wins the lottery 2013-07-05T02:14:42 Good point. 2013-07-05T02:14:45 Check for your Cube World email 2013-07-05T02:20:33 I got it 2013-07-05T02:21:05 installed here too. I'm confused as fuck by what is going on. I killed a squirrel as a mage but then a surprise racoon attack left me cradling in the fetal position 2013-07-05T02:21:20 Yeah the color od hteir name matters 2013-07-05T02:21:32 Yer PBAoE is to get people off you and try to stun them 2013-07-05T02:21:41 Right click is a heavier attack that may stun, but uses mana 2013-07-05T02:21:47 Left click is basic nuke 2013-07-05T02:22:00 If you use a wand instead of a staff, you get fireballs 2013-07-05T02:22:33 Look for the nearest city, and make for the item store, and steal some pineapples/pumkins if you see them 2013-07-05T02:22:46 Everything else is still confusing, but at least I'm now properly rampaging across the countryside 2013-07-05T02:22:59 i'll do that after I get back from getting somethign to eat 2013-07-05T02:23:18 just emailing peter, notlarry, and pat now with the instructions for the new DNR report 2013-07-05T02:24:33 It gets fuckin' DARK at night 2013-07-05T02:24:36 I like that 2013-07-05T02:34:38 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#se2600 2013-07-05T09:26:54 *** cameron.freenode.net sets mode: +ooo sasquatc4 Feltenix opticron 2013-07-05T09:31:54 i le tired 2013-07-05T09:47:52 * Evilpig_ stabs Synx|hm's foot with a fork 2013-07-05T09:47:55 still tired? 2013-07-05T09:51:40 Know what works better? A paper bag full of carpenter wasps. 2013-07-05T09:54:21 I have to ask: Paper bag full of carpenter wasps? 2013-07-05T09:56:29 I saw paper bag and immediately went to flaming dog poop 2013-07-05T09:58:56 ha 2013-07-05T09:59:12 so those wasps i think they are called muddobber, do they sting? 2013-07-05T09:59:25 they bite 2013-07-05T09:59:33 ahh 2013-07-05T09:59:45 so no need to go running like a little girl when i spray them with wasp killer 2013-07-05T10:00:02 also why do they keep drinking all of my humming bird necter 2013-07-05T10:00:02 the bite still hurts. :P 2013-07-05T10:00:22 but they would have to land on you, its not like they are going to dive bomb bite you are they? 2013-07-05T10:01:36 they might. you are spraying them with poison 2013-07-05T10:02:06 fine fine, ill continue to run around my yard screaming 2013-07-05T10:02:21 those fuckers never die on contact like the bottle says 2013-07-05T10:03:24 have you tried fire? 2013-07-05T10:03:27 first time i found em in my mail box i let out a fart in my scream and subsiquent(sp?) flight 2013-07-05T10:03:33 I've yet to see one that can fly without wings 2013-07-05T10:03:48 id prefer not to shoot flames into my roof but not a bad idea otherwise 2013-07-05T10:04:09 That's why you need hydroflouric acid. 2013-07-05T10:04:15 spray em first then use a weed killer for personal protection 2013-07-05T10:04:19 Be sure to ignite it first. 2013-07-05T10:04:54 ok i need to get back to work :( im off today but so overloaded with work ill be putting in the normat 10-12 hours 2013-07-05T10:05:48 because of aestetix_ i'm watching evangelion again now too 2013-07-05T10:07:17 Carpenter wasps/mud daubers aren't particularly nasty. Wasps, hornets and yelloejackets are the ones to watch for. 2013-07-05T10:08:33 ok quick story before i get back to work ;) 2013-07-05T10:08:49 yellow jackets are assholes 2013-07-05T10:09:05 i decided to take the wife fishing from a canoe here in louisiana 2013-07-05T10:09:44 so we go floating around this swamp for a few hours (known for crocs!) as im keeping an eye out this fucking huge croc surfaces right next to us 2013-07-05T10:09:53 i made fucking eye contact with the thing as it goes back under 2013-07-05T10:10:00 she went to cast, you flipped over. you're getting a new leg now. the end 2013-07-05T10:10:59 the wife never saw it, so im kinda freaked and start rowing back to shore and while im looking for that fucking i row the canoe right into a tree in the middle of the swamp that is infested with wasps 2013-07-05T10:11:10 bam 3 stings to the wifes legs 2013-07-05T10:11:31 and shes freaking out because we have to row all the way back to our truck and shes never been stung before so not sure if shes alergic 2013-07-05T10:11:57 what was susposed to be a fun day trip turned into me being calld all sorts of wonderful names 2013-07-05T10:12:47 This is why nature is evil, the outdoors needs to stay that way, and I <3 AC, indoor plumbing and electricity. 2013-07-05T10:12:58 and porn 2013-07-05T10:13:02 you still love porn too 2013-07-05T10:13:03 yes and porn 2013-07-05T10:13:06 That's a given. 2013-07-05T10:13:50 Kinda like saying "...and I <3 oxygen, too!" Seriously, who needs to even bother saying that? 2013-07-05T10:14:32 apparently I ran some whiney bitch out of our ingress group cause I posted this disturbing pic the other night when someone challenged me to a porn off 2013-07-05T10:14:55 a porn off haha 2013-07-05T10:15:17 armed with years of 4chan and virgil links I couldn't lose 2013-07-05T10:15:33 * jonnyx sighs & shakes his head, but is not surprised 2013-07-05T10:16:12 this was the one that offended her so much. 2013-07-05T10:16:13 NSFW 2013-07-05T10:16:17 I'm trying to remember the last time I saw porn that truly disturbed me. 2013-07-05T10:16:18 NSFW http://i.imgur.com/iGjvn0N.jpg 2013-07-05T10:16:19 NSFW 2013-07-05T10:16:36 jonnyx: I think you'll laugh at that 2013-07-05T10:16:49 I know i did, which was why I saved it 2013-07-05T10:17:12 ha 2013-07-05T10:17:20 Seen it, registered a 2 on my WTF-meter. 2013-07-05T10:17:48 It did elicit a grin, though. 2013-07-05T10:17:48 alison in wonderland the musical, furry porn was the one that ended it 2013-07-05T10:17:57 alice* 2013-07-05T10:19:02 guess I should try to get some sleep 2013-07-05T10:19:35 ...and dream of Futurama furry pr0n... 2013-07-05T10:19:41 likely 2013-07-05T10:19:58 that and Synx|hm running like a scared girl from a swarm of hornets 2013-07-05T10:21:11 google "japanese hornets" sometime 2013-07-05T10:21:25 they're as big as your hand. no thanks 2013-07-05T10:21:30 Glad we don't have those fuckers over here. 2013-07-05T10:21:42 those and the spiders from australia 2013-07-05T10:21:52 Proof positive that we didn't nuke Japan enough during WWII. 2013-07-05T10:22:23 they jump, are as big as a sheet of paper, and can get across the room in a couple of seconds. 2013-07-05T10:22:41 wolf spiders NOPE! 2013-07-05T10:23:07 actually camel spiders!! NOPE NOPE! they numb you while they eat your feet while you sleep 2013-07-05T10:23:08 Too bad they can't talk; we could initiate peace talks. 2013-07-05T10:23:22 huntsman spider. that's the one 2013-07-05T10:23:47 They could replace astronauts in our space program. Smaller, less mass to launch, can get around better in 0g. 2013-07-05T10:24:26 http://graphics1.snopes.com/photos/bugs/graphics/camelspider.jpg *ugh* 2013-07-05T10:24:42 * Synx|hm shudders 2013-07-05T10:25:09 http://ednieuw.home.xs4all.nl/australian/huntsman/Heteropoda_ZZ279_F2649.jpg 2013-07-05T10:25:20 that right there. nope nope nope nope 2013-07-05T10:25:29 and im out 2013-07-05T10:25:43 *** eryc has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-07-05T10:25:47 that thing looks every so slightly like a vagina 2013-07-05T10:25:53 I think I'm going to fap to that when I finish my coffee. 2013-07-05T10:26:02 haha 2013-07-05T10:26:06 lol 2013-07-05T10:26:23 there's a cream in the coffee joke there that i'm staying away from 2013-07-05T10:26:25 Not the kind of furry pr0n y'all had in mind, eh? 2013-07-05T10:26:53 ok back to work seriously this time 2013-07-05T10:31:16 NSFW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRItYDKSqpQ 2013-07-05T10:31:17 Title: Motherfucking Bootleg Fireworks [Original Subtitled Version] *REUPLOAD* - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-07-05T10:36:50 *** eryc has joined #se2600 2013-07-05T10:36:51 *** eryc has joined #se2600 2013-07-05T10:36:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o eryc 2013-07-05T10:37:09 Hunter S. Thompson parody - "The venom of the Huntsman Spider, when injected directly into the penis, is said to cause orgasms of incredible duration and intensity. It is no coincidence that there has been a marked rise in the number of American tourists who have been rescued - sunburned, naked, and gibbering insanely - after a poorly-planned 'sex tour' of the Australian Outback. Aborigian 2013-07-05T10:37:10 guides of unimpeachable reputation are absolutely essential to expeditions of this nature, and the success thereof." 2013-07-05T10:37:32 ack, "Aboriginal" 2013-07-05T10:38:20 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (shutting down) 2013-07-05T10:38:38 Damn, I sared off ChanServ. 2013-07-05T10:39:02 "scared" (need more caffeine so I type correctly) 2013-07-05T10:39:09 *** ChanServ has joined #se2600 2013-07-05T10:39:09 *** cameron.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-07-05T10:43:57 btw, jonnyx did you see this? http://phreaknic.info/pn17/pn17-twosided-flier.pdf 2013-07-05T10:50:54 i really need to do something cool with these nfc stickers today 2013-07-05T10:51:12 stick them on the wasps. then try to track them 2013-07-05T10:55:54 *** jim_ec2_ is now known as jim_ec2 2013-07-05T10:59:05 Heh. "Please note that Intel Graphics Cards are currently not supported." 2013-07-05T10:59:16 I wondered how long it would take htem to have that right on the top of the site 2013-07-05T11:01:40 http://stuff.gerdesas.com/images/dont-mess-with-the-wasp.jpg 2013-07-05T11:02:46 Spray plasti-grip > wasps 2013-07-05T11:03:28 One flew up onto my balcony while I was painting the bike bits with that stuff. I'm done with letting those bitches sting me so I just gave him a quick squirt. 2013-07-05T11:03:43 Bzztt.. bzt-bzt *plop* Bzzt. 2013-07-05T11:04:15 Instand unremovable gimp suit 2013-07-05T11:04:17 er instant 2013-07-05T11:15:49 thought... what if the NSA was not just passivly (ok its not truly passive if it modifies the photos upon capture) fiber tabs, but mondify the data as it passes realtime. If they held the private keys of many companies (likely that they do) they could generate their own certificates and strip and replace their own forged signed certs and decrypt traffic on the fly 2013-07-05T11:16:12 Welcome to my world. 2013-07-05T11:17:10 this is the shit my brain has to think about while im trying to get to sleep 2013-07-05T11:17:35 if i dont have the aid of booze i end up just laying in bed unable to sleep as my mind races over all these possibilities :( 2013-07-05T11:23:58 This is exactly why it's important that people understand how the crypto they use works. 2013-07-05T11:24:26 It's not enough to simply say "I haz security". One must understand how much protection one has, and how far that protection extends. 2013-07-05T11:24:30 doubtful that the average being will ever spend the time to understand PKI 2013-07-05T11:25:05 The average being isn't likely to directly antagonize agencies capable of backdooring SSL. 2013-07-05T11:25:11 while i agree it is ultimatly in the hands of the user, its very important that the companies we entrust with all this info are good guardians 2013-07-05T11:25:27 Oh no, that's a mistake right there. 2013-07-05T11:25:31 Trust is for bitches. 2013-07-05T11:26:00 *Expect* that they'll be bad guardians, but the number of avenues by which they lose control over that data are limited. 2013-07-05T11:26:03 agreed 100% but its the only way, im not an expert in everything, so i have to trust dr's, mechanics, etc 2013-07-05T11:26:28 No, with those you can always get a second opinion if what they say fails your sniff test. 2013-07-05T11:27:01 but yes people need to be smart in their level of trust, we need to weight the level and type of data we are handing out and the assumed security of those streams 2013-07-05T11:27:04 good point 2013-07-05T11:28:52 in any case, the example above... how can that be stopped or even identified? even if, lets just use google as an example, google.com posted its certificate fingerprint for verification (just like MD5/SHA1 sums on websites) if the NSA has the private keys and can inject their own certs, then they verywell can inject a new fingerprint onto the website 2013-07-05T11:29:17 lol hilarious choice there 2013-07-05T11:29:18 and i guess really wouldn't even take the private key for google, it would just take the Root CA private key :( 2013-07-05T11:29:41 Do me a favor... do you have a CLI on a Linux box somewhere with dig and openssl on it? 2013-07-05T11:30:02 openssl yes, not familiar with dig 2013-07-05T11:30:08 but im sure i can get it quick 2013-07-05T11:30:16 Well, nslookup will do 2013-07-05T11:30:21 Pull the MX record for gmail.com 2013-07-05T11:30:33 oh ya they post the public key in dns right? 2013-07-05T11:30:35 ill do it now 2013-07-05T11:30:41 Better than that 2013-07-05T11:30:44 Way better 2013-07-05T11:31:18 how do i get mx with dig or nslookup (ive got dig) 2013-07-05T11:31:22 Note the hostnames for the MX 2013-07-05T11:31:27 dig gmail.com mx 2013-07-05T11:31:38 cool thanks 2013-07-05T11:31:58 k 2013-07-05T11:32:48 fuuuck It's taking me a bit to remmeber the last set 2013-07-05T11:32:55 :) 2013-07-05T11:33:14 If you can remember which fuckin' port they're supposed to take TLS delivery on... 2013-07-05T11:33:23 Look at the name on the _cert_ their MX records send out 2013-07-05T11:34:03 You get a symbolic name for them, which IIRC was like m.mail.google.com or something 2013-07-05T11:34:12 This does _not_ match the MX record you'd have been connecting by. 2013-07-05T11:34:39 They appear to have deliberately made it impossible to be 100% certain you're actually talking to their servres. 2013-07-05T11:34:46 ...at least by that mechanism 2013-07-05T11:35:14 port 587 per google 2013-07-05T11:35:18 The majority of mail servers will never notice because they just require there be _a_ cert there so that the connection can be encrypted 2013-07-05T11:35:31 oh wow, so they dont have a cert per server it would seem 2013-07-05T11:36:12 or at least didn't put the time in to put the actual hostname for each cert 2013-07-05T11:36:14 that blows 2013-07-05T11:37:48 I thikn it's more a matter of they wanted to make it clear to people that they can't rely on that mechanism to protect them 2013-07-05T11:38:11 ...cuz like, especially in the case of China, your shit is probably getting MITM'd by the gov't 2013-07-05T11:38:24 ya 2013-07-05T11:39:04 so whats the future look like here? :( death of PKI, death of all crypto as its impossible to verify 2013-07-05T11:39:33 TLS will protect you against some asshole sitting on your same network trying to sniff your trafffic, so that's fine, but it won't protect you against orwellian government interest. 2013-07-05T11:40:11 For that you'd better use a fuckin proper method for cryptographically protecting each email 2013-07-05T11:40:15 yup, so still useful just so long as everyone knows its not 100% 2013-07-05T11:40:31 When I first saw it I was like "how can Google be fucking this up?" 2013-07-05T11:40:35 i guess PKI and meet the person IRL to exchange keys 2013-07-05T11:40:44 ...then it dawned on me what they were probably after. 2013-07-05T11:41:15 Well, they're both PKI 2013-07-05T11:41:57 It's just that there is no signing "authority" that's going to be able to switch certs out on you in the case of something like gnupg 2013-07-05T11:41:59 ya but i mean to trust/authenticate both parties you have to exchange keys in real life face to face 2013-07-05T11:43:01 I'm with Moxie on the thinking that if a browser sees a new cert that's different from tha last one it got from a site, it should tell you immediately. 2013-07-05T11:43:49 otherwise those fuckers just intercept your email to the other party and swap out the public key you send them with their own 2013-07-05T11:43:57 god damn it i need to get work done 2013-07-05T11:44:24 Or they simply use a key that was signed by "Some Random Fucking CA In Your Giant Ring O' Keys That Came With The Browser and OS" 2013-07-05T11:44:33 ya 2013-07-05T11:45:17 i guess i could delete all the root CAs from the trust of my comptuers and install individual certs as i verify them 2013-07-05T11:45:26 god that would make the web near useless though 2013-07-05T11:45:31 I have heard rumor that Paranoid Android supposedly starts out wiht a stripped down keystore, but the image I got didn't seem to do that 2013-07-05T11:46:02 Synx: No, you really should be scrutinizing the keys for each site if cryptographic protection is even a concern for you 2013-07-05T11:46:27 All those CAs basically have ultimate trust 2013-07-05T11:46:43 yup and been shown to be compromised in the past 2013-07-05T11:47:09 If they say (though a cert) that www.microsoft.com is on some IP address in a wireless DHCP pool in Yugoslavia, then that's where Microsoft is now 2013-07-05T11:48:08 ...but your browser really should make you (or many other someones you actually trust) look at the thing closely the first time around, and it should definitely notify you of any changes that happen in the future 2013-07-05T11:48:23 agreed 2013-07-05T11:48:28 Most people get their certs for 1-2 years. That's not a lot of reauthorizing that has to be done 2013-07-05T11:50:50 Dagmar: certs don't specify the IP address 2013-07-05T11:51:01 No, really? 2013-07-05T11:51:03 I never noticed that 2013-07-05T11:51:13 If they say (though a cert) that www.microsoft.com is on some IP address in a wireless DHCP pool in Yugoslavia, then that's where Microsoft is now 2013-07-05T11:51:16 2013-07-05T11:51:26 You are mis-reading the grammar 2013-07-05T11:52:00 Clarify, then 2013-07-05T11:52:08 I expect that Synx understands the inital information about the fucking IP address came from fucking DNS. 2013-07-05T11:52:36 It's not "trusted" until the client software is looking at the cert it got from the host _at_ that IP address. 2013-07-05T11:52:37 Happy now? 2013-07-05T11:53:08 sorry peeps didn't mean to start war, i understood the intent of Dagmars statment 2013-07-05T11:53:11 :( 2013-07-05T11:53:15 Well, you could have expounded on how DNSSEC could be compromised... 2013-07-05T11:53:27 No, I could not, because there's only limited time in the day 2013-07-05T11:54:38 ok i take that back... fight... to the death! 2013-07-05T11:54:54 It also has little to do with the fact that the SSL/TLS part of the system doesn't care one single fuck about whether or not DNSSEC was in place at the time the host made the ns query 2013-07-05T11:55:05 Dagmar's already a zombie. You can't win against the undead. 2013-07-05T11:56:17 If the cert it gets from the remote host says that host is fatherrapers.microsoft.com and that's the hostname they were looking for, all it cares is that it believes if the cert was signed by "Special CA Shiftshits, Inc" which is in it's keystore as a trusted root, then fatherrapers could be anywhere on the internet 2013-07-05T11:57:22 That's better. 2013-07-05T11:57:31 It's also unnecessary 2013-07-05T12:00:14 I'm generally uninterested in trying to write explanations where each line is a wall of text all to itself. 2013-07-05T12:22:02 meeting still on tonight? 2013-07-05T12:33:03 *** GateKeeper has joined #se2600 2013-07-05T12:33:45 *** Synx|hm has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-07-05T12:42:14 Of cours.e 2013-07-05T12:47:43 well fuck the NSA 2013-07-05T12:47:50 they just denied my FOIA request 2013-07-05T13:10:23 what was the FOIA request about? 2013-07-05T13:10:29 and you are probably now on a watch list 2013-07-05T13:11:52 my records with PRISM 2013-07-05T13:12:09 nice haha 2013-07-05T13:15:57 Synx|hm_: well I am pretty sure I'm already on a watch list 2013-07-05T13:16:04 But better to do something like this and remove any doubts :p 2013-07-05T13:16:07 we probably all are 2013-07-05T13:22:04 Just one? I'm pretty sure I'm on a couple. 2013-07-05T13:24:49 I'd be surprised if I'm on any lists. I'm all noise and no signal. 2013-07-05T13:27:15 Their problem has never been that they've collected too little information. Remember, we had all of the information necessary to stop the 9/11 attacks in advance. The problem has always been their ability to filter the information on a timely basis. We didn't filter the information that could have stopped the 9/11 attacks until 5 weeks later. 2013-07-05T13:28:33 id be surprised if anyone who frequents a 2600 irc channel is NOT on a list, now im not suggesting they do anything active with these lists 2013-07-05T13:28:48 That's why none of us should be on a list. We don't pose the type of threat that they're concerned with. 2013-07-05T13:29:38 maybe, maybe not, maybe FBI lists 2013-07-05T13:30:48 Synx: if anything, a long time position in a 2600 channel would be a disqualifier, with a negative score. If they're concerned about anybody on a 2600 channel, it would be the newcomers 2013-07-05T13:37:23 i agree in your logical assessment of us, but i dont think many other are as nice 2013-07-05T13:37:58 all it takes is one jackass, hey 2600 is a hacker group... hackers are bad... get a list of all the people who visit 2600.org etc 2013-07-05T13:40:21 Yeah but they've looked us specifically a few times and by now have to know we're not up to anyhting worth bothering with 2013-07-05T13:40:27 Corydon76-home: That would require all of government intelligence to be... intelligent. 2013-07-05T13:41:20 lol @ force amps on Mayborn 2013-07-05T13:42:13 Actually, there is one list we might be on: potential hires 2013-07-05T13:43:33 if they gave me transport, a very small amount of money, and a mark that was a spammer, the CIA would find me so easy to turn into a killer it would have them all laughing. 2013-07-05T13:44:21 The only spammers the CIA is concerned are those working for the Russian mob 2013-07-05T13:44:35 Da. 2013-07-05T13:44:51 "A+++ SELLER. WOULD KILL AGAIN" 2013-07-05T13:45:07